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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one Monday is Blue.

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Speaker 1: Alongside of me is the world famous Joe Grande. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, It took pleasure and Mr world Famous Craig

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Speaker 1: Wasserman from The Pot Brothers out of Law missing today

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Speaker 1: as Mr Little Brother. We do miss him as he's

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Speaker 1: out there surfing in he's surfing. I seen him with

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Speaker 1: the shirt off yesterday. He had his shirt off. He

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Speaker 1: was trying to go live with the shirt off. People

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Speaker 1: were like, yo, put that back on, bro, you're ever

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Speaker 1: calling him cast for the Friendly Joe And they said

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Speaker 1: he had a machette and all kinds of uh like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a machete under those shorts. It

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Speaker 1: was fun either way. We have a big brother here

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Speaker 1: today on the show, we have a brother from Oakland

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Speaker 1: who I love like my own brother. We've never slapped hands,

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Speaker 1: or maybe we did back in the day, but I

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Speaker 1: was so high, and maybe we're at the sound factory

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Speaker 1: somewhere else and I can't recall. But Tucky Blunt a

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Speaker 1: k A. Government name Alfonso. He's the co owner of

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Speaker 1: Blunts and More and Proud Papa's Clothing. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: what's dope about this cat. He's the first person to

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Speaker 1: open a dispensary in Oakland under the Social Equity Act.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken. Is it Oakland? Are the

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Speaker 1: world the world? Yes? The first person in the world open.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that story. If you want to

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Speaker 1: check them out on Instagram, it's Tucky Blunt eighty on

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Speaker 1: Twitter Blunt Tucky. Um, we're gonna talk about black ownership

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Speaker 1: and cannabis and and welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh

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Speaker 1: one sir. How you doing, brother man Man, thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. It's honor and a privilege. So I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I'm a static. Actually, it's really good. I've loved seeing

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Speaker 1: you interview with our brother sway and doing your thing

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Speaker 1: there and all over the globe, getting all your national recognition.

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Speaker 1: But one thing off top is, you know you get

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Speaker 1: popped back in the day, and to be a social

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Speaker 1: equity owner you have to have a criminal record. When

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Speaker 1: I did the research, John, you dog to think you

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Speaker 1: got busted for eighty dollars. We're the weed man. That's

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Speaker 1: what gave me the record. Let's talk about that. Um,

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Speaker 1: So that particular day, had they came about an hour earlier,

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Speaker 1: total different circumstances, but but that particular day shooting range, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I came a little earlier, but um, I was

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Speaker 1: getting back from the shooting range. I had a thing

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Speaker 1: We would always go to the shooting range after we

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Speaker 1: like normal. Not even three minutes later, cop pull up,

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Speaker 1: We heard your car your description has a gun and

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Speaker 1: ever in that nature, so I just kind of like froze,

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Speaker 1: good over here. Okay, no, we can, we can, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Then I got felony probation. Uh, ten years of feling

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Speaker 1: on uh where Osterdam University is or was, Yeah, right

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Speaker 1: So that that dispensary. Man, I went there one time.

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Speaker 1: right man. They they they're chilling um, my daughters in

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Speaker 1: aspiring DJ. She is really really good at DJ. My

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you know what I'm saying. So I would

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Speaker 1: a minute. Let's you know, I believe you guys do

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Speaker 1: bit about that. Okay. So Proud Papas was something I

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Speaker 1: We are with Tuckie Blunt. Tucky Blunts. Tucky Blunts like

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Speaker 1: But to have that status back in a team, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I said, teach these people by predatory lending practices. Um,

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Speaker 1: from the town to New York have come up to

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00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: you and said Tucky Munt helped me off, HANSO, what

428
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: do I need to do? So break down for the

429
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: listener that's out there, that's going damn, I got a record,

430
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: people are approaching me or I want to get in

431
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 1: the game, lace us up. Okay, So give me a minute,

432
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: because this is like a couple of parted. Answer one,

433
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: as far as everybody getting reform, everybody get out of

434
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: jail for cannabis has to happen. They gotta get out.

435
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: But that also comes with us voting in the right

436
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: elections and not just in the ones we think we

437
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: posed a voting. You gotta vote for your city council

438
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: and mayors, and people have to understand that the bottom up,

439
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: all people, black, white, pink, whatever, we all have to

440
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: do that for wherever we vocus. By time it gets

441
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: to the presidential too late, even though you still gotta vote,

442
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: but by then that this is already made. You know

443
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying's kind of like whatever, Well, that's part

444
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: of it too. If you want to get in this space,

445
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: really want to be in this space. What I mean

446
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: by that is, yeah, free everybody that's been locked up

447
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: for it. But do I want everybody's locked up ford

448
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: to come into the space and everybody's not gonna approach

449
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: this like a business, then funk it up, get closed,

450
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: lose money, going dead, and then that's gonna be what

451
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the community talks about. Look at that

452
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: black person in the cannabis space. We told you this

453
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. So if you are going to get

454
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: into space, go to your oaksterra damns, get your learning,

455
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: get your certificates, you know, reach out and get training

456
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: on the field you want to be in. But also

457
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: don't come in here thinking everyone's gonna open a dispensary

458
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna grow weak. One or two of the

459
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: hardest things to do in the cannabis space anywhere, whether

460
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 1: it's legal or illegal, it's growing and sale weed. So

461
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: if you think that you could just get into that, don't. Don't.

462
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Don't come in expecting to get into that. No, I

463
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: not like to kill anyone's dreams, but you have to

464
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: be real, Like everyone wants to go on sale. That's

465
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: the main question I get, Like can we grow and say? No,

466
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: everyone can't grow and sale. Learn how to make the

467
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: lights that go in the dispensaries, I mean, learn how

468
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: to do security, learn how to do the deliveries. It's

469
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: learn out of the host podcast about we like, there's

470
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: other stuff that you can do. So my main thought

471
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: when I tell people they want to get in it

472
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: is make sure they really want to get in it

473
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: through the train and the texts to be in it,

474
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: and then then we see what happens, you know what

475
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean. But you got a lot of people are

476
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: just gonna get out and jump in the game. I

477
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: believe that's gonna sunk us up. It's gonna have a

478
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: negative effect. Yeah, we we see that all the time

479
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: and it's funny you say about dream killing. That's what

480
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: we called ourselves in uh in eighteen when the REGs

481
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: came into play and people would come in for a

482
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: consult about getting into the business and they were getting

483
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: out of the the illicit market at that point, or

484
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: even the legal cooperative market back then, and we'd say, look,

485
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different, you know, eyes wide open.

486
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna be what you think it is.

487
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: You can't just come in and for you know, twenty

488
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: grand open up a store. You know, you gotta have

489
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: a half a million dollars. You gotta have the business sense,

490
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: you gotta have a team, you gotta have a c

491
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: p A. You gotta have the right law, you gotta

492
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: have the right compliance team. It's just not as easy

493
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: as you think. And uh and we've probably turned away,

494
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: not turned away, probably made more people run away then

495
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: we've taken in, as opposed to you know, talking lots

496
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: of fluff and just you know, retaining anybody want to pay,

497
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: guess what, and not to cut you off, but guess what,

498
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: that's a good thing because they weren't ready to be

499
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: in the business. That's all all the stuff you named

500
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: off are things that you're gonna need to run a

501
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: successful business. So if that runs you off, then you

502
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: don't need to be in this business. It's okay with

503
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean I agree, and and that we

504
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: we never we never the harsh reality. We never wavered

505
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: from that, even though people were will and there were

506
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: other attorneys taking money from people who wanted to get

507
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: in it without giving them that eyes wide open talk.

508
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: And we just you know, there's not something we wanted

509
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: to do because I didn't want to get into you know,

510
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: grand into it and all of a sudden, this isn't

511
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's not how we you know, how we

512
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: did things. So uh And and then as far as

513
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: the social equity applicants, all of them we've done. I

514
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't say pro bono. It's one of the we we've

515
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: done those things where it's if you get successful in

516
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: this deal, you know, take care of us down the road.

517
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: But until then, we're gonna give you the support and backing.

518
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: And we have about six or seven people that we

519
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: chose to work with that otherwise they wouldn't have any

520
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: type of access to legal support or and especially going

521
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: through the operating agreements and all those corporate documents that

522
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: all these people were thrown at these guys and they

523
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: had no clue. Well, I think there's a huge garbage,

524
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: like I have contracts, we have like you know, most

525
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: of that ship's a bunch of bullshit. It's like, okay,

526
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: just like put it in a one give me a

527
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: one page why that's us? This this this, But you

528
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: know that's another way to throw people off. If you're

529
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: not willing to read that, oh you may not be

530
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: willing to do it. Sign deals that you don't realize

531
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: have you exed out by page three? You know what

532
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's that's the education piece, you know

533
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like and it's it's you. You would

534
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: think it would be a logical thing to do, but again,

535
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: we are dealing with an industry that is being ran

536
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: by people not in the industry. Yeah, they're they're using

537
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: they're using LLLC membership transfer agreements that are pages long

538
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: with crapping there that someone else wrote thirty years ago.

539
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: And they're using the same goddamn document over and over

540
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: and over and over. I mean, when you come to us,

541
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: we'll give you a one or two page document. Man,

542
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: you take that to them and say, if you don't

543
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: like it, go somewhere else. Depends what side of the

544
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: coin you're on, what kind of who's represent people? How

545
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: hard was that chilly for you, Chucky Blunt? As we're

546
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: talking to Chucky but from Blunts and more dispensary in Oakland?

547
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: How hard was that dealing with the do you need

548
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: legal representation? When you're such a smart cat yourself, you're

549
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: looking at this quat man, I can figure this ship

550
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: out myself. Did you still need to search for legal counsel? Well,

551
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: for us another cold situation, part of our team is

552
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: a legal cannabis counsel UH in Florida, and Ritney's mom

553
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: was a cannabis paralegal, so we had legal attached to

554
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: us from the jump, which worked out. But I always

555
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: had questions, you know what I mean. I don't know

556
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: legal jargon, so I would be looking up words, pulling

557
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: them out the dictionary, seeing what they meant, to find

558
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: them to the page. And then if I had questions,

559
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I had in house legal. But that's something that I

560
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: feel the city should provide, and the city the Technical

561
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: assist program is ran by attorneys. They're not cannabis attorneys.

562
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: It's just like nothing, you know. I think I think

563
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: what happens is is right now with with the social equity,

564
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: you know, because I spoke to a lot of them myself,

565
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: and they were asking for advice and help, and you know,

566
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: I I sat there and and some of them had

567
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: these visions that were unobtainable. So, you know, on on

568
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: one side, I'm like, you know, you can't expect someone

569
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: to drop, you know, ten million dollars on you and

570
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: then let you run the whole ten million dollars right

571
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: without any say so, because that's kind of what it

572
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: what it comes to. And and it's like, you know,

573
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: so that's a scary proposition for for an investor, you know.

574
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I get both sides, But it doesn't mean

575
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: you have to be predatory. I mean the rules of

576
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: no and I agree with not being predatory, but but

577
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: but there should have been you know, doing it the

578
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: proper way. We would have said, hey, if you're gonna

579
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: spend more than of you know, this amount of this

580
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: million dollars, we need to be you know, completely involved

581
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: in it in those decisions. And then if he goes

582
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: above that, then it goes to this next level, like

583
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: a tiered sister there he is, Yeah that the ballers. Okay, okay,

584
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: sorry y'all from home, right, Uh So it's it's just

585
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the trip. You say that about just

586
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: you know how everything is, but it's like, man, it's

587
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: just it's just I don't know, like how can I

588
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: describe how we had to deal with the legal stuff.

589
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: It was just more so, just like if you've got

590
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: people that you can give some knowledge to and just

591
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: have them understand what they're going into and know their

592
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: worth and know their value, that's just a start, you

593
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's that's that's bare minimum. So

594
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: they can be like, okay, cool, You've got some people

595
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: that just are gonna sign a way just they don't

596
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: care and not pay attention. It's money dangling in front

597
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: of them is cool. And these business you know, these

598
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: sharks know that they know that they're gonna find the

599
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: ones that don't care. But what is wrong with you

600
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: on in forty percent and still being able to make

601
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: decisions like I don't I don't understand what is the

602
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: whole majority thing with the big companies? If you know

603
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: that every person to help get your license up and

604
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: you can talk them into having your name on the

605
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: store and still letting you have something from the control.

606
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Most of these people don't want the control and don't

607
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: want to be at the store where I like to

608
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: be at my store and talk to my customers and

609
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: do all the stuff and learn everything about the business.

610
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Sean from Bernard's own Hayden Frisco. He wants to be

611
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: he the general manager. He was like, he wants to

612
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: be bad person. Some of them don't. There's nothing wrong

613
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: with you. Still have me your majority and I'm still

614
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: doing all this ship. Like if these other if these

615
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: bigger companies can understand that. But again we're dealing with

616
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: people that don't understand hustle. They'll understand the wig game.

617
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: They understand none of that ship, you know what I'm saying,

618
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: So they don't they're not thinking that for them two percent,

619
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change anything because at the end of

620
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: the day, you can write within the contract if you

621
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: start doing stupid ship, we're gonna say stop doing stupid

622
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: ship three times, and then after that we take over.

623
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: You can put ways in there to do what you

624
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: gotta do, and then the person on the other end

625
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: can throw there, you know, go ahead in l A.

626
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: They can't relinquish their ownership to the to the non

627
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: social equity partner. I mean they've the way they've made

628
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: the rules, it makes it really tough on a you know,

629
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: company that wants coming in to invest on. And uh,

630
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: it just like like you've been saying, though the people

631
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: who made up all these rules, it sounds good the

632
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: social equity statard that helping people out, but they're not.

633
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: They're not they're not doing it in a way that's

634
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: really practical and how people are gonna come out. And

635
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: I think I really like your angle too as far

636
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: as if you're gonna have these programs, I mean, make

637
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: sure that it's really set up so a black person,

638
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: person of color can be successful, so you don't get

639
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: that negative stigma if something goes down, Like you were

640
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: saying earlier that you just don't want you know, you

641
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: don't want failures because it wasn't done properly. And then

642
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna look, we told you waste the money, blah

643
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: blah blah whatever you said earlier. And uh, I think

644
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: that's really important. But the legislators and I like what

645
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you said to about voting from the city council up,

646
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: because the city council actually is the most the biggest,

647
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the most vital pieces of the government.

648
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Like I remember going to school here about checks and

649
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: balancing and known the legislator from the official frands, like,

650
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: you have to start at the local level to help

651
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: craft the rest of the tree. But I don't I

652
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: don't know if this is something that's toldly all subject,

653
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: but I think it's something that's going on nationwide. We're

654
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna they're not teaching our kids. It's just ignorance of

655
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: never being able to learn it. So what I mean

656
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: because it's in cannabis especially, I want to vote, especially

657
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: especially in California. The uh, everything starts at the city level.

658
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Right if the city council has to have to pass

659
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: an ordinance allowing for cannabis in that city, or the

660
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: people of the city have to pass an initiative, it's

661
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the governor or something. So we gotta make sure we

662
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: vote for the governor. No, no, no, yeah, you gotta

663
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: go in city council. People are are they behind the cannabis?

664
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: And we gotta get the people out there and vote.

665
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: We gotta we we got what we call smoke the vote.

666
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: People gotta get out there and vote. Every top hip

667
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: hop artist I've been bitching about this for three years.

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: They should be blasted out voting. Go vote for a

669
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: cannabis friendly and and every week on the OH I

670
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: come up with in in some city state, at the city,

671
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: state or federal level. There's all kinds of candidates who

672
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: are coming out in favor of legalizing cannabis in their

673
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: campaign information not hidden in the back, not you know,

674
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to really talk about it, but I'm

675
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: for it, but literally in your face, I'm smoking a

676
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: joint as a candidate. And there's just so many people

677
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: out there like that. We need to get everybody out

678
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: to vote. And I'll get off my host. I can

679
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: speak on the rappers and why some do some don't,

680
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: but I can speak on me. I'll be goddamn. I'm

681
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna do everything in my power so people can see

682
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: people like us are willing to vote, are trying to

683
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: put the right people to office, are willing to talk

684
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: about what needs to be done in the space, putting

685
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: the right people in the space. I don't have no

686
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: like leash because it's me. I'm being genuinely me and

687
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting anybody. I'm just calling how it needs

688
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: to be called based on my experience selling cannabis. So

689
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: I was sixteen in East open So a lot of

690
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: my trades, they may come off of cool cool or

691
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: he's being an asshole. I don't give a funk because

692
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: the ship has to be said so people can understand,

693
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: like it could be done a certain way and all

694
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: this could be right. And don't want to be me.

695
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't have to be doing making. I want to

696
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: get into that East you know East Oakland growing up

697
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: because I'm from the Bay as well, right, so we've

698
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: crossed paths, have mutual friends and growing up in East

699
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Oakland or Oakland period being black. If you know Oakland,

700
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: you know Grape Street and you know the brothers out there.

701
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't crips and bloods. It was Grape Street. And

702
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: you know you go to the lake and how did

703
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: you deal with selling weed and that mentality? I mean

704
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: maybe you are a Grape Street I don't know, but

705
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how did you deal with that? I'm

706
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: from the Deep, I'm from the DP so were I'm

707
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: from a um But how it just how I'm moving

708
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: in the game for me was from my daddy. My

709
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: daddy never sucked with me in the game, never saw

710
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: we with me until we got grown grown, we don't.

711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: He never did that. He taught me how to detail cars,

712
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: so I'm in detailing cars for thirty years. It but

713
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: how he sold his weed, I noticed he never went

714
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: to jail. How he did that was there was a transaction.

715
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: It was I'm gonna pull up, I'm gonna come in,

716
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this transaction. I'm gonna smoke some of

717
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: the weed I just sold you, and then I'm gonna

718
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: go home. So I'm like, well, damn, if I want

719
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: to sell weed, that's how I'm gonna have to do it.

720
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: And then once I started working and realized all of

721
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: my associates that I worked with smoke, it was just like,

722
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't need to go to the corner, going to

723
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: the corners. How you get caught up. The reason why

724
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I got caught up that day and how I was out.

725
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: I was on the turf for about a seven month

726
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: period in between my son being born, I had I

727
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: was in between jobs. So I was like, let me

728
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: go to the turk and I never made that move

729
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: to go to the church. I wasn't talk to me

730
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: you all that because I would never go at home,

731
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Like I always feel like if I want to sell

732
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: me that as a business to go, it's not get

733
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: caught standing on somebody's corner. It's how you get caught. Advertiself,

734
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: You're you're basically saying, I'm selling this, probably get you know,

735
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little jail board, so please come get me.

736
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: At least I'm selling them behind the closed door in

737
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: a business with a person whatever whatever. You know what

738
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's my outfit. That's how I was that

739
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: with survive and hope as a man and the cookie

740
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: man like people know me for something. We actually to

741
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: two thousand one. So it's just like that's just I've

742
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: just been moving like that forever and I always use

743
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: myself as a store of brand in business. So well,

744
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: we don't know, it's just it wasn't meant to bet me.

745
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: I get so so we're with the elf l farm

746
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: joy once. Um just all right, keep saying tukey man,

747
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: you know why because tuchi tukie. What's to do from chechias? Yeah,

748
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: you get a turkey. Williams I'm like, are you guys related.

749
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this drink. Welcome back to

750
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: Cannabi's talk. Who it took you blood? Right here? Blind

751
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Chuckie blind? Oh it's Tucky, I blund you know why?

752
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Before we get started, I wanted to give a special

753
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: thanks to Jeremy, Jennifer, Elvis, Chubb, Pena, and don't forget

754
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: black eyed Pit Pit. Yeah, my brother got with a

755
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: black guy. Still. Brother came to work and he said

756
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: he fell in the shower. Yeah, and he had to

757
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: cut on his eye with a big old not on

758
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: his eye her finger. Oh, man, don't be disrespected like

759
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that again at home. Yeah, she beat because she was

760
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: up so nice she did. Man. So no, it's it's

761
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: the fun part of the show man. Before we get

762
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: into the high five, I want to tell you something.

763
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: You know right now, you've been on you know, different podcasts,

764
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: different you know shows, and different you know outlets. Can

765
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: you talk about some of those outlets that you have

766
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: been on wading Uh, I've been on Swaying Like you said,

767
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: good dude, have me out there. I went out there

768
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: for my birthday, so I did sway Karen hung on

769
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: my birthday. Um, which was dope, like, why are you

770
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: hearing your birthday? I'm like, man, I gotta spread the

771
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: world whatever day it is. So I was great. Um,

772
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: I've been on because I feel like if I'm not

773
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: willing to come on my birthday, that's being stagnant, Like

774
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: I really need to get this message out there to

775
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: as many people as possible. So again, it's an honor

776
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: pleasant for me to be here, but I've done them

777
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: this year. I've been for Forbes give me a feature

778
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: on four twenty at four twenty with a Warren Barbro,

779
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: the dude. I met him when I was in New

780
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: York as well. Um, I did Black Enterprise recently. UM,

781
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing Cannabis Talk one on one right now. I'm

782
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: doing Fox Soul next week. They reached out. I've just

783
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: been I've just been whoever run y'all emails, I've seen email.

784
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I get up every morning at five and say my

785
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: bio to somebody, and I'm just persistent and you know,

786
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: trying to get the message out there. So now, how

787
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: long have you been doing all these interviews? And it's

788
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: something that kind of just happened or did it happen

789
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: to around you know, when you first opened in November

790
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: or it finally it's kind of starting to head. Oh

791
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: so when we first opened, before we're open and people

792
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: called wind that we were spinning open. People are kind

793
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: of like getting England. But once we opened, we had

794
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: our local coverage and it was just for me. I'm

795
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: our marketing department. So I tried to think of ways

796
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: I can market without spend a lot of money because

797
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of money. Believe or not.

798
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Everybody think we're rich or we're not. Um So I

799
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: tried to think of ways to market without spending money

800
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: and ask me, so if I got to get on

801
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: the plane to go meet somebody to go interview to

802
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: get your bio together? Um, I forgot who was I

803
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: was talking to. Um Oh Erica Diaz, she does something

804
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: called a Table of twenty and she was like, semio bio.

805
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: She honored me and one of her events and had

806
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: never met before anything, and I was like, I don't

807
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: have a bio. Let me get a bio. And that

808
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: was um in uh like the beginning of two thousand

809
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: nineteen and I've just been on ever since. I feel

810
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: like if I haven't sent my bio to five outlets

811
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm lagging because I need to be on everything that

812
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: that will allow me to be on you know what

813
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean. So props the I Heart Radio for you know,

814
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: allowing y'all to do that. Because my brother works for

815
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: my Heart and at came Yale and he couldn't do nothing.

816
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: All he could do was mention us on air. But

817
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: when I see I Heart, I'm like, dude, times are changing.

818
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: So I'm just like I said, I'm honored media. It's

819
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: not new to me because I used to be a

820
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: rapper and I used to be on stage a lot.

821
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: I used to throw parties in openand like you know,

822
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: Joe said, I've been around, but I don't mind sharing knowledge.

823
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: So if that means I gotta be the spokesperson for

824
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: my store, yeah that's pre promotion. I don't have to

825
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: pay me, So yeah, man, I used to love going

826
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: to Open back in the days. When I go to

827
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: East Fourteenth and I go to Flints Barbecue, you know,

828
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: boy oh boy, we would believe high school to go

829
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: get your slab fl barbecue store. If people have no idea,

830
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean they got everything Jones out there, but Flints Barbecue.

831
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: That's the old is the one is the one Chucky.

832
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Let's get a little flow real quick. We want let's

833
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: hear it flow like you're on the fourteen hanging out. Dude,

834
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I do all right. I put on the spot to

835
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: wrap all right. Let me see, let me see, let

836
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: me see, we need to do it. We got all right.

837
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: I've been to weed man twenty four and counting big bags.

838
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: That's your baby mom about me. You're mad and that's

839
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: really not shocking. LTD in front of nanny house, clean

840
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: as fuck, knocking. You claim you blowing good, but all

841
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: I smell is gelato. That ship has watered down like

842
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: an off brand Moscotto. I've been blowing good since the

843
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: Red Fence days, Real life Green Forward Zip then plays

844
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: a hunting made the dose by the Weish by me

845
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: and Bert had a rolling bus in hell of knots

846
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: in me a twin. If you wanted to for a team,

847
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: just gotta go from Veho. I stay ready to spend.

848
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: It never ends. I got a legal turf. Now it's

849
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: full circle. Got niggas like wow, everybody want to ask

850
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: me how, But I just kept path walking man, because

851
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: that's my style. And I'll leave you very nice fire

852
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: right there before we get to the high five. I

853
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on black ownership in cannabis.

854
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? Overall, it's vital, um,

855
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: it's necessary, arry Um. It's a lot of us out there,

856
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: and so we all have to get a network together

857
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: and link up with each other so we know who

858
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: we are and where we are within the space. But

859
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: it's vital. No disrespect to any other race, but Negroes

860
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: are the cannabis space. We set the trends, we set

861
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: the prices. We everybody want to wear the weed stuff

862
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: or do the weed. We got our white you know,

863
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: our white friends that do our do they thing, you know,

864
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: but black people run the space, and we're not representing

865
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: this space well at all. And we're out here, but

866
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: we just got to, you know, it's bottle that we

867
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: speak up and you know, be willing to show that

868
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: we are successful and can be successful in the space,

869
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: in a space that we should run. But they want

870
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: us to. I feel like it's even more minority said,

871
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: I really look at a lot of the farmers if

872
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: you look back in the day too, you know, even

873
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: watching some of the old cartel stuff when it went

874
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: from growing cocaine like well and ironically ready for this.

875
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: I find who grew up the same way as you

876
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: Blue guy in the game because his dad was growing

877
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: and selling as well. So everything you were describing Booze

878
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: just sitting there going and we've heard the story very

879
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: very sad and weed, so we it's just the same concept.

880
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: But my point is you look at the Latins, you know,

881
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: they used to they were growing it out in Mexico.

882
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: They're growing here, the big old bricks of it. And

883
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: then you know, of course the African American community is

884
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: heavy into it too, but it's a more minority base.

885
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: And I do be having to correct myself on that.

886
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm not saying that everything should be black, it

887
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: should be black and brown, not like I said. I

888
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: have had to correct myself on that because we are.

889
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: But the people who you see as the space aren't

890
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: either black or brown. And that's the problem. No, I

891
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: think it's you said it right though, because you know,

892
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: the question was towards you know, black minority owned businesses,

893
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: and so you're referring to your culture, you know. And

894
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you, though, is my my father,

895
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, was was very similar to yours, Like he

896
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: went to work every day. He was a postal service,

897
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: he was in the Union, you know, a military, you

898
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: know a navy, you know, so heat heat. But he

899
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: always said I'm gonna work, and and then on top

900
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: of that, make it my side hustle. It wasn't just

901
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: my hustle, you know. And I think that's the separation

902
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: between some of us that understand more of the business

903
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: side of it versus just the street side of it,

904
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of people that are that are in

905
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: our communities, they only know the street side of it,

906
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: or they kind of know this other side of it,

907
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: whereas someone like ourselves, we were kind of brought up with, hey,

908
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: it's still gotta work, you still gotta hustle. And now

909
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: that it becomes work, now it is the work and

910
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the hustle, and so it's a little more you know,

911
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: easier for us to get into the industry. And that's

912
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: money to make, because that's money to make. Yeah, this

913
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: is why I stuff like this is important, just talking

914
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: in the podcast and interviewing and getting the word out

915
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: because people can see if there are people that look

916
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: like them, talk like them, dressed like them, and act

917
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: like I got suits and ties and all that can

918
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: do all that got the for doors. I used to

919
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: sell we in a for door with shoes that made

920
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: noise at the bottom. Like I used to go to

921
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the turf dress like I was going to a goddamn club.

922
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: So you can talk to me like people need to

923
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: see people like them and could be like, damn, well

924
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: if he can do what I can do it, Yeah,

925
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: Like that's what that's what needs to be shown. It's

926
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: not just a corporate, you know, white person that's doing

927
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: a successful cannabis space. You've got the ol Harrington's you

928
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the Hope wise man,

929
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: you got the knees, you know what I mean. So

930
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: it's like you can do it. It's just the funny

931
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: thing is most of those corporate white guys who are

932
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: coming in aren't lasting very long. Well, they're spending a lot,

933
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: going crazy. I've been telling you, madman, spending way too

934
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: much money and they're doing way too much. You don't

935
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: want to listen to me, I think, um, And you

936
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: know it's not nothing against them, because I wish everybody.

937
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I wish everybody's successful, money for everybody, but high time

938
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: trying to buy out all these clubs. Why, Like, I

939
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Well, the video didn't go through.

940
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: They've been trying to buy all those sixteen farms, seventeen

941
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: dispensaries and this and that. It's just like, jeez, what

942
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: do you just read something today? I didn't read the

943
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: whole article, but I did something did I did read

944
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: something about high times? I think up in Oakland maybe

945
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: a few of the stores they were gonna buy is

946
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: in trouble now because of their corporate structure and their

947
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: ownership changes and and I don't know. I haven't dealt

948
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: with Oakland's regulations yet. We don't have a client in

949
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: that area as far as storefronts go, so I don't

950
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: know what they read into. But the whole things on

951
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: paper stock options, which who knows what they're even gonna

952
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: be whatever. Basically, um, they have bs b S paperworking

953
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: practices and like you said, the ownership changes, and the

954
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: thing is the eputy program. We are currently there supposed

955
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: to be four equity dispensaries open before they just did

956
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: the most recent drawing. We're the only one open. So

957
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: did the other one sail their licenses? Did they? Are

958
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: they trying to get places and haven't happy yet. We're

959
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: talking about we've been open two years, we've had the

960
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: license since the beginning of eighteen, How are no none

961
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: of the other ones open? So they run into that

962
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: because one of the screenstries they were trying to buy

963
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: was one of the ones were an equity owner gave

964
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: or whatever his license or whatever they had going on

965
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: to have a heart. But I don't know if it's

966
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: open yet. One and then two does that make it

967
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: still a social equity against the rule? Because I was

968
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: it against the rules because in l A they're trying

969
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: to do all kinds of ship sideways with these corporations.

970
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day when they come

971
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: into my office and I look at the regulations, but

972
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I don't care what your lawyer

973
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: says or the other lawyer thinks he can do work around.

974
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: You want to have a second set of documents really

975
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: like not I don't want to work around Like dude,

976
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: put it in black and white. Let's sign you can't

977
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: do that. Three to five your term and let's go

978
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: get money. But you gotta have education to be able

979
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: to have some conversation. What we're with Tucky blunts from

980
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Blunts and more Oakland, California, and it is time for

981
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: the High five. Were gonna give these five? Brother you ready?

982
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: Question number one? Ready? I know you said you started young,

983
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: but how old are the first time you smoked weed?

984
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: And where'd you get it from? In the town thirteen?

985
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: And I got it from we were at a like

986
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: a graduation party, but like middle school. And one of

987
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: my homeboys has some weed, probably got from one of

988
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: his brothers. That's always good. What is your favorite way

989
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: to use cannabis? I prefer to roll up a nice

990
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: five two grams with a little bit of a little

991
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: bit of wax or something only shout out to burn.

992
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: Um good dude, we've had a good talk working on

993
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: some good ship. But um yeah, I like I'm old school.

994
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I used to like to roll like Swishers, But once

995
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: I got the little roller, the cookies roller, and I

996
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: can roll a joint. Give me papers all day vibes.

997
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: Question number three of the High five. Craziest place you've

998
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: ever used or smoked cannabis? My dispensary. We were closed,

999
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: but to be able to smoke at my legal turf. Yeah,

1000
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. Congratulation really is that had to

1001
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: be one of those good feelings like you were just

1002
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: about to lie, Like, what the fun we are? I

1003
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: went to jail when I was a kid. This is that?

1004
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: That's what's your code? Like I'm thirteen blocks from where

1005
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I called my case. I'm in the same zio I

1006
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: called my case in and then right back to the pole.

1007
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: But y'all gotta hear this. Ogland got beat up all

1008
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: the ship with all the break ins, all blah blah

1009
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: blah blah. So we've been on the phone with police

1010
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: all the different experence we owners. The cop who was

1011
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: leading the investigation on trying to cancel everything and stop

1012
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: all the stuff is the same cop who arrested me,

1013
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: and you're working with him, and he, man, what can

1014
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: we do a fon Joe? How can we help? How

1015
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: can we get this start? You're like, motherfucker? You know

1016
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: how you can? You send him a box to chocolate

1017
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: because if he hadn't gotten that case gotten arrested me.

1018
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: But we've talked about that. But that just goes to

1019
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: show like this all, even talking to y'all at this

1020
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: time on this day, everything was meant to following place

1021
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: and was meant to falling place. Being number four of

1022
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: the high five with Tucky Blunt, a k a owner

1023
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: of blunts and more. Question number four, what is your

1024
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: go to munchies after you get high? A warm honey

1025
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: bun and some nestly quick starberry milk. That just takes

1026
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: me back to jail. When you say honey bun, I

1027
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in red Wood City, A big giant

1028
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: honey bun warm, you just leave the hole, just egg

1029
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: little pieces that just are good. And number five, if

1030
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who

1031
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: would it be? My grandmother the first person whoever took

1032
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: me to a cannabis dispensary. She tell us that story.

1033
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I gotta hear? At nineteen I

1034
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: used to always take my granning around around her errands.

1035
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: That my granning right here, se um, she hurt. My

1036
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: dispensary is about five blocks in her house, same street,

1037
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: but about the five blocks of difference. But one of

1038
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: her errands to take me to a store. When I

1039
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: pulled up nineteenth the telegraph downtown Opland, came out with

1040
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: a white bag. I'm like, what's that? Grain? Is? She

1041
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: like as weed? I'm like you I mean she smoked.

1042
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: We all you know, I'm like, you bought weed out

1043
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: of a store. She said, yeah, I saw I want

1044
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: one of these, and this was and I started working

1045
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: at my first dispensary at the end of ninety nine.

1046
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: But I told her then I wanted to dispensary. Never

1047
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: knew this would happened, but he would love to smoke

1048
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: with drum with her right now in my parking lot.

1049
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Your grandma, your first dispensary, illegal dispensery. But still that's great. Great.

1050
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: Did you see grandma smoking weed or you just knew

1051
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: her smoking weed? Yeah? No, d every like when they

1052
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: had parties and cookouts and stuff at the house and

1053
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: they're playing dominoes. I'm peeping through the thing. They're just smoking.

1054
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: She liked to run her papers. She grew weed before. Like, yeah, no,

1055
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: weed is prevalent in my in my family. So I

1056
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: guess Bloody Blunt was the perfect last name. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1057
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: tacky man, we want to thank you for being on

1058
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one and uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: do appreciate you and we're supporters of you. Anything else

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Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, the man just shout

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Speaker 1: sure you touch based us and Craig can probably touch

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Speaker 1: you for being our show man. It's kind of the

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