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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. We're setting you up for a buy weekend
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys of course won't play, but it is
Speaker 1: a busy sports weekend. And then we get set for
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants halfway point of the season
Speaker 1: next week. And I'm excited about watching some football other
Speaker 1: than what the Cowboys put on display each week this week?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what the fans do? I cannot
Speaker 1: live without my NFL Sunday. I'm sorry, I just can't.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna do your pregame show anyway, I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doubling up this week. I mean we're
Speaker 1: paid for I got. I've got more work today and
Speaker 1: Thursday in regular weeks to buy those for me. Three
Speaker 1: days off Friday, Saturday, Sunday, how about you, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm watching some football for sure, that might be might
Speaker 1: be at another stadium. We'll see. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: go fishing. Yeah, I knew Brian was going fishing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try two nice for a weekend, not to try.
Speaker 1: I think Dak's going fishing this weekend. I wish if
Speaker 1: I'd love to go fishing with Dak. I'll see. I
Speaker 1: want to go fishing with its Lyle Collins. Yeah, Lile
Speaker 1: Collins seems to go out there and pullings. He's got
Speaker 1: this system or something he knows how to pull some
Speaker 1: big fish out of them lake. So imagine we're not
Speaker 1: very smart, but we can fish. So I was gonna
Speaker 1: say no. Since Brian went on his campaign to lose weight.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's a lot of weight in
Speaker 1: one boat. Yeah, I try. But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Lyle Collins. How well is Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: playing football? This? You know what? You know me? I
Speaker 1: came up with some questions and that was one of
Speaker 1: my questions. That was one of my questions I had
Speaker 1: for you guys because I was I just kind of
Speaker 1: it was just kind of in my head, was sitting
Speaker 1: there and and I was thinking, Okay, who who's been
Speaker 1: better at their job this year? If you think about things,
Speaker 1: just better at his job? You know byron owns like
Speaker 1: Lyle proved on their own. Yeah, from the year before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who who's been better at their job? It's Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: been one of those guys that's uh has been you
Speaker 1: know as you as you you know, we we've talked
Speaker 1: so much about all the other guys. Heck, I was
Speaker 1: wrong about him possibly getting an extension. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins was going to go off and be a
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay buccaneer or some other you know, NFL right tackle.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Cowboys get him, you know, sign
Speaker 1: him up, keep him here. I think that's impressive. But
Speaker 1: is he has He's been one of the better offensive
Speaker 1: lineman you have. And again I was trying to compare him,
Speaker 1: like as far as your job, it's taking offensive player
Speaker 1: and a defensive player on my question, but you know
Speaker 1: it's a children question we'll pose out there. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: who's who's done, Who's been better at his job? Who's improved? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's improved? Is this fifth year? Now? Jerry Jones said
Speaker 1: yesterday in the radio, that's the best game he's played
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But he's the kid Brandon Graham's ass. He
Speaker 1: really never heard Brandon Graham's name. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's a good football player, real good football player. The
Speaker 1: guy he had to worry about him and him and
Speaker 1: that I guess maybe not so much Fletcher Cox anymore.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've only heard his name once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I've been super impressed with with
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. So he might be the most improved guy
Speaker 1: on the team. I'm trying to think of somebody else
Speaker 1: that is really like exceeded expectations, and he has high expectations.
Speaker 1: He's a starter. But Michael Gallop except for that one
Speaker 1: on one or two series. Yeah, and he's he's missed
Speaker 1: a couple of games. But it goes back to the
Speaker 1: word of consistency, you know that consistent improved. He has improved,
Speaker 1: but most improved, most improved. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: if it's well he said improved at their position than that?
Speaker 1: What the question? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, I pose my own question.
Speaker 1: Well then, yeah, I was just trying to Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let me throw the quarterback out there. Okay, when you
Speaker 1: got the quarterback who's improving his yards per attempt? Can
Speaker 1: I can I prove that for you statman? Yes, So
Speaker 1: he has completed seventy point six point seventy point six
Speaker 1: percent of his passes. That's third in the NFL. Right now,
Speaker 1: all right, and what was the everybody's worry he's not accurate,
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the ball accurately. Yeah, he's third, right now. Well,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. If you can throw seventy percent, if
Speaker 1: you're averaging five point six yards. Here is the next
Speaker 1: one on that. He is averaging per attempt eight point
Speaker 1: nine two yards, third in the NFL eight point nine.
Speaker 1: One who's won by the Cousins is first nine oh
Speaker 1: five Mahomes tied with him nine oh five and then
Speaker 1: dak eight point nine two. I saw this stet on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Aren't there two guys in the history of the league
Speaker 1: who have done this? I mean it's halfway through the
Speaker 1: year one and average Joe Montana was when I'm again
Speaker 1: in slinging Sammy bah yeah, nineteen something like that, and
Speaker 1: then his two thousand, one hundred and twenty three yards
Speaker 1: passing right now is third in the NFL. Okay, how
Speaker 1: about that? Is he your offensive MVP? That's my next
Speaker 1: question for halfwayutely PUPPETSI MVP. Yeah, no question, no, no question,
Speaker 1: not even close. No, He's he's putting up big time
Speaker 1: numbers and there's a lot of people that thought he
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Yeah, so yeah, I'd go with dec
Speaker 1: Rain Dakota I Scott, I agree with that. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the only guys that have thrown for more yards than
Speaker 1: him at this point, uh Matt Ryan. And how are
Speaker 1: they doing? Not very well? Now? They're playing from behind
Speaker 1: in a lot of games and mahomes with twenty one
Speaker 1: eighty DAC has twenty one twenty three. Okay, wait then
Speaker 1: can I pose this question on you? If that? But
Speaker 1: would he be. And maybe this is a bad way
Speaker 1: to ask it, but was I wanted to know the
Speaker 1: player you felt better about now that you didn't at
Speaker 1: the start of the season. There you go. It's it's so,
Speaker 1: I mean, we felt to your point of exceeding it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we felt good about We felt good about Dak. But man,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's do you feel been better about Dak? Right?
Speaker 1: That's the way I feel about him, and I think everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's handled it. The leadership stuff that
Speaker 1: was all there, right, But it's this being able to
Speaker 1: develop a vertical passing game. Oh yeah, down the field,
Speaker 1: it's where the improvement comes. And Amari Cooper is the
Speaker 1: is the critical guy that has allowed that to happen.
Speaker 1: That's true. Could it be that a little bit of
Speaker 1: a scheme change and adjustment has allowed him to be
Speaker 1: able to do that? I mean it was because he
Speaker 1: was doing it the second half of last year. If
Speaker 1: you think about it, as soon as Marie got here,
Speaker 1: nobody voted for a Mari for offensive end Right. That's
Speaker 1: because we have said, well, yeah, oh MP halfways improved
Speaker 1: because he's been he's been doing this. No, no, but
Speaker 1: offensive MVP through the halfway wow, um, we all started.
Speaker 1: Either one of them can do what they're doing without
Speaker 1: the other. I mean I might put Tyrn Smith in
Speaker 1: that boat just because of what they when they don't
Speaker 1: have him. Okay, it affects the quarterback. Throw another question
Speaker 1: out there, who is the most influential player on this
Speaker 1: offense or team? Who influences how well they play? It's
Speaker 1: a lot to choose from. I think it's got to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback, or about the left ackle. There's no
Speaker 1: question about that though. Either well, the most irreplaceable yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: although trying to replace Dak. We've seen somebody try to
Speaker 1: replace Tyran. But see what happens when you don't play
Speaker 1: with a Maori two for three plays, See it all
Speaker 1: goes together. I wouldn't want to play without Zeke either.
Speaker 1: They've tried doing that before. Mari might beat it, you know,
Speaker 1: because of a year ago. Remember what it was like. Oh,
Speaker 1: they've won a bunch of games since Mickey made the trade.
Speaker 1: How many games have they were ago yesterday? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm saying how many games have they won with the
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper Eleven and five in the sixteen regular season games,
Speaker 1: so seventeen and I mean twelve and six if he
Speaker 1: count the playoffs right, and one of those games he
Speaker 1: hardly played in, but they and they lost it, by
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, yeah, that's a first round by a record,
Speaker 1: twelve and six. It's pretty good from and Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: calling that twelve and five because he played three plays
Speaker 1: against the Jets, and really, if he plays half the
Speaker 1: game against the Jets, they win that game. If he
Speaker 1: plays a quarter of that game, they win that game.
Speaker 1: If he played more than three snaps are what are
Speaker 1: you gritted about? I just just it's so funny because
Speaker 1: we all just immediately, said Dak Prescott immediately because the quarterback,
Speaker 1: it's all the place in terms of improvement. No no, no,
Speaker 1: I was saying offensive MVP, MVP. Okay, I've got our
Speaker 1: categories mixed up. No no, I've started with it was
Speaker 1: improved the most thing. But we've answered that. We've answered
Speaker 1: that one. I think we've answered that. We could have
Speaker 1: given a defense no no i quinny I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: who do you got defensively for? Which? Question for not
Speaker 1: the offensive MVP, not the offensive VP, which part of
Speaker 1: the improvement or defensive MVP. Because MALIEK. Collins was played
Speaker 1: pretty darn well. Okay as a guy, and he's not
Speaker 1: getting much credit for he's healthy. Okay, okay, that's the
Speaker 1: improvement guy. The surprise is there was there a surprise
Speaker 1: question there all over the place. No, no, I was
Speaker 1: just trying to I was trying to get to all
Speaker 1: my questions here at a time. You're going to give
Speaker 1: you an answer. You just fitted in whichever question it fits. Okay.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn Robert quinno had been my defensive MVP at
Speaker 1: the halfway point. Yeah, I can't argue that one. Yep,
Speaker 1: I think especially it's like playing Jeopardy, right, I'll give
Speaker 1: you the answer that I was just but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I had Robert Quinn totally in mind on that defensive MBPS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just missed two games and is leading this team in
Speaker 1: sacks and has been a force on that side of
Speaker 1: the ball. So he's got six sacks in basically four
Speaker 1: and a half games. Yeah, he didn't he didn't play
Speaker 1: the second half of the game last week, y't play
Speaker 1: the second and didn't miss the first two games of
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, that's right, So calculating games. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: here's another qu will go ahead, here's another question. Then
Speaker 1: for you if I keep doing this, I love doing
Speaker 1: this to you guys, make you think a little bit.
Speaker 1: Who is the player you have the most confident sin like,
Speaker 1: just to do their job? Yeah, just to be every week,
Speaker 1: just week. Zach Martin, Zack Martin, rob you throughout? Tyren Smith. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might go with Tyren Smith when he's healthy. Zack Martin.
Speaker 1: Sammons struggles with his health too, a little bit not missing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the back and feel him on the back. The ankle too,
Speaker 1: had a thing last week. Yeah, they're just trying to
Speaker 1: manage him all week, every week. Um, like most reliable players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like weekend week out. There's a lot of those guys,
Speaker 1: mister dependability. We're sorry. I was doing my math. There's
Speaker 1: no time for math here, Mickey. When I'm asking questions,
Speaker 1: who who is the player ourselves? Who is the player
Speaker 1: that you had the absolute most most confidence in, you know,
Speaker 1: on the entire team, the entire team, on the entire
Speaker 1: team that they're going to do their job. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: going to play play and play out weekend week out.
Speaker 1: I hate to be jump on Bill's back, but I'll
Speaker 1: go with Zach Martin because he's missed what one game
Speaker 1: in his career. Sure, and he's always there, He's always ready,
Speaker 1: and he's about as steady as the players there is
Speaker 1: in the entire league, even though he is dealing with
Speaker 1: some stuff this year. Ezekiel Elliott, Mickey, I knew you
Speaker 1: were going to go that route. Do you realize that's
Speaker 1: that that they had their total yards from scrimmage. He's
Speaker 1: over six thousand. He's tied for the second fastest to
Speaker 1: ever do that. Yeah, behind Edward James did it in
Speaker 1: forty four Dream James. Yeah, sure, think about that. Then.
Speaker 1: I think Geric Dickerson was in that list too. It
Speaker 1: was a pretty pretty lofty list of players. You know
Speaker 1: what I love what you guys are talking about, was
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. I agree with Mickey. I agree with Mickey
Speaker 1: just I know what I can get. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I thought about paying him, because I
Speaker 1: felt like that every week, I know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get from him. You know, every week, I know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get. That's what people said, like he ran
Speaker 1: so hard these last couple of games. He always runs hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he ran over a guy in
Speaker 1: the first quarter, but sure, yeah, he does set the
Speaker 1: tollon Brian A question. Oh, he ran over him because
Speaker 1: he was silly enough to get in his way. A
Speaker 1: lot of time guys don't want to get in his way.
Speaker 1: What's your confidence factor in the quarterback going forward? Going forward? Well,
Speaker 1: you want to give me a scale one to ten, one, okay,
Speaker 1: whatever high. I don't want you. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to put your number on it, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just you know, it's what you've seen in the
Speaker 1: first half or even or even if you mister statman, Yes,
Speaker 1: eight point nine yards per attempt. What's he's gonna what's
Speaker 1: he gonna end the season with? As far as his
Speaker 1: yards per attempt at games against that's a good who's
Speaker 1: available around him? Let me think about in Minnesota if
Speaker 1: they can stay health flow New England. I don't see
Speaker 1: how it's changing though. I mean, if he's got the
Speaker 1: line and he's got the protection and he's got a
Speaker 1: Mari and they think about these defenses you're about to face, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but they also you got a media guide there.
Speaker 1: I would like to know what the record is for
Speaker 1: the team for you're there, four and three yards yards
Speaker 1: per give me the thing, yards per t I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about I'm confident. I'm confident in him.
Speaker 1: I am confident in him. I see some I see
Speaker 1: some potential. Okay, so he's gonna have to play his
Speaker 1: rear off games. Yeah, Minnesota's defense, Buffalo, there's a defense.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just outdoor games. Outdoor games at the Giants,
Speaker 1: at New England, at Chicago, right, Yeah, there's no Chicago's.
Speaker 1: And see I think you know it's funny about Chicago's
Speaker 1: here about Philadelphia. I think Mickey's hometown team is getting
Speaker 1: demoralized because their offense is so bad. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think that the defense is getting affected in Chicago
Speaker 1: because of how bad their offense has been and lost
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks too. Yeah, but but that but that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game. But here's the deal. When,
Speaker 1: as you know, Parcel has talked about this all the time,
Speaker 1: you get into November and December and you're playing outdoors
Speaker 1: and so forth. That's that's where I not only the
Speaker 1: fact that I think if someone had the time to
Speaker 1: do the research, I think you would find that these
Speaker 1: passing offenses the second half of the year, just because
Speaker 1: teams figure you out a little bit, you know, and
Speaker 1: this is the course of things. They're not as productive
Speaker 1: the second half of the year. But weather con factor
Speaker 1: into that too. Yeah. Outdoors at New England, right outdoors
Speaker 1: to Chicago, at Philly, outdoors at Philly. Who knows what
Speaker 1: they're going to be at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: You know that's Christmas time. Yeah, who knows? All right,
Speaker 1: but I mean answer the season right, first season percentage
Speaker 1: of completions, Okay, got it, caught it. I didn't know
Speaker 1: we were looking at that up sixty nine point nine percent.
Speaker 1: Romo Romo what year nineteen school nineteen was a playoff year.
Speaker 1: So that's when Romo went on that incredible run. Remember
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray I think broke his hand and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it came. It came down to
Speaker 1: throwing the football in that month of end in November,
Speaker 1: all of December. Troyankman second at sixty nine point one
Speaker 1: in ninety three. Then Dak is at seventy something. Right
Speaker 1: now he's seventy and Dak's actually his third at sixty
Speaker 1: seven eight buildings. That tells you what whether he's at
Speaker 1: you guys make a good point. The weather could affect
Speaker 1: the yards per tempt. But Statman had something last year about,
Speaker 1: you know, with Amari down the stretch, well, what do
Speaker 1: you rest of the year. So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if that would drop necessarily, they might not be
Speaker 1: able to sling it around in that cold weather as much.
Speaker 1: So yards gain right now twenty one twenty three in
Speaker 1: seven games, the records forty nine, probably not going to
Speaker 1: get there. Romo in twenty twelve, but second is Romo
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine four four eighty three. So
Speaker 1: that's that's with it. He's on pace for that, right
Speaker 1: And then on average gain, I'm gonna get to this
Speaker 1: for you guys now, average gain Roger Staubach nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 1: eight point nine two, Craig Morton eight point seven nine,
Speaker 1: Craig Morton eight point six seven. But remember they're not
Speaker 1: throwing the ball quite as much back then, but they
Speaker 1: had Bob Hayes to catch the true I'd hand it
Speaker 1: to Tony Dorset a lot too if I was in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they did that. Yeah, all right, when we
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Speaker 1: number eight two nine seven, Right there you go, there
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Speaker 1: Here you go, you go. The question posed out there
Speaker 1: right before the break, who needs to be the Cowboys
Speaker 1: MVP on offense and defense the second half of the
Speaker 1: year to get to where they want to go? And
Speaker 1: I will submit Ezekiel Elliott on offense. I said, Deck
Speaker 1: has been at the first half of the year, but
Speaker 1: I think for them to get to where they want
Speaker 1: to go, it needs to be Zeke so needs to
Speaker 1: be not necessarily who it's going to be. I'm not predicting.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, if if they're going to get to where
Speaker 1: all right, if they are going to get where I
Speaker 1: predicted that they will go. Confusing show today, this award
Speaker 1: show is all over. Yeah, exactly, go ahead, Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know what I think that I just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the quarterback. I think the quarterback is
Speaker 1: going to have to be that guy because I think
Speaker 1: there's going to be some defenses where it might be
Speaker 1: a little bit tougher to run the ball, it might
Speaker 1: be a little tougher to throw. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to keep playing at the pace that Mickey has
Speaker 1: kind of laid out for him there. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it's gonna I first half. If it's if you're
Speaker 1: going to be the first half guy, go ahead and
Speaker 1: be the second half guy as well. I'll go back
Speaker 1: to what I said the first segment. I think Tyrn Smith,
Speaker 1: they need him healthy the rest of the way. This
Speaker 1: bye week comes at a perfect time for him and
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. It feeds into the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that's a different player when he's got that
Speaker 1: comfort level in his blind side. So I'll go with
Speaker 1: number seventy seven. I like that. I do like that.
Speaker 1: I think I'll take the quarterback too. Okay, how about
Speaker 1: on defense because he doesn't see ghosts. We can talk
Speaker 1: about that Halloween, Mickey, we all see ghosts on defense.
Speaker 1: By right right on defense, I'm going with Tank Lawrence.
Speaker 1: I'll second that motion. I think that was a great
Speaker 1: thing we saw the other night, open of things to
Speaker 1: come in the second half of the season. And not
Speaker 1: to say that DeMarcus was playing poorly the first seven
Speaker 1: games or the first Yeah, he's tried, and there's a
Speaker 1: reason for some of the stuff not not getting the production.
Speaker 1: We're grown accustomed to. But I think it's he's gonna
Speaker 1: be effective and productive in the second half. Yeah, somebody,
Speaker 1: I'll third that you got a different guy, did you
Speaker 1: everybody go with everybody? Yeah? Well, I'll say you know what,
Speaker 1: I man, I need Layton Vanderesh to be well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did need one. And I think that Layton Vanderesh is,
Speaker 1: as we've seen before, is very capable. I think we
Speaker 1: saw some good things from him the other night. I
Speaker 1: think we saw something really good from all the linebackers
Speaker 1: in that game, Sean Lee stepping up and doing some
Speaker 1: good things. But Layton Vanderesh is the one guy I
Speaker 1: think that can affect games. You know. I think he
Speaker 1: really can tackling, the tackling behind the line, creating turnovers,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. He kind of gets. This defense feeds
Speaker 1: off big plays by him. I know, Tank and Quinn
Speaker 1: and those guys as well, but when he makes a
Speaker 1: big play, watch how everybody kind of rallies to him
Speaker 1: and kind of gets excited and all that. So more
Speaker 1: Layton vanderesh big plays, I think leads to other plays
Speaker 1: for Lawrence and then Quinn and those guys. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about maybe somebody at that cornerback spot that they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have to start. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: in some games where you're playing again against teams that
Speaker 1: could throw the football pretty well. Minnesota was a team
Speaker 1: that Mickey mentioned, New England another team that throws the football. Well,
Speaker 1: so somebody that secondary's got to have to step up.
Speaker 1: But Laton van rish will be my gay. Well, let
Speaker 1: me throw this out from Clarence Yee on Twitter. He
Speaker 1: was talking about Jordan Lewis as most improved in the
Speaker 1: second half of the year. Had to step up with
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown out. Plus he didn't fit the Rishard mold
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks, so he has that work against him. But
Speaker 1: fast forward that. Mickey shakes his head. Fast forward to
Speaker 1: the second half of the year, and can Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: have the kind of an impact at interesting to see?
Speaker 1: Do you think he keeps his job? Look, the guy
Speaker 1: that needs to have an impact Byron Jones was playing
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Yeah, now it's time for a woozyer
Speaker 1: to match that. Yeah, there's cap and he has the talent.
Speaker 1: Now if he can go find the ball on those
Speaker 1: close fifty fifty balls, yeah, he can make a difference.
Speaker 1: Over there. I like what Mickey's saying there. I do
Speaker 1: like Jordan Lewis, though, and I'm wonder if you keep
Speaker 1: his job. I hope he does. I love when Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis plays because I think he brings that nastiness. I
Speaker 1: think we talked about it last week. Yeah, but then
Speaker 1: why do you think I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what why you think he doesn't play that slot one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. I I don't want to
Speaker 1: put words in somebody's mouth and they because somebody's watching us,
Speaker 1: and then they tweet it over to Jordan Lewis. Let
Speaker 1: him no, No, I love I love Jordan Lewis, like
Speaker 1: dag him on it back and all have said that
Speaker 1: you get lost. It's okay. Mickey will live to fight
Speaker 1: another day. We usually outlast him, like Scandrick. You know,
Speaker 1: he was all over us, but out him by the way,
Speaker 1: that was breaking news out of Philadelphia. It's okay. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of breaking news coming out of Philadelphia or retirement, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of being going on out there. I just
Speaker 1: think that to me with Jordan Lewis, it it's hard
Speaker 1: to It's hard for me to sit there and say oh,
Speaker 1: just because he's shorter than Anthony Brown, he shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 1: You know that? To me? Is that? I especially that's
Speaker 1: the reason, though, Nicky, I think so. I think so.
Speaker 1: Either that or they don't trust Jordan Lewis, which but
Speaker 1: that's stupid to say, because Jordan Lewis when they have
Speaker 1: biggest sigm it covers what they do. They put Jordan.
Speaker 1: They said, okay, listen, by the way, we think the
Speaker 1: Saints are gonna this is the best offensive player of
Speaker 1: the Saint Scott. So let's you know, Jordan Hay by
Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna play ten snaps against that guy.
Speaker 1: I would say last year Anthony Brown did a nice
Speaker 1: job in the slot. I thought he you know, the
Speaker 1: year before he had a ton of penalties and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a great year for him. I always worry about that.
Speaker 1: Last year he was better at it. Even they wouldn't
Speaker 1: starting anymore right, play you know, playing nickel snap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what, Mick, what do you think it is? Without
Speaker 1: he knows, without getting aggregated on social media aggregated, Yeah, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: they source it s the reason everybody everybody's on that
Speaker 1: he got an interception that the quarterback through to him.
Speaker 1: It was a Larry Brown interception. It doesn't like he
Speaker 1: had Larry Brown. Yeah right, Larry, think about it. The
Speaker 1: guy beat him on the route. The past was like
Speaker 1: five yards behind the receiver and it went right to him.
Speaker 1: He also had a big third down snow he did
Speaker 1: in the game. What he did, I got that. Wow, Mickey,
Speaker 1: Are you going after him a little bit? No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I appreciate your honesty. I mean, there's one play.
Speaker 1: There's one play, and everybody gets all fired up about it.
Speaker 1: I think the slot blitz was good. No, it was,
Speaker 1: but if no one touches you, you could have snacked
Speaker 1: that quarterback. I don't know if I got there that quick,
Speaker 1: I could. I'd love to see Mickey on a quarner blitz.
Speaker 1: I just once in my life the same size you
Speaker 1: weren't born yet. I got there. They sent you on those,
Speaker 1: and just before I hit the quarterback, I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is going to be embarrassing because he's a lot
Speaker 1: bigger than me, and if I hit him, he's not
Speaker 1: going doubt how many people would like how many people
Speaker 1: would like to see Mickey out on the island at
Speaker 1: cornerback with student Buddy. Right of it, Eddie, this was
Speaker 1: in the slot. I don't. I shouldn't make any comments.
Speaker 1: You should have been there, I should have been there.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a great answer for Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. I pride myself on either having a
Speaker 1: really bad answer or a really good answer. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people when he came
Speaker 1: out of for the draft who had him rated very high.
Speaker 1: Of course, he went in the third round and had
Speaker 1: the off the field that probably dropped him a round.
Speaker 1: They thought that, and he won. That cleared his name
Speaker 1: of that, right. But the point is a lot of
Speaker 1: people have thought very highly of Jordan lewis ability coming
Speaker 1: out of college. Yeah. Absolutely, And believe me, the coaches
Speaker 1: have been asked about this, Rod Marinelli, Christmas Shard, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: and it always goes back to just competition. We've got
Speaker 1: a lot of good dbs on this team, and we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. I mean, there's never like one of them,
Speaker 1: is he. It's not that he's not one of them.
Speaker 1: They just they really liked the guys ahead of him too.
Speaker 1: But I don't know behind closed doors, if there is
Speaker 1: something else, not off the field or anything, but just
Speaker 1: comes to work. Everybody he does. They need a good guy.
Speaker 1: He they bench him, they do things and like what
Speaker 1: is Lenahan grabs and said, hey, you want to run
Speaker 1: some jet sweeps? Kind of got him engaged again, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of got his confidence back playing again. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just know when he's on the field, generally good
Speaker 1: things happened. I mean, the size is what everybody points
Speaker 1: to just on Chris Richard's history, but Chris Rochard has
Speaker 1: never said that publicly that you know, Oh, it's because
Speaker 1: he's short. Is this his fourth year? Yes, so it
Speaker 1: would be a fragent next year. You'll get an answer
Speaker 1: to your question. Yeah, sure that I think he's yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty seventeen, Anthony Brown's fourth year. Of course, Anthon Brown.
Speaker 1: Right now you get your real answer there. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Corey and Amarillo here on talking Cowboys. Hello, Corey,
Speaker 1: I called back the week of the Dolphins game, and
Speaker 1: I asked that question about Jordan Lewis, and I believe
Speaker 1: somebody said that they thought Richard had a little bit
Speaker 1: more trust and maybe and that I think Mickey said
Speaker 1: kind of you get diminishing returns. I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of took that as you know, the more he plays,
Speaker 1: he might get lost in coverage or you know that
Speaker 1: jump ball is gonna get him at his size. But
Speaker 1: by the way, this guy said that, not me, okay,
Speaker 1: Coy Amarillo said Corey and Amarillo I get. I didn't
Speaker 1: say then returns. I'm all about Jordan. I said that,
Speaker 1: You're right, what have you been scared? I was kind
Speaker 1: of thinking with the competitiveness at that spot, so many
Speaker 1: good players, yeah that you know, if these guys are
Speaker 1: neck and neck, you know, well, Anthony Brown's got a
Speaker 1: couple inches on him, you know that that may just
Speaker 1: if they're so close talent wise, maybe just the size
Speaker 1: of just a little bit to push him a little
Speaker 1: bit forward. That's kind of what I'm thinking, because because
Speaker 1: the competition is good. I mean, our eyes tell us,
Speaker 1: what do our eyes tell us? What do they what
Speaker 1: do our eyes tell us? That he's around the ball
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, Yeah, he's around the ball. He makes play.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's played enough to say that.
Speaker 1: His sample side, you know, he the more he plays,
Speaker 1: he'll fade a little bit. I mean, he played a
Speaker 1: little bit, they're reasoning. Yeah, I mean, he only got
Speaker 1: probably what eight snaps a game last year. Let's question
Speaker 1: the coaching a little bit. Then there I will I
Speaker 1: mean to me, I just I don't know. That's that's
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that, and that's the one
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful in the second half we see more Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: If he spits the bits and spits the bit and
Speaker 1: it's terrible, I'll take the heat. I got big shoulders,
Speaker 1: still smaller than they once were. But I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take it because I just feel like
Speaker 1: he's just so competitive. He's just you know, he he
Speaker 1: tackles well, it bothers him. If he does get beat,
Speaker 1: it means something to him. He's around the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: things like that happened. I haven't seen Anthony Brown really
Speaker 1: around the ball, you know. That's that bothers me a
Speaker 1: little bit. And Anthony Brown's injury situation, he'll be good
Speaker 1: to go at Anthony Brown, I think good to go
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Speaker 1: would have gone that. I would have gone down that route.
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Speaker 1: all right, Speaking of picking out of stats, speaking up man,
Speaker 1: how many games did the Cowboys need to win to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year? I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: had a question about what's the record, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the record that wins the NFC East? I say, pick six, Okay,
Speaker 1: pick six wins. Pick six wins. Pick six wins in
Speaker 1: the last nine games, and you're in at ten and six.
Speaker 1: So ten and six, you take ten and six, kitch
Speaker 1: you six and three the way the way Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: playing the second place in the East last year, Like
Speaker 1: what Philadelphia? I know? But at what round? So it
Speaker 1: needed ten yeah, I mean ten wins probably. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: only way you're getting in the playoffs I think is
Speaker 1: through the winning division. At the start. Already I've already
Speaker 1: projected you're gonna play Minnesota in the first round at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you might be right on that one. You've got
Speaker 1: all right, like Seattle Minnesota. Probably your two wild card
Speaker 1: teams San Francisco six and oh Saints or six and one.
Speaker 1: I had the Rams out, Wow, that'd be some than
Speaker 1: huh Rams out. Maybe they get it rolling in the
Speaker 1: second half. Of course, this is that's one of the
Speaker 1: games on this schedule. The San Francisco's record or schedule
Speaker 1: get any tougher, not at all, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: How about their move, They've already beaten, They've already beaten,
Speaker 1: They've already beaten the Rams in Los Angeles, right, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they traditionally play the Seahawks. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean Arizona the Arizonalina this week, Yeah, Carolina at home,
Speaker 1: and Carolina's playing well, they're at San Francisco. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: Carolina game might be a ten to sixth game. But
Speaker 1: I was a big move, but big enough Emmanuel Sanders
Speaker 1: though they neither add some firepower on offense. A third
Speaker 1: and a fourth and they're getting a twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: fifth back right, so right, and you have to win
Speaker 1: six to the three, right, the sixth to nine, and yeah,
Speaker 1: looking at the forty nine or schedule the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, they got Panthers, they're at Cardinals. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the Cardinals winning three straight games. Have
Speaker 1: you seen who they played to win those three games?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, Bill, we just need to win. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've got Cardinals, Seahawks, Cardinals, Packers, Ravens, Saints, Falcons,
Speaker 1: Ram Seahawks. So there you go there, San Francisco schedule
Speaker 1: four or five games. That'll be tough, but they've already
Speaker 1: won six. So the minimum amount of wins is probably nine.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on if Philly can get things right,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think the Giants or any youth movement,
Speaker 1: and obviously they're gonna try to you know, they might.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have some juice in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. But and the Eagles gotta go six
Speaker 1: and three, just get to nine, yeah, yeah, I mean it,
Speaker 1: you know, has a huge win. It's trending downward for
Speaker 1: other teams in the division right now. Now things can
Speaker 1: turn around. But you know, it took ten is usually
Speaker 1: the number minimum to win your division. Who does the
Speaker 1: Cowboys play after Chicago Rams, that's who I can remember. Okay,
Speaker 1: and at Philly and then Washed Hilly, Washing. Okay, think
Speaker 1: about this. Okay, So you got giants, we call them
Speaker 1: that a w yes Minnesota at home. Oh, don't do this.
Speaker 1: That's a night game, right, Sunday night game. Minnesota. We're
Speaker 1: on a roll. That's three. That's three in a row.
Speaker 1: Minnesota win Wiper Bowl Bill. How about it? Lost in Detroit.
Speaker 1: That never seems to work out really well. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: going back to Mabe scratch his head. New England, we
Speaker 1: don't I think they're gonna win a game that they
Speaker 1: don't New England. You got the New England win. I
Speaker 1: just don't win over the paper. I know you're worried
Speaker 1: about still the Lion. I know you're worried at Chicago
Speaker 1: though you've been talking about. No, Chicago was a game
Speaker 1: I thought the weather could be a huge factor in
Speaker 1: and the Chicago defense and if you couldn't get it
Speaker 1: going and all that stuff like that. That was a
Speaker 1: game I worried about. But if it's a bad weather,
Speaker 1: the Chicago offense will fold. Yeah. No, they can't score
Speaker 1: ten points on a gym floor. I mean you put
Speaker 1: them indoors. They can't score Chicago. Yeah, I'm calling that
Speaker 1: to w the Rams. I'm calling aw. I'm saying they
Speaker 1: win the last four games. Everything got him one, you
Speaker 1: got one loss, I've got I've got I've got at
Speaker 1: the starn between Minnesota and Detroit, I'm torn between Minnesota. Well,
Speaker 1: I was actually I got Heny wins. I've got six
Speaker 1: right there. The losses or could go either way. Detroit,
Speaker 1: New England and Buffalo were the games I kind of
Speaker 1: had circled this. I'm not too sure boy that that
Speaker 1: coach is gonna build a hot seat again come Thanksgiving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they lose the Minnesota, New England and Detroit and buff
Speaker 1: What was it? I had? I had him, I had him.
Speaker 1: I had him with the win at Minnesota. The problem
Speaker 1: the game in New England and Buffalo three straight losses, Well,
Speaker 1: I had him as questionable. Those are questionable games in
Speaker 1: my mind. So you would be looking at Okay, they
Speaker 1: started the season three and zero, then back to three
Speaker 1: and three, had then three straight wins gets them to
Speaker 1: six and three, and then that would be three straight losses.
Speaker 1: At Thanksgiving they'd be six and six. I didn't say
Speaker 1: that would lose I don't know it's about those games. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, question if that were to play out
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario six and six at Thanksgiving with
Speaker 1: the final four Chicago and you got a Philly in Washington,
Speaker 1: you got to run the table. Then if you get
Speaker 1: to ten and six, can you imagine what Thanksgiving would
Speaker 1: be like if that happen? If tense, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: That New England a lot of turkey legs being thrown around.
Speaker 1: You got to find a way to definitely split that
Speaker 1: New England Buffalo. If you can win both those games,
Speaker 1: my gosh, that'd be huge. Two games in five days. Yeah, huge?
Speaker 1: All right, watch Buffalo play, I mean New England play.
Speaker 1: If if the World Series goes to a game five
Speaker 1: on Sunday, that will be the only day of the
Speaker 1: year where you've got the NFL, Major League Baseball, the NBA,
Speaker 1: and the NHL all with games on the same day,
Speaker 1: and NASCAR as well. Thank you for that, Bill, You go,
Speaker 1: Anny Soccer, and there's Premier League Soccer two for you,
Speaker 1: Mickey earlier the morning Sunday. We'll talk at you next week.
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