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Speaker 1: the Monday Morning Podcast. One of my faves that keep

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Speaker 1: to leave joins us in about seven eight minutes. I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of thoughts over. I watched every single

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Speaker 1: NFL preseason game, and let's just go into the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: because that's what most of us were drawn to. The quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So for the sake of this rant, let's include Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love in the rookie quarterbacks, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Sack Wilson, mac Jones, and Jordan Love since he didn't

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Speaker 1: dress last year, I thought of those six, five had

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Speaker 1: moments of brilliance. And mac Jones maybe in the perfect situation.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has a terribly highest ceiling. But

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Speaker 1: New England's not going to ask him to do things

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Speaker 1: that the Bears are going to ask Justin Fields to

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Speaker 1: do behind a fairly patchwork offensive line. They just brought

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Speaker 1: in Jason Peters. So let's start with Justin Fields six, three, two,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight sizes, fine, arms, excellent. I think what you're

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Speaker 1: going to see without offensive line and really limited skill

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Speaker 1: emerging young wide receiver talent. Cole Comets a very good

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Speaker 1: have one running back who got dinged up. They don't

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Speaker 1: they're going to lean on Justin Fields a lot. A

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Speaker 1: source I trust told me that he struggled this first

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Speaker 1: receivers can get themselves open. He's going to look downfield

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Speaker 1: and if the first or second option isn't there, he's

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Speaker 1: going to flush out to the right and run a lot.

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Speaker 1: The good news is he'll make a lot of plays,

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Speaker 1: a lot of plays. He looked a little nervous early,

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Speaker 1: but he's a huge talent and I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to start game one. Trey Lance, I thought he looked

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Speaker 1: as good as any of them. Not a shock. He's

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Speaker 1: got arguably the best offensive coach and the best roster.

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Speaker 1: That's something we have to add context to this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I watch Jacksonville play Cleveland. Does Jacksonville have

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Speaker 1: two starters that would start for Cleveland? Does Jacksonville have

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Speaker 1: five starters on their second team that would start for Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just a total physical mismatch in some

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Speaker 1: of these games. So Trey Lance, the Niners have a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl roster and a super Bowl coach. I thought

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Speaker 1: Trey looked great. I also think that offense is complex.

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Speaker 1: He'll continue to grow. I think Garoppolo starts the season.

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Speaker 1: He has a very lively arm, super athletic, great size.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, he is the one quarterback that

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Speaker 1: I think has a chance to advance in his first

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Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. Trey Lance could be the starting

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Speaker 1: largely because of what's around him. Listen, Veteran quarterbacks need help.

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Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks need more help. But I think Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: It's a bad team. It's a complete utter gut job.

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Speaker 1: It is a remodel, it's a rehab. He made two

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Speaker 1: great throws against a far superior roster. Cleveland's got a

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Speaker 1: gonna win about six games. Urban Meyer needs one more

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Speaker 1: whiffed on the Saints. He thinks it's a seven win team.

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Speaker 1: New England's offense. That's what it is. It's New England's

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Speaker 1: He said, you say coach on the field. But this situation,

424
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Speaker 1: you really really almost got like a coach on the field. Man.

425
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: That's how well he knows schemes and he knows defenses.

426
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Speaker 1: He know pre snap stuff. So I think it'll work, man,

427
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: I think that'd be good. And then they got they

428
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: got a badass defense to play with two man that

429
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: always helped. Well, yeah, you're not in shootouts every week,

430
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Speaker 1: right like he was in Detroit. Now you faced him

431
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: how many times Matt Stafford in your career because you

432
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Speaker 1: did a lot of AFC stuff, so you probably didn't

433
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Speaker 1: face him a ton. I think I faced him twice.

434
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Speaker 1: I think I faced him, you know, I think twice.

435
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I say twice. How'd you do? Oh solid? I mean

436
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: the first time, I think he threw a bunch of

437
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Speaker 1: deep ball to Calvin. Man. I got a lot of

438
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Speaker 1: safety health. It was jump balls me and Calvin. Calvin

439
00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns that game. One was in two man,

440
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: are safety leaning to the tight end pedigrew when we

441
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: got Calvin Johnson over here? Don't lean the pedigrew when

442
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson is over here with me, right, And then

443
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: it was a hitching goal too, So you know, not

444
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: all the way my fault that was like twenty yards,

445
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and one was the hurry up, the hurry up quick

446
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: fade that's on the highlight every time you see highlights

447
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: on I'm on his highlight take on Calvin johnsonhighight take.

448
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: But he only had sixty six yards sixty six yards,

449
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: two touchdown. The second game he has zero touchdowns. He

450
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Speaker 1: has seventy some yards. I followed him. I followed him

451
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Speaker 1: left to right both games, so I fare pretty well.

452
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Speaker 1: And then the first game when he had two touchdowns

453
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Speaker 1: sixty six yards, I had an interception for a touchdown,

454
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Speaker 1: so I matched one of the touchdowns with him. Now Stanford, Stanford,

455
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: unlike golf, he'll let it loose, He'll take some chances.

456
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Speaker 1: You sense that, Oh definitely, Oh definitely. I played against

457
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Speaker 1: him twice and both times a few times I had

458
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Speaker 1: some great coverage. And I ain't no slouts on the

459
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: deep balls. People don't just throw me deep balls, right, Colin.

460
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: I ain't never really just got balls just thrown up

461
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Speaker 1: to me, right. Matt Stafford did. He did when I

462
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: was in Tampa. He did when I was when I

463
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: was in Denver. You know what I'm saying. I think

464
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Speaker 1: that was the year we won the Super Bowl too,

465
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Speaker 1: So this was this was lead lead you know what

466
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. He threw balls that way, man, so he's

467
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna let it go, tight windows and everything, he's gonna

468
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: let it go. So it's hard to say who's good

469
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: who's not. Um, you know, my takeaway is, let's talk

470
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones on Thursday night. So if you were Belichick

471
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Speaker 1: and you know him, you were there for years, right,

472
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: they can make two arguments. They can make the argument

473
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Speaker 1: that we don't have a ton of playmakers. We need

474
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Speaker 1: a playmaker at quarterback. Cam will give us something Mac won't.

475
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Speaker 1: Or they can make this argument as a staff at

476
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Speaker 1: keeb Okay, we're not talented enough offensively to turn the

477
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Speaker 1: ball over, right, Okay, Mac Jones more accurate, Um, get

478
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly, not gonna run around. You know,

479
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: Cam last year had picks, he has humbles. They can

480
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: make two compelling arguments. We need Camps playmaking or you

481
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: know what, we want a guy that just delivers the ball, distributes,

482
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Speaker 1: get us in and out of trouble, and then let's

483
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Speaker 1: our defense win. Your gut feeling on which way Belichick

484
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: you're around him, which way he'd go? I definitely think

485
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Speaker 1: he'd go Cam, just because I think Bill is big

486
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Speaker 1: on leadership, right, and you know, man, who's gonna who's

487
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna be the best leader in that huddle? And that's

488
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: by far Cam. So I think Bill think even though

489
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Speaker 1: mac Jones might be more accurate, he might be you know,

490
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Speaker 1: slower to throw something in the traffic and throw the

491
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Speaker 1: check down quicker than Camp. You might try not, I

492
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna miss this thing up. I might not make

493
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Speaker 1: no plays. I might not ain't gonna miss this his

494
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: name up though he know he's gonna get that. But

495
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Speaker 1: who's gonna be the best leader in his huddle? You

496
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? When things get tough, who gonna

497
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: keep the guys together? Who're gonna you know, rather the troops?

498
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: When when fourth quarter, when when they need to be rallied?

499
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Speaker 1: And you got to say that's Camp. Are you surprised

500
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Cam struggled most of last year though? But are you

501
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: surprised that the patriot culture and Cam have worked because

502
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: by and large he compliments it, Belichick compliments him. There's

503
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: been no rough spots. I mean last year he got

504
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Speaker 1: COVID in the middle of the year, So I kind

505
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Speaker 1: of gave him a pass. At the end of the year,

506
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well. Are you kind of

507
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: surprised at well? I am. I'm surprised it works. Me

508
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: being there, I'm not surprised it worked because Cam is

509
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Speaker 1: a leader. Like I said, he a great leader, and

510
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: you're not gonna outwork them. He one of them guys

511
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Speaker 1: like I might be Hollywood, I might dress like this,

512
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: but he worked hello hard like Odell. He one of

513
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: those kind of guys. May you not gonna match stay

514
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: work and shit like that. That Bill respect. You're a

515
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: leader and you worked like that. You're competitive like that.

516
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: You bow down to nobody. I compete against anybody, any whatever,

517
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: no matter whom I received. Let's go Bill respect that

518
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: man So and Cam different. Man. I'm telling you that

519
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: leadership he got is you got leaders, then you got

520
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: guys like Cam So the top nos a leader. Man,

521
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: he gonna bring guys all the way together. So Bill

522
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Speaker 1: Field had in the building. As I watched all this

523
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Speaker 1: stuff this weekend, I thought, Minnesota is going to be

524
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: a team that's going to really bounce back. I think

525
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Zimmer's a pretty good coach. They had a ton of injuries.

526
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Speaker 1: Then I watched them against Denver and God, they were atrocious.

527
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: Everything was bad, Punting was bad. Do you take if

528
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Speaker 1: I'm listening to this podcast, do you take anything from

529
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Speaker 1: the preseason to'll go back to your career. Was there

530
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Speaker 1: ever something a key that you saw in your preseason

531
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Speaker 1: and you're like it stayed with you all season? You

532
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: just never got better at it? Nah? Nah, definitely, I

533
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: don't think so. Man, preseason almost like a practice. You're

534
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: tackling guys, but it's not fullis. It's not pulls speed.

535
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: It might be pullspeed putting young guys when the starters

536
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: and stuff in there. Man, you still can't go full

537
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: speed if it ain't for all the marbles, which is

538
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: a win or a loss. You're just not gonna go

539
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: your full speed. So I don't take too much from it. Man,

540
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: guy's gonna go play hard. But you know, if they're

541
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Speaker 1: go play the same game next week, they may do

542
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: that to Denver, you know what I'm saying. So it's

543
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: more like a practice. To me, it's more like a

544
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: full speed, turned up practice. So I don't know. Denver

545
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: looked good though, Man, I didn't want to take nothing

546
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: away from Denver, don't That's what I don't want to

547
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: do on here. I want to take it away from Denver.

548
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Drew Locke looked great, the play cars looked great, the

549
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: old line looked great. Man. So I don't want to

550
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: take nothing away from those guys. Those guys came out

551
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: and did what they posted to y'all think with the

552
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: underdogs were planned. They came out and punched them boys

553
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: in their face. So, but that's that's kind of how

554
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: practice is. Like if you when you had those joint practices,

555
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: usually this is how they go. So look, whoever, like

556
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: the you know, the Alpha team, they usually come out

557
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: and beat the shit out of the other team in

558
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: perfect Then the next day they kind of get off

559
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the gas and that other team underdog team and kin

560
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: beat the ass. The next day then the Alpha team

561
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: and kind of beat the ass and then go back

562
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Speaker 1: and get on the bus like, yeah, we beat all

563
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: lass last what I'm saying. Then usually play them in

564
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: the game, and you usually the APPHA team used to

565
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: beat their ass in that game, so it just kind

566
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: of went the opposite. This time. They kind of went

567
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: back and forth and practice and then when they shut

568
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: up to the game, the underdog team came out with

569
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: all the energy and Rundom Boys off the field. So

570
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: so you're gonna do work with Gus Johnson this year

571
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: for Fox and you sound so one of the reasons

572
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: we hired you at the volume because I said, nobody

573
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: sounds like a keyb on the air. He's very raw

574
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: and authentic, and all these analysts, a lot of them

575
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: just sound alike. They're safe, they're predictable. So when you

576
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: did a game last year, I remember you had this

577
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: suit on. People were talking about your suit, they were

578
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: talking about your style. Do you like doing games? If so, why?

579
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I do like doing games, and I like doing them

580
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: because I think it's the closest that you get to

581
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: playing without without playing. I mean maybe coaching, right, because

582
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: I coached my little my son team they eight years old.

583
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: But like when the game in there, it's like I

584
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: want to go play, but I can't play. So you

585
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: gotta you like in the game, right, So I say,

586
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: you're playing you in the game coaching. That's the closest

587
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the playing in the game. And

588
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: then when you're in that box, I feel like that's

589
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: the next that's the that's the third step. That's the

590
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: closest you're gonna get if you ain't playing their coaching.

591
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: That's the closest you can get to the game because

592
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you like the voice of the game man. So you

593
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: you full speed, You in it, You in it with

594
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: the players, and you know, we gotta, we gotta, we

595
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: love that. We addicted to that. So I still get

596
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: that fixed. Does the game move faster or slower to

597
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: you when you broadcast it? Oh, it moved faster. Right now.

598
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm a rookie. I'm a young guy, so I don't

599
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: I guess in the league they say you're still a

600
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: rookie till you played like four games or something, right,

601
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: So I ain't called four game, So I'm still a rookie,

602
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it goes so fast

603
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: in that booth football, you should go slow to me,

604
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: especially by year five, year six, it was slow. You

605
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: did the Chargers rams. Give me one or two moments

606
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: or one or two players you took from that game

607
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: that you liked that you're worried about. Is there anything

608
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: that one or two things in that game either side

609
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: that jumped out to you. Well, Josh Palmer from the Chargers,

610
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: he came out and was huge, just his his physique.

611
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I just looked at him like, damn, he got the

612
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: single digit on and you know, I don't know, the

613
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: single digit is making guys look look huge right now.

614
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: So he had the pile on and I just imagine

615
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, him and Keenan that's a that's a bad

616
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: receiving corps right there. Man were the old line man

617
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: and on the other side of Jacob Harris the tight end.

618
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I just seen his movement live. That was my first

619
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: time seeing him in person, seeing his movement, saying his size,

620
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: they make it seem like it say, you know, six

621
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Speaker 1: five two nineteen make it seem like he's a real

622
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: like receiver, skinny kind of guy. But he actually got

623
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: some size. He here tight end. What I'm saying, you

624
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: could next year you would be ten pounds heavier. You're

625
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: a real tight end. So and he got worked. He

626
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: really got some routes in the red zone. He really

627
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: couldn't feel a void that the rams really don't have

628
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, a jump ball targeting the

629
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Speaker 1: red zone. Just I like, I liked those two things

630
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Speaker 1: leaving that game. By the way, you have a great

631
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: eye for talent. So Tom Telesco is a friend of mine,

632
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: the Charger GM, and when they drafted Palmer, he said,

633
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee didn't have a very robust offense, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Calvin Johnson played with a quarterback in college

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Speaker 1: that didn't throw the ball terribly well. But we all

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Speaker 1: knew Calvin was great. But Palmer I said this when

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Speaker 1: they got drafted, I said, don't be shocked if he's

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Speaker 1: he's a Rookie of the Year candidate. So he popped

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Speaker 1: out to you first game you saw him, first game,

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Speaker 1: I see him. They targeted him like five or six

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Speaker 1: times early, and he just he just looked, I'm ahead

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Speaker 1: of it. I'm ahead of the guys who in the

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Speaker 1: game right now. I'm just a little bit ahead of y'all.

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Speaker 1: You know. I just looked comfortable. His moves, catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: get up feel. He ain't really catching them down field,

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Speaker 1: but he was just in that. He was active, he

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Speaker 1: was working, and that's I already seen him. Already seen

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Speaker 1: what he do on fifty balls in college, so I

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Speaker 1: know he could do that. And just his confidence and

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Speaker 1: how he moved in his side, that's what jumped out

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Speaker 1: to me. Do you remember your first preseason game? Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. You know I made my first attacker.

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Speaker 1: Uh it was on Ricky Williams. Attacker Ricky Win. My

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Speaker 1: first person attacked the NFL was Ricky Williams. Shout his

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Speaker 1: legs out. They had to you know, Cracker Place, the

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Speaker 1: receiver want to go crack. So I had to come

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Speaker 1: off Cracker Place, went down to the outside, hit them legs,

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Speaker 1: took them legs out. Nice little attacker to like shit.

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Speaker 1: NFL films got it. I think I was miked up

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Speaker 1: with something that's funny that you remember that. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: remember it like it was yesterday. So here, here we

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Speaker 1: go into another season. Give me your AFC NFC championship.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it on tape. I'm gonna go I like Um.

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Speaker 1: I like Buffalo a lot. I'm gonna It's not that

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Speaker 1: I don't like Kansas City. They're everybody's favorite. I think Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is gonna be a handful. I think

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's gonna be a handful. I think the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: gonna surprise people. You know it's not gonna be Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Kansas City because it's never the teams we think right,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna go outside the box. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: crazy here, Chargers, Bills, AFC, throw me out. What do

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Speaker 1: you got? Oh mon day, I'm stocks was following I

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the preseason game Monday. Stock Is followed

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Speaker 1: down and see colleague Chris Stiams was on my ass

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Speaker 1: us socks bro, I see what let me get off

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Speaker 1: that preseason game? Look, uh ac Chip, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Browns. I got no problem with it, Chiefs Browns,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham comes back, great offensive line, Baker finally has

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Speaker 1: a legitimate head coach. K NFC. They got the pieces

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Speaker 1: to play Joe Woods defense. Joe Woods super super super

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Speaker 1: similar to Wave Phillips. You see, he went and got

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Speaker 1: He went and got Commar, John Johnson, Camaro, Troy. He

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Speaker 1: just got some bodies in his secondary. He got some

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Speaker 1: more cover guys, camarre lewsom here a man guy, Camar.

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Speaker 1: He got guys who really hit the description of that

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Speaker 1: Joe Woods defense. I think that defense is gonna be

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Speaker 1: totally different this year. Let's go to the NFCUM you

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Speaker 1: have to take Tampa simply because they have the best roster.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's not a complete team. I my gut feeling is

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Speaker 1: when Cam Akers got hurt. The Rams are missing a

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Speaker 1: leg on the bar stool. They just don't have a

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Speaker 1: running game. I'll probably Seattle Tampa, is my guest. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Seattle is a complete team. I still have

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Speaker 1: questions on the interior of the offensive line, but I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, I do think Russell Wilson just

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Speaker 1: wins so many close games. I'd go Seattle Tampa. What

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Speaker 1: would be your call, Seattle Tampa. H Let me get

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Speaker 1: outside the box a little bit, man, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I like that West. I think somebody definitely got to

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Speaker 1: represent in the West. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Tampa. Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I like Arizona to catch fire man. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny last two years, as they were

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Speaker 1: in a rebuild, Arizona's given the Seahawks, the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Niners fits in a total rebuild. They know how

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Speaker 1: to play them guys. So so as okay, as coaches

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Speaker 1: been over there, right he went, he doing good in

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Speaker 1: the division. So you know how to play his division.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the most important thing. Married things come

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Speaker 1: around one year, you would catch fire. As long as

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Speaker 1: you know how to win in your division. You you

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Speaker 1: in good shape, and that's what he's doing. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: also think that division could largely be dictated by who's healthiest.

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Speaker 1: But the healthy team may just win. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's you know, if Garoppolo goes down early and Trey's

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Speaker 1: got to play, that's not ideal. Right. If Dwayne Brown

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Speaker 1: got hurt left tackle for Seattle, that's a battle line overnight, exactly,

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Speaker 1: all right, to keep as as always. Great stuff, man, God,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, all right, buddy, take care. We have

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