WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Setting Expectations 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:19.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot, 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.680 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:28.400 Dallas Cowboys Half now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:36.600 and Nicky Spagnola. Where's Mickey? Where is Mickey? For the 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:41.360 first time in those storied history of mix Shots, we 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.599 don't have Mickey delivering his weekly shots here on Mick Shots. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.800 I am Bill Jones with Everson Walls, and for the 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.199 second straight week, we've got Danny Siak filling in I 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.400 guess for Mickey. This week she filled it. I mean, 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.280 I didn't do a half bad job, I guess. Or 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.360 maybe you're so desperate to film Mickey spotless. You know what, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.720 she's here. Let's just let's bring her back. It'll be fine. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:08.000 Let's looking at you as much better this time in 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.760 the morning, you know what I'm saying. Anytime, let's just 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.039 be honest. Well, we got so much to talk about, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.920 you know what. It is now a new month. All 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.080 of a sudden, it's June first, and the Cowboys. We 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.640 can say this. The Cowboys are out on the practice 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.800 field after a long weekend and it's the second week 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.160 of OTAs and before you know it, mini camp will 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.280 be here next week and the off season will be over. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.559 It like starts one week and it's over the next 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.800 week anymore. And I was out the size and the 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.600 guys up, Oh were you? Yeah? I was kind of 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.400 fantasizing a little bit, and then Danny came and got 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.800 me out of it. You know, hey, that was what 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.600 you're looking at. I was like, you know, I think 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.040 I could take these guys, you know, uh huh yeah, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.560 just initially I thought that, and then I've snapped out 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.040 of it. Yeah, yeah, sorry, my bad. That's okay. We'll 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.480 start without you. Well, we're gonna try to make do 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.080 without Mickey somehow, some way. And I don't remember call 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.720 what Mickey said he was doing this week. He's doing 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.160 something that really doesn't matter. We won't we won't even 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.000 hear about it, whatever it is. Once I find a 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.399 phone number, we can take phone calls too. Did y'all 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.520 take any phone calls last week? We did? We took one. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.880 We took one, okay, had one caller. Well, maybe Mickey'll 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:27.960 call him that all the calls are going to come 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.399 from us, that's right. How is your Memorial Day weekend? 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.079 I was gonna say, man, we would just blessed this weekend. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.720 What we just with the weather. I had a great weekend. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.680 I hope you guys did too, hanging out with both. Okay, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.800 so what is your ideal weather day? Because yesterday it 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.840 was raining, Like, oh no, that was no But I'm 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:52.239 talking about Friday, Saturday beautiful days, right, yeah, beautiful days. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.840 We had some events, of course, graduations was this weekend. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.000 And my sister in law is like, we keep calling them. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:03.040 We've elevated her her her position on the school board. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.400 Because we don't know exactly what she does. We just 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.440 said she's the president, that's all. We just called it 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.400 the president of the school board of Richardson School. I 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.760 know that she's the first African American on the Richardson 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.519 School board in their history. Wow. And she's been doing 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.720 a lot of work. And of course, her son, Brian, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.560 he graduated this past weekend, so her signature is on 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.959 his diploma and that very cool. And she presented him 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.440 with his diploma as he walked across the stage. So 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.880 you can imagine she, you know, tried to play it 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.520 off and be all cool and gave it to her. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.320 Then she just runs up and hugs him on the neck. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.240 And so which high school did he go to? Richardson 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:47.840 High School of yours? They were no rival, They were 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.840 no rival on that field. They were the Richardson Eagles Field. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.640 I torched them. Yeah, yeah, I killed him. Yeah, okay, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.240 well yeah they played Eagle Mustang Stadium, Richardson Stadium and 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.520 Rego Wildcat Wildcat Ram. Yeah we're sharing with Lake Hilands. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.000 Just be Lake Highlands too. Yeah. Man, I made a difference. Man, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.800 I made a difference. They never would. You know, my 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.400 first my only year playing football, uh in high school, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.000 my senior year, you know, when I found decide to 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.320 play football, we smoked him. We smoked all our district guys. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.240 You know, was your sister an athlete? Uh? They were, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.640 but they didn't back then. Back then Title nine had 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.120 just come on. Wong. I mean, we're so old, Danny 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:35.000 girls girls basketball in our day. Yeah, there were six 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.159 on the court. They could they had three on one 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.119 end of the court. Yes, across half court. They couldn't 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.200 cross because you guys didn't have the ability to just 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.000 drop the ball. Girls didn't have this and they didn't 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.279 girls didn't have this quote unquote, they didn't have the 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.320 stamina the yeah, let's say quote unquote, because I know 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.120 that wasn't true. You know that wasn't true. I thought 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.760 you would say, like maybe they led him play with 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.960 six as an extra. I didn't mean like six total. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.400 Are you on one? So you had three on three 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.960 on one end and then three on three on the 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:11.320 other end at the same game. That is insulting. Yeah, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:16.520 it's crazy. Well, you know, and then Iowa, look, man, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:24.000 this is yeah. They continued that like up until about 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.720 a decade ago. I don't know how long ago. They 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.160 stopped it in some state in the Midwest. I can't 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.679 remember what state it was. I don't know why. Maybe 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.000 it's what it takes a few of people if you're 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.280 going five on five. So yeah, I don't know what 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.200 they were thinking. But that's great though you're not fo there. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.880 Don't look at us. Okay, we didn't. We didn't think that, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.400 all right. One one other note on school boards okay, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:50.000 and uh my parents more great parents. My mom went 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:54.320 to every single school board meeting when we were going 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.840 to school. She was that person when when when I 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.800 have a twin sister, Janet okay. When we graduated from 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.840 high school, we were the last to come through. They 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.520 presented her with a plaque for attending every school board. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.839 Please don't come this is your plaque um to never 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.799 come in again. We'll have your pictures. That's a great 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.720 parent right there. Well, well, no, you're right. My sister 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.200 was the same way. Of course, as we talked about 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.960 my sister in law Virginia. But my sister Grather, she 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.240 always on them. I mean, you know, make sure that 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.760 her kids would treat it right. She had four boys 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.240 in school, three boys in school and a daughter, and 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.480 she wanted to make sure her kids would treat it right. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.440 She was always up there, just like your mom. And 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.240 that's just to me, that's just the way it should be. Uh, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.280 they want to She knew everyone by their first names, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.400 and they knew her when she walked in the building. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.960 Because you know, you have to look out for your kids. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.560 When you start talking about institutions, whether it's educational or what, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.960 you have to be careful that no one gets left behind, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.359 you know, and I think it can happen. It's the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.400 system itself. Sometimes it's not perfect. So then you have 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.480 to make sure that you know the details are paid 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.560 attention to, and that's what those PTA's afore, that's what 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.800 those parents are for in regards to communicating with the system. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.960 But so proud this weekend. Uh, you know, after the events, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.000 after the graduations, went to you know, restaurants and just 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.440 had a great time. It was. It was just one 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.800 of those weekends that wasn't too hot, wasn't too cold, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.640 sitting in the shade family, you know, don't have to 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.040 worry about a whole bunch of people around. I just 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.400 really was one of the best weekends. I think I'm 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.040 going down to Austin tomorrow for my niece's high school graduation. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.000 I hope the weather's good. University of Florida, Yeah, Um, 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.160 what's your nephew you gonna do? Uh, he's gonna go 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.920 to Old State. He's going to Home and State University. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.480 Sure is. He was, like I said, honor student. You 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.840 graduated with honors. And I think he did get that 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.880 academic scholarship. He's he's well accomplished. These kids now that 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:04.400 way smarterer than than I was. All Right, So Danny, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.360 what does June first mean? Well, first of all, summer 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.760 should be summer. If we hadn't feel like summer yesterday, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.000 not today either. Uts are back and this is the 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:19.120 big day for cuts, right that would make a difference 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.280 on Saturday. Can yep, you see you can see some 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.760 cuts made. You can see some trades, cuts made over 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.520 and uh, well, if you cut a player, make him 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.520 now a lot of times on cuts they can and 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.280 it's already happened, you know two months ago. You cut 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.560 a player, you just make it a June first designation. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.600 And so for salary cap reasons, it affects things like that. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.960 But as far as trades go, Uh, this Julio Jones, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.640 possibility of Julio being traded by Atlanta, and I think 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.600 that I saw this morning the Rams it kind of 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.120 backed out on it. Tennessee is a big player on that. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.400 But June. I haven't looked at his contract, but I 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.800 assume one of the things they're waiting on on that 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.719 was to get past June first, so that from a 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.760 salary cap standpoint, it's easier to trade him. And so 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.760 things should start happening along those lines. And there's other 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.200 players that have provisions in their kind or right, or 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.960 it's because of the way the salary cap structure is 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:23.240 in the NFL. There's possibilities that other players could get 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.439 traded after June first. And you also had me start 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.160 a countdown at the end of last week. Today is 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.880 now one hundred days away from the Cowboys season opener Thursday, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:39.640 NFL opener Thursday night, August ninth against the reigning Super 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:46.080 Bowl Chance September ninth. Oh, my gosh, September ninth against 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.400 Tampa Bay. Oh, one hundred days from today. I had 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.360 to stay, so I got backtrack. Julio General says he's 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:58.160 never coming here. He said there's no way he'd considered. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.319 Did he really? He really did. I didn't hear that. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.360 I don't know. That's for real. Yeah, that's for real. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.520 He had a phone conversation that was wild. Do you 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:11.440 think he was one he called him in the show? 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.480 I didn't see that. Yeah, And they made the big 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.240 deal about that because they said they may have gotten 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.280 in some trouble, like maybe it was I don't knowing 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.680 or something like that. I don't know how that goes, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.320 but that was very rare. You know. Is he still 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.280 pissed off about the watermel one thing? Get over it. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.360 You guys lost a lot more games after that, and no, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 I think he looked at the roster. Yeah, I would 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.480 see that too. See He's like, you ain't coming here. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.480 Mark Cooper is like, you ain't coming on my side. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.040 Gallop is like, hey, look I'm the biggest visor star here. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:47.360 So Cooper lamb Gallop Blake jar One. I was like, hey, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:52.200 you can't block like I can't. And so there's not 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.240 a lot of there's not enough boss to go around 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.600 for Huleo to come here. Money seemed like it was 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.480 the way he was looking at the dude. To Danny, 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.800 he get it like. It wasn't like oh I don't 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.960 have enough room because the roster is so good. He's 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.839 like he has like you know, this dame for the Cowboys. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.120 And that the reason I think he was asked specifically 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.720 about the Cowboys is there was a picture that was circulating. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.200 Some fan ran into him, I think maybe at a 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.840 mall here, and he was wearing a Cowboys sweatshirt, and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.360 I think that was why I think he specifically asked 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.520 about the Cowboys. So he had some gear on him 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:31.199 dead Okay, yeah, I'm also it is the coolest gear. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.680 We do have, the best get you still wear? Where 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.679 is it today? Not today? Not today? Man? I felt 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.760 so comfortable after this past weekend. This is this is 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.479 my word clothes. I'm going home after this and I'm 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.960 gonna do some some renovating at the house. All right, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.079 all right, Well, so second week of OTA, he's going 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.800 to be Thursday before the media can get out and 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.800 look at him again. And after seeing the reports from 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:02.360 last week, Um, you know, right now, things look pretty 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.840 good with this team. A year ago, right, they looked 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.080 pretty good with this team too, though. A year ago 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.240 we were just in heaven. Man, we were like, we 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.280 are gonna take over the world. Will McClay got down 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.959 with the signings. Everything was amazing. He probably gave him 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.600 what a minus just just for the signings last year, right, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:27.480 And then then football started. Football didn't even truly start 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.840 before a lot of those free agents were cut. McCoy 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.320 got hurt first, right, and the it wasn't the first 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.120 first real basically, it wasn't even a drill yet. I mean, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.840 it was just very start of it. Yeah, Oh my goodness, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.760 where's first practice where? By the way, he's in Tampa 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.000 and he tweets a lot about the world champion Tampa 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.640 Bay Buccaneers. I think he wants to join them. And 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:53.080 waiting for an injury to happen. Maybe um we might 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:58.920 we might see him in September. Romper, that's right, that's right, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:01.640 what a good game. And he would have made a 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.800 big difference even just from a locker room standpoint, much 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.640 less on the field last last year. But yeah, you 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.920 turned back to clock a year ago and think about 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.320 all the signings. Yeah, yep, don Terry Poe, John Terry 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.680 don't well you can bring that up close because SPACs 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:24.000 is not here now right now. Yeah, we got that 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.760 maybe the first mix shot of the day right there, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.600 John Terry Poe, don't get me started. Safety hahaw, Clinton 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:37.040 Dix defensive and Everson Griffin. Remember they got a was 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.720 it what? What pick? What did they get from Detroit 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.880 when they traded him, um sixth round? Maybe? I think 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.040 it probably was something like in cornerback Daryl Worley. Those 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.079 were all the big free agency signings last year that 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.000 don't even make it their full season. And I never 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.760 was sold on the defensive backs. I just never was. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.280 I just don't think we prioritize them. Of course we 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:04.840 got the you know, Treyvon Diggs, we signed him high 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.400 up in the draft. I get that, but I think 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.679 as an overall vision for the for the Cowboys, I 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.640 don't think we really put much stock into free agent 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.680 defensive backs and I wasn't happy with that sign either. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.720 And even for those guys last year, it was more 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.840 they were fillers until there were rentals, basically until the 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.240 young guys came along, because they didn't know for sure 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.320 at the time that Darryl Whorley, for instance, okay, he 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.200 had h he had started fifteen sixteen games for the 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.840 Raiders the year before and played a little bit of 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.720 safety at the end of that year as well as cornerback, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.640 and he's a former I think third round draft pick 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.200 um and in twenty fifteen, I think, but they they 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.000 didn't know for sure if Treyvon Dix was going to 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.200 be able to step in and start right away, and 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.120 then they had Dix and and with Dix that was 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.600 that was a It's one of those familiar roles that 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.840 you have you want to bring in because McCarthy was 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.480 coming in. You want to bring in players that you're 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.920 familiar with, and that was one of those guys. He was, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.000 you know, came in from the Packers. He did well 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.880 there had gone on to the Bears didn't do so well, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.840 and when he came here, I think he was hoping 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.320 he'd be a nice little comfort zone in the secondary 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.800 for coach McCarthy and that did not work out. His 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.360 off season and his preseason must have been horrible for them, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.920 not to even make it to the level that they 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.160 wanted him to. And because that's that's a signing that 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.360 you say, you know what, we got a spot for 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.240 your dicks. You know, you and I've been knowing each 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.640 other for a minute, this is for you. I'm gonna 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.720 go ahead and deal with these guys. I'm gonna need 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.200 you in the future because of your experience. They didn't 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.240 even get to that point. So I just let you know. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.400 Whatever he was doing on the field was not working 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.760 out at all. So what makes you feel more confident 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.600 in defensive act? The sign this year and Jayron cursed 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.360 de Monte Gaze and then Kean O'Neil, who's gonna play linebacker? 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.480 But you know, how's that safety experience? Why do you 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.480 feel better about that? I don't know if I do 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.160 necessarily feel better about that. I feel better about the 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.280 rookies than I do the free agent signings. I guess 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.000 I kind of take myself back there, you know, when 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.840 I came out as a rookie, signed or not. I 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.120 don't care where you're drafted. Once you get in those drills, yeah, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.560 it's man to man. You know, I gotta make plays. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.160 I have to. I have to live up to what 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.440 I have to do. It's all about being coached well, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.240 learning well, maturing physically mentally as you go through camp, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.880 improving every day. If you don't see that, yeah, if 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.640 you don't see that for yourself, then you shouldn't even 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.800 be in the league. I don't care what age you are. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.400 And so I'm hoping that these young kids can come 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.520 out and bring that energy, you know what brings some 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.480 whole different mindset to the team, and you know what 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.040 mine is. You're gonna give up some plays just the 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.360 way it is because it's the NFL, But you have 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.000 to look forward to making your plays during the right 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.360 time of a ball game. You watch these NBA playoffs, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.200 you know, we always you know Lebron, I'm a big 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.720 fan of Lebron, but any superstar player or any player 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.639 worth his salt, you know that there's a time of 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.879 when you have to make plays. You don't necessarily make 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.320 plays all game long, but there's a time when making 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.440 your play is important and it's essential. And that's what 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.880 I want these guys to have in their mindset. Yeah, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.560 you're gonna get beat here and there, that's the way. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.560 That's the way it goes because you're young. But make 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.959 sure you understand the gravit of the situation and make 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.320 those plays when you have to make those plays. That 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.960 was something Trayvon Dix talked about last year in his 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.280 rookie season, was learning the mental strength you have to 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.679 have in a game of you're gonna have mistakes, you're 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.920 gonna give plays up, but it's how do you bounce 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.000 back that next play? How do you stay confident, how 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.560 do you put it behind you? How do you move forward? 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.399 And that was something he talked about a lot last year. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.320 Here's what I was thinking on the way here my 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.800 approach to the game, and I would imagine others did. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.080 I never talked to any other defensive backs about this, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.840 But when you look at the game, the way that 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:02.000 you have to complymentalize it. There's only five seconds of 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.160 action per play. You got to think about that. It's 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.280 only five seconds that you have to really, really concentrate 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.880 on what's going on. That intensity is strong for five seconds. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.560 After that, you got to use the rest of it 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.040 to steady yourself. You know, as you go back to 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.360 the hell, you can't be worried about what happened those 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.720 past five seconds. You know, you just have to be 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.240 worried about the next five seconds that comes up. So 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.480 instead of worrying about an entire game that has to 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.760 be played, you got to break it down into it. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.640 Where they say you can't eat the elephant in one bite. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.280 You know, you can't ephant. You know, you gotta break 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.280 it off into pieces. And that's the way you have 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.840 to do a ball game. You can't be overwhelmed by 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.840 the mentality of the entire ball game. Just those five seconds. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.480 That's all you have to concentrate on doing an entire drive. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.800 And it kind of helps you poise yourself so that 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.160 you're not worried about all those things that can happen. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:00.800 You just worry about the next five seconds. Remember, I'll 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.960 never forget it, you know, I don't think I'm sorry 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.680 um answer your question on I think another reason that 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:16.160 there's I think they're one of the reasons there should 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.280 be more faith in the signings of Kazie and Keyan 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.919 O'Neil this year is because of the dan Quinn had 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.000 him last year and had him the last four or 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.560 five years. McCarthy's situation. Yeah, but but but it has 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:36.640 but it had been several years since McCarthy had Clinton Dix. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.280 Plus he's on even though he's the head coach, he's 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.480 he's focused on the offensive side of the ball. If 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:47.520 if haha, Clinton Dix's defensive coordinator or secondary coach, who 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.440 were the ones that were he worked with before, Yeah, 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.800 that he was familiar, Like if he was like if 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.760 this secondary coach Joe Witt who had him in Green 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.640 Bay was recommending signing him, then would be a different story. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.920 But what wit wasn't here last year? And so so 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:10.720 so dan quinn knows these guys. He knows exactly where 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.760 they are from a health standpoint as well. And I 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.119 think especially in the and I don't know so much 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.600 about Kazia, he may fall in the same category. But 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.160 the fact last week you can kind of read into 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:27.639 who the Cowboys media people put in front of the 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.159 camera's first and the first OTAs, and Kean O'Neil was 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.520 one of those that they put up front and center. Okay, 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:38.280 that tells you the a that he likes talking to 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.640 the media. You know, he can be a spokesman. He's 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:45.840 has that mentality about him and also communicate with h 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.440 that's right, and can communicate with his teammates and UM 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.520 and that there is going to be a primary role 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.840 for him on this team, even though they're saying they're 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.600 lining him up and he's learning a will linebacker right 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.840 now he mentioned with the will and the dime linebacker. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.640 That's I think basically it's where you're looking at him 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.040 where he can basically still be the buck safety that 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:13.359 he was in Atlanta, where um where he was specialized 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.080 in and made plays, made the Pro Bowl in twenty seventeen. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.480 But in the sub packages. You know, in seventy percent 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.520 of the time they were in sub packages, if not 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.720 more than that. I was gonna ask you think we're 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:28.600 gonna start off in nickel again, right, I mean, it 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.560 depends on what the other team comes out in. But 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.280 if they're coming out and with three receivers, four receivers, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.560 we're gonna see you know that's right? Yeah, so UM, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.520 but you know, after last year, I would imagine no 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.360 matter what your strength is when you play the Cowboys, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.760 you're gonna have a two tight end package, just based 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.000 on what you saw last year. In fact, until they 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.960 proved they can't stop the run and they can't stop it. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.399 I mean that's I think that's something they should be 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.879 prepared for, be prepared for the three linebacker set, the 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:06.760 typical run situation, first down run defense set. I'm hoping. Yeah. Well, 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.080 I think another point you kind of touched on, Everson 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.119 is having Neil and Kazee from Atlanta is thinking about 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.640 the locker room aspect of it, and not just maybe 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.680