1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise can 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Bell collect him. Every episode, we recap reality television from 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: or scripted as well. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: So rain Drops. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: It has been confirmed that married to medicine star Quad 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: and her boyfriend King are officially broken up. 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: News came out yesterday because King, who I just found 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: out today through quat statement. His name is Kirk, not 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: to be confused with Rashida's man. Okay, because I'm never 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: leaven hurt. 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I do denout appreciate it, okay whom. 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: King responded to a female's comment on his page that said, 19 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: you know, while you look good, Quad is a lucky woman, 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: and he responded her luck ran out. 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: Oh. 22 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Then another person asked that they were together, and he 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: said that I left the situation. 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: After that, today, Quad released a statement to TMZ and 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: I want to be able to read it ver batam, 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: and before I read it, I do want to say 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: this though, I thought quads response was very, very grown, mature, 29 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: and I didn't think it was messy and it could 30 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: have been just based on how I felt. 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: King broke the news to his followers yesterday. 32 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: So in a statement, Quad said, Kirk and I mutually 33 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: decided to bring our relationship to a close in twenty 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: twenty five. 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: While our time together compass. 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Meaningful moments, that chapter of my life has now concluded. 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: I wish him well in twenty twenty six. I'm focused 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: on moving forward with clarity and purpose. 39 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for your support. I thought I was mature. 40 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: And Dustin, based on you being of an avid married 41 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: to medicine watcher, are you surprised that Quad and King 42 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: did not make it? 43 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: Only because I feel like Qui really made an investment 44 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: in making sure that they made it. She waited a 45 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 5: year to tell people that she even had a damn man, 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Then she you know, slowly 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: brought him into her professional world on married to medicine, 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: and that's how we all were introduced to. 49 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 6: Him, found out about him what he does. 50 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: You know, all the details and shit through that, so 51 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: only because I know it seemed that she was really 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: serious about making that relationship work. It didn't seem like 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: somebody she was casually dating, you know. 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: And so she seems to be a pretty driven person. 55 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 5: She's always been ambitious, and I know that she made 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: a valiant effort to make that relationship work. I would 57 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: assume that I don't know that because I don't know Quy, 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 5: but I would assume that she made a valiant effort. 59 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: So for that in that vein, I am surprised. But 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: the Quid statement, You're right, it was mature. It was 61 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: also succinct. Okay, Qui said everything that needed to be 62 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: said in that statement. And the fact that we found 63 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: out that anything was even going on between them, I'm 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: sure people was making assumptions, you know, for whatever reasons. 65 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: But he kind of introduced the fact that they broke 66 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: up to her audience, you know what I'm saying, because 67 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: we were introduced to him through her, And so the 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: fact that Quai never even said anything, I just don't 69 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 5: think there's a story there. Personally, Qua's message, herb statement 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: was really complete to me. 71 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 6: They adn't really leave room for anything else. 72 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: And I think that she's just ready to move on, 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: and the fact that she included dates. She said that 74 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: they ended their relationship in twenty twenty five, and she 75 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 5: said that this is what she wants to do moving 76 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 5: forward in twenty twenty six. I just don't give a 77 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: fuck personally, I'm just speaking for myself. I don't care 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 5: nothing about why they broke up or then breaking up 79 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: at all. 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 6: Anyway. 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: I'm still going to follow Qua's journey on married to 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 5: Medicine and see how her story ends up. And I'm 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 5: ready to move on, you know, And I think she 84 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: kind of is too, based on the nature of her statement. 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: So I just don't think there's no there's not like 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 5: a smoking gun that I'm just ready to move on. 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 5: I really honestly don't care. If I'm not trying to 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: be rude, I just don't give a fuck. So I'm 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 5: just saying, yeah, sorry, it's. 90 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 6: Just not get a new man, like, let's just move on, 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 6: you know. 92 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. I've been around Kawhi. We 93 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: was all in Ghana a few years ago. The QUI 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: will have no problems. Gorgeous, lady, cool shit, fun to 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: hang with. She will have no problems. The fact that 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: she waited to introduce the world to him, and you 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: know she was measured. She's she's a vet. She knows 98 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: that she can't just pop up on TV with someone 99 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: because there's in Atlanta, especially, there's a lot of people 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: that's gonna pretend to love you to get on television. 101 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: Not saying he was doing that, but you have to 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: like wait a little while before you make sure. I'm 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: seeing that he was in doctor Simone's comments leaving comments 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: like kind of being messy and stuff about that have 105 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: some class because by her response and her statement, you think, wow, 106 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: we don't really know who broke up with who. She's 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: not putting a blame, she's not trashing him, she's not 108 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: dragging him. She kept it very cute. Him doing this. 109 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: At first I thought maybe he broke up with her 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: and she's giving one of those it was mutual. But 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: now the fact that he's in comments is giving me 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: he's being very petty and thank the woman that give 113 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: you a national platform. Keep it cute, there's no need 114 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: to do. I hate when people do this after a relationship. 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: I really really do. I really I think it's tacky. 116 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: Likes you're going on her platform her castmates, her people 117 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: that you met through her, and like dragging someone that 118 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: brought you into that circle. I don't think that's cute 119 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: at all. Dude, a monkst your circle? Oh you don't 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: have a circle? 121 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: Okay, That's kind of where I'm with it. 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: Like, I feel like even giving it any You can 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 5: tell the intention of a statement by what it is, right, 124 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: and I feel like even feeding it in any way 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 5: is just feudile, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: not really interested in analyzing what he said or did 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: or any of that. I'm more interested in what Quid 128 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: does next personally, I guess that's around that with it, 129 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck. 130 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, there's no secret I am friends with Quad. 131 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: I've been friends of Quad for over a decade. She 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: is a great woman. I thought her statement was a 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: class act to say the least. I think Quad is 134 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: a classy woman who definitely wanted. 135 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: To make sure that her reality was shown. 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: And this is one thing I will let the world 137 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: know about Quad Web that woman. 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: When she's in love with. 139 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: You, watch out because she will give you everything in 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: that relationship. 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: And again, I don't know much of what happened. It 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: is not my business. 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: But what I will say is, as an avid viewer 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: of Mariti Medicine, we have seen this woman go through 145 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: a divorce that wasn't pretty right. We have seen this 146 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: woman deal with friendships on the show that wasn't pretty right. 147 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: We have seen this woman really, you know, go on 148 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: a couple of trips on this show and do it alone. 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: And Claudia, you know how it is. 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: To be on a reality show where people be like, 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: where's your man at, you know, as a way of. 152 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, throwing shade. 153 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: So the fact that she dated this man for a 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: year because she wanted to make sure that this was it. 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: And one thing I will give quad, which is why 156 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: she is one of the greatest reality stars who have 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: ever been on television, is the fact that she poured 158 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: her heart off this season with her ivy of journey 159 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: going to Ghana and you you you saw the real 160 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: conversations that they were were having as a couple. 161 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: You saw how she broke down when the eggs didn't 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: then take it, you know, like really a real heart 163 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: felt conversation. 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: My entire heart goes out to her because I know, 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: as a tourist woman that she is, she loves hard 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: and I am sad for any of my friends to 167 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: end the relationship. But what I will say is she 168 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: is a classy woman. I love the fact that me 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: and her, Me and Quad talk all the time, and 170 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: she didn't tell me, So I want the world to 171 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: know that wasn't like. 172 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: She called me and said, bitch, guess she didn't tell me. 173 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: And I know her and I kind of suspected something's 174 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: going on. But when you're one of my girls, I 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: wait for you to come to me, especially if you're 176 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,359 Speaker 2: in a relationship. 177 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: So look, I met King. King. 178 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: King was very nice when I met him. I like 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: you too, Destiny Claudia. I was surprised that he felt 180 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: the need to respond to it because this is quat platform, 181 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: but hey, maybe he just felt the need to say something. 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I thought Quad statement was a class actor 183 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: and my heart goes off to her. 184 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: Hellos, the rangedrops are saying that he responded in your comments. 185 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: Maybe that's been there on the show. Maybe check that 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: when you get a chance. 187 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 6: We don't give a fuck. We don't care what he 188 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 6: got to say. 189 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: We don't give a damn about Quad did not respond 190 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 5: to the things that he said. 191 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 6: That is the biggest clue for us. All right, now 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 6: you can swipe you did that comment? 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm saying again using her people, her friends, 194 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: the circle that she brought him into to trash, to 195 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: talk ship or whatever. I haven't seen the comment, yep, 196 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that would piss me off. Like, ay, man, 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: don't be the only comments that my friends. 198 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 6: Don't breathe an ounce of life into any of that. 199 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 4: Twelve followers. 200 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: Let's just let's just move on. He getting way too 201 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: much attention. Let's talk about quad. 202 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 6: She looked good on Sherry. Did you see what she 203 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 6: had on on Sherry? 204 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Yes? Her bathing suits. 205 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: Member, I'm gonna tell you right now, ladies, I'm I'm 206 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: always wary of man with these these names that are 207 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: very aspirational. It's though it's not their for what they 208 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: would name. I remember I met a guy named Adonna's 209 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: one time. He was one of the ugliest people I've 210 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: ever met in my life. I could not believe it, Like, 211 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, your parents set you up. He had his 212 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: hair jelled forward and a Caesar cut was thin right here. 213 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: So King Adonna's all these kind of you know, bigger 214 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: than life, larger than life names, it's a lot to 215 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: live up to. I'm just saying, like, if my name 216 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: was queen, you'd be like, okay, really like you know 217 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's a lot to live up to. 218 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: Beware you heard it here. First, don't take kings. And 219 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: he had green contact in and he was so sheet 220 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: greasy and shiny. Ough adna's your mama lied to you? 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Honey Lord, have birdsy onh be loy, have bussy be 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: all right. 223 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: So it's a jaf action that's like them parents that 224 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: tell their kids, oh, everyone's a winner. No they're not. 225 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: I do not do purple ribbons. It's red, white and blue. 226 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: First place is blue, second is red. There are places white, 227 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 4: some other antillary colors and places participation trophies. I'll make it. 228 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 4: I'll ruined America. Everybody think, David, I'm here to know 229 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: you're not. No, you're not. Sit down. 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: Claudia is the best. 231 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Somebody said us, like you know your child princess, and 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: you'd be like really, okay, moving on to Claudia's cousin, 233 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: Juice Dora. 234 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: Me and Michael Jordan's cousin, Right. 235 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 6: All right, Solway, Barbara Jordan. Now to that. 236 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: What about Barbara Jordan's You know it's Black History Month, goddamnit? 237 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: And Eric Benet Jordan's another one is his middle name. 238 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: That's our cousin too. We'll see you at the family reunion. 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: You got your coming, I'm. 240 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Host it. 241 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: Yes, you got. 242 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: So, Claudia cousin. Okay. 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: So, Juice Dour and Kelly Perrell from the Real Housewives 244 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: of Atlanta had a comedic feud over the weekend. 245 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: So Dustin and Claudia Juici Dora, come get your batty chain. 246 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: Because I. 247 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Am official. 248 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Let me say this, and I'm gonna tell the story. 249 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm very honest. 250 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: When Juice Dour first came on Atlanta Housewives, I was like, hmmm, 251 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: in the word of safety rush, Yeah you know. 252 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: I wasn't. But I told you this in our one 253 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: on one interview. I wasn't into it. So I thought 254 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: you was giving me Lifetime Movie of the Week, a T. D. 255 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: Jake special. Do you know what I'm saying? 256 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: Have you ever been so? 257 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 6: Yes? 258 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: So I thought it was living acting. 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: And then I felt that Drew found her footing. And 260 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: when I say to you, Mama, Juice, So Dora is 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: a formidable opponent on Atlanta Housewise, I am telling you 262 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: for the past couple of seasons, I Carlos King am 263 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: endorsing Juice Dora as the girl to watch. She is 264 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise and what she did over the weekend 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: has proven that this woman has staying power. Or her 266 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: day off, Juice Dora decided to take her children to 267 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: get something to eat. She stopped by Kelly Farrell's I 268 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: Love Kelly too, Nana's chicken and waffos. 269 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 7: She took out her iPhone, hit the record button. And 270 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 7: one thing about Drew, she's a great actress. So Drew 271 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 7: looks so concerned as she's battling the snow and her hunger, 272 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 7: and she is looking. 273 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 8: Around saying, Hi, you know, my kids are hunk. I'm hungry, 274 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 8: you know, I said, Mama, let me talk some brother food. 275 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 8: And I'm out side now a chicken and waffles and 276 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 8: the doors closed and it's not open for business. Kelly, 277 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 8: where are you? I thought you had a business. 278 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: You're not here. It's so sad. I was hungry and 279 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to support you. Baby took me out now. 280 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: With that being said, Kelly Farrell responded, and she said, dusted. 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: And Claudia drowning. Drew, thank you for the drive by. 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: While that location is being relocated, our McDonough restaurant is open, Yes, 283 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: the same one where we filmed, and I personally made 284 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: sure you and your entire family left fed for free. 285 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: I get it. 286 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: You're scrambling for a storyline. We know you gave nothing 287 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: all season. 288 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Fortunately I'm not available. 289 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: I actually have real life things going on, So continue 290 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: with the low budget movies. 291 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: First of all, hold on now, hold on, let me. 292 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I know you're about to be Carlos kept to Drews. 293 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I can. 294 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: Only dream to be that much as an advocate. 295 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: I I another eight a half to it. Okay, now, 296 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: because I know you this is reality with the King, 297 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. 298 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Okay, she goes, So continue with the low budget movies, 299 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: paid promo tours and imaginary business ventures. If you ever 300 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: plan on opening up an actual business, let me know. 301 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'll consider supporting in real life. 302 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Until then, keep my name out of that dry mouth 303 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: of yours. Maybe you can get a man that actually 304 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: claims you. 305 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: PS. This is the weird shit that Drew does. Call 306 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: me next Timbo. 307 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: Drew one with all that all over the place shit. 308 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 5: And I like Kelly on the show. Let me be clear, 309 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I enjoyed Kelly on the 310 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: I enjoyed her on season sixteen. I'm looking forward to 311 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: seeing her on season seventeen. But she wasn't talking about shit. 312 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 5: She just said a bunch of She regurgitated a bunch 313 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: of typical responses that people in the reality space used 314 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: toward each other. Oh you was boring this season. You 315 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 5: want to have a storyline. 316 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 6: I was busy. I got other stuff going on. 317 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: You ain't got no man. It was just a bunch 318 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: of the same old, same old bullshit. Drew tore her up, 319 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 5: drew his fresh face when she got on that camera 320 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 5: on live pushing her hair back and shit talking about 321 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: my kids wanted some chicken and waffles and so I 322 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: can really support my girl, And I thought that was hilarious. 323 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: Drew one case clothes aunt Kelly. 324 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: And Kelly has a tendency to do to overdo, lay 325 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: it on too thick sometimes with things okay, and this 326 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 5: is one of the case scenarios where she did just that. 327 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: Next time, Kelly just go straight to the bullseye with 328 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: your insults, all all that extra shit is a bunch 329 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 5: of nothing. And that's how Drew had a victory. Drew 330 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 5: took the w in this one. 331 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: Claudia Jordan, I think this is great for TV. In 332 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: real life, of course you'd be like, bitch, you really 333 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: try me like that. It wouldn't be no Instagram. Maybe 334 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: I'm coming over, We're going to see each other, we're 335 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: gonna talk. You try to climb my business. But it's 336 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: for TV. For TV. I like it for TV because 337 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: now they have something to be bitter or angry about 338 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: when there's coming see I like both these ladies. I 339 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: think that Drew. Of course, Drew started it and she 340 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: went looking for a little smoke, and she she gave 341 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: exactly she got exactly where she wanted a response. Kelly 342 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: started off very strong. If I'm going to analyze to read, 343 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: analyza read with Claudia Jordan's analyzed to read came out 344 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 4: the gate tens tens tens bam, bam, bam, bam bam. 345 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: But where she lost it, much like in My beefs, 346 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 4: is when she got too emotional. And if you whoever 347 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: stays calm and then check of the emotions wins. I 348 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 4: think the more the longer Kelly's response went, it showed 349 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: that she was really mad. You know, like when I 350 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: tell my friends, when you're arguing with your boyfriend and 351 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: you want to write him along paring of and another thing, 352 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 4: bring up everything he ain't reading. Now you're reading the 353 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: top line, in the last line, he's not going through 354 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: all that. You hit him with an opener, a middle line, 355 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 4: and a closer and you're done. That seems less bothered, 356 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: But I get Kelly was trying to put everything in 357 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: one email or one check. So I do think Kelly 358 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: gave a valiant effort. I think she you know, but 359 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: like you can't some'cept the more you write, the more 360 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: you give, you open yourself for critique. Like men have 361 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 4: claimed Drew. She's had a husband and other men come 362 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: on the show, you know, and maybe even a woman 363 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 4: that was willing to claim Drew. Okay, so you can't. 364 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 6: Say that I forgot about hell. 365 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: Speaking of basketball wise, what was that she was on basketball? 366 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 6: We got the same vans and jacket. 367 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's made her rounds on all the Award of 368 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: the Reality. 369 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 6: She'd be dressing QR. I forgot the mean thing. 370 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: No, no, she does. She's listen, tis fly. I'm not 371 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: gonna take away, but she's definitely cross promoted. Okay, cross pollinated. 372 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: She says she wanted she gotta smoking me. Like, girl, 373 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: we ain't gonna fight. You just. 374 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: Want to go shopping with Ty, So I'll work all 375 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 5: that out. Okay, we and t gonna go shopping. I 376 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 5: want to shop with you, go were gonna I'm gonna 377 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 5: set a lot of that. I'm gonna be the bridge 378 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: for you friends. 379 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: She didn't say nothing when she saw me out. Mm hmm. 380 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, and I'm old that you could easily 381 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: take me down. Okay, let me focus. I have ADHD 382 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: y'all know that interest. Yeah, Like, I just like it 383 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: went it went long. It just went long. So yeah, 384 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: but but I like them both, and now I'm looking 385 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: forward to the season, Like what's up with Kelly and Drew? 386 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: It did exactly Listen, Kelly, don't be mad and Drew 387 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: because it kind of gave you guys a nice starting 388 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: point for the next season, like we wanted. Now we 389 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: want to know what's up? 390 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 391 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I shout out to Drew and Kelly. 392 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think that was a nice Saturday pick 393 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: me up. 394 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: You all need it as we're you know, bracing the 395 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: cold weather over the weekend. And it's what you too said, 396 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: it's it makes me long for Atlanta Housewives when I 397 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: say to you, this is why Atlanta Housewives as a 398 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: brand is so funny, because it's the shade meter that 399 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: goes like this that. 400 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Makes that show great. And I I love that Drew 401 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: started it, and. 402 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: I love that Kelly played along with it, you know, 403 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: instead of like, girl, have your moment. I like the 404 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: the fact that they both knew let's ignite this promo 405 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: for the upcoming season, while you know, Potomac is sort 406 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: of you know, sunsetting with their reunions. But I thought 407 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: it was fun shade, and listen, I want more of that. 408 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of fun shade, we got to get into Giselle 409 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: responding to Quad checking her on Watch What Happens Live 410 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: and the rain draws we will be talking about after 411 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: this Karon Huger's won on one interview with Andy Cohen 412 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: that aired last night. First Thing First, Giselle, Kobe Bryant, 413 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: and Robin Dixon on their podcast Reasonably Shady responded to 414 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: Quad Gazelle said that during a commercial break that Quad 415 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: allegedly told Andy to ask her a barb Bravo Khan, 416 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: and Giselle said, when she saw that, and she obviously 417 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: you know it was there when Quad checked her, she 418 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: felt that Quad came everharst and she said when it happened, 419 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: she was like, I have nothing for you or for 420 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: this conversation, because. 421 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: We were really talking about Atlanta. 422 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: And then Robin interjected and said, no, no, no, no, I 423 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: was talking about both, right, I was talking about both. 424 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: They both felt though that they didn't understand the energy 425 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: that was given to them, that it was really shading 426 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: Ky Michelle and Atlanta Housewives and not necessarily Quad Dustin. 427 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Do you buy what Gizelle and Robin areselfing? 428 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: Hell? 429 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: No. First of all, Giselle Robin did seem apologetic, you 430 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Gazelle was still she kept talking shit, 431 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 5: taking digs. 432 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 6: We didn't even we didn't need to know. 433 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 5: The peace about quid as they said, teeing up the moment, 434 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 5: you know, telling Andy to probe her about Bravo con 435 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: We didn't know, We didn't to know about any of that. 436 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 5: Jazelle still talking shit because Gazelle is embarrassed. Quiet embarrassed her, 437 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 5: and watch What Happens Live because the whole world recognized 438 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: that as a checking okay, and so Gizelle didn't like that, 439 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: and she did what she had every right to do, 440 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: which is go on her platform and issue a response. 441 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 5: But we are all clear on what that response was. Robin, 442 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 5: I felt was a little more sincere. She even went 443 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 5: so far as to apologize to the castomary to Medicine, 444 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: and she showed them a lot of love and you know, 445 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: made it clear how she felt about it being with 446 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 5: the best show on Bravo, sharing the same sentiment that 447 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: you have, Carlos, And I thought her response was a 448 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: lot more sincere and regular. But Gazelle continued to talk 449 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: shit the entire time, even while Robin was being apologetic. 450 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: And I don't believe for one minute that she knew 451 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: what the tea up was from Quid asking, And that's tee, 452 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 5: not tea, what the tea up was from Quid asking her. 453 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to asking Andy to talk 454 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: about Bravo Khan because Gazelle appeared completely. 455 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 6: Caught off guard. Will Quiet check their ass? 456 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: That's how we knew it was in the moment and real, 457 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 5: so I don't believe that for one second. 458 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: She'd did better. 459 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 5: Off just saying, you know what, we be on here 460 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: talking shit and maybe I just need to watch my 461 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: mouth a little bit, because I wasn't trying to offit her. 462 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: So that's what I do when I get checked. 463 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I just laugh about 464 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: it and do that's my way of doing it. You 465 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So that's how That's what I think. 466 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: Jesselle was embarrassed and Robin kept it real. 467 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: Claudia her response. 468 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: Their response should have been, the podcast is called reasonably shady, 469 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: so guess what, some nights we're going to be shady. 470 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 4: You don't come to the show for political correctness, you 471 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: come for the shade. That's the branding. They should have 472 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: leaned in and been like, yes, we were being shady, 473 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: but I will. I know a lot of people don't 474 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 4: like Robin. I'm happy to not be one of them. 475 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: I actually like her because I don't know her from 476 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: the show. I wasn't watching when she was on. I 477 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 4: went to lunch with dinner with her, drinks after, and 478 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: I really liked her. And what I saw in my 479 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: one on one with her was exactly how she, you know, 480 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: conjucted herself with her response stood on business. She accepted 481 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 4: what she said, she cleaned it up and actually showed love. 482 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: She showed it, but she wasn't. It didn't come off 483 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: to me like she was a punk, and she didn't retreat. 484 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: She said, well, you know, and she explained it. And 485 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: then Gay Props gave another show props saying they're the 486 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: best show on the network. I thought that would so fly. 487 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: The way she handled the situation, I think it showed 488 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: that she don't worry about what you think about her. 489 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 4: It is what it is. I'm gonna clarify. And then 490 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 4: I love how she gave props to Mariti Medicine because 491 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 4: I agree with her, and I thought that was ope 492 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: And actually it actually made Giselle look a little smaller, 493 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: and it made Robin look bigger and accountable and also 494 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 4: like more credible. 495 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think listen is what you 496 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: said to Dustin and Claudia saying too. 497 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: Look, I can't tell you how many times I've been 498 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: chin checked in public or receive their phone call or 499 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: a d M. I was telling Dustin behind the scenes. 500 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it. 501 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I can call him aout Dustin and but the thing 502 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: about is this, and look, we'll get to my call 503 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Laudia second. 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: But I get about Dustin are always funny. They never 505 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: disrespect him because I will always check them if they 506 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: disrespected him, and it's never disrespecting. It always surprises me 507 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: that they are so fascinated with his POV that they 508 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: are just. 509 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Like, well, that's not true, he got it wrong. And 510 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's his opinion. But they're laughing the whole time. 511 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: No with me, they're like, fuck that bitch, Why should 512 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: you You're supposed to be my friend. No, I because 513 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: Dustin find he's man and like he's fine, So it's okay. 514 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: I just give a look to something. Look at Claudia Hayten. 515 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 4: She want to be back on the show. Said the 516 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: same thing they say. But I ain't as fine as 517 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: him in a way. 518 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: God damn. There may be a lot of housewife one 519 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: or two that you know. I don't know. 520 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck, Okay, friend, I really don't. 521 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all know my demon here, I'm 522 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: in my villain era. I do not. 523 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 7: I said that, you say, I'm start saying tiga instead of. 524 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: Oh the em word. Oh yeah, because that's for my peoples. 525 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: But the reality they get smoked happy black. 526 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: Especially during February. I'm of a frame July is on them. 527 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know. If I told the rain drops 528 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: my Stacey Rush story. 529 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: That happened, I gotta DM her too. 530 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Please do Okay? 531 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: So when I interview Stacey and name her the reality 532 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: start of the year in twenty twenty five, I thought 533 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: we were recording where we weren't souse, I would have 534 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: posted it because she was fine with it. Stacy watches 535 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Monday Night Live. So hi's Stacy Rush. 536 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: And she said, in. 537 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Her very stacy way, where's Claudia? 538 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Where is she? Is? She not here? I said, ma'am, 539 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: dallat's be talking about she goes. I have a bone 540 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: to pick with Claudia. I said, what blaa she goes. 541 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like she. 542 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 7: You know, talking about Temu and saying something about my man. 543 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm heard, and I said, Claudia. 544 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: But my point is Stacey was so funny with it, 545 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: and she she literally said to me and I will 546 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: never forget this, and I I. 547 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Want all of this from my reality stars. 548 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: Stacy Russ that I love reading me tweets about me. 549 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: I think it's funny. She said, I love watching you 550 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: DestinE to Claudia. Y'all keep it real. I may disagree 551 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: with you. I want you to face on Claudia so 552 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: we could get a kick out of it. So my 553 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: point is, look, I believe in owning it. Robin Dixon 554 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: checked me a few weeks ago. I told you guys 555 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: about that. We all get checked, but I think it's 556 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: one of those things where you own it and you 557 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: just keep it, pushit. 558 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: And Stacey, my critique was about Jermyn not you, but 559 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: I actually adore you on the show, and I know 560 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: what I love not. I kind of like being wrong 561 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: about someone in the beginning. You know, some of my 562 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: best relationships with friends were with people that I'm like, oh, 563 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: I can't stand you, right, like something about them irk you, 564 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: and when you get to know them, you end up 565 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 4: really liking them, Like I can't believe I don't like you, 566 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: or I felt a different way about you. And I 567 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: kind of feel like that way with Stacy. Not that 568 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: I couldn't stand her, but we definitely would Criticism for 569 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: her when she first started the season, and I like 570 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: that she changed our minds, Not that she was trying 571 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: to change our minds, but I like when you kind 572 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: of like I like people that are flexible, and I 573 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: think everyone on this panel is pretty flexible. Especially Yeah, 574 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: you know, like we I meant physically for you, mentally 575 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: for us, like you know, even glowing lately. 576 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: In position, ready for that door bell to ring. 577 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: Look at his arms back. He's like giving us di'angelo, 578 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 4: how does it feel right now? 579 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Isn't he doesn't? Dustin? 580 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, someone's down there the Angelo doing in the video. 581 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 5: Remember he was like, you'd be watching it go down it. 582 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: I'm participating to watch now like I'm in. I'm interactive. 583 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: He's supposed to look down also talking. 584 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 6: Through it and then get in there. You know what 585 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 6: I'm saying. I'm a starter, a bench, you know what 586 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 6: I'm saying. 587 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: So, yeah, any whom, we should do a special episode 588 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 5: for Patreon and talk about Nasty Ship. Claudia, you down, 589 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: we should do an after dark episode on Patreon. Carlos 590 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 5: set that up. 591 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: Maybe we can give some celebrity stories too. I know 592 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: we all have one. 593 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: At least you. 594 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: Ain't getting somebody y'all look getting mine, But I won't 595 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 5: never say I'm here, you know that. 596 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: Not names, but we can give suggestion like we can 597 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: give hints. 598 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: I haven't been hint up by celebrity. 599 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: That's because you create celebrities, Carlos. 600 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: Yes, claud you're sau. 601 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Have. 602 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 6: It's a little bit different for you. Man. 603 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it is I have. I 604 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: have a theory, but we'll talk about out patrion. 605 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. We're gonna do that. 606 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: I really have a theory, and I think I'm right. 607 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: Are you guys to be in New York Valentine's a weekend? 608 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: H I'm busy, So Claudia, I want to get it. 609 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: Where are you taking him? Where you taking him? 610 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 6: There? Through there? That's what you're taking. Go ahead, take 611 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 6: me to that. 612 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in New York, So we'll link up. 613 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: We shall, h I might be in a fashion show 614 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: and then we'll you know, we'll talk after that. 615 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 5: It's said we're going to do something on Valentine's Night, okay, 616 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 5: or the fifteenth or the fifteenth, because you'll. 617 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: Probably be busy on Valentine's side, you know. 618 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 6: Yes, so we'll yes, Bals this year. 619 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: Huh No, Claudia was saying, I might be busy that 620 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: day because you know, I believe what they ain't Valentine's 621 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 5: on the Saturday this. 622 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: Week, on Saturday night, you know, Dustin will not be available. 623 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: He got things to do. 624 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Dustin gonna be looking down. 625 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 6: Boney, hopefully you're looking around. Uh but yeah, so. 626 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, anybody, let's move on. 627 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. 628 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 5: We're gonna have that episode all right, wrong platform, ye 629 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 5: call it, Yeah, we should, let's do it. 630 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: Let me know the comments that y'all want a three 631 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: some series on Patreon. 632 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: You can bring all your sexual deviant cast members on there, 633 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: like Marcel. 634 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 6: Yes, what we're doing, we don't want nobody being no crew. 635 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 5: If we we're gonna talk about that, we want the 636 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 5: audience to understand and watch them because we're gonna go there, 637 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, So like, just be prepared 638 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 5: for us to have that conversation. 639 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: We keep trying to get them to the promis Land 640 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 4: with this New York show, right like. 641 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 6: With this TV show. That's what the New York is 642 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 6: just one thing we want. 643 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 5: We want a table, we want coffee mud and we're 644 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 5: not getting off of it. 645 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 6: Carlo. 646 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: There's a space right now. They're canceling shows up the right, which. 647 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 5: Is crazy coffee mugs and card no cards, Carlos, I 648 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: think about Carlos king. 649 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: I'm always working, even when you guys don't think. 650 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: So you don't you know me? Well, y'all know is working. 651 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 6: We just hurry out. 652 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: Because I was like fifty percent of my crypto currency 653 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: because they used to be popping in my account. Now 654 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 4: my point. 655 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So look, I'm glad we're we're having a good time, 656 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: and I'm glad we're laughing and joking, you know, because 657 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: now was the time to get into Cameron Huger's one 658 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: on one special with Andy Cohen that was promoted as 659 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: the finale for the Real Housewives of Potomac. I have 660 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: lots of thoughts about this, but of course I'll reserve 661 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: my judgment until I hear Claudia and Dustin talk. 662 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: But to recapture you guys, as you. 663 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: Ought know, Karen Huger was sentenced to jail or a dui, 664 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: and she got off for good behavior, and the cameras 665 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: literally followed Karen leaving the president entering the black car 666 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: and going home. 667 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: And then a week later she said down with Andy Cohen. 668 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: So in this moment, you know, she gets out, she 669 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: makes sure that the driver slows down because she wanted 670 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: to roll down the window to wave about her fans. 671 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 2: She did that, and then she decided to go home 672 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: to see Raven, her sister in addition to her husband Ray. 673 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: They talk about her jail house braids. 674 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: It was a very listen it was let me just 675 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: let me just say what I have to say that 676 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: I'm out. Y'all know, I'm obsessed with this genre of 677 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: reality television. I was talking to have them last week 678 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: and before we did our Ameritive Medicine recap, she said, 679 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: you love this shit, don't you? And I was like, 680 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: you have no idea, you know, like you know how 681 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: like some people love sports and they're like sportsman or whatever. 682 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: I am the biggest fan of reality television, right. 683 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: I will say this. 684 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 2: It was the first time for me I felt very 685 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: uncomfortable watching something. And although although truth moment, I would 686 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: have as a producer done the same thing, get the 687 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: cameras and follow I would have done the exact same thing. Yeah, 688 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: watching her and I'll get to the one. I'll get 689 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: to the one on one interview later. I'll state my 690 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: opinion now about her going home. I I did not 691 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: need to see that. I felt it was something that 692 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: she should have had privately. 693 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: To absorb with her family, to go through. 694 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: Something so horrific and to get out of it, and 695 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: there's cameras in your face, and they're in the car, 696 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: and you go home and the first time you're seeing 697 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: your husband, your daughter, and your sister, there's cameras in 698 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: your face it and again there's certain people like Teresa 699 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Judies when she did it, it was something felt different 700 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: about that. It was something different about Karen and I 701 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: don't and I have my thoughts about that, but I'll 702 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: just say I did not need to see it, and 703 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: it made me feel very sad for her that she 704 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: had to share that moment with us. 705 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 4: It seemed to me like she had no choice, like 706 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 4: this is maybe one of the conditions of her coming 707 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: back that she had to give this interview, you know. 708 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 4: And I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I'm just going 709 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: by my gut like watching it, because clearly she's made progress, 710 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 4: but not all the way right. It seemed like she 711 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: has a tough time admitting to the alcoholism, but a 712 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 4: less tough time admitting to the addiction to prescription drugs 713 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: because someone else prescribed them. So it's like not really 714 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: my fault as much, you know what I mean. And 715 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 4: that was kind of sad to see, Like it seemed 716 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 4: like it really bothered her to really own the alcohol 717 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: alcoholism part of the illness that she has. And you know, 718 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 4: when they played the clips back of her just their 719 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 4: arrest and the wig back, it was like a cringe. Cringe. 720 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 4: But I do also want to stay as part of 721 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 4: being in the reality game, I guess, But she wasn't 722 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: protected at all for sure. They weren't trying to protect her. 723 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 4: They were trying to have a show that I get 724 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: good ratings. And I guess on the business side, I 725 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 4: see it. But if she was one of my friends, 726 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: I'd be like, damn, girl, ion't do that, because like 727 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: it did feel uncomfortable, like her talking on her husband, 728 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 4: all of it. But it's kind of like Gladiator, Are 729 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: you not entertained? People say they want to see elevated 730 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 4: things and they don't want to see the fighting and 731 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 4: the negative that the names eat it up. But it 732 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 4: did feel a little bit like blink twice girl, if 733 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: you don't really want to do this interview, and then 734 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 4: making you do it as part of the conditions for 735 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 4: coming back, right. 736 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: And I'll say this, obviously she got Listen, she's a 737 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: reality star. She got paid to do it, and she 738 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: wasn't working for close to a year. And listen, I 739 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: understand her decision for saying yes to it because she 740 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: got paid. 741 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: She got paid to show her reality. 742 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not mad at it that it was at 743 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was her choice. Again, 744 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: me watching it, I just didn't feel like the person 745 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: I saw was ready to show the world who she was. 746 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: And I'm only sticking to the moment she saw her husband, sister, 747 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: and daughter. But Dustain, what were your thoughts on Karen 748 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: released from prison? 749 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 5: You know, I actually disagree with you Carlos and you 750 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 5: Claudia on this one. I thought that that was the 751 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 5: reallyt shit we ever seen from Karen. 752 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 753 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 5: Karen is a person who runs away from transparency in 754 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 5: some setting. Sometimes she's too real and too raw and 755 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 5: that's why we love her. And other times she's evasive 756 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 5: about certain shit and vague about certain shit. This seeing 757 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 5: her exit, her paying her debt to society, which she did, 758 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, her watching her make that exit, 759 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 5: seeing her go home and be reintroduced to her family again, 760 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 5: who we know how strong, how strongly she loves them. 761 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 5: Seeing her sister there. I'm a person that's very close 762 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 5: with my brother and my sister. Y'all know that, and 763 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 5: so seeing her sister there that I could tell that 764 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: was real as hell, the way her sister was convicted 765 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 5: and sitting there with a silent strength to her, a 766 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 5: quiet strength to her. And we were introduced to her 767 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 5: sister Bridget through Karen's project about the family house in 768 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 5: Suri that they had the three episodes spent on for 769 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 5: we remember these characters. I thought it was special that 770 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: we got a change to hear what her son Brandon 771 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 5: had to say. He typically does not it's not involved. 772 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say whether he wants to or not, 773 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 5: because I don't know, but he's typically not involved in filming. 774 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 5: I thought it was it was great to get his 775 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 5: perspective on his mom's time, his experience related to that. 776 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 5: I thought that it was great. I think that the 777 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 5: element here that makes it uncomfortable for you, Carlos, youu 778 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 5: Claudia ain't even meet to a degree, is the fact 779 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 5: that Karen is a woman of a certain age, and 780 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 5: if you raise right, it's just certain shit you don't 781 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 5: like seeing older people doing it, and certain vulnerabilities you 782 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 5: don't like seeing them have. And that's what that was. 783 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 5: Karen wringing her hands in the car and all of that. 784 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 5: We wanted to support her, We wanted to soothe her, 785 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 5: We wanted to shield her. That's why y'all use the 786 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 5: word protected, even though what did she need to be 787 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 5: protected from? Right Like, she was going to the safest 788 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 5: of places for her home with her family, So it 789 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 5: wasn't that she we needed to protect her from anything. 790 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 5: But we just feel that because we're good people and 791 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 5: we don't like seeing older black people, older people in general, 792 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 5: in vulnerable situations like that where they're not safe and comforted. 793 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 6: So I think that was the thing for us. 794 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 5: But as far as the scene itself, I'm really grateful 795 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 5: that Karen was like even willing to show it. I 796 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 5: know she got a heavy bag to do that, Okay, 797 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 5: I ain't no question about it. She made a bag 798 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 5: to do that, and I don't think she was forced 799 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 5: to do nothing she didn't want to do. She seemed 800 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 5: really present. She seemed forthcoming as much as Karen Kugar 801 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 5: would be. So I thought she was cool and I 802 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 5: was happy to see her go home. I didn't want 803 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 5: to know her. I didn't want to know that she 804 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 5: was in a facility like that anymore. I was happy 805 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: to see her enter her home. So that's how I felt. 806 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 4: It was definitely good TV. But I was just thinking about, like, 807 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 4: she's not ready to accept that alcoholism part of her, 808 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 4: and that's the part that was the part that cringe. 809 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's get into that. 810 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: So they shot her immediately getting out of prison. 811 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: She went home. 812 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 2: They saw her embrace her family at one point, Karen, 813 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 2: which was the moment that I was like, yeah, girl, 814 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: I get you. 815 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: She was like, what I want it, y'all done? 816 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: I gotta shower the jail off of me. I gotta 817 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 2: shower the jail off of me. And she went upstairs. 818 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: And I love the fact that production said, Okay, bye, 819 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: do your thing. I also love the fact that it 820 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: gave her a week. I want to tell a production, 821 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: we're giving her a week to do the one on 822 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 2: one interview. 823 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: I'll show my thoughts about her there later. 824 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: But in the one on one interview a week at 825 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 2: after her release, they. 826 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: Get right into it and they start. 827 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 9: Immediately talking about the footage of Karen's arrest and if 828 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 9: she saw it, and Karen admitted that she did not 829 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 9: want to see it, and her lawyers did advise her 830 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 9: to take the plea deal because they saw the footage 831 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 9: and they pretty much said to her, in paraphrasing, this. 832 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: Is damning evidence. This is damning evidence, and you should 833 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 2: take the plea deal. She did not want to do it. 834 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: She said she saw it for the first time in 835 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 2: court and for her, she knew, like I'm in deep 836 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: trouble the sort of denial that she was in. Claudia, 837 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: what what did you make of the fact that she 838 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 2: admitted to being in such denial that she didn't want 839 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: to see the footage, and so much so that she. 840 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: Talked about how she was. 841 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: Not just under the influence of alcohol, she was under 842 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: the influence of prescription drugs. 843 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: Do you think she was trying to. 844 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 2: Not accept the fact that the alcoholism is the main 845 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: factor inarrent situation. 846 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 4: I do, because I feel like alcoholism is not something 847 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 4: you could put on a doctor alcoholism is something that 848 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 4: is a you thing. You decide to get the bottle, 849 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: you decide to drink, you decide to get behind the 850 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: wheel of a car. That's all you. Now. When you 851 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 4: say it's a prescription drug problem, you could also say, listen, 852 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: I was injured, I got prescribed these things. The doctor's 853 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 4: kind of their fault. They did this to me, like 854 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 4: they a little bit. You're not owning all of it, right, 855 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 4: because you can't just get a prescription drug on your 856 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 4: own prescription. You have to have a doctor do it 857 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 4: with you for you. So I think in her mind 858 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 4: is probably a little bit more shame associated with being 859 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 4: an alcoholic as then there is to be addicted to 860 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: prescription drugs. 861 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: You know. 862 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: I think that's more of like a high society kind 863 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 4: of diagnosis. It's less, you know what I mean, It's 864 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: more like you know, the that's like a rich person saying, 865 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 4: like prescription drugs. So, no, I had a back injury 866 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 4: and I got addicted to OPIOI it's because of my 867 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 4: back as opposed to, hey, I was going through it. 868 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 4: So I just got a bottle of you know, Mad 869 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 4: Dog twenty twenty, and I just couldn't stop it's two 870 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 4: different things, I think in her mind, but really it's 871 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 4: the same. Addiction is addiction and self medicatd she admitted 872 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 4: to self medicating, and then she alluded to, you know, 873 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 4: sexual abuse in the past, and I get that a 874 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 4: lot of us can understand that and relate to that. 875 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 4: But Karen and I just want you to know, like 876 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 4: it's we're not gonna well, I'm I don't think anyone 877 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 4: here is gonna judge you any less for having an addiction. 878 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 4: Addiction is addiction, whether you're self medicating through prescription drugs 879 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 4: or alcohol. It's too dull, some kind of pain like 880 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 4: that is the problem that needs to be addressed, right 881 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: because it's gonna always be, you know, a substance. But 882 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 4: I think she thinks it's a little classy or maybe 883 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not in her mind, but as an 884 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: outsider looking in, I think that's maybe she thinks it's 885 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 4: like a less like I don't know, derogatory diagnosis, a 886 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 4: less negative thing to be prescription drugs instead of alcohol. 887 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: Dustin, do you think Karen was trying to downplay her 888 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: alcoholism by mentioning prescription drugs and even saying that she 889 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 2: prefers narcotics anonymous versus alcohol anonymous. 890 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. 891 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 5: I think that from her years on the show, we 892 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 5: know that people calling her a drunk is a trigger 893 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 5: for her, you know what I'm saying. That's why they 894 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 5: will always weaponize it and use it. We remember people 895 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 5: to Giselle in season six when they were at Wendy's 896 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 5: nude interlude and she was telling Karen, I'm just going 897 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 5: to tell your truth. I'm gonna tell your drunk truth. 898 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you. They've always weaponized that towards her. 899 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 5: You were sitting at a bar with blue eyes at. 900 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 6: A bar, You're drunk. They've always said that. 901 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 5: So yes, I think that she was trying to run 902 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 5: away from being as attached. I think she was trying 903 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 5: to run away from alcoholism. Being at the center of 904 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 5: this story, if that makes any sense. 905 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 6: She was willing to. 906 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 5: Acknowledge it, but really stepping in and standing in and saying, y'all, 907 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 5: I have a drinking problem, and that and I was 908 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 5: drunk that night, off my ass, and you know, she 909 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 5: added in a lot of other elements and layers which 910 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 5: may be relevant. I don't know, you know what I'm saying, 911 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 5: but We know she has an issue with alcohol. We 912 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 5: saw that video, we saw the car, we saw Ray 913 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 5: trying his best. 914 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 6: To go through that pocketbook. 915 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 5: We know that Karen has an issue with alcohol, and 916 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 5: so I just hope that she she is able to 917 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 5: be in lifelong treatment like she suggested she was going 918 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 5: to be in and work towards, you know, healing with that. 919 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 5: Because yeah, I'll just say that, and she did. 920 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 4: She did eventually admit to being having a is she 921 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 4: with alcohol. So I don't want people to think that 922 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 4: we're saying she didn't admit it, and she didn't say 923 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: it the way we wanted her to say it when 924 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 4: I say that, but it was like she wanted to 925 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 4: go to the NA member. She had a choice between 926 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 4: narcotics anonymous and alcoholic anonymous. She says she preferred that. 927 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 4: I think she I'm We're, hey, y'all, we're just giving 928 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 4: our opinions. We don't know her like that. We're just 929 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 4: giving our opinions outsiders looking in what it appeared like 930 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 4: she did. To her credit, she definitely did. When pressed, 931 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 4: she did say she did have a problem with drinking, 932 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 4: and she did own it. But I feel like her 933 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 4: first mind was to go towards the prescription drugs before 934 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 4: the alcohol. That's all we're saying, y'all, we're not dragging Karen. 935 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 4: We are definitely giving her props. And it couldn't have 936 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 4: been easy to have to sit there across from Andy 937 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 4: one week out when you probably just don't want to 938 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 4: talk about it anymore. She probably had to talk about 939 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 4: it so much in jail. 940 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was my thing and the second part 941 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: of my own feelings. 942 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: And again I'm really speaking as a producer too, And 943 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: like I said, I would have done the exact same 944 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 2: thing producers have done. 945 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: So I'm really watching this to his viewer. 946 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: I just don't think Karen was ready to have a conversation, 947 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody let's have a real conversation. 948 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't think. 949 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: Anybody is ready a week after being in jail for 950 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: ten months talking about something so difficult some may think embarrassing. 951 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: My heart bled for Karen throughout that entire forty. 952 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: Two minute episode. 953 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: That and it does it's onto something because again I 954 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 2: was I was watching Teresa lead prison to see her children. 955 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you all the difference. Teresa was 956 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: in prison because of something her. 957 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,959 Speaker 2: Husband did, and they had nothing to do with any 958 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: self inflicted. 959 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: Reasons that she was there. She unfortunately signed some paperwork. 960 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 2: That was presented to her and she got locked up, right, 961 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: So seeing that that was much more of a warm 962 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 2: welcome dust Inpy. Maybe it is sort of like seeing 963 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 2: like your your big auntie, your grown untie, your whatever. 964 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 6: Your mama. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it just. 965 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: In that fragile state. 966 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 2: I I had a I had. 967 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: An you nosy. 968 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 2: I had an extremely hard time finishing it because I 969 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 2: wanted to reach through the television until Karen hold her 970 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: hands saying everything's gonna be okay, and and you don't 971 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 2: owe me nothing, and I'm gonna say this and I'm 972 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: not gonna take it back. 973 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Heavenly. 974 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: The reason I can say I think Karen should have 975 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 2: waited maybe three months to do the interview is because 976 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 2: there's so much to process being in prison for that 977 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: long period of time. And just last week I dropped 978 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,479 Speaker 2: an interview that I did with British Williams otherwise who 979 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: was in prison, dusn't and Claudia for nineteen months. She 980 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 2: was in prison for nineteen months and the beauty of 981 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 2: my conversation with British doesn't Claudia. I had her exclusive 982 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 2: interview before she went to jail, and thank you British 983 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: and her team for giving me the exclusive post prison 984 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: and Claudia Dustin and arranged y'all watched it. What I 985 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 2: will say to you is she it was two different 986 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 2: people who British was about to turn herself in. When 987 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: she interviewed me, she made excuses. She was out accountable. 988 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 2: She said, we all did it. Why did I get 989 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: called boomah blah boom And I remember being looking at 990 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 2: her like baby, I just want you to heal. 991 00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 1: When British got out exclusive for you guys her credit. 992 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: She waited two months maybe three months before she spoke 993 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 2: to me because she had to get back to life. 994 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: She has a daughter, she had to get acclimated to life. 995 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: In my interview, she said, Carlos, I took for granted 996 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 2: smelling fresh air. 997 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 1: I am not gonna cry. 998 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 2: She said she took for granted smelling fresh air because 999 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 2: she was able to allow herself to process it. And 1000 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 2: the thing with Karen that made me so sad for her. 1001 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: I I just don't think she should have done it. 1002 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 2: I would have wanted her to wait three months to 1003 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 2: process something she went through as a. 1004 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: Older woman on television doesn't is right. 1005 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know, she was weaponized as the old lady 1006 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: drunk or the drunk who would pass out at bars. 1007 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 2: And I just don't think Karen was ready to have 1008 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: a conversation. 1009 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: And that's fine. I don't I think anybody. 1010 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 2: Is fucking ready to have a conversation a week after 1011 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 2: after going home for prison. Let me let me sit still. 1012 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 2: And my concern for her is the fact that all 1013 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: of the attention, I just don't want these I don't 1014 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 2: want the attention that she's getting now to do anything 1015 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 2: to her spirit that allows her to return to something 1016 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: she's trying to break away from. 1017 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 4: I think some people and folks might get mad about this, 1018 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 4: are having an issue with like like I'm seeing people 1019 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 4: saying they don't feel bad because although she did not 1020 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 4: harm anyone in this last incident, it could have gone 1021 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 4: really bad. It didn't. But it is something that we 1022 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 4: got to start taking seriously. And anyone, my heart goes 1023 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 4: out to anyone who has lost anyone in a drunk 1024 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 4: driving accident where they was mine of their business and 1025 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 4: they were round, they were they hit head on and 1026 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 4: they survived the accident because they're loose, and the the 1027 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 4: victim dies, you know what I'm saying. So I just 1028 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 4: I feel like I don't want people to think we're 1029 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 4: bathing her because we love her. It is a serious issue, 1030 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 4: and that's why I think I know me personally, that's 1031 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 4: why I'm staying on the I don't think she's like 1032 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: wanting to embrace the alcoholic part. It is very serious 1033 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 4: and that's why she was made to sit down for 1034 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 4: a little while. And yes, I do agree with you, Carls. 1035 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 4: I do think a week was too soon, like because 1036 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 4: you go through your prison. I mean I've never been, 1037 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 4: of course, to jail at prison, but you go through it, 1038 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 4: I would imagine there's gotta be some decompressing and maybe 1039 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 4: you're not processing everything in jail. Maybe when you get 1040 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 4: out is when you do and you realize damn, like 1041 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 4: I haven't been able to Maybe it hits you later, 1042 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 4: but maybe more time could have been taken. It did 1043 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 4: seem like it was a little soon in the game. 1044 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 4: And I bet you if they interviewed her, or if 1045 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 4: you interviewed her and like maybe two three months, it 1046 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 4: may come across even better. For her because she's had 1047 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 4: time to really process everything. 1048 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 5: Motherfuckers can miss me with the selective outrage when it 1049 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 5: comes to Karen Huger. Not in the world where you 1050 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 5: got Kim Barell literally doing interviews on the Red Carpet 1051 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 5: saying as a mother and as a Christian, she loves r. 1052 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 6: Kelly as a person and she supports his music. Nobody 1053 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 6: gave a damn about that. 1054 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 5: And he is in jail right now for doing crimes 1055 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 5: against children, right. Yeah, she said that recently on the 1056 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 5: Red Carpet because she had covered his shrap in the closet. 1057 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 6: Beat miss me with it. 1058 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 5: Karen went to motherfucking jail for her fourth DUI, which 1059 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 5: is egregious as fun, unsafe as fuck, very dangerous, and 1060 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 5: could have resulted in some very dire consequences. 1061 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 6: But jail. 1062 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 5: Going to jail itself is of dire consequence. Okay, So 1063 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 5: she paid her debt to society. This moral grandstanding that 1064 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 5: people are doing when we living in today's world where 1065 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 5: y'all don't make an issue out of nothing the fuck else. 1066 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 5: But y'all want to throw the book at Karen Huger 1067 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 5: because she was it was her fourth DUI. That's a 1068 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 5: little unfair to me, So people can miss me with that. 1069 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 5: We're talking about an older black woman who went to jail, 1070 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 5: paid her. 1071 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 6: Debt to society and it's out. 1072 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 5: Now what else we supposed to do to her, y'all? 1073 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 5: What else were supposed to do? Every time we talk 1074 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 5: about her, we got to say, well, she could have 1075 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 5: killed somebody, not you, not even you I'm talking about. 1076 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 6: I just said it was, and we know it is. 1077 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 5: But that don't mean that we have to lambast her, 1078 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, when we are letting so 1079 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 5: much other shit slide that is morally decomposed. Okay, stop 1080 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 5: trying to hold her to a higher standard and act 1081 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 5: like but she was wrong, So we got to make 1082 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 5: sure we mention it every time when they don't say 1083 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 5: shit else about a whole lot of other shit dolling 1084 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 5: people's songs. That's why I said, not audience, y'all still 1085 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 5: listening to songs, y'all. Still it's still patronizing certain things. 1086 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 5: Y'all are still doing all that. So I understand that 1087 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 5: Karen committed a very serious crime, but miss me with 1088 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 5: all of that, because it ain't just her that's fucking up. 1089 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 5: And I don't understand why after she did a whole 1090 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 5: bit people still want motherfuckers to just I don't know 1091 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 5: what they want, but I don't like that. I don't 1092 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 5: like that misalignment. That's not fair, Claudia. 1093 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that when it comes to Karen that 1094 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: people are justified for and listen, we're humans and you 1095 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: can do what you want to do a child. Do 1096 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 2: you think, though, Claudia, that people are justified who believe that, 1097 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, whatever, Karen, you could have killed somebody, and 1098 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to constantly remind you of your behavior every 1099 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 2: chance I get. 1100 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair to her? Do you understand it? 1101 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 2: Or do you think people should allow some grace to 1102 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 2: happen and just see what happens, because one thing they 1103 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 2: do tell you in AA is to take it one 1104 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 2: day at a time. 1105 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 4: Do I think it's fair that people keep reminding her 1106 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 4: that you said, you meet you. 1107 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: You know some people they're like, like you were saying earlier, 1108 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: there are people who are saying, like. 1109 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for her, like she could have 1110 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: killed somebody. 1111 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that people should Do you think do 1112 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: you think it's right that people feel the need to 1113 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 2: obviously mention that as she did her bid. 1114 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 4: I think the only reason that people are doing not 1115 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 4: the one of the reasons people are doing that is 1116 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 4: because they felt in that interview she still wasn't embracing it. 1117 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 4: And that's why I'm a little bit like, oh, perfect opportunity. 1118 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 4: Just embrace it, address it, and you can move on 1119 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 4: and then no one could fall to for it. That's 1120 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 4: all I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. Like, it's like, 1121 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 4: if she would have just handled it that in that moment, 1122 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 4: no everyone could shut the hell up about it. Because 1123 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 4: she did kind of denying it is what's making people say, yeah, 1124 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 4: but you could have you know what I'm saying. So 1125 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 4: I think she missed an opportunity to just like shut 1126 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 4: it down right, then of course you're gonna have people. 1127 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I also think this too. I'm trying to cut you 1128 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: all clos because I love that we're having this debate. 1129 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 2: That's the reason why I keep saying like, and again, 1130 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to suff promote because you could. I 1131 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 2: do encourage anybody to if you have two hours to spare, 1132 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 2: watch British before she went to prison, and watched British 1133 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: talking to me three months after prison is a different person, 1134 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 2: because I do think there is something about allowing yourself 1135 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 2: to heal without Let's have a rough conversation. 1136 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Can you to imagine going. 1137 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 2: Through something that you felt was embarrassing And I'm like, hey, Dustin, 1138 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 2: you want to have a mother not live, I'm gonna 1139 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 2: pay you X amount of dollars. 1140 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: You're like, well, shit, I need the money. I was 1141 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: out of work for a year, you know. And again 1142 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:49,919 Speaker 1: you don't. 1143 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 2: You don't, And I do want people to get for 1144 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 2: for the second this conversation, let's not think of the addiction. 1145 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: What I'm thinking of. 1146 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Imagine an embarrassing moment for you and you talk about 1147 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 2: it a week later, and maybe at that time you 1148 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: don't know how to process it. When people are saying 1149 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Karen did not take anyccomfortability, I would encourage you all 1150 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: to give her some grace in terms of it was 1151 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 2: a week after she got out, and sure and ten months, yes, 1152 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 2: of course she could have. But it took me to 1153 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 2: talk to British for British to say to me, Carlos, 1154 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: I did not get it until months end, and she 1155 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 2: was there for nineteen months, and she admitted it took 1156 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 2: her months to accept her fate and to stop blaming God. 1157 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 4: So I think that's something we could all agree on. 1158 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 4: Then it was too soon. It was too soon. The 1159 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 4: lessons got to stick. When the lesson's gonna stick, she's 1160 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 4: not gonna get it on our timeline. It's going to 1161 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 4: be on hers. And maybe the thing that's that fault 1162 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 4: here is the timing that it was a little soon. 1163 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,439 Speaker 4: I bet you month from now she'll have an even 1164 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 4: deeper perspective of it. All that will be that no 1165 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 4: one could really criticize as much. I think it was. Yeah, 1166 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 4: it was. That's why I was like, blink twice. If 1167 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 4: you're being forced to do this interview, I mean so soon. 1168 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 4: Of course you want to have this interview, But I 1169 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 4: actually think, like you just getting home, you're feeling me like, yeah, 1170 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 4: it's great TV for us, But personally for her, that 1171 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 4: probably wasn't the best thing for her. For her about her, 1172 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 4: I was eating that shit up. I was like, oh 1173 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 4: my god, this is this is so she's being raw, 1174 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 4: but for her, that wasn't probably the best thing for her. 1175 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 5: My thing is the piece I was speaking to about 1176 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 5: people holding her to a higher moral standard than they're 1177 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 5: holding any fucking body else. That conversation got started the 1178 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 5: day that we found out she was released from from 1179 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 5: the facility she was in. That's when the conversation started. 1180 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 5: Karen shouldn't have got out of jail. She don't deserve 1181 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 5: to come back to this show, you know, x y Z. 1182 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 5: All of that chatter started right then. So the interview 1183 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 5: didn't make it any better because she wasn't And Carlos, 1184 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 5: she brought up such a great example referencing the British 1185 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 5: Williams exit interview because I watched you know, of course 1186 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 5: I don't watching anything you put out, nigga, So I 1187 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 5: watched the first interview, and of course I just watched 1188 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 5: the most recent interview, and her perspective. 1189 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 6: On the shift or pivot mentally she had to make. 1190 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 5: Was so different, and so it was such a stark 1191 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 5: contrast from karen sentiments about something that was both two 1192 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 5: totally different crimes, but it was a different reflection post release. 1193 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 5: So I get exactly what you're saying. The only thing 1194 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying is get up off of her. If y'all 1195 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 5: not gonna pold every motherfucking body to that same standard, 1196 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 5: because it seems unfair to me. 1197 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Orage. 1198 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: I think we'll get a better understanding of where she 1199 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 4: is at the reunion because that's way But then also 1200 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 4: that's also gonna be made potentially a hostile situation. Who 1201 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 4: knows on my throat stuff on her face? But we'll 1202 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 4: get to see there's any growth there. 1203 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1204 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 2: Probably Our last one is I want to get into 1205 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Karen has smoke for Wendy and as look, I have 1206 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: watched every single frame, every single scene of Potomac. 1207 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Dustin. 1208 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: I know you have to Claudia, she's just getting warmed 1209 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: up to the show and she loves it too. But 1210 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: unless I miss something and Dustin, I feel like Dustin 1211 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 2: knows way more, does it remembers way more than. 1212 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: I can about these shows. 1213 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the hell Wendy did to Karen 1214 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 2: for Wendy to deserve this level of smoke. She said, 1215 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 2: Dustin and Claudia that look when Andy showed her how 1216 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 2: the girls were talking about her at the reunion. This 1217 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 2: is me being a view were I'm gonna get to 1218 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 2: that brown exsign. Look Ashley saying that, yeah, she was 1219 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 2: in legal seafood, you know, drinking and pretty much falling 1220 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 2: off a chairs. Then the girl's talking about that, and 1221 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: Wendy said their quiet and said, well, you were pressing me. 1222 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to know, Ashley said at first, 1223 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 2: because in Wendy's defense, Wendy wasn't gonna say anything. It 1224 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: took Ashley to say it. And Wendy said, what Ashley 1225 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 2: said is what I was going to say when y'all 1226 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 2: were pressuring me. So for Karen to say I did 1227 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 2: not mention her on purpose, and she knows why I 1228 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,919 Speaker 2: did not mention her. And I'm just like, I don't 1229 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: remember any scene where Wendy deserved the smoke that Karen's 1230 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: giving her justin did I miss something? 1231 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 5: No, you didn't, My brother, that rift originated on screen 1232 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 5: for us at the reunion with the omission of Wendy 1233 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 5: from Karen's video of thank yous and reflections, and we 1234 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 5: were all sitting there just is confused, and apparently it's 1235 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 5: still up, you know what I'm saying. Karen said, it's 1236 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 5: still up. It's still beat. What's up? 1237 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 6: And so I think that we all have a couple 1238 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 6: of question marks there, and. 1239 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 5: I just hope it's not another situation where like you 1240 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 5: wish death on my husband. You know what I'm saying, 1241 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 5: where like, Karen, this is a made up grievance, Like, 1242 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 5: what are you talking about? I hope it's not another 1243 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 5: situation like that, and knowing Karen, it could be, so 1244 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 5: we'll see. But I know she was playing ping pong 1245 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 5: with Wendy at that reunion when she taught her I 1246 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about because I've been through follow 1247 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 5: me with Professor, shut the fuck up. When she said 1248 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 5: that on that reunion trailer, I was like, yeah, okay, 1249 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 5: so she came out swinging, so it'll be good. But no, 1250 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell she mad at Wendy for. 1251 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 5: She's just mad at her. 1252 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 4: Did Wendy speak on Karen's imprisonment in her case, didn't 1253 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 4: I hear something? 1254 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Is that you? 1255 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: No? 1256 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 6: She didn't. 1257 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 2: And and Claudia, to Duss's point, last season, it wasn't 1258 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 2: after reunion because she was serving time. So she did 1259 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: a video that you saw Claudia where she pretty much 1260 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: she thank everybody, plus Andy the production child. She thanked 1261 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Craft Services, baby, the doorman, the security guard. 1262 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 4: The grips, everybody, even the grips. 1263 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 2: Behind the boy baby, and she elected to say Wendy's name. 1264 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: So we're just confused what Wendy did, and she was crypted. 1265 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: She said she knows what she did. 1266 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, can you tell us, babe, because 1267 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 4: we don't, so maybe we'll maybe we'll find out the reunion. 1268 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Seeing Karen there at the reunion, like the clips I've 1269 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,600 Speaker 4: seen so far, like I thought the season was very entertainment, 1270 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 4: very entertaining. I said at the beginning, damn Potomac girl. 1271 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 4: They work hard for their checks and see there's no dead, 1272 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 4: dull scenes. But then seeing Karen with the girls, I'm like, 1273 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 4: it's like if you weren't judging the Olympics and you 1274 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,839 Speaker 4: judge gymnastics and you gave like a ten to performance 1275 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 4: and you're like ten, and then the very next act 1276 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 4: comes out to that and you're like, god, damn it, 1277 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 4: I can't give a score a high and in ten, 1278 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 4: that's what it looks like when Karen's added now, because 1279 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 4: now I'm like, I can't wait for now her back, 1280 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 4: like if I liked it, because you know, I haven't 1281 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 4: really been I haven't been an avid watching from the beginning. 1282 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 4: I've just poked around here and there and I'm in 1283 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 4: the salon. But this past year with you guys, I've 1284 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 4: been watching it full on every single week, but I'm 1285 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 4: just like, I'm like, wow, I've been missing out all 1286 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 4: these years, Like I'm looking forward to it. 1287 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it looked good. I miss Karen. Okay, then they 1288 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 6: make you miss Karen Claudia. 1289 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 5: Like just seeing her in that little corner of the 1290 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 5: reunion trailer, I was like. 1291 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 6: Damn, and she looked good. 1292 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 4: That dress, the hair batter and like she looked she 1293 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 4: was doing it. What did he say? That's food or 1294 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 4: is it a boob coming up? 1295 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 6: He said his dog. He had to let his dog out. 1296 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 4: Oh, they beget some people like when we talk about 1297 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 4: our personal lives, but sometimes they get mad. Oh y'all 1298 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 4: to wait too much talk about sexy with I'm like, 1299 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 4: can we we don't. We haven't been able to hang 1300 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 4: out in person. Can we just key key for a 1301 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 4: little bit? We gotta, y'all mad? We talk about other people, 1302 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 4: then you Maden, we talk about each other. You mad, 1303 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 4: We talk abo ourselves. 1304 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 2: It's all great the show so Plentia doesn't Brianna Aaron 1305 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 2: said it must be serious though, because Ashley said on 1306 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 2: Washing what happens a lot? I'm sorry on the after 1307 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 2: show that whatever Karen is mad at Wendy. 1308 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: About is justified. 1309 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 6: Wen See. 1310 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 2: Okay, last thing, what did y'all think when this this 1311 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 2: touched me? What did y'all think when Karen said that 1312 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 2: she and Ray are a work in progress and he 1313 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 2: offered her to leave him once she took the monkey 1314 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: off her back? 1315 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 6: It's honest. 1316 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 4: If you love something, let it go and if it 1317 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 4: comes back it's meant to be, and then let it 1318 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,759 Speaker 4: go again, just to make sure, not let it go twice. 1319 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 5: But the thing about it, I feel like if Karen 1320 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 5: lens Ray go, she's gonna hold his arm and walk 1321 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 5: him out of the house down the driveway. Right, She's 1322 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 5: never really gonna let go of Right, you know what 1323 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 5: I'm saying. I don't think they're ever gonna break up. 1324 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 5: I actually am exhausted with them. You know we're going through, Karen, 1325 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,959 Speaker 5: You've been talking at Yang for what tense fucking seasons 1326 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 5: about you and Ray? 1327 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 6: Who first your marriage is an institution, Then you know 1328 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 6: we go through. I'm tired of it. Ain't nothing wrong 1329 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 6: with you and Ray. 1330 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 5: That man is sitting there, just happy to have on 1331 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 5: his sweater and his sandsor belts and his shoes and 1332 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 5: just Ray is just happy to be you know, have 1333 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 5: his clothes on, eat a meal during the day. He 1334 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 5: is not causing no problems, okay, And so I am 1335 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 5: having trouble believing that. I'll just be honest about that. 1336 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 5: I don't think there's nothing wrong. 1337 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I actually agree. 1338 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 5: I don't think there's nothing wrong with her and Ray, 1339 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 5: and I'm sick of it. 1340 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 2: I think Ray is somebody who's like, I live a 1341 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: great life. I mean a lot of money made, money lost, money, 1342 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,680 Speaker 2: may may lost again, like everybody does in life. And 1343 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 2: I think Ray is at the point of his life 1344 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 2: where he's like, I'm just I'm just happy to be 1345 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 2: around and seeing my kids grow up. 1346 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,839 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Karen, I think Karen, 1347 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 1: and we're gonna say this, I'm gonna move on from. 1348 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 2: It because it's true. I think Karen. Listen, Karen's gorgeous. 1349 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 2: She looks much younger than her age. And I think 1350 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 2: Ray understands that his wife is very young and happening 1351 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 2: and may get attention. 1352 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: And I think he's like, if that's what you want, 1353 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop you. I really do think he's like, dude. 1354 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 4: Raise eighty two, right, He's eighty two years old. Yeah, yeah, 1355 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 4: Ray's like, I'm not starting over again, and Karen's like, dah, 1356 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 4: I got a new lease on life. I just got 1357 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 4: out of Slammer. I ain't done it in six months. 1358 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 4: I don't know what Ray's going through, but I'm still 1359 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,799 Speaker 4: kind of popping on. I look good, hands together, face snatched. 1360 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 4: I worked out in the gym, posting us up, raise down. 1361 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 4: I think Karen, she says, you want to have fun, 1362 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 4: but you want to leave your old faithful like that 1363 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 4: is definitely your security. But I feel, you know, he's 1364 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 4: eighty two, though he is eighty two, Just stay put. 1365 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: All right? 1366 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 2: So next week, guys, it's the beginning of a three 1367 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 2: partner union for a Potomac that we will be recapping. 1368 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,799 Speaker 1: And look, I'm missing my Atlanta peaches. 1369 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 2: So when are we getting getting an announcement, a trailer something? 1370 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 6: Look? 1371 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Look, can we officially know if Cay Michelle has joined 1372 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: the cast? 1373 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 5: And we need to see how this castewka, my cousin 1374 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 5: told me. 1375 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 1376 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership. 1377 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: With the Lack of Effect Network. 1378 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 1379 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore