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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to The Buck Sexton Show. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: On this episode, we have a first timer. Anna Perez

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Speaker 1: is with us. Welcome Anna. She is the host of

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Speaker 1: Wrong Think on LFA TV and we have a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Anna, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with this is the country doomed? I'll just

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Speaker 1: give I'll give you one. We'll start at the thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand foot level. How do we fix this mess? Eighteen

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Speaker 1: percent of people now, according to Gallup this week, think

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Speaker 1: that America is in a good place. Everybody else is like,

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Speaker 1: this is not going well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I talked about on today's episode of my show,

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Speaker 2: Wrong Think, how a lot of Americans are waking up

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Speaker 2: to the reality, which is that our government operates against us.

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Speaker 2: They are not here working in our favorite And what

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Speaker 2: could be more telling of that than what happened to

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Speaker 2: Tara Reed just recently where she decided that she was

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Speaker 2: safer in Russia than she was here in the United States. Now,

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Speaker 2: why was she safer there, Well, because she's a whistleblower

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Speaker 2: against the Biden regime, of course, and what we're seeing now,

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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of Americans are waking up

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Speaker 2: to it. Obviously, the government has been you know, weaponized

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Speaker 2: against the American people for a very long time. We

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Speaker 2: saw it with Julian Nassangje, we saw it with Snowden,

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Speaker 2: We saw it with tons of people in the past.

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Speaker 2: But now it's becoming very very obvious under Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: that should you dare say anything that goes against him,

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Speaker 2: you will face the consequences. You will face the wrath

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Speaker 2: of the deep state. We saw it with January sixth

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Speaker 2: as well, all the people who are wrongfully imprisoned as

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Speaker 2: a result of protesting that day. It's just such a

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Speaker 2: mess and it could not be more obvious. So I

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Speaker 2: think even a lot of Americans, even on the left,

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Speaker 2: because there is a group of I think anti government,

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Speaker 2: anti establishment, I should say, more than anything, leftists that

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Speaker 2: are very dissatisfied with the government. Similarly, you see a

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Speaker 2: lot of people on the right who are obviously against

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Speaker 2: the government. They're not totally happy with what they've been doing.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been for a while. So you see a

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Speaker 2: lot of anti establishment groups rising on both the left

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Speaker 2: and the right. So that doesn't surprise me that only

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Speaker 2: eighteen percent of Americans are actually happy with the government.

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Speaker 2: I think both sides can see right now how terrible

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Speaker 2: it is, because it's scary even if you don't even

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Speaker 2: if you liked Joe Biden, even if you liked whoever

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Speaker 2: was president. The reality is, once they reach a certain

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Speaker 2: level of control or power where they can just up

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Speaker 2: and decide that you're a domestic terrorist. If they have

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Speaker 2: the power to do that, then who's to say that

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Speaker 2: the next president won't do that, or who's to say

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Speaker 2: that the next regime won't do that. It's very scary,

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Speaker 2: and so I don't know as far as whether I

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Speaker 2: think we're doomed. I think that there's a lot we

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Speaker 2: could be doing. I think a lot of people say, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: well we need a civil war right now. Well, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of steps we could be taking to fight

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Speaker 2: some of the power hungry elites that we haven't taken yet.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't quite reached the level where I think

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Speaker 2: a civil war is necessary. And by the way, when

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Speaker 2: I say civil war, I don't mean like everybody engaging

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Speaker 2: in like, you know, a nineteenth century style like civil

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Speaker 2: war that we already have. I mean, you know, it

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Speaker 2: would be a little bit different. Obviously, it would look different.

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Speaker 2: I think would be more people moving.

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Speaker 1: People talk about the people talk about national divorce, for example,

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Speaker 1: which I think is more along the lines, which would

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Speaker 1: of the country into increasingly two visions that seem to

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Speaker 1: be not just different in their means, but different in

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Speaker 1: their ends, a fundamentally incompatible view of the relationship between

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: when they say, oh, we might need a civil war,

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Speaker 2: idiots you know, across the country like are like, oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, we're calling for war. You're calling for violence. No, idiot, Like, obviously,

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Speaker 2: when we say there could be a civil war, we

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Speaker 2: it would be much It would look much different than

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Speaker 2: the way it sounds. But I don't think it's necessarily

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Speaker 2: out of the question. Don't get me wrong. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think we've exhausted every single uh you know thing,

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Speaker 1: So on the issue of well, we can get into

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Trump Descantis stuff, but I want

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Speaker 1: to start with the birthright citizenship thing that Trump has

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Speaker 1: brought up, essentially saying that if he wins the presidency again,

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Speaker 1: he will end with an executive order birthright citizenship on

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Speaker 1: day one. How do how do you view this? You're

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Speaker 1: a Latina American, right as well as being a conservative.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is one the right political move

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Speaker 1: a constitution? So there's the political component and the constitutional component.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, I think he's on the right side politically,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's doing exactly what we were hoping

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Speaker 2: he would have done. Actually when in his first term,

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Speaker 2: I will say this, as far as his political journey goes,

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Speaker 2: I think he had the right message in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of Americans were excited to

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Speaker 2: see that somebody actually spoke about this issue with fearlessness,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he was unafraid of being called all

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Speaker 2: I think in twenty twenty, that election year, I think

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Speaker 2: to the fault of the people that he was surrounded by,

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Speaker 2: really the advice they were giving him, they sort of

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Speaker 2: talked him out of continuing this whole, you know, this

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Speaker 2: border crisis, which we do, and he started to almost

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Speaker 2: was scared a little bit of these racist labels. Not personally,

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Speaker 2: but the people around him advising him didn't want him

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Speaker 2: had in the past. And I think that, in fact,

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Speaker 2: it's not really my opinion, it's a fact. It definitely

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Speaker 2: hurt him with the white male vote in particular. And

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Speaker 2: I think this is great to see that he's kind

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Speaker 2: of bringing back the same energy from twenty fifteen twenty

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Speaker 2: and I'm not they only want plenty of Americans, whether

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Speaker 2: and tired of seeing this country being overrun by a

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Speaker 2: you know, illegal aliens. But then of course their offspring,

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Speaker 2: the benefits of the state. Okay, they mooch off of

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Speaker 2: our government, and they really give nothing else in return.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this goes far enough. I think we

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Speaker 2: need a border moratorium. But to your point, politics is

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Speaker 2: what do they say, the art of the possible, and

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know if this is something that's going

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Speaker 2: to actually work out. I think the idea is there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it goes far enough. I hope to

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Speaker 2: see more, you know, more happen, like a moratorium in

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Speaker 2: addition to the ending birth rate idea. However, yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: but a lot of you know, milk toast Republicans I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we'll get right in this way. A lot of

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Speaker 2: but politically it certainly is the right idea.

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Speaker 1: So don't answer this yet, Anna, We're gonna do a

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Speaker 2: Well, as it stands for me, it's definitely Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why that is is because even though

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Speaker 2: appreciate that. However, when you look at candidates holistically, that's

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Speaker 2: his stance on that, And as far as the GOP

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine is Donald Trump. If you listen to Mike Pence,

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Speaker 2: America first. Well, no, it's not. Mike Pence was also

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Speaker 2: And then you look at Ronda Santis, who you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to withdraw any support we have immediately. I

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Speaker 2: don't care about anything. They just want money. I mean,

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00:20:59,057 --> 00:21:01,937
Speaker 2: that's really how Hollywood is, That's how the entertainment industry is.

431
00:21:02,017 --> 00:21:05,217
Speaker 2: It's not surprising, it's just disappointing, and it tells us

432
00:21:05,217 --> 00:21:08,097
Speaker 2: that we're a very long way from actually solving this problem.

433
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Speaker 1: Now, how you may have seen this, actually I think

434
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Speaker 1: it just broke. You might not have seen it. It

435
00:21:15,457 --> 00:21:18,497
Speaker 1: just broke today. You know, ESPN is at its headquarter

436
00:21:18,577 --> 00:21:21,737
Speaker 1: is going to be flying not the Pride flag per se,

437
00:21:22,297 --> 00:21:26,097
Speaker 1: but the Pride plus trans flag, where I guess it's

438
00:21:26,097 --> 00:21:28,697
Speaker 1: now just the trans flag. This is and I have

439
00:21:28,737 --> 00:21:32,297
Speaker 1: to wonder if we have seen with the NHL, for example,

440
00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:35,817
Speaker 1: players get in trouble because they didn't want to wear

441
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Speaker 1: like a rainbow on the helmet or something, some symbol

442
00:21:40,297 --> 00:21:44,657
Speaker 1: of support for Pride Month, which would be the rainbow flag.

443
00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:48,537
Speaker 1: How long is it before players are required to support

444
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Speaker 1: trans month or a rather trans flag during Pride Month.

445
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Speaker 2: I look, I'm sure there's already a social pressure to

446
00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,897
Speaker 2: do that. It's so sad too, because it's interesting how

447
00:22:00,977 --> 00:22:03,657
Speaker 2: this happens. This is only really successful in the United

448
00:22:03,657 --> 00:22:05,977
Speaker 2: States of America and in the West. I'm sure it

449
00:22:05,977 --> 00:22:08,217
Speaker 2: happens in Canada all the time. But you look at

450
00:22:08,217 --> 00:22:11,697
Speaker 2: a country, I believe it was. They played the World

451
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Speaker 2: Cup in Qatar and they were making I think they

452
00:22:16,777 --> 00:22:20,937
Speaker 2: banned gay marriage there in general, and people were to

453
00:22:21,017 --> 00:22:25,657
Speaker 2: show that our protest, the American soccer team wore pride flags.

454
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Speaker 2: We look like idiots to the rest of the world.

455
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Speaker 2: And it's sad because this country is seventy percent Christian.

456
00:22:31,137 --> 00:22:33,297
Speaker 2: Why is it that we're not allowed to stand true

457
00:22:33,337 --> 00:22:36,257
Speaker 2: to on our religious values and all these other countries,

458
00:22:36,857 --> 00:22:40,377
Speaker 2: the Qatar being Muslim of course, it's totally acceptable for

459
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Speaker 2: them to be strong when it comes to their religious values.

460
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Speaker 2: It's like there's this there's this expectation for Christians to

461
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Speaker 2: kind of bend to the will of the left, but

462
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Speaker 2: nobody really expects that of Muslims, and that kind of

463
00:22:54,297 --> 00:22:56,617
Speaker 2: pisses me off. I mean, obviously that's another country, but

464
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, if this country were Muslim, I

465
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Speaker 2: bet they wouldn't give them the same issues that Christians

466
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Speaker 2: in this country get. So I think, really what it is,

467
00:23:05,057 --> 00:23:08,097
Speaker 2: it's weak Christianity. And you're right, I think there's only

468
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Speaker 2: a matter of time before a lot of these teams

469
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Speaker 2: are are basically forced to embrace transgenderism, which is a

470
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Speaker 2: whole other level of mental illness than even just the

471
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Speaker 2: gay Pride flag. But even the gay Pride flag was enough.

472
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is obviously a slippery slope. And as

473
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Speaker 2: soon as you start allowing them to control what you do,

474
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Speaker 2: these corporations, as soon as they allow themselves because that's

475
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Speaker 2: what these you know, these like these sports leagues are right,

476
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Speaker 2: and it's all about money at the end of the day,

477
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Speaker 2: and I get that, but you know there's power behind that.

478
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Speaker 2: If you stand up and say you're not going to

479
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Speaker 2: go along with this. And like there was that one

480
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Speaker 2: hockey player. He was a Russian guy. I think he

481
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Speaker 2: was Christian. He stood up against it when the NHL

482
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Speaker 2: was trying to push the whole Night of Pride thing,

483
00:23:47,617 --> 00:23:49,537
Speaker 2: he was like, no, I'm just not doing this. And

484
00:23:49,577 --> 00:23:51,897
Speaker 2: he actually got a lot of support for that. So

485
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Speaker 2: I think people would be shocked to see what would

486
00:23:54,657 --> 00:23:56,857
Speaker 2: happen if they all just decided I'm not doing this.

487
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Speaker 2: There'd be a lot There's a lot of people who

488
00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:02,057
Speaker 2: are silently sitting here suffering because they don't want to

489
00:24:02,057 --> 00:24:04,697
Speaker 2: speak out about it. And it's weak. It's weak Christianity.

490
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Speaker 2: And I just think that we need to demand respect

491
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Speaker 2: as Christians because this country is Christian. Nobody wants to it.

492
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Speaker 2: You look at our founding documents, you can find plenty

493
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Speaker 2: of evidence of that, and you look at the fact

494
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Speaker 2: that again seventy percent of this country does identify as Christian.

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Dodgers component and the sisters of Perpetual Indulgence,

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Speaker 1: You know you were talking you mentioned before, did you?

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Speaker 1: I think you use the term demonic or satanic? And

524
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Speaker 1: I find myself I'm a Catholic, but I don't do

525
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Speaker 1: a lot of religious talk on the air because I

526
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Speaker 1: honestly don't think that I am in depth enough in

527
00:26:07,177 --> 00:26:09,337
Speaker 1: my knowledge of it to be useful to a lot

528
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Speaker 1: of people. And it's just not something that is part

529
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Speaker 1: of my bailiwick. That's said, I do find myself using

530
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Speaker 1: terms like demonic and satanic and citing the biblical Moloch

531
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Speaker 1: and things like this give in some of the things

532
00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:28,137
Speaker 1: we're up against. The Dodgers aren't just inviting, but are

533
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Speaker 1: celebrating these sisters of perpetual indulgence and giving them an award.

534
00:26:33,777 --> 00:26:41,617
Speaker 1: These are transvestites who are desecrating Christian symbols on public display,

535
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Speaker 1: as if that somehow moves the convert. It's fun and

536
00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:49,017
Speaker 1: funny and moves the conversation forward about acceptance. I view

537
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Speaker 1: it as the opposite of acceptance, and I wonder where

538
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Speaker 1: you think the motivation for groups like that comes from.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing to your point. You know, I

540
00:27:00,737 --> 00:27:04,177
Speaker 2: never really considered myself, you know, an expert on I

541
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Speaker 2: guess faith or religion or anything of that sort. I

542
00:27:07,217 --> 00:27:09,897
Speaker 2: am Christian, but yeah, I'm the same way. I never

543
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Speaker 2: really felt comfortable saying using those terms demonic, satanic. In fact,

544
00:27:13,737 --> 00:27:17,297
Speaker 2: I didn't really until recently, because it's becoming increasingly more

545
00:27:17,297 --> 00:27:19,817
Speaker 2: difficult to look at this thing as a reasonable thing,

546
00:27:20,137 --> 00:27:23,337
Speaker 2: a reasonable movement that any human being would support. Tucker

547
00:27:23,377 --> 00:27:26,057
Speaker 2: Carlson recently gave a speech at Heritage where he essentially

548
00:27:26,097 --> 00:27:27,857
Speaker 2: said the same thing. This was right before he was

549
00:27:27,857 --> 00:27:30,897
Speaker 2: fired from Fox, and he essentially stated, like this is

550
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Speaker 2: a battle of good versus evil. He doesn't talk about

551
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Speaker 2: his faith really ever. In fact, he was making fun

552
00:27:36,217 --> 00:27:38,577
Speaker 2: of himself, saying that he's not really qualified to talk

553
00:27:38,577 --> 00:27:40,697
Speaker 2: about that sort of thing. But he said, when you

554
00:27:40,737 --> 00:27:44,097
Speaker 2: look at these conversations, this isn't about politics anymore. We're

555
00:27:44,097 --> 00:27:49,097
Speaker 2: not debating actual policy. This is about a spiritual issue

556
00:27:49,097 --> 00:27:51,617
Speaker 2: that we're dealing with. The fact that there are groups

557
00:27:51,657 --> 00:27:54,217
Speaker 2: like to your point, the Dodgers and embracing this the

558
00:27:54,257 --> 00:27:57,577
Speaker 2: mocking of Christianity. There is something deeper going on here,

559
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Speaker 2: and I'm not really I don't really wanted to say

560
00:28:00,377 --> 00:28:02,457
Speaker 2: exactly what that is, but I certainly, at this point

561
00:28:02,497 --> 00:28:04,937
Speaker 2: in my career, seeing what I've seen, I do believe

562
00:28:04,937 --> 00:28:07,217
Speaker 2: in spiritual warfare, and I'm starting to believe that there

563
00:28:07,297 --> 00:28:11,577
Speaker 2: is something much more sinister going on and people are,

564
00:28:11,697 --> 00:28:14,457
Speaker 2: you know, maybe being controlled by forces that we cannot see.

565
00:28:14,457 --> 00:28:17,017
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds crazy,

566
00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:20,737
Speaker 2: particularly to people who aren't Christian. Uh they probably are like, well,

567
00:28:20,777 --> 00:28:22,737
Speaker 2: you know, it's all about money, it's all about money. Well, yeah,

568
00:28:22,777 --> 00:28:24,937
Speaker 2: but what is Satan ruled by. It's ruled by you know,

569
00:28:25,017 --> 00:28:27,977
Speaker 2: Satanism is ruled by greed. It's ruled by money. Uh

570
00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:30,337
Speaker 2: So even if you even if you're not Christian, you

571
00:28:30,377 --> 00:28:33,377
Speaker 2: can see that on the very basic level that these

572
00:28:33,377 --> 00:28:36,617
Speaker 2: people are very controlled by money. And so they're probably

573
00:28:36,657 --> 00:28:38,857
Speaker 2: doing this in helps on the surface level, at least

574
00:28:38,937 --> 00:28:41,897
Speaker 2: at least in hopes that they'll be able to, you know,

575
00:28:42,057 --> 00:28:45,137
Speaker 2: continue to get money from you know, far left donors

576
00:28:45,177 --> 00:28:47,337
Speaker 2: or people that are just you know, it's it's a

577
00:28:47,457 --> 00:28:52,337
Speaker 2: very complicated series of series of alliances between I would

578
00:28:52,337 --> 00:28:57,217
Speaker 2: say politics and big corporations. But yeah, it's it's very

579
00:28:57,217 --> 00:28:59,537
Speaker 2: interesting to me what's going on, and there really is

580
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Speaker 2: no logical explanation. I will say this, I think they

581
00:29:02,217 --> 00:29:04,817
Speaker 2: are overplaying their hand in a lot of these things, like,

582
00:29:04,857 --> 00:29:07,377
Speaker 2: for example, the whole bud light thing. Really that was

583
00:29:07,417 --> 00:29:09,857
Speaker 2: a smart business decision to have. You thought you were

584
00:29:09,857 --> 00:29:13,337
Speaker 2: gonna make more money by putting Dylan mulvaney on the

585
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Speaker 2: face of your of your company bud light for beer drinkers,

586
00:29:17,097 --> 00:29:20,217
Speaker 2: you know, mostly straight men who just want to enjoy

587
00:29:20,257 --> 00:29:23,137
Speaker 2: a cheap beer, okay, or even look at sports for example,

588
00:29:23,137 --> 00:29:26,497
Speaker 2: the way that the LGBTQ movement has attacked sports is

589
00:29:26,537 --> 00:29:29,577
Speaker 2: also insane to me. This is not exactly the right

590
00:29:29,577 --> 00:29:32,337
Speaker 2: clientele to you know, eat that sort of thing up

591
00:29:32,417 --> 00:29:35,657
Speaker 2: like this is literally just your average guy likes to

592
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Speaker 2: watch sports, Like that's who you're going after. Like that

593
00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:40,857
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me at all. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I understand that their goal is to make money,

595
00:29:43,897 --> 00:29:46,057
Speaker 2: but again, I think they're just overplaying their hand at

596
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Speaker 2: this point and hopefully that will backfire.

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Speaker 1: If there was one thing I like to end the

598
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Speaker 1: podcast this way usually Anna, despite all the face the challenges,

599
00:29:57,137 --> 00:29:59,937
Speaker 1: the things we face. What makes you hopeful.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, I think gen Z is waking

601
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Speaker 2: up to a lot of these things. I'm more millennial.

602
00:30:08,817 --> 00:30:12,697
Speaker 2: I was born in ninety seven, but I'm still very

603
00:30:12,777 --> 00:30:14,857
Speaker 2: much a part of a generation millennials that bought into

604
00:30:14,897 --> 00:30:17,577
Speaker 2: a lot of this leftist mindset of oh, we have

605
00:30:17,737 --> 00:30:20,177
Speaker 2: to buy into all of this BS, we have to

606
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Speaker 2: acquiesce to a lot of it. I think millennials and

607
00:30:22,417 --> 00:30:25,337
Speaker 2: baby boomers are mostly responsible for this. I think kind

608
00:30:25,337 --> 00:30:27,217
Speaker 2: of gen X kind of got lost in the weeds there,

609
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Speaker 2: but Millennials have certainly been, you know, the perpetrators of

610
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Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that we're seeing right now.

611
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Speaker 2: And I think gen Z is, you know, waking up.

612
00:30:36,577 --> 00:30:38,097
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be the ones to clean

613
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Speaker 2: this up. And I've seen a lot of I've had

614
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Speaker 2: a lot of young young women and men on my

615
00:30:43,177 --> 00:30:45,577
Speaker 2: show before, not just on this current podcast, but when

616
00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:48,137
Speaker 2: I hosted a show at riv Real America's Voice. I

617
00:30:48,217 --> 00:30:49,457
Speaker 2: used to have a lot of young kids on the

618
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Speaker 2: show because it gave me hope, and it gave the

619
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Speaker 2: audience hope. And I heard a lot. I got a

620
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Speaker 2: lot of emails from people saying, you know, I'm really

621
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Speaker 2: glad that you're giving a voice to these you know,

622
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Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen year old kids, these patriots that actually have

623
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Speaker 2: a good vision for this country. And I think they're

624
00:31:02,857 --> 00:31:04,937
Speaker 2: and I actually I think there's statistics to back this

625
00:31:05,057 --> 00:31:09,297
Speaker 2: up where gen Z conservatives are more conservative than millennial conservatives,

626
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Speaker 2: and I think histories of pendulum, so that may not

627
00:31:12,257 --> 00:31:15,137
Speaker 2: stay the case as generations go on, but I know

628
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Speaker 2: that we need a generation that is truly conservative, truly

629
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Speaker 2: stays true to their values in order to clean them

630
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Speaker 2: up the mess that I think millennial is largely created.

631
00:31:23,377 --> 00:31:25,857
Speaker 2: And Baby boomers of course too. So yeah, I hope

632
00:31:25,897 --> 00:31:27,457
Speaker 2: that I think that they give me a lot of

633
00:31:27,497 --> 00:31:29,777
Speaker 2: hope when I see them stand up and get active.

634
00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:32,137
Speaker 2: I mean, they're getting involved a lot younger than I did,

635
00:31:32,177 --> 00:31:35,137
Speaker 2: so I mean, I think that's really refreshing to hear

636
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:36,177
Speaker 2: them talk about.

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Speaker 1: That, and it parise everybody host of wrong think you

638
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Speaker 1: should all check out. Yeah, Anna, thanks so much for

639
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Speaker 1: making the time great to be here with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me on