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Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome in to a wet Wednesday

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Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys are safe where you are. Stay safe.

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Speaker 1: A lot of storms coming in here on Halloween evening,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate you being here and listening to the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football Analyston's sideline reporter and

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Speaker 1: geeked about what the Texans have done this week and

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Speaker 1: didn't even play on Sunday. But it's what they've done

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty four to thirty six hours that

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Speaker 1: has got me excited. It's got a lot of you excited,

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Speaker 1: and we got plenty to do on the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: We have got Andre Ware coming up. We have got

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Speaker 1: Russell Baxter on the show. We're gonna go behind enemy

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Speaker 1: Sidelines with Dpciter this week. It's Andrew Mason, who covers

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go behind the mics, the men behind the

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Speaker 1: Mikes with Dave Logan to play by play voice of

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. But we are gonna kick this show

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Speaker 1: off with a very special hot read Hot Reads brought

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Speaker 1: or more on Carr Surance. It's our exclusive interview with

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Speaker 1: general manager Brian Gaine. We had an opportunity today to

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Speaker 1: talk about Demry's Thomas, to talk about the process of

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Speaker 1: the deal, how things went down, and we caught up

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Speaker 1: with Briant earlier today. Great stuff here from the general

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Speaker 1: manager of your Houston, Texas, Brian Gaine, joining us in

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Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio studio. Congratulations on the deal. Take

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Speaker 1: us through a little bit of it what you can't

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Speaker 1: share with us. How long did it take? How long

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Speaker 1: was it in the making? Well, thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me number one during the your approach to the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: You're working the phone's contingency planning, finding out who may

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Speaker 1: be available at all positions, not just a wide receiver position.

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Speaker 1: I think the circumstance for us was we played Thursday

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Speaker 1: night and the injury that happened to Will Fuller, and

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Speaker 1: Will will be greatly missed and very hard to replace.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you can, especially with his

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Speaker 1: skill set. But when it came to our notice that

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Speaker 1: a certain degree of players were available, we continue to

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Speaker 1: drill down and evaluate those players at all positions. But

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Speaker 1: when we lost Will, they put a focus on wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: So over the weekend, you know, we were studying players

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Speaker 1: and seeing it was available. Bill and I will always

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Speaker 1: say what's the internal solution first, and then what's what's there?

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Speaker 1: Is there an external solution? Well, in this case, there

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Speaker 1: was an external solution, but it was about the player

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Speaker 1: acquisition process and you had to work out a deal.

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Speaker 1: So Damaris Thomas was a player that we studied, we evaluated,

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Speaker 1: we thought could help the team, and dealing with Denver,

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Speaker 1: try to work out fair compensation that made sense for

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Speaker 1: both parties. We think he's going to be a very

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Speaker 1: good scheming system fit for us. He's six foot three,

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Speaker 1: he plays outside, he plays inside. That gives us flexibility

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Speaker 1: through sourcing the feedback that I've gotten from numerous bowl

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Speaker 1: in his career, they say that he is as equally

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Speaker 1: a good person, good man, as much as he is

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Speaker 1: a very good football player. Brian one of the things

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Speaker 1: important was that in this acquisition? Critically important because of

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Speaker 1: things coach O'Brien will always ask me when we sit

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll dive into. Here's his heightweight, speed, here's

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Speaker 1: All right, but now tell me about the guy. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about the individual. So all those boxes checked with

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Speaker 1: the season. Brian, how difficult is it to really kind

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Speaker 1: The kind of weighed through all of that to eventually

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Speaker 1: both sides. So we cast a wide net in terms

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Speaker 1: You can't call it better or worse. But it's just

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Speaker 1: And I just think it gives us a degree of

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Speaker 1: The Marius Thomas is a Texan. Passes physical this morning

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Speaker 1: and he is absolutely ready to roll. Even though he's

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Speaker 1: But the big fellow wants the rock. They all want

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Speaker 1: the rock. There's no doubt about that. Now. When the

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean he was talking for sure. Kareem

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Speaker 1: But Josh McDaniels drafted the Marius Thomas and obviously Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniels has a connection to Bill O'Brien. And so when

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Speaker 1: So Dmarrius Thomas is a Texan. Oh my goodness, it's good.

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Speaker 1: So let's hear from his quarterback this Shaun Watson. DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access

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Speaker 1: that is Mark Hell. Hello. Johnny withholding the last name

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, it was tebo. The next year in twenty

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Speaker 1: eleven is tebo for the majority of the year. But

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Speaker 1: how many guys have walk off tds in overtime? Exactly

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Damarius Thomas has got that. But then

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Speaker 1: what happens in twenty twelve, Peyton Manning gets in the

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Speaker 1: building and then the number of skyrocket and it's last

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Speaker 1: year with Trevor Simeon, Yeah, Paxton Lynch and Brock Oswiler.

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Speaker 1: He has eighty three receptions. Yeah, eighty three. That's DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Like in that, when you work with quarterbacks like that,

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Speaker 1: you're still able to produce. That says a lot about

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Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas. It's Andre Johnson. I should have thrown out

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Speaker 1: his name, and I know the build is similar. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna say he's Andre Johnson, but look, you put

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Speaker 1: up incredible those four years with Manning. The averages are

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Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns, one hundred catches in those

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Speaker 1: four years. That's the average per year, ten one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fourteen hundred yards. That's insane production right there. And

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Speaker 1: I know it's Peyton Manning, but that shows you when

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Speaker 1: he's working with a good quarterback, he'll put up amazing numbers.

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Speaker 1: And look he's thirty years old. Yeah, he's on the

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Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty. All of that, He'll still have

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Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities to make plays here. He's not your

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Speaker 1: number one guy. You have DeAndre Hopkins, the best or

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: don't have to have that debate right now, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna help Hopkins, it'll help Thomas. You'll get

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Speaker 1: QT back here eventually, please. And with the tight end

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Speaker 1: group evolving and improving, you know, you have the Jordan's improving,

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Speaker 1: you have Ryan Griffin coming back. Now, that's really gonna

455
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Speaker 1: help Lamar Miller running the ball better. You know, I

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Speaker 1: said it with Brian Gate. Is it's safe to say

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Speaker 1: it's different or better? You know, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: say it's better or worse than having will Fuller. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you'd rather have will Fuller healthy and going the way

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Speaker 1: he was going because the upside is just stratospheric. But

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Speaker 1: you have to marry as Thomas here. It's gonna be different,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be good. Yeah, You're gonna make plays, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, no, no, no no. A lot people in Denver

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Speaker 1: saying Oh, he's got the drops and he's this. And

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody say something about a drop pass he

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Speaker 1: had in Kansas City, and I went back and he

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Speaker 1: kind of pointed to when that play was and went

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Speaker 1: back and watch that play and it was like the

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Speaker 1: balls thrown behind him. I was like, the only person

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Speaker 1: in the earth that makes that catch running a slant

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Speaker 1: route full speed in a ball throm behind. That's probably Hopps,

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Speaker 1: that's Hopkins. Hopkins is maybe the only one that can

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Speaker 1: stick a left paw back there and make that catch.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with the Marris Thomas, He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do that. He doesn't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: The ball is gonna be put on him where he

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Speaker 1: can make a catch and do something. And then when

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Speaker 1: you started going through all that, that got me thinking

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Speaker 1: Hop's pretty tough to tackle once he gets the ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands. Yeah, then you got two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty pounds to Marries Thomas. You got two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five pounds Jordan Thomas, you got Aitkins is two

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Speaker 1: fifty two fifty five. You've got a big crew of

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Speaker 1: guys that could catch the football and do something with

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Speaker 1: it after the catch. They're gonna make it very difficult

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Speaker 1: for secondaries and now, and of course Ryan Griffin is

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five pounds, So you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of big dude that are gonna catch a football,

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Speaker 1: can catch a lot of ways. And with that, you

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Speaker 1: got a lot of personnel changes. Now when QT comes

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Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden, you've been tackling all

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Speaker 1: these big guys embracing for that, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden he catches it and he's like and he's

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Speaker 1: just shaking you or running by you, not for the

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Speaker 1: sake of hurting the team or not risking hurting the

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Speaker 1: team at all. But Bill O'Brien this week has to

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get to Marus Thomas a

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Speaker 1: touchdown in Denver. Oh man, I mean, you gotta get

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Speaker 1: on the TD mile high. You gotta do it, you

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Speaker 1: got you gotta do it. And how how will the

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Speaker 1: fans react then that dynamic of this, I can't let

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Speaker 1: that go that he's going back there and that look,

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Speaker 1: teams do do become sellers at some point the NFL

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. This is part of the larger discussion of

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Speaker 1: this thing needs to be moved back a couple more weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember when it was like September October, it

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Speaker 1: was so early, nobody did anything, and they moved it

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Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden, I mean, this trade

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Speaker 1: deadline is as exciting as obviously the Texans are involved,

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Speaker 1: but just seeing where all the different names were being

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Speaker 1: bandied about and teams were just seeing fans saying, well,

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Speaker 1: I hope this team gets drilled. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of fans were talking about Tampa Bay, want Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: to just get crished Jackson Jackson would become available yea,

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Speaker 1: And it just made it really really interesting from that perspective.

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Speaker 1: But you move it back another week or two, you've

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Speaker 1: got something going on, because most it already became trade

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Speaker 1: Tuesday in the NFL. Everybody on pins and needles, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? And fan bases, I rate some happy the

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Speaker 1: Redskins and Packers with haha, Clinton Dix and how about this.

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Speaker 1: Drew brought it up last night or maybe it was

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Speaker 1: deep on the show about how the Texans are facing

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Speaker 1: these teams that that fortified themselves, you know, with Clinton

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Speaker 1: Dix going to the Washington Redskins and the Eagles making

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Speaker 1: their acquisitions gold so you're gonna see him, and you

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Speaker 1: know you have the Maarius Thomas you're gonna be playing,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it kind of spices things up down

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Speaker 1: to stretch. If it were a couple of weeks later,

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Speaker 1: you'd have more bona fide sellers, because even the Broncos

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Speaker 1: at three and five. Look, if the division were shaping

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Speaker 1: out differently, if you didn't have Kansas City. Let's say

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Speaker 1: Kansas City at five wins and that was the top

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Speaker 1: number in the division. You're two games back. Are you

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Speaker 1: a seller? You might not be a seller at that point.

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Speaker 1: You might say, well, let's hang around and hang in there.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like us. It's let's say we win

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Speaker 1: the next two games. We're seven and three and you're

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Speaker 1: the Titans, and you lose the next couple. Now you're

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Speaker 1: a seller. Baby, Now you're a seller at least for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year. I don't think the league

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Speaker 1: ever wanted that, but I think it's good. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. If you're out of it like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're not mathematically out of it yet,

544
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Speaker 1: but if you're three and seven after ten games, come on, like,

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Speaker 1: who we kidding? I know it's possible and all that.

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Speaker 1: But if you're in that state, well, what's the incentive

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Speaker 1: for your fan base? You know, you give them more

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Speaker 1: instetive by saying, look, we're gonna trade a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys here. I know that you're gonna miss them, but

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Speaker 1: we're getting assets in return. And you're kind of hitting

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Speaker 1: the reset button. You're at least pushing on it a

552
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Speaker 1: little bit early. You're like, we're resetting here. So let's

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like playing the young quarterback down the

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Speaker 1: stretch like San Francisco. Well that was different, that was

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Speaker 1: an acquisition with Garoppolo. But it's kind of like playing

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback down to stretch where you get a

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Speaker 1: little hope because you see a few wins. So maybe

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Speaker 1: the league should look into something like that. But I

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Speaker 1: think as far as this deal for the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: this is about the final eight games of the year.

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Speaker 1: Take it from there. With the offseason, don't even talk

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Speaker 1: to me about it until we get there, because I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited about what this team can do down to

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Speaker 1: stretch here, no doubt. What do you think our buddy

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Speaker 1: Andre Ware thinks about this? I bet he likes it.

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Speaker 1: I bet he does. We're gonna find out next right

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Speaker 1: What's eighty eight minus one? Quick? Good? Eighty seven? That's right.

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Speaker 1: Eighty seven is the number that Demarrius Thomas will wear

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't know about next year and beyond,

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Speaker 1: but at least for this year he's wearing eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: He's won eighty eighties entire career. He won number eight

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Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. We couldn't get eighty eight here because

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Speaker 1: as Jordan Naka's number, and because Jordan has won a

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Speaker 1: number thirty percent or more of the season, he cannot

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Speaker 1: go to a different number. Follow that, yeah, exactly, So

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Speaker 1: Damarius will wear eighty seven. George Nakins will be eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: And looking forward to seeing what they all do on

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Speaker 1: Sunday against the Denver Broncos. On Sunday, three men will

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Speaker 1: bring you the radio broadcast me from the sidelines, Mark

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Speaker 1: vandamers are played by play Voice and our color analysts.

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Speaker 1: From day one has been our good friend Andrea. Where

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Speaker 1: Mark caught up with Andrea got his thoughts about Demerius

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Speaker 1: and the Texans going forward. Drey, let's start off with

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Speaker 1: the trade. What do you think of Damarrius Thomas becoming

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Speaker 1: a Houston Texan. Well, I'm glad he's on our side now,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He's a big receiver, physical receiver

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Speaker 1: that can certainly make plays down the field. What I

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Speaker 1: like to him, liking to him or about him is

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Speaker 1: that you know he can catch it and break tackles

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Speaker 1: because he's so physically imposing that he's going to do that.

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Speaker 1: So it's another weapon opposite DeAndre Hopkins that you know,

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Speaker 1: teams with just the name itself will will shy away

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Speaker 1: from rolling coverage just to Deandre's side and know that

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Speaker 1: they have to deal with Demarius. Now. The thing with

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Speaker 1: him is how fast can he get caught up on

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Speaker 1: the system because you're losing a guy that's been in

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Speaker 1: the system for now three years as opposed to someone

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Speaker 1: coming in and trying to contribute right away in a

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Speaker 1: very limited capacity, so to speak. So that that's really

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Speaker 1: the number one question, Marcus. How much of the offense

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Speaker 1: he can retain and then go out on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: be effective against his former team. Yeah. I guess we

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Speaker 1: won't know it until we see it. But what about

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Speaker 1: that kind of crash dre because I guess they could

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Speaker 1: give him a package of plays or something, but there

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Speaker 1: are certain things that only happen in the heat of battle,

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Speaker 1: so that everyone's going to have to sort of help

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Speaker 1: him along, right, Yeah, and it really depends. I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be just a package this week against the Broncos

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Speaker 1: and not try to give him too much where there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of different formations and such. They may still

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Speaker 1: use some of the younger guys to get kind of complicated,

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Speaker 1: I would say, offensively and give the window dressing that

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Speaker 1: you want to try to confuse a defense. But when

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Speaker 1: he's in there, you know you can. You can almost

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Speaker 1: get away with telling him what to do in the

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Speaker 1: huddle when he's in as well. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Texans are going to go tempo based on just being

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Speaker 1: going through a couple of practices and things that that

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Speaker 1: sort of really understanding it. But when he's in the huddle,

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Speaker 1: essentially you could tell him what route to run or

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Speaker 1: you know, have a receiver tell him where to line

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Speaker 1: up and what route to run and still get something

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Speaker 1: out of him. So it's a it's tough because from

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Speaker 1: a terminology standpoint, um, trying to forget an offense that

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Speaker 1: you've been a part of for a very very long

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Speaker 1: period of time and then, you know, for nine years,

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Speaker 1: and then digest another in just a couple of days

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Speaker 1: is uh. You know, that's tough to do. And I

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Speaker 1: don't expect the fans to know if you're expected a

639
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: lot out of Damarius this week, don't because that's that's

640
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: a tall order in a very short period of time.

641
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: What about playing with Deshaun Watson though, the ability to

642
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: scramble and extend place, that's got to be an enjoyable

643
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: thing for Damarius Thomas. Certainly case Keenum has some of that.

644
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: He put up ungodly numbers with Peyton Manning, who's not

645
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: that so now having this kind of quarterback wide receiver

646
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: connection in Thomas's life has to be a lot of fun.

647
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: And also for Watson to have that big target, Yeah,

648
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: especially at this stage in his career where it makes

649
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: all the difference to you know, have a guy that

650
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: can you can really rely on, depend on that every

651
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: play is a live place. I just got to keep

652
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: myself live no matter what. And and for Dashaun, it's

653
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: a big bodied receiver that it presents a big target

654
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: for him that has a lot of experience, that can

655
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: break tackles and and can't hit big plays because of

656
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: his ability to come out of tackles. So I think

657
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: it's a win win for both. You know, you start

658
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: looking around the free agency market and there aren't a

659
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: whole lot of people giving away this caliber of receiver

660
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: at this point in the season. So I think the Texas,

661
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: the shun and the offense were lucky to get him

662
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: when Will Fuller went down with that injury. They're lucky

663
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: that they were able to pay what they paid to

664
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: get this caliber a player. What are you seeing in

665
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: case Keenum right now had the great year in Minnesota

666
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: last year this year even in the TD to interception ratio,

667
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: he's also got some fumble issues, but again not exactly

668
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: the greatest supporting cast. What do you make of it

669
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: so far? Well, it's not bad. You could just tell

670
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: there's a I'm talking about the supporting cast. It's not

671
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: that bad. It's just they're young. There's some youth there

672
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: that they're trying to get to in Courtland Sutton now

673
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: going to step up and he'll be the starter opposite

674
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, and Royce Freeman's a young back, Philip Lindsay

675
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: is a young back. Even Devontae Booker, who's the most

676
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: more experienced player in the backfields, only in his third year.

677
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of youth around case, where in

678
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Minnesota there was you know, a lot of veteran players

679
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: that he could just kind of step in and orchestrate

680
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: things from from that position. So when you look at it,

681
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: you could tell there's a youth movement. I think there's

682
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: three and four year guys on the offensive line, with

683
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: the left tackle being only in his second year. And

684
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: I think the most experienced player is is veld Here

685
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: at right tackle at at nine years in the league,

686
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: and they got got him in through a trade, so

687
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: to speak. But he's done what he does. He manages

688
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: a game, He keeps some end games and he completes

689
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: a high percentage of passes, and that's what you know

690
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: you have to You want that from your quarterback. You

691
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: don't want a guy that's going to go lose games

692
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: for you. Case is going to keep you in games

693
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: and occasionally he'll beat you. Well. Denver does give up

694
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: some yards on the ground, Andrea and of course they

695
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: have those great pass rushers. But you know what's coming here.

696
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's gonna try to run the ball with Lamar

697
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Miller and Alfred Blue because they've been doing it well

698
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. And when you look at

699
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: the numbers, that's got to be a huge part of

700
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: the game plan this weekend. Yeah, it has to be.

701
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: It's right in line with the last couple of weeks

702
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: of playing Jacksonville and then Miami. The yardage given up

703
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: is right around the same. It's over one hundred. It's

704
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: somewhere around one hundred thirty one hundred thirty five yards

705
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: a game on the ground. So you get a new

706
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: receiver in. You want to simplify things. Something that you've

707
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: been doing very very well as an offense has been

708
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: running the football and taking care of it on top

709
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: of that, so I would certainly expect the Texans to

710
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: come in and run the football quite a bit. You know,

711
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: you get pass rushers. The thing they want to do

712
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: is get up the field. They're a little bit easier

713
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: to block because they want to be aggressive. You when

714
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: you're able to run the football, especially early in the game, now,

715
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it sort of negates the pass

716
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: rush because you have to play the run. That's when

717
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: play action kind of kicks in. Or you can just

718
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: drop back and throw it because there the thread of

719
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: the run is there. And that's I think is the

720
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: magical thing about the last five weeks in a row

721
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: is that they've been able to run the football collectively

722
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: and it's opened up some other things with the offense.

723
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Or to speak, well, with so many young players on

724
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: this team, Andrea, it's hard to tell how good they

725
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: really are. You know, there is an upside here. I

726
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: wrote this about the Texans at the midway point five

727
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: and three, the division being what it is at this moment,

728
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: this is as exciting an opportunity as maybe they've ever had. Now.

729
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I know, they were seven and one at the halfway

730
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: point in twenty twelve. We all remember how that ended.

731
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: But what do you think of this team moving forward?

732
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: What do they need to do? What are your expectations.

733
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I think just continue to do what they're doing, if

734
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: they can continue to get upgraded offensive line, play the

735
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: remainder of the season based on the schedule that's in

736
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: front of them. You know, I don't know that I

737
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: remember a year where the schedule just on paper. I

738
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: know you got to go out and play the games,

739
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: but just on paper. With it being this manageable of

740
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: a schedule, so to speak, and I'm talking in seventeen years,

741
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that we've seen this scene it like this,

742
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: So manage it that way. Stay consistent on offense, don't

743
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: turn the football over, especially giving up the you know,

744
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: short field and easy scores. And then the defense continue

745
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: to play like it's Clay with Clowney if he's able

746
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: to stay health and JJ Watt the same things. But Nargick, McKinney,

747
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Zach Hunningham that played some outstanding football. And then you

748
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: move to the secondary. I think Tyron Matthew has been outstairs,

749
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: has been a great offseason signing along with Kareem Jackson,

750
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: who just might be the MVP in my mind to

751
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: this point in the season. So you're getting some pretty

752
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: good football being played on that side. They'll be without

753
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph and against this team and big receivers, you're

754
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: certainly going to miss him. Who knows he might play.

755
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know the health right now, but I would

756
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: say it's it's not likely that he would come back

757
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: this quickly. If it is, it'll be maybe in a

758
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: limited role, but he'll be missed. But the other guys,

759
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the way they've approached it, his next man up, and

760
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: they've done a heck of a job. So I would

761
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: say more of the same as they get through the

762
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: schedule going, you know, as you work towards the end

763
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: of it. In the end of the season. Well, we

764
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: talked about this on Monday, how the biggest competition in

765
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: the AFC South might be from a team that a

766
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of people left for dead, and that would be

767
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: the Cults. And since it's Halloween week, I'm going to

768
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: say that this is like a horror movie to me,

769
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: that the Cults could possibly resurrect themselves, bring themselves back

770
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: from the dead, and compete with the Texans for the division.

771
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: But they appear to be doing it. And Andrew Luck

772
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest reason why. Yeah, Andrew Luck, he's healthy.

773
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: The Colts as a whole are getting healthier. You know,

774
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: when we went to Indianapolis, they had a ton of

775
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: guys out and then they had a game against I

776
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: want to say New England where it seemed like the

777
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, half the roster was on was out that game.

778
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: And they're signing guys and you know, mixing and piecing

779
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: the roster together to go play. And they competed and

780
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: competed well. And now a lot of those guys are

781
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: back and they're healthy. And t Y Hilden is a

782
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: big part of their offense. Hebrams a big part of

783
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the offense. The tight ends. Jack Doyle is starting to

784
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: get himself going along with an a healthier offensive line.

785
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: They're two games back. That's it. And had Frank Wright

786
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: chosen to take the tie, you don't look at it

787
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: at that point in time, and everybody's you know, counting

788
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: their chests. You go for it and you take you know,

789
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, you throw the dice and roll the dice

790
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and see what comes up. And they end up losing

791
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: a game. But I guarantee you're looking at the end

792
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: of the season. He'll go back and take that tie

793
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: because it puts them one game back of the Texans

794
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: in the Divisional League at this point in the season.

795
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: So as it gets later, that tide looks a whole

796
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: lot more attractive than the loss does, and it puts

797
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: a lot more pressure on you with a loss being

798
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: on the record. But with all that being said, they're

799
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: getting healthy, they're getting great offensive play as well as

800
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: their defense. They're getting stops and turnovers. And I think

801
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: before it's all said and done, we're going to hear

802
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: from the coast before we hear from Tennessee and Jacksonville.

803
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: And that's just saying something considering where things were a

804
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Drey, what do you have going out

805
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: of the college circuit this weekend? I got a late

806
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: one SAT. Today night Boise State plan hosts the BYU,

807
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: who I got a chance to see last week. They've

808
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: got a good young quarterback in Zach Wilson at BYU

809
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: that a lot of people around the country, true freshman

810
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: that a lot of people around the country don't know him,

811
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: but he has a sensational talent. Traveling to Boise and

812
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: one of the best to get it done at quarterback

813
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: in the Mountain West for a long time as Brett

814
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Rippon and and so it this sets up to be

815
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: a pretty good, uh good game did senior quarterback taking

816
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: on a true freshman. And these games between these two

817
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: schools are always always excited. Wait, have you done a

818
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: game with the Blue field before? I have? I've done

819
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: several and I've done a bowl game there where my

820
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: board actually flew out the window and I had to

821
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: do the entire game without my board. But luckily, when

822
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: when you're hand right, you remember it, and so it

823
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a problem. But I've been there several times. I

824
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: was just sitting this afternoon trying to figure out where

825
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I was going to eat because it's been a few

826
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: years actually since I've been there. So I'll get that,

827
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: I'll get that, get that taken care of, and it'll

828
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: be a quick trip over to Denver. After your board

829
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: flying out the window. I mean, we can laugh about

830
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: it now, I guess, but that must have been a

831
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: moment I thought somebody actually is playing a trick on me,

832
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: And all the way up until halftime, I was waiting

833
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: on him to give it back. And because we had

834
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: just had the conversation about being able to do a

835
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: game without the board, and behold, it flies out the

836
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: window during a rehearsal. It's one of those things you

837
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: live and learn, and it taught me a big lesson

838
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: in this business. Wait, I bring a rock. That's the lesson.

839
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Bring a rock with you, all right, Dre, all right,

840
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: we'll see a Sunday. Be safe, all right, buddy, I'll

841
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: talk to you. Then there is our good friend Andre

842
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Ware coming up. It's another a good friend of ours,

843
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Russell Baxter. It's gonna join us. So we're gonna go

844
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: round the NFL with him, get his first impression on

845
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: the Demerius Thomas Tray to Houston and it's the most

846
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: disappointing team in the NFL. And twenty eighteen through half

847
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: the season, hint resides in the AFC South. We'll do

848
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: that next with our buddy Russell. Backs to right here

849
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: in Texans Access. Welcome back to Texas All Access from

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: the Monday Texans Radio studio, joined now by my good friend.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at backs Bax Football Guru,

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Speaker 1: which I would recommend you can read him at Fanside

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Speaker 1: NFL spin Zone he is our good friend. Russell backs

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Speaker 1: to Russell, how are you doing, my man? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the line, Sarah, how are you well? It is Halloween

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Speaker 1: and we got all kinds of storms rolling through Houston,

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Speaker 1: so I would imagine the kids that will be trick

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Speaker 1: or treating in my neighborhood are gonna be very, very upset.

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Speaker 1: But the Texans got a little bit of a treat yesterday, Russell,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the trade deadline with the Marius

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Speaker 1: Thomas coming to Houston. And I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in the city of Houston have They've been trying

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Speaker 1: to get as much information on Da Marius Thomas as

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Speaker 1: possible with him joining the Texans, which is gonna be

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Speaker 1: really weird considering we're playing the Broncos on Sunday with

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Speaker 1: no Will Fuller. But now Damarrius Thomas comes in and

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Speaker 1: it's not a one for one acquisition, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Will goes out. Da Marius comes in. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: give you the exact same things. But should people be

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Speaker 1: excited about acquiring a receiver of Da Marius thomas stature

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Speaker 1: right here in Houston? Russell? Yeah, absolutely, I mean his

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Speaker 1: guy's a former pro bowler, he's not putting up the

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Speaker 1: touchdown numbers that he has in years and the yardage numbers,

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Speaker 1: but he's also playing, you know, with a much different

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Speaker 1: set of quarterback over the last couple of years. And

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Speaker 1: he's played with numerous quarterbacks over the last couple of years. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: his big seasons came with Peyton Man who was pulling

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Speaker 1: the trigger, and to a degree, brock os Weiler in

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Speaker 1: the short stint he was there as well. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the faces have changed a lot and so on,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's a different kind of receiver than

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Speaker 1: Will Forward, but more importantly, he's a much different kind

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Speaker 1: of receiver than DeAndre Hopkins. I think he can compliment

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Speaker 1: him in a big way. He's a big target, He's

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Speaker 1: a guy who can be effective in the red zone

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Speaker 1: and interesting to see how the Texans use him. The

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Speaker 1: fact that they were able to get him for a

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Speaker 1: fourth and I know they got a seventh and returned, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a moot point. The fact that they

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Speaker 1: were able to find someone to offset, not replace, but

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Speaker 1: offset the loss of Fuller, I think it's pretty big news,

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Speaker 1: you know, and listen, this is a team that's moving

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Speaker 1: certainly in the right direction, while you know Tennessee and

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville are moving in the opposite direction. Obviously the team

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Speaker 1: to kind of keep an eye on in the division.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's the Colts who are learning

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Speaker 1: how to protect Andrew Luck and they're learning how to

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Speaker 1: score points again. And that's scary. That is very, very scary.

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Speaker 1: Russell les pertains to the trade deadline, and I could

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Speaker 1: be completely wrong in this, but it felt like it

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Speaker 1: felt like there was much more excitement about the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline then I can really ever remember. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I remember a trade deadline that went quite like

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Speaker 1: this one did. It just felt like there was so

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Speaker 1: much going on, so many teams were involved, there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of players that, oh, wait, that guy's going

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Speaker 1: to get traded. It really felt like that at the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Now there are only probably five six deals,

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Speaker 1: but it just felt like there was much more discussion

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Speaker 1: about it than maybe there had ever been before. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about the way it went down, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think we kind of got teased about what was

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Speaker 1: going to happen this year. Last year, you know, remember

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Speaker 1: among the trades that happened around the deadline last year

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Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo and Marcel Darius. Ye, those were huge names.

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Speaker 1: And you know, in recent years, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline hasn't produced a lot of deals, and

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Speaker 1: I think almost as a springboard for what we saw

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Speaker 1: last year, people came in anticipating more and they got it.

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Speaker 1: And to me it just shows a shift. And what thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the league changed changed the deadline, the mid

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Speaker 1: season deadline couple years ago. They're always tweaking things, and

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Speaker 1: this might eve been another tweak. You know, most of

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Speaker 1: the trades we see in this league now happened even

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Speaker 1: before free agency started, even though technically they can't become

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Speaker 1: official until the new league year begins the fiscal year.

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Speaker 1: But I think, again, jumping off what we saw last year, what,

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Speaker 1: like I said, the Garoppolo deal, Marcel Darius, you know

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Speaker 1: a few other deals as well, I think there was

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Speaker 1: more of an anticipation and almost a way of how

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Speaker 1: teams were going to do business these last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I mean, besides what we saw yesterday. Obviously Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: and the Giants unloading Eli Apple and Damon Harrison. Russell

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Speaker 1: Baxter joined US at Backs BAX Football guru, Russell, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned a second ago about the Cults in what they

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Speaker 1: have done in back to back weeks against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders have put up a ton of points

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Speaker 1: and did a really good job defensively against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: gave up a few to Oakland, and they're sort of

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Speaker 1: in this building. They're sort of the team that everybody's

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Speaker 1: sort of looking at. But the one that everybody had

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Speaker 1: penciled in to repeat what they did last year was Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Do you think, Russell, in your opinion, it is as

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Speaker 1: simple as Blake Bortles just hasn't gotten it done, and

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Speaker 1: that's why the Jaguars are three and five right now

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Speaker 1: going into their bye week. Or do you think there's

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Speaker 1: something else there? No, well, no, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: that simple because this was Let's keep in mind what

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars were last year on defense, and you and

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this, okay, and the similarity is almost scary.

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Speaker 1: I quoted my good friend Tom Jackson, who in many

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Speaker 1: years we watched football together always used to remind me

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Speaker 1: there's no defense is a great defense if you can't

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Speaker 1: stop their run. Yep. Okay, last year, the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 1: were second overall in yards allowed, first against the path,

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Speaker 1: twenty first against the run. The mystery of how they lost,

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Speaker 1: how they beat Pittsburgh was the fact that how come

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh didn't run Lady on Devil a little more? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind. Second overall, then we're

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Speaker 1: going by yards, but still second overall, first against the past,

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Speaker 1: twenty first against the run. I'm looking at the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars rankings this year. Second overall, first against the bass,

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth against the run. See, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: sack the quarterback, you've got to make sure the quarterback

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Speaker 1: actually has the football. Yeah, A good point, right, and

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Speaker 1: we see that Listen. This is the time that we

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Speaker 1: see this with other teams as well. The Rams last

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Speaker 1: year were a team that got a lot of sacks

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Speaker 1: with forty eight sacks. Okay, Jacksonville at fifty five, forty

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Speaker 1: eight sacks by the Rams last year, a lot of takeaways.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Rams were against the run last year, John, Well,

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Speaker 1: they were eight. Yeah, they were not good. They were

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Speaker 1: not good, right, because that agree is that aggressiveness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've got to learn to rain it in every once

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Speaker 1: a while, if you got to play this. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying they were running wild all over the field, but

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Speaker 1: at Lanta exposed their defense in the playoff game last

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Speaker 1: year by running right at them, which is why to me,

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Speaker 1: that's the bigger reasons why they went out and got

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Speaker 1: the Dominican sue. Because the Dominckin sue is a guy

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Speaker 1: who can stuff to run. That's not knock on Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's a freaking nature okay, but they needed some

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Speaker 1: other help there as well in their linebacking corps gets

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Speaker 1: as much anyway. To go back to Jacksonville though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think there is a residual effect to

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Speaker 1: a degree of what happened last year in the fourth

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Speaker 1: core of the AMC Championship Game. That you have your

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Speaker 1: share of players. And this is without me talking to them.

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Speaker 1: It's like Katy Perry saying the one that got away. Yep, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I said that before the year, and I thought that

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Speaker 1: was going to be the case. You we saught a

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Speaker 1: little bit with Atlanta last year. You know, coming off

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Speaker 1: a year in which they should have won that Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl against the New England Patriots. They let that one

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Speaker 1: slip and you could sort of see how it impacted them,

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Speaker 1: and then they had some personnel losses. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's the one other thing too about Jacksonville, Russell is

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville last year, especially defensively, stayed healthy all year long.

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Speaker 1: All year long. They lost Telvin Smith, I think for

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Speaker 1: a couple of games due to concussion, and that was it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else stayed completely healthiest, at least on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and offensively they stayed pretty healthy other

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Speaker 1: than they lost Alan Robinson on the first play of

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Speaker 1: the year against US, and they lost Fournette for a

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Speaker 1: couple of games. But other than that, they didn't really

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Speaker 1: lose anybody's offensive side. And this year they've been ravaged

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Speaker 1: by injuries, which has been obviously a story for Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Tennessee had a bye, Russell,

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Speaker 1: But that team sits three and four after going for

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Speaker 1: two against the Chargers in London, not making it, and

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Speaker 1: they end up they could have been four and three

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Speaker 1: and would have been a half game behind the Texans

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Speaker 1: right now, and now they're a game and a half

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Speaker 1: even though they beat the Texans. Tennessee's sort of a mystery, Russell.

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Speaker 1: I still don't know about Marcus Mariota. I'm not off

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Speaker 1: in that defense. I know it's good, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's great. I just don't know what to make

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Speaker 1: a Tennessee right now. What do you make of the

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Speaker 1: Titans at this point? Well, you know, I guess I

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Speaker 1: gotta have fun with a punt about Remember the Titans,

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Speaker 1: but what they've forgotten is how to play offense. Last

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Speaker 1: week the loss too, well, I should say the last

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Speaker 1: time they took the field, the loss of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: was the first time in three games they scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're very caught up in the Baltimore loss,

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Speaker 1: in which they got shut out and gave up eleven sacks.

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Speaker 1: Remember the week before they settled for four field goals. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: technically it is a play from scrimmage. Okay, so think

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Speaker 1: about this for a second. In seven games this year,

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans longest play from scrimmage is the fake

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Speaker 1: punt for a touchdown. Oh that came against us? Yeah, John,

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. A safety to safety touchdown pass is

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Speaker 1: the longest play from scrimmage for the Tennessee Titans. Holy smokes,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, So you think about

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Speaker 1: their offensive issue. We talked about other teams that like

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's offense has been dreadful, Arizona's offense has been dreadful.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tennessee did you know did what they did

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Speaker 1: early in the season with deef. I mean, remember they

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Speaker 1: beat Jacksonville ninety six. Yeah, they gambled a few times

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Speaker 1: in overtime and beat the Eagles. That was the funny

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Speaker 1: thing about the Rabel decision against the Chargers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was all well and good when it

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Speaker 1: paid off against Philadelphia and overtime. Ye, you know that

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Speaker 1: that's obviously the way Mike Rabel wants to coach, So

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Speaker 1: I get all that and so on, But I thought

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Speaker 1: it also spoke of the fact that this is a

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Speaker 1: team that struggled to move the football and produced point Okay,

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Speaker 1: they went, they've gone what thirty one points in would

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Speaker 1: be thirty one points in a total of thirteen twelve

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Speaker 1: quarters the last giving and only two offensive touchdown. So

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Speaker 1: I thought that's more spoke more of of Rabel's decision. Then,

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Speaker 1: was you know, almost kind of like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we're going to get a chance to

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Speaker 1: do this in overtime. That's a great point kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't say stealing a win, but in some sense

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Speaker 1: stealing a win because the Chargers, to me, as I

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Speaker 1: watched that game, I thought were clearly better than the Titans,

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Speaker 1: and then you look up and go, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's they're going to score and have a chance to tye.

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00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: This is going overtime, of course, and he makes the

1061
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: two point decision to go for the win. Right there's

1062
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: I gave him credit. Bar and Russell abby the first

1063
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: to tell you I appreciated against the Eagles, I appreciated

1064
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: the thought against the Chargers, they just didn't get it done.

1065
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: But it's been an interesting AFC South. There's no question

1066
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: about that. The Texans are a top to division at

1067
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: five and three, and Russell we take on the Broncos

1068
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and obviously the Mary Thomas is now a Texan,

1069
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: so they've traded him, which probably means more for Courtland

1070
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: Sutton and Dave Sean Hamilton and the Broncos won the

1071
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: first two out of the gates, then they won one

1072
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: out of their last six. I'm not sure which Bronco

1073
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: team shows up in Denver, they've lost to good teams.

1074
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not completely sure if we're a good team or

1075
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: considered one at this point at five and three, we're

1076
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: not even favored in this one, even though we've got

1077
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: plus two on the win column. What do you think

1078
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: of the Denver team that we're going to be facing

1079
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday now without Damaris Thomas. Well, I'll go back

1080
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: to the last couple of years of Denver Broncoes. For

1081
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: many years pre Peyton mann I'm sorry, with Peyton Manning.

1082
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: Without Peyton Manning have had a habit of getting off

1083
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: the great starts. Okay, yea, But let's look now at

1084
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: the last three years. They were four and o. The

1085
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: year after they won the Super Bowl, Manning was gone.

1086
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I understand that there were four and o and then

1087
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: lost seven in their last twelve games, went nine and seven.

1088
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: Last year they were two and oh and three and one,

1089
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: finished five and eleven, John two and oh. This year

1090
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: three and five, so great out of the gate, But

1091
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Gayton's closed a lot for them, and you can understand

1092
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: why Bans Joseph has been under a lot of heat

1093
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: and so on. And you know, I don't want to

1094
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should get fooled about what they

1095
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: saw against Arizona on that Thursday night. I thought that

1096
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: had much more to do with the inability to block anybody.

1097
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, Arizona has won two games this year, both

1098
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: against the Niners, So I think Arizona is they're in

1099
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: full rebuilding mode. Denver's defense isn't what it was a

1100
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and they're trying to recapture that

1101
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: with Bradley Chubb and teaming him with Von Miller. But

1102
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: they're not as good as they were on the back end,

1103
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: and they have a quarterback who I believe is thrown

1104
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: at least one interception in every game they've played this year.

1105
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that, Russell. This season twenty eighteen,

1106
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: we're only halfway through. But if you were to say

1107
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: this is my biggest surprise, positive surprise, and this is

1108
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: my biggest disappointment, what teams would you put in those categories?

1109
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: This team is my biggest most pleasant surprise, and this

1110
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: one is I think my biggest disappointment. Well, you know,

1111
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: I was one of those people who thought Chicago was

1112
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: going to be intriguing, so I can't really say them.

1113
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you one who I think is the biggest

1114
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: surprise right now, and it's how the Seattle Seahawks have

1115
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: picked themselves off the mat after being O and two.

1116
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,479
Speaker 1: They look like a different football team, and a lot

1117
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: of it has to do with how their offensive line

1118
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: has come together. Remember they made changes that offensive and

1119
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator this offseason, but they've also changed the offensive line.

1120
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Coach Mike Salari's there now, and you've seen the way

1121
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: they have run the ball for four or five weeks now,

1122
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, I go back to the only game they've

1123
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: lost in the last five games was the game at

1124
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: the Coliseum to the Rams. They put a fuck ninety

1125
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: on the ground against Phillips the defense, so their offensive

1126
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: line has played better. They're very very much in the

1127
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: playoff picture right now. As far as disappointments, I think

1128
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: I have to go Jacksonville. I didn't have Jacksonville winning

1129
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: the division. I had them still as a wild card team.

1130
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: But the way they have kind of mentally crumbled to

1131
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: a degree, I think it's really really surprising, and and

1132
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: it's been both sides of the football. It just hasn't

1133
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: been Blake Mortals turning over the football so on you know,

1134
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: you give up forty points in the game. I can't

1135
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: hang that on a quarterback. Okay, they couldn't get vital

1136
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: stops last week. I think about this. They got two

1137
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: takeaways from Carson Wentzon the first quarter Lives week and

1138
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: still couldn't win the game. They dropped the pass in

1139
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: the end zone, they missed a fourth and one late. Yeah,

1140
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: they had everything, And don't get me wrong, I was

1141
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: actually hoping that was going to happen and the Eagles

1142
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: would get a win, and it did come to fruition.

1143
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: But I am I'm glad that Jacksonville is you're disappointing

1144
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: team because I think you're right, and I don't think

1145
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of people that would disagree with

1146
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: you at that point, Russell. With everything that they got

1147
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: going on at Backs football Guru, at Bax football Guru,

1148
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: NFL Spin's own fans sided Mando's at all and that's

1149
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: why we have him every single Wednesday. Russell, You're absolutely best.

1150
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: It was good to catch up with you again, my friend.

1151
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely start talking next week. Coming up next, Let's go

1152
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: behind enemy sidelines with Deep City right here on Texans

1153
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: All Access. It's time to go behind enemy sidelines with

1154
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: our good friend Deep City this week from the Broncos

1155
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: side of the life, if you will, it is Andrew Mason,

1156
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: who covers the Broncos for Denver Broncos dot Com for

1157
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: Broncos Radio, and he gives us the other side all

1158
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: that's gone on with trade deadline and everything that's taken place.

1159
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: DP had a chance to discuss that with Andrew Mason.

1160
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Demerius Thomas trade. Obviously that's the

1161
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: top of the news for Sunday's matchup. What's the reaction

1162
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: in Denver surrounding the trade? Is it surprise? Is it?

1163
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Is it to be expected? You know? What are people

1164
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: saying in Denver about this? Well? I think it was

1165
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: to be expected. The rumors have been swirling for about

1166
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: a week or so now, maybe even a little bit

1167
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: more than that. And Damarius Thomas himself on Sunday in

1168
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: the locker room after the loss at Kansas City said

1169
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: he figured it was fifty fifty that he was going

1170
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: to be traded. And when you put something like that

1171
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: out there out when you're a player, you've kind of

1172
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: got an indication of how things are going to go.

1173
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: And everyone could see the writing on the wall. He

1174
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: had a seventeen million dollar cap number for next year

1175
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: for the Broncos if they had kept him under that contract.

1176
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, their second round pick, is progressing ahead of schedule.

1177
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: He's making plays. He looks like he can be a

1178
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: starter for a long time for the Broncos. Dave Shawn Hamilton,

1179
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: who's currently hurt right now with a knee injury. He's

1180
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick this year. They like an awful

1181
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: lot that they got a chance to work with down

1182
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, got a glimpse of him, picked them,

1183
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: and he's continued to show progress throughout training camp and

1184
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: they want to get him on the field more. Kind

1185
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: of the chain reaction is that day Shawn Hamilton will

1186
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: probably see more time over the rest of the season,

1187
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: see or a greater increase in playing time over the

1188
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: rest of the season than even Courtland Sutton. So they

1189
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: liked these young receivers. Something was going to happen with

1190
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: the Marius Thomas in the off season anyway, whether it

1191
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: was a restructure or an outright release. So putting all

1192
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: the pieces together, no one's really that shocked. It's sad

1193
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: for the Broncos to lose the Marius Thomas because he's

1194
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: their second all time leading receiver. He'll be in there

1195
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: and bring a fame at some point, a big part

1196
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: of some great seasons for them. But this is the

1197
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of track you see in baseball or football, or

1198
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: baseball or the NBA. Part of me that you know

1199
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 1: a guy, you've got a veteran player, a young one

1200
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: nipping at his heels, and you make the deal and

1201
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: you move on. You know, certainly a lot of big

1202
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: highlights from his career, prolific career in Denver, and there's

1203
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: a banner of him on the side of Mile High

1204
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to change it into

1205
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: sort of a thank you for everything that he's done

1206
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: for the Broncos and for the community. What about for you,

1207
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: what's been your favorite moment of his that you covered? Well,

1208
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: the moment on the field, you'd have to go back

1209
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: to the twenty eleven postseason. January of twenty twelve, they're

1210
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: playing against Pittsburgh and first play of overtime, Tim Tebow

1211
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: goes back to throw hits Thomas in stride and Thomas

1212
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: takes off for an eighty yard touchdown. First play of

1213
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: overtime boom game over, Broncos pull off the upset and

1214
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: advanced the divisional rounds. So that moment is hard top.

1215
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: That's one of the Broncos probably top three or four

1216
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: all time postseason single moments. So that one on the field,

1217
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: I'll remember other things. I'll remember, you know how he

1218
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: always had a smile for everybody, Very very warm person

1219
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: around the team, around the building, loved in the locker room,

1220
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: loved throughout the organization. I also remember in Super Bowl

1221
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: forty eight when the Broncos were getting drummed by the

1222
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and they lose forty three eight, and he

1223
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that kept fighting his tail

1224
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: off right to the very end, fighting for extra yards

1225
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: even after the cause had been lost. True professional in

1226
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: every way on and off the field. Just he be.

1227
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: He'll be missed. I'll miss seeing him around the building.

1228
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: You guys are getting a really good guy down there

1229
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: in Houston. Really looking forward to seeing him here, and

1230
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: I know you guys will see him soon again on

1231
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: the opposite side on Sunday. But as far as the

1232
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Texans go, they lose will fuller, which I'm sure you

1233
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: know for the to a season ending acl injury. So

1234
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: with Fuller out, obviously, Damarius Thomas can fill a little

1235
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: bit of a role as far as Fuller's concerned. Different

1236
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: skill set, but you know, can you give us a

1237
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: little idea of what he did well in that receiving

1238
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: group in the Broncos and where he might help the

1239
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: Texans on Sunday against the Broncos. Well, he can still

1240
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: make catches in traffic. Now he's lost to some of

1241
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: that top end speed getting down field, so he's not

1242
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: the vertical threat that he was, and he's not the

1243
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: threat of to make a breakaway on a bubble screen

1244
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: that he was earlier in his career. But you can

1245
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: still have tight you can have tight coverage on him

1246
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: and he can still make the catch in traffic. He's

1247
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: still capable of winning a physical one on one match

1248
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: against almost any cornerback because you know, he is bigger

1249
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: and stronger than almost any guy he's going to face.

1250
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I think could progress into

1251
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: a Larry Fitzgerald type of role in his thirties, depending

1252
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: on how long he keeps playing someone who doesn't have

1253
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: the breakaway speed but can catch that eight yard slant

1254
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: despite tight coverage. Move the chains, keep the offense going

1255
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: down the field. His per carry average probably won't be

1256
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: what it was earlier in his career, but he can

1257
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: be a guy who moves the sticks, forces the defense

1258
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: to take him seriously and play the Texans offense honest

1259
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: and not simply shade all covers over to DeAndre Hopkins.

1260
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: The Texans are going to see a familiar face on

1261
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: Sunday when they face case Keenum, who was here for

1262
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: the first few years of his career. His first season

1263
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: in Denver, he's been putting up some big numbers over

1264
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: two thousand, over twenty one hundred yards, passing ten touchdowns,

1265
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: but also ten interceptions. What's been the verdict on Keenum

1266
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: through the first eight starts and where can he improve?

1267
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: I'd say the jury's probably out on case Keenom right now,

1268
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: just because he has shown some good things and he's

1269
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Speaker 1: better than what the Broncos had at quarterback last year,

1270
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: cycling through Trevor Simeon, brock Oswiler and Paxton Lynch. But

1271
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Speaker 1: better means that they're better than number thirty one in

1272
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: the league in passer rating, which is where the Broncos

1273
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: were as a team in twenty seventeen, and that's why

1274
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 1: you have to say the jury is out. He's done

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: some good things. He certainly clicked with him Annual Sanders

1276
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: and Sanders is back to production that is at his

1277
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen twenty fourteen level with Peyton Manning. But at

1278
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: the same time, the interceptions are a concern. He has

1279
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: at least one interception in every game so far this

1280
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: year and had one on a pass to Damarius Thomas

1281
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: on a flee flicker in the fourth quarter against Kansas City.

1282
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: And the thing that the Broncos liked about Case Keenan

1283
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: when they brought him in March was he was a

1284
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: no mistake guy last year, only seven picks against twenty

1285
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: two touchdowns with the Vikings. Yet now he's gone back

1286
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: to a guy that has a little bit of a

1287
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: trouble keeping the ball out of the opponent's hands. It's

1288
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: something he's got to fix over the next few weeks

1289
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: because the Broncos, if they're going to make something out

1290
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: this season, they need to see Minnesota case, not Houston

1291
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: Rams case. Yeah. I was watching a little bit of

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01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: that Broncos Chiefs game on Sunday of Texans obviously played

1293
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday, So we were off on Sunday, a thirty

1294
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: to twenty three loss to the Chiefs. On paper, Denver

1295
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: stacked up really well against the Chiefs. They put up

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: one hundred eighty nine yards rushing. There were two of

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: two in goal to go situations. They actually had more

1298
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: first downs than Kansas City. You know what were some

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: of those issues in that loss. Well, you have to

1300
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: start on the defensive side, because the offense did well

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01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: enough to win. If you looked at the Broncos and

1302
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: before the game and said, Okay, they're gonna rush for

1303
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty yards even without Royce Freeman, who's

1304
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: battling a high ankle sprain, and Case Schemes gonna throw

1305
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: for two touchdown passes, You'd say, Wow, they've got a

1306
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: real good chance to win that game. The offense is

1307
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: doing what it wants to do because the running game

1308
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: is able to take pressure off of Case scheme, and

1309
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: he was able to complete some throws. He had a

1310
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: nice pass to Courtland Sutton down the left sideline step

1311
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: touchdown late in the first half. But on the defensive side,

1312
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: I talked with Chris Harris Jr. This morning and they're

1313
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of at withsend a little bit on the defense

1314
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: side because they had now standing performance against the Cardinals

1315
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football, and they're the only team that

1316
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: has held the Chiefs too below thirty points, keeping the

1317
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven back in Week four. But at the same time,

1318
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: the consistency isn't there and there are costly mistakes at times.

1319
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: There were two key penalties on the defense that helped

1320
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: lead to extended Chiefs drives in that game last week.

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: The pass rush is doing very well. Both Vonna Miller

1322
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: and Bradley Chubb. They split a sack last Sunday. They

1323
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: both have at least seven sacks apiece. They're getting what

1324
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: they want out of the pass rush. On the back end,

1325
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a struggle. They missed the keep

1326
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: to lead. Darian Stewart, per former Pro Bowl safety, Key's

1327
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: injured right now. He's had three next stingers. Bradley Roby

1328
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: has been forced to play an extensive role this year

1329
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: with a keep to lead now with the Rams, and

1330
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Roby has struggled in that role. A lot of teams

1331
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: seem to basically look at the Broncos in the secondary

1332
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: say we're gonna throw away from Chris Harris Jr. Take

1333
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: our chance against Roby from Maine brock Adam and Pacman

1334
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: Jones and they've found success. And then the other thing.

1335
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: While the run defense it's short itself up the last

1336
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: couple of games, it struggled mightily, actually allowed back to

1337
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: back two hundred yard runners earlier in October. So, yeah,

1338
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: the defensive side. And we used to talk about defense

1339
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: with the Broncos last year's it's the defense there is

1340
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: really causing them some issues right now. Yeah, you mentioned

1341
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb and he looks like he's having an outstanding

1342
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: rookie season. What's his transition to the NFL been like?

1343
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be the first time of the Texans

1344
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: to face him. Give us a little description of what

1345
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb looks like in that defense. Well, compared to

1346
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: Von Miller, who's more of a speed passed rusher, Chubb

1347
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: is more power guy two hundred and sixty nine pounds

1348
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: and they're starting to use that more effectively. When the

1349
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: season began, he's working at strong side outside linebackers and

1350
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: the strictly defined role of that backer involves bring tight ends. Well,

1351
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: that's not something Bradley Chubb really did in North Carolina State,

1352
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: where he was a hand in the dirt four three

1353
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: defensive end and teams exploited that early. Well, this Lee

1354
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks back in Week one had a big game,

1355
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: making plays primarily at Chubb's expense. So I think they

1356
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: figured out, okay, yeah, we might have to tweak some

1357
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: things tactically to adapt for what Bradley Chubb's skill set

1358
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: is and put some of those coverage responsibilities elsewhere and

1359
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: let him focus on gating end of the backfield being

1360
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: disruptive there. When that happened in the last few games,

1361
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: last three games, Bradley Chubb looks like a completely different player. Now.

1362
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: He looks like the guy that was arguably the best

1363
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: defensive player in this draft, second defensive player off the

1364
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: board behind Denzel Ward going to the Browns and complimenting

1365
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: with Von Miller. The two of them their classic bookend rushers.

1366
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: Now you have to account for both of them on

1367
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: the outside. It's one of them is always almost always

1368
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: going to get a one on one matchup, and that's

1369
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: going to allow either Ron Miller or Bradley Chub, whichever

1370
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: one gets the one on one, to see. So he

1371
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: looks like the real deal. All right. We saw von

1372
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Miller's comments a few weeks ago before that Thursday night

1373
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: win against the Cardinals. He basically guaranteed to win and

1374
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing his words. How much of a spark did

1375
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: that provide? We know that they won in that Thursday

1376
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: night game, but you know, is that sustainable for the

1377
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: second half of the season. It seemed like he was

1378
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: really fired up and ready to go and got everyone

1379
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: ready to play. How much of that do you see

1380
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: moving forward for the rest of the season if you

1381
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: can look into the future, I think it can be

1382
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: sustainable as they avoid the self inflicted wounds. That's the

1383
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: thing that that seems to really holding them back right now.

1384
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: Their own mistakes, penalties, mental errors, you missed assignments. That's

1385
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: the thing that's keeping this team in that mediocre range

1386
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: right now. Now. Von Miller when he said that going

1387
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: to Thursday Night football, it was one of those things

1388
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: where sometimes when a player makes a bold statement like that,

1389
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, it's Boltimore material. But that was aimed

1390
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: at the bronchos own locker room, and he'd even tipped

1391
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: off a couple of guys around the locker room before

1392
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: he had that press conference. Look, I'm going to say this,

1393
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: he wanted to make sure everybody was on point, and

1394
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: it did work. And I thought that they played well

1395
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: against can say not well enough to win, but they

1396
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: played well. Whether it's sustainable or not, I think that

1397
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: simply depends on how much momentum they can build. If

1398
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: they can string together a couple of wins in succession

1399
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: in November, and they've got to buy sitting there on

1400
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,919
Speaker 1: Veterans Day, but elsewhere in November, they have the Texans

1401
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: at home, buy at the Chargers, and the Chargers are

1402
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: playing well, and they'll have Nick Bosa back by then,

1403
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: but that will basically be a neutral sight game for

1404
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: the Bronchos because they'll be a lot of Broncho fans there,

1405
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: and then Pittsburgh at home. So if you can find

1406
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: a way to get some momentum win a couple of

1407
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: those games in November, then I think von Miller's words

1408
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: had a chance to write and eight and carry them

1409
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: and help carry them emotionally the rest of the way.

1410
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: But they've got to get the ball rolling, and they

1411
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: need a win over a good team, and that's something

1412
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: they're missing their wins right now they beat Seattle, and

1413
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: in the Week one there wasn't much expected Seattle over

1414
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: They're playing better now. They beat the Raiders in a

1415
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: close game in week two. The Raiders are terrible. They

1416
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals on Thursday Night Football back in Week seven.

1417
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: But the Cardinals are dreadful right now. They need a

1418
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: win over a playoff contender. If they can get one,

1419
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: I think one has potential become two or three and

1420
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: get them back in the race. All right, good stuff.

1421
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Andrew Mason covers the Broncos for Bronchos Radio in Denver

1422
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: Broncos dot Com. It's shaping up to be quite an

1423
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: exciting week heading into this Week nine matchup up at

1424
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: Mile High. Andrew, thanks again and look forward to seeing

1425
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: you there in Denver. All right, I'll see you this weekend.

1426
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: Take care of can't wait to get to Denver. Looks

1427
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: like it's going to be oh in the mid to

1428
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,959
Speaker 1: mid to high fifties. Originally, rain was in the forecast

1429
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: on Monday or Tuesday, and so I worried about it

1430
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: coming in on Sunday. But hopefully the rain will hold

1431
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: off and we'll get a nice afternoon there in Denver.

1432
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: But I was like going to Denver, even though the

1433
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: altitude becomes a factor. I like going there. We spent

1434
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: a week there in fourteen for practice, went there for

1435
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: a game on Monday night in twenty sixteen, so had

1436
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of prow downtown before the game

1437
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: that morning. So it's kind of fun. I like going

1438
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: to Denver, and we're going there on Saturday to take

1439
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: on the Broncos on Sunday. Speaking to the Broncos, let's

1440
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: get to our men behind the mics. Dave Logan is

1441
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: the play by play voice for the Denver Broncos, and

1442
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: he joins Mark Vandery next right here on Texans Access,

1443
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: the Choose Fun moment of the week has brought to

1444
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: you by Carnival. Has got to be the trade for

1445
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas because Bill O'Brien was at the podium

1446
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: today and went through all the different things that he

1447
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: likes about his new receiver. I like his size, I

1448
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: like his all of I like his route tree. I

1449
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: think he can do a lot of different things. I

1450
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: like his intelligences experience. I don't think there's any substitute

1451
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: for experience, you know, I like, you know, obviously he's

1452
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: got good hands. I mean there's a lot of a

1453
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things to like about Damarius Thomas,

1454
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: no doubt. Deshaan Watson talked about it as well and

1455
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: said he was really excited about the Marius Thomas being

1456
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: part of the team. I'm very excided. This is a

1457
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: great opportunity for him, for us to be able to

1458
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: do the things we wanted to do. And I have

1459
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: a veteran guy to come not just hip us out,

1460
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: but um, you know, help myself out. You know, he's

1461
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: played a lot of football, It's been around a lot

1462
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: of different quarterbacks that had a lot of experience, so

1463
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: I can also learned from him that Choose Fun Moment

1464
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: of the week brought to you by Carnival. Don't forget

1465
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: to enter for your chance to win a cruise every

1466
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: week if the Texans catch a touchdown, Carnival the official

1467
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: cruise line of the Houston Texans. Choose Fun Now, Shan

1468
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: Watson will hopefully be throwing to Damarius Thomas on Sunday.

1469
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: Don't know exactly how much Demarrius is gonna play in

1470
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: this one, but a guy that has seen a lot

1471
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: of his work over the years, in fact, well every

1472
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: game of Damarius Thomas's career in Denver is play by

1473
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: play voice Dave Logan. He joined Mark Vandermer for Our

1474
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: Men Behind the Mike's segment a little earlier today, Mark,

1475
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: take it away, Dave. First of all, great to talk

1476
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: with you once again. Tell me what kind of player

1477
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: the Texans getting into Marius Thomas. Oh. I think they're

1478
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: getting a guy that still has a significant upside. I

1479
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: mean he is, He's a talented big man that can run.

1480
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: He's a he's a really good route runner. I think,

1481
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing Damarius probably would tell you

1482
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: is that there have been times when the ball has

1483
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: been on the ground a little bit, but he's he's

1484
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: got a lot left in the tank. I think it's

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: I think it's a good deal for the Texans given

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: the fact that will Fuller obviously was hurt and out

1487
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: for the year, and it will give Houston a body

1488
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: on the other side that has to be reckoned with

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01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, and so I think it will

1490
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: help DeAndre Hopkins and I think I think also from

1491
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, from that perspective, Deshaun Watson is going

1492
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: to really like what he finds in the big receiver.

1493
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: How strange is it going to be to call the

1494
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,919
Speaker 1: game on Sunday and Damarius Thomas is in a Texans

1495
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: uniform just a few days after being traded, Dave, It's

1496
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: a little bit weird, right, Uh, certainly for me. I

1497
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: mean I've called every single one of his catches, um

1498
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: and I listen. I am, um a big, big fan

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: of Demerius, not only as a player, but as a guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a He's a really terrific young young person. He

1501
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: gets it. Um. You know, you can approach him off

1502
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: the field. He's community mind, He's just he's just really

1503
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: a good guy. I mean, he'll be a rings famer

1504
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: here with Broncos whenever he retires, and no question about that.

1505
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,959
Speaker 1: He's a top five guy in virtually every receiving category

1506
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: in Broncos history. But it is going to be a

1507
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: bit weird. I you know, My hope is that he's

1508
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: going to receive a really good welcome back in sort

1509
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: of a weird way some five days later when he

1510
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 1: trots out out of the field here at Bronchos Stadium

1511
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: at Mile High is a member of the Texans. But

1512
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it will be strange, no question about that.

1513
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it's going to be strange for him. Dave,

1514
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: what about Case, Keenam, We're very familiar with him here.

1515
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: He's a Houston favorite, went to the University of Houston.

1516
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: Great year last year with Minnesota. How's it working out

1517
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: so far? I know you want to see better results,

1518
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: but what are you seeing out of Case through half

1519
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: a season? Yeah? I think Case, you know, has been

1520
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: a little bit like the entire team. He's been He's

1521
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: been up and down, He's had he's had some good moments.

1522
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: He's throwing an interception in every single game and three

1523
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: in the first He's the only quarterback in the NFL

1524
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: to do that. But I like Case. I mean, he's

1525
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: he's a ball player. He's a gritty, tough, competitive guy.

1526
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: That the Bronchos have not been efficient in a couple

1527
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: of areas that they have to be in order to

1528
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: be a good office, and part of that is Case,

1529
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: and part of it, I think is is players, and

1530
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: part of it maybe place selection. But they haven't been

1531
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: efficient in the red zone and they haven't scored enough points,

1532
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: and that's something that they they they plagued this team

1533
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: even last year. So I think Case right now would

1534
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: probably in terms of a grade, if I had to

1535
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: give him a grade, would get a similar grade to

1536
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the offense, and that would be a

1537
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: C plus. Dave Logan, voice of the Broncos, joining US

1538
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. What about the way the Broncos are

1539
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 1: able to run the football? Leading the league in yards

1540
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: per carry? That phase of things looks pretty good. Yeah,

1541
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: they really had. That's that's been the single biggest improvement

1542
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: I think mark from the Broncos offensive perspectives. They have

1543
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: had a terrific running game and h really that That's

1544
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: one of the things they intended to improve on coming

1545
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: into this season. They wanted to be a run team,

1546
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: a play path team, and they thought that was what

1547
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: would suit case. Is skill set better than anything else.

1548
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: But they've had They've had really good production from a

1549
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: couple of rookie backs, Royce Freeman, who was a second

1550
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: on draft choice, and also Philip Lindsay, who wasn't drafted

1551
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: at all. Those two young guys have stepped in and

1552
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: played very very well. Freeman banged up didn't play last

1553
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: week against Kansas City. Not exactly sure with the high

1554
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: ankle sprain. What will happen in the game Sunday. But

1555
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: the running game I think has been as good as

1556
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: anything to Broncos offense is Joan Well, we're all familiar

1557
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Sanders, but what about the other guys. With

1558
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: the trade of Damarius Thomas, Elway was clear that he

1559
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: wanted to play the younger receivers. So what are we

1560
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: looking at there? Yeah, I think you're looking at the

1561
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton to start with, who was again a second

1562
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: round draft choice, and I said Freeman was a second.

1563
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: Freeman was actually a third. Sutton was a second. Has

1564
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: tremendous upside. He's long, he's tall, he can go up

1565
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: and get the ball. He's a fifty fifty guy. He's

1566
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: a high point catcher, and I think, you know, the

1567
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: future's really bright for him. And I think they felt

1568
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: like that was one of the reasons they could make

1569
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: the move with Damarius, is that they had a young

1570
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: guy that they really feel good about. They could step

1571
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 1: in and get a lot of valuable experience. DaShan Hamilton's

1572
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: been hurt a lot. He was a fourth round pick

1573
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: at a Penn State, but they like him in the slot,

1574
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: good route runner, very quick into and out of his break.

1575
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: And then Tim Patrick who is a first year guy,

1576
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: built a little bit like Sutton, not quite as thick,

1577
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: but a high point guy, six four six five. He

1578
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: can he can run. He's made some big, big catches

1579
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: for the Broncos. So I think I think in terms

1580
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: of looking at the future, and even with the future

1581
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: being this year, I think Denver feels like at the

1582
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: receiver spot they've got some good young talent. Dave Logan,

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01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: voice of le Broncos, joining us on Texans Radio. Now,

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: I noticed they're giving up a lot of the ground,

1585
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: yet you do have great pass rushers. So what gives

1586
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: their upfront with the ability to stop the run? Dave, Well,

1587
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't been they haven't been good at

1588
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: stopping the run, and they haven't been good in red

1589
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: zone efficiency, and so that's that's been an issue. And

1590
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: it's tough too if you can't stop the run, excuse me,

1591
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: it's tough to pressure the quarterback. So it's you know,

1592
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: it just seems like it's been hit and missed. Over

1593
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: the weeks. It's been it's been a problem area for

1594
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They've had some injuries, no question about that, um,

1595
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: but they just I mean, the box has not played

1596
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: I think as well as they thought they would come

1597
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: into the season. You know, it's been it's been a

1598
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: roller coaster of a season. They lost four games in

1599
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: a row, had a big win against Arizona, acknowledging Arizona

1600
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: is not a very good team. They've played the Chiefs

1601
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: twice played and played them very close. They played the

1602
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: Rams in Denver and played the Rams reasonably well. So

1603
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: you never really know what sort of team is going

1604
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: to show up from Sunday to Sunday, when they when

1605
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: they come to play, and when things work out. It's

1606
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: a pretty good team. It's a team that can move

1607
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: the ball. It's a team that, certainly from a yardie standpoint,

1608
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: has good numbers. But it's the team that in the

1609
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: red zone on both sides of the football, has not

1610
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: played very well this year. Well, we'll see what's that.

1611
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens on Sunday. Dave. I want to

1612
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and I look

1613
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: forward to visiting with you in the booth Sunday before

1614
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. All right, thanks a lot, Darius

1615
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: Dave Logan played by play voice of the Denver Broncos.

1616
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing him on Sunday and the entire

1617
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: Broncos squad. And I said earlier, I like going to Denver.

1618
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: This should be a very interesting one on Sunday, especially

1619
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: with the Damarius Thomas angle. I had read somewhere and

1620
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: I can't remember, I think this game from somebody in

1621
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: Denver media that said that Damarius Thomas has a massive

1622
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: portrait over on the side of the building, a side

1623
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: of a hotel building in downtown Denver, and I'm like, WHOA,

1624
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: that's going to be odd yet really really cool that

1625
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: he's on our side, not their side. So definitely looking

1626
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: forward to that. This week's stats Challenge has brought to

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Speaker 1: Forty six for one thousand, one hundred fifty four. Forty

1630
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: six for one thousand, one hundred and fifty four. That

1631
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: was the Marius Thomas the Marius Thomas's final year at

1632
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. His junior year, he caught forty six passes

1633
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: for one thousand, one hundred fifty four yards. That's a

1634
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 1: twenty five point one yards per catch average. That's insanity. Now,

1635
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: he's not obviously not done that in the NFL, but

1636
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: he's playing at a flexbone wishbone offense and still became

1637
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: a first round pick in large part because of that

1638
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: production deepen down the field. He was absolutely amazing and

1639
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: nearly unstoppable in college and now he's a Texan and

1640
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he is able to

1641
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: do on Sunday. A big thanks to everybody who participated

1642
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: in the show. Gotta think Brian Gaine. He came in

1643
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: here for exclusive interview with Marking myself to talk about

1644
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: the deal and the process of that was fantastic stuff

1645
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: that we got from Brian Gaines. We really appreciate him

1646
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: being in. Of course Mark to Andre, to Russell Baxter,

1647
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: to DBC, to Andrew Mason, to Dave Logan to play

1648
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: by play voice of the Denver Broncos. But to you

1649
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: guys for listening. You guys are the absolute best. We

1650
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 1: don't do this without you. We never take that for granted.

1651
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: We thank you so much for being here. We got

1652
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: a big one on Sunday, Texans. Try to get to

1653
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: six and three. We'll break the game down more in

1654
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: detail on Friday. I'll give you my keys to the game.

1655
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: We'll have a little bit more from the players, we'll

1656
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: have our deep Slant interview of the week, we'll have

1657
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: our get to know this week. Our get to Know

1658
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: is gonna be DeShawn Watson and it's very fun with

1659
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: Drew Doherty. So you got a lot to look forward

1660
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: to on Friday, in the game on Sunday. Thank you

1661
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: so much for being here. Everybody. We'll see you tomorrow

1662
01:24:42,720 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans. Psssssss.