WEBVTT - Consumption Junction 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'll that for me. I'm 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.640 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:16.040 for day Edith State? Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.000 and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.159 My name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always my 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.480 man over there in New York City, the one, the 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:32.440 only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? I'm good? Is 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.199 it strange to say because we haven't recorded in like 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.200 a week and a half. Yeah, it's been a while. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.199 I miss you. I mean we talk every day. I 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.160 don't think it's not in this weird. I'd be hurt 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.160 if you didn't miss me. Good. We're on the same page, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.760 especially because one, we have a ton of news to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.360 talk about. Two, we've got a couple of G five 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.120 games from we're recording this Sunday midday to talk about. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.280 Three we have a show that I can't believe we 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.840 haven't done sooner in terms of theme and Q and 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.720 A and topic. And I mean, if you've downloaded this, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.160 you've seen the title and you know that at least 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.720 part of this episode is dedicated to in the name 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.440 of our Google document is consumption junction. Assumption junction, Yeah, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:24.320 which would be a great name for like a discount bar. Yes, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.840 so we have and we tend to focus on FBS teams. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.760 So we've got a buffet of like one hundred and 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.880 thirty one I don't know the number actually right now. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.800 After we've got a couple of new entrants I believe 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.480 this year. So it's a buffet ty, yeah, And we 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.160 are all just trying to figure out how to strategize 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.360 and consume effectively. And by that we mean how do 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.760 we watch? What do we watch? Where do we watch? 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.960 You know, what do we pay to watch? And what 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.480 do we eat? Where do we go to eat? How 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.400 do we find things to make to eat? This idea, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.360 Dan is a wheelhouse subject for both of us. I'm 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.560 so excited. Where is a wheelhouse subject for us here 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.800 hosting the soliverbal Because we've been doing this show. This 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.520 is going to be our tenth I guess, full season 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.239 doing the show. We're starting our eleventh season of podcasts, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.120 but our tenth full season of doing the podcast. So 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.360 we've picked up a few pro tips along the way, 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 many of which I'm very excited to share, some of 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.480 which I don't think I've ever mentioned on the program before. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.400 So this gives us an opportunity to not only talk 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.760 about how we consume football, but read aloud how some 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.720 of the people that listen to our show also consume 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.519 college football. So we got that we're going to talk 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.880 about in a little bit. We've also got some important 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.000 news that we're going to get through, and also a 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.480 few housekeeping notes. So first and foremost, there is going 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.760 to be a Pickum game this year. I am in 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.280 the process of making that happen, but Week one will 0:02:55.280 --> 0:03:00.400 not be available until likely sometime on Wednesday. I know 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.919 we've had thousands of people that join our groups every 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.679 year when we pick these games. Just stand pat, it's 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.320 going to be out there. Before you know it. A 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.600 new and improved game will be coming your way, which 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.600 you can access via soliverbal dot com. So look forward 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.239 to that. We'll post more certainly out on all of 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.720 our social media platforms. The second thing more of a 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.120 technical housekeeping note for me that I am working on. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:25.839 But we do have a lot of people who listen 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:30.480 on Spotify, and for some odd reason, at first our 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:35.120 podcast noted at some point this weekend that it was 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:41.560 last updated December thirty first, nineteen sixty nine, Yes, which 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.760 is not at all accurate. And then it just disappeared. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.480 It went dark entirely from the service. So we'll figure 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:47.920 out what's going on and get that back up and 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.440 running in time for the year. Also, Yes, the solid 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:57.680 verbal is title exclusive title exclusive tida LS sign up 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:02.880 now four hundred dollars a month. Yes. If there's anybody 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.200 I trust to sort through all of our weird RSS 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.280 issues that aren't actually not our faults. No, I assume 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.680 it's Tie Hill. We will will. We will get this 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.000 up and running before long, I promise, Daniel. Should we 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.839 get into our news's let's talk news, as you know, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:26.240 we do have some briggant news. Yeah, Zach Anikstad has 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.719 been named the starter at Minnesota. Well, that's not what 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.039 I want to talk about. So we haven't done a 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.039 show in a week and a half. You've been, what 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.400 enjoying summer working doing all that sort of stuff. I've 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.599 been working, and I was in Maine for a few 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:45.240 days and a few days ago in Maine, I was 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.400 in Maine at about I want to say nine pmsh 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.440 Eastern time, there was a press conference in Columbus, Ohio, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.640 the gist of which was an announcement that urban Meyer 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.720 was going to be suspended for three games. Risk can 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.320 still coach during the week after Week one for his 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:09.960 handling or mishandling of the Zack Smith situation, the receiver's 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.920 coach at Ohio State who has recently let go after 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:19.160 a trespassing violation that resulted from or as a result 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.960 of a twenty fifteen court order in which he was 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:27.560 accused of things not arrested related to domestic violence and misconduct. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.840 And then also the two thousand and nine arrest of 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.440 Zack Smith that was not at all flagged by Ohio State, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:41.400 and everything was just sort of covered up effectively publicly 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.040 for a while until recently and the group, the investigative 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.560 group at Ohio State found that ern Meyer did a 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.599 number of things incorrectly, as well as Gene Smith, the 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.080 athletic director at Ohio State, incorrectly, both of whom have 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.320 been suspended ish yes, she's a good way to put that. Yeah, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:03.600 thank you, but their jobs at Ohio States, which came 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.080 as a surprise to many people. It brought out the 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.520 worst in the worst of Ohio State fans and some 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.039 really logical and human reactions from the best of Ohio 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:21.360 State fans. So what was your reaction, you know, given 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.560 the new information that came to light from the investigation 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.480 and the punishment, and how thorough the punishment seems to you, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.920 or how light that punishment seems to you, or something 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.840 in between. Yeah, I mean my first reaction was we 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.920 shouldn't paint all Ohio State supporters with the broadbrush, because 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.080 there were some of the worst of the worst out there. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.920 But also I thought a lot of folks who were 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.360 just embarrassed about it and quite frankly didn't know how 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.360 to feel because it's their team. At the same time, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 they're not very comfortable with the way things went down 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.800 here as part of this investigation, so we have to 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:01.200 call that out. Look, the press conference was this, Yes, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.839 it was a disaster. Whoever was the point person on 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.480 running comms for that operation did a pretty bad job. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.520 It was a complete disaster. The way that they went 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.640 about it, it came across as very shady, totally separate 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.960 from whatever may or may not have gone on. The 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.480 press conference did not do Ohio State any favors. So 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.280 then you had other stuff coming out about text messages 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.840 maybe being deleted, and I have a long list here 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.280 of just oddities that I think we found out either 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.640 at the press conference or after the press conference. None 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.960 of that stuff plays well for Ohio State. Certainly, Ohio 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.040 State had grounds to fire him if they wanted to 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.320 be they chose not to, and they didn't want to. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.040 They didn't want to. They went into this not wanting 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.720 to fire him because exactly they weighed his value versus 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:59.280 the value of moving on from him, and you know, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.080 the goodwill perhaps that would have given them publicly, and 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.560 they decided, you know, or I don't think it was 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.119 a decision. I think they went into the investigation saying, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.040 how do we do something? And they said, as much, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.760 how do we do something with this investigation to appease everybody, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.440 Not how do we go into this investigation to do 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.600 the right thing, but how do we do this so 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.640 everybody is satisfied. They didn't want to get rid of them, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.880 They didn't end up getting rid of them. And I 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.000 think that much came across in the press conference, and 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.400 it really did represent a lot of what the stereotype 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.200 is for college football. What's wrong in college football, this 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.400 whole coach as king mentality. So yes, you know, look, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.360 I'm curious to see how this plays long term, just 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.280 in terms of, you know, how people view Ohio State 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.120 moving forward. If the backlash that we saw on Wednesday 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.480 continues throughout the season, a really bad look for Ohio State, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.960 it still feels like the beginning of the end for 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.080 Urban Meyer at Ohio State, even if, yeah, a little bit, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.760 there is a sense that this is going to and 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.720 this is college football and high level college sports, so 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.960 you can't just say without any hesitation that this is 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:16.320 going to just linger with Ohio State. Because we've seen 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:22.760 other situations where people move on. This specific situation paints 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:28.760 Urban Meyer terribly. Sure, it paints Ohio State terribly. And 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.480 Andy Stables had a good line in his piece after 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.880 the fact that when such an obviously smart person is 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.679 trying to a paraphrasing here, convince everybody that he's stupid, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:45.120 that's problematic. Yeah, I mean the selective memory thing, consulting 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.520 with people to try and delete text messages, didn't knowingly 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.120 lie that, like all that stuff definitely has an error 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.160 shadiness to it. And so yes, yeah, if we find 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.120 out three years from now that this was the beginning 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.559 of the end for urban Meyer. I don't think it 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.480 would be a surprise to any of us. No, and 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.960 I you know, you could get a situation where he says, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.360 I think it's best for everybody that I step aside 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.040 for the good of the universe, you know, one of 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.520 the maybe after the year, maybe after next year, something 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.600 like that, where this is going to on whatever level 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.520 stay with him publicly. It is one of those things 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.679 where it's very convenient that one he had the memory lapse. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.000 That's fine. There is medication that can affect memory. That's 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:30.280 incredible that this coincides with him not remembering things at 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.920 media day when he spoke to the public. The text 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.760 message thing. If you didn't see that, there was a report, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.400 it's in the investigation, not even a report. It's investigated 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.319 that he asked a staffer how to delete all old 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.319 text messages after a year in the wake of the 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.840 Brett McMurphy story. When that broke and you know this 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.800 it it doesn't automatically say ooh, he's trying to hide something. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.080 But when it's a university owned phone, that can be 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.920 that the text can be retrieved. Whatever investigative method, the 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.800 foy or whatever. There is something of like he could 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.240 in his head say, I understand they're gonna come after this. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.600 There's nothing that will implicate me about this situation, but 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.360 there are other situations I'd rather not bring to light 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.520 something like that. It is hard to suspend disbelief that 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.720 he did not have conversations with his wife about the 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.040 situation in twenty fifteen years beforehand. There is a degree 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.360 of mental gymnastics that needs to take price here to 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.040 completely believe everything that Ohio State has been selling. And 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.080 so there are That's what I have the hardest part 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.920 dealing with you. I'm always skeptical of any internal investigation, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.679 and this is a big part of the reason why, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.960 because he gets stuff like this. The other ironic point 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.880 that I'll bring up here and then I'm perfectly fine 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.760 moving on. Zach Smith wasn't all that great of a 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.640 wide receiver's coach to begin with. It was a personal 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.000 connection that kept him there. I would pause it. He 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.600 was flat out bad. He was not professional in his demeanor, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.280 not prompt, he was not he didn't he was not 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:09.320 forthcoming about issues. Everybody looks terrible from this situation that 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.520 you know there are facts that you know, there was. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.520 Urban Meyer claims that he and his wife met with 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.920 Courtney Smith in two thousand and nine at Florida and 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.840 then she was like, I never met with urban Meyer, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.960 absolutely not, I never recanted anything, and that they convinced 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.640 her then not to press charges. Jean Smith, for the 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.800 second time has hired a head or has hired a 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.240 coach without a background check. At at Iowa State in 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.800 the nineties with Dan McCartney, he had domestic violence issues 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.240 that they just didn't know about. They just did not 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.960 know about. And now at at Ohio State, it was 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.600 you know, Andy wrote about Andy Staples that twenty four 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.920 dollars gets you a background check on anybody in the 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.320 state of Florida and just didn't do it. And urban 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.520 Meyer was not forthcoming about Zack Smith when he hired 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.000 him to Jean Smith. You know, urban Meyer and Jean 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.600 Smith were not at all forthcoming with compliance at Ohio State. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:04.000 And so if nothing else, urban Meyer is incompetent as 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:10.240 a corporate leader, as a leader of men, as somebody 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:15.320 who is public facing and represents an enormous school. And 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.720 he's Ohio State's coach, and there are probably a ton 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.440 of other coaches who would not do any better. But 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.120 urban Meyer is not new to this. Urban Meyer knows 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:31.240 the game and it this will be whenever he decides 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.920 to retire. This is what will join him in that retirement. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.280 This story and his actions or in action, and that 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.240 a college football coach is part of my language. Full 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.319 of shit, nothing new, nothing unique to Ohio State, nothing 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.920 unique to Urban Meyer, but there is something. And I 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.240 will only speak for myself here, but I think I 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.400 have a pretty good understanding from doing this show and 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.000 covering the sport for a while. It's one of those 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.840 things where we love the sport because of, in no 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.640 particular order, the actual football and the stories and the 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.080 players and the plays and the matchups and the rivalry 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.760 and the culture of you know, tailgating and food and 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.000 traditions and marching bands and traveling and friendships over this. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.600 You know's there's no better sport than college football that 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.560 has a cultural element in America. But when these types 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.720 of stories come to light, you're like, there's a certain 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.040 amount of disbelief that you have to have with the sport. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:31.720 There are issues, whether it's monetary, whether it's administrative, whatever 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.960 the case may be. Competitive that you just have to 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.840 ignore or get past or make peace with. And this 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.440 is one of those stories that really like you're trying 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.560 to like kick things under the rug, and this is 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.480 one of those stories that just sits on your table. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.160 And that's what sucks about this, because you know, you 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.360 want to believe the people that coach your teams or 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.480 that coach teams that you enjoy watching or run these 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:01.120 teams are doing so because they love it and that 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:02.840 they want to do right by the people that work 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.680 with them and under them and for them whatever. And man, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.880 this is a pretty big blow to that. And if 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.200 he were fired, by the way, fine by me. Totally fine. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.560 Speaking of which, let's go to Maryland. What's going on 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.080 at Maryland? So DJ Durkin's been on leave since I 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.560 want to say, August eleventh, head coach because of an 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.960 investigation into Jordan McNair, the offensive lineman who tragically passed 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:30.960 away during an early summer workout, and the investigation is ongoing. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.760 They got rid of the strength coach and they're investigating 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.840 the culture of Maryland looking into whether or not it 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:41.360 has become toxic and awful two athletes, especially football players, 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.560 and in the wake of all of that, there was 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.440 a story that former athletic director Kevin Anderson helped to 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.960 use school funds to hire a lawyer to represent two 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.280 former football players who were accused of sexual misconduct. And 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.000 then turns out it was DJ Durkin himself who steered 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.280 school funds to the lawyer to represent these two athletes, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.000 which is obviously a pretty big conflict. Not to say, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.760 if you're accused of a crime, you shouldn't hire representation, 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.600 but when the school's investigating and paying for the defense, 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.680 it's pretty bad. So that investigation is ongoing. I can 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.320 imagine DJ dark and as coaching another game from Maryland. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.720 You have a list of newly named starting quarterbacks, so 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.760 we should run through very brief Yes, no easy way 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.600 to transition, but in no particular order. But the last 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.760 one's going to be my favorite. Obviously, Blake Barnett is 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.400 the starter at USF. Makes sense should have the talent 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.760 to run that. It should be a good option there 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:43.320 for Charlie Strong and USF Shaye Patterson. We've talked about nauseum. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.400 This is I'm we are not That's the last time 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.280 we're saying his name on this show today. Okay, b 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.920 Yu Tanner Mangam is back. He's going to start Tanner 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:57.920 Mangum yep. Arthur Sidkowski the true freshman at Rutgers, Arthur King, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.440 Arthur Yeah, I really hope he does well well for 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.840 Chris ash and Scarlett Knights wake Forest, Sam Hartman, Well, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.159 you know, the Wolford wagon is a tough wagon to follow. Tye, 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.800 you know this. I know this true freshman Adrian Martinez 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.680 from California is the starter at Nebraska. Do you remember 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.080 the Pivotal People episode A Pivotal People. I think we 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.159 had Adrian Martin Martinez. This guy right here had Adrian 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.360 Martinez on that list. So true freshman Scott Frost. Of course, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.040 Mackenzie Milton was put into action as a true freshman 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.520 in mariot at Oregon as a red shirt freshman, different circumstances. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.120 Zach Ennixstad true freshman walk on from the IMG Academy 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.280 named the starter at Minnesota for PJ. Fleck, I don't 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.520 have a lot of strong thoughts, but Minnesota within a 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.920 year and a half, that offense at least there could 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.520 be some feist to it. Tie pluckiness. I told you, 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:51.160 I told you, I know Indiana Peyton Ramsey notable because 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.679 it's not Brandon Dawkins, the grad transfer from Arizona. So 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.919 Peyton Ramsey back Kyler Murray officially, which we got like 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.920 a tweet or something. I don't know if it was 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.560 edit or Twitter or whatever. Like. Tie is literally the 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.080 only person that I've seen to be so obsessed with 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:10.160 the threat of Kyler Murray injury. I love that because 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.400 you're a trendsetter. Tie. Yeah, the world, I'll see that soon. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.200 I am Peyton Bender at Kansas. Not a huge surprise there. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.040 Brady White the grad transfer from Arizona State at Memphis. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:22.600 He is somebody that I would keep an eye on 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.920 in terms of pivotal people, just because he's had time 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.600 in that system. Now because you know, rejoining offensive coordinator 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.760 from Arizona State at Memphis. Sam Ellinger at Texas. Not 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.600 a huge surprise, but it's official. Brandon Wimbush, which became 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.600 sort of obvious despite I don't think you were calling 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.920 for somebody, but you were anticipating it being closer or 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:49.159 a more difficult decision than implied publicly. Yes, not well, no, 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.159 I knew it was going to be Wimbush. But okay, 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.080 I think my trepidation is more with what happens a 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.600 quarter into the Michigan game. And we know that Brian 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.280 Kelly towards the end of last year had a pretty 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.959 quick hook with Wimbush, especially in the Bowl game. So 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.520 I'm curious to see how quick that hook ends up being. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.040 Because if you listen to any of Brian Kelly's press conference, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.240 and I'm sure everybody who downloaded this show listened to 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.040 Brian Kelly's press conference where he addressed this fat but 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.360 it's very apparent that the two quarterbacks are drastically different 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.880 in skill sets. It's almost like he's not grading one 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.040 versus the other. It's more a matter of which skill 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.359 set will give them the best chance to win. I 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.680 think this has all the ingredients needed in this fine 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.320 recipe that I've drafted for my Fantasy Things about Notre 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.680 Dame quarterback questions. I think we're going to be age though, 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.960 we are going to be there sooner than later, mark 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.439 my word. By the way, the Fantasy Things Draft Live 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.359 from Chicago is up, and even listening back incredible. I 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.800 had so much fun. Even if my team gets blown out, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.720 I had we already just saw so much fun. Do 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.480 you have Jimbo Fisher Texas things I do my number 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.040 one overall. Yeah, so you already got points from that. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.399 I think he was interviewed by Marty Smith because of 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:10.440 course he was on horseback. Although little disappointed, I just 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.800 saw the picture. I haven't watched the full feature. Why 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.800 can't Marty Smith wear the helmet with the antenna that 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.720 they wear after like the triple crown, But that's what 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:24.280 I want. Yeah, And speaking of Texas, TCU named Sean 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:29.080 Robinson last year's backup starting quarterback, so as expected, nothing crazy. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:34.240 So I guess the holdouts for big quarterback announcements would 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.240 be the LA schools. I think JT. Daniels kind of 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.160 expected at USC. I would imagine Wilton Spade at least 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.920 to start the season at UCLA, but yeah, entirely possible. 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.320 I'm wrong. I haven't seen anything on Wazoo, Tennessee with 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.560 the Jerreed Quarantano and Keller Christ. I haven't seen anything 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:54.840 developed there. Florida State, nothing has been announced publicly. Clemson, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.119 we assume Kelly Bryant. I don't think anything will change there, 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.119 but I don't know if that's lasting the season. Dwayne 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.760 Haskins already been named at Ohio State, any big schools 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.840 I'm leaving out it's quarterback battle, probably, I mean Alabama 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:14.439 is obviously a big one. Yeah, probably, But yeah, I 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.360 think those are the notable ones that we discovered here 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.400 over the last week and a half or so. As 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.719 you know, these names can change pretty quickly depending on 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.840 performance and injury and a whole variety of other issues. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.520 But yeah, as of now, we have a little bit 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.520 more clarity around who's going to be starting for some 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.600 of the big teams in college football. To keep everyone 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.639 here who downloaded, and who's listening up to speed with 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.680 what our plan is. This is our first Sunday show 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.760 of correct the new season. First show. I should say 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.680 that we're actually recording on a Sunday, so Dan and 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.119 I are just kind of getting in the swing of 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.399 things here. This will be our routine now as we 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.000 move forward. On Wednesday, we're going to have our week 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.960 one preview episode where we run through all the big 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.359 notable games and give you our picks against the bread, 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.520 which you could then take if you want and use 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.959 to inform your picks in our pick a pool. And 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.200 then on Sunday next Sunday, a week from today, we 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.000 will do our Week one review show. Keep in mind 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:18.199 that there are games on Sunday night between LSU and 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.960 Miami and then again on Labor Day on Monday night 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.520 between Florida State and Virginia Tech. So we will get 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.520 to those games when we do our week two previous 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:32.040 show on Wednesday the following Wednesday. But for now anyway, 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.600 and moving forward for the foreseeable future, you can get 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.480 a brand new show from US one recorded every Sunday one, 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:44.200 recorded on every Wednesday from now through the National Championship 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.920 in the beginning part of January. And speaking of Sunday shows, 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.800 and as you mentioned, that is our recap show that'll 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.359 be up midday. We're aiming for we're going to record 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.399 a little earlier this year. So really, you know, wet 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:01.840 people's whistle? Is that the word? Yep? Wh w what what? 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.080