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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, hour number two.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to talk with Ken Paxton,

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of Texas, at the bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 1: and then in the third hour Amber.

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Speaker 2: Smith Buck she's got a good book that is out

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Speaker 2: right to break down on wokeness. Ambers an old friend.

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Speaker 2: She was a Kiowa combat pilot in Afghanistan, worked under

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Speaker 2: the Trump Department of Defense as an official, and wrote

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Speaker 2: a book called Danger Close. Now she's got a new

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Speaker 2: book out about wokeness in the military. She says, a

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Speaker 2: badass lady. You haven't met Ambers. She's cool.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think I have. So

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Speaker 1: we will talk with them as well today. Okay, another

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Speaker 1: poll out this morning, Battleground Pole. It says a lot

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Speaker 1: of what many.

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Speaker 2: Of these polls are saying.

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Speaker 1: And so let me read the latest numbers to all

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Speaker 1: of you as a prelude to this discussion. Trump was

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Speaker 1: held in contempt of court today one thousand dollars per

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Speaker 1: contempt of court violation. That adds up to a total

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Speaker 1: of nine thousand dollars. I'll get to merchand reacting the

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Speaker 1: judge in this case to that here in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But these numbers that came out early this morning, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hit them all for you here. Arizona Trump is

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Speaker 1: up four, Georgia Trump is up three. These are the

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Speaker 1: seven battleground states. This is according to Emerson and the Hill.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Trump up to, Pennsylvania, Trump up to, North Carolina

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Speaker 1: Trump up five, Nevada Trump up one, Michigan Trump up one. Overall,

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Speaker 1: when you add in a lot of third party candidates,

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Speaker 1: Trump's lead either stays the same or grows a bit.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is all seven swing states were effectively six months

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Speaker 1: until the election. As we sit here talking to all

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Speaker 1: of you right now, it appears that the idea of

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Speaker 1: lawfare is going to unless something unexpected occurs. There's only

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Speaker 1: going to be one case that actually goes to a

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Speaker 1: jury before you are all able to go vote on

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Speaker 1: November fifth, and that one is New York City. They

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Speaker 1: have odds gambling odds up on a site called poly Market,

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Speaker 1: which I love checking. They basically allow you to wager

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Speaker 1: on anything buck to give you an idea. According to

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Speaker 1: their website, they've taken one hundred and seventeen million dollars

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Speaker 1: so far in bets on who is going to be

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Speaker 1: the presidential election winner, and right now, forty four percent

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Speaker 1: say Trump, forty four percent say Biden. At poly market

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Speaker 1: dead even you can bet on whether you think that

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Speaker 1: Trump will be convicted or not. According to this gambling market,

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Speaker 1: there is an eighty percent chance that he will be

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Speaker 1: found guilty of at least one felony in New York.

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Speaker 1: That feels roughly accurate to me that there's about a

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Speaker 1: twenty percent chance that there will either be a not

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Speaker 1: guilty verdict or not a guilty verdict that is a mistrial,

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Speaker 1: that is a hung jury something in that neighborhood. But

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Speaker 1: I think as you look at all these numbers and

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Speaker 1: now that we're effectively to May, I said for a

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Speaker 1: while Buck that to me, I want to know where

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Speaker 1: this race is Memorial Day, because that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: start of summer. I think a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: tune out. You guys know what I'm talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: June and July, a lot of vacations into early August.

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Speaker 1: I know that the Republican National Convention will be happening then,

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Speaker 1: and so will the DNC. But I think your average person,

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Speaker 1: not your diehard political junkie, like many of you, are

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Speaker 1: who are listening. They tune out, They got kids, they

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Speaker 1: got grandkids, Summer break, you're on vacation, you're traveling. If Biden,

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Speaker 1: these numbers are still where they are at Memorial Day,

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Speaker 1: and so far nothing has really changed for months. I

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Speaker 1: think there's going to be a full on panic that

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Speaker 1: starts to set in in the Democrat Party because remember,

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Speaker 1: they are spending a lot of money in the Swing

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Speaker 1: States trying to elevate Trump. Trump's not spending very much.

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Speaker 1: They got their trial that's underway right now. It seems

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Speaker 1: to if anything be breaking in Trump's favor, how much

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Speaker 1: panic do you think there is as we sit here

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Speaker 1: on the eve of May and Trump is I think

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Speaker 1: according to every poll they could be wrong. It's always

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Speaker 1: worth saying, but basically, according to every poll, Trump's in

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we would have expected to be having

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Speaker 2: one point, or at least they always it was always

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Speaker 2: we have to see this for what it is. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is out ahead of Joe Biden. That's not surprising

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Speaker 2: when you look at what's going on, and I think

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Speaker 2: that it's not like a sexy news story. It's not

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Speaker 2: all the clicks, the persistent inflation issue. It sounds nerdy.

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Speaker 2: this persists, I think, the more the frustration builds up.

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Speaker 2: Also with hot with high prices. You know, these these

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Speaker 2: if they don't understand necessarily all of the the you know,

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Speaker 2: microeconomic mechanisms that are putting the stuff in place. It's

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Speaker 2: the long way of saying the economy is not what

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Speaker 2: it should be. Everyone sort of knows that, whether they're

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Speaker 2: have been out of the pandemic. Play like a rocket ship.

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Speaker 2: It should have been. I was concerned, I remember I

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Speaker 2: early days of Biden that, oh my gosh, all he

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Speaker 2: not mess everything up. Because you know, Pelosi's trying to

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Speaker 2: say Trump destroyed all the jobs because of COVID. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not gonna fly. But if everything's awesome. People don't

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Speaker 2: care if it's not you that's making them awesome. You know,

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Speaker 2: We should be an economy that is just flying, and

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Speaker 2: instead we're just being ground down. The people being ground

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Speaker 2: trying to get ahead. They can't because the government is

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Speaker 2: eroding the dollars that they are being paid and raising

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Speaker 2: White House, a dollar was worth a dollar February twenty

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Speaker 2: because of the massive inflation that all of us have experienced.

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Speaker 2: I know you feel it, but that reference, everybody's dollar

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Speaker 2: That explains why your dollar is not going as far.

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Speaker 2: It's not your imagination. Every time you go through the

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Speaker 1: Every time you take your kids or your grandkids to

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Speaker 2: Hold on, quick pause, your ultimate go to Chinese or

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Speaker 2: you get one entree or appetizer, but you get one thing.

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Speaker 2: What is it for you?

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Speaker 1: What is changed because I'm trying to eat. It's a

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Speaker 2: So what about you General So's chicken? I could I

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Speaker 1: This is our neighborhood Chinese place. It was me and him.

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Speaker 1: We had one tan soup I'm getting full disclosure. One

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Speaker 1: toon soup and also some egg rolls, right, but not

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Speaker 2: You didn't have my agresso martini with your egg roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no alcohol involved, I think because I'm a redneck.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look this, it's possible because the price of

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Speaker 2: Trump spent trillions of dollars in his last year, so

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Speaker 2: this doesn't hit his hard. Biden's was just completely gratuitous.

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Speaker 2: and then when I spend five trillion more. You know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I lived the life as an adult of somebody who

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Speaker 2: was spending you know, sixty percent. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: And inflation is a tax that is most often born

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into play and fuck. We've got some calls.

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Speaker 1: Through maybe more than almost anyone lawfair of an unprecedented degree,

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I was literally just talking

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Speaker 2: Mere General Paxson. Thanks for being with us. What do

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Speaker 5: So I'm not necessarily part of their legal strategy. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's a big difference between exercising your First

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Speaker 5: and say what they believe. It's a free country and

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Speaker 5: we have a first Amendment. But when you start threatening

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Speaker 5: other people and you start causing harm to other people,

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Speaker 5: you should be arrested for that harm. And that's not

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Speaker 5: happening in this center.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: There's a report out and I don't know if you've

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Speaker 1: gotten this report yourself or if you have some idea

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Speaker 1: of it, but this is Lily Kepner.

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Speaker 2: I shared this on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: A source at University of Texas Austin tells me. Of

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Speaker 1: the seventy seven arrests at yesterday's protest, forty six or

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Speaker 1: not Texas students. I believe that's around sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: the arrests not Texas students. When you see these protests

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Speaker 1: happening all over the place, and you see a lot

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Speaker 1: of these green pup tents suddenly emerge all over the

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Speaker 1: place as well, a lot of our listeners, a lot

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Speaker 1: of us think there's a lot of money being put

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Speaker 1: behind this. These are not oftentimes college kids. If these

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Speaker 1: numbers are accurate at Texas, how much of this is

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Speaker 1: a nationwide issue? And should there be an investigation into

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Speaker 1: who's funding these protests and how these all came about,

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Speaker 1: because it sure feels very organized that this would suddenly

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Speaker 1: emerge so rapidly so many different places.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it reminds me very much of what happened

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Speaker 5: when we had a Blum protests and Antifa protests. As

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Speaker 5: we well know now, many of these people are being

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Speaker 5: paid to come into different cities and states to do

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Speaker 5: the protests. They weren't just organic protests. So yeah, I'd

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Speaker 5: love to know what's going on. I'd love to know

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Speaker 5: who's behind these What I would call non organic protests

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Speaker 5: that are being organized by somebody in a central location.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to Attorney General Ken Paxton of State of Texas

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Speaker 2: AG for the State of Texas, do you think that

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Speaker 2: these protests are likely to continue on in the places

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Speaker 2: that they seem to have, at least so far, had

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Speaker 2: the greatest residence. I mean to me, as it gets warmer,

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Speaker 2: especially in places like New York and DC, these people

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Speaker 2: have no incentive other than to continue on what they're doing. Right,

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Speaker 2: they seem to love the attention. Maybe they don't love

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Speaker 2: the pepper spray, but they love the attention.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I think it depends on how we treat

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Speaker 5: it in individual locations. I think if you watched what

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Speaker 5: happened with b l M and Antifa, Eventually you know

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Speaker 5: it went away, but it had a dramatic impact on

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Speaker 5: some of our cities. I've seen, you know, I saw

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Speaker 5: a lot of businesses shut down. I've seen you know,

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Speaker 5: hotels shut down. So I don't in the long run,

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Speaker 5: if we don't address it, the places that don't address it,

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Speaker 5: they end up suffering the greatest consequences of negative consequences

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Speaker 5: for not dealing with real issues that affect business and commerce.

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Speaker 5: And People's Safety.

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton with us. He's with

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Speaker 1: Trump tell by President Trump that Bucking Clay say hi,

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Speaker 1: and that we need to get him on the show

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 5: By the way, when you go back in phone and

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Speaker 5: I'm going to go say that to him.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So you also are filing a lawsuit regarding Title nine.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a big sports fan, Buck, and I

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Speaker 1: watched the Texas Alabama game a couple of years with

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Speaker 1: you down in Austin the idea, and I'm sure you're

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Speaker 1: like me, you can't believe that this is the world

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Speaker 1: we're in where I'm sure you saw out kick asked

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Speaker 1: Don Staley, Hey, should men be able to identify as

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Speaker 1: women and play women's sports?

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Speaker 2: And she said yes.

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Speaker 1: And now the Biden administration basically has endorsed Don Staley's

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Speaker 1: perspective with their new Title nine law application. What are

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Speaker 1: you trying to do to ensure that men don't get

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Speaker 1: to identify as women and dominate women's sports and also

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Speaker 1: frankly use women's locker rooms and take over places that

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Speaker 1: otherwise would belong to women.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty clear what Congress intended here. They designed

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Speaker 5: Title nine to protect women's sports, to give women an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to compete, to have resources, you know, go to them,

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Speaker 5: allocated and dedicated to women's sports. As as a father

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Speaker 5: of three daughters now women, you know, I thought it

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Speaker 5: was it ended up being a great deal for my daughters.

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Speaker 5: Here we have a choice. And that's just the opposite.

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Speaker 5: They're rewriting law about going through Congress and changing the

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Speaker 5: allocation to men to compete against women, which is one

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Speaker 5: unfair and two is a violation of federal law and

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Speaker 5: the violation of his ability. He's not allowed in the constitution,

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Speaker 5: I'd say him, Joe Biden, He's not allowed to just

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Speaker 5: change the law. These are laws put in place by

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Speaker 5: elected representatives. So we're assuming him because we don't think

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Speaker 5: he has the authority to do this. If Congress did it,

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Speaker 5: it'd be a different story.

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Speaker 2: Turning, General Paxton, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much, sir.

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Speaker 2: that I get ready for what's coming his way. He

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Speaker 2: made a little offhand remark about a Cajun accent, and

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Speaker 2: now our inbox is full of people that are saying

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Speaker 2: the following. Damon writes, Clay, that's not a Cajun accent.

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Speaker 2: That caller Sam from Louisa, Louisiana had it is a

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Speaker 2: classic New Orleans accent, which is often mistaken for a

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Speaker 2: New York accent by people from outside New Orleans. So

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Speaker 2: I think the Cajun accent is like, uh oh, here

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Speaker 2: we go. I'm gonna get banned from all Cajun sounding areas.

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Speaker 2: I got it on Tea more Alligata in du Bayou, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: isn't that good?

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Speaker 1: That's pretty happy? We got a ton of these. I

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Speaker 1: will say, here's some others. That wasn't a yeah. Aj

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Speaker 1: aj says that wasn't a Cajun accent. That was a

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Speaker 1: New Orleans ninth Ward or chowmation Yat accent. Wayne says,

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Speaker 1: well no though, Okay, so people are fired up about.

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Speaker 1: Wayne had something else he was fired up about. I

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Speaker 1: have never, in my life ever done anything in media

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Speaker 1: where people are more obsessed with pronunciation and grammar than

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Speaker 1: this show. I've done radio now for what almost twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that I've ever gotten a grammar

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Speaker 1: or pronunciation email. This audience is obsessed with grammar and pronunciation.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just that I'm a total hicck. Although

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Speaker 1: literally I just got this email. It's hard to believe

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Speaker 1: you graduated from law school. And speak like a hick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Neil for that email, But I'm honest about this.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. And Ali, you want

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Speaker 1: to come up here. You say this was an obsession.

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Speaker 1: Rush got these emails all the time from people complaining

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Speaker 1: about pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: We now we need someone to call in. Who's who's

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Speaker 2: who is willing to just admit that they have like

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Speaker 2: a full on like I go fishing for all to

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Speaker 2: crawl dad into swamp like a real We need a

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Speaker 2: real Cajun accent.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: To compare this.

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Speaker 1: To by the way, criticizing me for not distinguishing correctly

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Speaker 1: between New Orleans and Cajun accent, that's a pretty close

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Speaker 1: geographic area. I would think there's probably a decent overlap

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Speaker 1: there a little bit. I get lit up all the

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Speaker 1: time by people who say, I think some of some

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Speaker 1: of you think I sound like I'm from New York.

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Speaker 1: But people say that I don't have a New York accent,

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Speaker 1: and I always have to tell them no, New York

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Speaker 1: has many accents even within the city.

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Speaker 2: Like think of England. People who really know England know

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Speaker 2: there are Liverpool accents, Birmingham accents, a Newcastle, London Cockney

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Speaker 2: there's all these it's not that big of a place,

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Speaker 2: and they've got like dozens of regional accents that that

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Speaker 2: are very interesting. I mean, livpoo, I mean you listen

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Speaker 2: to the Beatles and listen to like Hugh Grant sounds

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Speaker 2: very different. I have a Manhattan accent, but what they

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Speaker 2: think of as a New York accident, and much of

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Speaker 2: the country would be more of a Queens Long Island

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Speaker 2: and even Staten Island accent regionally speaking. And this, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a thing. I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 2: just the way it is so Clay, I'm sorry that

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Speaker 2: you're you're getting lit up by the by the Cajuns

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Speaker 2: and they arranging at you.

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Speaker 6: Clay Rush would lean into it. We had a whole

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Speaker 6: list of funny words that people would correct him on.

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Speaker 6: And where you guys are going this week? I can't

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Speaker 6: even say it, but he had a funny wave, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to Louisville. But that's the way that

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Speaker 1: I would pronounce it in the South. But so Ali,

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Speaker 1: this was like do you think this is just a

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Speaker 1: natural derivation of Rush refusing to pronounce the things the

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Speaker 1: way people wanted. And it's grown from there because I'm

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Speaker 1: not lying. I have never heard such an obsession with

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Speaker 1: pronunciation and with grammar from any audience anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Else in all of media.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Rush just stoked it and grew it

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Speaker 1: like because you've been with him? You were with Rush

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. Do you saw this all the time too?

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Speaker 6: I saw it all the time, and I just assumed

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Speaker 6: this is how it was on every radio show.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I asked you during the

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Speaker 1: break Bok, because you did evenings on many of these

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Speaker 1: same stations, did you get those emails before you were.

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Speaker 2: With me on this show. I mean, look, it's a

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Speaker 2: small percentage that are you know, there's so many people

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Speaker 2: that write into to be so nice and supportive. Some

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Speaker 2: people are a little bit like the sticklers for grammar.

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Speaker 2: We get grammar sticklers and we get pronunciation sticklers. But that's,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're just trying to help. They're trying to

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Speaker 2: help in their own way.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee I never have seen anything like it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of fascinated by because I'm thinking, is

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Speaker 1: it a conservative radio thing? Is it because sports? I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just if you can read a score correctly,

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Speaker 1: like the standard for what your speech patterns are going

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Speaker 1: to be a relatively low But Kamala Harris can't talk,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden can't talk.

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Speaker 2: George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush wasn't exactly the most gifted speaker on the planet.

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of poor communicators elected president of

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Speaker 1: the United States, regardless of politics.

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Speaker 2: You have to maintain a very high, very high standard here.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've got very big shoes we're filling here

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Speaker 2: trying to and we've got to maintain a very high stand.

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Speaker 2: I welcome, I welcome the critiques as long as they're

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Speaker 2: directed at Clay. I think it's fantastic. So send it

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Speaker 2: as many critical emails of pronunciation, just make sure you

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Speaker 2: address it Clay at the top, and we'll make sure

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Speaker 2: we get it all fixed. In the meantime. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for us to the top of the next hour,

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Speaker 2: buck Man, I wanted to dive into the luget out

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Speaker 2: moment between Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump, and I think

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Speaker 2: this is a symbol of good things to come with

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Speaker 2: GOP unity. I think it's starting.

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Speaker 1: Hum buy yah, you buy into the Kumbai Yab moment.

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Speaker 1: You think that DeSantis and Trump and their supporters they're

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Speaker 1: all coming together in one big happen I can't speak

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Speaker 1: to everybody in terms of where supporters are going to

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Speaker 1: be on this one, but I just remember saying, we

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Speaker 1: know this about Trump. If you there's always room on

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Speaker 1: the Trump train, if you're trying to help it get

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Speaker 1: to the right destiny. He allows everybody on the train,

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Speaker 1: even those who have tried to divert the train. Perhaps,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk about DeSantis Trump. I love seeing these

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Speaker 1: two working in the same direction.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss