WEBVTT - What Should Marlins Have Done with Perfect Eury Pérez? Plus Road Trip Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish on.

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<v Speaker 2>First Fish on First Live on the Foul Territory Network,

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<v Speaker 2>presented by jet Ski Rentals of South Florida. Fun sweep

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<v Speaker 2>the Marlins?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get?

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<v Speaker 2>Are sweep against the Sacramento Slash Las Vegas Athletics out

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<v Speaker 2>in a minor league park somewhere in Sacramento. Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>the positives. Uh, Marlin's gave two Allstar representatives and they

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<v Speaker 2>both performed well in this series. Nothing to take away

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<v Speaker 2>from them. Defended their cases very well, particularly Auto Max

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so that was awesome. The offense showed up

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<v Speaker 2>an abundance in this series was very good. Lots of

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<v Speaker 2>long balls, lots of runs. They have a positive run differential.

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<v Speaker 2>If this continues and they end with a positive run

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<v Speaker 2>differential somehow this season, it will be the first time

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<v Speaker 2>they've done it since two thousand and eight. Lots of

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<v Speaker 2>things to be happy about with the Marlins. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a team that is surpassing my expectations and I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other people's expectations in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>it is performing. Even if this was against a bad team.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't lost a series in a bit they've lost

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<v Speaker 2>one series since the start of June, and things are

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<v Speaker 2>okay right now, better than okay for the Marlins as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole. This series, on the other hand, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was just sweep, I would say that we leave

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<v Speaker 2>the series and leave Sacramento coming home right to face

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<v Speaker 2>the Mariners. I think it is with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of sour taste in the mouth. And we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that here in a second, as we cover the first

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<v Speaker 2>game of the series, which just ended Len's win by

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<v Speaker 2>a final score of nine to eight, a game they

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<v Speaker 2>were leading eh to zero. It takes that last run

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<v Speaker 2>that was driven that Liam hick shtroven on a little

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<v Speaker 2>what swibbler to the picture. That's the winning run in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, in the game where ry Prez was absolutely dominating.

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<v Speaker 2>The winning run was scored in this game in what

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<v Speaker 2>they ate inning so unbelievable, just out of hand. The

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<v Speaker 2>Marlins always find a way to surprise you, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what matter if it's good or bad. This particular game

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<v Speaker 2>was very bad in all of our opinions, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we all agree. I know there's discourse going on on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter between fans, media members, people that work for the team,

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<v Speaker 2>people that don't work for the team. We're always going

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<v Speaker 2>to give it to you one hundred percent. And listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start it this way before I go to you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I get the decision to protect the picture. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's two stars off the il young kid. You know

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment, he's going to be fireballing his ass off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be going for that one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the seventh game of the World Series. Absolutely so,

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<v Speaker 2>you protect the player from himself by taking him out. However,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving him in could have done so much better. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only is he your best chance to win, as Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Baker and Pete Fairbanks proved, not only is your best

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win and you need everyone you can get

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<v Speaker 2>two more innings of Uri Perez, is your best chance

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<v Speaker 2>to win in that situation. That's number one. No matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about the stretch or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in the moment right now and you need to

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<v Speaker 2>win a baseball game. I don't care if it's fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>to nothing. You leave that picture and that is your

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<v Speaker 2>best chance to win the baseball game. Number two is

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<v Speaker 2>you could have done so many things. Ignited the team,

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<v Speaker 2>ignited the fan base, given the town something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still struggling to get fans in here. People ain't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it in this team until they're performing like this

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<v Speaker 2>in the end of August, then maybe they'll be selling

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<v Speaker 2>out Loan Depot Park. They're not doing that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take a lot more of this, but to

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<v Speaker 2>give them the fact they can say, hey, this team

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<v Speaker 2>just through a perfect game. That gets you a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more buy in. So, without going too far on my own,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to you, guys, Isaac, I'll go to

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<v Speaker 2>you first. I think we all agree this is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad decision. I gave you my reasons why it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bad decision. I'll go to you first, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad decision is complicated.

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<v Speaker 5>I certainly probably would have done something differently because we

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<v Speaker 5>have to appreciate the fact that every single game under

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<v Speaker 5>this regime, it has been plan oriented, part of the plan,

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<v Speaker 5>every single starting pitcher. Every time they do this with

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<v Speaker 5>a starting pitcher, we always ask the same thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>it is always part of the plan. Now, should they

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<v Speaker 5>pivot from that plan when something like a perfect game

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<v Speaker 5>is realistically possible here six outs away? Probably, And I

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<v Speaker 5>understand the argument, Okay, he goes up for the eighth,

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<v Speaker 5>he has to go pitch the night at that point,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you're getting to like the one oh five,

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<v Speaker 5>one to.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifteen range, which you want to avoid. But my argument

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<v Speaker 4>would be you're in the eighth inning. That inning will

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<v Speaker 4>decide it for you. If it's a a quick swift in.

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<v Speaker 5>One, two three inning in the eighth, like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>the seventh, he could go out there below one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>pitches for the ninth and there you let him finish.

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<v Speaker 5>If he has a tough enne of he labors a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit, throws twenty pitches, or he gives up the

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<v Speaker 5>perfect game, then you take him out right there on

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<v Speaker 5>the spot.

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<v Speaker 4>So I didn't love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a big history guy, and if there's a chance

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<v Speaker 5>of doing something that only twenty four other people have

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<v Speaker 5>ever done the history of this beautiful game, you let

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<v Speaker 5>the kid do it. You don't know when this guy

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<v Speaker 5>will have another opportunity. He probably will never have another

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to do this, So in that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sense, it's tough. But like I said, we also have to.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate the discipline because, oh my god, imagine having to

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<v Speaker 5>take out your starting pitcher at ninety two pitches in

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<v Speaker 5>a perfect game. So that sucks. It's not a tough

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<v Speaker 5>position to be in. But I would have certainly gone

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<v Speaker 5>about it a different way and let him get the eighth,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and what if he has a three pitch inning,

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<v Speaker 5>but he has a five pitch inning, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>and so if I were going to take him out too,

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<v Speaker 5>you better go with someone high leverage.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, you minded that perfect game with.

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<v Speaker 2>That box and we can get too. How is that

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<v Speaker 2>your decision?

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<v Speaker 6>You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And going with Baker? They treated it as I like

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<v Speaker 1>it's any other game. This was the guy was throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a person. Look, I I appreciate Clayton claim has been

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but good with us, But man, when I say

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably the worst decision he's made as manager

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<v Speaker 1>of the Marlins, it's it's up that you don't take

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<v Speaker 1>a guy out of a perfect game. In no world

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<v Speaker 1>do you take someone out of a perfect game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the way Uri was throwing where it was good, he

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<v Speaker 1>was looking great. There was no other way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>And to not take that Barker earlier was also weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, you know, you wanted to use him

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he could and try to see if

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<v Speaker 1>you can maybe stretch him out for those last two

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<v Speaker 1>winnings of the game. But it was a bad decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one to say that the Marlins ever deserved

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<v Speaker 1>to lose a game, but the way it was going,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was going that way where they lost,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have a surprise. But you know what, there's

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<v Speaker 1>seven games over five hundred. They are currently now tied

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<v Speaker 1>for the third wild card spot.

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<v Speaker 7>Well okay, oh yeah, okay, thank you. Uh, I think

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<v Speaker 7>all all as well as an exaggeration. I mean that

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<v Speaker 7>the roach of one about as well as yeah, so

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<v Speaker 7>it's uh, it really is just absolute pure, like too

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<v Speaker 7>good to script that you have one of the best

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<v Speaker 7>start starting appearances ever made in Marlin's history, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>immediately followed by one of the worst bullpen meltdowns in

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<v Speaker 7>the entire franchise history. Like Baker, we can poke holes

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<v Speaker 7>in the decision to bring him in particular, if for

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<v Speaker 7>going to the pen, Baker has been pretty good this year.

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<v Speaker 7>He's never had an outing like that in his entire

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<v Speaker 7>nature career. I mean the fact that he faced six

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<v Speaker 7>guys didn't retire a single one for him to totally

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<v Speaker 7>melt down like that it feels like something almost supernatural

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<v Speaker 7>that it happened that way. I think that is the

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<v Speaker 7>baseball gods kind of like roaring back at Clayton mccull

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<v Speaker 7>for this decision, which I mean, when we talked about

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<v Speaker 7>these decisions, we shouldn't we need to be acknowledged the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that it's not a Clayton McCullough only decision. This

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<v Speaker 7>is a collaborative process. This is I'm sure communication with

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<v Speaker 7>several different levels of the Marlins organization even before this game,

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<v Speaker 7>about what Yuri could realistically have done given that he's

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<v Speaker 7>shortly removed coming back from the IL, given that he

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<v Speaker 7>was not fully stretched out when he came back from

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<v Speaker 7>the IL, This like theoretically should have been the start

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<v Speaker 7>where he was fully stretched out again as a starter.

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<v Speaker 7>But this is a guy that's never gone nine innings

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<v Speaker 7>in a game. But he's never gone has he ever

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<v Speaker 7>gone eight innings. I know he's like pitched in the

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<v Speaker 7>eighth inning, but this was going to blow pass you know,

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<v Speaker 7>anything he's ever previously done. But that being said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>just watching this game and how easy he made it look,

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<v Speaker 7>especially at the very end of that. I thought his

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<v Speaker 7>final ending that he pitched was as good as any ending,

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<v Speaker 7>as effortless as any ending that he had thrown on

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<v Speaker 7>a day where really the separator was that his command

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<v Speaker 7>overall was as good as I've ever seen it with

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<v Speaker 7>all his pitches, like his velow was totally regular is

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of swing and miss, that was pretty much

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<v Speaker 7>in line with an average Yury appearance. It was more

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<v Speaker 7>so that he just was not throwing meat balls for

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<v Speaker 7>anybody to take advantage of. And that's why he got

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<v Speaker 7>all these lazy pop ups, all these routine grounders, and

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<v Speaker 7>also his fair share of strikeouts that were just beautifully

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<v Speaker 7>placed on both corners, catching east to west in particular.

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<v Speaker 7>Today he was just marvelous. He was perfect and when

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<v Speaker 7>he just shows no sign of tiring. There is a

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<v Speaker 7>difference between a perfect game and a no hitter. I

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<v Speaker 7>think people like to group them together, But this is

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<v Speaker 7>something that was totally unprecedented in Marlin's history that they

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<v Speaker 7>had going that they were this close to against a

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<v Speaker 7>team that they had all week and long had just

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely demoralized. It seems like a situation to me where

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<v Speaker 7>this is where some intangibles, some real feel for the

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<v Speaker 7>game has to come in and they are yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 7>lucky that they won this game, because it would have

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<v Speaker 7>jumped right to the top of the list of one

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<v Speaker 7>of the worst losses ever for a regular season, at

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<v Speaker 7>least for this Marlins team. How that was gross the

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<v Speaker 7>way that it ended, And I think whoever is ultimately

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<v Speaker 7>responsible for that call, maybe it is played in in

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<v Speaker 7>that moment that actually has to make that decision to

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<v Speaker 7>take Yuri out here, to say that you have a

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<v Speaker 7>long future ahead of us. But this is even something

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<v Speaker 7>that they mentioned on the broadcast. I can't remember whether

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<v Speaker 7>it was specifically Chris Carrey or Dallas Brayden or Gabby Sanchez.

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<v Speaker 7>It was like one of them pointing out that he

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<v Speaker 7>has such a long career ahead of him, which he does.

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<v Speaker 7>He's twenty three years old, and he's been pitching extraordinary

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<v Speaker 7>well before his injury. Since he's coming back, like there's

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<v Speaker 7>reason to think he's gonna have other gems in his career.

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<v Speaker 7>There's not really a good reason to think he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to pitch another perfect game in his career because that

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<v Speaker 7>so rarely happens. And I think that's where you just

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<v Speaker 7>need to emphasize how unique a situation this was. Even

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<v Speaker 7>if he wasn't necessarily perfect, even if every pitch wasn't perfect,

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<v Speaker 7>even if there was a situation where he was behind

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<v Speaker 7>in the count three and one and he missed low,

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<v Speaker 7>and if they challenge at the abs challenge right there,

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<v Speaker 7>the perfect game is over. Yeah that was in the

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<v Speaker 7>sixth ending if I had that correct. So he wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>flawless in this outing, But the results are the results,

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<v Speaker 7>Like perfect results are something that people remember forever, even

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<v Speaker 7>more vividly than no hitters. And for him to get

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<v Speaker 7>had that opportunity to take away from him, it feels awful.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the fans are more upset than probably

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<v Speaker 7>he is, and the fans might be more upset than

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<v Speaker 7>his teammates are, But the fans are understandably furious about this,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think it's just another one of those really

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<v Speaker 7>weird in game decisions that we've seen the Marlins make

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<v Speaker 7>these last couple of years, a lot of which actually

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<v Speaker 7>work out. Overall, this is a team that's like overachieving

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<v Speaker 7>considering what we thought they'd be talent wise and experience wise,

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<v Speaker 7>but still like these are the moments that are still

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<v Speaker 7>a step back. I would think to handle the situation

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<v Speaker 7>the way that they did.

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<v Speaker 5>It.

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<v Speaker 2>Nate, I want to get your thoughts on this before

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<v Speaker 2>we go on, because we have much more to carver

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just as I know, as Kevin you were mentioning,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to let this overshadow as Eli was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what was a great series and great roach

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<v Speaker 2>trip for the Marlins, and they feel good coming home,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, I think they could have felt a lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if that were to happen, if that history

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<v Speaker 2>were to happen, it would have been just amazing for

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<v Speaker 2>one of the youngest kids on the team to have

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<v Speaker 2>that moment would have been great for the fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>great for the team, everything else. But we were saying, Nate,

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<v Speaker 2>before you got here, what happened after they took Uriy out.

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<v Speaker 2>It just didn't even seem like they cared what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. They just treated it like, Okay, we're up

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<v Speaker 2>by eight runs, let's just let's just put in our

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<v Speaker 2>bulk reliever like that. I can't I can't get Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I can get past the decision to take Eury out. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying how it could ignite the fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>like give them something to be Wow, the Marlins did

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<v Speaker 2>something amazing that only and they treated it like just

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<v Speaker 2>it was just another game, and and Baker comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and gives up a grand Slam and doesn't even get

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<v Speaker 2>an out. That the decision to take Eury out, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you could sway both sides of the aisle. The

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<v Speaker 2>decision to go to Lake Baker followed by Michael Peterson

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<v Speaker 2>and then only Fairbanks probably because you had to That

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<v Speaker 2>to me is terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's just so many things to do

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<v Speaker 3>into this, right. I think it was almost like divine

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<v Speaker 3>intervention from the baseball Dogs, and hey, you're gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>a guy out with the perfect game through seven. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even hate going to Michael Peterson there, but

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<v Speaker 3>going to Lake I know, I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 3>Lake Balker, but even though to do that just a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more high leverage from the start, because Micro

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<v Speaker 3>out of it perfectly fine. I think my big thing is, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I grew up a big fan of

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<v Speaker 3>this team, and there's I mean, let's be real here,

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<v Speaker 3>there's never been any national attention about the Miami Marlins,

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<v Speaker 3>right except when they go on their runs here and

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<v Speaker 3>then made the playoffs. They're playing their best baseball that

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<v Speaker 3>they've played since at least twenty twenty three. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you all that's going to be played on ESPN,

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<v Speaker 3>MLB network, Fox, all over Twitter. All you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 3>are the A's fans channing shame at Clayton when this

0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.760
<v Speaker 3>team has played. I mean, they just killed. They killed

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<v Speaker 3>the road trip. It's the truth. I guarantee you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>more of that than anything else. And it is such

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<v Speaker 3>a shame that this team is playing such good baseball

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<v Speaker 3>and Uri, I mean, let's be real here, as I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think, honestly, URI's gonna be in that position ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Again that's just speaking truthfully. I mean, with the walk

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<v Speaker 3>issues that he's had in the past, and one abs

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<v Speaker 3>call goes another way when a guy is that close

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<v Speaker 3>to history, And I mean, what is twenty pitches really

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do. I mean, the last time the Marlins Bavidyary

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<v Speaker 3>three years ago, his arm popped anyway, and spring training

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<v Speaker 3>the next year. So it's just how it is with pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>It with pitchers now, the arms and a pop eventually.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is a shame that I had to work

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<v Speaker 3>out like this. And like you said, Carvert it you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you don't want this to overshadow what the

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<v Speaker 3>morons have been doing. But we're fifteen minutes into the

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<v Speaker 3>stream and we have not said a word about the

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<v Speaker 3>road trip they just had and they just swept They's

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a shame, but the Marlins that at least

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<v Speaker 3>they pulled it out. Pete Fairbanks, when is the last

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<v Speaker 3>time he is not allowed to run in an appearance

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't give that guy at least a two

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<v Speaker 3>run cushion, I don't know. So there's a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>digest here, but I think we should finally get to

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they did win this series and sweep,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're coming back to manage seven games over and

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<v Speaker 3>that the fans that are you know, that can make

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<v Speaker 3>it to the game, they should show out and appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>the team before the All Star break.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did have to look at it.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, just regarding regarding Fairbanks, because it even if you

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<v Speaker 5>give him a four run lead, he seems to always

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<v Speaker 5>make it interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>And he hasn't had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Series there was scoreless.

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<v Speaker 5>Right as the scoreless ending since the Giants and then

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<v Speaker 5>over his last since the beginning of April. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>after the first two that's for the first home stand

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<v Speaker 5>He's given up nineteen earned runs in twenty two innings pitch.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost a run per inning for him. Well, for

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty lengthy period of time. Honestly, the Marls ironically

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen and six in those games.

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<v Speaker 4>But still they they don't have to show.

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<v Speaker 5>Up the back end of that pet a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>because who knows where Bender's gonna be. Who knows where

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of these guys are going to be past

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<v Speaker 5>the deadline, including Fairbanks. But yeah, it's been a rough

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<v Speaker 5>stretch for Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>Earned run in every out in sense, what was it

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<v Speaker 2>the June twentieth game against the Giants, So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>four consecutive outings.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, Yeah, yeah, Just to echo that point, I think

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<v Speaker 7>I meant to bring it myself, but I rambled in

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<v Speaker 7>too many different directions. The fact that blowing up in

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<v Speaker 7>a game like this and for Fairbanks to again be

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<v Speaker 7>in the middle of it, you're running out of time

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<v Speaker 7>for him to prove anything in regards to him being

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<v Speaker 7>like back to his usual self or even back to

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<v Speaker 7>who he was last year. Like there's this big sample

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<v Speaker 7>of evidence that just points to the fact that this

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<v Speaker 7>is his worst season. It doesn't mean that he's useless,

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<v Speaker 7>but the idea about going forward down the stretch with

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<v Speaker 7>him as your highest leverage reliever and your most important

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<v Speaker 7>reliever and for the moment, I mean, I guess the

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<v Speaker 7>next man up, if healthy, would have been Anthony Bender.

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<v Speaker 7>But Bender is hurt. That's something that we kind of

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<v Speaker 7>glossed over. But I think that that's something that's pretty

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<v Speaker 7>relevant in this situation. People had gone to Bender, for example,

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<v Speaker 7>in the eighth inning, I think it's a different vibe

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<v Speaker 7>than if they go to somebody like Lake Poker, given

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<v Speaker 7>how Bender has pitched this year, so I personally have

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<v Speaker 7>not given too much attention to the idea of like

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<v Speaker 7>relief pitching being a priority heading into the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 7>But the fact that you just there's depending on Bender's

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<v Speaker 7>health and even if he is healthy, like the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that there really is not one guy you can love

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<v Speaker 7>going to in that situation to somewhat like soften the

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<v Speaker 7>blow of, you know, that controversial decision. I think that

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<v Speaker 7>just speaks to the fact that, yeah, they could use

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<v Speaker 7>even more talent there, among other areas as well as

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<v Speaker 7>they've been playing right now, they could still use more

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<v Speaker 7>outside help, and the bullpen is one of those many

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<v Speaker 7>areas so that they should be exploring.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last thing real quick with Uri, Like people talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the injury and they're trying to just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have him come back and listen, it was a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all like his arm was shot or he had

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<v Speaker 1>a label like, it was none of that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a leg injury. Like I understand, like, yes, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to ease him back in, but like there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>he only had one rehab starting Jacksonville and this was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot quicker than expected because it was a leg injury.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like this was a forearm strain or a

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury that like you know what, then at that point, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>sure whatever, you took him out.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many ways to dive into this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really truly is not the right decision. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>Eli noted this, like you have the game, man, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's been a big issue with this coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff since day one, just lack of feel. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where you can make history, and even then

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<v Speaker 1>you took him out, Fine, you're in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>you could be the first team ever in Major League

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<v Speaker 1>based and first team ever to have a combined perfect game. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's still relatively cool if you ask me. Regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>Ice likes it. I don't know, just bad decision making there,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they won. Good for them. They almost blew it,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, I mean, you could not have asked for

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst situation after But yeah, they they won.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for them.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the funnier arguments that I've seen on Twitter

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<v Speaker 5>has been that it's it's very hot outside of Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 4>To be played in the winter. What am I say?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we eat? This game was only ever played out.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen the Marlins play baseball games in Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 5>in July in one hundred and five degree field temperature.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me a break, man, what are you doing here? Hey?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Grew up grow up in domes and lone people park.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 7>I covered one year start this year when he was

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<v Speaker 7>at Yankee Stadium and it was like fifty five degrees

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<v Speaker 7>and a little breezy, and it's like he goes out

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<v Speaker 7>of his way to bring up hell it was a

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<v Speaker 7>little too, it was a little cold, Like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>making excuses, basically walked like six guys and he said,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a little colds I don't like the cold weather.

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<v Speaker 7>So if anything, I think these are ideal can do

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<v Speaker 7>and that's why he I don't think it's a total

0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.440
<v Speaker 7>coincidence that he pitched well under these conditions anything California.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not like many of these are dug outs

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<v Speaker 5>in high school. These are well equipped Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 5>dugouts with all the water in the world and all

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.760
<v Speaker 5>the electrolytes in the world. And no, you know that's

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like I said, it's in northern California.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also going to be curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we haven't listened to Clayton yet, but we all

0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.199
<v Speaker 1>remember when he took out Sandy earlier this year and

0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 1>he said that was his decision. He'll take them out.

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<v Speaker 1>The blame for it. I'm curious to see who how

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<v Speaker 1>does this all came to be at the end of

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the day, this was a Clayton only decision where he

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<v Speaker 1>said I'm going to take charge you and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to take him out, or if this was a collective decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it was more collective. But still, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to move on, Adrey says. The start, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there is that modicum of protecting the player from himself,

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and you get it, but the history of that has

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<v Speaker 2>to If it's a no hitter and that's where you're at,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, all right, you know what. Fine, still sucks,

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 2>but okay, you it. You're protecting that player from himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kevin, to your point, Uri coming back from an

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>arm injury in May through more than ninety two pitches,

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 2>So we can go a million different directions, but we

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<v Speaker 2>got to stop because we gotta go on. I do

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>want to get the positives. This isn't didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to just make this a slam show about this decision,

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Speaker 2>which will probably continue to talk about as the season

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<v Speaker 2>goes on. But they do sweep the series and there's

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of positives that I do want to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll put Yuri in the back in the in

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the rear view for now. The good thing is he

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 2>did go seven perfect. I think he'll be able to

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 2>build confidence after this start. Even though he had to

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 2>watch the bullpen kind of almost squander away the lead

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 2>behind him, This is still a good confidence building block

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 2>start for Yuri. And Uri, as we all know, with

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<v Speaker 2>how he has attitude wise and how he pitches with

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.639
<v Speaker 2>his heart on his sleeve. He needs confidence more than

0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 2>anything else, and I think he'll pull that away from

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the start, even though he was pulled when I don't

0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 2>think you should have been. We'll go on what we

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 2>all think, and what we all have thought all season

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 2>is that there's some true All Stars on this team,

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and two of them got the knots before this series

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.719
<v Speaker 2>started and defended them, defended those selections in the series,

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 2>one being Auto Lopez. So I want to talk about

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.919
<v Speaker 2>this kid probably should have been the starting shortstop in

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<v Speaker 2>the National League. I think is the best shortstop in

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the National League. Probably not so arguably is the best

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 2>shortstop in the National League. He won't be starting because

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 2>of fan voting, but he does get his rightful selection,

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and he's in the midst of one of the greatest

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:30.120
<v Speaker 2>offensive and even defensive seasons any Marlin shortstop of all time.

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy in this series became the eighth

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>player in franchise history with twenty five doubles and nine

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 2>homers at least in the first half of a Marlin season.

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 2>One of the last players that did that is Hanley Ramirez,

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Isaac's boy. So I don't think I think that where

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 2>when you compare these two seasons, which I think is

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.640
<v Speaker 2>a great thing, A great great thing to look at.

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Whether Otto gets to Hanley or not, we'll talk about.

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you, Isaac that question. Can he

0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.400
<v Speaker 2>get to where Hanley was that season, which is one

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest seas in Marlin's history. I think he could,

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>but I want to get your thoughts on that. That season.

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Hanley wins a batting title, hit like three

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 2>forty something, I think where Otto loses out on the

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>power side of things. But he's up to nine homers,

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in the twenty five, twenty six doubles, whatever.

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>He has now pretty awesome. So can he get to

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>where your boy Hanley was in nine? Offensively? He's definitely

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>already there and passed him defensively because Hanley wasn't great

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 2>defensively for most of his career. But offensively, can Otto

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 2>get to where Henley was that year on nine?

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean the extra base hits and the impact that

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.919
<v Speaker 5>Otto's bat has been able to contribute this year is

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 5>what's really separated him from what we thought he could

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 5>be a couple of years back or last year. Because

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 5>holy crowd, the guy's slugging over five hundred. These are

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 5>Bryce Harper type numbers when you compare him to Hanley.

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to compare the two because Handley in

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.400
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and nine was arguably the best player in baseball.

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Right he lost the MVP to of prime.

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.720
<v Speaker 5>Elbert pool Holes, he was legitimately the best player in baseball,

0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.199
<v Speaker 5>one of the best player, a top five player in

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 5>baseball at the worse.

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 4>So it's hard for me to compare the two immediately.

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 5>But with Auto Lopez, just the fact that we're even

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 5>having this discussion off from a waiver claim, it's just incredible.

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 5>The fact that the WRC plus damn near similar, the

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 5>batting average identical, and they're both slunking in the high

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 5>five hundreds and the low five hundred. They should say so,

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, just the fact that it's even a discussion.

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 5>With the amount of extra base hits Auto is bringing

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 5>in as well as the goal glove defense, he's.

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Become a hell a valuable player.

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 5>I believe he just eclipsed four f war on the season,

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 5>and there's still a whole other but three months left

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 5>of baseball games being played, so I'm really excited to see.

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 4>I believe Hanley accumulated seven point.

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 5>Two war on in two thousand and nine, so it's

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 5>not far off that Auto could eclipse him in that way.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I was riding up the Auto All Star piece, you know,

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and if you look at single seasons, there's four from

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Handley and then Auto's right behind him. So in terms

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of in terms of b war so he's got an

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.880
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to really semment himself into a really good spot.

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think he has the third most B war

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>among Marlins shortstops, you know, career, so it's behind Handley

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>at the top. Figure out. But the season Auto is

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>having is just incredible, and you're finally starting to see

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a power surge. Despite the

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>ballparks they played in this road trip, still get to

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>see and defensively, after a slow start, he really just

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.239
<v Speaker 1>got it going. I mean, Auto, the season he's had

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>is one of the best we've seen in a very

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>long time. And I think you're reaching a point where

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Otto I'm not gonna say he's gonna win an MVP.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>He will not show his his there. There's a lot

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of guys that are there, but to say lower top ten,

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not crazy to think, right, I mean, he's putting

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>up one of the best seasons in this franchise history.

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the best shortstops in the National League.

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>He should have been starting the All Star Game. He

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<v Speaker 1>could have made the case score and at least to

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>be one of the finalists to start. So yeah, no,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and this this series only cemented as All

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Star Case.

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't seen a whole lot is like people, I

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 7>think it's useful to contextualize what Otto's doing this year

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 7>compared to like so Towers last year, because Tours had

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 7>this very fascinating breakout campaign and he had I would

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 7>say that the shape of his production looked a lot different.

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 7>With Towers. He got off to a pretty good start

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 7>and then he had a very deep slump in like

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 7>late May and first half of June, and then he

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 7>caught absolute fire after that, one National League Player of

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 7>the Month in July his last fully healthy month. Whereas

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 7>with Auto it's just been freakishly consistent. And the stat

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 7>that I still think is it's so simple, but he

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 7>had so important. He has hits in every single series

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 7>this entire season. It's hard enough to play in every

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 7>single series entire seasons hits in most cases several hits.

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 7>In this particular series it must have been six or

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 7>seven hits, including but most of those were extra bases.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 7>He's just been that's to me, that's the aspect of

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 7>the game. The simple like hit tool, I do not

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 7>think was anywhere close to I forget, like an eighty

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 7>grade hit tool, but even sixty five seventy seemed extremely

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 7>extremely optimistic. And that's kind of what he's playing at

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 7>this year is an elite hit tool to go along

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 7>with above average power, to go along with his continued

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 7>plus base running, to go along with his above average

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 7>defense at a premium position. So I mean, as impressive

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 7>as Stowers was, as many people that were wanted him

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 7>to be an extension candidate, wanted him to be a

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 7>face of a franchise, and he's now heating up and

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 7>playing really well on his own. What Otto is doing

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 7>is significantly more impressive, and I think that's just being

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 7>born out in the most basic way. In terms of

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 7>his overall value wins above replacement. He's ready to produce

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 7>more war this year than Stowers did all last year

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 7>by a healthy margin. And that's where he compares pretty

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 7>favorably to Handley on pace to kind of have the

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 7>same war output that Handley had at his very best season. Yeah,

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 7>this is just there's really no way to overstate what

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 7>a big difference that has made with this Marlins team, from

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 7>him going to a solid placeholder shortstop to going to

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 7>I think unquestionably the best shortstop in the National League

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 7>so far this season. It's been amazing.

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Jerd I who was out on cipher two of these

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>games in in Sacramento, West Coast coverage for Fish on first,

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 2>which is great to see. Uh So, Jeremy, we're talking

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 2>about Auto. I know you get a chance to talk

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to him about what the All Star Game means to him.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 2>So we were just going over where this he's this

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>season for him could stand in terms of like greatest

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 2>seasons ever by a Marlin shortstopp talking about Hanley and others.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just how he took the news for the

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>All Star Game. We saw your interviews with him, but

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>know you were there, so obviously awesome for him. And

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>as Isaac was mentioning, turning a guy a waiver claim

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>into an All Star by the Marlins just absolutely amazing

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>what Bendix has done with some of these guys they

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty much find out nowhere Hicks, Auto and others. But yeah,

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>go ahead, how did uh? How did How was Auto's

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>demeanor this this series?

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was having fun and was just super grateful,

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 6>super happy that he was an All Star. I mean

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 6>there was that that like smile on his face. Just

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 6>to have the privilege of going to the nash League

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 6>All Star roster and participate hopefully in that game. It's

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 6>a special thing for him. He told me he bought

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 6>his suit two weeks ago. He had a feeling and

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, his face lit up when he was talking about,

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, red carpet, the festivities that go.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 4>On, and it's well deserved.

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the day he finds out he's named to

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 6>an All Star game, he goes out and collects another

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 6>three hits, another double, another home run. I mean, the

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 6>guy is on fire. And there's no better shortstop in

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 6>the National League. I'm gonna go ahead and say that

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 6>right now. You could say C. J. Abrams, But for

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 6>my money, the starter should be Auto Lopez. And it's

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 6>a shame that he's not. But he's he's excited and

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 6>it's so well deserved for him, so happy for him.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>We didn't see Max in this series, but I want

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to get to him ju He gets the nod in

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the All Star Game as well, first of his career.

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Brown's proved a lot of people wrong with this one,

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'll kid myself in the in the talk. Not

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>only I think that Meyer wouldn't be a I didn't

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>even think league average starter, and they turned him into

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>an All Star pitcher and the best pitcher in this

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>rotation so far this season. Just amazing. Not only to

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to solve him mechanically and to add the

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>sweeper and everything like that, but also to solve him mentally,

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I think was a task for the Marlins. And not

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>only did they do the pitch and usage thing and

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>give him that that new pitch that they teach to

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>so many pitchers, so gracefully they figured this player out

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>with what he needs mentally, and I think that that

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 2>can't be left unsaid. So I don't think any of

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>us ever expected the day to come where we would

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>have said Max Meyer all Star starting pitcher. Pretty amazing

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and another testament to pitching development all throughout this organization.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>They do it at the miners, they do it at

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the majors. The Marlins are very good at pitching development,

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and this is no exception. Nate, go ahead, Max.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Meyer, Yeah, exactly what you said with pitching development, man.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think what two or three years ago,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>like you said, we would have said that Max mar

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.959
<v Speaker 3>being All Star coming twenty twenty six, and even last year,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone would have believed you after that

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>blow up Rocky start the beginning of June. So I

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>think we've all been on it for the past couple

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 3>of years that this guy just misches up his pitchment

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, stops relying too much on that slider.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Then it's been magic pretty much for him.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Developing that sweeper to play off that slider in his

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>fastball has also been looking improved as well, has been huge.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I think something underrated don't really talk about when we

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 3>discuss Matt's is the pitch talung from the dugout. I

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 3>think that's just taking a load off of his mind.

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have to worry about throwing the perfect pitch

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>forever that he trusts, you know, a guy like Rob

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Marcelo to put himself in the best situation it is

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 3>to get out, and he's been great.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 4>His mental forth two.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 3>I think has come a long way as well, and

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 3>even saw it in his in the speech at the

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Marlins posted yesterday that he's finally healthy. He said that,

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, he probably thought he'd be choked by now

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>we're on the il or something. But the fact that

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 3>this guy has been able to be healthy, super durable.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I think he's what fifth in the national leading innings pitched,

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 3>exactly what the Marlins needed, especially with Sandy you know,

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 3>still David new innings, but I guess as a late

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>production has been there, but he's been inconsistent for the

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 3>past few years, as we all know. So the fact

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 3>that Matt has been doing this has been incredibly bid

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>for this team and is a huge reason is why

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>they're you know, seven games under at this point in the

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 3>year or seven games over.

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And if you dive into that development, you know,

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the big things is the addition of the

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sweeper that that pitch is still is technically by run value,

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>his second best one. But you know, with the slider

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>with a plus nine run value, which is one of

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the best pitch sliders in baseball, and then the sweepers

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>at plus four, which is still great, it's still way

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>above the gaverage.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 4>You'll take that.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the big thing too, is the fastball. Clayton

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>admitted this multiple times on scrums where Max's fastball just

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't good enough. The for sing wasn't good enough, so

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>they had the singer to compliment it a little bit.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>The sinker stool has not been a good pitch in

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>terms of run value, but it gets a job done.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And the fastball has been better, still not great, but

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>still much better. Been a huge help. But the addition

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of the sweeper has really been the big change for him.

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's been by far the biggest adjustment. If

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to pinpoint one thing, it's that. And then

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>what Carver said is one hundred percent true the mental

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>side of it, and great call by night with the pitchcolling.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's noted that multiple times himself, where he

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to think too much. Now he just goes

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.719
<v Speaker 1>out there and he gets the signed and he throws

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like that's really about it. So yeah, good stuff from Max.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I know he unfortunately took his first loss. That was

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a big thing this year, the nine to zero record,

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But Isaac's bold predictions off to a good start. Hopefully,

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it ends. I think, what'd you say, Isaac. Fifteen wins

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>for Max this year, so he's got he's got some time.

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 7>Ye, he's well on pace to get there. We should

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 7>before go break, we should check in with Jeremia again.

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 7>Even though we kind of went into detail on Ury

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 7>and the decision, Jeremiah was the one in the clubhouse

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 7>that gots to hear from Clayton and Uri afterwards. So

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 7>if he could give us a quick, quick synopsis about

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 7>I guess Clayton's explanation and then Ury's reaction to being

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 7>pulled in the middle of perfection.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Clayton acknowledged he he knew what was going on obviously

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 6>that he wanted to leave Uri out there, but he

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 6>also said that it was a predetermined decision. He said,

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 6>ninety pitches going into the eighth inning, it was a

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 6>foregone conclusion he was going to be taken out. I

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 6>asked Uri if he had any conversation with Clayton regarding

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 6>the decision, if there was any pushback, and Yuri said

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 6>he understood. He said, I told Clayton I understand, and

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 6>there was no attempt to stay in the game. Clayton

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 6>just kind of acknowledged like, yeah, I understood the gravity

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 6>of the situation, and a part of me did want

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 6>to leave him out there.

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>But we have a plan. I'm going to stick to

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 4>that plan, and that's how it is. It's just funny

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 4>that Marlin's pr got to uri too quick. They got

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 4>to him real quick there. It's unfortunately, you know, Hey,

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 4>that's fun.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 5>And the predetermined rule ninety pitches in the eighth inning,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 5>you're done.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 4>So what ninety pitchers means the same as ninety nine pitches? Like, really,

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 4>it's just some arbitrary number like that.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't like.

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't really love that explanation though, because.

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the point where you need to have feel like that,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>fuck that go out.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And so how do you plans change? Like, if there

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>were any situation for your plan predetermined plan to change.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>That is one of the only situations in which you

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>could say the plan has to change. And that comes

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>from Clayton, it comes from Bendex or whoever else is

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>making these decisions, you medical, whatever it is, you have

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 2>to change your plans when something like that is happening.

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>There's just far too much more reward than there is

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>to the risk. You have to change that.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna say this that, in my opinion, you

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 6>throw them out there for the eighth. You let him

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 6>go hitter for hitter. If he loses the perfect game,

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 6>you make that decision. But we're on the verge of

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 6>witnessing history. And the entire stadium wanted to see history

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 6>made amy. The A's fans were screaming and booing. It

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 6>was loud from the press box. And and and what

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 6>also I have to say, is Ury Ury audibly or

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 6>I could see URI's emotion and how how he was

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 6>just in a groove all day long and the A's

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 6>hitters had no chance. There wasn't one hit that I

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 6>felt like, Oh, Ury got super lucky, you know, I

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 6>mean it was weak contact, it was strikeouts, those guys

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 6>rolling over. And you know, we're never gonna know if

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 6>Ury could have finished the perfect game.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 4>We're never gonna know because.

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 6>The next hitter, Lake Baker walks Lawrence Butler, and you know,

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 6>the rest is history. But I'm always gonna wonder, I

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 6>really am.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.040
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<v Speaker 2>Nack. Here on fish on First Live to recap the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the series and preview. With the Mariners series

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>coming up back at home starting later this week, we'll

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 2>move past Urie talk and All Star talk. We hit

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>on Max and Auto and their rightful selections to the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game, which will be awesome. Kevin, You'll be

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>there to see how suld be cool. We'll talk about Sandy.

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>We talked about wins for Max and how he racked

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>him up. I mean, Sandy, here he comes again. I

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 2>mean he's racked up what's seven in a row, and

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>it's been pretty damn well deserved. I mean, he hasn't

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>lost a game in a while. And one of the

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>key cogs in what the Marlins were able to do

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>in June was Sandy out there every fifth day getting

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 2>a dub. So pretty cool for Sandy. I think this

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>start it showed a lot of the reason why he's

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>an ace. He throws out a twenty pitch first and

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>somehow pitches through the eighth inning. I mean that's the

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff of aces. You know, after a long first inning,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to go deep in a game, you're going to have

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.919
<v Speaker 2>to be economical with your pitches, not only in one inning,

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 2>but probably in a few innings, and he had what

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>three innings under nine pitches, which is just incredible. It

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.399
<v Speaker 2>wasn't all about the strikeout. There were some of those

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 2>really just a zone pounding stuff from Sandy. Here it is,

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>come get it. You're not gonna hit it, so I

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>don't care. Got some whists as well, but really was

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 2>purposely all around the strike zone, particularly with sinkers. This

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>sinker heavy in the start, but that's okay. We really

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>only saw the change up versus left the other side

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>of the plate, so I mean he was really just

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 2>coming right at guys and it worked and he pitched

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 2>into the eighth inning and showed why he's still a

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>cy Young Award winner. So incredible start for Sandy, especially

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>after that rough first. I was like, okay, probably gonna

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.919
<v Speaker 2>need the bullpen, and you barely needed it. So thoughts

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>on Sandy and this one, like go ahead.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 7>You covered it well. Where I do feel like I've

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 7>seen that script a bunch of times during Sandy's career

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 7>where it doesn't necessarily look like he has it all

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 7>working early on, and then he just he just figures

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 7>it out, he makes adjustments. Doesn't really get as much

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 7>credit as he probably should for being as cerebral of

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 7>a picture as he is and being as adaptable as

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 7>he is, and now in this era, in this Bendix

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 7>era of pitchcollng from the dugout, it's not all on

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 7>him to make those adjustments. Part of it is to

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 7>help from the pitching coaches as well, but as a

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 7>collaborative group, it's been working out. And this was great

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 7>Like this, Honestly, his performance wasn't all that far removed

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 7>from what Yuri was doing just in terms of quality.

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, the results weren't close to perfect, but there

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 7>was a shoutout going into that eighth inning that I

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 7>had felt like there was a decent chance that he

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 7>was going to finish that game all by himself, just yesterday,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 7>and also in the same situation, given that he had

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 7>a very healthy lead to work with. Understandably, that's a

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 7>big elements when it comes to looking at this long

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 7>win streak that he has, one that wasn't even match

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 7>during his cy Young year. I tweeted that out. I

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 7>want to bring it up again that he not even

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 7>during his cy Young year did he have a streak

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 7>like this, seven consecutive starts of his at the team won.

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 7>Forget him, he's gotten the winning decision in all those games,

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 7>but even just the Marlins winning seven straight Sandy starts

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 7>had been unprecedented until this streak. And during that streak

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 7>that he've been scoring upwards of seven runs per game.

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 7>This has been a very average offensive performance behind him

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 7>since the start of June that he's had, so that

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 7>naturally helps a lot. It's just good to see, you

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 7>feel I mean, all overall, you just feel good for

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 7>the guy because he's had to especially early in his career.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 7>I remember how much of a narrative it was that

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 7>he was doing it all by himself, that he was

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 7>losing games in spite of great pitching, just because the

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 7>run sport was right into the very bottom of the league.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 7>Like we've experienced both ends of that, and so this

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 7>is a very refreshing change for him. It's something that

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 7>he's certainly not familiar with that this kind of support,

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 7>and it speaks to just how well the team is

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 7>playing overall, that offensively, this is on pace overall, of course,

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 7>this is on pace to be one of the best

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 7>teams in Marlin's history. But offensively, it's that seems like

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 7>even more secure that this really is a top at

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 7>worst the top three offense in the team's history now,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 7>just the depth that they have and the improvement that

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 7>they've had today. For example against left handed pitching. Remember

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 7>that was a story early in the year that at

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 7>least against lefties you could beat up this team, you

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 7>could force when they were sitting some key guys, they

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't get nearly the same production from the platoon players

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 7>that were coming in, and that trends has kind of

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 7>been squashed as this year has gone on. So to me,

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 7>like that's as good as the starting pitching has been.

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 7>To me, the offense is top of mind. The fact

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 7>that they have during this road trip, they really lit

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 7>it up. Even you could use all the qualifiers you want,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 7>but offensively, this has been a stretch that we've just

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 7>rarely seen in Marlin's history, and it's really encouraging moving forward.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, just Sandy being in the middle

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>of it. It has to be that way, right, I mean,

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 2>so it's only right that that happens. So I thought that,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 2>like we said, a really good start this last time

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 2>out for Sandy, and you know, even if it didn't

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>look that way at first, to make that happen and

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>to just just make it work and make it happen

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>no matter what you have to do, no matter which

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>way you have to pitch guys, is Sandy in a nutshell.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 2>He's he's gonna do everything you can to get the

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>job done and did it well in this one. I

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>want to head on one more guy, singular player before

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>we uh move on from the series. I wanted to

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>hit on two more, but we went a little long

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>on Uri, understandably so, so I one end on Jill Mack,

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 2>who had a fantastic West Coast swing. We only saw

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 2>him really in two games in this series, but he

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>did it a home run, actually hit three home runs

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>on this road trip, which is awesome. You're starting to

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>see the offense show up. Took him a little while.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, with any young player, it's going to happen,

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 2>especially a catcher, but you're starting to see what this

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.439
<v Speaker 2>guy can do with the bag. He's been a little

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>bit more patient, He's been able to drive pitches a

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit better. The swings are looking better all the

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>time for him, and the defense just continues So you know,

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 2>we've thrown this talk around for a while about extension

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>candidates to the Marlins. We've talked about Paris, We've talked

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>about Marcy at one time. We've talked about you know,

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>a few of Thomas White. I even mentioned as a guy,

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe even before he makes his debut, which would be historical.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think the the most obvious answer to the

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>question of who do the Marlins extend, If there's gonna

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>be one guy, it has to be this player. This

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>is a franchise cornerstone. I liken him to a lefty

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>hitting J. C. Rerel Muto, which is a cornerstone catcher.

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little bit that too soon to

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>say he's Yati Malina. I've seen that comparison as well,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 2>But I really like him as a true defensive catcher

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 2>who is going to hit for a good average of

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>good power. I think that he really could get to

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a ceiling likened to JT. Real Muto. That's my opinion.

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So my question to you guys, Kevin, I'll let you

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 2>go on this one. Do they extend Joe Mack, Why

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>should they and when should they do it?

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Will they extend Joe Mack I don't know, should they

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>extend Joe Mack? Hell yeah, and yeah, our friend Lewis

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Adeo weis frowly at the Yaudi comp after a saying

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Mac had no aura is something but apology

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>piece from him coming soon by the way, But yeah, no.

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Since the start of June, Joe Mack is raking. He

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.280
<v Speaker 1>has a nineteen sixty two oh ps that doesn't include

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>today's game. I don't even think I don't think he

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 1>ended up taking it a bat but two ninety nine

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>batting average, like what he's doing is truly impressive. And

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, even if he wasn't posting a nine hundred

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>some and ops like the.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Fact the plate.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh great existed.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so yeah, no, great stuff for Mac and phenomenal

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>month of June. He probably should have been up there

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>for Rookie of the Month just the way he played.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And we're starting to finally see the power coming a

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>little bit more too, which is great. And I think

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>we always said this, you know, the it would the

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>icing on the cake with this whole thing would be

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Mack. You know, his bat translates from what

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we saw in the minor leagues to now and that's

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>been the case so far. And this is this is

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>probably the best, you know, best case scenario in terms

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>of what the Marins expected from Mac, because he could

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>have expected him to continue to struggle the way he

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>was early on, but he really he really kept it

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>going and and he really just kept improving. So shout

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>out to him. This is one of the best defensive

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>catchers Martins with that in a very long time. And

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just the way like just watching games, it feels so

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>much more comforting knowing that Mac is back there and

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>what a guy runs in all likelihood, you know, the

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>guys want to steal second is gonna get thrown out.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Mac has like fourteen or fifteen caught steelings

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>already this season, and maybe sixteen already. But like the

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>season he had he's having is just impressive. And shout

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>out to him, and yeah, I would extend them easily, Carver,

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>There's no question about it. He should be the Martins

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>extension candidate. And he's young, he's he's still I know,

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got years left. So maybe the Marmins want to

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>play those out. But when you have a guy like

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mack and you have catcher and you have the

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to extend a young player, and not just this

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>extended for the baseball stuff of it, but just for

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that it would win over a fan base.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's that's something that you'll do.

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 5>What I will say about Joe mack He's actually he's

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 5>thrown out sixteen runners trying to steal so far this year,

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 5>which is just incredible. I think he's got to be

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.439
<v Speaker 5>one of the most valuable assets that the team has

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 5>had in a very long time in terms of just age,

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 5>arbitration status, how much money he's making, and immediate impact

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 5>to their major league team. I know ELI put out

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 5>a piece a while ago the most valuable players in

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 5>the whole organization major League in Minor League two, and

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 5>I Thomas White was up there at twenty twenty three.

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeui Price, for example, would be high up there.

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 4>But Joe Mack.

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Holy the Marlins have a real diamond here, and I

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 5>don't know if they'll be able to extend him. I'm

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 5>not sure if you do it just to win over

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 5>a fan base, you don't do that either. However, this

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 5>is he has not looked overmatched in the major leagues,

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 5>and the slightest maybe he is adjusting back to major

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 5>league pitching after he looked a little bit overwhelmed in

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 5>his first month or so, and he's adjusted back. We'll

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 5>see what happens when the league adjusts back as well.

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 5>But he has just looked so comfortable behind the dish

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 5>in every facet of catching and as well in the

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 5>batter's box that he looks just as good as he

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 5>did in Triple A and hitting wise. So if you

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 5>had a real valuable guy here, and it's said, gonna

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 5>be really curious to see what they do with him. Remember,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 5>he was a high school catching draft picks, so those

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 5>are usually rare, so they do. He's pretty young, and

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 5>if they didn't want to extend him, it would be swell.

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 5>But they have him through twenty twenty, twenty thirty three.

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like I said, I think one of the

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 5>most valuable assets that this team has had in a

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 5>long time.

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Valuable assets are expensive assets, too, so it would take

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a pretty I would assume a pretty big number to

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>extend them. I don't know, maybe this early on, but

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>if he keeps doing what he's doing, you know, maybe

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>in a year it's gonna get tough.

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's part of my off season Polueprint who extend

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 7>him before his debut, And I don't think there was

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 7>a whole lot of people on the same boat with

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 7>me with that, given that Gus was already at the

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 7>major league level and that Mac had had some inconsistencies

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 7>in his minor league career. To me, it always made

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 7>a lot of sense. Although the interesting complication is that

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 7>it's gonna be very hard to find another catcher that

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 7>you really love if it's not him. If he's not

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 7>the guy, they're so few alternatives that reach the open

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 7>market because the other side of that coin is that

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 7>this is a position that ages more quickly than most

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 7>others once guys are free and eligible. In his case,

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 7>he'd be reaching free agency right around I think his

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 7>thirtieth birthday, right after he turned thirty, and catchers, a

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 7>lot of catchers are already well into decline. Like some

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 7>of them, their peak just doesn't align with the typical

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 7>position players, just due to the physical demands of the position,

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 7>where a lot of guys, once they are free agent

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.760
<v Speaker 7>eligible at the catcher position, they're just not all that interesting.

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 7>It will be a long time between before somebody gets

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 7>like the average annual value that real Muto God is

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 7>a free agent, he was kind of a big exception

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 7>to that norm. But for most guys, you look at

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 7>free agency almost every year, and the catcher lists are

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 7>guys that you consider more so as backups, are guys

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.879
<v Speaker 7>that we don't fully trust defensively anymore, ones that are

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 7>closer to a part time DH. I remember when Mitch

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 7>Garver was a free agent a few years ago and

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 7>Marlins fans are so excited about Mitch Garver, Mitch Carver,

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 7>Mitch Garver, and he ends up getting like a modest

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:49.879
<v Speaker 7>two year deal from the Mariners and ends up really

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.720
<v Speaker 7>underperforming even that deal, And that was like the jewel

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 7>of the available catchers that year. And of course the

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 7>excepdment even before that for Jacob Stallings, and they traded

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.280
<v Speaker 7>for Jacob Stallings and he was ready into his early

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 7>thirties and his career immediately imploded once they acquired him

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 7>at that stage. So with that being said, they already

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 7>have control over him through his entire twenties, and that

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 7>kind of takes away some of the urgency to extend him.

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 7>But again, with all that being said, I was on

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 7>this page. I was on this train even before he debuted.

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 7>I think that he is exceptional enough that you really

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.240
<v Speaker 7>want to buy out as much of his entire career

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 7>as possible. I think he is a very well rounded player,

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 7>not a perfect player, still gonna have some limitations in

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 7>the batting average department and therefore the on base department,

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 7>but the defense has been exactly as good as advertised.

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 7>Today's pass ball notwithstanding, I don't think people are gonna

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 7>remember that. They're gonna remember the Fairbanks struggling and Baker struggling.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 7>They're not gonna remember Joe Mack behind the plate in

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 7>the ninth inning making things a little bit more tense

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 7>than he needed to be. He's an awesome defensive player,

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 7>really under he really gets it, I think in more

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 7>ways than one. So, yeah, they're in good shape that

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 7>they have him. It's a It really is a such

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 7>a dramatic change, even from a year ago. Just because

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 7>you trust him defensively at the position first and so

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 7>far as beginning, you a lot of extra value with

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 7>the bat as well. So it's been it's been. Yeah,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 7>he's overperformed, if that was possible.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 2>One other thing that we may forget about this last game,

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that just happened, and this is the last thing that

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll get to. We could be brief on this, guys

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 2>before we hit the Seattle, and we'll be brief on

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that too before a prediction time. But one more thing

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to get to that people may forget, is

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>it Jacob Marcy is injured. He got hit by a

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 2>pitch in this game and it looked like it went

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 2>off his knee or something, and he was removed from

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 2>this game. So I already wanted to talk about Marci,

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you know which I mean to his credit has looked

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 2>slightly better in his last couple of the bats, but

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it's still a struggle a lot of times that he's

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 2>at the plate, so he's had a whole first half

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it. I hope he's okay, and he's not

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like he can come back and he's okay for this

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>upcoming series. We'll find out on that. But I did

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 2>want to hit on him regardless, you know, if he

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 2>does have to go to the Ale or not. I

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 2>guess if he does, it's even more of a point

0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to bring up what do the Marlins do with that position?

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Which is a hole? Not defensively it's not a hole,

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 2>but offensively, that position is a true hole right now

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 2>with how Draco Marci is still struggling. So if the

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Marlins are true buyers at the deadline, is this a

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>position that they address to get Marcie the time he

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 2>needs in the miners And and you know, is it

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a priority for them? And can they fill it? And

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>who would they fill it with? So, Isaaca, I'll hit

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 2>with you on this. I know you're you're always up

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>on the roster move talk and tree talk and stuff

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. So I want to I want to ask

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 2>you that is this a priority for them? I mean,

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 2>this is still a player that can be good. Yes,

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a player that needs to figure it

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 2>out in the miners, as do a few others. I mean,

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 2>he's been given the whole first half and he's still

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 2>not very good at the play offensively. Defensively different story,

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 2>he's very good. The Marlins in the system, as you know,

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of true center fielders close unless

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 2>you rush cam Canerella, which I don't think they will do.

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So would they look outside of the organization for a

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 2>center fielder at the deadline?

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, most certainly they won't be looking to replace

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 5>that position this deadline anyway, maybe in the offseason you

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 5>could look at a stopgap option. But I do know

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 5>that they're very, very fond of their double A outfield

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 5>with Jones, Lewis, and Kinderella. I think at least one

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 5>of those will be big League ready by next year,

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.280
<v Speaker 5>probably not Lewis, And so to me, they're not worried

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 5>in the slightest about Marcy's still I think he has

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 5>sort of tempered their expectations coming off that awesome August

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not going to say second half because it

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 5>really just was the month of August that was spectacular

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 5>for Marcie. In this case, he's still getting on base

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, he's still providing value on his defense,

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 5>still providing value on the bases. However, Yeah, it is

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 5>he is certainly the weak link in that lineup most

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 5>of the time against right handed pitching that Marlins have

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 5>brought him down from ladoff spot in the number three

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 5>spot all the way down to seven to eight regularly now,

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 5>so you're seeing them sort of lose a little bit

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 5>of faith there. But I think he's still their guy.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 5>He's going to be their guy throughout the rest of

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 5>the season, no doubt.

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:53.800
<v Speaker 4>About it.

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.919
<v Speaker 5>I don't see them demoting him, and I don't see

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 5>them going outside the organization for any outfielders. To be

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:00.879
<v Speaker 5>honest with you, I think, like I said, they're really

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 5>really fun of those Double A outfielders they have in Pensacola,

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 5>and I think this is a good problem to have that, Hey,

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 5>one of your twelve position.

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.839
<v Speaker 4>Players that are good is not playing so well. So

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 4>I think they're okay with what's going on there.

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like we will talk about the minor

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>league zoning enough, and I think it's the time we do,

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>because Kim Canerella is on a here like that guy

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:25.919
<v Speaker 1>has done to Double A and feels like he knows

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the level perfectly. He's been almost perfect. Like, we choose

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a prospect of the week every week, and Kim Canerella

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:33.400
<v Speaker 1>should get it again this week, if I'm being totally

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, at the rate he's going, but just

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, we have to choose a different guy.

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna choose a different guy each week. I think

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Carver would agree with that. But at the rate that

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 1>this guy's going, what else does this guy have to

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>prove in Double A? And I guess we could pose

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the question all of you guys, like, if he keeps

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>this up and you know, the defense is good, Like,

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>at what point do you think this guy should be

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a major leaguer because like it's a legit question to

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>ask at the rate that he's going, and it's not

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like he's striking out thirty percent of the time or

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 1>anything like, like he's walking, he's getting on base. The

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 1>powers there, you know, the powers actually like an added

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that you'd love to see. But like the Hitsol

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>has been great since he's got to the Marlins. The

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>injuries have been the big issue with him, and he's

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 1>been healthy for over a month now, I think, so,

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like Carver, if you want to go, but like this,

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this is like, this is a guy who you could

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>probably promote the triple A. And you can even make

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 1>the argument that he could jump Triple I straight to

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the digs at the rate that he's going, because we've

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>already discussed this many times. The actual competition level from

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>double to triple is not the biggest or you know,

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.399
<v Speaker 1>but like, if the Marlins find themselves in a position

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>where they need they need to address this position somehow.

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 1>If Marcia keeps struggling and Ruiz really isn't the answer there.

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Kim Catarella is an option for this team.

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I would agree with isaca Is that

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 2>it would be a very short term answer if they

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 2>did decide to go outside of the order, because they

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.279
<v Speaker 2>are very high on all three of those guys. I

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>think that that two of those guys, Trimble and Lewis

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 2>will be corner guys, whereas I think Canerella will be

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 2>a true center fielder. So and he's close. So I mean,

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 2>is there a real reason to go Rent right now?

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you really think you're in contention, you

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:11.839
<v Speaker 2>could go Rent Dalton varshow But I don't think they

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 2>will either. But I have that question post to me

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times, what do you do with Marcy?

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>And I would agree withize. I think that they will

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:24.879
<v Speaker 2>make do with him there without sacrificing those great, those

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 2>great prospects that they were very high on. So I

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know if anybody else any other thoughts on that

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 2>before we go to a final break.

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, really quick, Carver, Yeah, if it comes down to Marcie,

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 6>he's played all the time. I mean, now we're approaching

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 6>the All Star break. I mean, so first half of

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 6>the season, it's ben Jacob Marcy, So why would they

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 6>kind of try to move on from him as a

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 6>starter right now? They know they're contenders, but it's not

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 6>a priority because they do believe that the value he

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 6>brings defensively outweighs the offensive production. And I do think

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 6>that is gonna come a time when the offensive production

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 6>starts to elevate itself. I mean, it really can't get

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 6>much worse, you would assume, but you know that the

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 6>Marlins we talked about Owen Casey earlier and potentially sending

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 6>him down, they want to see these young guys work

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 6>through their struggles at the major league level, which I

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 6>can get behind. In a lot of cases. We've talked

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 6>about third base. I think that's the position that they're

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:29.280
<v Speaker 6>gonna attack this trade deadline rather than center field, because

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:33.520
<v Speaker 6>Marcy does provide defensive value there regardless of you know,

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 6>the hit tool. Right now, we'll see what happens.

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 7>I think you guys touched on that pretty well. But yeah,

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 7>a whole lot more to cover on Marcie once we

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.760
<v Speaker 7>know about the severity of this contusion. If they're labeling

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 7>it a contusion, that means it's usually a sigh of

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 7>relief usually suggests that he should be back on the

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 7>other side of the off day, but we'll have to

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.880
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<v Speaker 2>Putting the most unsatisfying sweep behind us and looking ahead

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<v Speaker 2>to Seattle Mariners for a three game series starting what

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 2>d after tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 10>I think.

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 2>It will be a Mariners team that I don't think

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you can classify this as anything more than or other

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 2>than disappointing for their fans. I mean, this high powered

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>offense that they thought they had coming into this season

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 2>with cal Raley and Julio Rodriguez and Josh Naylor. Their

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 2>best hitter is Luke Rayley. So I mean, there's there's

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 2>one thing I want to highlight about this offense, and

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that is just this astronomical fall off of cal Raley.

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, coming off of a sixty plus home run

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 2>season at this point in the season. Last year, cal

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Raley had twenty three home runs and was hitting two

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven. That's through fifty eight games. I know he

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 2>was injured, so I just did it through fifty eight games,

0:58:57.160 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And through fifty eight games this year he has not

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 2>home runs in a taking one sixty one. So this

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a guy that that that almost won an MVP over

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 2>the great, one of the best hitters in the league

0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>is now one of the worst hitters in baseball. That

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 2>is something I don't think we have seen in a

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 2>very long time. So, Eli, can you put into perspective

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 2>this season so far for cal Rawly, it's been pretty bad.

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. The boring way to put into perspective is that

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 7>if you average out last season and what he's done

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 7>so far this year, it looks pretty similar to his

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 7>career numbers, where he's a over. If you combine those

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 7>two seasons, he's still a good offensive catcher and one

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 7>that has somewhat suppress batting average but a ton of

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 7>power and uh so from one aspect, I think that is,

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 7>even though it's a boring answer for a GAT that

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 7>has a decent major league track, occurred in terms of

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 7>length to this point, he's kind of shown us who

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 7>he was prior to last year. Last year was pretty

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 7>far out of line with who he had been the

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 7>previous half decade with the guy that had earned that extension.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 7>That was a big extension that made him. I think

0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 7>that at this moment that he's now the highest paid

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 7>catcher in the game with a real muto having graduated

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:05.720
<v Speaker 7>to a smaller contract in decline, but one that seemed

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 7>not totally crazy, and that looks like a bargain initially,

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 7>and now it looks like somewhat of a long term concern,

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.520
<v Speaker 7>if not fair at the very best. So I think

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 7>that's a boring answer, is that there were still these

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 7>lingering concerns. As amazing as a run as he went

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 7>on last year, where for the vast majority of the

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 7>season like he was, he was mashing like to reach

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 7>those kind of numbers, it still didn't feel like he

1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 7>was suddenly going to be that guy permanently moving forward,

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 7>and that this year has just been a crazier auto.

1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 7>What's where I'm looking more regression to the mean, more

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 7>more severe than anybody could have envisioned from from his standpoint.

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.919
<v Speaker 7>But I think that just is the way that things

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.120
<v Speaker 7>go sometimes, especially there's injury involved. He did have an

1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 7>oblique injury. What late May is when he finally won

1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:50.280
<v Speaker 7>the IL with that, and he missed a few weeks.

1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:52.400
<v Speaker 7>Now he's back. He did hit a home run very

1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 7>recently to show that he still does have that potential

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:59.000
<v Speaker 7>to do so, but he has his overall mechanically out

1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:02.360
<v Speaker 7>of sync and I think almost certainly physically is tying

1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:05.600
<v Speaker 7>into that with the fact they've had such bad results.

1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 7>So he's Yeah, it's a fascinating shift. I think it again,

1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.439
<v Speaker 7>going back to the Joe mac discussion, it's why these

1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:17.440
<v Speaker 7>catchers are not all that common of an extension candidate,

1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 7>just because how much the offensive production can oscillate from

1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 7>year to year due to some other factors that go

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:27.080
<v Speaker 7>involved with that position that sometimes, you know, disrupts what

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 7>you can actually do at the plate just because you

1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 7>have a whole lot more on your plate than just

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.480
<v Speaker 7>what you're doing offensively. So he's kind of a prime example,

1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 7>somewhat of a cautionary tale in terms of getting too

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 7>excited about a catcher for any stretch of time, just

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.760
<v Speaker 7>because of how rapidly things can change. He'll bounce back,

1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:46.120
<v Speaker 7>but for the Marvelin's sake, hopefully it's a little while longer.

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.919
<v Speaker 7>Hopefully it's there's a chance it might not happen until

1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty seven. I do think he still has a

1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:53.320
<v Speaker 7>terrific career in front of him, though, But this is

1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.080
<v Speaker 7>just one of those years where everything that can go

1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:57.640
<v Speaker 7>wrong for him on an individual level has gone wrong.

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you said that volatility with the position too

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and an injury mixed in. Hasn't ever really gotten going

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.440
<v Speaker 2>this year and hopefully he doesn't do that in this series.

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:12.440
<v Speaker 2>But another guy there's been volatility with is an old

1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 2>friend of ours, mister Josh Naylor. This guy, uh, I mean,

1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.200
<v Speaker 2>he's done this before in his career too, where he

1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 2>follows up a fantastic year with a with a bad

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 2>year from twenty twenty three into twenty twenty four is

1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:26.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of a similar story for him. So, Jeremiah, I'll

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:28.920
<v Speaker 2>go to you on this. Is this just him showing

1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that again? Is this just this streaky player? Because the

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<v Speaker 2>Mariners gave him a hell of a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>for him to be underperforming, so was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>highest priced free agents past offseason. The Mariners brought him

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<v Speaker 2>back and brim pretty underwhelming so far for Josh Naylor,

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<v Speaker 2>who's sitting at two fifty one three twelve and an

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<v Speaker 2>under four hundred slogging percentage for a true power hitter. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is is Naylor a streaky player? Or can he get

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<v Speaker 2>past this this season?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's fair to describe him as streaky just

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<v Speaker 6>in the lack of power that he's shown. I know,

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<v Speaker 6>Seattle's a very tough ballpark to hit in, but there

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<v Speaker 6>Seattle's camp was obviously confident that he was going to

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<v Speaker 6>perform This year just hasn't happened. Like like Eli said

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<v Speaker 6>earlier about Kyle Raley, it's just one of those years

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<v Speaker 6>where doesn't feel like anything is clicking. Now, the Mariners

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<v Speaker 6>are still in position to there's still a possibility that

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<v Speaker 6>Naylor figures it out, that cal Raley figures it out,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's got to happen for the stretch run, and

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<v Speaker 6>luckily they're pitching has kept them alive. Do I do

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<v Speaker 6>I still think that Naylor has it in him. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>I do. It's just that ballpark is hard to hit.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we saw that with you Hennio Sworrez last year,

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<v Speaker 6>even when he came over from the from the Dbacks

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<v Speaker 6>at the trade deadline. So Naylor, it could be a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of both. But you know, at least the

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<v Speaker 6>average is in a manageable spot. It's not like he's

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<v Speaker 6>completely fallen off the face of the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>What the Marriers do have is pitching, whether it be

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<v Speaker 2>in the bullpen or in their rotation. The Marlins will

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<v Speaker 2>see that in this series. I mean their pitching has

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<v Speaker 2>been damn damn good. I mean their team ERA is

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<v Speaker 2>three point four to eight, or was before today. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Their team here is three point five to nine, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like third best or fourth best in baseball. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bullpenny ARA is three point four eight, which is third

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<v Speaker 2>best in baseball. So I mean they're carried by what

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<v Speaker 2>Gilbert Wu, Kirby Hancock, all these pitchers are damn good.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of how they are two games over

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred. They've built that up mostly from within, so

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool to see them do that from within. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aways a fan of that, of course, as a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marlins, were fans of teams that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>build from within so quick, hit real quick on their

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<v Speaker 2>pitching staff, You're like, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, projected. It hasn't been a scheduled yet from their side,

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<v Speaker 7>but most likely we'll see Jesus, I guess it could

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<v Speaker 7>be Hancock and Kirby and Wu. The way that is,

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<v Speaker 7>it will probably Kirby Wu and Rice Miller, who sort

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<v Speaker 7>of faded to the background. I think he's been overshadowed

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<v Speaker 7>by those other guys in previous years. Bryce Miller coming

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<v Speaker 7>off the IL at the start of the year. He's

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<v Speaker 7>been their best pitcher, one available like. He has a

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<v Speaker 7>one to seven to one ERA this year in nine appearances.

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<v Speaker 7>Most recent one was seven almost perfect endings, almost perfect,

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<v Speaker 7>not quite Uriar level, but seven endings, two hitter against

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<v Speaker 7>the Angels a few days ago. Yeah, the Marlins are

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<v Speaker 7>going to see some of that, the very best pitching

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<v Speaker 7>that they have to offer those guys that really it

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<v Speaker 7>has been a highly unusually successful run to have the

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<v Speaker 7>same core of guys on the starting rotation be there,

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<v Speaker 7>be available for the most part, with a few injury exceptions,

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<v Speaker 7>a year after year after year. Now for the better

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<v Speaker 7>part of four years, it's been kind of the same

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<v Speaker 7>handful of guys that are making almost all their starts.

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<v Speaker 7>So they've been fortunate on that end, or you could

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<v Speaker 7>say maybe there's something deeper down going on there in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of how they're keeping everybody healthy and consistent. But

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<v Speaker 7>that's been the core of their team. That's why they've

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<v Speaker 7>been having a winning record for each of these last

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<v Speaker 7>several years, and that's why that was so important, of

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<v Speaker 7>course for them to make such a playoff run as

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<v Speaker 7>they did last season. The deepest playoff run that the

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<v Speaker 7>franchise had had in almost a quarter century. That starting

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<v Speaker 7>pitching has been top of mind when it comes to

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<v Speaker 7>this team. So the Marlins are going to be tested

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<v Speaker 7>directly against some of the very best that they have

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<v Speaker 7>to offer. And it's been a bit of a contrast

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<v Speaker 7>from the Marlins, who have had very good starting pitching

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<v Speaker 7>on the top end on and off these the last

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<v Speaker 7>few years. But rotation depth is pretty consistently a question

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<v Speaker 7>as it is even right now for the team. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's it is an interesting contrast. The one of their

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<v Speaker 7>elements to this I wanted to point out is that

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<v Speaker 7>the Marlins do have a better record than the Mariners,

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<v Speaker 7>the Mariners who happened to lead the American League West.

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<v Speaker 7>That is something that continues to the top of mind

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<v Speaker 7>is that if the Marlins were in a different, different

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<v Speaker 7>division right now, the level of excitement I think would

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<v Speaker 7>be even higher just considering where they would be. The

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<v Speaker 7>realistic chance that they have to actually win a division.

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<v Speaker 7>This Ale West has been up for grabs all year long.

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<v Speaker 7>People went into the year assuming the Mariners were significant favorites,

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<v Speaker 7>and so for the moment they're clinging to a small lead.

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<v Speaker 7>And I would say that the average person would still

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<v Speaker 7>expect them to be the most likely team to come

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<v Speaker 7>out of that, but they haven't pulled away from the

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<v Speaker 7>rest of the division the way that I think a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of people envisioned that they would. So one other

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<v Speaker 7>element to that for this series. Julio Rodriguez's on the

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<v Speaker 7>concussion il, so I believe he's going to be ineligible

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<v Speaker 7>for these next few games. That's going to be just

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<v Speaker 7>another small thing in the Marlins favor is that they're

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<v Speaker 7>not quite facing a full strength Mariners team. Not only

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<v Speaker 7>do they have to they're going through those guys we've

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<v Speaker 7>already highlighted that are slumping and underperforming their career norms,

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<v Speaker 7>but Julio Rodriguez, who you know, from my opinion, would

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<v Speaker 7>probably be their best overall player on a year in

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<v Speaker 7>a year out basis, he's not going to be available

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<v Speaker 7>for them. So that's going to be just one other

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<v Speaker 7>thing to keep in mind over these next three games.

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<v Speaker 2>From Marlin's side of things. They also will have the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of getting a little healthier with I think we

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<v Speaker 2>expect Jansen Junk to pitch the Wednesday game. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it could be Braxton, but I think Junk's last rehibouting

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<v Speaker 2>went fine, so you know, I think that he will

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<v Speaker 2>be healthy enough to return that day. Should also see

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Max Meyer in the first game if things

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<v Speaker 2>line up.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, that's the one thing that's already been like

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<v Speaker 7>a penciled in officially as Max is starting on Tuesday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and yeah, and another element to bring up with Max

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<v Speaker 7>is that he's an All Star, of course, but if

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<v Speaker 7>you pitch the Sunday before the All Star Break, you're

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<v Speaker 7>actually ineligible no matter what, to pitch in the game itself.

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<v Speaker 7>As things line up, if he's pitching on Tuesday, his

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<v Speaker 7>regularly scheduled start after that will be on Sunday, the

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<v Speaker 7>final pre All Star Break game. We'll be curious to

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<v Speaker 7>see how that like unfolds. I mean, they don't have

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<v Speaker 7>room to play everybody in the All Star Game anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>But the way that it's trending right now, it looks

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<v Speaker 7>like Max won't actually be pitching in the All Star

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<v Speaker 7>Game just because of the way that this schedule lines

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<v Speaker 7>up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Him still being there. It's gonna be great for him,

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<v Speaker 2>So pitching the games that matter, I'm cool with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're up against the DULI. We're thirteen minutes over.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know we went a little long on Uri,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do want to get to prediction time, our

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<v Speaker 2>favorite segment of the show. So hopefully the Martins keep

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<v Speaker 2>this going. We are catching, uh, you know, catching back

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<v Speaker 2>up into Miami. Well, of course I have coverage there

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<v Speaker 2>from Fish on First and the Marlin's riding high after that,

1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:10.080
<v Speaker 2>that high scoring effort against the age. So catching a

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<v Speaker 2>good pitching staff at a good time, will they win

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<v Speaker 2>the series? And how many games will they win? Hit

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<v Speaker 2>that now in prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my prediction.

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<v Speaker 7>But who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Can the Marlins keep it going after a sweep against

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<v Speaker 2>the A's and an overall successful West Coast road trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back to learn Depot to welcome in the well

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<v Speaker 2>well off in the pitching department, Mariners not so much offensively.

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<v Speaker 2>Marlins have Max Jansen and I'm guessing Tyler Phillips as

1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:38.799
<v Speaker 2>their pitchers against what is been not a great offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think catching this team at a really good time.

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<v Speaker 2>But do we think they'll win the series? Jeremiah, I

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<v Speaker 2>will go to you first. Are they winning the series again?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go with yes. I think they take two

1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:54.479
<v Speaker 6>out of three. This offense is on fire. Auto Lopez

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<v Speaker 6>is on fire at a Berto Hernandez on fire Marlins

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<v Speaker 6>win two out of three Mariners pitching it's good. But

1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:04.200
<v Speaker 6>this Marlins team, man, they're legit and they're gonna find

1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.840
<v Speaker 6>a way to win this series. Auto Lopez MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Great picks, Great picks. I'm gonna agree. I'm gonna say

1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:14.360
<v Speaker 2>that the Marlins are catching this team at a really

1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:17.800
<v Speaker 2>good time on fire offensively, as he said, Jeremiah, and

1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:20.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that if the pitching falters, they'll do enough

1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:24.000
<v Speaker 2>against the good pitching team to battle out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>some close games, but I think that they will win

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<v Speaker 2>this series two games to one. And let's go with

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<v Speaker 2>the other All Star. You picked one, I'm gonna pick

1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the other. The one. Max Meyer is going to be

1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:36.000
<v Speaker 2>your series wp HM.

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<v Speaker 7>As usual, I'll find a way to twist it negative

1:11:40.040 --> 1:11:42.360
<v Speaker 7>when things start going oh so well for this Marlins team,

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<v Speaker 7>I'll have them losing two out of three to Seattle

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<v Speaker 7>over these next three games that I think Seattle does

1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:51.160
<v Speaker 7>have the high enough upside what they're pitching, the few

1:11:51.360 --> 1:11:54.400
<v Speaker 7>rare talents that I think can actually silence this red

1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:57.080
<v Speaker 7>hot Marlins offense for if not an entire game at

1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:58.880
<v Speaker 7>a time, then most endings at a time. And I

1:11:58.920 --> 1:12:00.720
<v Speaker 7>do like the back end of their pen very much

1:12:00.760 --> 1:12:03.519
<v Speaker 7>as well, more so than the Marlins at this particular moment.

1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:06.360
<v Speaker 7>So I'll have Seattle winning two out of three in

1:12:06.479 --> 1:12:09.720
<v Speaker 7>closely contested games, with Marlins offense coming back down to

1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:12.080
<v Speaker 7>earth a bit. And for a series MVP, I'll go

1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:14.840
<v Speaker 7>with Dominic Canzone, who's having a great year for this

1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:18.400
<v Speaker 7>Mariners team, probably their best overall hitter when he gets

1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:21.439
<v Speaker 7>into the lineup, a guy that strongly prefers to face

1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:23.840
<v Speaker 7>right handed pitching, and the Marlins have so much right

1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:25.880
<v Speaker 7>handed pitching guys that, as we've seen just the last

1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:27.760
<v Speaker 7>couple of days, when they're on top of their game,

1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:29.400
<v Speaker 7>it doesn't matter left you're righty who you are, they

1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:32.360
<v Speaker 7>can mow you down. So that's something they keep in mind.

1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:34.240
<v Speaker 7>But in a series where we're not going to see

1:12:34.240 --> 1:12:36.840
<v Speaker 7>Sandy and we're not going to see Uri, I think

1:12:36.880 --> 1:12:38.840
<v Speaker 7>Canzone is going to be very comfortable and do quite

1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.360
<v Speaker 7>a bit of slugging to push Seattle over the top.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>See which of us are correct one of us will

1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:51.759
<v Speaker 2>be in terms of who wins the series, so we'll see.

1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it'll be a highly contested series,

1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm actually pretty excited for this one, but that

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<v Speaker 2>will do it for us on today's show. Thanks for

1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.719
<v Speaker 2>jesting that series with us, which it was a great,

1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:06.040
<v Speaker 2>great series, sleep but just a little bit sour at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of it. But they're looking ahead and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see what they can do against the Mariners. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>have folks there covering it. Got some cool stuff coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on the podcast as well, so stay tuned for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited about all that stuff as well, so stay tuned

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<v Speaker 2>to our coverage wherever you guys are getting it. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you staying tuned to this one as we went a

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<v Speaker 2>bit over time but had a lot to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>so for now on this one for myself, Alex, for Eli, Jeremiah,

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<v Speaker 2>great work at the park this series again, Jeremiah was

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<v Speaker 2>awesome following along with you. Congrats for getting there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to have West Coast coverage so that was cool

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<v Speaker 2>to see and we'll have more of that coming up

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<v Speaker 2>as the Marlins in part on this homestand here in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be back with you at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>this series as we look ahead to what I think

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the final series before they all

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<v Speaker 2>start break coming up against the Guardians, I believe it is,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll be there for that one as well, So

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<v Speaker 2>tune again, tune in again, that to that one on

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<v Speaker 2>Fish on First Live. That's it this one. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you guys guy again soon on Fish on First Live,

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<v Speaker 2>presented by Jetsky Runs of South Florida of course, always

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<v Speaker 2>on the Foul Territory Network. Appreciate you all, Take care,

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<v Speaker 2>go Fish