1 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Did as I feel the same way. There's nothing worse 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: than going to a foreign country and feeling like you're 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: the stoopid one because you don't know another language. Is 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: that the stone? Where are you sis? Facts? Well, Hey, 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: I'm Cadine and we're the Ellises. You may know us 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: from posting funny videos without boys and reading each other 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: publicly as a form of therapy. Wait, I'll make you 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: need therapy most days. Wow. And one more important thing 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: to mention, we're married. We are. We created this podcast 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: to open dialogue about some of life's most taboo topics, 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: things most folks don't want to talk about through the 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: lens of a millennium married couple. That ads is the 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: term that we say every day. So when we say 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: dead ass, we're actually saying facts, the truth, the whole truth, 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth. We're about to take pillow 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: talk to our whole new level. Dead ass starts right now. 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you guys back to summertime, two thousand 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: and eighteen. Um Kas was just born the previous November. 19 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Kyra was born the previous September to that, so Jackson 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: had to be seven. Yes, Jackson was seven years old. 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: And we had booked a Gellette campaign that was shooting 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: over in Spain, and we were super excited about it. 23 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Father soun opportunity to go to Madrid, and we get 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: to Madrid and everything. Of course it's in Spanish because 25 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: we're in Spain. And the whole time I'm making do 26 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Ordering what I knew out 27 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: of order over the phone, and Jackson's laughing at me 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: because of how I say casa dias and I was 29 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: ordering pizza from Pizza Hut. But then they got real 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: serious when we had a day off and we weren't 31 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: shooting and we wanted to go to see the city 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. So we go to Madrid. We go 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: to a couple of museums and I was on the 34 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: bus line and the guy was just like, hey, it's 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: very simple to get to wherever you want to go. 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: You stay on the bus line, go this way, go 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: that way. Boom. So you know me, I'm a I'm 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: a traveler. I think I know trains in direction pretty well. 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you could travel New York City so 40 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: were exactly, you could travel anywhere, right, So I think 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: it was easy. So we got off the bus line, 42 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: so doing a little bit more traveling, and Jackson says, hey, 43 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: I gotta use the bathroom. So I'm like, all right, bet, 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: let's all run into this museum. We get to the museum, 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: and of course you got to pay to get into 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: the museum, so I had to pay for Jackson used bathroom, 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: which a whole another thing. But then when we came 48 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: out of the museum, we came out of a different 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: exit than then we to it, So now my direction 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: was all messed up because it wasn't like directly behind 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: the museum, so I wasn't sure exactly where we were, 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: and now I had to read the signs and try 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: to figure out where we were going. So now we're 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: in Madrid, starting to get dark, and I'm getting nervous, 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and we passed this part in Madrid that looks like 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Grand on me Plaza. So it's a circle with a 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: bunch of streets. If you're lost, that's the worst thing 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: you want to see, is like a circle with a 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: bunch of streets. And I'm looking around and I don't 60 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: want to stop and ask anybody for directions because I 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: don't want to seem like a tourist. And we and 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: we weren't in a touristy part of town. And you ever, 63 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: if you're in another country, you never want to seem 64 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: like you don't belong. And Jackson looks up at me 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: and goes, Daddy, we lost. I was like, We're not lost. 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to show you boards in Madrid. We lost, 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: and I can't let my son know that we left. 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: And in that moment, I felt so small Number one, 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: because I couldn't speak another language. I took Spanish from 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: the time I was in sixth grade all the way 71 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: through college and couldn't remember a damn thing because I 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't practice it. Like I just didn't. It was about 73 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: passing tests, passing your regents in New York, you know 74 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: our region saw and then getting my degree in college. 75 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: And I couldn't speak a liquor Spanish, and I'm getting nervous, 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: so I'm walking around trying to remember you know that 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the New Yorker and me started to kick in and 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: I started to feel like I was getting back on path. 79 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: But now I was getting really dark, and I had 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: the room key, so I said, freaking I go over 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: to a cab. I pointed the key, I said, hey, 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, can you take me here? And you take 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: me here? So then he started to smirk a little bit, 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: so I was just like, you try to rob me 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: and something like I felt like I wasn't taken. Now, 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I have a and if you with me, right, 87 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: So we get in the cab. And when we get 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: in the cab, the cab driver literally turns the corner, 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: drives two blocks and the hotel is right there. So 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I didn't even care. All I 91 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: knew was that once I saw the hotel, I was happy. 92 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: But in that moment, I felt so tiny because here 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: I am in front, in front of my son, and 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: I can't get us to where we want to go 95 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: because in my American egocentric mind, English be all the 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: ends all And I realized in that moment that I 97 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: had to travel more and I had to expand my 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: mind one, two three being around the world. What are 99 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: you doing? That's how the song goes on it, and 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: we've been playing I hated, I hate us. You're singing 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: a different version of it. I'm singing the bad boy version. 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Why he go way? And I don't know where he 103 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: can be? My baby been around the world shout out, 104 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: shout out, yeah, who since the original? Again, no idea, 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: you won't look it up. I'm gonna look it up. 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll come back. We'll do a break and come back 107 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: definitely on my playlist. A matter of fact, were actually 108 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: about to take a break right now, so we got 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: to pay some bills. Why are we going to pay 110 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: some bills? How about you look that up so we 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: can give proper credit. I'm going to go look it up. 112 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Is it Lisa Fisher to the Ladies song that you 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: stole here on that as podcast talk about our seen 114 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: the original? No, Lisa Fishers? How can I use the pain? 115 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: All right? I'm gonna come back to that, y'all. You 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: just being around the world, all right, We'll take the break. 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll get back. All right, y'all, 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: we're back. And I did my research, and the funny 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: thing is when I typed in being around the world, 120 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: what comes up first? Sean Comb, Lisa Sands. It was 121 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: Lesa's ask for y'all. Shout out to Lisa. He was 122 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: the original, the originator. Yeah, but um yeah, that Madrid 123 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: story that was kind of uh. I know, I probably 124 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: would have been asking directions left and right, trying to 125 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: recall the Spanish that I did know. And it's crazy 126 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: because when I studied Spanish back in school, I feel 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: like I was in a really good place with it, 128 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: Like I was able to I was able to communicate 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, you were in the hair salon, 130 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: you know they're talking about you in Spanish. You can 131 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: just hear what they say, you know, little things like that. Yeah, 132 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I used to go to my little spot there and 133 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm just like, they're definitely talking about me right now, 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Um. But just recently traveling you 135 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: and I over to Europe, it's just insane the bubble 136 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: that we're in living in America, and how much more 137 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: world is out there, and you're you're encountering people who 138 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: speak to three or four or five different languages. Yeah, 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that's just like the norm for them. Um. And it's 140 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: funny because when I first was looking at schools for Jackson, 141 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: this is before you know, Kirokaz in Dakota. You know, 142 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: first time parents, first time mom. This is my child's 143 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: first time going to school. And I don't know if 144 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: you recall, but at the time I was pretty much 145 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: taking tours at a ton of different schools. I was 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: looking at public, I was looking at private, independent, and 147 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I actually went to an immersion school, which is pretty 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: much a school that does two languages at the same time. 149 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: So it would be American or English rather, which is 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: our native language, and then another language, so your child 151 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: is actually taught in that language. So right, So UM 152 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Spanish or French was an option at this particular school. 153 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: UM probably would have been a dope experience for Jackson. 154 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: The school which is too far away from us though 155 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: for us to even make it feasible on a day 156 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: to day basis. But I can understand that mindset behind 157 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, because I was thinking to myself, 158 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: the biggest issue I'd probably have with that is how 159 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: do I assist him with homework if I can't even 160 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: communicate with my child language that he's learning, you know, 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: was so um learning at a young age. I hear 162 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: kids are like a sponge. Of course you're going to 163 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: soak it all up. So we might still have some 164 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: time some time kids on kidscas and coda, you know, 165 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: or being able to have somebody like work with us 166 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: that maybe speaks a different language or something would probably 167 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: be dope. Um. But for me, it wasn't even just 168 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: about speaking the language. It was just about getting different 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: perspectives in worldviews. Right. So for example, when we first 170 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: got there, um, when we first got to Spain, of 171 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: course people are speaking to me in Spanish, right, And 172 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: then I was just like, oh, you know Poketo, you 173 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: know outloo englass right glass American American? Right, so yeah, 174 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm American. And the first it was like a bang 175 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: bang bang bang, And I was just like bang bang, 176 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and like, just like, you don't you're afraid to send 177 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: your kids to school? And it was eye opening to 178 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: me that that's the correlation they made that they thought 179 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: about with America, is our kids dying in schools. Like 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: that was the first thing they said to me, Like 181 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: it was like an oh, poor thing, like they felt bad. 182 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: And then they were asking questions like how do you 183 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: feel sending your kids to school knowing that that could happen? 184 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: And this was but Jackson was seven, So that was 185 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: about four years ago, four years ago, and here we 186 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: are today, but same issues, same exact issues, which is crazy. 187 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: But um, for me, it was just about hearing people's 188 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: perspectives about America. Right. But then also listening to people 189 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: and of course talking about languages, and some of them 190 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: just saying, oh, well, I you know, I've lived in 191 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: France for six months and learned French, you know. But 192 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: I was born in Italy, so I was born knowing 193 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Italian and English, and then I just went to France 194 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: for six months. And I'm like, in Europe people just 195 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: go travel places and live there for six months and 196 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: it's normal for them to get there immersed themselves in 197 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: the culture, in the language. And I was just like wow, 198 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Like for for Americans, we feel like America is to 199 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: be all that ends, all right, and everyone should just 200 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: want to be a part of our culture. And we 201 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: say things like, oh, you know, you're hair in our country, 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: you don't speak English, you know, But then we go 203 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: to other people's countries and expect them to speak English, 204 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: you know. And it just made me realize, like how 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: small and narrow minded we are as people when we 206 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: only exist in the place that we're born. Right. And 207 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: if you take it even deeper, think about black people. 208 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: When black people say they travel, right, the first thing 209 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: they say, especially black people from New York travel go 210 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: to the Poconos. I've been to Florida. I've been to Florida, 211 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, anywhere along our you know, 212 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: I go upstate. That is what black people consider traveling. 213 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: And if you really travel, I took a cruise. You 214 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: don't take a cruise and go to Bahamas. You know. 215 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: But when we talk about really traveling the world, it's 216 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: seeing parts of the world that you would never thought 217 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: that you wanted to see. For example, I remember when 218 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: you said I have no intention on on wanting to 219 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: go to Europe. Yeah, that was true. I actually said 220 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: this recently, a couple of months ago. I was just like, yeah, 221 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in a rush to get to Europe. 222 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: If I get there one day, okay. But for me, 223 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: being an island girl, I'm like beach me every day. 224 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, how many more islands can you go 225 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: to into the Caribbean. And I mean one of my 226 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: bucket list things is to touch every island in the 227 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: Caribbean at some point. And while on my way as 228 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: a child um growing up in my household, my mom 229 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: made it a point every summer that we at least 230 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: took their you know, my parents like a two week 231 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: vacation and at least for one of those weeks or 232 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: ten days we traveled somewhere. Um. So early on, you know, 233 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: I had my passport and I was ready to go 234 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: because I saw an interesting statistic. Um, I'd see if 235 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: I could pull it up on a break. But pretty 236 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: much I forget the percentage of Black Americans that don't 237 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: have a passport, like just don't have a passport at all, 238 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: much less have traveled. Um. But really early on, my 239 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: mom wanted to make sure that we were having that 240 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: experience to go different places and then not just going 241 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: there as a tourist, I mean to sit and a resort, 242 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: per se, but being a tourist and going into the 243 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: actual culture, being with the locals, you know, learning different things, 244 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: tasting different foods. That was something that you know, my 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: mom exposed to me, My mom and dad exposed me 246 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to early on. So to think about not having those 247 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: experiences as a child, you know, it's just like, wow, 248 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: there's so much out there. Um. And eventually we had 249 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Europe recently and being there, 250 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, totally eating my words. Yeah, it 251 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: was totally eating my words. It was different. You realize 252 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: how how culturally different and how we consume their culture 253 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: through TV and we think it's going to be one way, 254 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: and then when you get there, it's nothing like what 255 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: you expected, you know, and I'm pretty sure it's the 256 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: same thing for then when they come over here. I remember, 257 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: for my thirty five, we had planned a trip to 258 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: go to Africa. We're going to Egypt specifically and Cairo specifically. 259 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, we have a some name kind right now, 260 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: but I hear remember we ran into to Mika Mallory 261 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: and she talked about how when she went to Africa 262 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: completely changed her life. And I can see now when 263 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: you travel places that you only see on TV and 264 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: you experience what it really feels like, you then begin 265 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: to I don't want to say downplay, but you begin 266 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: to to lose this want to watch TV to experience things. 267 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like this need to engulf 268 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: yourself in television or the phone to get your information. 269 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: It's more like I want to go and that's and 270 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: you start traveling. That's what happens, you know, when I 271 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: felt this. Most recently, we have been to a couple 272 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: of places I could probably just count on one hand 273 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: right now, places that we've been to where we feel 274 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: some sort of deeper connection with the space, a reverence, 275 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and we felt that when we went to Bob Marley 276 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: House in Jamaica. UM. And of course we've been to 277 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Jamaica several times before, we've been to resorts, we've been 278 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: out in the country. I've been back to learned it 279 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: where my mom is from. But so there was something 280 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: specific about the Bob Marley House and being in that 281 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: space and that energy. It's something you can't read in 282 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a book. It's something you can't see on a TV 283 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: series or watch on YouTube or even through someone else's perspective. 284 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: You have to be in that space to understand what 285 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: that feels like, to see what that connection feels like. 286 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: UM and more recently down in Birmingham, Alabama. That's that's 287 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: nothing I'll say to before before we even get to 288 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: traveling out of the country. There are so many Americans 289 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: who don't understand American history, right. So we there's this 290 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: big debate going on in the country about critical race theory. Right, 291 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: fuck your thoughts on critical race theory. Travel this country 292 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: and go visit the places that you've never visited before 293 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: and learn history. You know, you have to call it 294 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: critical race theory. If you really go research American history 295 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: and the full history and travel to see places, you 296 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: don't have to put a title on it. The fact 297 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: that we're even having to discuss whether or not this 298 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: is going to be in schools or not, I get it. Yes, 299 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: history social studies has always been a part of the 300 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: curriculum of some capacity. But the history is actually right 301 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: here on our soil. And it was a simple road 302 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: trip that it took for us to go from Georgia 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: right over to Alabama. Really experienced some actual history that 304 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: we were able to take the children to that they 305 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: could see for themselves. That was almost tangible in a 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: sense because they're able to see, for example, Civil Rights 307 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Institute in Birmingham, what that looked like, living during that time, 308 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: walking through that time. That's something that you cannot read 309 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: in the history book that's going to be you know, 310 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: dictated through a teacher. This this is something I'm going 311 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: to quote this phrase. All history cannot be digested digitally. 312 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: For example, we took our case to the Civil Rights Museum. 313 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Jackson has heard about segregation so many times, like he's 314 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: heard about so you know, I know what segregation it 315 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: segation is white only, black only. Boom. We get to 316 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: a point at the Civil Rights Institute where we watch 317 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: a film on the end of the Civil War and 318 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: reconstruction and how the city of Birmingham had to pivot 319 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: from traditional slave labor to iron mining so they can 320 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: rebuild and become part of the iron industry. So then 321 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: he starts watching a film on how slaves who didn't 322 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: migrate west because Western expansion happened, who stayed in the 323 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: South were still working in the coal mines under the 324 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: same condition as to slavery, but being giving the lowest 325 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: ways you can give. Then they talked about how European 326 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: immigrants came over and was and we're helping slaves, but 327 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: they weren't considered slaves because they were white European immigrants. 328 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: But they worked together within the same confines with black 329 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: slaves all living in shotgun homes. Fourteen fifteen people living 330 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: in at home that's about a hundred square feet right, 331 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Jack and started tear up watching this video. Right then 332 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: it's over. The screen comes up and it's the opening 333 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: of two water fountains that you can actually go to. 334 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: One water fountain was whites only. One water fountain was 335 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: for colors only and the whites were only. Water fountain 336 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: was covered in the iron casing. It was refrigerated, so 337 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: when you hit the button, the water came out cool. 338 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: The black only or colored only water fountain, the pipes 339 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: were exposed and rusted, and when you hit the button 340 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: for the water to come out, it came out warm 341 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: and slightly rusted. And Jackson broke down because now you 342 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to see what segregation was. You don't. 343 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: You're not reading about it and imagining it. They're actually 344 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: seeing it. And when you see this crisp, clear cold 345 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: water next to this this brown warm water, and one 346 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: says for whites only and one sets for colors only, 347 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: it's a different experience. Forget calling it critical race theory. 348 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: This is American history. This is how people lived in 349 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: America up until the late nineteen sixties. Nineteen sixties. And 350 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I think the added layer for Jackson particularly, and we 351 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: were talking about Jackson mainly because he's old enough to 352 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: really grasp the concept of what was going on, was 353 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: the fact that DeVos mom was a part of the 354 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: first group of children integrated into the public school system. 355 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: So for him to even think like, oh, my goodness, 356 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: my grandmother had to endure something like this. My great 357 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: grandparents grew up in jim Crow South, grew up in 358 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: jim Crow South. So I think it was all of 359 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: that compounded with seeing it and being in that space 360 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: that made him and then eventually all of us really emotional. 361 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: Um at that time. But it's necessary, absolutely, absolutely necessary, 362 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: because travel is not just for leisure. Travel is for learning, 363 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: and it's finding ways to make it fun too. And 364 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: we went to some nice places. We went to the 365 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: what was the Museum for Motorcycles um Barbara to the 366 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Barbara Museum, Bibo Museum from Motorsports, and the kids had 367 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: a great time. We went to the Vocant Park with 368 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the Vocan Statue where we learned about the iron industry 369 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: and the contributions that blacks gave. Once again, they would 370 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: call it critical race theory, but it's American history. It's 371 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: part of Birmingham history. And when you travel to places 372 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: to learn about the history, you're pretty much opening your 373 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: mind and your eyes to things that they might not 374 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: teach you, and I might not will not teach you 375 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: in school. That's just in America. Imagine how much history 376 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: there is to learn world history and how much more 377 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: perspective you can gain from life if you travel to 378 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: different places and just see the world differently. Is that 379 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: you know what I only think the world can exist 380 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: this way. For example, where a relationship podcast, we talk 381 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: a lot about relationships, and if you exist in the 382 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: space where my americanized Western view of what relationships should 383 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: look like is the only way to exist in the world, 384 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna be very critical and judgmental of anybody else 385 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: who lives a certain way. Then you travel to another 386 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: country or another part of the world and realize that 387 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: people exist in a safe, secure, happy setting, living differently 388 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: than you. It makes your mind go Everything that I've 389 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: been taught, everything I believe in, has been curated, curated 390 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: one by your parents, because your parents curate your your 391 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: concept of life as your child growing up. But then 392 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: the government curates your idea of what reality is. With 393 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: all of mainstream media, it doesn't matter whether you watch CNN, Fox, 394 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: or MSNBC, They're going to give you their curated version 395 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: of what the world is. And then we curated ourselves 396 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: with social media. Like we said, when you follow a 397 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: certain type of people all the time, the algorithm is 398 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: going to continue to force that same that same demographic 399 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: or the same ideology to you. So your world becomes 400 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: very very small. And it's crazy because I think one 401 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: of the goals I have at least for our children, 402 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: UM and I think it would be great if a 403 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of people have this perspective. In raising a little 404 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: as i'd like to say, global citizens or as a 405 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: citizen of America, raising a global citizen, UM, you then 406 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: develop I think, more tolerance for people. You develop a 407 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: lot more respect for people. UM. And I think that 408 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: just having that broad perspective in general just allows you 409 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: to exist in the better I think mental and physical 410 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: space altogether, because it gives you such a greater appreciation 411 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: for a the things that you have at home, wherever 412 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: that is, and then seeing people in the world live 413 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: different ways, people who may have less than you have. 414 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: It really just broadens that perspective. And I think it 415 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: should also along with the tolerance that it builds for others, 416 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: UM and the respect, but also just a greater appreciation 417 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: for the things that you do have. UM. And that's 418 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: what I think our aim is as parents, you know, 419 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: hoping to have those experiences for our children. I think 420 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: it was great when we had the chance to have 421 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of virtual learning, because it gave us 422 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: the opportunity to move around a little bit once the 423 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: pandemic kind of lightened up. Um, I can see why 424 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: some people choose to homeschool their children, and I don't 425 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: want to work off of a school schedule where they're 426 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, limited to being within a school setting, you know, 427 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: for hours on end, for certain weeks at a time, 428 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: and only give spring break or summertime to travel. Um. 429 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: I really understand now, and I'm kind of warming up 430 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: to the idea of possibly, you know, teaching our children 431 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: outside of the traditional classroom and making the world the classroom. 432 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: There was something that you said just now that kind 433 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: of Um, it made me. It made me want to 434 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: make a point. Um, you talked about tolerance, right, and 435 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: we're living in a time now, especially because of social 436 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: media and coming off of where we were supposed to 437 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: be at a racial impasse. Right, was it supposed to 438 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: be like a racial revolution where people were supposed to 439 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: understand what's happening now in the world because of Black 440 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Lives Matter and George Floyd and Brianna and everything that's 441 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: happening seems like every uh, two decades, something happens. Right. 442 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: For for us growing up in the nineties, which were 443 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: making three decades, it was Rodney King, right, and then 444 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, after Rodney King, there was who was a 445 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: young man that was Trayvon Martin's. There's always something about 446 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: a decade or a decade and a half that comes along, 447 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: and people always ask the same questions, how do things 448 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: like this happen? Why are things like this happening? As 449 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: if it's just a random act of racism, you know 450 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, as if like why does this happen? 451 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: And it even happens with with sexism at times, and 452 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, why why did this happen? Or why don't 453 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: women make a certain amount of money as men. In 454 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: order for you to really answer those questions or be 455 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: able to answer those questions, you have to understand history, 456 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: and you have to travel right. And when we travel 457 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: to Birmingham, Jackson and I were talking about race because 458 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about the iron industry and how they 459 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: had to pivot after reconstruction. So then he said to me, 460 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: he said, the Daddy, what I don't understand is, right, 461 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: why why do black people why why are black people 462 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: treated this way, Is it just because we're black? Like 463 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: do they just hate us because of the color of 464 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: our skin? And I said, see that question. Is that 465 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: is what people are missing when you answer the question, 466 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: because no, Jackson, that's not the reason why. For example, 467 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: if someone hates you now, is not going to just 468 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: be because of the color of your skin. There have 469 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: been ideologies that have been indoctrinated in that person, especially 470 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: if they're your age, that come from years and years 471 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: of programming from history in this country. For example, M 472 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: Edward A. Pollard created uh. He wrote a book called 473 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: The Lost Cause, and the Lost Cause was pretty much 474 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: a book about how um the Confederacy down in America 475 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: is was supposed to save America from the big bad 476 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: black man, right. And that ideology continued with Margaret Rutherford 477 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: who wrote this book on how to prepare children in 478 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: America for American History, and they was this part of 479 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: her book was called the Sisterhood of the Clan and 480 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: it was a bunch of clans men's daughters who decided 481 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: that they were going to rewrite American history so that 482 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: it showed white people and white superiority as the reason 483 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: why America was able to prosper So when I'm explaining 484 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: this to Jackson, I said, so, imagine all those people. 485 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: And you were there for this moment, I said, imagine 486 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: all of these people. On top of that, you have 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: a movie called Birth of the Nation as the first 488 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: movie played in the White House, and it's a white 489 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: man dressed up in black face and the kul Klux 490 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: Klan comes and saves America from the big bad black man. 491 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: Then you have all of these stereotypes and these tropes, 492 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: and and you have all of the coonery happening with 493 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: black face, where they're showing black people in a dumb manner. 494 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: It's programming of years and years of them saying black 495 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: people are dumb, black people aren't deserving of being a 496 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: part of this country, and we have to save them 497 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: from themselves. It perpetuates itself in rap music and in 498 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: TV and in film. So you have four hundred years 499 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: of the same messaging being delivered to young white people. 500 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: And then you say yourself, well, why does this white 501 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: why does this young man feel like he has to 502 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: drive up to Buffalo, for example, and shoot up uh 503 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: grocery store full of black people? And they said, well, 504 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: if you understand American history, and you understand that these 505 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: young people have been taught from young to hate us 506 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: because they feel like we're stealing their country. Right, you 507 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: don't agree with them, you understand their mindset, so you 508 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: know how to move accordingly. So it's like, how am 509 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: I going to teach my kids? Right? How can we 510 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: change the messaging so that it so that it changes 511 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: in a way where the future doesn't look like how 512 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: we live now or the past that doesn't happen without history, 513 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: and history is best taught when you travel. I guarantee 514 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: if you take any young person black, white, Hispanic, uh, 515 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: Latin x Asian to see what segregation look, I can 516 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: guarantee you that young person will will grow up and 517 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: say that's not fair. You know, basically down to the 518 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: fact that there is not fair, the fact that only 519 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: certain people got a chance to use that and other 520 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: people had to use this, that's not fair. But what 521 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: it also does is it teaches you tolerance for young 522 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: people who were brought up with the wrong history and 523 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: brought up to be ignorant on purpose. It teaches you 524 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: tolerance so that you don't walk around with this self 525 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: hatred saying I hate that I'm black, because I live 526 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: in the world that people hate me because I'm black. No, 527 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm tolerant enough to understand that you're ignorant to your 528 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: own history, so you hate me for reasons that you 529 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: don't even you don't even know exactly. I think that's 530 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the biggest part. It's just it's just the passing down 531 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: of It's like a recipe. You passed down the recipe 532 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: for a particular dish, and it's just like, Okay, this 533 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: dish after a while needs a little doctoring up, right, 534 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: And that's exactly where it is. And I'm wondering, and 535 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: I feel as though generations starting maybe from us and 536 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: then generation after, I think there's a little bit more 537 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: of a desire to want to learn those things. And 538 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: I feel like the instances that we've had recently, for example, 539 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: the shooting in Buffalo, the young man that went down 540 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: to the church and shot up the church with the 541 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: parishioners he prayed with, Like those couple of instances, I'm wondering, 542 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: like if they were exposed to something a little bit different, 543 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: if they had a little bit more you know, history, 544 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: if they had some more facts, like they were not 545 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: within the bubble that they insisted in would something in 546 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: their mind have said, you know what, this ship ain't 547 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: right right, This ship is just not right right. That's 548 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: that's the whole point. The point is you get into it, 549 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: you begin to have empathy for people who are brought 550 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: up a certain way, but that it also makes you 551 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: challenge yourself and said, I wonder what I've been brought 552 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: up traditionally that is wrong, you know, or what mindset 553 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: that I did I learned that has been passed down 554 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: from people who live in this same proximity that are 555 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: teaching me things that are bigot trid or all that 556 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: are that are bigotry, or that the teaching me hatred 557 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: for other people. And it makes you open your mind 558 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: just that you know what, before I attack or condemn 559 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: or judge someone, let me at least try to understand 560 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: their perspective. And traveling will humble you because when you 561 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: get to a place where you don't know something, you 562 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: feel small and you can't speak because you don't know 563 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: anything that you're seeing, and you're forced to listen. You 564 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: do that with young people and you take them around 565 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: and see not just your country, but the world, and 566 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: you'll see a way more tolerant group of people who 567 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: can live more harmoniously because I noticed a lot of 568 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: people that I've met that travel do a lot less 569 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: talking and a lot more listening because they realize that 570 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm not in a safe space where I can just 571 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: speak my words and everyone has to listen. I don't know, 572 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know everyone around me. I don't know. This 573 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: is let me just listen. You know What's been kind 574 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: of interesting and rather impactful for me recently, even just 575 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 1: with this Birmingham trip, that we took the lack of 576 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: knowledge amongst blacks, UM, specifically blacks from the Caribbean or 577 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: just Carebean people in general when it comes to black 578 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: American or just American history, and we did a podcast 579 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: on that, I think it was the Culture Class episodes UM, 580 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and just talking about how even my family, my parents 581 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: didn't even understand American history and the way blacks were 582 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: treated because that never really existed within the Caribbean. So, 583 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: for example, my mom being from Jamaica, she has experienced 584 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: maybe colorism and things like that, but actual racism, she said, 585 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: never was really a thing down in Jamaica. So it 586 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: was nice to bring her along as well too, so 587 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: she can kind of understand why sometimes you're a little 588 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: bit more forceful about the way you feel and why 589 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: you're so adamant about making sure that our four boys 590 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: who are going to grow up to be for black 591 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: men in America understand the systemic in the systematic ways 592 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: they may potentially be oppressed for years to come, which 593 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: we hope things will be a little different by then. 594 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: But as history shows, and I will say that your 595 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: mom over the past three years that she's lived with us, 596 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I remember when she first moved in with us. She 597 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: moved in with us in the end of two and 598 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: at the time I was making videos about my feelings 599 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and thoughts on it, and she was concerned, like and 600 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: she was like, devout, why do you feel this way? 601 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I explained to her the history 602 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and what my mom had been through. Like it's it's 603 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: easy to say, you know what, that was so long ago, 604 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: but then when you have to look someone in the 605 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: face and be like, wait a minute, you were chased 606 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: out of Marine Park with by bats and chains as 607 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: a young girl because integration started. Yeah, that's my mom. 608 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: So yes, it matters enough to me, and that there's 609 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing in this world. That's gonna make me stop 610 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: speaking on my black experience because I have to have 611 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: an allegiance and an alliance first to my blackness, because 612 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: that's who I am when I wake up, you know. 613 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: So I can't have any allegiance to a brand or 614 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: allegiance to a studio or to a producer who saying, 615 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: don't say this. I have to have an allegiance to 616 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: myself first, and allegiance to my sons and my wife. Absolutely. 617 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: And I think your mom over time has learned like wow, 618 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: there is a lot of history here that I didn't know, 619 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: and that's why it's important for you to say it. 620 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: But even watching her at the museum, your mom is 621 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: what sixty seven don't age that woman, your mom. But 622 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I even saw her going through the museum and looking 623 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: and being being overwhelmed at times like wow, like that's 624 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: this is I didn't know this. And you're never too 625 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: old to travel, never too young to travel, and you're 626 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: never too old to travel. That's a fact. That's a fact. 627 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: So this experience is the best teacher when it comes 628 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: to learning about different cultures, history, people. Traveling and going 629 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: straight to the stories is definitely the best way to 630 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: get there and beyond learning in the ways of the world, 631 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: traveling has actually proven to expand your mind and also 632 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: stimulate better mental and physical health. I think that's a 633 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: great statistic because I know I feel a hell of 634 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: a lot better when I am traveling in a way 635 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: and getting some time. Whether you go to share, that's 636 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: why you feel better. I mean, there's certain trips for 637 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: certain things, so that I likes to joke about the 638 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: fact that whenever we go on vacation, I have an 639 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: itinerary and I don't like to sleep in, and I 640 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: don't trust me. There's times and I go away on 641 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: vacation and the purpose of that is to sleep in 642 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: and to relax, and that to be that? When is that? 643 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: Because I haven't experienced that in twenty years? Did you 644 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: let me know when that experience? Me? And my girl 645 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: tip bone that well, Tiff Burkett. Now she travels with 646 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: me and we lay down and we vegg out. And 647 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: so how come I get that? Why I got to 648 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: be up at seven thirty in the morning slapping freaking 649 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: sun based around you like a turkey. Well, I learned 650 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: how to do that myself. Now I'll let you sleep 651 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: in and get your sleep. We learned how to vacation amicably, 652 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: I think you and I, UM, but yeah, But then 653 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: there's also those they're going to be those UM trips, 654 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: particularly with the kids that I know, I plan to 655 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: plan as ay the world opens back up again, We're 656 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna have itineraries for the day, and we're going 657 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: to be in a new place and we're going to 658 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: be exploring, and we're gonna be learning, and we're gonna 659 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: be hiking, and we're gonna be doing all the things. 660 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: UM research shows that sevent people get some form of 661 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: health benefit when taking a vacation. So whether that's just 662 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: clocking out, stress relief, stress relief, taking time away, change 663 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: of environment, there's so many things. I think the list 664 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: can go on where I think that's safe to say 665 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: that that's a pretty accurate statistic. I mean the health, 666 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the health. What I think, especially for the stress relief 667 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: is when you see the world differently, you start to 668 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: realize how minisule your problems maybe facts wherever you are. 669 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: Like if you have the ability to travel and take 670 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: a vacation, typically that's a reminder that you're doing okay 671 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: in life right that you can actually take that time, right, 672 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: you can take time. But also it's like when you 673 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: see the world and you realize that, man, these things 674 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: that I was stressed complaining about really not that big 675 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: a deal. Sometimes you need to see that, you know, 676 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: let me stop tripping about this guy that own me 677 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: this thirty dollars, because really not that. At some point 678 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: I get my thirty dollars for sure. Um. Traveling is 679 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: good for relationships. People stated that their connection with their 680 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: loved one improved during the vacation. That be us. We 681 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: talked about it a lot, and I think it's just 682 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: a matter of just being able to disconnect and attached, 683 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: knowing that, Okay, we have these seven days where we're 684 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: not going to be working, we're not going to be 685 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: doing anything but reconnecting with each other. Um, and you'll 686 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: be rubbing me down with oils, oils, all that rubbing down. 687 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: That's what it started. Starts with the cheeks and wants 688 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: to start with. You got to push the cheeks together, 689 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: rub it down, slap it, flip it, turn it over 690 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: us baker man over here baking some cakes. People are 691 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: thirty percent more likely to have a heart attack if 692 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: they go five years without a vacation. What I ain't 693 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna remember that spend where we first got back from 694 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: the league and we didn't take no vacations for four 695 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: years was giving heart attack. It was definitely get That 696 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: was the hardest part of our marriage that we realized 697 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: because we was going on vacation. We were literally grinding 698 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: looking at the same stop walls every single day. Intended. Yeah, 699 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: literally just no. Just because we said we just got 700 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: married and monogamy, it just made sense. Word, Well, these 701 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: walls look the same. They might have been painted, they 702 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: might have get a little wall paper and your walls, baby, 703 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say. No, I'm saying 704 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: that the walls can be different, you know, and change 705 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: up your walls. How you do that, that's how you 706 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: need to change. You need to teach people. And that's 707 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: that's a trick you got. You can't give away my secrets, 708 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: and see how I can't give it with my secrets. 709 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: Of US citizens agree that after they've traveled, they've noticed 710 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: a significant drop in stress. I agree. Women who go 711 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: on vacation twice a year are less likely to get 712 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: depressed or chronic stress. Men are more at risk for 713 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: heart disease. And have higher sudden depth risks if they 714 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: don't take a yearly vacaby. You got to clock out, 715 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: clock out. This is gonna be here when we get back, 716 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: clock out when we get back. Facts. How many times 717 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: have you in a job, for example, been in a 718 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: work setting you have a coworker that you've grown to like, 719 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: and you guys are all cool and then poor, you know, 720 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: coworker passes away, their job description is on. Indeed by 721 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: the end of that business day, baby, their interviewing the 722 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: next day. So you better take your time off. Don't 723 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: be worried about these jobs that. Don't be worried about you, 724 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: your disposable, your cleenics, your tissue. Ultimately, she's so dramatic. 725 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: That's a fact to make sure. If you're gonna take vacations, 726 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: you do it accordingly. I don't be out here running 727 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: the streets listening to cadi okay, because don't be stressed 728 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: about bills, y'all. Balance. Balance, that's the name of the game. 729 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: Six eight percent of people stated that they are more 730 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: positive after returning from vacation. I can see that you 731 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: just refreshed, and when taking a vacation, you're exposed to 732 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: different environments, which in turn boosts your immune system and 733 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 1: create stronger antibodies to be on the nasty as planes. Baby, yeah, 734 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: you still wipe down, y'all. See it. I was wiping 735 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: down and I was wearing my mask. She was before COVID. 736 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: She was wearing her masks on the plane down. I 737 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: was looking at she was crazy, absolutely, and then it 738 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: became a way of life, unfortunately. But I just know 739 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: that I'm trying to protect my immune system because it 740 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: can be a little hairy when you're traveling a lot. Right, 741 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: all right. Six ways traveling helps you to grow stimulates 742 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: interc intercultural communication skills. Like we said, people of different 743 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: cultures have different ways of communicating, whether it's verbally through language, nonverbal, 744 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: through traditions, um actions, behavior, GARB. So when you travel 745 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: and immerse yourself in another culture, you learn and you'll 746 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: teach how to respectfully communicate with other people who are 747 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: different from you. We said, your spain um scenario. And 748 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to get to a lot of 749 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: couple of players. There's a couple of places on my 750 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: bucket list that I'm like, drop me off in there 751 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: in the culture, because I want to be I want 752 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: to be with y'all want to be immersed in the culture. First, 753 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: in the culture I want to I want to be 754 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: able to sell it was a world traveler. I want 755 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: to be able to go to a country and no 756 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: matter what the language is, what the people are being 757 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: able to because there are universal ways that people communicate 758 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: and if you only exist in your bubble, you'll never 759 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: learn these universal ways to communicate with people. And if 760 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: you find yourself in a different country, you'll be lost. 761 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if you've never travel anywhere and 762 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: been lost, you feel like this. You feel like an aunt. 763 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: You feel like the smallest, most insignificant little being this 764 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: huge planet. And it's not a good feeling. It's really 765 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: really not a good feeling. So I employ all you 766 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: guys to just get out there and learn how to 767 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: communicate with people outside of being on your phone. Stop 768 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: experiencing the world digitally. Yes, And also to that sounds 769 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: almost like a moment of truth. That's a good one. Um. 770 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Do your research too before you go places, because sometimes 771 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: things that we think are universal within our bubble is 772 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: not and you may end up offending or disrespect to somebody. 773 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: So I like to do my research before I go 774 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,959 Speaker 1: to a new place to kind of know what is, like, 775 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: what's the deal. You know what's what's acceptable and what's not. 776 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: Doing research before you travel is for safety, Like that's 777 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: huge safe. I think you can wear whatever you want 778 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: to wear or speak of you want to speak or 779 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: not engage in the same traditions. Like you know, some 780 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: places you go and travel, they bow, some places they 781 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: shake hands, some places they don't. And you don't want 782 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: to offend someone by saying I'm an American, You're supposed 783 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: to do things the way I do things. That's the 784 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: worst thing you could ever do. Traveling absolutely, Um, replace 785 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: the stereotypes with facts. This is a good one. The 786 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: things we think people know about other countries and their 787 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: people are often colored by information, stereotypes, and ignorance. When 788 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: you travel, you're able to experience the true nature of 789 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: the communities that you engage with, and you have the 790 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: experience with individuals that help you to not generalize overall. 791 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: So yep, that's kind of straightforward. UM challenges your opinions 792 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: and worldviews. Travel can alter and challenge once fixed opinions 793 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: about the introduction of new in information. It also has 794 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: the ability to encourage oneself to research and learn more 795 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: about what they believe, creating more educated and more open perspective. 796 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: I think that is very um true with someone who's 797 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: maybe in search of like religion for example, and say 798 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: that you've been taught a particular religion or religion, particularly denomination. 799 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: I've known people who have traveled to other places and 800 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: they lived somewhere for six to ten months to twelve 801 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: months and have decided that, you know what, I found 802 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: God in a different way and space in a different area, um, 803 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: and then have converted, you know, whether it was from 804 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: Christianity to becoming Muslim or you know, vice versa. So 805 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: that's also a really good way I think to just 806 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: expand overall. If you're in search of something, um, if 807 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: you're in search of self, if you're in searching of 808 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: peace and where everyone who wakes up in the morning 809 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: is always in search. Like you know, the statement that 810 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: you all lost that goes for everybody, that's like the 811 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: realist statement, you want to know why we are all 812 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: searching for this mystical, esoteric, magical place called happily ever 813 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: after and peace? Right, Like what does it look like? 814 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: And everyone searches for it through different ways they search 815 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: for it through religion, they search for through fitness, they 816 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: search for through love. Some people search for through vices. 817 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like traveling gives you way more options 818 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: to figure out what peace looks like for you. What 819 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: if you can't find peace in the environment you're existing in, 820 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: what if in your mind? Because because a lot of 821 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: people feel like this, Well, I was born in Brooklyn, 822 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: I was raised in Brooklyn. I'm gonna live in Brooklyn. 823 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die in Brooklyn. But that for a long time, 824 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: this is crazy part. My parents used to try to 825 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: take us to travel. I never once felt like Brooklyn 826 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: was going to be the place where I spent my 827 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: entire life. Never. When I was young, it was as 828 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: simple as going to Morristown, Tennessee. And we used to 829 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: drive thirteen hours from Brooklyn, New York to Morristown, Tennessee 830 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: to visit my grandparents. R I P. Papa Charles Edward 831 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: Ellison and shout out to my NAMEA Della May Perry Ellis. 832 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: But um, just driving on the road and looking out 833 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: the window and passing some of these places and seeing 834 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: like little houses of places we passed Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia. 835 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: I always said to myself, I wonder whether it would 836 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: be like to live in one of these towns. And 837 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, Imagine having that experience where you're 838 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: getting on planes and you're going to different countries, different 839 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: places around the world. Imagine like, imagine Jackson being eleven 840 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: years old and going to see the Parry his idea 841 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: in his mind of what the world is not going 842 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: to stop now with American views, you know, he might 843 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: grow up and say, I think I might want to 844 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: live in Africa. Have you ever heard of people say 845 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: that their spirit or their soul aligns with a certain 846 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: place or in a certain place. I think that's a 847 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: very true thing for sure. Um, you know, I think 848 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: I guess I misspoke earlier saying I think it's my 849 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: pride for Brooklyn that made me feel like I never 850 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: want to leave Brooklyn. But I did always envision myself 851 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: possibly being a couple of different places, you know. And 852 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: it's funny because I think about just even like my parents, 853 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: for example, who you know, worked hard, came up to America, 854 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: created a life for us, started in Brooklyn, and it's 855 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,479 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know if it's sentimental attachment or 856 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: it's just that idea that once I have my house 857 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: and I own my house, this is my house and 858 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm not moving, like I just have it and I 859 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: have to stay here. And it's us now trying to 860 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: let our parents generation know, like it's okay to pick 861 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: up and move and try somewhere else, and like the 862 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: house that you were in does not have to be 863 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the house that you're gonna die in, you know, just 864 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: because that was the first house you bought, um properly, 865 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: just an investment, first investment towards the future. I think 866 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: spiritual alignment with a place is definitely a real thing, 867 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: and you can only experience that. I know for sure 868 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: they're traveling. Y m hmm, I know. Um speaking on 869 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: the housing thing. You know, especially in our culture, in 870 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: Black American culture, which is different than Caribbean uh culture, 871 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: but Black American culture, when you got property, you kept 872 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: the property in the house. I mean you kept the 873 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: property in the family. No, under no circumstance do you 874 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: sell the home. Because the home is where someone so 875 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 1: raised these kids, and what you do is you raise 876 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: your kids here the next generation. So it was a 877 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: way for you to have ownership and say this was yours. 878 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: It was a pride thing because you remember, blacks were 879 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: not allowed to own things in this country for so long. 880 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: Once you owned the property, you wanted to keep, you know, 881 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: keep it in the family. But what people fail to 882 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: realize is that that property is not just supposed to 883 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: be something that stays in the family. It's an asset, 884 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: an asset that generate more assets if you move accordingly. 885 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: So for example, if you brought that property in the 886 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: fifties for thirty thou dollars, but now it's a brownstone 887 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: with three million dollars, don't get upset at your grandkids 888 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: for wanting to sell grandma's house. Now you have three 889 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: million dollars. There's there's ten grandkids. Each grandkids gets three 890 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. And what you do is you didn't 891 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: go buy ten more properties, and now you have ten 892 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: properties that you had the three hundred thousand that you 893 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: can use as a down payment and all of your 894 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: own million dollar properties and then you can travel. And seriously, 895 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: that's what the property is supposed to be for. And 896 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important for people to realize that because 897 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: we've seen that with your parents, you've seen that with 898 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: my parents from your parents own beautiful property. I'm not 899 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: gonna say on what street, but beautiful properties and million 900 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: dollar property. Your dad never wanted to let this property go. 901 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: This just for my kids, for my kids. We had 902 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: to explain to him, like, Pops, it's for your kids. 903 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: Let your kids get the equity out of the property 904 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: that you held on in main team for so long ago. 905 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: They can go out and get more property for their kids. 906 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: And it took him a while, but then he was 907 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: just like, right, we have to wait for death or 908 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: things like the tragic to happen to them decide what 909 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: are we gonna do with these assets? If the opportunity 910 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: presents itself, it's like you've done your work. I'm super 911 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: proud of my parents who were able to come here 912 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,959 Speaker 1: and do the things that they've done to be able 913 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: to afford us these opportunities. So while we have the 914 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: chance to make something of it, why not. And you 915 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: can see the see that come to fruition. You know, 916 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: you don't have to wait till you're gone for us 917 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: to say, all right, well, now finally we could just 918 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: divvy this up because it's a source of income. Will 919 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: now have My parents did the same thing they had 920 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: they had a property in Virginia. Well they had they 921 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: had land in Virginia that they bought a long time ago, 922 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: and they just didn't want to sell it because we 923 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: have this land, we need to build a house on 924 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: this land. But it's like, what if you don't want 925 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: to live in Virginia, just gonna hold onto the property exactly, 926 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: just to say we have it. Use the property as 927 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: an asset so you can gain more assets. Yeah, but 928 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: that's a whole different podcast. I'll just when you brought 929 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: up the property, Yeah, I just wanted to make sure 930 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: of people understood. Now I get it. You know the 931 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: value of that. And now, exchanging your mind and your 932 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: ideas of what money looks like can can change your 933 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: view of what your life is supposed to look. Well, 934 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: think about it, because a lot of people will probably say, hey, 935 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: I just don't have the funds to travel, you know, 936 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: and that too is very limiting and that can feel 937 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: like it's just you're you're trapped because you may not 938 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: have the funds to do it. So the money lessons 939 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: and the financial talk is always good to kind of 940 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: filter into these because it'll give you an avenue to say, hey, 941 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: if I'm doing X y Z with my assets and 942 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: my investments and my my funds. Then it frees up 943 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: this for me to be able to have that money 944 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: to be able to travel, because you're gonna need that 945 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Um established long lasting bonds. So experiencing deep moments, 946 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: inspiring conversations, difficult scenarios creates lasting bonds. Think about you 947 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: and Jackson in Spain together after that experience of being lost, 948 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: meeting people with similar interests or seeing someone are seeing 949 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: yourself in p people, traditions, and cultures in a new 950 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: place can create a deep connection that you may want 951 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: to return later. Just like we said, feeling that spiritual 952 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: connection somewhere develops patients. So with travel often comes situations 953 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: that are just difficult. They're unpredictable, like getting lost in Madrid, 954 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: ass getting dog outside there unpredictable, and there's sometimes unfamiliar. 955 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: So as you work through these situations, you strike think 956 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: your ability to be patient, vulnerable, problem solving, reil calm, 957 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,479 Speaker 1: all that staying calm and as you right. It's funny 958 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: because they say whenever you're like your hood is not 959 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: going to be the same as somebody else's hub. But 960 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: usually when we're in a hood. There's like a familiar 961 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, you keep your handle swivel. All right, you 962 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: watch this entrance. I'm watching that exist. You know, you 963 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: know how to move accordingly because listen, things can get 964 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: the very scantly, very fast fun things. I made a 965 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: joke about the movie Taking, but there is a reality 966 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: in the movie Taking in that when you exist in 967 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: the bubble, and that bubble that that's been curated by 968 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: your parents is very safe and very secure, and you 969 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: know everybody, you know, everything, you think the world is 970 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: the same as the bubble you live in. Remember his 971 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: daughter was just like, Yeah, I'm just going to this 972 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: concert and we're gonna stay. And then she gets to 973 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: the place and there's men they're waiting to take away. 974 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: When you travel and you're forced to be uncomfortable, it 975 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,959 Speaker 1: heightens your awareness. That heightened awareness allows you to move 976 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: differently because you're uncomfortable. And when you're more aware, you 977 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: start to notice things and pick things up. And I 978 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: think the best part of being a H. Brooklyn Knight 979 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: was that you could never be comfortable traveling on mass transportations. 980 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: When you're on that B six at eight two, that 981 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: a train, that three train, you cannot be comfortable because 982 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: there's so many exits, there's so many people. You have 983 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: to be aware to this day, I could be walking 984 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: anywhere and I'm like, you see that guy over there 985 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: with the red hat and you you need to be like where. 986 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't see him when you're watching? I said, yeah, 987 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: I noticed everything. He could pass by here two times 988 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know where he come up and he'll 989 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I just want you guys. Are the 990 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: ellis is right? And I'm like, yeah, I saw you 991 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 1: staring at us from over there about the I didn't 992 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: want to be a creep and follow you, but you've 993 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: been following. I don't want to follow you, but come 994 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: out with me, sir. Luck you came up and spoke 995 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: because he was about to get jabbed in a minute 996 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: because I saw you follow us. That happened to us 997 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: twice in the airport. Yeah, but it's just, you know, 998 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: being a Brooklyn that kind of teaches you how to 999 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: have your spidy senses. That's a fact. We're never gonna 1000 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: lose those and build confidence. When visiting a place that 1001 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: you've never been to before, you show yourself a good time. 1002 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: It could be a challenge, but as you build your itinderary, 1003 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: you shake some fear off the unknown. Look at me, 1004 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to trip Advisor, this one, that one, all 1005 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: of them. I'm checking reviews. I wanted where to go? Fool? 1006 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: Does that all that? Use your communication skills to navigate 1007 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: in an unfamiliar language and culture, your confidence and ability, 1008 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: it is inevitable point to grow for sure. Al Right, cool, 1009 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: So I think we should take a quick break. We 1010 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: could definitely have to get into listening or someone to 1011 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: give enough time for that. So let's get into some 1012 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: apps and we'll be right back. All right, We're bad guys, yes, sir, 1013 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: we are bad. Favorite part of the show, Yes, it 1014 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: is this first one because to say, yo, d um, 1015 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: all right, let's go what's going on to valent Codeine? So, 1016 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: d I need you to keep it a buck with 1017 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: me on this one because I'm about to be extremely 1018 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: vulnerable right now. Okay, appreciate that I'm having so much 1019 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: trouble with infidelity in my marriage. It ain't even funny. 1020 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: I cannot, or rather won't stop pulling women. I'm embarrassed, 1021 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm ashamed, I feel like a failure and like I've 1022 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: never I'll never come up out of this slump. My 1023 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: urgent desire for pussy is far beyond what I feel 1024 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: like I can control. And you know what the crazy 1025 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: thing is, I'm never satisfied sex. It's not even the 1026 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: same no more. I look at every woman like a challenge. 1027 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: I was molested when I was a kid by my brother. 1028 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what that did to me or if 1029 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: that's the cause of these strong ass urges, but it happened. 1030 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: I've been sex addicted for quite some time now, and 1031 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm also addicted to pouring heavy, like masturbate four or 1032 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: five times a day while and I have a beautiful 1033 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: wife right there shaking my head, But lately we've been 1034 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: having problems without sex life too. I feel like she 1035 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: lacks passion, and most times it feels like I'm the 1036 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: one the only one into it. Well, if you're masturbating 1037 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: four or five times a day, bro is a good 1038 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: chance that you're probably coming at her a lot. She 1039 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: probably can't handle that. That's why you feel like you're 1040 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: the only one trying. She's been trying. I gotta get 1041 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: her that, but the problem still lingers. I also always 1042 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: feel like I'm not wanted or her attention is somewhere else, 1043 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: even though I'm always doing things to eat her mind 1044 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: and take things off of the to do list that's 1045 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: never ending. Nevertheless, that's not an excuse for why cheat. 1046 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: I have none. I'm telling you this because I just 1047 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: need to know if I'm the only man out here 1048 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: going through these kind of problems, and I need to 1049 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: hear it from somebody who has been there where I'm 1050 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: at and got out of it, because at this point, 1051 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to lose my family. Bro, I don't want 1052 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 1: a divorce. I love my wife, but pussy is winning 1053 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: right now. So many more beautiful women out there besides 1054 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: my wife, and they'd be wanting an find this hell too, bro, 1055 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: fantasy type chicks man like before, And I'm a regular 1056 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: ass nigga. I'm just keeping it a buck, bro. So 1057 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, man, if you ever want if you 1058 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: ever went through what I'm going through with infidelity, porn 1059 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: addiction and women flirting with you and the whole nine, 1060 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: and how do you handle being faithful and staying true 1061 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: not doing it and running away? Seems so much easier 1062 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: said than done when I'm when I've been giving myself 1063 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: whatever I wanted when I wanted four years now. So 1064 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: now when it comes time to say no or stay disciplined, 1065 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation. You heard me having this 1066 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 1: conversation when we were at the twenty nine event. Un bothered. 1067 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 1: I give it to my desires and do it anyway, 1068 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: even when I know it's against the will of God. 1069 00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: I want my spot in the Kingdom of heaven, and 1070 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: I feel that I'm really in a bad position with God. 1071 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: You got anything for me, bro, anything you know. First 1072 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: of all, I don't know how old. I don't know 1073 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: how old this young man is. But um, I remember 1074 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: in college, like sex is like a big deal. In college. 1075 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: You go from eighties, eighteen to twenty two, you were 1076 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 1: living in your parents house. Now you have some freedom. 1077 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: All the dudes on the football team, all the guys 1078 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: ever talked about with sex when we were around women. 1079 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: All the women ever talked about with sex, Like I 1080 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: don't know how old this person is. But college at 1081 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: that time it seemed like the time where it was 1082 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: just everything with because your hormones are pumping through high school, 1083 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: you get to college, and now you can fully explore 1084 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: without judgment from your parents. So it was just sex everywhere. 1085 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: But I remember there was a point, especially in college, 1086 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: where you know, I wanted sex too, three or four 1087 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: times a day, and Codeine and I, for the most part, 1088 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: we're having sex multiple times a day, every single day. 1089 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: Like it was just we were on top of each other. 1090 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: And then um, I got to a point where we 1091 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: were arguing, upset about other things that sex became secondary 1092 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't so much about sex anymore. We didn't 1093 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: like each other for other things. Sex was always great, 1094 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: and I always you know, I have a beautiful wife 1095 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: as well, and I always enjoyed having sex, but we'd 1096 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: be having issues and then them I don't want to 1097 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: ben wanna have sex, and I'm not talking to her, 1098 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: but I'm still horny and I'm gonna be honest. That 1099 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: never goes away. I was speaking to this this young 1100 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: man the other day and he said he was thirty 1101 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: eight and he has a young lady that he's with 1102 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, D Like, I know, you know, 1103 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of women are always coming at you. 1104 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: You're on TV, you played in the NFL. How do 1105 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: you find the strength to say no. Here's the guys 1106 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: on his truth. You need discipline. There's no point like 1107 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: I can't give you a number. Guys always asked me, 1108 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: at what age does it stop. As long as you 1109 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: have eyes and you have a libido, women will always 1110 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: be attractive. It doesn't matter if you're eighteen or if 1111 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: you're fifty eight. My aunt said that my uncle, who 1112 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: is now about to turn sixty, is the same way 1113 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: he was. She was talking to me and k and 1114 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about sex and not having no more babies, 1115 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm not to find a way to 1116 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: keep them off from me, and she said took and 1117 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: she said it, don't slow down. And he's turning sixty. 1118 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: So and then there's no point in your life where 1119 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: you can just say, all right, well, when I hit 1120 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: this number, I'm gonna be done looking at women. So 1121 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: what you have to do is developed discipline. Part of 1122 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: developing that discipline is understanding why you take this way. 1123 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: You said it. You were molested by your brother when 1124 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: you were younger. You don't know if that triggers something 1125 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: in you, but you need to do some work to 1126 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: figure out if that's why. You know. UM, A lot 1127 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: of people that I've spoken to said that when they 1128 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: were molested whether this is a man or a woman. 1129 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: They then turned sex into their way to control themselves, 1130 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: so rather than being having sex forced upon them, they 1131 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: always lead with sex in a way to control their environment. 1132 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people that that's that's not just women. 1133 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: Men and women both have the I think in America 1134 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: they say one in three women have been molested or 1135 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: raped before they turn fifteen, and I think it's one 1136 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: in five men, and I don't. I don't think a 1137 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of people know that. So it's not just a 1138 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 1: female thing. It's a male and female thing. But doing 1139 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: the work to find out why you're so um sexually 1140 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: engaged can help you. That's the first thing. The second 1141 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: thing is if you think you have a sex addiction, 1142 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: which is very different than the first part of therapy, 1143 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: which is figuring out about your molestation. See, if you 1144 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,919 Speaker 1: have a sex edition, you may have a really really 1145 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: high libido, you know, I mean, you may have to 1146 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: figure out some ways around that. But the biggest thing 1147 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: is being disciplined enough to continuously work on it. Right. 1148 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: We talk about marriage being a never ending conversation. Healing 1149 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: is a never ending conversation with yourself, right, so you 1150 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: never wake up and there's this thing going around where 1151 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: they say, make sure them before you get in a relationship. 1152 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: You're a healed whole person. There's never gonna be a 1153 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: point in your life where you said, you know what, 1154 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: I've reached hold them, I'm healed now. Now why that 1155 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: that never happens. It's an ongoing process of healing because 1156 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,479 Speaker 1: you go through traumas every single day in your life 1157 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: that you don't even realize the traumas or microaggression. So 1158 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: I would say, do the work on yourself first to 1159 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: figure out why you're dealing with this stuff, especially with 1160 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: the molestations since you lat with that um see if 1161 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: you have a sex addiction. But I will say this, 1162 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: if you're looking at me to give you an answer 1163 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: as to what age or what number is gonna stop 1164 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: or you're going to stop being attracted to women, It's 1165 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. Bro. Women are beautiful. They've been beautiful 1166 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: before you got here. They're gonna be beautiful after you 1167 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: leave here. So you're gonna have to learn to be disciplined, bro. 1168 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: And you gotta earn that. If you call yourself a 1169 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: man and you really a man, a man knows how 1170 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: to control his desires. You cannot be controlled by your penis. Like, 1171 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: this is the bottom line. Most decisions made are made 1172 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: in poor taste because you thought with the head that 1173 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: isn't the one you're supposed to think with. That's just 1174 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the fact. Most wars, and in pre time, like I 1175 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: think it was in like pre Roman times, most wars 1176 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: were started over women did starting over women. So you 1177 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: have to learn how to have discipline, Bro. Start by 1178 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: working and healing on yourself. I don't know if you've 1179 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: ever been to therapy, but go to therapy to figure 1180 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: out where this is and do your best to be 1181 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: honorable to your wife and your children because you would 1182 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: hate to lose what you really really love because you 1183 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 1: can't control yourself. That's the ultimate weakness of if there's 1184 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: anything that I would say is weak, because this was vulnerable. 1185 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: You being vulnerable about this is not weak. But you 1186 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: knowing that you have a problem and not choosing to 1187 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: deal with it so that you can be the person 1188 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: you need to be for your husband, I mean, for 1189 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: your wife and your kids. That's weak. So work on it, bro. 1190 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pray for you, and there's no judgment here 1191 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: because we've all been through it. You know what I'm saying. 1192 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I had a friend and had a sex addiction. He's 1193 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: worked on it. Um. You know we you know we 1194 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: overquires work. You know. Thanks for bro Yes, all right. 1195 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: My husband and I have been married for three years 1196 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: and we're both active duty military. Thank you for your service. 1197 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Since we've been together, we've never spent more than one 1198 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: month together without one of us leaving for deployment or 1199 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: other training. Now we're living together full time and I'm happy, 1200 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: but he is not. He wants to be alone nine 1201 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: of the time and makes me feel bad for wanting 1202 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: affection and quality time. He's snapping at me over little things, 1203 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: talking to me crazy. He told me he's depressed and 1204 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: recognizes that he's not treating me right. He told me 1205 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: therapy is not an option and will not allow me 1206 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: to be his safe space. I'm not sure what to 1207 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: do if I leave. Wouldn't that be me leaving him 1208 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: when it gets hard? But at the same time, I 1209 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: cannot tolerate the disrespect. Wow, that's hard. I think about 1210 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: even just when you were in the NFL, or just 1211 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: people who we've known in that lifestyle where the husband 1212 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: is away playing, so there's always the space, and then 1213 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: they retire and and now their home in the space 1214 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: in a household where you know, wife and children have 1215 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: been moving accordingly. And then now Dad is home after retiring, 1216 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: and he doesn't quite know where he fits in the equation. 1217 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: He kind of feels like he doesn't belong a little bit. 1218 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Then there's also that search for what's next, and then 1219 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Mom being just like, well, we normally do things this way, 1220 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: so how do we filter Dad into it? So he 1221 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of feels like he's unwanted and she kind of 1222 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: feels like he's a burden, and then it becomes a thing. Right, 1223 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: So it's very it's very hard. I think whenever you're 1224 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: with somebody and you're accustomed to being within a certain 1225 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, level of interaction and then living together in 1226 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: part why I always encourage folks to live together for 1227 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: a little bit before they actually marry, so they can know, 1228 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: can I coexist with this person and not only it 1229 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: be peaceful, but it be a happy space for us 1230 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,479 Speaker 1: to exist in. Um So him wanted to be alone 1231 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time. I know that or have heard. 1232 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know personally, but being active duty military, I'm 1233 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: sure that there's things that they've seen, places they've been, 1234 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: things they've had to endure when you are serving this 1235 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: country that may require a level of decompressing or therapy 1236 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: which he is not open to. I was going to 1237 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: say that, can we just stop right differently? Um, She 1238 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: says she doesn't want to feel like she's quitting or 1239 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: leaving when the time gets rough, right, it takes two 1240 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: people in a relationship to be of service to each 1241 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: other for the relationship to work. If he is not 1242 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: willing to be a service to you and the things 1243 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 1: you need in order for y'all to get better, to 1244 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: get better together, that's not quitting on your part. And 1245 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a proponent for divorce, but I'm not a 1246 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: proponent of one person doing all the work and the 1247 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: other person just being like, well, I'm not doing it, 1248 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: and then you have to feel guilty because you're doing 1249 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: all the work. No, ma'am, that's that's not That's not 1250 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: the way this works. If he doesn't want you to 1251 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: be his safe space. Over his words, he doesn't want 1252 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: to go to therapy and help you. You do not 1253 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: have to stay anywhere and tolerate any disrespect you get. 1254 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: One life, And I say this and I say it again. 1255 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: You don't owe anybody anything. The only only person you 1256 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: really owe in the world is your kids, because they 1257 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: didn't ask to come here. The kids, children are here 1258 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: based on your guilty pleasures as your parents. Right, you 1259 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: guys have sex, You'll do whatever you do. Child comes 1260 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: into the world. Right, that person comes here with no 1261 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: understanding of why they hear what's going on. You have 1262 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a responsibility to take care of that person. But the adult. No, 1263 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: If an adult doesn't want to put in the work 1264 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: and meet you half way here, that's not healthy. Because 1265 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: you're also not going to guilt me and just saying, well, 1266 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: you know you left me when time's got rough. I 1267 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't leave you. I presented opportunities for us to get better. 1268 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to present options for us to get better 1269 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: and do things. And you keep shutting it down. No, 1270 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: which means you want to stay in this space. That 1271 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: space is not healthy for me. I am not going 1272 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: to choose to stay in an unhealthy place, especially if 1273 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: we got children, so that we can both be unhealthy 1274 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and be poor examples to our children. And he said, 1275 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 1: and she said, here he told me that he's depressed 1276 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and recognizes that he's not treating me right, So is 1277 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: that just okay? You know that's not all cases. To 1278 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: recognize it, vocalize it and then not want to put 1279 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: any plan of action together to make you feel better. 1280 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Is telling him that that is okay, that's that's just 1281 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: the truth. Like and here was even more truth. The 1282 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 1: people who defend our country and defend our rights and 1283 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: freedoms to be who we are deserve way more respect 1284 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: than it oft than given. I'm not going to sit 1285 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: here and try to understand what he has gone through. 1286 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 1: I can't even I don't even want to use an 1287 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 1: analogy and say it's like football. It's not like when 1288 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: you're deployed and you have to go and and face 1289 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: some of the things that they face a completely different level. Right, 1290 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: But at the same time, as a man who chooses 1291 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: to have a wife and bring children into the world, 1292 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: the same duty and honor and respect you have for 1293 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: this country to protect, you have to have that same 1294 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: duty and honor respect for your family and for yourself, 1295 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: and you have to be willing to get help when 1296 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: you need it, you know, like you can't expect veterans 1297 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: to do this on their own. And I hope veterans, 1298 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: If any veterans that are listening to me will listen, 1299 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: we don't expect you to do this on your own. 1300 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to. You've done all, You've already done 1301 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: more more. You know what I'm saying that, like, you 1302 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: should be able to come home and say I need help. 1303 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: And it's okay to say, look, I need help. I'm 1304 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: going through something, because I don't want to discredit what 1305 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: he's going through. I don't have no idea what that's 1306 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: but if the coexisting with somebody through that that requires 1307 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: a level of work, and if it's something that he's 1308 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: just not willing to do or he just doesn't have 1309 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the frame of mind to do it, insists you're well 1310 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: within your right to, like you said, not tolerate the disrespect. 1311 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes you need sometimes even even soldiers need that 1312 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: uncomfortable feeling to realize they have to take a step forward. 1313 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 1: So say you say you make it. For example, you said, 1314 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I think we need to get separated 1315 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: so I can figure out what's best for me. And 1316 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: then he comes home a couple of days and his 1317 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: wife and his children not there. That may be the 1318 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: thing that clicks inside of him that says I need 1319 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: to do something to move forward to get my family back, 1320 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 1: you know. But but I do think you're enabling him 1321 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 1: if you just sit back and allow him to self 1322 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: loathe and let you be the object of his aggression 1323 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and his depression, because now he won't feel like he's 1324 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: doing anything wrong if he can just unload and unleash 1325 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: on you. You know, he doesn't deserve that. You don't 1326 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 1: deserve that. I'm going to pray for both of you, because, um, 1327 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: anytime my my my grandfather was a war vetan. He 1328 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: fought in the Korean War, and he had his ways, 1329 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: sometimes snapping when you lose it. And I remember when 1330 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 1: my grandmother told the story when he first came back, 1331 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 1: you just have to wake him up with a broom 1332 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: because when he was sleeping, he would if she would 1333 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: just touch him, he would wake up ready to you know, 1334 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: because he said when he first came back, she that's 1335 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: what she had to work on. That's what she did, 1336 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: and eventually, you know, going through the process, they were 1337 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 1: able to get back to normal. But there's nothing like 1338 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: being a spouse to a vet like that's one of 1339 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: the hardest things. And I salute you both both of 1340 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: you guys e vets Um. I don't know if they're 1341 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 1: both active still duty, but yeah, she said, if you're 1342 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: both still active, then you're not veterans. We appreciate your 1343 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 1: service and we're gonna pray for you. And I have 1344 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: the utmost confidence that as two people were fought for 1345 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: this country, y'all are going to fight for your marriage 1346 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 1: and make it work. Yeah. Absolutely that go sign on that. Alright, 1347 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: y'all those are two really good listener that is this week. 1348 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: And if you want to be featured, you can go 1349 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 1: ahead and write us. It's never too late. Email us 1350 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: at dead assid advice at gmail dot com. That's d 1351 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 1: E A D A S S A d V I 1352 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: C E at gmail dot com. Alright, moment of truth time. 1353 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 1: We talked traveling, expanding your horizons, Moment of truth, spreading 1354 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,560 Speaker 1: your rings in fly travel, get out my head I 1355 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 1: mache that was gonna be my thing. We should be 1356 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: spoke all about it in this episo Travel. 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