WEBVTT - What's Wright - Pacers-Thunder Game 5 Reaction: SGA & J-Dub GO OFF, Haliburton ALL-TIME BAD 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.879 Welcome in episode three forty What's Right with Nick Wright, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:14.800 presented to you by Boost Mobile. And this is an 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:19.680 insane show we have today because last night we had 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.680 something of the Yin and the Yang of historic NBA 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:29.080 Finals performances, And that's not an exaggeration. It was as 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.440 bad of a performance as you will see from a 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:37.080 team's best player, from a superstar in a finals game 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.520 in your entire life. And it was just about as 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.839 good of a performance as you will see from a 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:50.280 team's second best player in an NBA Finals game, as 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.360 you'll see in a decade. And so we will get 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.960 into all of that, and then we will also I 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.120 am going to make something of a faustian bargain with 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.560 the audience and we'll see how it works out. Because 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.320 it has a little to do with politics, It has 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.080 a little to do with solitaire, it has a little 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.680 to do with interness in media beefs, and it has 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.000 a little to do with the future of the Republic 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.600 as a whole. And I know there are a lot 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.680 of you that are not at all interested in a 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.640 handful of those things, but are not like a moth 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.720 to a flame. As soon as I say potential media beef. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.720 They're like, well, I guess I'm gonna have to stick 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.479 around for it, So so all of that is coming 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:44.120 later in the show. Also demandse you, if you would like, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.000 might actually be able to leave the show about twenty 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.240 minutes early, because not only do you are you not 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.960 obligated to participate in the last third of the show. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.400 I don't even know that I want you to for 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.680 your sake, for mine, for ever everyone's so you're welcome 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.920 to stick around, but you also are not obligated to 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:09.080 and if you would like the legitimate deniability of I 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.679 wasn't even there, you feel free to take the ear 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.799 piece out and keep it moving. How are you doing 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:16.560 this morning, sun? 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.160 Doing pretty good? Puffs. Good to see you. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.440 Yeah, good to see you as well. You sound great. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:22.000 Oh. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 I don't know if they changed your microphone or what, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.360 but it sound better than ever in my ear. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:27.560 All right. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.160 We will get to Game five of the Finals in 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.440 a moment, but first, thanks to our great friends at 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.960 boost Mobile. Straight to Voicemail, brought to you by boost 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.280 mob Mobile show Hey O, Tani pitches uh for the 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.600 first time in a couple of years with the Dodgers, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.360 throws it inn we'll get to we won't actually get 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.720 to that. That's why it's just missed the cut. Red Panda. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.760 Oh is Red Panda hall of Famer? Great take? Oh 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.880 my goodness, it wasn't such a busy show. I would 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.320 I could do at least five minutes on it. Red 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:06.840 Panda has certainly offered more to the lives of NBA 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.320 fans over the last twenty years than a lot of 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.280 guys who actually made the Hall of Fame. That I mean, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.399 that is a great take right there. And Joey Chestnut 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.679 returning to the Nathan to hot Dog eating contest a 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.160 story I do not care about it all, but because 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.560 once upon a time I made the case Joey Chestnuts 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.600 the world's greatest athlete in a segment called Nick Wright 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.280 Public Defender, Defend the Indefensible. The producers are convinced I 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.520 care about Joey chestnutt no matter how many times I 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.640 tell them, I actually do not care about Joey Chestnut. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.680 Remindered everyone like rate, subscribe, review, follow us on YouTube, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.880 subscribe on YouTube, check out the you Know on iTunes, Spotify. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.240 All of that lee five star reviews. I never asked 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.480 for reviews. It actually helps a lot. I don't totally 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.520 understand why, but that would be great. And here's the 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.240 other thing about people watching live on YouTube right now. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:04:01.600 The listener questions today are going to be interspersed throughout 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.840 the show based on the topics we're doing. We're not 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.080 gonna have if if you have a question that's unrelated 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.680 to everything, feel free to submit it and maybe we'll 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.440 get to it Thursday. But we're not gonna do questions 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.200 at the very end of today's show. So it's interactive 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.520 for people who are watching right now, and also about 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.560 the topics at hand. But demons, let's get to what 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.520 is likely the deciding moment of these NBA. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.600 Finals deciding Yeah, so okay, see went up three to 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.200 two last night. It looked like the Pacers were gonna 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.040 erase another one of those big deficits. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.599 They couldn't do it. Huge game from Jada and Shay. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.160 Halliburton got a little dinged up there early in the game, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.360 had four points. You said, you have a crazy, crazy 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.360 take about Halliburn. Do you mind laying that one on us? 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.160 Well, I don't listen. I don't think it's crazy, and 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.839 I think at times. So here's what happens sometimes in 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:03.320 some kind of meta media criticism, if I will, if 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.599 I may a little Amus boush before we get to 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:12.560 real media criticism later in the show. Because there are 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:19.600 so many prisoner of the moment knee jerk over the 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:26.600 top takes on a daily basis, there are then times 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:33.520 when something actually might be the worst you've ever seen, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:40.000 and it gets lumped into that doesn't it's a media 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.440 version of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, and where it 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.760 gets lumped into other Oh, well, how many you know? 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.520 We've heard this is the worst ever eleven times in 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:57.560 the last three years. And while maybe some of the 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.240 tyrese Haliburton, why doesn't he score more? And the answer 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.159 is because he's not a scorer. That's not where he 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:10.640 makes his impact. Some of that maybe prior to Game 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:18.120 five was a touch over stated. There is nothing that 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:25.920 I can think of that could overstate what happened last night, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:34.080 which is on the very short list and maybe at 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:40.800 the very top of the list of worst performances by 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:48.599 a superstar and by a team's best player in a 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.600 Gotta Have It Finals game. I have my other computer, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.039 so I have the computer I do the show on. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.320 I have my other computer, right here that I am 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.240 going to have to glance at because because I have 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:07.400 so many basketball reference pages open to try to find 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.200 the context for what Haliburton did last night or didn't 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.280 do last night, that I was worried this computer would 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.520 glitch on the pod even didn't. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.080 You go ahead, and even with him being banged up. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.080 Man, unless the injury was he lost his vision for 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.040 forty five minutes, that's not an excuse. It's I understand 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.680 he had calf soreness. I get it, and I understand 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.280 that he probably because of what we have seen with 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.520 calf injuries, was a little tentative because of it. But 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:48.920 zero for six, four points, a line of four seven 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:56.320 six with three turnovers in thirty four minutes, simply in 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.840 a game that somehow was a two point game in 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:04.000 the fourth quarter thanks to what, in all honesty the 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.760 backup point guard TJ McConnell was able to do in 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.760 his minutes. I've just never seen something like it, and 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.720 I so here again just to go over the different 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:22.679 qualifiers that I threw on there, and one other note, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.920 so Tyrese Halliburton last night again, game score is not 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.960 a perfect metric, but it is pretty decent as far 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.240 as a catch all stat fifteen is an average game. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.760 Anything above twenty five is exceptional, anything below ten is bad, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.520 anything in the negatives. It's one of the worst games 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.760 in NBA history. Basketball Reference is able to do game 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.000 score in the playoffs dating back to the late seventies. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:09:00.080 Halliburton last night had a game score of two point three. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.720 Text on it. J. Dubb had a game score of 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:08.320 thirty SGAT game score of twenty seven. If you want 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.559 to say, like, how does this compare to the other 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.600 Halliburton games these finals, because it's not like he's had 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.960 huge point games in the finals previously. His previous game 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:26.080 scores were eleven, fourteen, twenty three, twelve. This was again, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.480 this was two point three. So I'm gonna throw some 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.840 numbers at you, but I think they're noteworthy because it 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:41.080 is not an exaggeration to say that in our lifetimes 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:46.320 it might be the worst game a team's best player 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:53.480 has had in a critical game finals game. So I 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.959 threw this in the old stad heead not stat muse 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.720 stat Head, which partners Basketball Right Difference Hall of famers 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:06.040 who played at least thirty minutes and made zero baskets 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.800 in a finals game with a game score less than 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:14.200 five two times. Dennis Rodman did it. Makes sense, the 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.920 guy was a rebounder and a defender. Old Jason Kidd 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:24.600 did it. And then Ray Allen with a sneaky, horrific 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.360 game in the finals in twenty ten that they lost 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.600 to the Lakers. He had an OH for thirteen night, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:37.240 and Dennis Johnson for the seventy eight Sonics had an 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.720 OH for fourteen night. So the Dennis Johnson game, who 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.000 arguably was that team's best player, is the closest comp 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.920 because Ray Allen, as great as he was, was in 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.960 twenty ten the third best player on that Celtics team. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:58.080 If we expand it to okay, remove the Hall of 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:03.880 Fame qualifier from it, and we do at play at 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:09.560 least thirty minutes games score less than five field goals zero. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.040 The names on that list are I'm not going to 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.800 read you all of them, but it's Horace Grant, it's 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.520 Dennis Rodman, it's Bruce Bowen, it's Old Jason Kidd, it's 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.240 that Ray Allen game, and that Dennis Johnson game. There's 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:28.720 also the most recent one. The most recent ones were PJ. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.600 Tucker four years ago and Jay Crowder four years ago. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:39.319 If we then say, okay, Hall of Famer, remove game 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:44.080 score and or game score less than five, and just 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.400 have it be two or fewer baskets made again, he 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:53.960 made zero. It's a couple man new Jenobli games. One 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.960 Paul Pierce game that could qualify a Reggie Miller won 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.360 for sixteen game. That one's rough, and I'm not picking 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.400 on Reggie, but it is what it is. He was 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.720 the best player on that team, and then a bunch 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.560 of guys who weren't the best player on their team. Again, 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.120 you just can't find it. Wes Unseld had a brutal one, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:22.040 Michael Cooper had a brutal one. Zero made baskets, best 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:30.040 player on the team and playing thirty minutes. It maybe 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.600 has happened once in NBA history. And demon'sa you seem 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.160 like you are you think I'm being unfair because of 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:39.840 the injury. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.600 The injury, I mean, he took six shots. A lot 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.720 of those other guys you were saying, Denis Robins obviously 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.680 not a score first throw them out. Neither neither is 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.839 Tyrese Halliburn. You know, it's like the same thing. If 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.959 he's not a guy that naturally looks for a shot. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.120 I think that in a game where he gets banged 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.640 up early and he only takes six shots, like you said, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.040 Rayalna went oh for thirteen, it's I mean, he's if 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.280 he's already he's looking to get his teammates involved. I 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.319 think in a situation like that where his leg is 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.920 already kind of tweaked, he's definitely gonna be looking more 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:10.839 to get his team. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.440 All right, So this is where I guess I'm gonna 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.840 be an old man. I I do not care if 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.679 your leg is tweaked in Game five of the NBA Finals. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.920 Right exactly, That's why he played through it, right, But yeah. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.200 I mean you're I mean, he did play through it, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.520 and they had a they had a chance to steal 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:39.360 a game, and he he was I I am not. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.840 I don't think I am known as like the like 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.000 hot take negative guy. I might sometimes be known as 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:53.280 the hot take positive guy. Mahomes is the greatest ever, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.040 Lebron's the greatest ever, like that, you know what I mean? 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.640 Those types of things, And I think sometime people think 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:05.679 of me as like the hot take trolling guy, like 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.600 the Lamar James Harden thing, Like I know people that 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.920 rub people the wrong way. I get all that. I 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.960 do not often come out and be like, that's one 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.200 of the worst performances I've ever seen. I'm just here 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.640 to tell you. I went to bed last night thinking 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.800 was that one of the worst Finals performances in NBA history? 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.600 And I woke up this morning and I said, let 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:40.760 me check, and I checked and the answer was yeah. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.760 The Lebron game that people will bring up to this 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:48.400 day the worst moment of his career Game five against Dallas. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.400 He was three for eleven, eight, nine and seven were 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.280 his stats. He had a five point nine game score. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.120 Worst game of his career. Worst moment of his career 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.480 wasn't as bad as that. The Kobe game that people 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.920 will bring up. In the two thousand Finals, he had 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.440 a negative point four game score. He was four for 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:16.600 twenty against the in a blowout loss to the Pacers. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.920 That one, I guess bothers me a little less because 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.240 they were up three to one in a series they 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:31.240 couldn't lose. Wilt had an unbelievable Wilton sixty nine Wilt 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.880 Chamberlain in nineteen sixty nine against old man Bill Russell. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.040 In Russell's final Championship, Wilt had a four point, an 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.760 eight point and an eight point game all in one finals, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.680 and one of those four point games he was only 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.280 one of six from the field. The eight point game 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.040 he was one of five from the field. The yeah, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.240 but to that is, in those three games where Wilt 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:01.880 scored four, eight, and eight, he had nineteen, thirty one 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:06.120 and eighteen rebounds. So I'm like, okay, like you really 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.920 didn't do anything offensively. You did average twenty five rebounds 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.320 a game. I don't really know. I didn't see those games. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:18.400 I'm not sure. Bill Russell, you know, all time legendary guy, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.120 So I don't it. But if I am looking up 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:29.240 like the historic, memorable worst lebron moment of his career, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.600 the four for twenty Kobe game, the one of the 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.880 most famous Wilt series ever. Now again, you can say, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:43.440 those guys all are upper upper upper crust, top twelve 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.880 players of all time, you know, Hall of famers, and 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.280 this Tyrese Halliburton, and I totally understand that, and so 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.440 I'm not holding him to that standard. What I'm saying 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:59.000 is the best player on a team doing this in 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.960 the finals does happen. It just doesn't even the Ray 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.359 Allen game. He was the third option on that team. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.720 You I guess you could argue second he was the 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:15.280 third option the Dennis Johnson in seventy eight. Is I 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.640 guess the comp the issue with that one if that's 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.280 the one like you want to use, because that, by 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:29.119 the way, in fairness, was a Game seven that Dennis 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.480 Johnson did that they came back to win the championship 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.720 the next year, So it's like, oh, well that you 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.880 know that at least kind of makes up for it. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:45.360 And so and I guess, listen, they maybe could yea, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.359 oh you know, no, no, no, so maybe they'll do 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.480 that next year. He'll make up for it. But it 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.879 is It's on the shortest list of worst Finals performances 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:04.560 by a superstar ever. And not calling it that is 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:12.240 actually more disrespectful to Haliburton than what I'm doing right now, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.520 because if you go on TV or on radio or 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:21.080 on a podcast today and give him a pass, then 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:26.000 what you're saying is, ah, I I don't really I 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:31.080 don't think of you as one of those guys because 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:38.440 everyone else that is the the old guys. Steph lebron 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:44.680 kd would get cracked if they had this game. The youngs, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:51.600 the Anthony Edwards, Shay Luca would not be allowed to 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:57.199 have this game. Jannis Joker, Jalen Brunson would not be 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.640 allowed to have this game. And so is it an 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:09.680 indictment on his career? No do I think, though what demonds. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.960 Every single player that you list are just so different 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.000 from this player specifically, like every. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.199 Single one, like they they all the all the. 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.320 Players that you just listed might be more similar to 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.760 each other than Haliburton is to any of them, like, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:24.440 and it's just. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.640 Like, if that's right, if that's already not. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.240 The guys are passed first point guards. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.080 Right like and if that's already his style. But it's 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.080 we'll see what he does in the next game. You'll see. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.879 Here's the thing here. I get what you're saying, but 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:48.520 it's not like he had thirteen assists. It's not like 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.600 he like, so you're if it was just low scoring, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.040 which is what it's been for him in a few 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.639 of these finals games, you can deal with it. But 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.960 his assists, by the way, have been six, seven, eleven, 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:07.600 great six six. The he he's turned the ball over 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.320 three plus times in all of these games. He didn't 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.359 get to the he didn't get to the line, which 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.840 he hasn't done. I mean, he has seven free throws 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:23.040 this series. I I you're right, demons that and I 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.360 talked about the other day how history says, man, if 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.560 your top guy is not a go get you a 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.960 bucket guy, if you don't have the best defense in basketball, 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.640 your name's not Magic Johnson, You're you're not winning the championship. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.240 I understand that, But oh for six and four points 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.280 in the finals is OH for six and four points 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.520 in the finals. And if we can't, if we can't 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.199 call that for what it is, then I don't know. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.600 We don't have to spend more time on it. But 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:59.359 it's it is. It is as much of a no 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:05.480 show as you will see in a finals game by 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:10.080 a superstar if you live a hundred years, it's what 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:15.600 it was. And to have that come off the heels 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:21.840 of them blowing Game four. 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:24.640 I. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.320 Again, I don't I'm not even one of the people 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.959 that doesn't like Haliburton. So I don't love that. I 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.080 And I'm curious what other people are gonna say today. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:35.560 I don't know. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.360 I hope I'm not like the face of like Anti 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:45.359 Tyre's Halliburton it's not what I'm trying to be. But 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.280 and this is the this is the part that will 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:56.280 probably make you, because you're naturally a bit of an impath, uncomfortable. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.560 I think Tyre's Halliburton's gonna think of about these last 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:05.119 two games for the rest of his career because I 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.159 don't know that I think the Pacers are going to 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.240 be right back here. I don't know that, I don't know. 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:17.040 I think it's probably the smart bet that Tyrese Halliburton 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.240 that when his career is over, we look at the 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:28.040 two The two biggest games of his career were these 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.080 last two. And now, if Pacer fans are yelling, they 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:37.720 are not anywhere close to there without him. Absolutely, it's 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.080 still an all time playoff run. You bet your ass. 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:46.560 He has imprinted himself on NBA history with the clutch 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:54.000 shots in this postseason and in thirty years when whoever 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.439 the hell is going on an all time playoff run 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.560 and the guy hits his third de facto buzzer beater 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:07.400 of the playoffs and people say this is the greatest 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:12.159 clutch shooting run in playoff history. Our AI over lords 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.560 are gonna pop a graphic that says, nope, Tyrese Haliburton 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.399 had four in one year, Like that's gonna happen. And 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:25.880 but man, oh man, the flip side is in thirty 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:31.760 years when somebody has an over in a de facto 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.080 deciding game of the finals and people are like, has 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:40.359 a team's best guy ever done that before? His name's 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:41.959 gonna pop there too. 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.640 When do we decide that he was the unanimous best 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.640 player on the Pacers? What about Pascal Siakam Oh? 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.199 I think he's clearly the best player. I think everything 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.400 runs through him. I think it's like his style and 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.600 his and like Siakam's the best scorer. But I think 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.639 he's the best player the team. I mean, to me, 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:08.199 that's it's fair. But that's that's not a to me, 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:09.960 that's not a question, all right. Ask a couple of 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.120 these questions from the listeners or viewers. 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.639 I guess Argent asked, do you regret having Holly in 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:17.679 club Superstar? 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.119 And is he still in the club? 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.120 No, I don't regret it, and I and yes he's 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:29.000 still in the club. I I think that I think 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.360 he's one of the twelve best players in the league. 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.679 And he's had an unbelievable postseason. 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:37.040 And he. 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.240 Carried a team that no one thought was going to 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.800 be in the finals to the finals. But I mean, 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:52.200 this is this is this is really really, really really bad. 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.560 Ask Liam and Alden's questions. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.800 Yeah, Liam's in line with me. He says, why hog 0:24:58.920 --> 0:24:59.840 the ball when injured? 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:07.720 I let's not hog the ball, man, Let's get a bucket. 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:13.640 Get get one bucket. I'man again like the I mean 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:21.719 I and also I the maybe I'm looking at the 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:29.800 injury different than you guys. I hit he had calf tightness. 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.760 I mean he almost did like the same thing that 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.000 Paul George did. I feel like, like I want to say, 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.440 like hyperintended totally and Paul George is gone after that happened. 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:46.160 I man, he but he was. He was running around 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.960 like he did. This was not this was not og 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.960 Nanobi in the playoffs last year against the Pacers, where 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.879 it's like I have a strained hamstring, I'm gonna go 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.840 out there and I'm limping up the court like I 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.560 don't know. Man, that's a It's a tough one, all right, last. 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:05.879 One for him? 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.440 Move Adrian ass If you had to compare Halliburn's performance 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.400 yesterday with the recent postseason performance, but NFL quarterback. 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:14.359 Which one would it be. 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:21.240 Justin Herbert's four picks? I mean, that's that's the answer, 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:26.879 Like the in a in a very winnable game that 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.000 he threw four picks and didn't, But it would be 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.359 it would have been that if briefly Justin Herbert left 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.040 the game, his backup quarterback came in and started dealing, 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.000 and then he came back in and immediately threw another one. 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.800 I mean, it's not good, guys. All right, NBA Finals 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.040 are here, at least for a little bit longer, and 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.280 this really is your last chance to bet on the 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.720 NBA until next season. Draftings Sportsbook, an official sports betting 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.000 partner of the NBA, is pulling out all the stops 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.440 to make this a finals. 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