1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the new member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,359 Speaker 2: Mike Raybold. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 9 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 10 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,799 Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. Good to 11 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:55,679 Speaker 3: be home, Good to see you, guys. 12 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: The new head coach of the New England Patriots already 14 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:07,719 Speaker 2: geared up in what are we calling this? Like a 15 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 2: half half quarter zip half hoot. We had a guy 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,239 Speaker 2: here who had a particular style sense, game time attire. 17 00:01:17,559 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: You seem to lean toward the half zip vest. 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,159 Speaker 3: Love the quarters that, yeah, we'll cut the sleeves off 19 00:01:22,158 --> 00:01:28,799 Speaker 3: here later. Okay, they couldn't cover this guy. Okay, he 20 00:01:28,839 --> 00:01:30,599 Speaker 3: would get us down to the end zone, I going 21 00:01:30,598 --> 00:01:32,519 Speaker 3: and score, but during the field they couldn't cover. 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was when he started stealing his catches, though 23 00:01:38,639 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: in the end zone he wasn't happy about that. 24 00:01:40,759 --> 00:01:43,599 Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't too hard to steal from Christian. 25 00:01:46,999 --> 00:01:48,399 Speaker 2: How are you fantastic? 26 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:49,399 Speaker 3: Awesome? 27 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:50,839 Speaker 2: Great to be back in the middling? 28 00:01:51,039 --> 00:01:54,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean already. Uh, you know, Elliott and I've 29 00:01:54,039 --> 00:01:55,879 Speaker 3: been meeting here for a couple hours and just trying 30 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:58,399 Speaker 3: to go through the roster and you know, have a 31 00:01:58,399 --> 00:02:01,119 Speaker 3: lot of meetings and get through the staff and you know, 32 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 3: the support staff and everything that's critical and the scouts 33 00:02:03,639 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 3: and get to know them and see where they're going 34 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:06,799 Speaker 3: and how we can help and support them. 35 00:02:07,199 --> 00:02:09,599 Speaker 2: You want us to start easy or go to wherever 36 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:12,159 Speaker 2: you want to go. So on. On the topic of Elliott, 37 00:02:13,079 --> 00:02:15,279 Speaker 2: and this may not be the case, but it seemed 38 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:19,038 Speaker 2: like the case in Tennessee was that there became an 39 00:02:19,079 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: issue when it came to you earning full roster control 40 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:26,038 Speaker 2: and kind of wanting to be in that role in 41 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: addition to the head coach role. If that's act. 42 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: We didn't win enough games in Tennessee that I think 43 00:02:30,399 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 3: that's the problem. But no, that that's never been an issue. 44 00:02:35,478 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: But so are you comfortable? Are you comfortable with this arrangement? 45 00:02:40,038 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be here. And I 46 00:02:42,079 --> 00:02:45,439 Speaker 3: think that through the conversations and the interview process and 47 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:50,199 Speaker 3: the conversations over the weekend with Elliott and with with 48 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:52,999 Speaker 3: with Robert and Jonathan and just trying to put a 49 00:02:53,119 --> 00:02:56,078 Speaker 3: roster together in a program that to me, that's the 50 00:02:56,119 --> 00:02:57,879 Speaker 3: biggest thing. I want to try to put a program 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: around our coaches, our support staff, our personnel department, our players. 52 00:03:02,999 --> 00:03:05,479 Speaker 3: Most especially that people want to be a part of 53 00:03:05,559 --> 00:03:08,479 Speaker 3: that they're proud of that, they invest time and energy, 54 00:03:08,519 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: and we can we can start to see results, you know, 55 00:03:12,079 --> 00:03:14,198 Speaker 3: beginning here in the off season when we don't have 56 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:16,319 Speaker 3: the players, and then when we have the players in April, 57 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 3: that these guys are like, Okay, I feel like what 58 00:03:18,279 --> 00:03:20,719 Speaker 3: we're doing is going to help me. We don't want 59 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: to waste anybody's time, especially the players time. So this 60 00:03:23,959 --> 00:03:25,918 Speaker 3: is all very important to me, and it's all very 61 00:03:25,959 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: calculated after having done it, you know, for six years 62 00:03:29,359 --> 00:03:30,319 Speaker 3: in Tennessee. 63 00:03:30,559 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: Mike, when you look at coaching, you've been in this 64 00:03:33,119 --> 00:03:35,999 Speaker 4: business a long time. The most important position, it looks 65 00:03:35,999 --> 00:03:39,679 Speaker 4: like you have COVID in Drake May. How important is 66 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:43,759 Speaker 4: it now for you guys? To make sure you put 67 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:46,719 Speaker 4: the right pieces around them, especially in free agency where 68 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:49,439 Speaker 4: it looks like you guys have some money. And you know, 69 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 4: when we think about that, elite wide receivers have done 70 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,799 Speaker 4: such a great job. You look at your former player 71 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:57,799 Speaker 4: in aj Brown and what that means. What's the kind 72 00:03:57,839 --> 00:04:00,559 Speaker 4: of thought process going in that direction? 73 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:01,239 Speaker 2: Moving forward? 74 00:04:01,279 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 3: Well, again, we talked about this passer rating efficiency in 75 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:07,039 Speaker 3: which we throw the football, right, you don't have to 76 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:09,879 Speaker 3: throw it fifty times, you know. I think an interesting 77 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:13,079 Speaker 3: stat was, I think the passes quarterbacks that are tech 78 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: more than fifty passes a game have won twenty two 79 00:04:16,678 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: percent of their games other than Tom Brady, so he's 80 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:22,678 Speaker 3: won like seventy percent of the games that he's had 81 00:04:22,719 --> 00:04:24,639 Speaker 3: to throw for more than forty five times or something. 82 00:04:24,678 --> 00:04:27,558 Speaker 3: So if you don't have Tom Brady, then you probably 83 00:04:27,558 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: shouldn't throw at forty five or fifty times a game. 84 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:31,959 Speaker 3: That's not the point here. The point is that when 85 00:04:31,999 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 3: we throw it, which will be as many times as 86 00:04:34,678 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 3: we need to, that you want to be efficient, right 87 00:04:37,239 --> 00:04:39,558 Speaker 3: that you want to have great completion percentage, which then 88 00:04:39,678 --> 00:04:42,998 Speaker 3: leads to receivers. Going back to the question about receivers, 89 00:04:43,359 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: Receivers that have great catch radious right, that can create 90 00:04:46,318 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: separation that are good against contested catches, right, because when 91 00:04:50,359 --> 00:04:53,959 Speaker 3: you're contested and PBUs go up in the air, then 92 00:04:53,999 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: they get intercepted, right, And then now that leads to turnovers, 93 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: which then changes field position and all these things. So 94 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: we have to focus on the line because I think 95 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:04,398 Speaker 3: that the best teams right now in the National Football 96 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:06,758 Speaker 3: League are the ones that still have the best offensive lines, 97 00:05:07,159 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 3: that are changing line of scrimmage, protecting the passer, have 98 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: versatility in a run game, can run a zone scheme, 99 00:05:14,239 --> 00:05:16,199 Speaker 3: can run a gap scheme, because I don't think he 100 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,558 Speaker 3: can just major and just say in zone, right, because 101 00:05:19,558 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: teams that penetrate and disrupt the zone play, you've got 102 00:05:22,719 --> 00:05:25,519 Speaker 3: to be able to find ways to double and move 103 00:05:25,558 --> 00:05:28,678 Speaker 3: gaps and change gaps and force them to move positions. 104 00:05:29,239 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: So with that being said said, you know, I want 105 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:35,318 Speaker 3: to focus on some of those areas offensive line. We'll 106 00:05:35,438 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: take a look and see what skill we have here 107 00:05:37,359 --> 00:05:39,959 Speaker 3: at receiver and give everybody a new opportunity to kind 108 00:05:39,958 --> 00:05:43,639 Speaker 3: of come in. It's a clean slate, decide who wants 109 00:05:43,678 --> 00:05:46,558 Speaker 3: to be here by their actions, and then they continue 110 00:05:46,599 --> 00:05:47,638 Speaker 3: to evaluate. 111 00:05:47,359 --> 00:05:49,998 Speaker 2: You brought up Tom Brady. Was the reporting accurate that 112 00:05:50,039 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: he reached out and you said, nope, I'm already I'm 113 00:05:52,799 --> 00:05:53,238 Speaker 2: going to do it. 114 00:05:53,318 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that was the case. Tom 115 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:58,118 Speaker 3: and I had had many discussions. I think you know 116 00:05:59,198 --> 00:06:02,519 Speaker 3: we're friends, we're teammates, we're friends. We've continued to talk 117 00:06:02,558 --> 00:06:06,678 Speaker 3: throughout my career and coaching his career as he played, 118 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 3: and now his new transition. So you know, we we've 119 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,399 Speaker 3: talked and we'll continue to talk. But you know, this 120 00:06:13,479 --> 00:06:15,519 Speaker 3: is the place where I wanted to be, and this 121 00:06:15,558 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: is the place that I'm at. 122 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: What do you have been a good boss? I mean managed? 123 00:06:20,239 --> 00:06:21,398 Speaker 2: What's his management style? 124 00:06:21,719 --> 00:06:24,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't stick around long enough to. 125 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:27,118 Speaker 2: Find out the conversation. Mike. 126 00:06:27,159 --> 00:06:29,198 Speaker 5: I love what you said about culture yesterday and how 127 00:06:29,239 --> 00:06:32,118 Speaker 5: building a culture it's important when you're at your lowest. 128 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:35,319 Speaker 5: So when you look at this team in particular, theoretically, 129 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: how long will it take to build back a culture. 130 00:06:37,799 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: Well, that's all based on the players and you know 131 00:06:39,879 --> 00:06:42,759 Speaker 3: that that are willing to invest and change behavior if 132 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:45,638 Speaker 3: it's needed to be changed, and how quickly they hold 133 00:06:45,678 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: each other accountable, how close we become. You know, I 134 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: think We're going to spend a lot of time and 135 00:06:52,519 --> 00:06:58,199 Speaker 3: being very you know, conscious of the relationships and the building, 136 00:06:58,438 --> 00:07:00,759 Speaker 3: you know, And I'm new here and haven't been here 137 00:07:00,799 --> 00:07:03,439 Speaker 3: since two thousand and eight, and so I want to 138 00:07:03,438 --> 00:07:06,518 Speaker 3: make sure that the how can I help the support staff? 139 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,238 Speaker 3: But when the players come in, they have to know 140 00:07:09,318 --> 00:07:11,599 Speaker 3: each other. The coaches have to know the players. There 141 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:14,479 Speaker 3: has to be a relationship there that's you know, built 142 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:17,519 Speaker 3: on trust and built on communication and trying to give 143 00:07:17,559 --> 00:07:20,759 Speaker 3: the players exactly what they need. So I hate to 144 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 3: put a timeline on it because I don't know. That 145 00:07:22,719 --> 00:07:25,599 Speaker 3: could happen quicker that could happen. You know, it may 146 00:07:25,719 --> 00:07:27,439 Speaker 3: go into training camp and you need to go through 147 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,319 Speaker 3: training camp. Training camps essential, you know, to build the 148 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:34,199 Speaker 3: team and going through practice and staying you know, with 149 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:36,999 Speaker 3: each other for a lot of hours. And sometimes you 150 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:39,839 Speaker 3: get in arguments in training camps. Sometimes there's fights, sometimes 151 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,799 Speaker 3: there's you know, things that happen, but you're all doing 152 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 3: it just to continue to build a team. 153 00:07:44,999 --> 00:07:48,479 Speaker 5: Sorry, do you find that being a coach and seeing 154 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 5: from your time playing to Tennessee to now, there's been 155 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:53,879 Speaker 5: a change in the way in which the player is 156 00:07:54,078 --> 00:07:57,079 Speaker 5: or acts because we talk about the millennial player right 157 00:07:57,078 --> 00:07:58,879 Speaker 5: now and how different that is. Have you had to 158 00:07:58,919 --> 00:08:01,879 Speaker 5: adjust your coaching style to make that to make that better? 159 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:05,359 Speaker 3: Well, I just have to be conscious of the relationship 160 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:08,439 Speaker 3: and the connection of the players are coming in. You 161 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:11,079 Speaker 3: know what they need each day from me to be successful. 162 00:08:11,119 --> 00:08:14,959 Speaker 3: So you know, Jermaine may need one personality and one style, 163 00:08:16,039 --> 00:08:18,039 Speaker 3: Greg may need something else. And I have to do 164 00:08:18,078 --> 00:08:20,398 Speaker 3: a great job of understanding what each one of those 165 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 3: players needs, how they respond best. 166 00:08:23,479 --> 00:08:24,439 Speaker 2: I like to be coddled. 167 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 3: Yes, that didn't surprise me one bit. I've done that 168 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:32,039 Speaker 3: for twenty years. 169 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:35,639 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't have to. I didn't have to coddle 170 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,718 Speaker 2: you when I was kicking your ass all over the golf. 171 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:39,239 Speaker 2: That is not good, that is. 172 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:43,078 Speaker 3: But I think that the system where we are getting 173 00:08:43,078 --> 00:08:45,919 Speaker 3: a different player, and whether it's the millennial or whether 174 00:08:45,958 --> 00:08:50,958 Speaker 3: it's specifically the college structure right now which allows for transfer, 175 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:54,639 Speaker 3: which again they're eighteen, some of them make a decision 176 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,639 Speaker 3: that they wish they could have over and I like 177 00:08:57,919 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: some of the idea of being able to go to 178 00:08:59,719 --> 00:09:03,479 Speaker 3: another college. But there's an nil, there's being they're being compensated, 179 00:09:03,959 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: and so I think that they come to our league, 180 00:09:06,359 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: and not every one of them, but some of them. 181 00:09:09,079 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: You're tat to change some behavior, and we want to 182 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,519 Speaker 3: remove entitlement from our program. We might to make sure 183 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: that that we're not entitling players to do something and 184 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:20,399 Speaker 3: earn something by not having worked. 185 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,999 Speaker 2: For Wiggy and ty Law on this show. Tye is 186 00:09:22,999 --> 00:09:24,999 Speaker 2: going to be on at nine. Even think of Itch 187 00:09:25,079 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: talk about the difference that there was in this locker 188 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:34,039 Speaker 2: room now and then with guys holding other guys accountable. 189 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:37,239 Speaker 3: Is that was that your Well, that was my experience here, 190 00:09:37,959 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: but that that's not like that every year. That's hard 191 00:09:40,319 --> 00:09:45,639 Speaker 3: to create. That's a unique relationship that that is between 192 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,159 Speaker 3: the players. And again I have to try to and 193 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: along with Elliott and our personnel department is bringing those 194 00:09:52,239 --> 00:09:56,039 Speaker 3: types of players that will do that. And again if 195 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: they they don't, then that's where I have to step 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,799 Speaker 3: in and protect the team. 197 00:09:59,919 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: It's a little bit easier when you got a guy 198 00:10:01,439 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: like Willie Mack walking. 199 00:10:02,319 --> 00:10:04,279 Speaker 2: Around the right. 200 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: Man, I know my role. 201 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:13,838 Speaker 6: I think that's great because there I watched you and 202 00:10:13,959 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 6: Teddy were on the Man in the Arena from years 203 00:10:16,719 --> 00:10:19,958 Speaker 6: ago talking about that third Super Bowl championship season, and 204 00:10:20,359 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 6: I thought it was so well done on how you 205 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 6: and Teddy were discussing that you were the ones that 206 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:28,639 Speaker 6: created the culture that some referred to as the Patriot 207 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 6: Way or whatever, where you held each other accountable. It 208 00:10:31,359 --> 00:10:35,039 Speaker 6: wasn't about doing what was necessary. It was about doing 209 00:10:35,119 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 6: everything you could and demanding that from the people that 210 00:10:38,239 --> 00:10:40,519 Speaker 6: you saw walk into their car at seven thirty or whatever. 211 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just wanted to be able to just to 212 00:10:42,599 --> 00:10:46,639 Speaker 3: know that somebody else was as invested as you were personally, 213 00:10:46,839 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: but also was willing to put the team first and 214 00:10:50,319 --> 00:10:52,879 Speaker 3: make a decision that was maybe better for somebody else 215 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:57,119 Speaker 3: than it was for your own personal situation. And then 216 00:10:57,159 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: as far as being on time, study and learning, how 217 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 3: hard you played, how hard you you know, willing to 218 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:05,799 Speaker 3: communicate on a practice field, how well you came back 219 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 3: in shape, Like, we don't have a whole lot of time, 220 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: you know, with the with the rules that we have 221 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: and the you know, the off season, so it's critical 222 00:11:14,239 --> 00:11:17,039 Speaker 3: that they come back in shape and that's a commitment 223 00:11:17,079 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 3: that they make. We don't have time to probably get 224 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: back in shape once April starts, Like if we're not 225 00:11:21,999 --> 00:11:26,119 Speaker 3: ready to go come April, you know, there'll be some 226 00:11:26,199 --> 00:11:26,879 Speaker 3: catching up to do. 227 00:11:27,399 --> 00:11:29,999 Speaker 2: Mike Rabel is our guest at Jellette Stadium for the 228 00:11:30,119 --> 00:11:32,279 Speaker 2: first time as the head coach of the New England Patriots. 229 00:11:32,319 --> 00:11:34,279 Speaker 2: I have been demanding that you be hired for this 230 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: job for quite some time. Those who were opposed to 231 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:43,119 Speaker 2: it would argue that you're a run first and run 232 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:44,159 Speaker 2: only guy. 233 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 3: Now, our best player was our running back. What I said, 234 00:11:47,599 --> 00:11:50,119 Speaker 3: as you can see, as you can see in Baltimore, 235 00:11:51,399 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: and you know, so we tried to structure the you know, 236 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: the offense. I mean, we try to build the offense 237 00:11:57,999 --> 00:11:59,919 Speaker 3: around what we felt like was our best player and 238 00:11:59,959 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: what was our strength. And you know, when we did 239 00:12:02,479 --> 00:12:09,239 Speaker 3: have pieces around Derek that we felt comfortable with, you know, 240 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,999 Speaker 3: we we threw it just as successfully as we ran it, 241 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 3: and we were good in the red zone. I felt 242 00:12:13,599 --> 00:12:17,639 Speaker 3: like we were creative. But that you know that you 243 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:20,279 Speaker 3: base whatever system and scheme that you have. 244 00:12:20,199 --> 00:12:21,359 Speaker 2: On the players that you have. 245 00:12:21,479 --> 00:12:24,279 Speaker 3: So I do think there's a lot of versatility in 246 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,279 Speaker 3: not only myself, but hopefully that the coaches that we hire. 247 00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:29,919 Speaker 2: And seems like a different situation here when you look 248 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:31,279 Speaker 2: at what Drake make him. 249 00:12:31,199 --> 00:12:34,078 Speaker 3: Sure and again, we we want to throw it as 250 00:12:34,119 --> 00:12:39,759 Speaker 3: much as we can remain efficient and explosive. You know, 251 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: one again, as many players as we can that are 252 00:12:43,439 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 3: tough to tackle, that that you don't have to throw 253 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:48,919 Speaker 3: the ball fifty yards downfield to create an explosive play. 254 00:12:49,119 --> 00:12:51,479 Speaker 3: Now we'll have that ability. But you see around the 255 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,879 Speaker 3: league some guys, you know, you flip it out there 256 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 3: and they're a good catch and run guy, and they're 257 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:59,359 Speaker 3: hard to tackle. And you know, you force defenses to tackle, 258 00:12:59,439 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: you force secondary players to tackle. We want good guys 259 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: that are good in space. And again, then how skilled 260 00:13:07,319 --> 00:13:09,879 Speaker 3: are we upfront, how physical we are up front? But 261 00:13:09,999 --> 00:13:13,759 Speaker 3: there's still something to being able to run the football 262 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 3: when you have to in short yardage situations around the 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,879 Speaker 3: goal line, you know, to be able to control the 264 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: pace of the game late in the game, you know, 265 00:13:20,719 --> 00:13:23,479 Speaker 3: when you play with the lead. These games, every year 266 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,759 Speaker 3: they get closer and closer, just how the league wants it, right, 267 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:28,639 Speaker 3: So everybody watches till the end, the end of the 268 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,078 Speaker 3: game and hopefully every but he has a shot. And 269 00:13:31,439 --> 00:13:34,799 Speaker 3: how critical we can execute in the four minute two 270 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: minute situations and so there is going to be an 271 00:13:37,479 --> 00:13:39,999 Speaker 3: element that our physicality is going to have to play 272 00:13:39,999 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 3: in and running the football is going to be part 273 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:43,958 Speaker 3: of it, but it won't be the entire thing we do. 274 00:13:44,119 --> 00:13:44,359 Speaker 2: Mike. 275 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:48,159 Speaker 4: One of the things that you know coming up in 276 00:13:48,199 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: my career that I rarely respected him from coaches, obviously 277 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 4: having Pastsels and Belichick, was transparency and putting your putting 278 00:13:59,599 --> 00:14:02,639 Speaker 4: the team above yourself. Based on a lot of your 279 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 4: formal players, they they kind of they reiterate those same 280 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: words about the respect level for a coach that makes 281 00:14:10,439 --> 00:14:13,879 Speaker 4: sure every player understands their role and its team first. 282 00:14:14,359 --> 00:14:17,639 Speaker 4: How do you make sure that you continue that coming 283 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,439 Speaker 4: to a team that might have had some issues and 284 00:14:20,479 --> 00:14:24,919 Speaker 4: making sure that message is received loud and clear. 285 00:14:25,119 --> 00:14:28,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the communication by me is critical that it 286 00:14:29,079 --> 00:14:33,279 Speaker 3: is clear, it's clean, it's concise, and it's direct. Like 287 00:14:33,359 --> 00:14:37,159 Speaker 3: you said, the transparency. I'm always going to be honest 288 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:40,399 Speaker 3: with the player. They may disagree, but I'm also going 289 00:14:40,479 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 3: to listen to them. I'm going to listen with the 290 00:14:42,519 --> 00:14:45,159 Speaker 3: intent to understand them and not listen with the intent 291 00:14:45,239 --> 00:14:47,959 Speaker 3: to respond. But I'm also going to treat them the 292 00:14:47,959 --> 00:14:50,079 Speaker 3: same way they treat the team, and if they treat 293 00:14:50,119 --> 00:14:52,519 Speaker 3: the team really well, I'll be willing to listen to 294 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:55,519 Speaker 3: anything that they have to say. Any suggestions if they 295 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:57,599 Speaker 3: don't treat the team very well. If they don't, you know, 296 00:14:57,599 --> 00:14:59,999 Speaker 3: if they're not on time, or they're not in shape, 297 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:02,879 Speaker 3: or they don't play hard, or they don't study, or 298 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:07,039 Speaker 3: they're disrespectful to somebody in a support staff. Hopefully they're 299 00:15:07,079 --> 00:15:09,559 Speaker 3: not here long, but if they are, I don't have 300 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:12,119 Speaker 3: much to say to them, or I don't not really 301 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:14,959 Speaker 3: going to take their input. So, like you mentioned, I 302 00:15:14,999 --> 00:15:18,359 Speaker 3: think the biggest thing is that average players want to 303 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:20,079 Speaker 3: be left alone. They want to come in, they want 304 00:15:20,119 --> 00:15:21,719 Speaker 3: to pick up their check, they want to eat for 305 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:24,879 Speaker 3: free and go home. Good players want to be coached, 306 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:26,879 Speaker 3: and great players want to be told the truth. And 307 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:28,959 Speaker 3: every great player that I've been able to coach in 308 00:15:28,999 --> 00:15:31,679 Speaker 3: the past six years has always come and said, what 309 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:33,479 Speaker 3: do I need to do to be better? What do 310 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:35,879 Speaker 3: I need to do to be great? And you tell 311 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:38,759 Speaker 3: them and then they they seek the truth, and then 312 00:15:38,799 --> 00:15:40,639 Speaker 3: their job is to then handle the truth. 313 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:43,279 Speaker 2: What's your timeline on hiring coordinators? 314 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:45,999 Speaker 3: No timeline, the same thing we talked about yesterday. We're 315 00:15:45,999 --> 00:15:49,639 Speaker 3: not gonna deal with timelines with injuries or you know, 316 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:51,959 Speaker 3: we're not gonna deal with the hiring a staff. And 317 00:15:51,999 --> 00:15:54,759 Speaker 3: when that's going to be complete. It's a long process. 318 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,559 Speaker 3: It's one that you know will go out a few weeks. 319 00:15:58,599 --> 00:16:02,239 Speaker 3: It could go out longer than that. Right, It's always 320 00:16:02,319 --> 00:16:04,679 Speaker 3: delicate when you have teams that are continuing to play 321 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:08,559 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, potentially the movement that could occur with 322 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:12,999 Speaker 3: coaches on other staffs and related to their contracts. So 323 00:16:13,079 --> 00:16:15,319 Speaker 3: that's just not as cut and dry as Hey, these 324 00:16:15,359 --> 00:16:18,079 Speaker 3: guys are going to walk in tomorrow and we're going 325 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:19,159 Speaker 3: to have a full staff. 326 00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:26,719 Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski said, your first call should be to Josh McDaniels. Yeah. 327 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna look at every possible candidate that 328 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 3: I feel like help us. And we're going to start 329 00:16:34,359 --> 00:16:37,759 Speaker 3: that process today, uh, at this afternoon and and and 330 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:41,519 Speaker 3: visit with some with some great coaches and uh and 331 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:45,279 Speaker 3: then we'll see where things go. And that's all. Yeah, 332 00:16:45,319 --> 00:16:47,399 Speaker 3: there's a lot. It's a long list. Yeah, there's a 333 00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:50,039 Speaker 3: long list. And I'll you know, I've had a relationship 334 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:52,999 Speaker 3: with Josh, and I've had relationships with with other offensive 335 00:16:52,999 --> 00:16:55,359 Speaker 3: coaches and defensive coaches that we're going to interview and 336 00:16:55,399 --> 00:16:56,159 Speaker 3: want to bring in here. 337 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:59,159 Speaker 5: How much pressure is there on the OC though, Wiggie 338 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:01,599 Speaker 5: brings up building a team around Drake, but making sure 339 00:17:01,599 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 5: that he doesn't have a revolving door of offensive coordinators 340 00:17:05,158 --> 00:17:06,198 Speaker 5: throughout his time here. 341 00:17:07,479 --> 00:17:09,638 Speaker 3: Well, I don't, I don't. I mean, this is uh, 342 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:15,438 Speaker 3: this is a production business. So I think pressure comes 343 00:17:15,479 --> 00:17:17,599 Speaker 3: with everyone that's a part of this thing, whether you're 344 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 3: a player or whether you're a coach, and I think 345 00:17:20,239 --> 00:17:23,799 Speaker 3: you have to embrace the the the challenge of just 346 00:17:23,879 --> 00:17:25,718 Speaker 3: getting it right. That's all we want to do is 347 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: we want to get it right. And if our players 348 00:17:27,638 --> 00:17:29,519 Speaker 3: can handle a lot, we're going to give them a lot, 349 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:31,559 Speaker 3: and they just need to get out there and get 350 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:33,958 Speaker 3: lined up and be able to snap the ball so 351 00:17:33,999 --> 00:17:36,799 Speaker 3: that we're you know, we're we're going to avoid self 352 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:40,278 Speaker 3: inflicted wounds and we don't want to have unforced airs. 353 00:17:41,718 --> 00:17:43,398 Speaker 3: But if we can handle a lot, and we can 354 00:17:43,438 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: move and we can shift, and we can motion, and 355 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,319 Speaker 3: we can go play on the football and you know, 356 00:17:47,638 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: try to apply some pressure defensively, then those are all 357 00:17:50,198 --> 00:17:51,759 Speaker 3: things that we'll be able to do. Then I've done 358 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: in the past with with multiple coordinators. 359 00:17:54,398 --> 00:17:56,158 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to add any pressure, but 360 00:17:56,279 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: you're you do, you probably won't be able, but you're here. 361 00:18:00,638 --> 00:18:03,278 Speaker 2: You're here to save us, like the entire region. Like 362 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:04,158 Speaker 2: are you aware? 363 00:18:05,478 --> 00:18:08,158 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think we're all aware of what our what 364 00:18:08,238 --> 00:18:10,279 Speaker 3: our job is here to do. And we have high 365 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 3: expectations and so do I. Yours aren't higher than mine. 366 00:18:13,238 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 6: I I just on that note, like you hire a 367 00:18:16,958 --> 00:18:19,319 Speaker 6: guy obviously the Jets. I'm you were rumored with every 368 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,398 Speaker 6: opening that you were going to potentially have an opportunity 369 00:18:22,438 --> 00:18:25,158 Speaker 6: to coach in the NFL for several teams. If you 370 00:18:25,198 --> 00:18:28,398 Speaker 6: could dial it, you know, to signify one thing why 371 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:31,999 Speaker 6: you chose to come back and coach this Patriots team? 372 00:18:31,999 --> 00:18:33,678 Speaker 3: What would it be? Well, I don't think there is 373 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: just one, but I just like I said, it just 374 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:40,518 Speaker 3: it's it's the right time, it's the right place with 375 00:18:40,638 --> 00:18:41,319 Speaker 3: the right people. 376 00:18:42,958 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: Were you this team? Wigi brought up money. This team 377 00:18:45,398 --> 00:18:48,519 Speaker 2: has over one hundred and thirty million dollars available salary 378 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: cap wise. 379 00:18:49,198 --> 00:18:51,158 Speaker 3: He's always talking about money. 380 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,638 Speaker 4: That's what happens when he'll make a lot when you play. 381 00:18:54,398 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: I think that you know from the outside one k 382 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,799 Speaker 2: I gotta wait till sixty five. 383 00:19:02,238 --> 00:19:04,678 Speaker 3: Book sixty five, ye failing. 384 00:19:04,918 --> 00:19:07,838 Speaker 2: If you're hiring Wiggy you missed this probably, But Wiggy 385 00:19:07,958 --> 00:19:11,079 Speaker 2: did was the head coach of the Brockton football team 386 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: for one year, trying to get back to the kids. 387 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:16,599 Speaker 2: Just one season. The boxes, Yeah, the boxes, the boxes, 388 00:19:16,879 --> 00:19:18,759 Speaker 2: just one year. But if you're hiring yeah, I mean, 389 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:24,599 Speaker 2: but were you able to in your discussions with. 390 00:19:24,678 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 3: Only for option routes you doing you ain't coaching blocking? 391 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:27,999 Speaker 3: I mean he. 392 00:19:27,999 --> 00:19:29,158 Speaker 2: Really blocks now with things. 393 00:19:29,198 --> 00:19:31,079 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, what tight end? 394 00:19:32,718 --> 00:19:36,599 Speaker 2: Where were you able to get assurances from Robert during 395 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: your discussions when considering this job that that you are 396 00:19:40,238 --> 00:19:41,599 Speaker 2: going to be able to spend that money. 397 00:19:41,718 --> 00:19:44,478 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm comfortable that you know that Elliot and I 398 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:47,038 Speaker 3: are going to be able to find ways to add 399 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: productive players, great people, uh to this football team. And 400 00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:55,999 Speaker 3: that's through the draft, that's through free agency. So I'm 401 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:58,318 Speaker 3: confident that we'll be able to have the resources that 402 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,758 Speaker 3: we need to to go sign players within within a limit. 403 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 3: And we understand that free agency isn't the only answer. 404 00:20:05,918 --> 00:20:09,318 Speaker 3: It's not one hundred percent, as you all know. But 405 00:20:09,398 --> 00:20:12,998 Speaker 3: it's about adding the right players and that we feel 406 00:20:12,999 --> 00:20:15,598 Speaker 3: like can help the team and that we're we're comfortable with. 407 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:18,559 Speaker 3: And sometimes if you don't know them, you also don't 408 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: know what you're going to get. Is this still a 409 00:20:21,158 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: destination when it comes to free agents? Well, I mean 410 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,079 Speaker 3: I think that we have to we have to make 411 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,079 Speaker 3: it a destination. And again, I'll tell you a story 412 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: about free agency when I got to when I got 413 00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:37,918 Speaker 3: to Houston, they had natural grass in the their dome 414 00:20:37,958 --> 00:20:39,599 Speaker 3: and they would wheel it out and they'd cut it 415 00:20:39,638 --> 00:20:42,158 Speaker 3: into sections, and I'm like, this is unique, Like what's 416 00:20:42,198 --> 00:20:44,279 Speaker 3: this And they are like, well, you know, we thought 417 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:46,799 Speaker 3: that they would the free agents would want to play 418 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:48,958 Speaker 3: on natural grass. I said, the only thing free agents 419 00:20:48,999 --> 00:20:53,438 Speaker 3: care about is green and it's not naturally. So there's 420 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:57,478 Speaker 3: two forms of free agency. It's the one is trying 421 00:20:57,519 --> 00:21:00,799 Speaker 3: to go out and maximize your earning potential and go 422 00:21:00,918 --> 00:21:03,998 Speaker 3: for the top dollar. And we see that early on 423 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:06,319 Speaker 3: in free agency, the first couple of days, that maybe 424 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:08,839 Speaker 3: the first week. Then after that I try to tell 425 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:12,958 Speaker 3: players it comes down to opportunity and what's you know, 426 00:21:12,999 --> 00:21:15,599 Speaker 3: if you'd want the best opportunity to go and be 427 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,599 Speaker 3: able to produce and contribute, and then that's going to 428 00:21:18,678 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: lead to then the next, you know, form of free agency, 429 00:21:21,438 --> 00:21:23,438 Speaker 3: where then you can take advantage of the system in 430 00:21:23,478 --> 00:21:25,198 Speaker 3: a year or two or whatever, you sign with us. 431 00:21:25,198 --> 00:21:27,599 Speaker 3: So you know, I was one of those players that 432 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:31,038 Speaker 3: are coming from Pittsburgh and signed up. And here it 433 00:21:31,158 --> 00:21:34,599 Speaker 3: was about the opportunity. It wasn't about the dollars that 434 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:38,599 Speaker 3: turned into being able to have those types of contracts 435 00:21:38,638 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: as as my career went on and a production increased 436 00:21:40,918 --> 00:21:43,438 Speaker 3: and all those other things. So we're going to identify 437 00:21:43,638 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: players at all different levels and and it's a process 438 00:21:46,398 --> 00:21:47,238 Speaker 3: putting it all together. 439 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,238 Speaker 2: Maybe if you provide free books on the sidelines, you 440 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:53,638 Speaker 2: might be able to get a certain wide receiver here. 441 00:21:53,958 --> 00:21:54,398 Speaker 3: We'll see. 442 00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:57,958 Speaker 2: But was he a big reader back when you guys 443 00:21:57,958 --> 00:21:58,438 Speaker 2: were together. 444 00:21:58,638 --> 00:22:00,478 Speaker 3: I think Aj is just trying to find ways to 445 00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:04,918 Speaker 3: I'm proud of his development, his personal development and working 446 00:22:04,918 --> 00:22:08,559 Speaker 3: on himself and working on controling his and getting back 447 00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: to center. And again, he's a passionate player and I 448 00:22:11,478 --> 00:22:13,158 Speaker 3: love him to death and I have a very very 449 00:22:13,158 --> 00:22:14,438 Speaker 3: close relationship with him. 450 00:22:14,638 --> 00:22:17,958 Speaker 5: That book's like number one on bestsellers now skyrocketed. 451 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:22,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, good for him, some realty. He wants the audio bak. 452 00:22:22,198 --> 00:22:29,678 Speaker 6: Yeah, voracious reader, you're talking about our audiobook bill. We 453 00:22:29,718 --> 00:22:33,158 Speaker 6: have a special guests on the line. That Billy in 454 00:22:33,198 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 6: the car that wanted to celebrate. 455 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,079 Speaker 2: Billy in the car. All right, well let's hire, let's 456 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: go to them. Let's let's go to Billy from Chestnut Hill. 457 00:22:39,478 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 3: Hey, Billy, the first time caller, longtime listener. 458 00:22:46,879 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: It is Bill O'Brien and otots. 459 00:22:51,918 --> 00:22:55,278 Speaker 7: Let's go Patriots. 460 00:22:55,718 --> 00:22:58,839 Speaker 3: You got any players up there? Yeah, Billy, we find 461 00:22:58,879 --> 00:22:59,438 Speaker 3: any players. 462 00:23:00,638 --> 00:23:03,198 Speaker 7: Are you gonna, Hey man, you gotta come come to 463 00:23:03,238 --> 00:23:05,158 Speaker 7: our pro day, come speak to our team. I mean 464 00:23:05,158 --> 00:23:07,999 Speaker 7: I've already put my DIBs in on that. So uh 465 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:11,198 Speaker 7: now I'm I'm excited for Mike, I'm excited for the Patriots, 466 00:23:11,238 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 7: and uh, it's gonna be awesome, no question. 467 00:23:14,158 --> 00:23:19,279 Speaker 3: No question. They Boston College is in good hands. They've 468 00:23:19,958 --> 00:23:25,279 Speaker 3: great coaching staff, great leadership, got great facilities. They redid 469 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,799 Speaker 3: the facilion a couple of years ago. It's unbelievable. So Billy, 470 00:23:28,879 --> 00:23:31,678 Speaker 3: I can't believe that. Uh I get to see you know, 471 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:35,518 Speaker 3: I can tell you some stories about working for Billy. Oh, 472 00:23:35,638 --> 00:23:39,799 Speaker 3: so they call him the teapot. The teapot, they'd go off, 473 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:42,319 Speaker 3: and then thirty seconds later he'd be like, what's wrong 474 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:42,558 Speaker 3: with you? 475 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:43,518 Speaker 2: Buy Why are you looking at him? 476 00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:46,319 Speaker 3: I'm like, Billy just cussed out every one of us 477 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,438 Speaker 3: for thirty seconds and now you're looking at it. It's like, 478 00:23:48,478 --> 00:23:51,079 Speaker 3: what's wrong? So the teapot would just boil over. 479 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:55,559 Speaker 2: And then he was fine, would you when when he 480 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,518 Speaker 2: and Tom went at it, would you go over and 481 00:23:57,559 --> 00:23:59,158 Speaker 2: calm him both down? Oh? 482 00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:02,038 Speaker 3: He gave way to Tom like that was just Billy 483 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:03,718 Speaker 3: trying to add tough on the TV. 484 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: Well he did. I gotta tell you. I'm sure I 485 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,398 Speaker 2: don't know if he saw the press conference yesterday, but 486 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: he Mike said a lot of nice things about you, 487 00:24:13,918 --> 00:24:17,678 Speaker 2: and you lived up to the promise to turn him 488 00:24:17,718 --> 00:24:21,238 Speaker 2: into a head coach. So something to be proud of, Bill. 489 00:24:22,638 --> 00:24:22,718 Speaker 3: No. 490 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:25,998 Speaker 7: I appreciated those comments. And you know, like I've said 491 00:24:26,678 --> 00:24:32,319 Speaker 7: several times this week that you know, Mike's a great coach. 492 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 7: He was a great assistant coach. He's been a hell 493 00:24:34,918 --> 00:24:37,279 Speaker 7: of a head coach, and he's exactly what the Patriots need. 494 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: And uh, you know, he'll come in there and he'll 495 00:24:39,918 --> 00:24:43,278 Speaker 7: treat every everybody in that building with great respect and 496 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,759 Speaker 7: and and he'll be fair with every player, but he'll 497 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 7: demand a lot and the standard of of how they 498 00:24:49,478 --> 00:24:51,839 Speaker 7: practice and how they lift weights, and how they run 499 00:24:51,918 --> 00:24:54,918 Speaker 7: and how they condition and obviously how they play games 500 00:24:54,918 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 7: and how they execute you know, it'll be way up there, sore. 501 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,398 Speaker 7: Everybody in the region is excited. And uh, it's great 502 00:25:02,398 --> 00:25:05,358 Speaker 7: for the Patriots and and uh, you know, great for Mike. 503 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,799 Speaker 2: Any advice for him on navigating the waters around here? 504 00:25:08,879 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: Any uh, any area, any offices he should stay out. 505 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:16,598 Speaker 3: Of avoid bowling or probably the one I'm sitting in 506 00:25:16,678 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 3: right now, the media studio. 507 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the one to stay out. Unfortunate, Unfortunately, 508 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:29,079 Speaker 2: you're contractually required. Oh you haven't read all right, Bill O'Brien. 509 00:25:29,158 --> 00:25:31,678 Speaker 2: We will. We'll talk to you again Thursday. But great 510 00:25:31,678 --> 00:25:33,079 Speaker 2: to hear from you. 511 00:25:33,158 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: I'll see it, Billy. 512 00:25:34,398 --> 00:25:37,918 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you gotta. Unfortunately, you got to do 513 00:25:37,999 --> 00:25:40,478 Speaker 2: every Monday with us Winter Winter lose you. 514 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: You have access to my contract. 515 00:25:45,198 --> 00:25:47,758 Speaker 2: I mean, well, we're going to be killing you when 516 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: you go for two or something and then you're gonna 517 00:25:49,918 --> 00:25:53,039 Speaker 2: have to come in here and uh and uh and answer. 518 00:25:53,158 --> 00:25:54,999 Speaker 3: I don't have to come in here. Technically, I can 519 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: just call in my office. I just have to do it. 520 00:25:58,158 --> 00:26:02,039 Speaker 3: I don't have to. Actually, the man with the goal 521 00:26:02,238 --> 00:26:03,278 Speaker 3: goal makes the rules. 522 00:26:03,678 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: Was that another thing when it came to Tennessee. I 523 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,839 Speaker 2: know you probably don't want to dwell in the past, 524 00:26:07,879 --> 00:26:09,478 Speaker 2: but just to clear up all this stuff. Was that 525 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:14,038 Speaker 2: another another thing too where you kind of disagreed with 526 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 2: the analytics guys like you went for h that game 527 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: of Miami or whatever and they were all buttered about it? 528 00:26:20,918 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: Is Was that an issue where wass not are the 529 00:26:23,438 --> 00:26:26,319 Speaker 2: game we won? Yeah? Or where are you on analytics? 530 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,198 Speaker 3: Are you I'm not sure where you get your information 531 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:33,238 Speaker 3: at the analytics We want to use as much information 532 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: as we can to make great informed decisions in real 533 00:26:37,918 --> 00:26:42,958 Speaker 3: time with real people and things change, right the weather, 534 00:26:43,158 --> 00:26:46,039 Speaker 3: the backups, who you have in the game, like how 535 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,238 Speaker 3: the defense is playing, how their offense is playing, have 536 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,238 Speaker 3: you stopped them? And you know, we'll always try to 537 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: use that information and excited to get with our staff 538 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 3: here to see what they've done. Whether that's in you know, 539 00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: acquiring players like I look at analytics and I look 540 00:27:00,198 --> 00:27:03,318 Speaker 3: at it in three phases. One is in player acquisition, 541 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,678 Speaker 3: how do you apply analytics and the numbers and the data, 542 00:27:07,198 --> 00:27:10,798 Speaker 3: play speed, estimated play speed, all these different things that 543 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: you can use to evaluate players. That's that's one area 544 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,558 Speaker 3: that we're going to try to use it, you know. 545 00:27:16,638 --> 00:27:19,638 Speaker 3: The other one is in you know player, you know 546 00:27:19,718 --> 00:27:22,039 Speaker 3: health and safety. How do we manage our players? What's 547 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,999 Speaker 3: the workload? What's their speeds? How often do they get 548 00:27:24,999 --> 00:27:27,279 Speaker 3: to ninety percent of their max speed? Right? You see 549 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:30,079 Speaker 3: all these numbers come out of the game. Let's say 550 00:27:30,158 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: a players max speed is twenty miles per hour. Well, 551 00:27:34,879 --> 00:27:37,799 Speaker 3: then we feel like at least one time between games, 552 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:42,318 Speaker 3: you should go ninety percent for a certain distance. So 553 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,758 Speaker 3: you should run an eighteen miles per hour for x 554 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: amount of distance if you're a gunner or a receiver 555 00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:48,918 Speaker 3: or a player that does that, Like, we can see 556 00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:50,799 Speaker 3: what they do in the game, and we want to 557 00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:53,158 Speaker 3: make sure that they're they're recreating that at least once 558 00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:56,279 Speaker 3: during the season or once during the week. So then 559 00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,279 Speaker 3: how we track player load management, how we construct practice, 560 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,079 Speaker 3: all these things that we're going to use the data. 561 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,839 Speaker 3: And then the final piece of analytics is game management 562 00:28:05,918 --> 00:28:09,518 Speaker 3: and you know risk ratio of going forward and all 563 00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 3: those different scenarios that you look at throughout the game. 564 00:28:11,999 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: So those are the three buckets that obviously we're going 565 00:28:14,198 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 3: to always try to use analytics and then make a decision. 566 00:28:18,438 --> 00:28:22,079 Speaker 2: All right, well, listen, I appreciate taking the time pleasure great, 567 00:28:22,198 --> 00:28:22,999 Speaker 2: glad to have you. 568 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,758 Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. 569 00:28:24,918 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: Let's let's go to work. 570 00:28:25,918 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: Okay, I can go back to work right now. 571 00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,158 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John as he brings you all the 572 00:28:31,238 --> 00:28:34,519 Speaker 1: latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 573 00:28:35,198 --> 00:28:37,559 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 574 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,639 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 575 00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:40,279 Speaker 1: state of the team. 576 00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:41,839 Speaker 2: But where the Patriots are concerned. 577 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,399 Speaker 7: Let's just get one thing done, and let's get it 578 00:28:44,439 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 7: done right, and then. 579 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:47,359 Speaker 2: We can worry about versatility. 580 00:28:47,479 --> 00:28:48,679 Speaker 7: Am I lying to anybody here? 581 00:28:48,959 --> 00:28:51,279 Speaker 2: Let's just get one thing done. 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