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I will read it at the end of 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.960 the show in a segment we call feedbag or feedback, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.600 one of those things I keep going back and forth. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.959 I should actually call it feedbag, but we'll say that's 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.959 actually my notes inside my notes app. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.240 Oh, my notes app. What a mess. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.319 Last week, I told you that I switched to Notion 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.240 this week. Midway through I realized that may have been 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.200 a mistake. So let me bring you up to speed 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.959 on what happened this week. I was an Evernote user 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.760 for many, many years. Evernote sort of closed up shop 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.160 in San Francisco. They laid off a bunch of people. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.640 They were sold to a company in Italy, a company 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.720 that actually makes one of the apps that I really like, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.520 called Splice, and a lot of people have kind of 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.680 are worried about the future of ever note. This is 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.880 an app that started I think about nineteen years ago, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.640 and at the beginning I remember downloading it. At the beginning, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.000 it was an endless scroll of notes, so it was 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.600 just literally this endless, endless scroll. You can just type, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.120 you know, anything you wanted in there, and then just 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.560 kind of roll up the scroll and start a new note, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.760 and it would just be like this ongoing note. And 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.280 then it got more evolved over the years into this 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:29.320 sort of folders and to do lists and contact cards 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.440 and voice memos. It just became like the Swiss Army 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:38.800 Knife of note taking apps. Available on all platforms Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.720 and it just became this really robust note taking tool 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.399 until it got kind of slow and just too many 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.560 features that I personally didn't need. I needed the basic features, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.919 and then they took away features where you can only 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.239 sync it across a certain amount of devices for free, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.040 and so it pushed you to pay for the you know, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.839 the plans. And now this thing I was just looking today, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.360 it's up to one hundred and thirty dollars a year 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.040 who just for taking notes. Now there is a free level, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.000 and the free level will do pretty much what you need. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.320 You can take notes, you can sync up to two devices, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.960 You get a certain amount of monthly uploads, a certain 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.800 amount of maximum note size. You can clip web pages, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.800 and I think this was my favorite feature, is the 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.080 ability to clip web pages because if you're doing a 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.640 radio show or a TV segment. For me personally, I 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.399 like to keep a lot of things that I sort 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.840 of clip from the Internet to talk about and to 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.400 remember later, and so I love the way that it 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.240 can just distill the best part of a web page 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.640 and clip that. So that is still probably one of 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.440 the best features of ever note anyway. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:44.520 So I switched this week. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.440 I put everything in Notion and I just figured I 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.760 would try a different app, and Notion has been really good. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.360 But and Notion is like one of these apps that 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.960 a lot of people are using because it's again it's 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.320 like a Swiss army knife, but it's much more high tech. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.800 So it is available across all the platforms iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.320 and it's just really slick. My biggest problem with Notion 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.880 actually and ever note, are the icons for the apps 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.760 don't match all my other apps, and it just really 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.159 bugs me Notion especially for some reason I don't know, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.159 so I'm like a perfectionist with my icons, and it 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.560 has kind of this weird three D icon that I 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.760 don't like. So Notion please fix that, make it standardized. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.080 But Notion's really cool because it is very robust in 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.360 what you can do. You can make different tables and 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.880 blocks and formats, and it just has a million different 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.839 ways of using it. And no two people are going 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.479 to use this app the same way. But at its base, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.040 you can clip things from the web, you can make folders, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.920 you can nest things, you can make notes. It all 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.960 works really well. But I ran into a problem this 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.200 week of the formatting. I like my note taking app 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.960 in a certain format, which is basically three columns. The 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.200 left column are the folders, the second column are sort 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.200 of the items in that folder, and then the third 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.000 column is what's inside that note. And Notion gives me 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.480 two of those three things. I can't seem to keep 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.640 the side panel open and just flip through my notes 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.240 so I can easily just see them. You have to 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.479 kind of open each note individually, and so this week 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.560 I was just like, Ah, this is really bugging me. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.760 Plus making a new note you have to kind of 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.640 have a place for it. So Notion is great, but 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.160 it's I'm finding that it's a little bit more work 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.400 than I need. And the neat thing about Notion again, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.360 it's free. You can pretty much do everything you need 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.480 for free, but if you want to upgrade, it's eight 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.240 dollars per user per month, build annually. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:37.920 If you pay monthly, it's ten dollars. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.600 And I'm noticing that all these apps are sort of 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.520 free for their basics, but if you want to get 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.040 to the next level, you got to pay. So another 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.440 app that I tried this week is called one Note. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.440 This is made by Microsoft. Again, it's available across all 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.120 the platforms, and I would say one Note is probably 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.479 the most similar to ever note because it looks like 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.760 Outlook and it does all all the three things I 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.400 mentioned where it has the three columns of data, so 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.400 I can see my notebooks, I can see the notes, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.080 and then I can see what's in the note. The 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.560 problem with one Note is the way that it takes 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:15.479 the notes. It's this weird freeform canvas inside your note 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.320 where you can start typing all the way in the 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.120 lower right hand portion of a note and leave your 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.159 text there, or you can type in the upper right 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.160 hand portion or the lower left hand So it's kind 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.479 of like this free form canvas that really throws me 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.080 off because I like to be organized, and having text 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.440 in the middle of nowhere I don't like. Now some 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.279 people may like that, I do not. And so one 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.480 Note is really great and it's free and it uses 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.159 your one drive storage or yeah, so it's like really easy, 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.120 but it's just kind of all over the place. And 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.040 so for that reason, and specifically my problem with that 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:54.480 on mac os is printing is just impossible. You cannot 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.080 print out a note on one piece of paper. It 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.920 does not format the note properly. It's a non ish 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.560 If you look on Reddit, you see people talking about it. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.760 It's just really odd that they would have that issue. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.039 Then I tried Google Keep, which is of course cross platform, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.920 but again it's too simple. It's too too simple, and 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.560 there's no easy print option there. Now I keep going 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.520 back to Apple Notes because it has every single feature 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.960 I need. It's got the organization I like, it's got 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.920 handwritten notes, it's got audio, it's got great folders, it 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.880 is super robust. It does every single thing I want, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.800 except it is not cross platform. You can't access your 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.240 Apple Notes on an Android phone or a Windows computer easily. Yeah, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.920 maybe you could use iCloud to do it, but I'm 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.600 not doing that. I need a native app. And so 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.280 Apple Notes really bugs me because it's like I message, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.520 it's like, just make it for everyone, and of course 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.480 they don't. Then I tried I'm really digging deep. Now 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.400 I tried this one called Joplin. This is free and 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.400 open source. This is literally made by some person, one 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.760 person who develops this app. It's very similar to Evernoe. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.960 This does almost everything I want, except I'm a little 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.080 concerned that it's you know, one person developing this app. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.840 It is free, it's open source, it's got apps for Windows, Mac, Os, Linux, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:19.440 even Android. You can attach things. They look great. It's 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.360 just I'm a little concerned moving all of my stuff 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.360 into one app that's just developed by one person. So 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.720 I don't know. I may stick with Joplin. Then I 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:34.200 tried Obsidian. This is another markdown app, which is really cool, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.560 but it was a little bit too complicated for me, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.000 and sinking across platforms was a little bit complicated as well, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.120 because I just didn't really understand how to sink. So 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.360 Obsidian is cool. It's totally free forever. If you want 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.640 to pay for commercial use, it's fifty bucks a year. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.360 It does sink. I guess they have an Obsidian sink, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:55.920 but you do have to pay eight dollars a month 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.600 for that sink feature. Obsidian was actually pretty good. This 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.240 was probably one of my favorites, except for I found 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.079 some issue with it and I deleted it off my computer. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.400 I don't know. I might go back to Obsidian see 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:08.719 what I. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.120 Deal with all week. Nimbus is also one of my favorites. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.280 I ended up really liking Nimbus. Note it worked really well. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.360 It has all the features I want, except it's a 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.720 little bit wonky In the interface, it's like a little 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.880 bit slower than I want it to work. It looks 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.640 like it's pulling everything from the web every time. But 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.440 Nimbus is actually another note taking app that I think 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.480 has a lot of promise, But I don't know how 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.360 many people are using this app, so I'm concerned. And 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.880 then finally I checked out an app called simple Note. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.320 Now this one if you just want simple notes. It 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.280 is really really good, except for the fact that it's 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.400 not very good for pictures or PDFs. You can't toss 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.760 those into your documents because this is really just text based, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.440 and so it's great. But it's really really simple, so 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.720 you have to literally you've got to The name says 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.240 it all. This is just for simple notes. It's really 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.000 really simple, really really beautiful. But it is just for 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.640 simple note taking. So I don't know where that leaves 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.640 me today. At this point, I'm using right now on 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.920 my computer screen. I will tell you what's open Notion, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.040 one Note, Joplin, Ever, note Notes, and Nimbus. So I 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.600 am lost. I am like in a sea of note 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.040 taking apps and I am just using too many of them. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.200 And now I am back before where I started, and 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.080 I'm at a place where this is just I don't know. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.000 I'm not getting to the place where I need to be. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.120 So if you have a note taking app that you like, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.840 let me know, because I just can't find it. I 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.520 can't find the one that works for me. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.280 I hope I've made that nice and confusing for you. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.080 All right. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.920 Coming up, we've got a great show. Oh but a 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.319 producer Bobo is showing me pen and paper. I did 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.280 try that too. You know that's not backed up to 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.960 the cloud though. That's the problem with that. Then I 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:52.960 got to take pictures of it. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:53.880 I don't know. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.080 All right. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:59.000 Coming up on today's show, Gmail is asking users to 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.560 turn on something called insane Enhanced Safe Browsing. I'm gonna 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.520 explain what that means. We've got some good guests. Ben Parr, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.480 author of the AI Analyst newsletter. He's gonna explain what's 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.280 new in AI, including a new chatbot that I've been 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.920 loving called Claude, why Meta is making their AI tool 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.880 for free, and he's got this AI cheat sheet you 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:24.040 should definitely download. Kyle Young of Nothing VP of Nothing's 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.960 gonna talk about one of my favorite phones of the year. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.960 We talked about this a little bit last week the 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.240 Nothing Phone two. He will join us to talk that, 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.520 and then later in the show, travel expert Johnny Jet 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.480 is gonna explain the high tech travel scam you should 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.480 be aware of. But first it's your turn. We're gonna 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.880 have your calls coming up throughout the show at triple 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.360 eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:46.840 pour two four. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:47.800 To one zero one. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.400 Give me a call if you have a question about technology. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.120 My name is rich Demiro and you are listening to 0:11:54.600 --> 0:12:01.120 Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:06.800 DeMuro here talking technology with you. This week, the tech 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.120 world lost one of their most notable hackers. Kevin Mitnick 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.160 was a famous hacker in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.880 What he was good at hacking into phones and computers 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.440 social engineering. He would trick people who worked at big 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.600 tech companies into giving him passwords and information, something that 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.960 still happens to this day. This allowed him to steal 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.080 software and data. The government said Mitnick caused millions of 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.080 dollars in damages. He went to jail for nearly five years, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.360 but after he got out, he stopped his illegal hacking 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.320 and became an expert on cybersecurity. In fact, the company 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.760 he worked for, we've had guests on the show here 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.760 to talk about it. They do cybersecurity training for employees 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.439 at companies to help them understand these types of attacks. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.640 He then helped companies protect their systems from the type 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.040 of hacks that he did. He wrote books, and of 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.360 course was a big speaker. He ended up showing that 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.280 hackers could change from breaking the law to using their 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:06.160 skills for good. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.200 His story helped people. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.120 Understand hacking better when this was still a new thing, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.120 and he went from fugitive to a respected cybersecurity professional. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.600 Mittnick died young fifty nine from cancer. He was once 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.000 seen as a threat, but later he taught companies how 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.040 to avoid the same kinds of hacks that he used 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.840 to do. Kevin Mitnick rest in peace. All right, let's 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.720 start off this hour with a phone call. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:33.920 Here. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:34.760 Let's go to. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.800 David in Melbourne, Florida. David, you're on with Rich. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.560 Hey, great, I just have this really weird thing that 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.080 I've never had. When I ran in before, I bought 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.400 a new battery pack for my HP notebook, and it 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.360 came with a little book and I stupidly started reading 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.080 it and then I'm like, what are they talking about? Anyways, Basically, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.120 there seems to be some They're implying that there's some 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.040 rom in the actual battery pack that needs to interface 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.560 with the software of the computer that's going to which 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.320 this case is Windows eleven, and they give you some 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:17.280 instructions about how to completely drain the battery so it's 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.720 set to zero, and the whole part the point of 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.280 all of this is apparently so that the battery indicator 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.840 from high to low is always consistent with what the 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.640 battery really performs. Have you ever run into that, I 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.320 heard of it, or this is like new. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.280 News to me. I've never done that to any batteries. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.600 That also recommends that you just tried your battery completely 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.360 with that same feature about every three to six months 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:41.880 or something. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.040 So I think what's happening here is that as batteries 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.240 have gotten a little bit more high tech, the computer 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.600 needs to know, since this is a new battery pack, hey, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.240 what's full on this battery, what's empty on this battery? 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.880 And so by charging it full and then letting it 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.520 run down completely and maybe doing that once or twice, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.080 the computer is going to get an understanding of how 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.800 this battery works when it's full when it's empty, and 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.200 the software I think will do that. On smartphones, this 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.480 is usually called adaptive battery or battery optimization, and it 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.240 typically happens even on the iPhone. When you do a 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.920 major software update, people notice that their battery is kind 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.440 of wonky, like the percentage. It might go up or 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.640 down really quickly because the phone is trying to learn 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.680 how you use this. So I would think that's the 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.840 same for this. So once you replace the battery in 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:38.720 this laptop, I would go ahead and then charge it fully, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.640 let it run down fully, charge it again fully, let 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.520 it run down fully, and that should give the operating 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.840 system the full understanding of the capabilities of this battery. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.560 So I think it's one of those things that you know, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.840 the battery is probably telling you you have to do this. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.920 Do you have to do you know, a concerted effort 0:15:59.000 --> 0:15:59.760 to make this happen. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.360 Not. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.080 I think your computer is gonna be just fine. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.520 It's a fresh battery to begin with, and the fact 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.880 that you can replace that battery is a good thing. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.240 So David, thanks for the call, appreciate that and get 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.200 it set up, put it in and uh, I think 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.200 after a couple of weeks, you'll notice that the computer 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.680 will let you know when the battery is good, when 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.000 the battery needs to be charged. But if it's like me, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.600 I'm just kind of charging my laptop almost all the time, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.200 which I know definitely drains the battery more than you 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.640 know understanding it. But these these this software has so 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.680 much software these days, has so much smarts built in 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.640 that kind of optimizes the battery to begin with. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.080 So good question, thanks for calling today. I appreciate it. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.320 Triple eight rich one one eight eight eight seven four 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.200 to two four to one zero one. If you use Google, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.520 especially Gmail, you might have noticed a little banner at 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.560 the top of your Gmail saying enable Enhanced Safe Browsing. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:54.360 What does that mean? 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.720 Basically, if you turn this on, it's gonna better protect 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:03.120 you against phishing emails, malware, dangerous websites. So the difference 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.000 between turning this on and leaving it. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:05.600 Off is this. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.359 If you leave it off, Google checks the links and 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.560 your emails against a database that's about thirty minutes old. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.720 If you turn it on, Google's going to check against 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.280 a real time database. It does share a little bit 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.520 more data with Google, but I do think that you 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.840 probably should turn it on to help protect yourself just 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.680 a little bit more. All right, Coming up next, Ben 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.919 par AI Expert's going to give us a primer in 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.439 all things AI. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.360 What do you need to know? What's the newest? 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.080 What are these keywords out there so you can sound 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.040 smart when you talk to your friends about AI? Ben 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.640 par coming up next right here on rich on Tech. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.280 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.760 out with you talking technology and AI is one of 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.600 the buzzwords of the tech world right now. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.280 I mean it's more than a buzzword. It is everything. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.200 And the guy who's following all of the announcements is 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.800 Ben Parr, author of the AI Analyst newsletter. He posted 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.840 this great cheat sheet for generative AI. I highly recommend 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.760 you download it from his website. Ben, thanks so much 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:19.879 for joining me today. And Ben's This is actually Ben's 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.360 second time on the show, so it's he's no stranger 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.600 to the show. Do we have Ben Ben Kell? Hello, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.359 here you go, Hello, what's up? Welcome to the show. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.000 Like I said, I thank you for having me on again. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.480 Yes, this is actually your second time, and I've got 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.600 a new feature on the website. By the way, rich 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.080 on tech dot tv slash guests. If you hear a 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.359 guest on the show, you can go there and see 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.000 them and at the not only see all about them 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.879 and all their links and Twitter and Instagram and Facebook 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.720 and their website, but you can scroll down below their 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.760 bio and you can see which episodes they've appeared on. So, Ben, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.600 the last time you were on the show was March eighteenth, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.840 twenty twenty three, and there's been a lot of changes. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:06.040 Let's first start with let let's start with Facebook. So 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.680 Meta basically came out with their second version of their 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.560 AI called Lama two. Can you talk about they're giving 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.880 this away for free? What does that mean exactly? 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:23.280 So the incentives that Meta has for AI are different 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.800 than the other big tech players. So what Metta is 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.920 doing is they're offering their AI open source to developers 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.000 to use, you know, commercially as they wish. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.119 And it's a really good system. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.159 I haven't dug into every piece of it I've started, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.480 but you know it gets close to GPT four, which 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.760 is the technology of the powers chat GPT. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.399 So why does Meta give this away for free? 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:47.280 For them? 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.199 It improves their AI for because they're not their business 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.800 models not selling this AI to other businesses. Their business 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.040 model is making it so that whenever you're using Facebook, Messenger, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.119 or you're using Thread, or you're using any of the 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.080 other things that they work better, that more content is made, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.280 and so more people using Lama means more people more 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.240 training for their model, which means when they add more 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.639 AI to WhatsApp, for example, which they own, it's going 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.919 to be a lot better. And their plan is just 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.280 to put AI into everything that they do, and this 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.800 way for them to improve it is to give it 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:24.640 away for free. 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.199 Now, unlike some of these other ais, this is not 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.959 something that you can easily just go to, like you know, 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.760 Lama dot com and try, right, like all the other 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.399 ones we're hearing about, you can just like go to 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.480 the website and try. Like a consumer version, this is 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.280 more on the B to B side, right, I mean 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.720 anyone can download the I guess the open source of it. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.600 Yeah, it's just basically a big code base. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.320 You download it if you're a developer, and then you 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:48.920 can build something on top of it. So the way 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.640 you would interact with it as a general consumer will 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.720 be probably a bunch of applications that you're using or 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.920 will use will use that technology under it. They might 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.680 use that plus open AI's GPT four again the same 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.520 called the owned chat gyptuh. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.240 But I expect in the next couple of weeks you're 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:07.480 going to. 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.719 Start to see some interesting use cases for it and 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.840 some chat applications and others. 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:16.040 Now, let's talk about the my favorite chat app right now, 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:20.159 my favorite AI assistant. It's called Claude, And this is 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.320 from a startup name Anthropic, which is actually started by 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.719 some folks who used to work at open Ai, makers 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.199 of chat GBT. And I almost don't want to talk 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.000 about Claude because I actually I'm it's like my best 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:31.679 kept secret. 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.480 I love this AI. Have you played with this? I'm 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:35.119 assuming you have. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:36.439 I have. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.360 And so for everyone out there, there's you know, chat 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.879 GIPT is the best known like a what's called an 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.160 AI assistant at the best way to describe. 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:46.640 But they're not the only one. 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.880 Claude is a new one, and Google has one called 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.119 Bart and those two have made big strides and improvements 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.720 in the last couple of months. Claude has won a 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.399 couple big advantages. One of its biggest is that it 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.360 has a bigger context window. What that means is that 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.000 you could post in like half of a novel in 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.560 there and ask it questions and it would give you answers. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.720 It has a much shorter window for chat gpt. Chatchpt 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.200 actually doubled the window this week so you could put 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.760 in more content, Like you know, people are wanting to 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.560 put an entire blog posts, entire email sequences, entire books 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:21.240 and ask questions. 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.960 That's what area where claud is really good. 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.959 And bard Google's one has the all of the ability 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.359 to look at images. You could upload an image and 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.080 it'll give you information on that. This is a feature 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.600 that chat gpt actually should have, but they haven't released 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.399 it publicly yet because of the legal issues around it. 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.080 But what you're seeing now is that everyone is starting 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.600 to catch up because now there's been more time to analyze. 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.040 People have been building on the technology. Anthropics raised billions 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.080 of dollars to do it. 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:51.359 What are you using the most or are you just 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:52.240 using all of these? 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.240 I have actually a recommended list that's on my website 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.400 vnpart dot com of about twenty different apps that recommend 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.840 for different things. Cat GPT and mid journey are so 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.440 for sure my top two, but I am definitely trying 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.680 out claud More, Barred More, and then it just sort 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.480 of depends. So like advice for everyone out there, you know, 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.399 you want to have an AI tool specifically suited to 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:16.560 you know your needs. I kind of think of it 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.720 as like hiring an AI co worker, like do I 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:23.359 need a videographer? Do I need a transcriber? Do I 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.560 need a language assistant? When you have that, it gets 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.640 much easier to pick out an AI tool that can 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.520 help you that's specialized in that area. 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.680 Okay, So let's talk about this cheat sheet for generative 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.639 AI that you put out, which I just love some 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.639 of these terms. So you've got the terms that you 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.960 need to know, key terms, key technologies, key companies, the 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.679 people to know, the key resources, recommended tools and I'm 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.120 guessing some of those are on your website as well. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.080 And then recommended content so people to follow, people to 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.120 follow on TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, the newsletters you should get, 0:23:56.119 --> 0:24:00.000 the podcast to listen to. I mean, AI has really 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:04.600 come up fast, And do we know anything about the future, 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.440 like what this is going to do to everything? Or 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:08.920 are we still kind of figuring that out? 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.359 We are still in the really early innings of this 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.359 AI revolution. I always want to I always tell people 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.600 this technology today is the worst it will ever be 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.320 in human history. And think about six months ago, you 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.439 could not just have a blog post suddenly written up. 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.880 You didn't have the capability to create hundreds of images 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:30.000 in the matter of minutes. 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.480 Now you have those things. Are they perfect? 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:32.560 No? 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.520 Are they really good at what they do? Shockingly yes? 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.720 But the next couple of years, there's thousands of millions 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.399 of developers working on amazing tools. These models are getting better. 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:50.000 But more importantly than that, there are researchers and scientists 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.320 working on new versions of AI. The AI that's hot 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.560 this year is called generative AI. But I've been hearing 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.960 about other forms of AI that other researchers are diving into, 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.840 and there's gonna be some super cool things that will 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.720 come out over the next couple of years. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:09.399 Now that AI has gone deep into the public consciousness. 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.960 So I always ask people when I talk about AI, 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.040 like how much should we be using these like and 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.480 should we feel guilty for Like I'm using them in 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.800 a lot of ways, like summarize things and to kind 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.560 of like research and look things up and kind of 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.439 come up with answers. I mean, should we feel guilty 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.159 about all of this? I mean it feels like I 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.400 have an assistant. 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.080 One should I like to think of it as like 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.120 you shouldn't feel guilty if you feel guilt ay using 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.800 a calculator, that's like a whole like different can of worms, 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:39.320 Like you should not feel guilty. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:39.960 It is like that. 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.000 It is a It's not some sentient being, to be 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.920 very clear, that's years and years away. 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.880 Despite all the hype, this is. 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.000 A really really useful tool that the new generation is 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.280 especially Gen Z and like the upcoming generation, are using 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.439 in everyday life. And if you're not embracing and like 0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.440 learning how to use this in daily then long term 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.399 you're gonna be left behind. And that's just it's just 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.520 a core set of tools that everyone will be using. 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.920 People are using this to help them write emails, to 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.159 do summaries. I use it to brainstorm. I use it 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.600 to come up with answers to lots of questions. I 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.520 use it to rapidly speed up the first version of 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:21.200 my presentations. And if you're not doing those things, you're 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.240 gonna not you're gonna be left behind. And so it's 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.199 not a matter like guilty or not guilty. It's just 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.800 this is where things are going. This technology is already 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.600 becoming mainstream, you know, for your career and your future. 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.760 I would learn these tools, and I would at the 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.359 minimum just get into the habit of talking to something 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.959 like chatchipt every day, even if it's just a brainstorm, 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:42.280 just to build the habit. 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.800 And explain this idea of hallucination because we hear this, 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.960 these things are not perfect. So good example, my dad 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.480 was planning a road trip and he asks chatchybt for 0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.000 you know, I want to drive this many hours a day, 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.720 this many miles, not more than this many miles, and 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.040 it wrote out in itinerary. But it was wrong. I 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.959 mean it got the first leg wrong. It was like 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.600 the it said it was two hundred and fifty miles, 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.680 but it was really like four hundred miles he was driving. 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.600 So explain the idea that these things are not perfect. 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:11.800 And the what a hallucination is. 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.240 So a hallucination is, you know, very simply when an 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:20.959 AI confidently says something that is wrong. And so the 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.600 AI is not like reasoning like oh I'm going to 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:29.480 go and measure the distance between Albuquerque and San Francisco. 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.399 It's just using its database to predict what numbers and 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.560 words most likely should appear in a sequence. It's a 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.840 predictive algorithm. Therefore, it doesn't actually know the distance to anything. 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.560 It's just predicting what most people would say, and if 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.280 it hasn't seen it before, it's going to predict new 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.520 numbers and often sometimes they can be wrong. Now, hallucinations 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:54.040 happen a lot less often, and for your most common questions, 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.680 it's going to generally be right, like most of the time, 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.119 nine out of ten, it's going to be right. But 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.080 always double check the work you know, or especially if 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:04.240 it's a really important thing. 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.639 That hallucinations are just a part of AI. 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.760 It's also honestly like a fascinating phrase that we use 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.720 to describe when an AI. It's just straight up when 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.680 an AI tell you incorrect information. So just always double 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.320 check and AI's work when you ask you a question. 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.000 All right, Ben Parr AI Analyst Newsletter. Definitely sign up 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.560 if you're interested in this and download his cheat sheet 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:33.080 for generative AI. The website benpar P a r r 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.720 dot com also linked up online rich on tech dot 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.520 tv slash guests. Ben, thanks so much for joining me today, 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:42.320 Wild World of AI. 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.200 It was thank you for having me. Hopefully next I 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.240 will be me next time and not an AI talking. 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.560 Let's hope that it doesn't get that far, all right? 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:56.680 Coming up next, prices going up on two streaming services. 0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.360 You might subscribe to one of these or both. 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.600 We'll tell you about that, plus uh more of your 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.440 calls at Triple eight Rich one oh one phone number 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.200 to call eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:13.640 to one zero one. You are listening to rich on Tech. 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.960 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:30.120 out with you, talking technology. You know we are going 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.320 to see Taylor. Oh yeah, we're one of them. So 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.480 our tickets, my I'm laughing. My wife, you know, she 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.080 got the tickets. She was one of the people who 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.400 had to deal with the whole ticket Master system. But 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.479 she did score two tickets and at the regular prices, 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.240 which we're still expensive, but. 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.080 Now I'm not kidding. 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.360 Our seats are going for like three thousand dollars each 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.840 ticket or maybe for two tickets, I don't know. And 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.680 so it's become this conversation of do we go to 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.360 the concert or do we just cash on this concert? 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.240 I think we have to go We've been talking about 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.360 it for a long time. Rich on tech dot tv 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.600 is the website to go to. I've got it fully redesigned, 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.760 much easier to follow the show. 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Reason I'm 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.560 calling is I had an iPhone eleven, just upgraded it 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.320 to a fourteen, but had problems with the iPhone eleven, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.840 which I thought would be ultimately solved by upgrading to 0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:05.240 the iPhone fourteen, and this one intermittent problem is reappearing 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.160 on the fourteen. So what it is is I go 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:15.000 into my email app, the iOS email app, and it 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.680 seems to probably be Yahoo only, but I'm not sure. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.840 When I look at the inbox, I'll see messages there, 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.719 press on a message and it will be absolutely blank 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.480 and it's not just loading. Many times I go into 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.440 the inbox and maybe all messages or blanket, can't even 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:36.000 see anything. So the simple solution, part of the time 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.080 is to kill the app, restarted, go back in. But 0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:44.200 the things I tried on the iPhone eleven were took 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.360 it down the Apple Store and with their guidance, you know, 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:54.160 reset the network settings, uninstalled the email account, you know, 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.640 user name and password and all that, reset it up, 0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.160 did a variety of I think, make sure there no 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.600 VPN on and it's intermittent, so you know, when it 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:08.200 got through the iPhone eleven, graded it to the iPhone fourteen, 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.560 lo and behold that same same thing. Mystery things coming back. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.640 So here's the deal, Jeff, I am getting so many 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.880 questions about Yahoo email problems. I'm ready to tell people 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.000 to scrap Yahoo email. And I've got an email into 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.160 Yahoo to get someone on the show to talk about 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.560 what the changes have been behind the scenes, what's going on. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.840 It just seems like there are so many issues with 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.040 accessing email through this service, and I don't understand why. 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.400 So here's my recommendation to you. Number one, go ahead 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.400 and delete the Yahoo email off of your phone and 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.880 set it up again. Maybe when you brought the settings 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.840 over from your old phone, it just didn't like whatever 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.120 the old settings were, and that's what's causing the problems 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.680 on the news setting. So that's the number one thing 0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.720 I would do now, I personally would not use If 0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.000 you're getting still getting issues, I would delete again and 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.520 I would just download the Yahoo app, the Yahoo Email 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.880 app for iOS, and then I would use that to 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.120 access my email. That's going to give you the best 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.320 case scenario because you're going to get all the features 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.120 that Yahoo builds into their email system. You're going to 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.320 get those available to you. So that means you can 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.160 manage your folders, you can see your account info, you 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.719 can add you know, different accounts to send them receive emails. 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.239 But it's just going to make life a whole lot 0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.560 easier because you're using their dedicated app. I use Gmail, 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.720 and I use the dedicated app. It's not, as you know, 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.960 it's not as pretty as the app that comes with 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.920 the iPhone, the Mail app, but it just it just 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.880 works better because I get all the features and functionality 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.040 built into Gmail. So that's what I would recommend doing. 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.600 If you don't want to use Yahoo's own app, then 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.160 I would use a third party app, maybe check out 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.920 something like Outlook. A lot of people like an app 0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.720 called spark Mail. You can check out that. But I 0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.680 would just ditch the Yahoo on the mail app if 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.720 it continues to give you problems. I know that there's 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.400 a paid portion of the Yahoo email some people have that. 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.520 I mean, it's just it seems like there's a lot 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.560 of issues with this. I'm getting a ton of emails 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.680 about it, and so it just seems like it's just 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.120 not playing very nice for some reason. I don't know why. 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.319 If you go in, I'm gonna check real quick if 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.520 you go into your settings on the iPhone, I'm curious 0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.120 when you go to set up a mail, is Yahoo 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:33.160 one of the automatic accounts? So if I do add account, yeah, 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.080 Yahoo's right there. They do support an automatic login. So 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.600 I would just delete it, sign in and see if 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:45.040 that brings back the uh, the better functionality, Jeff, because 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.440 I'm just hearing too much about this, and as an 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.320 iPhone fourteen, you're living in the modern world. Your email 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.640 should be working just fine. Thanks for the call today. 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.200 Appreciate it. If you want to call in, it's triple 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.040 eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.520 to two four to one zero one. Prices going up 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.360 on two popular well, I guess two streaming services. I 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.799 don't know if they're the most popular out there. But 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:13.000 let's talk Peacock first. This is NBC's streaming service. It's 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.560 going up by a dollar a month, so effective August seventeenth, 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.440 for existing customers, it's happening right now. For new customers, 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.400 Premium plan going up from five bucks a month to 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.680 six bucks a month, and if you have the Premium 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.359 Plus plan that's going from ten to twelve dollars a month. 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.440 The annual price is also going up from fifty to 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.920 sixty a year, or ninety nine one hundred a year 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.359 to one hundred and twenty. So basically Peacock's going up. 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.840 A lot of people are on a very inexpensive Peacock 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:43.440 plan for the year. They're gonna have to figure out 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.560 if they want to continue. Then Google raising the price 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.719 of YouTube Premium. Yes, some people, including myself, do pay 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.600 for YouTube premium to get rid of the ads. That's 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.080 increasing by two dollars a month, so used to be twelve. 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.919 Now it's fourteen. If you are subscribing from the iOS app, 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.160 which I highly recommend you do not do, you're gonna 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.480 pay nineteen dollars a month. One thing to know, if 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.719 you're subscribing to any service through the iOS app, it 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.440 may be cheaper to go to that service's website and 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:13.480 subscribe through there. 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:15.280 My name is rich Dumiro. 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.239 You are listening to rich on Tech. More of a 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:26.520 show coming up right after this. Welcome back to rich 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.240 on Tech. This is the show where we talk about 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.680 the tech stuff I think you should know about. It's 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.319 also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.719 My name is Rich Dmiro. Welcome to the show. Phone 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.839 lines are open at triple eight Rich one oh one. 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.680 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.080 one zero one. Still to come on this week's show, 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.160 We've got Kyle Young, VP of Nothing. He's going to 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.480 join to talk about one of my favorite Android phones 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.600 of the year, the Nothing Phone. Two later, we've got 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.960 travel expert Johnny Jet He's gonna explain the high tech 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.120 travel scam you need to be aware of. Plus I've 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.520 got more stories including Hyundai and Kia models that need 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.399 a software fixed. I'll tell you about that. But let's 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.800 head to the phones. Let's go to Aaron in Texas. Aaron, 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:17.560 you're on with Rich? 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:23.080 I yes, recently, I'll pop up him on my computer 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.439 with you know, a virus took over the computer and 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.000 I said, call this number, which was a Microsoft number. 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.480 So I called him and I gave them access to 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.120 my computer. Oh no, yeah, it was a scam. 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.040 You didn't pay him anything, did you? 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:39.200 No? 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:39.560 I did. 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:40.560 Okay, that's good. 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:42.120 Yeah. 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.040 So I turned it off and I contact my bank 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.800 and I changed all my accounts. 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:46.920 And stuff like that. 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:53.160 Uh, pose all my credit clause and I turned back 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.480 on my computer. It's been awful about two weeks. 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.160 Can you turn your computer back on? Is that what 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:01.680 you're asking? 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:03.000 Yeah? 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.000 Well okay, so what tell me? 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.799 Explain to me how this happened. You called, so you 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.279 got to pop up. You called the phone number. This 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.400 is very common, by the way, So don't you know 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.040 and believe me. I know, I know you're probably feeling 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.600 like you really got taken here, and I get it, 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.600 and I totally understand. But these scam artists really, really 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.520 they prey upon people's good nature, which is oh, there's 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.839 a problem. Call this number here, We're here to help. 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:33.000 So when did you realize that this was a scam? 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:37.520 After I contacted my bank and the person that came on, 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:43.839 he didn't He sounded like a male imitating a female. 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.920 And I asked to talk to a supervisor and he 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.360 would not. I sent me over. You know, he's saying 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.960 that he was a supervisor and this is legit. And 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:57.920 I'm looking at my computer screen and it did bring 0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.520 up the information on my account. 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.680 So they actually logged into your account. 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:04.840 They actually logged into my account. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:05.280 Oh wow? 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.360 And so okay, So what were they trying to do 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.000 trying to transfer money from your account to their account? 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:11.480 I'm guessing. 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.759 Well, I was going to order a software and they 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.840 they said they put six thousand dollars more into my account. 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.920 I had an extras zero and so they wanted me to, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.120 you know, the reverse the fund back to them. 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.760 Oh wow, oh man. 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.759 Yeah, so you know. So, and what they did was 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.040 they called my bank. I didn't since they called them. 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:40.799 They called them over over their phone, and so I'm 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:41.799 thinking of talking to my. 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.640 Bank, but I wasn't, oh man. 0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.759 But but I got and I was on the line 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.439 for about an hour but you know, and they kept 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.879 trying to get me to you know, transfer the front 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.160 and I said, no, I'm not going to transfer the 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.239 fund because they did it twice, you know, you know, 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.200 the second time I got the same person, and I 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.319 really got suspister because I knew it was a male 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.080 imitating a seine though a high pid void, and so 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.000 he wouldn't, you know, answer me over to the supervisor. 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.880 So I just hung up, and then I physically called 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.600 my bank on my phone and they told me it 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:20.480 was a scam. 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.840 Because they were like, because you were explaining the situation, 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.160 and they were then they their red flags went up, saying, well, 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.319 hold on, hold on, this is we hear this all 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.640 the time, yep. And so where did you leave it? 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.080 You had this, They installed this software on your computer. 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.480 They made you go to a website, download software, then 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.120 connect to some sort of IP address. I'm guessing right, 0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.920 that's correct, okay, And then you did all that stuff. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.480 You got connected with the bank. They said they were 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.640 gonna you know, they put in extra money by accident. 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.640 They wanted you to refund it. That's where the scam 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.799 comes in, where they you know, they say they put 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.520 in they were supposed to take out this, they put 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.120 in more or whatever. When you turned off your computer, 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.840 how did you how was the software or was the 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:02.759 software disconnected at that point? 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:03.600 Oh? 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.000 Yes, it was okay because they want to. It was 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.760 like a link, you know, take over mycomputer dot com. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:16.400 And the person who I was talking to he sounded foreign. 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.640 He sounded on a you know, you know, like you 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:24.360 put Pakistan or Angia, which is okay because that people 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:25.400 have taken on my computer. 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.080 Well right, and then and this is where this is 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.959 where the good nature comes in, where they pray. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.239 It's social engineering. 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.480 So if you if you work at at a company, 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.120 you may call your IT T support and they and 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.719 you may have a problem. You know, I need to 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.840 set up the printer, I need to do whatever, and 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.839 they go, oh, can we take over your computer. We're 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.279 gonna we're gonna take over your computer and help you out. 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.080 And you say okay. And so it doesn't seem out 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.960 of sorts for someone to say, okay, let me help you, 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.480 let me take over your computer. You know, this is 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.680 customer support that you called. I mean, major companies do 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.200 this even as far as a couple of years ago. 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.759 I remember the pixel phone had a feature where they 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.279 could take over your phone screen and they may still 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.120 be able to do that. I'm not sure, but you 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.239 know it was. It's a feature that's built in that 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.759 that allows tech support people to help you out. And 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.520 so Aaron, I get it. I get why this happened. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.560 But now you're in this place. Did you did you 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.600 suffer any losses with the financials? 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.440 Did it? Did they end up taking any money or no? 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:23.839 No, they did. 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.719 And have they gotten a hold of you in any 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:26.680 other way since then? 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:27.840 No? 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.680 They called me on my personal phone, but I blocked 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:31.120 that number. 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:31.720 Okay. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.600 So and how much personal information did you give? Did 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.560 you give them any account numbers or anything like that? 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.240 I gave my account number to my bank and account okay, 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.479 so hit my social security number? 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.120 And did you did you freeze your credit and all that? 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.160 Yes? 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:46.480 I did? 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:47.080 Okay, good? 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.399 And then you also, did you you changed your bank 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.719 account number? I'm guessing yes. Okay, good, So you've got 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:53.839 everything kind of cleaned up. 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:54.400 The numbers. 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.000 The soci security number, of course, is always concerning because 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.200 it's it's once, it's out there, it's out there. So 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.680 with respect to your computer, so what you need to 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:04.120 do is uninstall this program. 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:04.680 I don't. 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.320 I don't think if you turn on your computer it 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:12.160 would automatically connect to this remote desktop application. Like I 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.719 think that you would have to initiate that connection. But 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.040 I'm also not sure how they left it. So what 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.840 I would do is unplug your computer from the Internet. 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.319 Do you have a physical plug or is. 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:21.839 It Wi Fi? 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:23.359 Your Wi Fi? 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:23.760 Okay? 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.400 So if it's Wi Fi, I would turn on your computer. 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.319 As soon as you turn it on, turn off the 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:30.560 Wi Fi. And do you know how to do that 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.799 as a Windows or Mac Yes, I don't, okay, So 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.719 you turn off your Wi Fi and then once you 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.839 turn off your WiFi, obviously they can't be connected that way. 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:43.560 I would go into your your application list and uninstall 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.080 this remote application. So if you're on Windows, you can 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.560 search on the bar, you know, ad or remove programs. 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.960 It should bring you into the settings and then the apps, 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.400 and there should be apps. You'll see installed apps and 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.960 go through the list and type in the name of 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.040 the app if you can remember it. If you can't, 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.359 just kind of search through all the apps and see 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.879 the ones that you don't recognize and just write click 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:08.800 to uninstall that app and get rid of it and 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.520 then I would restart your computer, make sure it's not there, 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.920 and then you should be able to go now. Also, 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.279 I would check in your task bar in the lower 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.480 right hand corner, just to make sure that there's nothing 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.480 in there that says remote or access or anything like that. 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:24.600 So do you remember the name of the program that 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:25.280 they installed? 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.120 Uh? Not really? 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.200 Okay, so it may help to it may still be 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.359 in your downloads folder, so you can look in there 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.640 to see if there's like a name in there, but 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.359 obviously delete that as well. But just that's what i'd 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.359 recommend to get your computer back up and running. If 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.880 you really want to be safe, you may want to 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.239 just factory reset your computer. I don't know what your 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.360 backup situation is like, but that could that could be 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.520 an option as well. But I think that you'll probably 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.799 be okay if you just uninstall this program through the 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:56.600 through the panel. 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:57.319 Does that help? 0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:58.439 Yes? 0:44:58.480 --> 0:44:58.880 It does? 0:44:59.040 --> 0:44:59.600 All right, Aeron. 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.359 I'm sorry went through this, man, and it's a good 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.640 I'm sorry you went through it, but I think it's 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.440 a good learning lesson for other folks listening, because it 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:12.720 is something that happens every single day, and it doesn't 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.640 matter if you're smart if you're savvy, if you're with it, 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.280 if you're old, if you're young, It does not matter. 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.759 This happens to everyone. It's a numbers game. And what 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.440 they're doing is they're just trying a lot of things. 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.759 They're putting a lot of those messages on a lot 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:32.280 of computers, and they're just hoping that someone takes the bait. 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.200 And when they do, they really go for it. And 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.440 you see what happened to Aaron. Aaron sounds like a 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.040 smart guy. You know, he had to go through a 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.799 lot and it was one of these things where he 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:48.279 just wanted to get his computer fixed. And you know 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.240 the thing about social engineering is that it always prays 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:57.040 upon number one, are good nature. Number two, there's always 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.319 an element of time, Hey, we got to get this done, 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.600 we got to get this finished. And then there's always 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.680 an element of engineering. And this social engineering is the 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.560 fact that they do things modeled after what we actually do. 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.080 And so when you get a text from your bank 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.839 that says, hey, did you just try your credit card 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:13.400 at Target? 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.440 We declined that because we didn't know if it was 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:15.840 you or not. 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.120 Press one. If it's you, reply one. If it's you, 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.560 reply two. If it's not banks actually send those texts out. 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.200 I've gotten them, And so what do the scam artists do. 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:29.560 They send similar texts because we've been trained for security 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.279 to respond to those texts, and so what do they do. 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.200 They send the same exact texts, so that we are 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.120 already trained in our good nature to respond to those 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.480 and say, oh, that wasn't me. And next thing you know, 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.320 they call you. And that's the part of the scam 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.799 where it kicks in. So now they call you and say, hey, 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.680 this is a Chase bank. We're just following up on 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.040 this and let's get everything figured out. Can you give 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.719 me your account number again? And you say, oh, yeah, 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.680 hold on, let me get my card. And next thing 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.480 you know, before you even think about it, they've got 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.880 your information. They got aaron social security number if they 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.600 got access to his computer. And if you sitting there 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.440 thinking it can't happen to you, oh it can. It 0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:09.400 absolutely can. So be aware, be on the lookout, and 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:14.320 be critical of every single email, every link, every text message. 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:18.600 Believe me, I specialize in this stuff for a living. 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.000 And I sit there and people forward me their emails 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:24.040 and I'm looking at it and I'm going hmm. Let 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.480 me see that email address. Okay, it could be yeah, okay, 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.920 let me look at that text. HM. That's interesting and 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.880 there's a little gives. Sometimes you get an email and 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.120 it's really easy to tell, but. 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:33.840 Other times it's not. 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.879 So just be aware of this stuff, all right, coming 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.239 up more of your calls at triple eight rich one 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.839 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.799 four to one zero one. We're going to talk about 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:48.120 the nothing phone, and I'm going to tell you about 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.920 if you have a Handai or a Kia, what you 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.279 need to know about getting your car fixed so that 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.560 nobody steals it. You are listening to rich on Tech. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.520 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Triple eight rich one 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:06.880 oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.160 one zero one. If you have a question about technology, 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.440 give me a call, just to kind of a footnote 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:20.719 on the last caller. Great website called scamspotter dot org. 0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:26.600 Scam spotter dot org. This is a great website to 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:31.839 learn about the scams that are out there and how 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:36.320 they work and how to protect yourself. So of course 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.799 that'll be in the show notes as well. So if 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.920 you have a Hyundai or a Kia, five million of 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:47.960 them still need anti theft repairs. Carfax teaming up with 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.520 these companies to kind of get people in to figure 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.680 out if they need this or not. So Hondai and 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.680 Ki are giving customers free steering wheel locks or a 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.760 free software update, and about four point nine million cars 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:07.719 across the US still need this, so they're highlighting the 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.400 issue on their website and also the vehicle history report, 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.720 so if you're shopping for a used Hyundai or Kia, 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.160 you can see if the car you're buying or want 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:21.000 to buy has already had the software work done. So 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.760 this will be on the car FACS used car listing, 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:27.640 So how do you know if this is your car? 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:31.920 Affected cars twenty ten through twenty twenty two, and they 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.920 have keyed ignition, so if you have a push button ignition, 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:38.040 this doesn't apply to you. Basically, they don't have an 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:42.239 immobilizer to prevent theft, and people figured this out. They 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.680 made TikTok videos about it, and people started stealing these cars. 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.520 So what the software repair does is it extends the 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.160 length of the alarm from thirty seconds to a minute, 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.560 and it requires the key to being the ignition to 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.719 actually turn the car on so people figured out that 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.279 I guess he didn't need the key to turn on 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.360 the car, and they were able to steal these cars 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:08.200 pretty easily. The fifteen there's a bunch of states of the. 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.200 Most of these cars on the road. 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.759 California's number one with five hundred thousand, Florida number two, 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.840 over five hundred thousand, Texas number three, and the Hyundai 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:24.520 vehicles affected. Sonata, Tucson, A, Lantra, Genesis, Santa Fe, Accent, Kona, 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:29.320 the venue the Palisade La car soul for the Kias, 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:34.000 it's the soul of the Optima Forte Rio, Sedona, Sorrento Sportage. 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.080 That's just a partial list, but if you want more information, 0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:38.840 Carfax has it on their website. 0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:40.440 I'll put this, of course in the show notes. 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:44.080 But if you have a Hyundai or Kia twenty ten 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.480 to twenty twenty two with a key ignition, you probably 0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:48.720 need to bring it in for a software update. It's free, 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.640 so figure out if you need that. Let's go to 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.040 let's see, let's go to Mike in Irvine, California. Mike, 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:56.799 you're on with Rich. 0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.239 Yeah, so how are you doing, Rich? 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:00.360 I'm doing fantastic. 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:02.440 How are you I'm doing very well. 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.880 So I have a little problem in my note ken. 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.279 It has a thing I had on that I can't 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.400 get rid of. And since I have so much stuff 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.600 on my phone, I have all kinds of PDF files 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:16.279 and you know, uh stuff I can't it's really hard, 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:21.960 difficult to get again. So the day has been going 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:26.279 for for about a half a year, and I've tried 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.560 the heart. I tried to reset the phone, but I 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:32.080 haven't reset with you raised everything. I got rid of 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.880 all my apps, and it still presents itself. And here's 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.960 what it is. It's a it's a it's a red 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:44.319 and white spokes wheel that comes up. It's spinning, and 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:48.160 about five seconds after it starts, it takes you that well, 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.920 it locks you on that page. So you have to 0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.839 shut the phone off. You have to resetart the phone 0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.080 to get it back to regular again. 0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:58.080 If you just. 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:01.759 If it just go out on the page, you go 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.560 back and you can you can get a stop for 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:08.600 a couple of minutes. But have you seen that thing before? 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.839 Oh, I've yeah, I mean, it's uh, I'm not this 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.560 particular one, but I'm pretty aware of these, uh these malware. 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.000 It's probably is it is it generated from Chrome to 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:20.759 you know, or is it coming from somewhere else. 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.719 I'm I'm not using Chrome, using Duck dot go. 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:25.759 I'm using Duck dot go and it still comes up. 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:27.759 Oh yeah, sure it does. 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:28.680 Ran. 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.680 Now now we're now we're bites on a bunch. 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.239 Of times and it can't get rid of them. 0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:34.840 No, it doesn't go away. 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:36.560 Well okay. 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.080 Uh, and you can't use your phone because it just 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:39.960 it takes it over. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:40.840 No. 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.120 Well no, I've found a way of a way around it. 0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.279 But it makes it more, It makes it difficult. If 0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:49.640 I let it go to the AD, then I had 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:51.200 to shut the phone down and start it again. 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.600 Yeah, because it's just gonna hang on that AD forever. 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:55.080 All right. So a couple of things. 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:59.040 Number one, I think that uh, you know, the idea 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.120 that your phone, you know, if you have something like 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.399 this happen, a backup is really important. You say, you've 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.640 got PDFs and things. I would take the time to 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.960 offload those to something like Google Drive, get those in 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.719 a safe place, and you've got a factory reform at 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:15.279 this phone. Unless it's at the ROM level of this phone, 0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.319 which I don't think it is, you know, that would 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.400 be that would take some really getting in there. So 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.120 I think this is on the software level. If you 0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:24.960 format this phone, I know you said you did that, 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.560 but I think you have to do it again and 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.960 that's going to get rid of this for sure. Also, 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:31.479 the other thing you can do is try to boot 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:34.759 up your phone in safe mode, and so you can, 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.480 according to this is just one way power and volume 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:42.319 buttons down until the power off prompt and then you 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:43.520 can go into safe mode. 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:44.719 So figure out how to do that. 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:46.640 And then go into your list of apps and get 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.520 rid of apps that you don't know restart your phone. 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.200 But Mike, you definitely got to get rid of this stuff, 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:54.680 and those are the probably the ways to do it. 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:56.319 You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.000 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hang 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.200 out with you talking technology. I've got a great guest 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.280 to talk about a new phone. Kyle Jung is VP 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:12.319 of Nothing. Nothing is actually a phone company and they 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.440 are introducing their Nothing to phone. 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:15.920 Kyle, thanks so much for joining me. 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:16.799 Oh thanks for having me. 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.920 All right, so first off, let's talk about this name Nothing. 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.959 So it's kind of a fun play on words. Why 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:24.440 is the company called nothing? 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:26.880 I mean, I think the original thing behind it is 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.320 we're trying. Nothing is trying to remove barriers between you 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.120 and your tech, and so what's witch in being being 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:33.879 matine in your tech? 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:34.200 Nothing? 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:38.960 So you had the Nothing phone, the original that was 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:41.840 not necessarily on sale in the US in a big way. 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:46.040 But this Nothing phone two is so tell me about 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:46.839 the Nothing too. 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.520 Yeah, So Nothing Too is Nothing's first introduction, and I'd 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.960 say it kind of like the premium flagship department. It's 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.760 building out what the company's done over its first three years, 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.959 and so it also represents of Nothing's I think beyond 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:06.600 entry into the premium flagship department. Also showcasing differentiation on 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.759 not just hardware, which has been successful over the first 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:10.560 two years, and why people have been choosing Nothing products, 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.640 but also showing differentiation on software and combining those into 0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:15.960 one overall integrated user experience. 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.560 So a lot of the folks at Nothing at this 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.719 point came from a company called one Plus, which I 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:25.560 really enjoyed their phones. I feel like Nothing has really 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:28.359 taken what one plus started and ran with it. So 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.320 you get this phone that I've been using for the 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:34.120 past couple of weeks, and it's a really nice Android experience. 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:35.719 So tell me what went into this? 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.279 Uh yeah, I mean I think a couple different areas, 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.600 and I think the top line thinking is we think 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:45.319 about is purposeful, intentional smartphone usage. And so one thing 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.480 that people have noticed is we have a glyph interface 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.000 on the back which is intended to allow you to 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.160 put down your phone but get important pieces of information 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.680 and still like you to get information without having to 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.520 necessarily look at your phone all the time. And that's 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.719 something that on Phone two, we've interested a couple of 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:01.319 new features which you think are legitimately useful and help 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.440 you interact differently with your phone. One of them is 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.520 we've adapted third part notifications to allow you to basically, 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.560 let's say you're calling an uber, there's a time on 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:12.080 the back of your device that allows you have your 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.080 phone down and it tracks the progress of your uber 0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.480 coming to you without having to necessarily look at your phone. 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:19.640 A couple of examples, we have something called essential notifications, 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.640 where one of the glyph lights will notify you if somebody, 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.960 a specific person in a specific app is trying to contact, 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:28.799 So that way there's that one or two three people 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:30.440 you really want to hear from on a Daytay basis 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:31.560 but you don't want to be looking at your phone 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.600 all the time, and so that's allowing you to put 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.040 your phone down but will still being able to get 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:36.840 important information. 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:37.839 Yeah. 0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:39.880 So if you look at the back of this device, 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.759 it is clear glass, and there's a whole bunch of 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.800 like you said, glyphs, they're basically led lights on the back. 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:49.880 And so if you had like a BlackBerry back in 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:51.960 the day, there's that one light that just kind of 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.719 turned on when you got a notification. This allows you 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.680 to customize that experience in many more ways. And so 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:00.759 this glyph light, like I have one set up. If 0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.120 my wife texts me, I will see that on the back. 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.480 But the interesting thing is to use that feature, you 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:07.880 have to turn your phone upside down so the screen 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:08.439 is down. 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:09.640 Is that intentional? 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:11.600 Yeah, it is in the sense that I think we're 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.879 we hear from people. And there's a couple things we'll 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:16.600 talk about probably in a second on software where I 0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.000 think people want to not be as trapped to their 0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:20.840 devices and not to the to their devices, and I 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:22.640 think we're conscious of that and I think that's where 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.560 we think technology should go. 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.240 And so another feature along those lines is you can 0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.920 make your entire interface pretty much black and white or 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:36.400 gray tone, and so you've got these monochromatic icons for 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:37.960 everything in your phone. 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:40.320 What's been the research on that. 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.040 A couple different things. I mean, I don't think it's 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:43.600 I don't think it's hard to explain now that I 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.480 think people are not totally satisfied with maybe the role 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.000 that social media's played, the role that apps are necessarily 0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:50.760 playing in terms of how much people spend time spent 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:52.880 under the device. I think it's pretty common for somebody 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.120 to open their device, click into social media, and just 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.160 get kind of lost for ten minutes, and then they 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:58.680 realize what was I doing? You know, what did I 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.760 even come on my phone for? For this monochrome feature, 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.040 we've basically taken an approach where if you reduce the 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.320 colors and you know, all the things that you're used 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.240 to seeing in apps, it makes you much more intentional 0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:10.040 in terms of what you're doing. And since I've been 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:11.640 using it for the last month, it's it's changed my 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:14.520 behavior in terms of how I interact with with apps, 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.240 because I think, to be honest with a lot of 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.840 smartphone companies are marketing for app companies, but I don't 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.640 think that's what users actually want. In addition to that, 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.440 we've also allowed you to do some I think smart customization. 0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:27.560 You increase the size of an app to necessarily something 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:29.520 you're using on a regular basis, to be able to 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.840 get into it quicker. And also we've created also some 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.360 widgets that we think are useful and functional. And you know, 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:36.560 one example is like the weather widget. You can click 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.080 on it if it's on your home screen. You don't 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.120 have to go into an app. You can quickly get 0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:43.959 you know, the five day forecast, the hourly temperature, and 0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:45.960 you're kind of in and out. And so I think 0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:48.200 that's how we've kind of thought about technology in terms 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:49.160 of being intentional. 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:53.000 Let's talk about this an Android phone, it's running Android software. 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:56.240 Does nothing have their own brand of software. 0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.280 We referred to as nothing os, and this will be 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.040 introducing nothing Less two point zero. And I think we're 0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.080 taking a different approach on software where a lot of 0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.360 the feedback we've heard is that, to be honest, androids 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.080 a little bit kind of there's a lot of customization, 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:10.200 he gets a little bit messy. It's not the design. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:11.960 I think a lot of people have told us there's 0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:13.760 a lot of room for improvement, and I think on 0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:15.480 iOS at the same time, a lot of people tell 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:17.120 us it's just kind of like a se of kind 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.680 of apps, and so I think we've given thought to 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:21.240 what that will look like. And I think with our 0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:24.480 introduction of Analysts of Nothing OS two point zero, we've 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.560 gotten a lot of positive feedback and I think people 0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.000 were seeing where we're trying to go with this because 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:29.240 we think there actually is a better way. 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:31.680 So some of the things that you can do differently. 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.280 You can put these little widgets on your lock screen 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:37.640 which give you one tap. I have mindset up for scanning, 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:41.000 a QR code, the calculator, a focus mode, and then 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.240 the final one is a timer, and then when you 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.640 get into your phone, it's very clean. 0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:47.600 It almost reminds me. 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:51.160 Of pixel esque software. So it's kind of like stock Android, 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:54.320 which people like. And the other thing that people want 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.919 to know about, of course, is the camera. So I've 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.080 been quite impressed with the pictures that I've taken on this, 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.120 which is no easy feet because I test a lot 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.880 of different phones. The cameras are sort of basic. You 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.800 get your your wide angle and then your ultra wide, 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:12.080 so no real big optical hunter time zoom on this phone. 1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.880 But the camera works and it's it's a pretty nice 1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:15.760 camera experience. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:17.000 Tell me about building that. 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.080 Yeah, I think this was our kind of thought on 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:20.560 camera and it kind of ties to some of the 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:23.200 things we thought about on software, where we focus probably 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:26.440 more on software because you can focus on hardware and software. 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.120 And on the hardware side, I will acknowledge you know, 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:32.320 we've we've made a big improvement of the lens on 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:35.160 the front and improve lens on the main camera. But 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.560 because we focus more on software or philosophies, basically we 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:41.400 should be doing more there because if you're going to 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:43.080 add a lot of hardware to it, the phone design 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:44.800 is going to get bigger, it's going to get bulky, 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:47.160 and it changed the design of the device, and so 1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:51.080 we focus on two use occasions in addition, in addition 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:53.760 to it being able to provide a flagship smartphone experience 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:56.200 getting all the shots you want. Our general thinking is 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:59.280 if you have a smartphone that's pretty good in regular light, 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:01.920 in normal setting, anybody can get a good photo. But 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.439 we're trying to calibrate for a couple use cases edge 1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:08.360 cases that where people people struggle dynamic range. So one 1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:10.480 with advanced HDR we put into this. It allows you 1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:14.080 to take better photographs where lighting is different. There's a 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:17.400 light and dark contrast, and with advanced HDR we're basically 1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:20.880 merging eight images down to allow you to get a 1:01:20.920 --> 1:01:23.640 better photograph, taking eight images in raw domain and putting 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:27.840 those together. In addition, we're also calibrating for quick motion, 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:30.360 so something we call motion Capture two point zero. It's 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:32.880 going to allow you to take maybe sports photography your 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.360 pets move around quickly and gate images that come out 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:37.400 well though, so we're kind of optimizing for the use 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:38.600 cases that people struggle with. 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.560 One of the tricks that you can utilize with the 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.080 glyph interface on the back, it almost acts as a 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:47.440 ring light, so instead of just using a flash, it 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:50.360 really illuminates the entire back of the phone, so for 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:51.560 nighttime photography. 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:53.360 Yeah, and we've also put a setting there too that 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:56.080 people have asked us to kind of toggle the brightness 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:57.160 on the glyph as well. 1:01:57.360 --> 1:02:00.200 Pricing on this device and where's a go to be 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:01.240 available here in the US. 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.720 You can buy it from nothing dot tech in starting 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:05.120 at five ninety nine US. 1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:08.120 How do you get around that entire world of the 1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:10.360 iPhone in the US not so much. 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:12.280 You travel a lot, so you've seen in the other 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:15.760 parts of the world iPhone is not It's prevalent, but 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:17.640 it's not this thing that you have to have because 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:19.919 people use other messaging apps. But here in the US, 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:22.960 it's all about imassage and having the iPhone. So how 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:25.640 do you market to people and say, hey, you don't 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:27.160 necessarily have to have that and you. 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:28.720 Can still have a great smartphone experience. 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:29.040 Yeah. 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:30.560 I mean, one thing we've seen is actually a lot 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:32.320 of our partners have told us that are switching rate 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:35.240 from iOS to US is way higher than any of 1:02:35.320 --> 1:02:37.640 the other injury companies. I think we have a much 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:39.800 higher percentage of gen Z users, and I think people 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:43.440 are attracted to as base earn approach on you know better. 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:45.480 We think a user experience a better design. 1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:46.320 And so I think that's. 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:48.400 Where we're starting, and you know, I think we'll we'll 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:49.000 take it from there. 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:51.720 And my final question is how do I use a 1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:54.320 case with this device? Because the back is something that 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:56.240 you want it it's almost a useful it is a 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:56.960 useful back. 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.640 Yeah, so visitor, Well, we'll have accessories on site. And 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.040 also I think people can take comfort that We've done 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:06.080 decent durability testing Google Glass five so you can feel 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:08.120 comfortable using on a data basis. 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:10.800 Okay, and launching in the US for the first time. 1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:11.840 Are you excited about this? 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:12.280 Very? 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.560 I mean, I think you know, I think you know. 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:17.400 For people that are new to Nothing, check out the reviews, 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:19.400 and I think that's our best proof point. 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:21.280 Kyle Jong, thanks so much for joining me. 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.920 Thanks for having me VP of Nothing A Lot in 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:24.280 a little. 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:26.120 My name is rich Demiro. 1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:28.600 Your questions coming up next? Give me a call at 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:32.040 triple eight rich one O one. 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If you 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:08.520 listen to the show, you know why that's becoming an 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:09.120 inside joke. 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:09.480 All right. 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:12.080 Tom is in Woodland, Hills. Tom, you're on with Rich. 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:12.840 Welcome to the show. 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:13.840 Hey Rich, how are you doing? 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:15.480 I'm doing great? How are you? 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:22.200 I'm doing? Okay. Here's nice situation. I have had a 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:27.200 Gmail account still do. I ditched Yahoo in two thousand 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:31.960 and seven, and so over the years, I've been. 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:35.360 On a number of. 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:37.920 High volume email lists. So I get a lot of email. 1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:45.160 And when I look at the mail app on my iPhone, 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:51.680 it says that I have upwards of ninety nine thousand 1:04:51.800 --> 1:04:53.760 email messages unlist messages. 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:55.800 That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. 1:04:56.640 --> 1:04:57.680 Yeah. 1:04:57.840 --> 1:05:00.360 Is that saying on your on your little like the 1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:02.040 little icon says that many? 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:03.160 Yeah. 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:05.480 Oh that would drive me nuts. 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:05.880 It does. 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:08.600 A buddy of mine looked at my phone the other days, 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:11.720 but you don't. You don't ever read your email first. 1:05:12.960 --> 1:05:19.000 But anyway, so my question is, is. 1:05:16.600 --> 1:05:20.520 There a way I can log into Gmail on the web? 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:24.880 I was reading up on this and I thought it 1:05:24.960 --> 1:05:28.040 said something about you can go into the search box 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:33.880 and type in before colon whatever your arbitrary cutoff date is, 1:05:35.000 --> 1:05:38.240 do a search on that and it will show you 1:05:38.280 --> 1:05:43.520 everything you know before that cutoff date. Let's say January 1:05:43.600 --> 1:05:45.720 first of this year. Yep, and. 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:52.640 So I I did that, and I clipped on the 1:05:53.360 --> 1:06:00.320 what and then all button and it only shows me. 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:06.280 Fifty messages of fifty conversations at a time, right, okay, 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:12.080 what I you know? And I'm thinking, well, why only fifty? 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:16.480 Uh so? And if I if I want to delete 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:18.640 a badge of fifty at the time, I'm going to 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:21.200 have to do that, you know, close to two thousand 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:23.280 times to. 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:23.840 Get rid of all this stuff. 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:30.080 Yep, So is there kind of you're you're breaking up Tom, 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:32.240 But I've got I've got the question and I've got 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:35.440 the answer. So yeah, you can clean this out and 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:37.160 you can use the search bar. I was going to 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:39.840 recommend that you go to Gmail on the web, so 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:42.800 you can go to mail dot Google dot com and 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:44.960 at the top of and this is why I love 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:48.840 Gmail is that you know, it is highly searchable, and 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:51.360 Google is applying a whole bunch of different things to 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:53.960 help you find your emails fast, even in a ce 1:06:54.040 --> 1:06:56.760 of ninety nine thousand emails. But if you want to 1:06:56.760 --> 1:06:59.600 get rid of those emails, there's also a lot of 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:03.040 functions of that search bar that works for more than 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:06.800 just typing in a keyword. So if you go to 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:10.600 that search bar, and you look at the on the right, 1:07:10.640 --> 1:07:13.800 there's like some kind of like a little you know, 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:16.520 like a setting icon. You can click that for the 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:20.200 advanced search, and there you can get in and really 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.800 figure out what you want to do. So the date 1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:25.880 there is a date search inside there which you can 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:27.840 kind of start to use. But I think what you 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:30.720 were talking about is really what you want to do. 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:34.080 And so one of the things that I typically do 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:38.640 is look for attachments that are larger than a certain size. 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:41.440 So let's say ten megabytes, and so I can go 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:43.360 through and just get rid of all those emails because 1:07:43.360 --> 1:07:46.520 they're just taking up unnecessary space. But the search that 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:51.480 you want to do is basically type in before colon 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:55.600 the year, and I can do this right now before 1:07:55.680 --> 1:08:01.040 twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two rather one two. So 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:02.960 if you want to get all the emails, you know 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.840 before that date, and you click that search that in 1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:08.800 and it will give you a list, And like you said, 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:11.240 it's only going to give you depending on how you 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.720 have your Gmail set up. You have fifty messages at 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:16.040 a time, I have one hundred displayed on my screen. 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:18.360 You can change that in the settings. But when you 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:21.800 click the box on the upper column. There's like a 1:08:21.800 --> 1:08:26.559 little check mark box above the messages, and you click 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:30.559 that and it will highlight all the messages on that page. Now, 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:32.920 like you said, that's only fifty messages at a time. 1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:34.519 This will take you a long time to go through 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:38.799 ninety nine thousand. But if you notice, Google's pretty smart. 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:42.480 It says, all one hundred conversations on this page are selected. 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:48.679 Select all conversations that match this search. You click that, 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:53.040 and now you are selecting a whole bunch of messages 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:55.720 theoretically all ninety nine thousand. I don't know if that's 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:58.960 going to be true of the moment you do this. Now, 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.120 I'm not going to do this right now. But then 1:09:01.160 --> 1:09:03.599 you click the trash can up at the top where 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:06.839 it says delete, and it's going to take a while, Tom, 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:09.640 Believe me, this is not going to happen instantly. So 1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:12.720 if you want to practice with this, the way you 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:14.920 can practice, if you're listening and you want to delete 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:17.080 a whole bunch of stuff at once, go into your 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:21.439 spam on Gmail. Click the select box at the top 1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:24.320 of the list of spam, and it says all one 1:09:24.360 --> 1:09:27.200 hundred conversations on this page are selected, or however many 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:29.519 you have, and then it says select all, and I 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:33.320 happen to have three hundred and sixty one spam conversations, 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:37.680 so I click there and now it says delete forever. 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:39.760 And it's a little different than the trash can on 1:09:39.800 --> 1:09:42.040 the other page. But that can give you some practice 1:09:42.040 --> 1:09:44.360 as to how long it takes to delete this. It 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:46.439 will take a little bit of time to delete, but 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:49.320 that's the way to do it. Yes, I would recommend 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:52.599 cleaning out Gmail every once in a while because your 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:56.960 Gmail does count against your Google storage. You get five 1:09:57.040 --> 1:09:59.880 gigabytes or sorry you get I think you get f 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:07.320 fifteen storage. Gigabytes of storage on Gmail for free. In fact, 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:13.240 when Google first started, it was unlimited and there's actually 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.280 if you remember this, this is going way back to 1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:19.200 when Gmail started. Gmail started on April Fool's Day, so 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.800 everyone thought it was a joke because it was unlimited 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.920 email storage. And of course that changed as Google got 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:28.160 bigger and Gmail got more popular. But it was unlimited 1:10:29.560 --> 1:10:32.960 and it had a little count not a countdown, a 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:36.160 count up, So every second you were on that homepage 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:39.639 of Gmail, it would tick up another little tiny fraction 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:42.519 of a megabyte or a gigabyte of storage, and I 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:45.400 think it launched with one gig of storage. I can't 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:47.559 really remember. I'm sure I could look it up, but 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:49.920 it launched with so much storage. And you have to 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:54.280 remember at the time, Hotmail was the best thing going 1:10:54.360 --> 1:10:58.479 for email, and it gave you like ten megabytes of storage, 1:10:58.479 --> 1:11:01.280 and Gmail comes on and they're giving you a gig 1:11:01.320 --> 1:11:03.240 and people just thought, no way, there's no way this 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:03.759 is true. 1:11:03.840 --> 1:11:04.320 It can't be. 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:09.160 And so yes, it is good question, Tom, and clean 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:12.120 up that Gmail. Get those ninety nine thousand messages out 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:13.559 of there, and your. 1:11:13.439 --> 1:11:14.920 Life will be better for it. 1:11:15.960 --> 1:11:21.080 Okay, nearby Share for Windows is now available, So if 1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:24.000 you have a Windows computer and you have an Android phone, 1:11:24.000 --> 1:11:27.680 this is pretty handy. It's basically air drop for your 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.799 Android phone to your Windows computer. There was a beta 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:33.519 of this a couple of months ago. Google of course 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:37.760 launched figured out how people use it. They said it's 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:40.840 been installed by one point seven million people. Photos and 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:43.479 videos are the most popular type of file to send, 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:47.680 and they've seen fifty million files transferred between PCs and 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:50.559 Android devices. So if you have an Android and you 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:55.080 have a Windows computer, you can basically air drop between 1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:56.840 those two things. They have to be on the same 1:11:56.880 --> 1:11:59.600 Wi Fi network, but that's how it works. With the 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:03.599 launch of the actual program, they now have an estimated 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.120 time for file transfers. You can see how long it's 1:12:06.120 --> 1:12:09.679 going to take, and there's now an image preview within 1:12:09.760 --> 1:12:12.519 the device notification, so you know you're getting the right 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:16.120 file that's being shared. So again, nearby Share for Windows 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:18.280 is now available. If you have an Android phone you 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:21.240 want to exchange big files between your computer and your phone, 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:23.439 and vice versa, you can do it. 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:24.559 Go download it. 1:12:25.520 --> 1:12:27.599 Eight to eight rich one on one eight eight eight 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.439 seven four to two, four. 1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:31.880 To one zero one. This is rich on Tech. 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:38.320 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:42.919 out with you, talking technology. It's been a great show today. 1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:45.920 We're not done just yet. Eight to eight rich one 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:50.320 O one eight eight eight seven four to two. 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:52.599 Four to one zero one. Let's see. 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:54.240 We do have some phone lines open if you want 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:58.760 to give me a call and ask your question about technology. 1:12:58.840 --> 1:13:01.519 You can follow me on social media. I am at 1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:08.360 rich on Tech. I'm on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and I'm 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:11.000 still on threads. But it's hanging on by a thread. 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:15.200 I feel like this this social media social network is uh, 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:17.760 you know, it was the talk of the town and 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:21.240 now it's kind of uh, I don't know, it's unraveling. Okay, 1:13:21.320 --> 1:13:27.360 enough of the threads puns. Sometimes I just laugh at 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:30.200 my own jokes, both here in the studio and also 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.680 at home, and you know, it's just kind of one 1:13:33.720 --> 1:13:34.280 of those things. 1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:38.040 Yeah, it just comes with comes with age. I guess. 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:40.800 Coming up on this hour, old friend of the show, 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:44.519 travel expert Johnny Jet will explain the high tech travel 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:47.800 scam you need to be aware of personally. I was 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:51.439 just asking Johnny for some advice about a trip to 1:13:51.439 --> 1:13:54.680 Hawaii I'm trying to plan, and it's it's sometimes it's 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:58.640 nice to have these guests on speed dial because I'm like, hey, 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:00.400 you want to be on the show, all so can 1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:01.679 I ask you a side question? 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:02.200 You know? 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:04.719 And it's just I do that with a lot of guests. 1:14:04.760 --> 1:14:10.800 All right, let's go to Jeff. Jeff is in in Vernice, Florida. Jeff, 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:11.559 Did I get that right? 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:12.760 Yes? 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:13.000 Sir? 1:14:13.200 --> 1:14:15.040 All right, you're on with Rich. What's up? 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:16.679 Well? 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:24.040 You were talking about software for note taking. Yes, I 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:26.680 had a great one that I used on a Macintosh 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:30.559 back in the I don't know, late eighties and early nineties. 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:34.640 It was called more by Simantek. 1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:36.879 Oh, the security company. 1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:44.320 Yes, really, well before they, I guess dabbled in creating 1:14:44.520 --> 1:14:51.080 useful software, and this was extremely useful. It was they 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:58.120 called it an outlining program. You could capture your thoughts 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:06.040 just randomly got that, you know, collect them line by line, 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:12.720 and then use the mouse to organize them because their 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:19.880 mouse and uh uh return keys and indent keys to 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:26.040 organize the thoughts so that they were in hierarchical order. 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.559 Interesting drag and dropp or is this more. 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:31.960 Of just like drag and drop? 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:33.560 Okay? Wow? Interesting? 1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:38.000 So you can build an outline of these thoughts. And 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:42.680 what was beautiful is that then you could click a 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:51.759 button and create presentation charts that were organized to organize 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:56.479 your thoughts that way. For some reason, the antic didn't 1:15:56.880 --> 1:16:03.120 elect to upgrade uh the software, and then they dropped 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:05.200 it and nobody took it up. 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:06.599 Wow. 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:10.920 To continue this, I've never heard of this one, but 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:13.080 I'm looking up on the Wikipedia and it said it 1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:17.600 was selected editor's choice Mac User magazine best Organizer and 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:22.200 best product of nineteen eighty six. But here's what's interesting, Jeff, 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:27.599 what you're describing is exactly how Notion works. So have 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.400 you checked have you tried Notion at all? 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:30.479 No? 1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:32.360 Okay, so this is like. 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:35.680 The hot new program right now and everyone's using it 1:16:35.720 --> 1:16:38.760 because it's it's so flexible. But I'm not kidding. It's 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:43.160 exactly what you're talking about. It's outline based. It's very 1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:46.960 similar where it's drag and drop, and it's hierarchical. Tough 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:49.720 to say that word for me. You can organize things 1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:52.639 in a hierarchy by dragging. So let's say you create 1:16:52.680 --> 1:16:56.000 two pages. You can make one of the pages sort 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:58.400 of nest into the other page by dragging it into 1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:00.120 that page, and then you can even do a third 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:02.960 layer and have that page nest into that. So it 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:05.360 is really interesting in what you're talking about. This is 1:17:05.479 --> 1:17:10.919 kind of similar, but you know, a little bit different obviously. 1:17:10.960 --> 1:17:13.280 But if you look on the Wikipedia page too, Notion 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:18.200 is listed as an outline software, and so other other 1:17:18.320 --> 1:17:21.679 softwares that I mean they also not see there. They 1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:25.280 group it into note taking slash outliner software. So I 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:27.200 think that I don't think all of these that they 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:31.200 list are really outliner, but I do think Notion is. So, 1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:32.679 so what do you use these days now. 1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:38.000 Jeff, I don't use anything. I'm gleefully retired. 1:17:38.160 --> 1:17:40.519 Oh well, perfect, there you go, so you don't you 1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:43.840 don't need to take any notes anymore. No, but it 1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:46.080 sounded like back in the day you were you were 1:17:46.120 --> 1:17:47.880 all about this this more program. 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:51.280 Huh oh yeah, very nice. And do you still have 1:17:51.280 --> 1:17:53.200 a copy of your data from there or no? 1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:56.840 Yeah, somewhere somewhere. 1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:58.000 It's probably probably wouldn't. 1:17:58.000 --> 1:18:00.479 Well, yeah, in the box somewhere. 1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:04.639 Very fun. Well, thanks for listening down there in Florida today. 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:05.280 I appreciate it. 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:07.559 Thank you very much. 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:11.960 All right, thank you appreciate that. Yeah. 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:14.360 You know, look, people want to be organized in nineteen 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:16.439 eighty six just as much as they do today. It's 1:18:16.479 --> 1:18:19.080 just that today we have a thousand more options, and 1:18:19.200 --> 1:18:21.519 it's you know, it's funny now talking to Jeff, I'm 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.599 kind of like looking at Notion again. I'm like, ah, 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:25.320 I really want to figure out how to use this. 1:18:25.800 --> 1:18:28.599 I really want to like, I want to love it 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:31.800 because it's got everything I need, including AI. So AI 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.280 is built into Notion, which is really neat. So let's 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:37.280 just say, let's just say you put your notes from 1:18:37.360 --> 1:18:40.800 a meeting into this notion like into a page. You 1:18:40.840 --> 1:18:44.160 can tap the forward slash and then it brings up 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:47.280 AI and it brings up a whole bunch of stuff, 1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:50.479 one of those things being AI, so you can actually 1:18:50.720 --> 1:18:54.160 summarize I mean, you could do so much with AI 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.240 on here too. So it's built right in. It's really 1:18:56.320 --> 1:19:02.160 quite incredible. Let's see, let's go to Sarah. Sarah's in 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.160 Huntington Beach. Sarah, you're on with rich. 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:06.040 Oh yeah, how are you doing today? 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:07.760 I'm doing great? How are you? 1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:09.240 I'm good. 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.080 I'm kind of excited to hopefully get some information from 1:19:12.080 --> 1:19:16.439 you today about I don't know, three years ago, maybe 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:19.360 I was in Arizona and at a big old shopping 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:22.360 mall they had a traveling exhibit of a museum, and 1:19:22.479 --> 1:19:27.360 one of the exhibits and it was a virtual reality 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:30.719 experience and you just win. You put on the little goggles, 1:19:30.760 --> 1:19:33.920 you sat on the bench and it took you. When 1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:36.320 you watched, you were like on a little rowboat going 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:40.520 through and it was the graphics were almost like watercolor 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:42.720 paintings around you, but you felt like you were in it. 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:45.479 You're on this little boat and when the dog jumps 1:19:45.479 --> 1:19:47.200 in the boat, the boat tips and you grab on 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:48.920 the bench like you're going to fall out, and I 1:19:48.960 --> 1:19:50.719 was like, this is amazing. 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:51.799 I have to do this again. 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:55.880 And I mean when I look online, there's such a 1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:59.479 wide gambit of oh yeah, video you know, VR goggles 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.160 thirty nine, and then there's videos things for six hundred dollars, 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:06.080 and I'm I don't want to play video games. I 1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:09.920 just want that experience again, like maybe river rafting or 1:20:10.000 --> 1:20:12.680 going walking through a museum somewhere else. You know, I'm 1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:15.920 not really interested in games, and I've seen I've seen those, 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:19.280 but I don't know what I'm looking for. I don't know, 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:21.600 you know, what do I want? I know what I 1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:23.680 want to do, but I don't know what I you know, 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:24.800 what am I shopping for? 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:25.000 Here? 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:27.240 Were you stationary or were you moving? 1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:29.439 Yes, We're just like you're sitting on a bench and 1:20:29.520 --> 1:20:32.320 I could you not win that in the in the experience. 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:36.240 And I'm sure things have gotten you know, exponentially. 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:38.599 More you know, yeah, more vibrant in your mind. 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:41.080 You're just like, oh, and we you know, we were 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.280 eating popcorn while we did this, and you know it's 1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:44.479 we just we're. 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.240 Sitting in this little rowboat and then all of a sudden, 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:48.479 the dog jumps in and in the in your what 1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:51.280 you're seeing is your boat tip And I'm not kidding. 1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.519 I help them, and I was like, oh, could have, 1:20:54.120 --> 1:20:58.320 but it was very primitive compared to what I'm sure. 1:20:58.080 --> 1:20:58.960 There's out there now. 1:20:59.479 --> 1:21:01.559 But I want to do it again, you know, And 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:03.680 I don't know what to shop for to ask for, 1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:06.759 and I'm you know, I'm not one of the techies 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:08.720 of the universe. So I need some help here. 1:21:09.000 --> 1:21:10.719 Okay, Well, I have some money. 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:12.400 I wanted them to do this again. I want to 1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:14.120 be able to do it whenever I want, not hope 1:21:14.120 --> 1:21:16.200 to gosh, it comes back to Arizona someday, and I'm 1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:16.919 not in Arizona. 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:17.880 So that's the other part. 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:19.200 Yeah, well, a couple things. 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:22.040 So if you want just an experience that's similar that 1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:24.920 I think you would really love, check out a place 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:30.240 called Dreamscape. Dreamscape Immersive is sort of a high tech 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:32.920 VR movie theater, but it's like an experience. And I've 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.320 done a couple of these. I've done a lot of them, actually, 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:40.080 and they've got locations in La Saudi Arabia. Well, I 1:21:40.120 --> 1:21:42.439 guess La is the main one. They Wow, they must 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:44.840 have closed a bunch of locations. Wow, they had a 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:47.519 whole bunch more and they're all closed, but La still 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:50.719 has one at the Century City Mall Westfield Century City. 1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:53.480 If you haven't tried this, one hundred percent. 1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:54.439 Go go, go, go go. 1:21:54.600 --> 1:21:57.080 You will love it before you do anything else, Sarah, 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:59.439 go to this Dreamscape, pay a couple bucks. I think 1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:01.599 it's like twenty b ticket, thirty bucks, whatever it is, 1:22:02.080 --> 1:22:04.200 and just try one of these adventures. They have one 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:06.639 that's like an alien zoo. That's the first one I did. 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:10.360 They've got an underwater They've got one that's sort of 1:22:10.400 --> 1:22:13.320 like Indiana Jones. They've got one that's based on a 1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:16.840 DreamWorks movie How to Train Your Dragon. And they've got 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:18.920 a Men in Black one And I don't know if 1:22:18.920 --> 1:22:21.400 I did that one. I can't remember, but definitely check 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:24.800 out Dreamscape Immersive. Gotta go do that. It's really really 1:22:24.840 --> 1:22:28.760 cool that that'll be similar. The other thing is two 1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:32.400 Bit Circus in downtown they have in Los Angeles. They 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.360 have some stuff like this that's really really cool and 1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:38.720 it's actually walking VR like I was on the side 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:41.360 of a cliff and it was just so incredible. But 1:22:41.400 --> 1:22:42.840 if you want to do this at home, I think 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:45.000 the thing to get is the Metaquest too. 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:45.360 Now. 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:49.000 I can't recommend a specific app that you can run 1:22:49.080 --> 1:22:51.280 on here, but I can tell you that if you 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.400 want to walk through cities and things like that, they 1:22:53.439 --> 1:22:55.920 have this is this is the gold standard right now. 1:22:56.520 --> 1:22:59.519 It's about three hundred dollars for this device. It'll probably 1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:01.320 go on so during the holidays, So if you can 1:23:01.360 --> 1:23:03.280 wait a little bit, you probably want to do that. 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:07.599 But if you really want to wait, I don't think. 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:10.360 I don't think I could recommend spending thirty five hundred dollars, 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:12.960 but you said you had some money to spend. Apple 1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:16.080 is going to come out with their VR headset sometime 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:18.400 next year, and it is going to be quite incredible, 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:22.360 and I think it's going to unlock some really incredible experiences, 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:26.519 things that the Metaquest can't even do, because Apple's is 1:23:26.640 --> 1:23:29.320 more augmented reality as well, which means you can see 1:23:29.320 --> 1:23:32.200 your surroundings, you can get up, you can walk around. 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:36.120 But I think the Metaquest too right now is probably 1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:37.840 going to be a pretty good bet and you can 1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:41.160 really immerse yourself in some of the experiences. I was 1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:44.040 talking about the hotel I wanted to stay at in Hawaii, 1:23:44.439 --> 1:23:47.280 and I actually put on my headset and I was 1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:50.160 It was very primitive, but I was able to be 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.400 in the lobby of the hotel, in the in the 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.840 main areas of the hotel. Stepping outside the hotel. I 1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:58.320 couldn't walk through it per se. But I think that 1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:00.760 that's going to be one of the biggest iplications of 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.880 VR is going to be travel, not just to experience 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.880 different places, but also to research. So instead of going 1:24:06.880 --> 1:24:08.960 on trip Advisor and just kind of, you know, clicking 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.160 through a million pictures, you're actually gonna be able to 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:13.599 stand and look at this hotel in front of you, 1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:17.240 walk into the lobby, walk upstairs into a room, check 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:20.559 out the beach, check out the facilities at this place. 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:23.960 It's going to be quite incredible. So Sarah medequest to 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:26.880 check it out if that's what you want now, otherwise 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:29.160 if you really want to spend some cash. I think 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:34.240 the Apple Apple headset is going to be quite incredible later, but. 1:24:34.240 --> 1:24:36.200 We don't know when that's coming out. Sometime next year. 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:39.280 All right, coming up on the show, we still got 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:41.519 I'm going to talk about Samsung where they're doing their 1:24:41.520 --> 1:24:46.160 next event, Amazon One, which uses your palm to. 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:48.320 Check out that's coming to all whole food stores. 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:53.559 I'll explain that, and Johnny Jet gonna talk travel, travel 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.360 tech plus maybe we'll squeeze in some more calls at 1:24:56.360 --> 1:24:58.599 Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:24:58.720 --> 1:24:59.759 four to two four. 1:24:59.680 --> 1:25:01.439 One zero one. 1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:11.519 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Casey is in Millington, Tennessee. Casey, 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:12.719 you're on with rich. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:14.519 Hey, rich how you do it? 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:15.439 Thanks for taking my call. 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:17.160 I'm doing great. How are you? 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:18.639 I'm doing right? 1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:21.960 Thanks? Hey, uh yeah, I had a question for you. 1:25:22.680 --> 1:25:25.840 I wonder what would be a good recommendation for affordable wireless 1:25:25.880 --> 1:25:28.680 scander that could use with just an iPad or iPhone 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:32.280 that would require computer so good to use as well. 1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:33.719 Oh good question. 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:35.640 I can tell you the one that I really like 1:25:35.800 --> 1:25:40.280 that I've tested and it works great with Android and iPhone. 1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:43.920 I'm trying to see if they still make it and 1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:47.720 it's still around. Yeah, okay, it's called the scan Snap 1:25:48.280 --> 1:25:50.240 I X one hundred. I'm trying to see do they 1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:52.400 have a newer model of this. It's been a while, 1:25:52.479 --> 1:25:55.920 but it's this is this is one is great. It's 1:25:56.200 --> 1:26:00.880 it's portable, it's small, and it does can act right 1:26:01.000 --> 1:26:03.280 to your phone, which is really nice, so you don't 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:07.479 have to necessarily have sort of any sort of like middleman, 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:10.040 you know. It just kind of like works, and it 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:14.879 works for receipts. And look, there's a million different scanners 1:26:14.880 --> 1:26:16.479 out there, I think, you know, but a lot of 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:18.280 them are pretty big, A lot of them are there. 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.280 Do you need a flatbed though, that's a question. 1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:23.479 No, I want something that's pretty portable and just wanted 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:25.519 I wouldn't have to look computer when I want to 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:28.360 use it to stand something real quick, you know with 1:26:28.479 --> 1:26:30.600 my phone. 1:26:29.760 --> 1:26:33.479 Yea, yeah, And so I think that the only and 1:26:33.560 --> 1:26:35.920 I would need to check on this, but I think 1:26:35.960 --> 1:26:38.240 that you might need to be on the same network 1:26:38.280 --> 1:26:41.519 as your phone, or what would happen is this device 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:43.880 would you'd let's say you're in the field, right, you 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:47.200 can scan something like receipts or papers, but then you'd 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:50.120 have to when you get back to your home WiFi 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:52.000 that's when it would upload. 1:26:52.120 --> 1:26:53.920 Or you might be able to just use the the. 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:56.679 Hotspot on your phone to kind of get that into 1:26:56.720 --> 1:26:59.040 your phone. So I would have to because I use 1:26:59.120 --> 1:27:01.599 this at home, and so I'm not sure like out 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.160 if I was like in an isolated place, without a 1:27:04.240 --> 1:27:06.280 sort of a Wi Fi hotspot or something, if this 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:08.920 would still work the same way it does. Like I'm 1:27:08.960 --> 1:27:10.800 you know, like Bluetooth or whatever to the phone, Like 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:12.960 I don't think it does that, but it does do 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:17.320 Wi Fi and it really works pretty well. So I 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.200 think you could also plug it into the phone if 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:21.479 you need it to, like you can actually physically plug 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:23.639 it in. But it's great. It's a it's a super 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.880 simple little scanner. I also like that it can scan 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:29.680 to the phone or it can scan directly to the cloud. 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:31.840 So I have mindset up where it can go right 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:35.200 to like Google Cloud, Google Drive rather and it's just 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:36.960 you know, I sit there and I take maybe once 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:39.720 a month, I'll just scan all my documents, all my 1:27:40.000 --> 1:27:42.720 bills and paperwork and whatever needs to be kept. I'll 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:44.559 just scan it and it just goes right up into 1:27:44.600 --> 1:27:47.400 there and it's it's it's pretty it's a pretty good system. 1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:49.120 I think it's kind of like the gold standard for 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:51.200 small portable scanners. 1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:54.240 Okay, yeah, and that's actually what I use a lot 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:56.080 is Evernote, And I'm kind of wondering to see what 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:59.320 your thoughts are that Evernote as for a lot of 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.200 out of concern any things about them. I've been using 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:04.040 it for about fifteen years. I've got a lot of 1:28:04.080 --> 1:28:06.680 stuff in there, but I'm worried how much longer they. 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:07.400 May be around. 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:09.720 Well here's the thing, and so you know, I kind 1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:11.400 of talked about this a little bit earlier. ID I 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:13.240 didn't get into the nitty gritty of what's going on 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:16.639 with Evernoe, But they were purchased by an Italian company 1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:20.280 called Bending Spoons. And the funny thing is, I mean 1:28:20.360 --> 1:28:23.639 this is a big company where they're well funded and 1:28:23.920 --> 1:28:26.200 now they own Ever, no, I don't think that. 1:28:26.720 --> 1:28:28.040 I mean, look, it could go two ways. 1:28:28.080 --> 1:28:30.000 It could either be it could fizzle out in the 1:28:30.000 --> 1:28:32.680 next year, or I mean I think a lot of 1:28:32.880 --> 1:28:35.280 enough people have their information. And ever note where I 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:38.280 don't think this Bending Spoons bought this to run it 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:40.360 into the ground. I think they bought it to make 1:28:40.400 --> 1:28:44.000 it better. Now, what gives me hope about Bending Spoons 1:28:44.120 --> 1:28:46.840 is that they make an app that is incredible. It's 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:54.200 called Splice and it's my favorite app for editing on 1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:58.960 mobile devices. And they also make another app, Let's see, 1:28:59.000 --> 1:29:03.320 are they the ones betime behind this remedy. It's this 1:29:03.360 --> 1:29:07.679 app that does AI Photo kind of like I'm actually 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:09.200 gonna talk about it later in the show. It does 1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:12.439 like AI Photo stuff and it's really incredible. So and 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:14.960 if you look at their website, I mean this Bending Spoons, 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:18.679 they do things in a very like nice beautiful way, 1:29:18.720 --> 1:29:22.200 almost like an apple way. And so I think, you know, 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:24.479 I think that the thing that has kept me from 1:29:24.560 --> 1:29:26.559 wanting to continue and ever know is just how it 1:29:26.640 --> 1:29:29.599 keeps getting more and more expensive every year. And so now, 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:31.000 like I said, it's up to like one hundred and 1:29:31.040 --> 1:29:33.759 thirty bucks a year, which you know, I guess is fine, 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:35.920 But I also think that it got a little bloated 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:36.240 in the. 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:37.120 Past couple of years. 1:29:37.439 --> 1:29:39.880 And I'm hoping that Bending Spoons kind of rewrites it 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:43.640 and makes it faster and smoother. But I think for 1:29:43.720 --> 1:29:45.639 now it's probably if you've got fifteen years of stuff 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:48.240 in there, obviously make a backup, you know, export your 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:52.400 data and keep it. But you know, just you don't 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:53.920 have to stop using it overnight, you know. 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:59.679 Okay, all right, well I appreciate all right, good question, 1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:01.960 K see, thanks so much. Oh look at that coming 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:04.400 up next, Johnny Jet Travel Expert going to talk about 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:07.639 the travel scam you need to know about plus international travel. 1:30:07.920 --> 1:30:09.800 It's gonna give us some tips and tricks. You are 1:30:09.840 --> 1:30:15.559 listening to rich on Tech. Oh, welcome back to rich 1:30:15.640 --> 1:30:22.320 On Tech. Rich Demiro partying with you on this weekend. 1:30:22.439 --> 1:30:26.720 Hopefully you're having a great day. Great guest you may 1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:30.719 you may know the name Johnny Jet. Just came back 1:30:30.800 --> 1:30:35.000 from lots of travel. Johnny Jet's going to talk to 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:38.160 us about some high tech travel scams, the one you 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:40.600 need to be aware of, and just all kinds of 1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:41.479 travel goodies. 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:42.800 Johnny, Welcome to the show. 1:30:43.200 --> 1:30:44.400 Hey, thanks for having me on. 1:30:44.520 --> 1:30:47.000 Can I call you Johnny or is it always Johnny Jett? 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:48.719 Just Johnny Jet. 1:30:48.840 --> 1:30:52.240 I'm kidding, so welcome to the show. 1:30:52.680 --> 1:30:54.320 I can't believe it took me six months to get 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:58.160 you on. Yeah too, you know, but thanks for being here. 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:00.400 And so where did you go? You've you were on 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:02.960 a whirlwind of travel. I know, you know, it's like 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:05.599 it went from zero to like one hundred definitely. 1:31:05.800 --> 1:31:09.000 I mean during the pandemic, I was so cautious, too cautious. 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:11.679 But you know, back out I just came back from 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:13.679 I was in seven countries in the last five weeks. 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:15.840 I took my two kids, three and six years old. 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:18.160 My wife and I are on the plane from Toronto 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:22.160 to Spain. We're like, what are we thinking? Yeah, but 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:24.120 it turned out to be one of the best trips 1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:27.599 of our lives. And yeah, Europe is crowded, it's hot, 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:29.360 but it is memorable. 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:31.639 So well, I've said this on the show. 1:31:31.760 --> 1:31:34.519 I went to Italy last year with my wife on 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:36.800 a she had a work trip and I just kind 1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:38.519 of tagged along for four days. It was kind of like, 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:40.320 we Hemden Hall, like should we do it? It's a 1:31:40.360 --> 1:31:42.880 lot of money, this and that. And I'm not kidding. 1:31:42.880 --> 1:31:45.240 I have not ever gone a day in the past 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:48.160 year without thinking of that trip because it was so incredible. 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:50.439 So when in doubt, go. 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:54.160 Right, definitely. I mean time is now. I mean, we 1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:56.200 know what it's like to be locked up and you 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:59.120 can't go. So I think that's why Europe is so inundated, 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:00.639 and I think the rest of the world too. 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:01.879 And the and the prices. 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:03.800 That's the only thing that I really take issue with 1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:06.479 is the price of travel right now is just through 1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:09.240 the roof. And I totally understand if you're if you're 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:12.160 sitting there thinking like rich, it's so expensive right now 1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:13.760 and I get it. It is and believe me, I've 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:16.559 paid these prices where I'm like, this is kind of 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.600 not cool, but what are you gonna do. It's just 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:22.240 the going rate right now because it is in demand. 1:32:22.320 --> 1:32:25.479 So but people had some savings too from the pandemic. 1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:27.200 Like we had like our little travel fund. It was 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:29.479 like it was well funded because we were like, well, 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:30.519 we can't use it right now. 1:32:30.760 --> 1:32:33.479 Anyway, there are ways around, which we can talk about 1:32:33.520 --> 1:32:36.679 another time, but there are ways around to travel without 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:37.880 spending a lot of money. 1:32:37.960 --> 1:32:41.599 So Okay, we're gonna we'll dive into that in another show. 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:44.120 But let's get through some of these things Johnny Jet, 1:32:44.120 --> 1:32:46.799 because I want to. Let's first talk about this Twitter. 1:32:47.160 --> 1:32:50.639 This Twitter user that discovered scam numbers listed for airlines. 1:32:50.680 --> 1:32:53.559 So basically, his flight was canceled. He called a number 1:32:53.560 --> 1:32:55.400 that he googled, and what happened. 1:32:55.520 --> 1:32:57.519 Well, he was in New York's JFK Airport, but he 1:32:57.520 --> 1:33:02.759 did he googled Delta Airlines JFK airport number, which I mean, 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:05.879 I mean, how how's Google You're gonna monitor this stuff 1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:08.799 when you're just searching like a specific airport like JFK 1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:12.160 airport phone number. Yeah, you're bound to get a scam number, 1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:14.559 and sure enough it did. And it's not just Delta. 1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:16.400 By the way he looked up. He did screenshots of 1:33:16.439 --> 1:33:18.920 all the airlines. You know, if you're gonna look up 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:21.920 a phone number, don't put in a specific airport like that. 1:33:22.600 --> 1:33:24.360 And you don't I don't know if you really want 1:33:24.360 --> 1:33:27.720 to trust Delta or Google anyway, Yeah, go to make 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:29.760 sure an eight hundred number. It's got to be an 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:33.000 eight hundred number. And you know somewherelines like Frontier don't 1:33:33.000 --> 1:33:36.439 even have front phone numbers. Really, Yeah, I would go 1:33:36.520 --> 1:33:39.000 directly to their website and look for it that way 1:33:39.080 --> 1:33:41.439 instead of doing a Google search. 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:43.120 But if you're going to do a Google search, just 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:46.080 to make sure it's just a generic one, not specific. 1:33:46.400 --> 1:33:49.240 Yeah, I tried searching like just Delta, and it did 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:50.720 come up like up at the top like on a 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:53.360 you know how Google like surfaces like little bits of 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:55.920 data at the top, you know, without clicking, And that's 1:33:55.920 --> 1:33:57.519 what came up like and it did seem to be 1:33:57.560 --> 1:33:59.800 the right phone number. But the problem with googling phone 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:02.000 umb vers is that these scam artists know that people 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:04.120 are doing this, and so of course they prey upon that. 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:07.840 So when in doubt, go to the website and you know, 1:34:08.080 --> 1:34:09.680 just find the phone number on the website. A lot 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:11.639 of times it's hidden because they want you to use 1:34:11.720 --> 1:34:14.880 the chat functionality or they want you to use you know, 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:16.439 email or whatever. 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:18.920 But you know, go to the website, go to the app. 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:22.080 And he went back and forth with them. Yeah, and 1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:23.960 you know they're trying to get his money. You're trying 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:27.160 to get his debit card. Never use a debit card, 1:34:27.240 --> 1:34:31.599 always pay with a credit card. There's little there's obviously 1:34:31.640 --> 1:34:35.720 some red flags, and you know, savvy travelers like I 1:34:35.720 --> 1:34:38.519 think most of your listeners know not the fall form. 1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:40.600 But you know, when you're desperate and you're in a 1:34:40.640 --> 1:34:42.400 hurry and you're in a pinch trying to get on 1:34:42.479 --> 1:34:45.000 the next flight, you know, you're vulnerable. 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:46.280 And that's what they that's what they pray on. 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:47.080 Yeah. 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:49.519 So I'm looking at your Johnny Jet dot com Twelve 1:34:49.600 --> 1:34:52.439 things I learned from traveling to Europe, And you mentioned 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:55.160 the taxi app that a friend told me about when 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:57.960 I went to Italy. I just assumed, yeah, I just 1:34:58.000 --> 1:35:00.640 assumed you'd use Uber, which they had a big advertisement 1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:01.439 in the airport. 1:35:01.680 --> 1:35:03.840 But apparently everyone uses this app. Tell me about it. 1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:05.879 Well, you don't want to use Uber in Italy because 1:35:06.000 --> 1:35:08.240 you can only use black cars and they're about five 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:11.920 times more expensive than getting a regular taxi. So use 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:14.960 this free now. It runs just like Uber. You put 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.960 your credit card info in, you order it the same way. 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:19.840 And what's nice about it is you know, first of all, 1:35:19.840 --> 1:35:21.560 you don't have to worry about any translation, you just 1:35:21.600 --> 1:35:23.840 put in your destination. You don't have to talk to 1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:27.439 the driver, although obviously it's great too. And also when 1:35:27.479 --> 1:35:29.240 you get out of the car, you know there's no 1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:32.439 money being transferred, it's just they take it from your 1:35:32.439 --> 1:35:34.120 credit card. And also what I like about it is 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:36.639 it keeps the taxi drivers honest, which. 1:35:36.439 --> 1:35:37.599 I mean I think a lot of them are. 1:35:37.720 --> 1:35:39.760 But you know, when you're paying by cash, they can 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:42.040 take you the long way, but this way they're not 1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:45.960 going to take you the long way. And so definitely, Yeah, 1:35:46.040 --> 1:35:48.040 a lot of my local friends say they use it 1:35:48.040 --> 1:35:51.320 all the time, but just be warned that, especially in 1:35:51.439 --> 1:35:55.599 Rome and in Florence area, it is difficult to get 1:35:55.640 --> 1:35:57.280 a taxi or even a car service. 1:35:57.600 --> 1:35:59.479 Oh wow, And I mean I. 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:03.160 Almost smissed my train from Rome to Naples because I 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:04.840 was cutting it short and I could not get when 1:36:04.840 --> 1:36:07.400 I had the hotel helping me. And then when I 1:36:07.400 --> 1:36:10.000 got off, I got took a Princess Cruise for seven days, 1:36:10.160 --> 1:36:14.439 and then my taxi driver canceled the night before to 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:16.519 get a ride from the. 1:36:16.439 --> 1:36:17.360 Port to Rome. 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:20.840 It was like pigeons at the beach trying to get 1:36:22.000 --> 1:36:24.760 a bag of Potata chips. Everyone, all the passengers who 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:28.559 did not pre order were just trying scrambling to try 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:29.800 and get it because it was hot out. 1:36:30.680 --> 1:36:32.479 That works in the US too. By the way, the 1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:34.800 pre order you can do that with Uber and I've 1:36:34.840 --> 1:36:37.439 done it. But here's the thing I've noticed that when 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:39.760 you pre order, because it obviously takes a little bit 1:36:39.800 --> 1:36:41.720 of the pressure off, right because you're gonna have a 1:36:41.800 --> 1:36:43.880 ride in the morning when you wake up, it's more 1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:46.479 expensive to pre order because they know that, they know 1:36:46.640 --> 1:36:49.120 that you know you're getting something in return, which is 1:36:49.400 --> 1:36:52.400 peace of mind. So it may be cheaper to do 1:36:52.439 --> 1:36:54.439 it on demand, but it's you know, then you got 1:36:54.439 --> 1:36:55.799 to you're taking your chances. 1:36:56.200 --> 1:36:56.439 Yeah. 1:36:56.520 --> 1:37:00.240 I think the flat rate between Chibetechia the Port to Rome, 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:01.760 which is just over an hour, as one hundred and 1:37:01.800 --> 1:37:02.439 twenty euros. 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:04.799 I paid three hundred and fifty euros. 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:05.320 Oh wow. 1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:08.240 All the drivers are just canceling on people because this 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:09.519 is their time to make some money. 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:11.240 I mean, they're making up for the pandemic. 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:13.880 What did you, I mean, what did you think of 1:37:14.360 --> 1:37:17.800 Google Translate? You downloaded that? You think it's better than 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:19.600 the Apple one built into the iPhone or what? 1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:22.000 Yeah, you know what, I like it. 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:24.120 You know, I only had one or two drivers that 1:37:24.200 --> 1:37:27.080 did not speak English, so I used it and we 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:28.880 had no problem. I Also, what I like about the 1:37:28.920 --> 1:37:31.040 Google Translate is, you know, if you're in a real 1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:33.720 Italian restaurant where it's not a tourist section and the 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:37.599 menus in Italian or whatever language, whatever country you're in, 1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:40.320 you can just hit the camera icon and it translated 1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:43.040 for you, which is brilliant. And you know, that makes 1:37:43.080 --> 1:37:45.639 a big difference, because again, when you travel, you don't 1:37:45.680 --> 1:37:47.960 really want to go to these touristy restaurants that cater 1:37:48.160 --> 1:37:51.240 to Americans. The food is not that good and it's overpriced. 1:37:51.640 --> 1:37:53.280 Try and go where the locals go, but it's going 1:37:53.320 --> 1:37:54.240 to be in the local language. 1:37:54.240 --> 1:37:54.559 The menu. 1:37:54.840 --> 1:37:56.920 Yeah, the best restaurant I went to in Rome was 1:37:57.280 --> 1:37:59.639 recommended by a local and it was. It was incredible 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:02.439 and it was super local. Uh okay, the e SIM 1:38:02.960 --> 1:38:07.280 so the the service is always an issue overseas. You know, 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:09.200 people don't want to pay theyn't want to you know, 1:38:09.360 --> 1:38:11.839 pay for a ton of extra roaming data and stuff. 1:38:12.640 --> 1:38:13.439 What do you use? 1:38:14.479 --> 1:38:17.000 Well, I would call your provider first, find out if 1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:18.200 they have an international plan. 1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:20.759 I have T Mobile. They do a great job, although 1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:21.599 it could be it. 1:38:21.520 --> 1:38:23.880 Could be slow once in a while. So one of 1:38:23.920 --> 1:38:26.040 my buddies who owns cilly Are abroad is like, listen, 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:28.840 use this company. You biggie U b I g I 1:38:28.960 --> 1:38:31.880 dot com And uh, you know, because I've an I 1:38:32.160 --> 1:38:34.640 have an e SIM in my phone. You just sign up. 1:38:34.680 --> 1:38:36.960 It literally took less than five minutes. So I had 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:39.600 a second line that I could toggle between if I 1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:42.200 needed to, I could just leave them both going and 1:38:42.240 --> 1:38:45.080 that pay for all my data. I actually paid fourteen 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:48.040 dollars worth of ten gigabytes and it was way too much. 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:51.839 I only use one gigabyte. So, and they have plans 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:53.720 all around the world. It's not just Italy, it's they 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.800 can do it Europe, you can do it in North America, Asia, wherever, 1:38:57.800 --> 1:38:59.640 And there's a lot of companies out there. So if 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:01.439 you're going to in one country, like if you're gonna 1:39:01.439 --> 1:39:02.880 be in France, you might just want to use Orange. 1:39:02.880 --> 1:39:04.120 If you're going to be in Italy, you might just 1:39:04.160 --> 1:39:06.759 want to use TIM. You can go to their stores. 1:39:06.760 --> 1:39:09.120 But it's nice to have an eSIM. If you don't 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:11.800 have a newer phone, then you can look looking too 1:39:11.840 --> 1:39:14.800 getting your phone unlocked if it's not already, and just 1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:17.320 you know, switching SIM cards, but that's kind of a. 1:39:17.240 --> 1:39:20.520 Pain, yeah, the switching sims. And most of the American 1:39:20.640 --> 1:39:24.160 phones do not have dual SIM functionality. Some of the 1:39:24.520 --> 1:39:27.599 international ones do, with the American ones don't, and so 1:39:27.840 --> 1:39:29.920 you would literally have to take out your SIM card 1:39:30.320 --> 1:39:32.840 and put in the other SIM card, which is kind 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:35.080 of annoying. So if you have an eSIM, you can 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.200 have both of them at the same time, which is 1:39:37.320 --> 1:39:40.679 nice because you can activate Wi Fi calling and texting 1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:43.600 on your regular line from like Verizon or AT and T, 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:46.160 turn off roaming, and still get those calls and texts, 1:39:46.400 --> 1:39:48.719 but then for all your data in that foreign country, 1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:50.960 you can use the eSIM all right, now, this was 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:53.280 a new one. You said, have a four digit pin 1:39:53.439 --> 1:39:54.400 for your credit card. 1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:55.160 Tell me about that. 1:39:55.720 --> 1:39:58.360 Yeah, Well, we were in Germany and trying to get 1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:01.479 a train to downtown Munich from the airport, and the 1:40:01.560 --> 1:40:03.720 train was there and I'm just scrambling. I wouldn't take 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:05.920 my credit card because it says you need a four 1:40:05.920 --> 1:40:06.360 digit pin. 1:40:06.400 --> 1:40:07.320 I'm like, I don't think. 1:40:07.200 --> 1:40:09.200 I ever set this up, and if I did, I 1:40:09.240 --> 1:40:11.720 definitely don't remember my pin. So anyway, I ended up 1:40:11.800 --> 1:40:13.559 using my ATM card, which I had to go into 1:40:13.600 --> 1:40:17.360 my app, unlock it and then use it. And that's 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:19.840 the way I bought my card, because there's no man 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:22.240 booth or anything. There was just you know, it's all machines. 1:40:22.320 --> 1:40:25.200 So make sure that you know your four digit pin 1:40:25.360 --> 1:40:28.160 for your credit card and create one if not, and 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:32.120 make sure it's four digits not six digits, because you 1:40:32.360 --> 1:40:34.439 have a problems. And it's nice to have two different 1:40:34.439 --> 1:40:36.800 credit cards just in case one doesn't work, because there's 1:40:36.840 --> 1:40:40.320 a lot of you know, a lot of these unmanned stations. 1:40:40.760 --> 1:40:43.960 And when I was in Tokyo last year, I'm not kidding. 1:40:44.120 --> 1:40:47.439 My card, my debit card was turned off the second 1:40:47.479 --> 1:40:50.400 I tried one transaction, and I had to sit on 1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:53.040 the phone my bank for a half an hour to 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:56.040 try to get this thing reactivated. It was an incredibly 1:40:56.800 --> 1:41:01.080 horrific process. And so tell your company before you leave. 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:03.000 I know, it seems weird that you still have to 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:05.160 do that, because I figured in the year twenty twenty three, 1:41:05.200 --> 1:41:06.760 why would you have to do that? Yeah, you still 1:41:06.840 --> 1:41:09.439 do some time. So went in doubt, call your bank, 1:41:09.479 --> 1:41:11.880 let them know you're traveling. All right, Finally I just 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:16.320 got another minute here this ATM conversion. The ATM always 1:41:16.360 --> 1:41:19.040 says like, do you want to accept the conversion or decline? 1:41:19.479 --> 1:41:21.760 It's like a trick question. Tell me how to answer that. 1:41:21.600 --> 1:41:24.920 Protely trick. Always decline it. Pay in local currency. 1:41:24.960 --> 1:41:27.400 I first learned about this over a dozen years ago 1:41:27.680 --> 1:41:29.920 when I was shopping in Herod's in London and they 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:32.040 swipe my credit card and they go, always like to 1:41:32.040 --> 1:41:32.800 pay in US dollars. 1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:33.960 I'm like, yeah, that's easy. 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:37.080 Turns out they get a piece of the pie and 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:42.320 it's not as good as a transfer rate. And so 1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:44.719 always pay in local currency. You just say nope, paying 1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:47.519 pounds or what if you're in Italy, say pay in euros? 1:41:48.040 --> 1:41:50.240 So deny it, okay, local currency. 1:41:50.000 --> 1:41:54.519 So just to be clear, you see accept conversion, decline conversion. 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:57.200 You always say decline, and you never want to pay 1:41:57.200 --> 1:41:59.200 in US dollars. You want to pay in the local 1:42:00.360 --> 1:42:02.000 definitely the local currency. 1:42:02.120 --> 1:42:03.960 But contact your bank too and find out if they 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:06.040 have any partners with ATM so you don't get hit 1:42:06.080 --> 1:42:09.360 with the you know, fees for using someone else's network. 1:42:09.840 --> 1:42:11.240 In that way, you can save some money and don't 1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:13.120 keep going to the ATM. You know, just go once 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:16.400 in a while. So take out enough cash and you know, 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:18.960 I pay everything with my with my phone or with 1:42:19.000 --> 1:42:19.840 my credit card. 1:42:20.040 --> 1:42:22.080 Okay, but here's my question. Here's my question. 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:25.439 So one time I got I got stuck in Japan 1:42:25.640 --> 1:42:29.120 because I landed and my my ATM card didn't work 1:42:29.200 --> 1:42:31.080 to take out cash, which I typically take out some 1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:33.760 local cash, I couldn't and I couldn't get on the 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:37.439 train because I needed that cash. They wouldn't take a card. 1:42:37.800 --> 1:42:40.320 So do you recommend in the airport before you leave 1:42:41.479 --> 1:42:42.679 converting some cash. 1:42:42.920 --> 1:42:43.479 I don't. 1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:46.800 I don't ever use those currency exchange booths. They rip 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:49.640 you off. You know, if you're really nervous traveler, you 1:42:49.640 --> 1:42:52.240 can go to your bank, find out what the change 1:42:52.240 --> 1:42:55.680 fee is and do get some cash. For instances like that. 1:42:55.760 --> 1:42:58.439 But you know, I use a major bank. Once I land. 1:42:58.560 --> 1:43:00.360 You can use it in the at and the airport 1:43:00.479 --> 1:43:03.160 or go to you know, a repudal bank in the city. 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:04.800 Right, And that was a while ago, by the way, 1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:06.639 Now it's been a lot better. When I first started 1:43:06.680 --> 1:43:08.280 going to Japan, it was a lot trickier, Like I 1:43:08.520 --> 1:43:10.880 had City Bank at the time, and I could only 1:43:10.960 --> 1:43:14.800 use their ATM. I couldn't use any local ATM except that. Yeah, 1:43:14.840 --> 1:43:16.320 I mean now things have changed. It's gotten a lot. 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:18.040 I've never had a problem in Japan, and I carried 1:43:18.080 --> 1:43:21.080 multiple credit cards. I have America Express Visa MasterCard just 1:43:21.240 --> 1:43:24.879 in case, but Visa MasterCard are accepted everywhere like they're commercial. 1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:27.200 All right, Johnny Jet, thanks so much for joining me today. 1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:27.880 I appreciate it. 1:43:28.080 --> 1:43:29.080 Hey, thanks for having me. 1:43:29.040 --> 1:43:31.679 All right, Johnny Jet dot com. Twelve things I learned 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:35.000 from traveling to Europe this summer. Also on the website 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:37.680 rich on tech dot tv, scroll down to where it 1:43:37.720 --> 1:43:40.559 says guests at the bottom and you can see all 1:43:40.640 --> 1:43:43.040 of the incredible guests that we have on the show. 1:43:43.320 --> 1:43:44.719 All right, coming up, we're. 1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:46.960 Going to close out the show with the feedback segment. 1:43:47.040 --> 1:43:48.240 And I'm gonna tell you how you can. 1:43:48.120 --> 1:43:52.559 Get an incredible AI headshop for great you're listening to 1:43:52.800 --> 1:44:03.400 rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Closing 1:44:03.479 --> 1:44:07.320 out our number three of the show. This is a 1:44:07.360 --> 1:44:11.080 party because it goes so fast. It's like any good party. Right, 1:44:14.080 --> 1:44:15.960 let me get through a couple things before we get 1:44:16.000 --> 1:44:21.240 to the feedback segment. First off, Amazon one is coming 1:44:21.240 --> 1:44:23.600 to all Whole food stores. If you're not familiar with 1:44:23.640 --> 1:44:29.080 what Amazon One is, this is Amazon's palm recognition service 1:44:29.880 --> 1:44:33.200 that lets you pay with the palm of your hand. 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:36.679 So already it's being used at four hundred locations across 1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:39.520 the US. I did a story on this for KTLA 1:44:40.240 --> 1:44:43.080 and tested it out. You basically scan your hand to 1:44:43.160 --> 1:44:45.559 register it, you link a credit card, and now you 1:44:45.560 --> 1:44:50.000 can pay with just your palm, No phone, no nothing necessary. 1:44:50.560 --> 1:44:53.719 So now this is going in to all Whole food 1:44:53.840 --> 1:44:57.680 stores in the US, all five hundred plus Whole Foods locations, 1:44:58.280 --> 1:45:00.840 and you'll also be able to link your Prime membership, 1:45:00.920 --> 1:45:04.720 so you'll get your Prime points or at your Prime discounts. 1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:07.840 Plus that no need for a wallet or a phone. 1:45:08.320 --> 1:45:13.439 And so they're also using this at Panera Course Field, 1:45:13.520 --> 1:45:15.240 which By the way, you can buy Booze with this, 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:17.559 so they can verify that you're over twenty one if 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:21.719 you link your ID, and Amazon says it's secure because 1:45:21.720 --> 1:45:24.439 it does not use raw palm images to identify you. 1:45:24.840 --> 1:45:28.280 It looks at the palm and you're underlying vein structure 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:34.000 to create a unique numerical vector representation called a Palm signature. 1:45:35.040 --> 1:45:37.880 So yeah, a lot of thoughts on that came in 1:45:38.120 --> 1:45:40.800 fast and furious on my Facebook page. 1:45:41.560 --> 1:45:42.120 Let's see. 1:45:42.680 --> 1:45:47.240 Samsung next week is doing their Unpacked event in Seoul, 1:45:47.439 --> 1:45:52.440 South Korea. They said the first Unpacked for the Galaxy 1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:56.800 s was in Las Vegas in March twenty ten. Since then, 1:45:57.240 --> 1:46:01.040 it's been held in major cities around the world, including Barcelona, Berlin, London, 1:46:01.080 --> 1:46:05.640 New York, San Francisco, and now Soul, South Korea. On 1:46:05.760 --> 1:46:11.400 July twenty sixth. It's gonna be exciting. I'm excited for that, 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:14.599 so we will find out what the new foldable phones 1:46:14.640 --> 1:46:16.759 from Samsung are all about. 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:21.599 The z Fold five and the z Flip. Gosh sore. 1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:24.640 They both the five, Z Flip and the z Fold, 1:46:24.920 --> 1:46:28.760 and then AI headshots. This is pretty cool. An app 1:46:28.800 --> 1:46:33.040 called Remedy is making AI headshots. 1:46:33.960 --> 1:46:35.000 The app is available for. 1:46:34.960 --> 1:46:38.960 iOS and Android, and I put this on my website 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:42.120 at Richontech dot tv. If you want to link, you 1:46:42.200 --> 1:46:45.080 download the app. You upload eight to twelve selfies. Bobo, 1:46:45.160 --> 1:46:48.559 you gotta try this. It's I'm not kidding. I Like 1:46:48.600 --> 1:46:51.439 I said to my photographer, your wife is gonna want 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:54.360 to remarry you when she sees these pictures, because I mean, 1:46:54.360 --> 1:46:58.479 Bobo just got married. So yeah, it's incredible. You upload 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:01.200 eight to twelve selfies from different angles, You sit back, 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:04.720 you choose a model, and then it takes about ten 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:07.320 to twenty minutes to generate your pictures and it is 1:47:07.520 --> 1:47:10.519 quite incredible. Now, the trick is they ask you for 1:47:11.200 --> 1:47:13.280 ten dollars a week, so do not pay that if 1:47:13.320 --> 1:47:15.960 you don't want to keep that. Yeah, so you got 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:18.800 to sign up for a free trial, and then what 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:21.280 I recommend is cancel that free trial right away so 1:47:21.320 --> 1:47:24.240 you don't forget, and you get access to this feature 1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:29.679 for three days remedy. Let's see. Sarah says my Alaska 1:47:29.720 --> 1:47:33.960 Airlines mileage account was hacked. They took fifty thousand miles 1:47:33.960 --> 1:47:37.000 and booked two flights. Alaska caught the thief and declined 1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:40.880 his second flight. Now they sent an email with a CASEID. 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:42.879 We had to reply with a picture of my driver's 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:45.880 license and establish a pin. Now we have to use 1:47:45.880 --> 1:47:48.080 that anytime we want to use miles. Fortunately, I will 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:50.760 get my stolen miles back. No idea how they got 1:47:50.760 --> 1:47:55.519 my Alaska Miles account. I thought you should know. Yes, 1:47:55.600 --> 1:47:58.400 I was just talking about this with my wife. Secure 1:47:59.360 --> 1:48:03.400 your leg accounts. Don't use a week password. You don't 1:48:03.439 --> 1:48:07.040 want someone to take your miles. Bertie says, I just 1:48:07.080 --> 1:48:09.760 heard your show. Sorry I'm late, not sure if you 1:48:09.840 --> 1:48:12.920 mentioned it, but I've been a very happy Notability. 1:48:12.320 --> 1:48:14.240 User for years. It's very robust. 1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:18.720 Notability is primarily for handwritten notes. I don't know if 1:48:18.760 --> 1:48:21.679 they do text base, but I'll check it out. James says, 1:48:21.840 --> 1:48:24.759 I am extremely happy with Apple Notes. Yeah, I agree. 1:48:24.960 --> 1:48:27.439 Apple Notes is nearly perfect. I just wish it worked 1:48:27.439 --> 1:48:32.280 on different platforms. And then let's see PJ says for 1:48:32.360 --> 1:48:37.040 note taking. Please take a look at qown notes, q 1:48:38.479 --> 1:48:41.880 qnoes dot org like it much better than the others 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:46.760 you mentioned today. Okay, I'll take a look and wow, 1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:49.960 that's gonna do it. I'm rich Dmiro, thanks so much 1:48:49.960 --> 1:48:51.080 for listening to the show. 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:55.120 Let's see. Well, I don't know where the end of 1:48:55.160 --> 1:48:57.439 the show is anyway, Thanks so much for listening to 1:48:57.439 --> 1:48:58.120 the end of the show. 1:48:58.200 --> 1:49:02.120 Next week we're going to talk Samsung's new phones, very 1:49:02.160 --> 1:49:04.840 exciting stuff. There are so many ways you can spend 1:49:04.880 --> 1:49:07.599 your time. Thanks for hanging out with me. My name 1:49:07.640 --> 1:49:11.800 is rich Demiro rich on tech dot TV. Have a 1:49:11.960 --> 1:49:16.280 fantastic day.