1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Sean made my dream come true when he named me 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Executive vice President of Football Operations. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: That's a guy I want to be in the bunker with. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, his passion for the Jaguars, his support that 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: he shows right off the bat. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's contagious. Tony taking over. His EVP impacts 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: not only the coach, but also impacts the front office. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: So look, he's in a very important and prominent role. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: There's some real, real wisdom to support and you know, 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: security when you're with him. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. That's all I care about. 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: James Glabs though, and Lamb cou and pom success. Tony 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: was born per this. 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: Welcome into a new venture we're starting on Jaguars Media. 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: We're calling it the EVP Podcast. As you can imagine 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: from the title, the podcast is Executive vice President of 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Football Operations. A long title there, Tony Bcelli and Tony, 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: First of all, thanks for doing this. I think I 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: look forward to doing this as a way to have 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: fans get to know your insight football on off the field. 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for doing I'm looking forward to This'd be great. 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: It'd be good to kind of get caught up on 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: a regular basis and make sure our fans understand how 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: we're thinking about things and how we're going to do 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: things here at the Jacksonville Jaguars and the plan to 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: build a winning culture, winning organization and ultimately reached the 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: goal that we all have and that's the winner super Bowl. 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to come up for air 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: and realize this is really yet? 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: This weekend was the first time getting back from the combine. 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: This was the first time since I took the role. 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: I guess my. 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Official start day was February first, but was working a 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: little bit before that. This was the first time that 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: I spent a couple of days not doing a lot 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: of Jaguar stuff. Got back, I played golf for the 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: first time on Saturday morning. 39 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: That was nice. 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: It was good to get out there, and then took 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: some time at the house just to get a lay 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: of the land again because it was a sprint once. 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I took the job. 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: But as I've told everyone, John, I mean, you know, 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: it's not work if you love doing it right, and 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: it has not felt like one day of work yet. 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: And while you're on that topic, I know when we 48 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: talked a little beforehand, talk about Angie support so far. 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, she had to be a big thing. It was 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: a lifestyle choice. 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: It was well, it was interesting because most people probably 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: don't know because the most interaction they had with me 53 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: was what I did with the Jaguars as far as 54 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: on game day doing the radio and then the show 55 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: on Monday night. But what they probably didn't know, I 56 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: was running a company in San Francisco that entire time, 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: so it was already a heavy work schedule, a lot 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: of travel. The good thing was when I was home, 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I was home working from the house, so I got 60 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: to spend more time with Angie and our one daughter, Angley, 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: who's left at the house. This is a little bit different, 62 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: so different work hours, leaving the every day. And obviously 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: she knows me and as we talked about it when 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Shod presented the opportunity, which was an amazing opportunity, really 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: a dream come true. First person I thoughd to was 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: her because it was going to change a little bit 67 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of our cadence as a family and now you're 68 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: married to the NFL calendar. That's just the way it 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: works in the NFL. And she also knew that. She's like, listen, 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: you're going to go over the top and everything you 71 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean shocking for anyone who knows me. 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: So we sat down, had a long conversation, and so 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: she was all in and because listen, we'll be married 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: thirty years this year, and there's nothing that happens in 75 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: that household unless her and I are on the same page. 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: It's just how we've operated our entire lives, our whole 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: married lives. And so her being bought in and being 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: as excited as I was about it was important for me. 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: Probably my favorite quote that I've heard about you since 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: all this started was when Shad said he was born 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: to do this, and. 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: That really resonated. 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: I thought that for a couple of years in our conversations, 84 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: just different stuff. I'm curious if you feel that way. 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Hall of Fame left tackle going to 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: play football, yeah. 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: But this feels it's always just felt right to me. 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: So I've had a lot of jobs in my life, 89 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: in jobs I loved, I love. I've been in healthcare 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: for a decade plus now we're running companies and enjoyed 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: every second of it. But this is the second job 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't feel like a job. The first one was 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a player and Obviously that was my dream growing up 94 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. This is the second dream job 95 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that I've ever had, and whether I hope I was 96 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: born to do it, I shoh, it's right because that 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: means that we're going to have success and that I 98 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: can do my role effectively. 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Which is just a piece of the piece of the puzzle. 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Obviously, Liam is our head coach, is you know, critical, 101 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: because all that matters is you've heard me say this, 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: You'll hear me continue to say this is all that 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: matters is what happens on the grass because that's ultimately 104 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: what we're all defined by. In which I love about 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's very immediate response, like Sunday happens you 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: had success or not, and the season you're evaluated based 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: on wins in law, and ultimately only one team gets 108 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: to really feel like, hey, we were successful this year. 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: And adding Liam and then James over the last week 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: as the GM. 111 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: You know, you got two guys there that I have. 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Supreme confidence in that they're going to help lead this 113 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: organization to where we wanted to be and both have 114 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: obviously significant roles, and I have my role to support 115 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and to make sure that we continue to do things 116 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: the right way as an organization, and the three of 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: us will be responsible for that and figuring this thing 118 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: out and making sure we're creating a winning culture, winning 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: team and doing things the right way. 120 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: So Jaguars Happy Hour with Pete Prisco is all work. 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 2: That was work. That was work. If you know Pete. 122 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Spending any time with Pete's work, I was at the 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: combine with it was work. 124 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: Now, Pete's a great print. I'll miss that. 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite things I did every 126 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: week during the season is two hours with Pete and 127 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: JP and and kind of reviewing the game and talking 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: about the state of the organization from our perspective. It 129 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: was a different perspective if I had though, because I 130 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: was outside the building and a lot of respects as 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: it should be. 132 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: I mean that role. 133 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: I was part of the media, internal media, but still 134 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: the media, and what we did there was evaluate what 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: we saw on the field and what we knew and 136 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: kind of like what I like to say is we 137 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: call balls and strikes from the stands. 138 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Right. 139 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: I am now in a much different role, have different responsibilities, 140 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: and I think as our fans tune into this and 141 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: other opportunities to hear us talk about what we're doing 142 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: with the organization. Obviously it's going to be through the 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: lens of understanding it from a different perspective now and 144 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: what we're trying to achieve. So but still want to 145 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: communicate to our fans of what we're doing and how 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: we think about things and how decisions are made and 147 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: why we make certain decisions right. 148 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: Hopefully this forum will be able to do that. A 149 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: little bit impossible. Question is there's too many details, but 150 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: as as well as possible outline the process from maybe 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: that last Jaguars Happy Hour until EVP. Yeah, I know 152 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: it's got to be thumbnail because. 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: But I was going to say how long is the podcast? 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Was a We're gonna do a three hour to you know, 155 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan type podcast here. 156 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Because it's a long story, and I think it really 157 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: goes back to it's been in the I don't want. 158 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: To say it's been in the work for years, but 159 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Shod and I've had different conversations over the years, and 160 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: and I wanted to always play the role that Shad 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Mark lamping the leadership of this organization, felt I could 162 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: play the best help us move the ball down the field, 163 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: and so We've always I've had a great relationship with Shod. 164 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: He's someone I respect him mentally. I mean his obviously, 165 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: everyone knows the story of how he got to where 166 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: he is, and I felt like I've could I've always 167 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: felt like I could learn a lot from him, and 168 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: so spending time with him, with Mark Lamping was always 169 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: really important to me. 170 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: And then when this opportunity came. 171 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: It kind of happened after the last game of the 172 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: season against the Colts, when that was done and Shot 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: and made the decision that he was going to move 174 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: on from Doug Peterson and that staff, him and I 175 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: had a conversation. He asked me, he said, hey, I'm 176 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: thinking about this as a possible role. 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. 178 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: After the coaching search gets done, and would you help 179 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes initially in the coaching search. 180 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: And I said, absolutely, anything I can do to help. 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: And so we went through that process, and I think 182 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: everyone knows the story by now, you know. I think 183 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: it was a Tuesday morning it came out that Liam 184 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: wasn't going to come in for the in person interview. 185 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: A couple hours later or so, it was announced that 186 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Shot had decided to part ways. With Trent Balky, and 187 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: at that point I became more involved in the coaching 188 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: search and we went through it and you know, we've 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: talked about this at length about Liam, and it was 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: clear to me that Liam was the right guy to 191 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: lead this team without a doubt, and obviously that's how 192 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Sean felt in the rest of the group that was 193 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: going part of that process. After that, in after the 194 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: press conference that Monday, Sead gave me a call and said, hey, 195 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: this is what I'm thinking about executive vice president Football Operations. 196 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Went through the kind of the specifics of the role 197 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: with the relationship, you know, all the terms and all 198 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, which was pretty easy, pretty straightforward, 199 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: and I when he called me, I sat and listened 200 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, there's a party that just wants 201 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: to say yes right away. 202 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: Sure, But the other part. 203 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: Of me said, you know, I have a responsibility this 204 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: company I'm running. We just got done raising a bunch 205 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: of money from a couple of large venture capitalist firms, 206 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and I also need to talk to my wife. So 207 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I asked it I'd go kind of twenty four hours 208 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: to kind of talk about this, and he, typical Shod, 209 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: was gracious and said absolutely, let's talk tomorrow. So have 210 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: the conversation on the business side with the CEO and 211 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: founder of the company, a couple of one of the 212 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: board members, and then had a long conversation with Angie 213 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: and then the next day called Shad and said let's 214 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: do it. And that kind of kicked off the process 215 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: and from it was kind of hit the ground running immediately. 216 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: Well you're already doing it in a way. 217 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was already doing some of it, and then 218 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: now it was official. So started working with. 219 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Liam and you know, you get a sense of who 220 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: people really are, you know, because it's one thing to say, 221 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, talk about communication and collaboration in an interview, 222 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: but you could see immediately that's really who Liam is. 223 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: And brought me in and helped wherever I could in 224 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: him getting his coaching staff put together. 225 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: He was doing a great job. 226 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: I think he put together a world class or coaching staff. 227 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: You know how hard that is for a first time 228 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: coach to get that, because it's not like you just 229 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: get a pick whoever you want. 230 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: Because it's fast and you're trying to deal with contracts. 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Or under contracts and you have to that's permission is 232 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: it's a tough process and Liam did a great job there. 233 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: But then we immediately went into the GM search, and 234 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: that GM search, we wanted to. 235 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Do that the right way. Yeah, a process for that 236 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: big process. Give a lot of credit to Mark Lamping. 237 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: He really could. Because I was brand new in the role, 238 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: he would already had already been thinking about it. He 239 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of brought me into the loop how they were 240 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: thinking about got my input. I thought they pretty much 241 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: had it ticked and tied really tightly, really good process. 242 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you know, you're looking at 243 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: fifty hours of interviews, right, you know, thirty of them. 244 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: And that's just the interviews. That's not the talking afterward. 245 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: That's not to talking after that's not the background, that's 246 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, we're still trying to get some of the coaches, 247 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: the final coaches done, so you're you're juggling a lot 248 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: of people's times and calendars and it's a lot of work. 249 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: So we went through that process virtual first. We had 250 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: a you know, a number of people involved in that. 251 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: I thought it was really it was done well and 252 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of people's buying, which is important for me. 253 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: And then we did the in person where Sean came 254 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: in and we had five in person, and that was 255 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: an intense few days. 256 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: You have four hour interviews. You're diving deep. 257 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: And we got through that next thing, you know, at 258 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: the combine, I mean and you look up and it's March, right, 259 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, well that was a fast month. 260 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: I mean here we got you get to relax. 261 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Or in free agency, yeah, I mean nothing big coming up, 262 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: just free agency coming up and everyone's running around trying 263 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: to get that we have. You know, you have to 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: look at your roster first and foremost, and then you 265 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: have to overlay. You know, none of these things can 266 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: be done in the vacuum, at least I don't believe 267 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: if you want to be successful. So you have to 268 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: look at current roster, what's gonna be available in free agency, 269 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: which is an ever moving target because you have guys 270 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: who are gonna get released at the league year and then, 271 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: but you want to make sure you marry that up 272 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: with what's in the draft and where's the draft deep? 273 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: What's your draft strategy? You know, what kind of gaps 274 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and holes do you want to fill? And so there's 275 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, and you got to 276 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of be very coordinated and strategic be as you 277 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: think through it. 278 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: Do you see uh, your role right now? Do you 279 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: see it evolving changing over time in terms of influence 280 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: on the field, in terms of just the conversations. I 281 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: assume as as James and Liam get more comfortable, you 282 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: guys will know what each part. 283 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 4: Needs to do. 284 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it will always evolve. 285 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea today what that means, to be 286 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: quite honest. I mean, I think it's what we have, 287 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: What shot is laid out, and what we have all 288 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: kind of stacked hands on is very clear. I mean, 289 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Liam is the head football coach, while all three of 290 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: us are you know, all report to shod as I 291 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: like to say, is we're gonna be head coach centric 292 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: and so Liam's kind of call it first among equals. 293 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: But he's responsible for what happens on the grass, his staff, 294 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, set in the culture. He's going to be 295 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: the voice of this building and that's a non negotiable. Obviously, 296 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: James is the GM player acquisition, player disposal, so think 297 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: of that as free agency called draft trades, cuts all 298 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: those things, and obviously working very tightly with the head 299 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: coach and understanding because You've got to make sure you 300 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: understand what how the type of football that Liam wants 301 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: to play, and Grant as though see in camp as 302 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: our decoordinator, and so that'll be a very close collaboration. 303 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: And then my job is to overseeing all the supporting 304 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: staff and so you know, and James and I've talked 305 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: about it. Our job together is to make sure Liam 306 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: and his staff and our players have everything they need 307 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: to be successful because it goes back to the main thing, 308 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: and that's on the field. And I think the simplest 309 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: way without getting into a bunch of minutia to view 310 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: me and my role is I'm the offensive lineman and 311 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: that's what I've always been to this organization. 312 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: My job is to block, protect the quarterback, open. 313 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: Up holes, and to help move the ball down the 314 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: field so that somebody else can spike in the end 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: zone and have success. And that's how we're going to 316 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: approach this. Everything we do, the three of us will 317 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: sit down and talk through big strategic decisions and everything else. 318 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: But I have the utmost confidence and James to build 319 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: our roster and the utmost confidence in Liam to build 320 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: a winning football team and call ball plays on. 321 00:14:54,200 --> 00:15:03,479 Speaker 3: Sunday as in a few sentences, what about Liam deal Love, Well. 322 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with the x's and o's. 323 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just turn on the tape and look what 324 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: he's done everywhere he's been and highlighted last year top 325 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: five offense, top five and rushing top five and passing 326 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and what people forget probably I think it was six 327 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: or seven games he'd have two of the best receivers. 328 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: In football and he was still a fake personnel. 329 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Change, big personnel change did with a rookie running back, 330 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: really a rookie center, rebuilt that offensive line. They were 331 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: thirty second in the league the year before in rushing. 332 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Just an outstanding job coaching. So that's so that's on 333 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: the offensive side, But being a head coach is more 334 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: than that. And so I think what's really jumped out, 335 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: what jumped out of me, jumped out at me during 336 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the interview and has been confirmed, is just the overall 337 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: leadership that he possesses, his ability to. 338 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Communicate, and that's the job more than play call, and 339 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: that is the job. 340 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: And he has the ability, he has strong convictions of 341 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: how he wants it to look. He's able to communicate 342 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: that clearly and very concisely, which is really important. And 343 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: he has a presence about him, and you know sometimes 344 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: those leadership qualities you just don't know until you see him, 345 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and they're the intangibles, and he has that ability. So 346 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, and then if you kind of 347 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: wrap that all up with a lot of energy, I mean, 348 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: this is a guy who has some energy. Now he's 349 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's going to go and so I'm 350 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: really excited with what he's gonna be able to do 351 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: for this organization. 352 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Same question about James. 353 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, Liam and I joked around. He raised the IQ 354 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: of the front office quite a bit. Now some would 355 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: say with me and there it's a low bar, but 356 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: at least he raised it. He but he not only 357 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: has a very high IQ, he has what I would 358 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: say is a very high EQ. His understanding how to communicate, 359 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: how to bring people along is really impressive and I 360 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: think you really got that in. 361 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: The virtual interviews. 362 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is a smart individual and 363 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: this is a guy who knows how to communicate and 364 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: build teams. It was clear about that. What really was 365 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: impressive during the in person was his evaluation of the roster. 366 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: He's a real talent evaluator. 367 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: So stuff he was saying lined up with what you've 368 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: been seeing. 369 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 370 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, just like you can see why the Rams 371 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: have had success the last couple of years as him 372 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: leading the college draft process for them and then him 373 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: taking us through and how he thinks about it. He 374 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: has a very high capacity to take in a lot 375 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: of different information, correlate that information, make sense of it, 376 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: and then kind of deliver it and make decisions. 377 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: And that's about his key thing for a GM he 378 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: can have because you have to communicate it all. 379 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's not just enough. It's not enough 380 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: just to be adept in evaluating. But now how do 381 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: you take that information and communicate it to the rest 382 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: of the constituents in the. 383 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: Building, Because there's a lot of constituents, a lot. 384 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: Of constituents, and he does a great job. So I 385 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: could not be more excited about where we sit today. 386 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: And listen, John, you've been around the league for a 387 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: long time. You're not gonna win any games today, but you. 388 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: Sure can lose some games. You know. 389 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: It's we're sitting here in March, you know, call this 390 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: phase one of this journey we're on. And I think 391 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: we've won phase one and that's great, but it doesn't 392 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna have success. And I think what we 393 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: want to do this offseason is continue to win each 394 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: phase of this journey so that when we get on 395 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: the grass, we are ready to go execute. 396 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: And have success. 397 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: And we don't want to We don't want to do 398 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: anything that puts us behind the eight ball. And I 399 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: think so far we've done a great job. A lot 400 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: of credit to both James and Liam jumping in into 401 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: the deep end right away and getting to work immediately. 402 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: Can you feel there was so much talk with the 403 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: combine about the synergy, talk about the north star of 404 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: the Rams. In fact, they've been around each other and 405 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: around the same thing. Do you feel that and if so, 406 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: is there an example of how you feel it? 407 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think one of the things 408 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: that's been good is there's a little bit. 409 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: They're comfortable because they had a relationship before. 410 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time in completely different roles when 411 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: they knew each other before. Sure, I mean Liam was 412 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: a start off as a position coach, came back as 413 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: the OC. James has had several roles in the organization. 414 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: I can't tell you exactly what stage he was at 415 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: when Liam was there. 416 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: I think he was a director of scouting strategy. He 417 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: is close, but not the guy. 418 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So that's one relationship when they are 419 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: in the rams. This is a completely different relationship. Now 420 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: now they are the three of us are in this together, 421 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: and so it's really a marriage, and so there's going 422 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: to be a learning curve. 423 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: Listen. 424 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: The key is that we need to build a really 425 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: strong relationships with each other. And I said this in 426 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: the press conference, and great relationships are built on trust. 427 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: And the only way you established those type of relationships 428 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: is it takes time and you got to go through 429 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: the fire together and you've got to have those hard conversations. 430 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: You have to, you know, make sure you're not getting 431 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: into a situation where it's a bunch of group think 432 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: everyone's agreeing to agree. I don't think that's going to 433 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: be an issue, knowing Liam and James and I know 434 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: me not a lot of not a big group think guy, 435 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: not afraid to share an opinion, and so, but that 436 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna take time enough to develop that we're gonna 437 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: have to strengthen those relationships. 438 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Which we will. We're all committed to it. 439 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: And ultimately, no matter what I say today, the proof 440 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: is gonna be in the pudding. 441 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we got to go execute. 442 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: We got to go show first and foremost shot and 443 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: that he has trusted us to do this. We got 444 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: to go prove to him that he made the right 445 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: bet in the three of us. And then ultimately we 446 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: got to prove it to the whole organization, our players, 447 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day, our fans 448 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and our sponsors and our partners that when they come 449 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: to games at ever Bank or they tune on tune 450 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: into a road game, that they see a product they're 451 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: proud of, and that this is a team that's gonna 452 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: be you know, tough, smart, discipline, going to play the 453 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: game the right way. 454 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: And that's what we're playing on, playing on building. 455 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: Quick final too, any thoughts from the combine. It was 456 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: your first time since you went as a player, right? 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: No, I went one other time, the first year Tom 458 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: was here and I think it was twenty seventeen. Ok, 459 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the first year I went for a few days around 460 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line, right, but never in this role obviously 461 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: or in this It was much different. 462 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: It was good. 463 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: I thought our team did a great job. I was 464 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: really proud of the whole organization, how they represented us 465 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: at the combine, whether that's from you know, the production 466 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: team and you guys. I thought that was really well done. 467 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: I think our scouts were prepared, our coaches came in, 468 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: we got a lot of work done. 469 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: We treated it as a work week. Sure, so we 470 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: started through free agency. 471 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: So I was really pleased overall with the effort and 472 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: how everyone was prepared and we got things done. So yeah, 473 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: it was good overall. I think we accomplished what we 474 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: wanted to and that's a positive. 475 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: Without giving away anything because you won't the next week 476 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 3: prepping for free agency and then anything fans can expect 477 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: in freegency, not specifics, but active passive. 478 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: How would you. 479 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the way I would think about everything 480 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna make decisions that make 481 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: us a better football team. And whether that's super active 482 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: in free agency or not, I think that's gonna be 483 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: a year to year thing. I don't think there's an 484 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: overall philosophy saying, hey, we're not gonna be inactive in 485 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: free agency or we're gonna spend every dollar we can 486 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: in free agency. That's not I think that's the wrong 487 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: way to approach it. The right way to approach free 488 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: agency and the college draft is making decisions that makes 489 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: you better on the field. And I think the commitment 490 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: you have from us as a leadership team is we're 491 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: every decision we make is it good for the Jacksonville 492 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars and does it help us win football games? If 493 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't do those two things, why are we doing it? 494 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: And so that's our. 495 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: Approach to free agency. We're gonna we're gonna attack free agency. 496 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get after it. We'll compete, you know, listen, 497 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: And I think most people know that. So you can 498 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: have the greatest plan and you can plan out and 499 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: have all these great ideas going in the free agency. 500 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of the wild wild West. 501 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: Because the players three change a lot. 502 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: The players gonna choose what they want to do too. 503 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: So you can offer a great deal and you think, hey, 504 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: we want X player and we got this great plan 505 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: for them, and man, it's Jacksonville's Florida. It's this money 506 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: and all the stuff that goes into it. And they 507 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: can look at you and say, I'm good, I'm gonna 508 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: go to I'm gonna go to the Rams right going 509 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore wherever they go. So but we 510 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: will have a very good plan and we've started working 511 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: on that last week. 512 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: I will continue this week and we'll go in. 513 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: We'll be ready to execute and uh and we'll go 514 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: compete and try to get the guys we want and 515 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: uh and we'll But I think that for the fans, 516 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I'd worry less about whether it's early late, big money 517 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: not a big. 518 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: Money, they're gonna worry if it's not early. 519 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: They shouldn't go. 520 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: You got to have to give us, give us some time, 521 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: have confidence that what we are doing we view is 522 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: the best for this organization to win football games, because 523 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: that's all it matters. As if you're a fan, listen 524 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: to this right now. All you care about the end 525 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: of the day is having success in winning. Don't get 526 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: hung up on whether we won the off season or not. 527 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Like they should all know that we plan on winning 528 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: every phase. But how we judge winning and losing might 529 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit different because we're working with more 530 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: information and we have a very specific plan we're trying 531 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: to execute against and we can't share all that with 532 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: everybody because then we we get we're at a competitive 533 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: disadvantage in the league. So but know that we are organized, 534 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: we're ready to go, and we're going to get after it. 535 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: Come free agency in our way, and we're going to 536 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: do it the right way. 537 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: The last segment, because I'm a clever guy who, yes. 538 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: You are clever, I've brought the oar. You're very clever. 539 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: Well, the last thing we're going to do, we're calling 540 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: it the bow zone, and it gives you a chance 541 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: to answer the questions. 542 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: Okay, as long as it's not the bozo. 543 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: Well it's the bozone with the bozo asking questions about that. 544 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: That's rare. 545 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: And before your EVP, I would have called you the bozo, 546 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: but not anymore than. 547 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: For the respect. I know behind closed doors that's not 548 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: the case. 549 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: But that's a little bit publicly. 550 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 551 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Uh JK from New York and for Indina beach rights 552 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: and this is sort of softball for you. Your first 553 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: one is Tony Bisselli, the left tackle of the Jags 554 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: football operation. 555 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: And I think you already answer the question. 556 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my Yeah, I think that's how I view it. 557 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, I have 558 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: one goal when I took this job. Really one goal 559 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: is to bring it, to bring a Super Bowl here 560 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, to have the Lombardi Trophy in our building, 561 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: meaning we won the whole thing, and that's that's my goal. 562 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: That's what I want for this organization. I want us 563 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: to be viewed as the premiere organization in the NFL, 564 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: and everything we do on the field in this building, 565 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the standard, and that's you know, that's 566 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: my only goal. 567 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: Michael from Orange Park, Florida, Rites Zone. You recently said 568 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: it will take two or three years to get to 569 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: the level of the Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles 570 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: because there's still roster building to be done. Why don't 571 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: you ask one of the new leaders if they agree 572 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: with that. Well, I thought, since you're one of the 573 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: new leaders, and to preface, what I meant was getting 574 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: to a super Bowl level, and again, curious how you 575 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: see it. 576 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm less concerned about the time frame because I 577 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: think when you put timeframes on it, you almost set 578 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: yourself up for both disappointment but kind of give yourself 579 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: maybe an easy way out, because to me, it's like 580 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: what we should be worried about is twenty twenty five, 581 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: and the goal every year is to win a super Bowl. 582 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we're approaching it now. Whether we're 583 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: gonna win the super Bowl this year or next year, 584 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: the year after, I have no idea. There's so many 585 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: things that go into it. We haven't even started free agency, 586 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: we have the draft, we haven't got our players back here. 587 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: Liam and our staff are just starting to do the work. 588 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean they've been at it since they got hired, 589 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: but I mean there's a lot of work to be done. 590 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: And then in the NFL, you never know what's gonna happen. 591 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: Guys get hurt, you know, opportunities come, players peak at 592 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: certain times, and out of nowhere, you're sitting there in 593 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs and. 594 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: You have a chance. 595 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anyone in ninety six thought 596 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: we were going to be a team competing and go 597 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, correct, And we were, you know, 598 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: in the red five minutes away from tying up and 599 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: possibly sending it overtime. 600 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: And so, you know, I don't know when it's gonna happen, 601 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: but I know this. 602 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Is that that's what we're competing for, and that's what 603 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: we're striving for, and that's how we're going to make. 604 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Decisions here, so timeframe, I have. 605 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: No idea, Tony. 606 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this. I'm looking forward to this. 607 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be great things for the fans. 608 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for doing the Eve ep podyast. 609 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: Thank you Ozon. I appreciate it. 610 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: Mhm