1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: is powered by I Do say I'm excited about this one. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: So this Takeaways Conversation. This is an audio only podcast 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: where we talk about some of the conversations we've had 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: in our interviews of the Andie Martinez in Real Life podcast. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: We are talking my Mike Tyson interview. Mike Tyson maybe 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting people walking the earth. At 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: one point, he was one of the most dangerous people 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: walking his earth too. He still might be. That's so fascinating. 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Did you sit across to him and he's like, he's 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: so sweet and amazing, but also there's there's always this 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: little thing where you're like, don't say nothing. Nobody's saying 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: nothing crazy to Mike. Please. And I also feel this, 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: And maybe this is just me and my nature. I 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: almost want to protect him. I feel like because I 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: I see his he tries so hard and he's found 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: a way to get through life even with his troubles 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: and his trauma and all that stuff. And he's made 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: a good life for himself and he's but he could 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: be triggered at any point. So I I root for him, 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: and I and I'm happy to see where he has it, 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and I love his wife. Shout out to Kiki. I'm 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: if she would let me. I want to interview her 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: because I find Kiki equally as fascinating as Mike. A 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of people might not know Kiki was the one 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Kiki wrote that UM one man show that he did, 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: and she's like his biggest cheerleader, his biggest confidante. She really, 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying anything Mike wouldn't tell you himself. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: She like runs the show and uh, and she's just 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: a little powerhouse and she's not interested in being interviewed. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Otherwise I would force her to be on the show. Um, 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: but we love Kiki, so shout out to her. We're 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Dr Mariel Bouquet, she was on the 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: show before she joined this for the Usher conversation. She's 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna come back to talk about Mike's ray because I 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: really thought it was interesting on this episode where he 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: talked about being able to see rage on his brain scan. Um, 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because he said a lot of boxers also 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: have this like they have they're prone to dementia because 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: they've been hit so many times in the head. But 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: because Mike wasn't hit that many times people not have 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: dementia yet he has rage. But another thing, another takeaway 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: that I took from this episode. I took a lot 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: away from the episode. But another thing I took away 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: was a moment where he talks about Joe Button and 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I talked about this a little bit too. Sometimes when 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: you meet people in the street, maybe you I don't know, 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Britney's here with me my show producer, by the way, 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and m ecs here on my radio show producer. Um, 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: have you ever met somebody in the street where you 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: think maybe they could have been like an angel or 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: or somebody testing you for sure? Me and Mike talked. 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: So Mike and I talked about this in this episode 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: where he said when he gives money to a homeless 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: person in the street, he thinks that who who was that? 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: That could have been an angel? Uh? I thought I 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: only thought those type of things, but clearly not clearly 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: mad people think this. Joe Button said the same thing, 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and Mike just said the same thing. So I was 60 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: thinking about that episode, that part of the episode with Mike, 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: and then how about I went out a couple of 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: days later. This is this is the story I was 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, my boy, telling you something crazy happened 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: last night, and I thought about Mike. This is what 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: I love takeaways, because when you have good conversation with people, 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: it really does sit with you. It really does stay 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: in your life, like if somebody says something that you 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: feel inside your spirit or your heart. You go about 69 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: your life, of course, but every now and then those 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: words they come back and they sit with you. And 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: that's what I hope for in these conversations. And this 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: is why we do takeaways to share what ours are. Anyway, 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: I say all that to say, I was outside having 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: dinner the other night with a friend who was in town. 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: It was late around around they and I having dinner. 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: We go to the parking lot. Um around as your partner, 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: my boom for the people that don't know, he's my boo. 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: We went together a very long time. We were meeting 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: one of his friends and we had a great night 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: and we were it was late. We were going to 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the parking lot to get his car. Um we go 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: to the door because it's it's late. The gates closed 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: and there's like a bell. So we go to the 84 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: door and some lady pops up out of nowhere. It's 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: a little blonde lady and she's like, I didn't think. 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know where she came from, by the way, 87 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: because there was nobody on the street notice. And she 88 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't think this gate was open. I 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: was going to walk around to the other side. I 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: didn't know. And he was like, yeah, you gotta press 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: the button. So he pressed the button, so we all 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: go in. Now Um, while he's paying for his ticket, 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: I start small talking with the lady and she's very sweet. 94 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: She lives in South Jersey. She was having she was 95 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: having drinks at Noble with her friends in town and 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. So she was sweet around. 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: They realized I was chatting with her, and he tried. 98 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: He did a nice gesture and he said, give me 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: a parking ticket. He's I'm gonna pay for your Yeah. 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: She was like no, no, no, absolutely not. I was like, 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: it's okay. He's he does okay for himself, but it's 102 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a holiday's happy holidays. It was nice meeting. You pay 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: it forward, pay somebody else's if you must. You know, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: if you must do something, pay it forward. And she 105 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: was like, um, okay, okay, but she was so touched 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: by just somebody paying her parking ticket. It was a 107 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: little it was like too much almost like she was 108 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: like so like what, oh my god, like she I 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: can't explain it, like it meant so much to her 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: and I couldn't. I was like, I know, it's a 111 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: nice gesture, but it's not. He didn't save your life. 112 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: He's not you know what I mean. It was like 113 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: she was like over and then um, she says, so around. 114 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: They goes to the car. He's opening the trunk and 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: she says to me, can I give you guys a hug? 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Now she's a stranger. We just met her in the street. 117 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: It's a little touchy field. I'm like, okay, I give 118 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I gave her like a little soft stranger hug, you know, 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the little like pat pat on the shoulder. And she 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: was like, she goes, I just feel like my husband 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: told you guys to do something nice for me. Oh 122 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I cry right now. Oh gosh. She says, I lost 123 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: my husband two weeks ago. I know, Wow, that's a lot. 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I know, but she starts crying. I'm almost crying, but 125 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of looking at her like an awe 126 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: because she there was something about the way she delivered, 127 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: and she's like, I feel like my husband told told 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: you guys to do something nice for me because he 129 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: knew I needed it. Around it was like, what just happened? 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: So now he's getting choked up, I'm getting choked up. 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Then we really hug her. Now we have Now we're 132 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: like in the parking lot, really hugging her. And I 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I'm so sorry. I was like, 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: are you okay? Are you driving home? She's like I'll 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: be fine. I'm I'm met my son, and I'm you know, 136 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: I'll be okay. And she and she's got you know her, 137 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: she's got a very nice wedding ring on, and she's 138 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: got two adult kids, so she clearly been married a 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: long time. UM anyway, so she got in the car 140 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, are you sure? So she gets 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: in the car and me and around. They get in 142 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: the car and he goes what was that? I said, 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know where he goes. Do you think she 144 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: was an angel or something? I don't know, but whatever 145 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: she was, I felt her very deeply. It wasn't like 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: just the stranger going through something like we felt her 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: very deeply, and it checked both of us because we 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: had been complaining about something that didn't matter, and we 149 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: were both like, you never know what people are, what 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: type of pain people are walking around with, You never 151 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: know what people are going through. You do a kind gesture, 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you just take a moment, and and I don't know. 153 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: And then then at that moment, I was I remember 154 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Mike and me and Mike talking about how like, you 155 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: never know when somebody needs. They don't have to be 156 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: an angel or not. They could just be a person 157 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: in need. They could just be a person in pain. 158 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes if you just do something nice to somebody, 159 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: you just don't know what you wind up even getting 160 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: back from it. So it was, I don't know, it 161 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: was a super deeper. It just happened like two nights ago, 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: and we woke up the next day and we were like, okay, 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: first name Basis. She's from South Jersey. But she was 164 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: probably thinking that you guys were an angel for her, yes, 165 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: who knows, who knows? But also we you know, we 166 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: all have things going on in our lives. Us included 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: like we'd been stressed out about something else, and then 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: that moment we both were checked like she checked us. 169 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: She literally checked us. She checked our spirit fast, and 170 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: so then you have to thank It's almost like thank 171 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: you for that, even though she was saying thank you 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: for doing a nice gessure, but it's like thank you 173 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: for checking us, which which made us think was she 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: maybe could have been an angel or not. I don't 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: know who knows right anyway, Oh, I forgot a part 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: of the story. But she said she had come out. 177 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: This is why round they thought she wasn't real. They 178 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: thought she was like a number. When we saw her 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: come out of nowhere? Are you talking about that? Nobody? 180 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: We don't right there? After hours, it's not a busy, 181 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: nobody's there, nobody lives. There is nobody there. No, it's late. 182 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know if noble is still open um. 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: And she popped about of nowhere number one, and she said, 184 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I saw you guys coming out of the hotel, and 185 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: you guys look so happy. Oh she was, I noticed you. Yes, 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: it's not normal. And then she just popped about of nowhere. 187 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of nuts. She said she was a noble. 188 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Where her girls having drinks? And where were her girls? 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why would they leave her. She just 190 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: lost her husband. The poor thing. Where are they? I was. 191 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: If I'm not with my girls and she just lost 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm taking her to the parking lot. Yeah. Unless the 193 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: woman is that some type of angel or spirit or something. 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that'd be from South Jersey. If you 195 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: are out there, show yourself to me. She's an angel. 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: So she's not going to show her. So that was 197 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: my little has nothing to do with the Mike Tyson conversation. 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: But the point of that is like, sometimes you say 199 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: something or you can share something that really connects with somebody. 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: And I did think of the conversation with Mike and 201 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: about how you never know like what's going on with 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: people around you and stuff like that, and so I 203 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: thought of him after that little moment. Another thing that 204 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: stayed with me to change gears for a second about 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: this episode is like I talked about that rage that 206 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: he walks around with. So I wanted to share a 207 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: little bit of that conversation. And we have our doctor backed, 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: our favorite Dominican doctor, Dr Mariel Bouquet, psychologist and trauma expert, 209 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: so we started to be here with you. Um so yeah, 210 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: so in this episode, you know, he talks a lot 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: about his rage and maybe you knew about this, doc, 212 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: but I for for sure didn't know that on his 213 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: brain scan you could actually see his rage um, which 214 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: I would have Is that normal? Is that, like a 215 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: normal brain you could normally see people's ray age or 216 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: is that because he has so much of it? Well, 217 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: in brain stance, you can actually see what prominent emotions 218 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: people tend to have. Right, So, what it basically does 219 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: is that it detects the blood flow of the brain, 220 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: and so whenever you experience a certain emotion, the blood 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: blows to the emotion centers of the brain. And that's 222 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: what they probably saw. And you know it is for 223 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: many of us, especially if you come from a background 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: that you know Mike came from, like it can be 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: very common for us to experience chronic stress, chronic trauma, 226 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: chronic anger, and chronic grade. So I'm glad that he 227 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: got that point of insight because from there there's something 228 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: that he can do about it, because you can heal 229 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: chronic anger and rage. You don't just have to stay there. 230 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: You can heal it. Because to me, I thought interesting 231 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: that he because he talks about when he was young 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: and he had all that rage when he was young 233 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: and when he was fighting, But the fact that he 234 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: has it now as a man who's been married for 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: thirteen years and he you know, he is you know, 236 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: he experiments with mushrooms and all types of weed, and 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: he and he meditates, and he has found ways to 238 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: kind of live his life and manage his rage. But 239 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it still shows up so significantly on 240 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: his brain scan, I don't know. I just it made 241 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: me wonder if that's just something he has to live 242 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: with forever, forever, that it just sits there. No, it 243 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be. I mean. That's the thing is 244 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: that for many of us, whenever we hear something like that, 245 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, well, that's just who I am, right, 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Like that's the general go to because especially when you 247 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: think the brain, you think, oh, well, that's how my 248 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: brain is. You don't think that you can actually change 249 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: your brain, which you can. There is this thing called 250 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: neural classicity, which is where the brain and the nervous 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: system can actually be transformed and they can grow, and 252 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: you can actually become less angry and become more of 253 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: the other emotions that you would like to experience, joy, calm, 254 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: all the things. Wow, I think he's done a tremendous 255 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: job at managing considering that he had whatever, however much 256 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: was showing the significant amount that he even says he 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: carries the rage around that he has managed, like I said, 258 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: to have a you know, a long relationship, be married, 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: have all this tender kind of love for his kids. 260 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think it's fascinating that he's 261 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: been able to manage manage that. What what is the 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: what is the best advice though to somebody who is 263 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: because I did see a lot in the comments people 264 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: resonated to that, and especially when I posted that clip, 265 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: I saw people say, I feel this, I feel angry, Like, 266 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: what is the number one thing to go to things 267 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: somebody who's suffering, or somebody in your family is suffering 268 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: from rage or anger right now, what is the first 269 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: thing you recommend that they try? Well, of course, I'm 270 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: gonna recommend therapy, right there's a bit of a bias there, 271 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: and I understand that we don't all have access to therapy, 272 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: so that's that can't be the general go through for everybody. 273 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: But we did talk about meditation as a really powerful 274 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: healing store, and meditation doesn't have to be like sitting 275 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: down and meditating and you know, just watching your thoughts 276 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: float by. People can actually through walking meditations. People can 277 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: do sound bath meditations, which is where like micro vibrations 278 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: actually help you to feel instantly relaxed. There's so many 279 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: versions of how you can actually engage in meditations to 280 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: restructure your brain, to restructure the ways that you respond 281 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: to stress, and then restructure the ways that you respond 282 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: to anger. And you can do that literally right now. 283 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: M hm. And just like just walking how what is 284 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: walking meditation? How does that work? Well, you've got to 285 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: think about what tends to happen. Whenever we're in these 286 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: kinds of emotions like anger, we feel really frozen in it, 287 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: right like you're in it. And whenever you're getting up 288 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: and actually moving your body, you're releasing a lot of 289 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: the tension that's sorting your body. The things I understand 290 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: about emotions is that emotions are primarily a body based process. 291 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: It's not all in the mind in the ways that 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: we thought forever. It really is more so in the body. 293 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: It's in your brain, it's in your nervous system. So 294 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: when you get up and you start walking and you 295 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: start shaking off the tension, You're less likely to respond 296 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: out of anger. So move your body. So when I 297 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: get angry and I feel like I want to break something, 298 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that's not my emotion, that's my body telling me to relax. 299 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: That's literally every cell in your body trying to release 300 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: all that tension because it feels awful. H So if 301 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: you get upset, just say, hey baby, I'm gonna go 302 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: outside and take a walk. Imagine having all of that, 303 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: but then you're Mike Tyson. Pound everybody out. You gotta walk, 304 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: you gotta move, get out, dude. Do whatever. The moral 305 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of the story is, do whatever it takes. If Mike 306 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: Tyson could find a way to have a pretty much 307 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: peaceful life at this point in his life after all 308 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: of the insane trauma and anger and all the things 309 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: that he's been through, you know, it's possible for anyone. 310 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: So there's hope. There is hope. Thank you DR for 311 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: your time today so much for having me for a pleasure, 312 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for checking this out and listen. 313 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: If you haven't um checked out the Mike Tyson interview. 314 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: It is available to watch on my YouTube page, Andrew 315 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Martinez i O page and of course you can listen 316 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: to it. We're all podcasts are heard. Make sure you 317 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: subscribe so you don't miss anything. UM. Thank you again 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: to Mike Tyson for an incredible conversation. We adore you 319 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: uh and we'll see you next time.