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Speaker 1: Welcome in episode three forty What's Right with Nick Wright,

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Speaker 1: presented to you by Boost Mobile. And this is an

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Speaker 1: insane show we have today because last night we had

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Speaker 1: something of the Yin and the Yang of historic NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals performances, And that's not an exaggeration. It was as

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Speaker 1: bad of a performance as you will see from a

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Speaker 1: in your entire life. And it was just about as

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Speaker 1: good of a performance as you will see from a

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Speaker 1: you'll see in a decade. And so we will get

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Speaker 1: into all of that, and then we will also I

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Speaker 1: am going to make something of a faustian bargain with

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Speaker 1: the audience and we'll see how it works out. Because

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Speaker 1: it has a little to do with politics, It has

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Speaker 1: a little to do with solitaire, it has a little

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Speaker 1: to do with interness in media beefs, and it has

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Speaker 1: a little to do with the future of the Republic

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Speaker 1: as a whole. And I know there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of you that are not at all interested in a

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Speaker 1: to a flame. As soon as I say potential media beef.

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, I guess I'm gonna have to stick

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Speaker 1: around for it, So so all of that is coming

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Speaker 1: later in the show. Also demandse you, if you would like,

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Speaker 1: might actually be able to leave the show about twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes early, because not only do you are you not

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Speaker 1: obligated to participate in the last third of the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know that I want you to for

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Speaker 1: your sake, for mine, for ever everyone's so you're welcome

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Speaker 1: to stick around, but you also are not obligated to

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Speaker 1: and if you would like the legitimate deniability of I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even there, you feel free to take the ear

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Speaker 1: piece out and keep it moving. How are you doing

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Speaker 1: this morning, sun?

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Speaker 2: Doing pretty good? Puffs. Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see you as well. You sound great.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they changed your microphone or what,

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Speaker 1: but it sound better than ever in my ear.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We will get to Game five of the Finals in

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Speaker 1: a moment, but first, thanks to our great friends at

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Speaker 1: mob Mobile show Hey O, Tani pitches uh for the

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Speaker 1: first time in a couple of years with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: throws it inn we'll get to we won't actually get

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Speaker 1: to that. That's why it's just missed the cut. Red Panda.

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Speaker 1: Oh is Red Panda hall of Famer? Great take? Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, it wasn't such a busy show. I would

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Speaker 1: Panda has certainly offered more to the lives of NBA

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Speaker 1: guys who actually made the Hall of Fame. That I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is a great take right there. And Joey Chestnut

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Speaker 1: the world's greatest athlete in a segment called Nick Wright

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Speaker 1: Public Defender, Defend the Indefensible. The producers are convinced I

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Speaker 1: for people who are watching right now, and also about

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Speaker 1: the topics at hand. But demons, let's get to what

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Speaker 1: is likely the deciding moment of these NBA.

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Speaker 3: Finals deciding Yeah, so okay, see went up three to

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Speaker 2: They couldn't do it. Huge game from Jada and Shay.

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Speaker 3: Halliburton got a little dinged up there early in the game,

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Speaker 3: had four points. You said, you have a crazy, crazy

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't listen. I don't think it's crazy, and

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Speaker 1: We've heard this is the worst ever eleven times in

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Speaker 1: Gotta Have It Finals game. I have my other computer,

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Speaker 1: the context for what Haliburton did last night or didn't

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Speaker 2: You go ahead, and even with him being banged up.

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Speaker 1: Man, unless the injury was he lost his vision for

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes, that's not an excuse. It's I understand

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Speaker 1: Anything above twenty five is exceptional, anything below ten is bad,

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Speaker 1: anything in the negatives. It's one of the worst games

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Speaker 1: Halliburton last night had a game score of two point three.

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Speaker 1: this was two point three. So I'm gonna throw some

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Speaker 1: it might be the worst game a team's best player

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Speaker 1: If we expand it to okay, remove the Hall of

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Speaker 1: The names on that list are I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: made zero. It's a couple man new Jenobli games. One

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Speaker 1: like you are you think I'm being unfair because of

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Speaker 3: The injury, I mean, he took six shots. A lot

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Speaker 3: of those other guys you were saying, Denis Robins obviously

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Speaker 3: not a score first throw them out. Neither neither is

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Speaker 3: Tyrese Halliburn. You know, it's like the same thing. If

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Speaker 3: he's not a guy that naturally looks for a shot.

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Speaker 3: I think that in a game where he gets banged

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Speaker 3: Rayalna went oh for thirteen, it's I mean, he's if

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Speaker 3: he's already he's looking to get his teammates involved. I

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Speaker 3: think in a situation like that where his leg is

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Speaker 3: already kind of tweaked, he's definitely gonna be looking more

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is where I guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be an old man. I I do not care if

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Speaker 1: your leg is tweaked in Game five of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, That's why he played through it, right, But yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're I mean, he did play through it,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I am known as like the like

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Speaker 1: the hot take positive guy. Mahomes is the greatest ever,

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Speaker 1: Those types of things, And I think sometime people think

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Speaker 3: Every single player that you list are just so different

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Speaker 3: Players that you just listed might be more similar to

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Speaker 2: Like, if that's right, if that's already not.

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Speaker 1: The guys are passed first point guards.

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Speaker 2: Right like and if that's already his style. But it's

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing here. I get what you're saying, but

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Speaker 1: his assists, by the way, have been six, seven, eleven,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done. I mean, he has seven free throws

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Speaker 1: I understand that, But oh for six and four points

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Speaker 1: We don't have to spend more time on it. But

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Speaker 1: it's it is. It is as much of a no

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't I'm not even one of the people

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm not like the face of like Anti

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Speaker 1: Tyre's Halliburton it's not what I'm trying to be. But

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Speaker 1: I think Tyre's Halliburton's gonna think of about these last

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably the smart bet that Tyrese Halliburton

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Speaker 1: are not anywhere close to there without him. Absolutely, it's

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Speaker 1: still an all time playoff run. You bet your ass.

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Speaker 1: He has imprinted himself on NBA history with the clutch

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Speaker 1: had four in one year, Like that's gonna happen. And

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Speaker 1: but man, oh man, the flip side is in thirty

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Speaker 3: When do we decide that he was the unanimous best

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Speaker 1: I think he's clearly the best player. I think everything

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Speaker 1: he's the best player the team. I mean, to me,

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Speaker 1: that's it's fair. But that's that's not a to me,

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Speaker 3: I guess Argent asked, do you regret having Holly in

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Speaker 2: And is he still in the club?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't regret it, and I and yes he's

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Speaker 1: still in the club. I I think that I think

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Speaker 1: And he's had an unbelievable postseason.

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Speaker 2: And he.

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Speaker 1: Carried a team that no one thought was going to

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Speaker 1: Ask Liam and Alden's questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Liam's in line with me. He says, why hog

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Speaker 1: I let's not hog the ball, man, Let's get a bucket.

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Speaker 1: Get get one bucket. I'man again like the I mean

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Speaker 1: I and also I the maybe I'm looking at the

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Speaker 3: I mean he almost did like the same thing that

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Speaker 1: I man, he but he was. He was running around

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Speaker 1: don't know. Man, that's a It's a tough one, all right, last.

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Speaker 3: talk about jadobs hies.

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Speaker 2: He dropped forty yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to put that into context and being

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Speaker 3: the second man and all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, the example everyone's going to go

435
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Speaker 1: to correctly is Kyrie twenty sixteen Game five. Lebron scored

436
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Speaker 1: forty one. Kyrie scored forty one in an all time

437
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Speaker 1: duo performance. This to me, I I'm not gonna this

438
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: was different than the Kyrie one in that SGA was

439
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: like even in that Kyrie performance, I think for Lebron

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Speaker 1: it was he had forty one eight and eleven and

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Speaker 1: he had forty one sixteen and seven and back to

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Speaker 1: back games. I don't know which one was Game five

443
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and which one was Game six, but even in that game,

444
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: Lebron was the driving force and Kyrie was right alongside him.

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Speaker 1: This game, j Dub as good as Shay was, and

446
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Speaker 1: Shay was excellent. J Dubb was their best guy last night.

447
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Speaker 1: And I had heard somebody I forget who be like, man,

448
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: could Jalen Williams be kind of this generation Scottie Pippen?

449
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Speaker 1: And when I heard that, my initial reaction was that

450
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: is so ridiculous and so disrespectful to Scotty. Now this

451
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: is going to be prisoner of the moment. He But

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Speaker 1: now I'm like, I don't know. Maybe Scotty's career playoff

453
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Speaker 1: high with Chicago career high was thirty two. He had

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Speaker 1: he never scored forty in the playoffs. I know he

455
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Speaker 1: had one huge scoring game with Houston in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I remember it, but it wasn't it was so high thirties.

457
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Speaker 1: But with the Bulls. I looked it up this morning,

458
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Speaker 1: it was thirty two. And now Scotty Jadob's an excellent defender.

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Speaker 1: He's not Scottie Pippen defensively, but I mean he's also

460
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Speaker 1: not a fully formed player yet. I Jalen Williams what

461
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: he's his ARC is super fascinating and super fun to

462
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: talk about in a positive way because Jalen Williams in

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways. If someone wanted to say, why

464
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Speaker 1: did the thunder lose last year to the Maps other

465
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: than Luca was unbelievable and the MAVs shot the lights out.

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Speaker 1: If your answer to that question is Jalen Williams didn't

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Speaker 1: show up, that's a fine answer. Last year Round two

468
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Speaker 1: against the Maps, seventeen points a game on forty two

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Speaker 1: percent from the field, and his prime I Mary Guard

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Speaker 1: or one of them, Luca just lit them up right

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Speaker 1: for him to respond. And then this year in the

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Speaker 1: Nuggets series in the same round, it looked like, uh oh,

473
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Speaker 1: is Jalen Williams gonna be one of those playoff guys,

474
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Speaker 1: and not in a good way. When we saw him

475
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Speaker 1: in that Game four that they ended up winning, he

476
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: goes two for thirteen. Game five, he's five for fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Game six, he's three for sixteen, and it's like, uh oh,

478
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: are they gonna have sneakily a Jalen Williams problem. And

479
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: then Game seven of that series he was exceptional. And

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Speaker 1: then in these Finals, after two pretty non descript offensive games,

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Speaker 1: he scored two twix on fifty percent in Game three,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven on forty four percent in Game four, and

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Speaker 1: forty on fifty percent in game five. And this is

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Speaker 1: another thing I looked up, like forty point games in

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Speaker 1: the finals. Demonse, forty point games in the finals is

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Speaker 1: thirty ever in NBA history. If we switch it to

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Speaker 1: and then in fact, let me just leave that there

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Speaker 1: just for a second. So guys who are not on

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Speaker 1: that list, Larry Bird not on that list. Tim Duncan

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Speaker 1: not on that list. This one's not a big Oh

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Speaker 1: Magic is on that list? Shout out Magic? Oh yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: of course, what am I thinking about? The most famous

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Speaker 1: game Magic s career, Game six, when he jump center

494
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Speaker 1: filling in for Kareem as a rookie, he scored forty

495
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Speaker 1: as a Magic as a rookie Game six, played center

496
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Speaker 1: and scored forty And it was the only time you

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Speaker 1: ever scored forty in the finals. But so when we're

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Speaker 1: talking about like all time, guys, a team not on

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Speaker 1: that list, if we want to zero it in and

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Speaker 1: I just switch it to, uh, if they're active or

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: not there we go, let me click active, yes, get

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00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: results all of the active players with forty point finals games.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's got the second most all time with eight. Second

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Speaker 1: by the way, two. If it's not Michael demons, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw this one at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I was talking to myself, but now I'm

508
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Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you. It's Jordan's got six, Lebron

509
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Speaker 1: got eight.

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Speaker 2: So it's so Lebron's two, Jordan's three, and then there's

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Speaker 2: this number one.

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Speaker 1: Game correct, correct. So I'm gonna give you one hint.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is is final, Final Finals.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a hint. He's a guy that,

515
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Speaker 1: in the last couple of months, all of a sudden,

516
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: we didn't impromptu like eight minutes on his career, and

517
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: how great but unlucky he won.

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Speaker 2: It's us, is it? Russ? No, no, no, ok great but unlucky.

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00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: Jerry West Oh, Jerry Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jerry West as has ten Okay. But here is the

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Speaker 1: full list of active players with a forty point Finals

522
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: game Bron eight, Giannis three, Kyrie, Steph Booker shout out

523
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Speaker 1: Booker two each, and then one apiece Russ so you

524
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: were close, Kevin Durant, Jimmy Butler, Chris Middleton, Joker, Jalen Williams.

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00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: That's the list. So that's remarkable. I mean, that is

526
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Speaker 1: utterly and thoroughly remarkable. It is it is in line

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Speaker 1: with and the best example of that performance is the

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton game. And I should have mentioned this before

529
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the Kyrie game, the game down to one

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Speaker 1: to the Suns, the game that is famous for the

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Speaker 1: Yiannis block on eighton Chris Middleton dropped forty on fifteen

532
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: of thirty three from the field. And similarly to how

533
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: Shay was really good but not exceptional Giannis twenty six,

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: fourteen and eight and that blocks, I mean, that's might

535
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Speaker 1: be exceptional. That's pretty damn good, but you know, didn't

536
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Speaker 1: match his score it And so if I this, doing

537
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: it as a second option is just such a special

538
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: and unique thing. And I'm that's the only he's the

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00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: only guy on that list. Well, fairs Fair Russ in

540
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: twenty twelve would have been the other one. Russ he

541
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Speaker 1: had forty three on a you know, Durant obviously was

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00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: on the team, so he would be the other of

543
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: the active guys. That was a true and Kyrie, who

544
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, a true second option to go out

545
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: there and drop forty And it really does for a

546
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: kid who just turned twenty four and is an awesome

547
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: two way player for him to get better and better

548
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: and explode offensively like this. That is the type of

549
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: thing that makes you incredibly optimistic about what. Yeah, the

550
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: thunder future. Another like all time game by a team's

551
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: not their best player, the famous James Worthy game that

552
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to say got him the

553
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: nickname Big Game James. Oh you know what that game?

554
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'm looking at it now. That's not the

555
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: game where he's because Worthy scored forty in a finals loss.

556
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: Worthy had some big ones, but his only forty point

557
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: game was a finals loss, And so like Kobe as

558
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: great as Kobe was young Kobe, I mean scored forty

559
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: with Shack. He scored forty once in the finals, and

560
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: it was when he the first championship they won without Shack.

561
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: It's a special thing this kid just did, and you

562
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: have to raise the ceiling of what they and he

563
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: can be because of it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Like, well ahead with that game that he just had.

565
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Speaker 3: If Shae where to like say, okay, see wins the

566
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Speaker 3: next game they win the finals, Jadab drops like thirty six,

567
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Speaker 3: thirty seven or something. Shae drops like twenty two to

568
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Speaker 3: twenty three points. You think there's a chance Shadeo gets

569
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Speaker 3: finals MVP over Shae.

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Speaker 1: So I saw that percolating. That to me would be crazy, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that right now. In the series, Shae

572
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: is averaging thirty two, five and five with two and

573
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: a half steals in two blocks. Jadab is averaging twenty six,

574
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Speaker 1: six and four with one steal a game and zero blocks,

575
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: and Shay's been more efficient. So I think that.

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Speaker 2: Hard to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would take kind of what you described,

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Speaker 1: Like if listen, it's it's only seven or nine voters,

579
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Speaker 1: it's in the heat of the moment, you just vote

580
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Speaker 1: for one name. So is there a scenario like if

581
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Speaker 1: Jadub goes out and drops thirty five plus again and

582
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Speaker 1: Shaye is Shae? Would the thing is this? And I

583
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Speaker 1: don't think this can happen. Really, Shaye would have to

584
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Speaker 1: be bad like Shaye would. They would have to win

585
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Speaker 1: despite shit, Yeah, he'd have to have like fourteen Like

586
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Speaker 1: could you imagine if he was like zero for six

587
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: with four points? Well, that's impossible and so like I

588
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: So I don't right now, I would say Shaye has

589
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: to be minus one thousand for maybe that maybe you

590
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Speaker 1: guys can look that up for finals MVP, And so

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Speaker 1: I I don't I get it, But I think Shae

592
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Speaker 1: I also am of the belief demands that if it's

593
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Speaker 1: close and right now, it's not close. Right now, it

594
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Speaker 1: is clear right now if the it's last night was

595
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: the clinching game, yeah it should be. Also, she is

596
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Speaker 1: only minus five point fifty and the thunder to win

597
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: the series or what like minus fifteen hundred or something,

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Speaker 1: so that they're saying it's closer than I think it is.

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00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: But if it is close, I think the best player

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00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: should get it. And right now I don't think it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's close. All right? What are some

602
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: follow ups before we get to.

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Speaker 3: How comfortable do you think okay See should be going

604
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: into this next game comfortable at all?

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be quite comfortable. De Monsey, I

606
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: think the Pacers know they missed their shot.

607
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: I hope that's not how they feel.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they absolutely have a shot with

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00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: this next game being at home. I mean, hopefully the

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Speaker 3: Hallerbird injury isn't getting everybody's head. You know, you've got

611
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: a couple days to rest, got him at home. Those

612
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: role players for okay See, or like night and day

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Speaker 3: when it comes to playing in Oklahoma or Indiana.

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Speaker 1: So listen, I've underestimated Indiana every step of the way,

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00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: so you might be right now. I mean, I also,

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Speaker 1: if Oklahoma City wins Game six, it will so validate

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00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: why Bet of the Year was Bet of the year.

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: They lose a game on a buzzer beater. The Pacers

619
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Speaker 1: are playing better than anyone could have possibly expected. TJ.

620
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: McConnell has a game, Benedict Mathern has a game. Like,

621
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Speaker 1: all of these things happen, and Bet of the Year

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Speaker 1: still comes in.

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Speaker 2: If you're hedging, you know you can't.

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Speaker 1: Really, here's the thing. It's very very difficult. Not that

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00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: I would, but it's very very difficult to hedge minus

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Speaker 1: odds bets. This was a minus two sixty ish bet

627
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Speaker 1: to begin with. So now all of a sudden, like

628
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: and and so now I'm gonna bet the Pacers plus

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Speaker 1: you know what's the Let me look the Pacers on

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: the money line for Game six. I mean, I'm not

631
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: thinking about it. No, I was gonna through, but there's

632
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: no chance I'm doing it. And so no, this is better.

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Speaker 1: The year was better the year for a reason, boys

634
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: and girls. Now I will tell you Friday night in

635
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Miami watching Game four, the bet of the Year was

636
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: dead because is the Pacers were gonna win that game.

637
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: And I still think the Pacers are going to look

638
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: back on They had four consecutive possessions demand at the

639
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter of Game four, up ten,

640
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: where the Thunder had gone empty trips four straight times,

641
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: and it was a McConnell miss back to back top

642
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: and missed free throws and then two Siaka misses, and

643
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: it just felt like that was their moment to take

644
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: the game and maybe take control of the series, and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: the Thunder as villain's theory.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so you know how about that? So you

648
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: know how every time a team gets.

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Speaker 3: Good or there's the threat of a dynasty, everybody starts

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00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: to hate him. You know, Shay's Foal Bayden in Indiana

651
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: being a leveable team and then beating him. How long

652
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: do you think it'll take for fans to start hating Okay, see.

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00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: I think it's going to It's very hard to go

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00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: from uh apathy to hate, and I I apathy is

655
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: too strong. But I don't think there's a ton of

656
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: people right now that have super passionate opinions about the

657
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Thunder in a negative or positive direction other than obviously

658
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: their fans, and like die hard basketball fans that just

659
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: really appreciate what they've built and who they are. So

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00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: I like this. At one point won three championships in

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00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: five years. They were never hated at least I don't

662
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: think they were. And by the way, as far as Foubating,

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00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't their best player, but nobody was

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Speaker 1: in NBA history was more guilty of that than Manu.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait oh the Falbating You said, ye, yes,

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Speaker 3: Spurs is just a different team. I feel like, okay

667
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: sees those guys are just monotone to me. I don't know,

668
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Speaker 3: Like you can't listen right, So that you're saying that

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Speaker 3: the thunder Avenue.

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00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: More personality, very.

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Speaker 1: Gen z, I mean, yes, they are very They would

672
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: be our first true gen Z champion, and in god,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're even are they Zoomers.

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00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're gen Z, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure, like uh, and so or is it

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Speaker 1: jenn Alfa, I don't even know, but uh, but I

677
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: don't think I also, and you thought I was premature

678
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Speaker 1: when I did this after Game five of the Western

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Speaker 1: Conference I'm sorry East after game after game four of

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals, when I did the thunder winning

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00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the championship of pump the breaks on the dynasty talk,

682
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't premature. They are winning the championship, and I

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00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: still say pump the breaks on the dynasty talk with

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Speaker 1: the caveat of let's see how much better Jadab can get,

685
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: because I am not just like I am not going

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: to underreact to Shay's performance last night, I'm not going

687
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: to underreact to Jadab's performance either. Uh, And I think

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00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: that is a stop you in your tracks. Wait a

689
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: minute here, what can this guy be at twenty four

690
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: years old when he does this type of moment. It's

691
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: forty points in the finals. Again, thirty guys ever have

692
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: done it forty points as a second option in the finals,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Russ, James Worthy, Chris Middleton, and we're close to

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Speaker 1: the end of the list. So that is that's something

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Speaker 1: really really special. All right, So let's let's ask some

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Speaker 1: of these chat questions before him move on.

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Speaker 3: TS, do you think Shay is essentially what Jordan would

698
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: look like in the modern NBA just more shifty, but

699
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 3: less athletic and not the best guy in the league,

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Speaker 3: but like top five.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, Michael Jordan would be the best guy in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. Yeah like that. I mean, guys,

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00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: you're Jenna. I understand that. I think Jordan's legend might

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00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: be a little overstated. But prime Kareem and prime Lebron

705
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Speaker 1: are not active in the league. So I am couple

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Speaker 1: saying Michael Jordan, like prime Michael Jordan would pretty comfortably

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Speaker 1: be the best player in the league. So that's first

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Speaker 1: of all. Second of all, I am very I do

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Speaker 1: think there are I think that's a fair comp like

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Speaker 1: a killer in the mid range, But Jordan's prime Jordan's

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Speaker 1: Jordan before the first retirement. His athleticism was just so unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: and like Shay is more, you know, more of an artist.

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00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh and so but I understand the I

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Speaker 1: understand the point. I like Scott's question.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Scott says, well, SGA in spar king A to want

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Speaker 3: to be basketball players more than ever before.

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Speaker 1: I bet if the MVP of the league and champions

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Speaker 1: from your country, like that's one of the great things

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Speaker 1: about the game expanding and the you saw once the

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Speaker 1: NBA got some stars or not even necessarily stars, just

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Speaker 1: big time players from Eastern Europe. We're getting getting paid

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Speaker 1: the dividends now. Dream comes over the NBA puts a

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Speaker 1: real investment in Africa, that we're getting paid the dividends now,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean I would imagine, I you know,

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash had a real impact on this as well,

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Speaker 1: and so yeah, I mean I think I think that

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Speaker 1: when you have a true superstar from a place that

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Speaker 1: otherwise wasn't producing stars, that yeah, that there is a groundswell.

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Speaker 1: I think there's no there's no doubt about that. All right.

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747
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: to some of the NBA trade stuff before we get

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00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: to lying media beefs and the future of the Republic

749
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Speaker 1: as a whole. So go ahead to mind.

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Speaker 3: NBA trade season has opened up. Memphis traded Desmond Bane

751
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 3: to Orlando for Contavious Cabo, Pope, Cole Anthony, four first rounders,

752
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: and a swap. So now the Magic have the fifth

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00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: best odds to win the East next year.

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Speaker 2: Where's your reaction to this trade?

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00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: All right, bunch of quick hitters. First one is this

756
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: it's a low key diss of the Pacers. Here's what

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00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Because they're saying we could take the East right now, right,

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Speaker 2: They're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Magic are like, well, Paul is our guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if Indiana can do it, why can't we? So like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I I'm not exaggerating when I say I

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00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: don't think this trade happens if Jason Tatum doesn't tear

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00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: as Achilles, honestly, Like, I know that sounds silly, but

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Speaker 1: I think that the Magic look at it and they're like, Okay,

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00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: Paolo is gonna take a step. We like Franz, we

767
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: could not shoot at all. Let's go for it. I also,

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Speaker 1: I am not as certain. I know there's been some reporting that, oh,

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00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies, they're not making any more moves though they're

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Speaker 1: standing pat with Triple J and Jaw eh maybe and

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00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Brew and I talked of this yesterday. He's like, well,

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00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: do you really want to sell low on Jaw? And

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00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: the question is do you think this is selling low

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00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: or even because here's now the new problem with Jaw.

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00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Even if he has cleaned up everything off the court,

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00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: which I don't know if he has, but let's say

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: he has, he now has a different red flag, which

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00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: is the injury stuff. He missed a bunch of time

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00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: this year. He got hurt in the playoffs again, Like,

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00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: so you might be selling low or it might you know,

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00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: it might only feel low now compared to where he

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00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago, but will feel high

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00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: compared to where he is a year from now. So

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00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, I do think the Magic are real, a

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: real threat in the East. If Paolo takes one more

786
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: little step forward. They needed shooting, they now have shooting.

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Speaker 1: Here's my other reaction to this trade, demonse, So what's

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00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: Austin reevesworth if Desmond Bane is worth four first rounders?

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Speaker 1: Because I know KCP is a negative value contract, so

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00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe one of those first rounders was to take CACP

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00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: off their hands. So then it's three first rounders in

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00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: a swap. You also got Cole Anthony and those first

793
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: rounders are not nothing like, they're not gold. But it's

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick this year. It's a weird like triple

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Speaker 1: swap between Washington and Phoenix. Next year it'll probably it'll

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Speaker 1: will probably end up being Phoenix's first round pick next

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00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: year that should be top half of the draft, and

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00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: then unprotected Orlando twenty eight and thirty and any team's

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Speaker 1: unprotected thirty is interesting because the NBA is so crazy

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Speaker 1: because things change. So those picks aren't fake first rounders,

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Speaker 1: none of them are, like you know, an unprotected Utah

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I like, it's not, holy shit, this

803
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be a top five pick guaranteed. But they're

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Speaker 1: they're not. I would say they are good, not great

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: first rounders. And if that's what Desmond Baine gets you,

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: then is the Lakers real path to getting a center?

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00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: A three team trade where I will use Utah as

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Speaker 1: an example where Utah doesn't want Austin Reeves because they,

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00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, don't want to compete yet. But you flip

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves to a team that does want him, that

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Speaker 1: has a bunch of picks. Those picks go to Utah

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Speaker 1: and Walker Kessler goes to the Lakers. Like, if that

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Speaker 1: if Desmond Baine's worth four first round picks, Austin Reeves

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Speaker 1: worth three and a half first round picks, Like, is

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Speaker 1: it is it fair? Tell me if you disagree with

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00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: me to Monse? Is it fair to say Baine and

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00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Reeves are the same tier of player? Different players? Yeah,

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00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: but like if we're ranking players, they're within a few

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00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: spots of each other. Bain's a better defender and a

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: way better shooter. Reeves is a better shot creator and

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00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: a better driver to the basket like Bin's on four years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five million left on his deal.

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Speaker 1: Reeves has one year, thirteen million left on his deal,

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Speaker 1: which just means you're gonna have to extend him for

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Speaker 1: you know, thirty five plus million a year. Probably So

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Speaker 1: I So, I think that if Mikale Bridges goes for

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Speaker 1: five firsts and Bain goes for four firsts, then the

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Speaker 1: price of cost controlled relatively quality top fifty but not

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Speaker 1: top twenty five players has been set. Uh, And I

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Speaker 1: know it. It is a lot. And I also though,

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00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: don't I know. Listen, the Luca trade was obviously a disaster.

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00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: I get that, but people were like, you get four

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: first for Desmond Baine and one first for Luca. You

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Speaker 1: got Anthony fucking Davis with Luca.

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Speaker 2: I was just conversation with producer this morning, like I.

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Speaker 1: Don't understand, like the I'm if they wanted, I'm you

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Speaker 1: could have gotten I'm sure five first for Anthony Davis.

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: So if you're Dallas, you would have felt better if

839
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: you got six first round picks. But no, Anthony Davis

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: and Max Christy was probably worth one first round pick,

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00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: like you got two players in the deal. And so

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: KCP on his two years forty million left on his

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00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: deal is worth a negative first round pick. Cole Anthony

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Speaker 1: is probably worth just less than a first round pick.

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00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: So those two kind of cross each other out. Uh so, yeah,

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: I think the Luca trade something different entirely. All right,

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00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: let's do Kevin Durant before we get to the other stuff.

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant has preferences. He would like to be in Houston,

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Speaker 3: San Antonio, or Miami. Sham's reporter, he doesn't want to

850
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Speaker 3: be in Minnesota with his boy Mark Spears report of

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: Katie Kity wanted to go to the Knicks, but they

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: weren't interested for some reason, being said that.

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: They'll take the best deal available. How do you think think?

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: How do you think? How do you think things change

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Speaker 2: for Katie in the market so far? I'm sorry for

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00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: the mill, You're fine.

857
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bay trade impacts Kevin Durant's trade much.

858
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: They're just such. One guy's ten years younger than the other.

859
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: One guy's on a contract that you know exactly what

860
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: it is. The other guy's got a year left but

861
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: probably wants to extend. And if you trade for him,

862
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: you want to extend him, but you have to make

863
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: for two years one twenty. You got to make sure

864
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: he'll do it. You know, the Magic are taking a

865
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: long view of things. Whoever trades for Durant, you have

866
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: to feel like you can win. Right now, I just

867
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: think Houston makes the most sense. Uh. I think that

868
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Katie wants to live in the cold,

869
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: and I think that might be one of the reasons

870
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: he's not high on Minnesota. And I know every like

871
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna mock Kevin Durant for that.

872
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: I I don't know man Minnesota.

873
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I for being like, oh like, I just I

874
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: think that there's the so like in our business, right,

875
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: let me just defend Kevin. If it's true Katie doesn't

876
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: want to go to Minnesota, and it's just like I

877
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: don't want to live in Minnesota. I want to live

878
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: in Texas where I went to college, or I want

879
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: to live in Miami because that's sweet. Here's the defense

880
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: of Kevin Durant on that. Okay, in our business sports talk, right,

881
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: there's hubs in LA, hubs in New York City, and

882
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: a hub in Bristol, Connecticut. LA is also New York's awesome.

883
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Bristol Connecticut is Bristol, Connecticut. I'm not just you know,

884
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: small town and not a lot to do other than

885
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, the As Dan Patrick put it, the mothership

886
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: is there. Guess what, guys, every single person that has

887
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: found themselves with enough juice that was working in Bristol

888
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: got moved, Like every single one. Greeney wanted to be

889
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: in New York. They went to New York. Will Bond

890
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: and Corneiser were like, we're staying in DC if we're

891
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: doing the show. They did it. Levittard was like, I'll

892
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: come to you, guys, but I'm staying in Miami. They

893
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: built a thing in la Like Scott Van Pelt was like, guys,

894
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the eleven BM Sports Center. I'm gonna

895
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: be awesome at it. I'm also from Maryland. I'd like

896
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: to live there, like.

897
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: You got it.

898
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Like there's the people who have like options on this stuff.

899
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: The usually end up. Where they live is a big

900
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: part of what they use their juice for. So Kevin

901
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: Durant at the end of his career is like, man,

902
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in Minnesota. I don't And

903
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what it is or not,

904
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: but if it, everyone's like that would be ridiculous. I

905
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: don't find that ridiculous. I would like I would understand it,

906
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: and I understand Durant doesn't have, you know, a wife

907
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: and kids, but he's still got people. I'm sure, people

908
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: that you know kind of move where he moves and

909
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

910
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: Like if we're like five ten years ago, I think

911
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: it would have been crazy. I don't think crazy, but

912
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: it would be like just because of the weather man

913
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: you don't want to live in the cast, right.

914
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: Or if you would never want a championship, or if

915
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: you had been kind of an underachiever or any of

916
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: those like, but if he looks at me, it's like, man,

917
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: I think there is about as good of a chance

918
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: to win a title next year, the Cup, next couple

919
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: of years in Minnesota, San Antonio or Houston. So uh,

920
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: send me to the place that's the state I went

921
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: to college has better, whether you know is I'm more

922
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: comfortable no state taxes, whatever it is now. The Miami thing,

923
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: I would look a slight a scance at because I

924
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: just feel like you can't win. But maybe you'd be like,

925
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: it's the East, I can win. So I don't know, like,

926
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: but I think Houston should be the team that doesn't.

927
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Green plus a guy, I said Dylan Brooks.

928
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: I know other people have said Jabari Smith. I try

929
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: to keep Jabari and give Phoenix back the pick of

930
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: theirs that you have. And I think Phoenix with that

931
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: coach with if you just just think about Houston this

932
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: year with Kevin Durant, that series against the Warriors, even

933
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: place of Jalen Green was Kevin Durant. I mean that's

934
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: a that defense. Shingoon be in the hub of everything.

935
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. So I would like Houston. It

936
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: seems like some people think Scham's like body language like

937
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: told us it was the Spurs. I don't know that.

938
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm buying that. The Spurs are certainly an option. Also

939
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: the argument of hey, Katie's bad at picking his teams.

940
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: So you know, he picked the Nets, it didn't work.

941
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: He picked the Suns. It was a disaster, so you

942
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: should send him where he doesn't want to go. That

943
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: sounds good, but teams are only gonna want him if

944
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: he wants to be there, because if you trade for him,

945
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: you want to sign the extension. Okay, Demonse, you're sticking around,

946
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: are you leaving?

947
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna watch it later.

948
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna.

949
01:04:55,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: You're out of here, all right, demons out, Thank you pal.

950
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. So I am going to talk

951
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: about the Steven A. Smith Solitaire thing, but it's going

952
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: to be quite the bridge I build to get there,

953
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: and you're going to have to deal with what I'm

954
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: sure some of you will think are is a lot

955
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: of political commentary. It's not a lot, but all of

956
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: you will think is some. And so it's kind of,

957
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, got to eat your vegetables to get the

958
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: dessert at the end of the meal. But we're going

959
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: to have a real conversation for I don't know tenish

960
01:05:53,840 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: minutes here about a scary direction to me the country

961
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: is heading in which the country is heading, And I

962
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: promise I'm not being over dramatic in my view when

963
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: I say that. So I think right now, the single

964
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: biggest problem in our country is lying. I saw a

965
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: couple months ago a tweet that was like a long

966
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: form tweet talking about how we need to get back

967
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: to treating outright lies as moral degeneracy. And I've thought

968
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: about that tweet probably one hundred times since I saw it,

969
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: because I one hundred percent agree, and here's why. And

970
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: here's why I think it's important for us that we

971
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: make outright line, not shading, not presenting facts in a

972
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: way that they're most beneficial to you, but outright, bald faced,

973
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: undeniable lies need to be a subject of shame and

974
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: ridicule once again, because while a lot of people of

975
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different political stripes, for very different reasons,

976
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: feel we're in a dangerous place in this country, our

977
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: collective inability to agree upon singular truths, actual facts that

978
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: did or that, facts that are or aren't true, events

979
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,959
Speaker 1: that did or did not happen, and any a lack

980
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: of any real societal or media pressure to stay true

981
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: to objective facts, especially when we're in the midst of

982
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: a fledgling age of deep fakes and real actual fake news,

983
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: and artificial intelligence and different things that can really paw

984
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,879
Speaker 1: at our conception of reality in a way our brains

985
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: probably are not yet fully equipped to deal with. I

986
01:08:50,960 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: think as a society, our moving away from the way

987
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: debates work on. Everyone agrees what happened, but then we

988
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: argue about what should be done about it, moving to

989
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: a all of the time that should be spent arguing

990
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: about what should be done is actually spent litigating what

991
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: actually has already occurred. Is incredibly damaging and incredibly dangerous,

992
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: and it wrecks our ability to live in a collective reality.

993
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: And no matter where you stand politically on anything, this

994
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: should be scary, okay. And so that is the premise

995
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: with which I am going to explain to you why,

996
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: and eventually we will get to solitaire why I have

997
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: not talked at all about something that I personally have

998
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: found horrifying. Seems like you know about half the country

999
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: as as well, and half the country hasn't. But I

1000
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: haven't said a word about it. And that's the ice

1001
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: raids and the different things that are been happening to

1002
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 1: immigrants in this country. The reason I have not talked

1003
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: about that, and some people are like, Nick, you have platform,

1004
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: you have strong opinions, you have you know, a voice

1005
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: that matters or doesn't.

1006
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1007
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: The reason I have stayed out of that is because

1008
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: as much as I hate it and I think it's

1009
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: anathema to what America is supposed to be, and I

1010
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of it has been lawless, it is

1011
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: exactly what they said they were going to do, and

1012
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: I do believe in democracy. I don't believe that the

1013
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,520
Speaker 1: election was rigged.

1014
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: Or.

1015
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: Voting centers were hacked or anything of that nonsense. I

1016
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: think the guy who said we're gonna deport twenty million people,

1017
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: as insane as that sounded to me, and kept saying it,

1018
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: and at the rallies they had signs that said mass deportations.

1019
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Now all of it. I think that guy won as

1020
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: much as I hate it. In a way, they're just

1021
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: doing what they said they were going to do, and

1022
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: we had a contest to see if people liked that idea,

1023
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: and that you know, that guy won. So it feels

1024
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: it has felt to me a little set like almost

1025
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: sour grapesie for me, in my position, who's not a

1026
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: political commentator by trade, to talk about that a lot

1027
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: or at all, because it has felt like, well, they

1028
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: said they were going to do it, and they're doing it.

1029
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: So we can fight back against it, but we can't

1030
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: say we didn't see this coming. But I do find

1031
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: it abhorrent, and I find it so important that I

1032
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: find anyone in bed with them or aiding and abetting.

1033
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: I think the packaging of it uh to be a

1034
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: real sting and a staying on the country that I

1035
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna quickly recover from. And so

1036
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: with all that said, and with everything that's happened over

1037
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: the last few months, the thing in relation to these

1038
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: raids and deportations and the military and the streets and

1039
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: all of that that really struck a chord with me

1040
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: was not when Senator Alex Padilla got you know, kind

1041
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: of shoved and then pushed to the ground and handcuffed,

1042
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: but that the response to that, despite it being on

1043
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: video and everyone knew it was on video, the response

1044
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: was blatant line and everyone just accepted that that, oh,

1045
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:25,480
Speaker 1: of course, that the immediate message was he lunged at

1046
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: Secretary Gnome and that he quote never identified himself, and

1047
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 1: that as soon as he identified himself, he was you know, unhanded. No,

1048
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: and none of that was true, and they knew that

1049
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: none of that was true, but they said it anyway.

1050
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: And so it's not that I'm more bothered by one

1051
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: United States senator being roughed up than I am by

1052
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people being deported or anything like that.

1053
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: It's that one thing was, Hey, we're gonna do this

1054
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: if we win the election. We won the election. We're

1055
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: doing it. The other one was just fiction, and it

1056
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: was fiction that they knew. They they felt they could

1057
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: get away with because they felt that either people are

1058
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: numb to it or in an effort to both sides everything,

1059
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: folks will justify it, or they won't flatly call it

1060
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: what it was, which is degenerate line. And so when

1061
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 1: I then saw a guy who I have always really respected,

1062
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: a guy who I've always liked, a guy who I've

1063
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: always had a good relationship with, that last of which

1064
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: is sadly probably in the past tense at this point,

1065
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: but maybe not, Steven A use his massive platform to

1066
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: essentially kiss the ass of the people who were lying

1067
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: about what happened to Senator Padilla, didn't care that they

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Speaker 1: were lying about it, and abandoned any obligation, in my eyes,

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: to truth or fairness in just a relentless pursuit of

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: a bigger and bigger tent and larger and larger audience

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01:16:48,760 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: and more eyeballs. I found it just awful, And I'm like, really,

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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: your takeaway from this was he should have acted with

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Speaker 1: more decorum, which, by the way, is a fine opinion

1074
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: to have. I suppose, but everyone's takeaway, the top takeaway

1075
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: should have been they're lying and we saw it, and

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: they know we saw it, and we know they're lying,

1077
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: and they don't care. And then you saw an even

1078
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: more egregious example by the Utah Senator Mike Lee on

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: Twitter this past few days after those horrific political assassinations

1080
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, just outright lying about what happened there, and

1081
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: folks barely noticed because we've become numb to it. We

1082
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: become numb to the fact that folks with all the

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: power that we've been trusted so much society and are

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: unrepent liars. And this part, I think is important, lying

1085
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: without actually hoping to get away with it. It's not like, oh,

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: they're not gonna know, it's that they know they're gonna

1087
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: be called liars. They don't care because there is no

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: damage right now to being a liar, and they just

1089
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: want to muddy the waters enough that people can then

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: claim there's a disagreement or a debate or confusion about

1091
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: what happened, and they don't have to confront any real truth,

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01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: which oddly and hilariously brings us to Solitaire, because here

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 1: is the truth. I and I don't think many people

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: actually give a shit that stephen A was playing solitaire,

1095
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: don't I think that it was just an easy way

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: to hit a guy that they don't like. And I

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: do think it's objectively funny that it's solitaire. But he

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01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: would have been just as distracted if he was doing

1099
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: online banking or sports betting or on Twitter. The sin

1100
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: of not being locked in on the game would have

1101
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: been just as it would have been just the same,

1102
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't have been as memorable or as you know,

1103
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: just objectively funny. And so people are I think, feigning

1104
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: a bit of outrage about how awful it was that

1105
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: during a game he wasn't locked in because they don't

1106
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: like him. So and I don't really care. It's funny

1107
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: and solitaire of all the games, like if you were

1108
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: playing chess. Some people were like, oh, how about that.

1109
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: My issue is with the response because the response was

1110
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: instantaneous and easily disprovable as a lie during a time out,

1111
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: knowing he's a very smart guy, knowing uh, if someone

1112
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: took a picture, someone might have a video, they have

1113
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: a video, the court might be in it, or sound

1114
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: might be on or someone or in the picture. Everyone

1115
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: in front of me is standing. Even in the still picture,

1116
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: it sure looks like the game is going on. But

1117
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: so the response just lie because who cares. And then

1118
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: even when it's the video comes out and it's clear

1119
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: you lied, turn it into your own joke and meme

1120
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: and move on because ah the truth, you know, And

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: that actually is the lying or at least what I

1122
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: would call not as a greevous but lying to Jason

1123
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: behavior is what really caused my first tete a tet

1124
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: with steven A, which was I thought it was that's

1125
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: not lying, to be fair, but a misrepresentation of the

1126
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: Lebron stuff and a misrepresentation of what Lebron was mad about,

1127
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and a misrepresentation of you know, things that have been

1128
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: said in the past. And so here's the sad thing

1129
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: for me is I don't like I said. I I

1130
01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: have always had a really uh positive even though we've

1131
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: never worked together, a relationship with steven A. He's always

1132
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: been very kind to me. He's said nice things about

1133
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: the show. He is very tight with brew and I

1134
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: do think there are a lot of things about his

1135
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: sportscasting that are unfairly maligned, and I've said as much

1136
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: and I would imagine he probably is not gonna listen

1137
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: to this whole thing. And I don't know if you

1138
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: listen to this whole thing or just a clip, if

1139
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: it would be better or worse, But regardless, but I

1140
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: am I I am certainly not making my life easier here. Uh.

1141
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: But now that Stephen A has decided two, at this

1142
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: moment in this country, in our history, to swim in

1143
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: real political waters, and he wants to have a real

1144
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: political voice, whether or not he ever runs for office,

1145
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: which I would doubt, but I do think he will

1146
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: have real impacts when we're talking about, you know, the

1147
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: left needing a Joe Rogan and the impact of podcasts

1148
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: and media and all of it, and he is dove

1149
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: headfirst into these discussions. I think it's important that those

1150
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: people are held accountable. And I think that in a

1151
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: time where we cannot rely on the people who have

1152
01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: actual power and our elected officials to give two shits

1153
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: about what is or isn't the truth, what is or

1154
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: isn't reality, what is or isn't easily disprovable, I think

1155
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: it is.

1156
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: And you have.

1157
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: In concert with it what I would call a lot

1158
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: of very very gullible media of which I am not

1159
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: lumping stephen A in at all, who just the last

1160
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 1: thing they were told is what they believe and can

1161
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: be duped and tricked when you have those things going on,

1162
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: I think it is wildly important for people of which

1163
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I think I am. I check all these boxes. I

1164
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: think Steven A checks all these boxes. Smart, more often

1165
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 1: than not, on the right side of important things, knows

1166
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: what truth actually is, and has the ability to really

1167
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: move people with their words that those people move us

1168
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: back in a direction where we have at the very

1169
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: least a collective dedication to the truth mattering. And right

1170
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: now we're losing that one game of Solitaire at a time.

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01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: I guess talk to you guys Thursday. We'll train