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Speaker 2: Always there for you. Happy birthday to my dad. By

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Speaker 2: We're the cake. I'll read one comment that I found

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Speaker 2: So for some of you that think we're too negative,

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Speaker 4: Lone and it's not even hay, and it's just keeping

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Speaker 3: But because you played way back in the yes.

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Speaker 1: This feels like every big big league camp for me.

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Speaker 2: Please, it's Todd, it's Danny, it's me. Rats from his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're busy, big bags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's things no matter what, even if you have

439
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Speaker 8: I don't know if I had the expectation, but I

440
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Speaker 8: knew the reality of the situation. So no matter what,

441
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Speaker 8: when when it does happen, it stings, and you always

442
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Speaker 8: feel like, all right, no matter what, I'm gonna go

443
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Speaker 8: out there and I'm gonna perform as best as I

444
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Speaker 8: can and maybe it will change the minds. I don't

445
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Speaker 8: think there are any minds that change here. I think

446
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Speaker 8: there was a business decision that had to be made.

447
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Speaker 8: And like I said there before earlier today, this is

448
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Speaker 8: Marshan's a great player, so I fully expect him to

449
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Speaker 8: go out there, perform and help the team win. But

450
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Speaker 8: you know, in my last three years, I've done just that,

451
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Speaker 8: is do nothing but help this team win, whether it

452
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Speaker 8: be on the field off the field. That's been my

453
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Speaker 8: mindset from the very beginning. So there was always the

454
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Speaker 8: thought in the back of my head, you know, we've

455
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Speaker 8: had a really good thing going and I've helped this

456
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Speaker 8: team win. So maybe they'll see they'll see that and

457
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Speaker 8: that will be the decision that's made at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day. But now we're sitting here and this

459
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Speaker 8: is a decision that's made.

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Speaker 2: So that's guy at Stubbs on The Philly Show with

461
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Speaker 2: one of their hosts Todds A lucky at Clearwater. That

462
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Speaker 2: shows awesome if you want to check it out. They've

463
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Speaker 2: done tons of interviews during spring training and otherwise with

464
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Speaker 2: many of the big fills, but obviously crap. It's not

465
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Speaker 2: only is this the team that you help us talk about,

466
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Speaker 2: but you know stubbs pretty well. And just like when

467
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Speaker 2: Kevin Pollar came on last year right after he had

468
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Speaker 2: been dfaded, it's pretty cool to hear from a guy

469
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Speaker 2: once he gets optioned who'd been in the bigs for

470
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Speaker 2: a while, been part of big moments for the Phillies

471
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Speaker 2: and just get the raw response from him right after

472
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Speaker 2: it happened.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to talk to anybody when you get optioned.

474
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at Kobe Mayo. Kobe Mayo had to

475
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Speaker 1: go and recant what he said. You don't retract like

476
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Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was kind of mad at the time

477
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Stubbsy also didn't give you the you

478
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Speaker 1: know what, sometimes you go out and you do good

479
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't do good. He gave a real

480
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Speaker 1: insight into what it is. And that's why, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: I think Stubbsy's spot on this team. While he doesn't

482
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Speaker 1: have it in the big leagues right now. Guys respect him,

483
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Speaker 1: Guys understand him. People be like, ah, I talked to

484
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Speaker 1: somebody the other day in Philly. They were like, oh,

485
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Speaker 1: Man Stubbs, he sucks. I was like, Okay, relax for

486
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Speaker 1: a second, Like, this is a big league baseball player

487
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Speaker 1: who has to go out and face big league pitching

488
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Speaker 1: once every seven days. When JT. Real Muto doesn't play,

489
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Speaker 1: he has He does everything. He'll lay a bunt down,

490
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Speaker 1: he's got I think he's got like nine or ten

491
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Speaker 1: stolen bases coming off the bench. He is the production

492
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Speaker 1: you need. Oh yeah, And he had the fastest pop

493
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Speaker 1: time of any catcher in baseball last year on one

494
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Speaker 1: single throw, so his averages.

495
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Speaker 3: Are right there.

496
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Speaker 1: It's a little bit slower than JT. Real Muto, who

497
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Speaker 1: is the best in baseball. So yes, Garrett stuff sucks

498
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Speaker 1: compared to JT.

499
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Speaker 3: Real Muto.

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Speaker 1: That is not fair. This is a business decision they

501
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Speaker 1: need to have in an organization. You need to have

502
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Speaker 1: three legitimate big league catchers, and they had that for

503
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Speaker 1: a while. With Marshawn being able to be in the bushes.

504
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Speaker 1: JT goes down. He comes up filled in really well

505
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Speaker 1: did a great job with his opportunity. Now he's got

506
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Speaker 1: no options. When you got options, there's value there. Sorry, Like,

507
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Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and look at the Dodgers and

508
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Speaker 1: who have options. They have a really deep roster. They're

509
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Speaker 1: going to options some dudes down and it's not based

510
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Speaker 1: on who they are as a player. It's based on

511
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Speaker 1: how can this team make the best forty five to

512
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Speaker 1: fifty guys pushed towards the World Series Championship.

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Speaker 4: You need that said, and you always need catchers at

514
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Speaker 4: the end of the catcher I'm not saying I don't

515
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Speaker 4: know what particular reason. Yeah, I know they're in the

516
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Speaker 4: stands all the time. They have Nixon Knax, and he's

517
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Speaker 4: gonna have to get called back up. I mean they

518
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Speaker 4: got the guy's an absolute beast. You know wherever he

519
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Speaker 4: is and wherever he's at, so he's there's always Teams

520
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Speaker 4: are always looking for catchers, and you know he'll be

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Speaker 4: He'll be back up in no time in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean hopefully for the Phillies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's between whatever team he's with.

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Speaker 1: That's the hard that's the hard part with being a

525
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Speaker 1: backup catcher. Hopefully you don't get called up hopefully if

526
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Speaker 1: you're the big lead backup, you're not playing every day. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: that's the reality. If if you guys want to watch

528
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Speaker 1: The Tale of the Backup Catcher, it tells you no,

529
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Speaker 1: it's really, it's really the it's the crux of the position.

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Speaker 1: You know you're good enough to be a big leaguer

531
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Speaker 1: and if you get more at bats, you'll play better.

532
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Speaker 1: But you also know if JT. Real Muto goes down,

533
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Speaker 1: that is a monster loss for a Phillies team. So

534
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Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough, and no way is Garrett. So

535
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Speaker 1: that's why I loved about the interview. Garrett Stubbs is

536
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Speaker 1: not going to ever hope for an injury and like nobody, nobody,

537
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Speaker 1: nobody is worth their weight, and you're going to be

538
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Speaker 1: out of the big leagues like this if you're just

539
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Speaker 1: hoping for injuries, that's just that, ain't it.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Awesome insight from him. That was really

541
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Speaker 2: good to be able to learn about what's going on

542
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Speaker 2: and also hear from him the genuine a I've given

543
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Speaker 2: a lot to this team, yes, and I'm going to

544
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Speaker 2: continue to do that. Really cool, no other way to

545
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Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, exactly, So props to stubs. Obviously he'll

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Speaker 2: be up at some point, most likely this year. It's

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Speaker 2: just the nature of the beast, all right. Ft fam

548
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Speaker 2: Arena Club is going to help us take a look

549
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Speaker 2: at the stars. So there was an article put out

550
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Speaker 2: by the Athletic on position player tiers, the top one

551
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Speaker 2: hundred position players, sacking them up with what is a Otani, Soto, Judge,

552
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Speaker 2: Bobby Wood Junior, etc. Look like, well, all the guys

553
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Speaker 2: I just mentioned actually are in the top tier, and

554
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Speaker 2: so is Mookie Betts and Gunner Henderson. That's it. That

555
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Speaker 2: was the best of the best position players. So I'm

556
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Speaker 2: just laying that out right off the jump. We've got

557
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Speaker 2: lists of the rest, but there's your best of the best.

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Speaker 2: Take a good look at it. So basically, according to

559
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: them on the position player side, you have a top.

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Speaker 3: Six.

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Speaker 2: Counting to make sure I got that right, top six

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Speaker 2: is right here. Three of them are shortstops. One of course,

563
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Speaker 2: is a dh and Otani, who is a whole nother story.

564
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Speaker 2: But anyway, there's your six. Let's show the next tier

565
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Speaker 2: down and then we can start to pick through it

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Speaker 2: because there's also you know, the the best of the

567
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Speaker 2: best is one, the MVP Contenders is to the All

568
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Speaker 2: Stars is three, and steady and solid is for these

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Speaker 2: Let's get lengthy, but we'll pick some things out. I

570
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: just want to show the MVP contenders too, so you

571
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Speaker 2: can see who is not in that top tier. Ronald

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Speaker 2: Lacuna Junior, Jordan Abarez, Elie de la Cruz, Freddie Freeman,

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Speaker 2: Vladdy Junior, Bryce Harper, Lindoor, Ktel Marte, Jose Ramirez, Julio Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: Cory Seger, Fernando Tatis Junior, and Kyle Tucker. That is

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Speaker 2: the next list down that they have. Okay, let us begin.

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Speaker 2: Todd Father, Yes, sir, what do you like? What do

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Speaker 2: you not like?

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Speaker 3: I like? I like the Tier one. I think that's

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Speaker 3: that's really good.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's one person that should also be

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Speaker 4: up there in that tier one, and that's Ronald Lacune journer.

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Speaker 4: And I think maybe he's Tier two because of the injuries.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the only thing I could really think of.

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Speaker 4: But the guy is I mean, think about what he

585
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Speaker 4: has done in a year span two as well with uh,

586
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Speaker 4: you know, the opportunities is given with the stolen bases,

587
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: with the home runs, with every anything else. He's an

588
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: absolute beast. When he's healthy, he's one of the best players.

589
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Speaker 4: I feel like he should be on a tier one

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Speaker 4: in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I like that we can add more. Yeah, we can

592
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Speaker 1: add more today, and he has an MVP, So should

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Speaker 1: he be in that tier?

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes when people put lists together, they're too

595
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Speaker 2: hard on superstars with injuries. You need to look at

596
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Speaker 2: where they are in their career. Like Cocune's got plenty

597
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Speaker 2: of prime years left. He's come back from a knee

598
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Speaker 2: injury already. Does anybody doubt that he's going to be

599
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Speaker 2: a superstar again? I don't think so. Are some people

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Speaker 2: concerned that it might not look like that in May

601
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Speaker 2: or June or even for the first season because that

602
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: was a thing with him last time? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: But is he a first tier guy? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I would say, is he a fifty to thirty guy? Like,

606
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Speaker 1: it's okay if he never steals seventy bases again, it

607
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: is really okay. People like, we're fine if he goes

608
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Speaker 1: fifty to thirty, there's gonna be another mantle. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be another trophy on his mantle.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. I'm going to bring this one up because

611
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: then you know, you get to the the Tier three

612
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Speaker 2: and you've got guys like Corbyn Carroll and Alex Bregman,

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Speaker 2: Churios on there, William Contreras, Matt Olsen. Here, it is

614
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Speaker 2: cal Riley. I'm not going to say every single name,

615
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Speaker 2: Jaron Duran who was sick last year, Machado's on here,

616
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Speaker 2: Trout's on here. Are you guys cool with Ellie de

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Speaker 2: la Cruz being in Tier two and not Tier three

618
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Speaker 2: m VP contenders on the list above all of these players. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because I am a fan of Ellie.

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Speaker 2: We're going to see him next week in Cincinnati, and

621
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Speaker 2: if we can to show Arena Club a little love

622
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Speaker 2: we can, we can throw an Ellie de la Cruz.

623
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Speaker 2: That's a gym right out there which you can get,

624
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Speaker 2: and the goldpack. I'm waiting for mine, so I will

625
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: be entering the slab Pack mix later today today, Yes, today.

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Speaker 1: Day one o'clock right at drops.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So thoughts on Ellie because for me, I know I

629
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Speaker 2: talked about this last year. At one point I was

630
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Speaker 2: like he should be in the MVP conversation. I felt

631
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: like you guys were a little hard on me, and yes,

632
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: other players did emerge. Obviously, Otani put a full season together.

633
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: Lindor definitely had a better year than him, but I

634
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Speaker 2: felt like he was getting close to that territory. To tell,

635
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Marte had a better year than him, but I felt

636
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Speaker 2: like in the National League he was getting pretty close

637
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, I'm not surprised if he wins

638
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Speaker 2: an MVP starting this season.

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Speaker 1: That would be a'd be a quick turnaround with the

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Speaker 1: deficiencies that he has. He's also, he's so young. He's

641
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Speaker 1: so young.

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Speaker 2: What are the deficiencies besides swing and miss, which has been.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's it, right, I'm just taking it is deficiencies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did say plural, and yes, he's twenty three

646
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Speaker 2: years old. Just just wondering what what else is wrong?

647
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean deficiencies, it's multiple strikeouts. It's a lot of

648
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: strikeouts to be able to allow yourself to be an MVP.

649
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Is the stolen base going to be valued enough for

650
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: an MVP candidacy? Does his defense give him enough to

651
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: give him that MVP candidacy? If he learns to steal

652
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: stolen bases? And this is crazy, I'm probably gonna get

653
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: roasted by the red fan that is watching this show.

654
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: What if he learns to steal bases? Dave Roberts has

655
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: come out and said it. Other base Steelers have come

656
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: out and said, this guy steals based on his long

657
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: legs and his speed when he learns to get jumps

658
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: and stuff. Let's say he gets into the eighty five

659
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: to ninety range, which is a banana's number. I think

660
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: he's available, he's able to do that, and then he

661
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: puts thirty pumps on it. Now we're talking MVP to

662
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: wash out his strikeouts that are there because his strikeouts

663
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: are not going to allow him to get on base.

664
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Every time he strikes out, he cannot steal a base. Know,

665
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: that's pretty easy.

666
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Say get on base as

667
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: much as possible. Now, this is only year three in

668
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: the BIGS, and one wasn't even a full season. Year one,

669
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: in just under one hundred games, thirty percent of the

670
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: time he's on base. Okay, three hundred on base year two,

671
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: three thirty nine. That's that's good. That's what you're looking for.

672
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: That's the improvement that is. Now, can we get the

673
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: swing and miss down a little bit more? Can we

674
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: take a few more walks, right. Also, I mean, you

675
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: guys can speak better than to this than I can.

676
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: He's huge. Sometimes the big dudes take a little bit

677
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: more time to marinate. Look look at how long it

678
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: took Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge wasn't in the big leagues

679
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: until what twenty three or four? And that's in the

680
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: Star until twenty five.

681
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I want to say, yes, twenty seventeen. Yes, so he

682
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: would be yeah, twenty five. I think he was when

683
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: he was. But anyway, like we're nitpicking here. Yes, we're

684
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: not saying he is a We're not We're not confusing

685
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Eli da Cruz with like a barely in the big

686
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: league's guy. We're confusing him with is he a top

687
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: five player or is he a top two player in

688
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: the league? And those are the things, those are the

689
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: deficiencies that will elevate him, and he can do that.

690
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Most dudes are in double A if they're lucky at

691
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: twenty three years old the Todd Father, were you in

692
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: the big league?

693
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

694
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Twenty six?

695
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

696
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: You are a how many time all start, two time?

697
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: All?

698
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Like this is he is an elite player? Could he

699
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: be an MVP? Yes? It's like when we talk about aces,

700
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: certain guys with not enough time in the big leagues

701
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: might have the stuff but might not be aces yet.

702
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Next up that I wanted to ask you is,

703
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: let's get back to the best of the Best list.

704
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Tell me how you would somewhat rank this list. You

705
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: don't have to go necessarily one through seven, But do

706
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: you feel like there is even separation within what we're

707
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: looking at now? Like, let's bring up Bobby Wood Junior

708
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: for example. I mean, he in many other years is

709
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: an MVP. There was a ridiculous season again there by

710
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: mister Judge, so he falls to second place. Not many

711
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: flaws in that game. Right now? Do you feel like

712
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: Bobby Wood Junior should be ranked? I'm putting Otani in

713
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: a separate category. Shit, should he be.

714
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: Three after Judge?

715
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: And there's the beauty of the card as well?

716
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Sorry?

717
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: I got, I got, And he was actually one of

718
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: the biggest card collectors in the sport. Anyway, By the way,

719
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: where are we at on how we're ranking the top

720
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: tier right now?

721
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: You have to be able to rank it? Okay, shows there,

722
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: that's one I think if you're talking about this season,

723
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: I think Judge may have Bobby for like a split second,

724
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about the rest of their career.

725
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

726
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: Bobby, and I wouldn't even really be able to argue

727
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: with you if you told me Bobby's over Judge, just

728
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: because this dude is young. He is always he's learning.

729
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: He like he was doing stuff last year that most

730
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: people didn't even see because it was casey like what

731
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: he was doing early in games at bats. Later on

732
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: they stopped pitching to him. Now he's gonna keep learning

733
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: how to hit?

734
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: What position?

735
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Huh?

736
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: And what position is he?

737
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the last point elite position. Any of these

738
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: guys that are on in an elite position and shows

739
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: you how good Otani is because he's dhing and we're

740
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: still like, okay, he's won because he's also going to

741
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: throw baseballs. But to me, I think it's Otani, Judge,

742
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: Bobby Witt, I think it goes Juan Soto, Gunner and Muki.

743
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: This might be the only list that Muki is number

744
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: six one.

745
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 9: Yeah that's good, Godfather, Yeah, I for me, but without

746
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 9: Otani on there. I we haven't talked about Sodo really

747
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 9: that much. I mean for me, I I got Sodo

748
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 9: as a top three in my opinion.

749
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: Really, I have a Otani, I have.

750
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: Soto, then I have Judge if you want the truth,

751
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: and I'm going on on.

752
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about position. You guys are going

753
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: to say the defense.

754
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: But I'm a hitter guy, bro, and what he did

755
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: last year, I mean can't be unnoticed. So I'm going

756
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: with those guys as the top three, and then I

757
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: put I would put Mookie Bobby with and Gunnar Henderson

758
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: after that if that's my top tier right there. So yeah,

759
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: I mean you can't take away what Wan Soto has

760
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: been doing. It's been absolutely incredible.

761
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: You're placing more emphasis on the bat and I'm with

762
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: you here, You're definitely this is gonna get posted later, right,

763
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: and and fans are gonna go.

764
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: H Todd Nutt.

765
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: Realize that you also have to be able to play

766
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: your position at an elite level. And he's not a

767
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: speech on the bass pass whatever, but you're saying, hey,

768
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm everything's weighted right if you're waiting hitting a lot

769
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: higher and the impact that he makes and how he

770
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: changes the lineup.

771
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you ask anybody all right after

772
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: you get rid of Tani, like who's your next pick

773
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: in a draft, Well, in my opinion, I'm taking one

774
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: Soto if I've positioned player wise, and that's that's just me.

775
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: But the guy's gonna absolutely drop. He's going to hit

776
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: the ball. He's going to do really good things for

777
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: the Meths as we've seen already. And you know after that,

778
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: you know he have Aaron Judge doing the same thing,

779
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: Mookie Bets, Bobby Waite. Like you said, dude, he's gonna

780
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: he's a star, but he's going to take off and

781
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: it's going to be fun to watch.

782
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, age matters too here, right, that's why Soda is

783
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: the highest paid player of all time. If you're even

784
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: just focusing on this year, you're going to put a

785
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: little more weight on the dude that's in his prime first,

786
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: a guy that's getting a little up there.

787
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see that's fine.

788
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would I would disagree with you

789
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: on the Mookie Bets, and I would switch your Mookie

790
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: and your Gunner. That's what I would switch.

791
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: You have Gunner ahead of Mookie. No chance he's going

792
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: to say, have I seen it long enough?

793
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Right?

794
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: Because for Gunner the breakout, I mean again, this is

795
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: a guy who what last year was his first full season.

796
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: I would battle you that to the end of the earth.

797
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: No, he was Rookie of Year, yeah, two years ago.

798
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: Two years ago, all right, so last year was his

799
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: his second second season is sophomore season. I don't remember

800
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: if you got called up right from the jump.

801
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Or he's whatever. He's the he's the engine that runs

802
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: that that locomotive.

803
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: But Moki is also the leadoff guy too as well.

804
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: Well I'm not sure what they kind of go back

805
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: and forth, but seeing what Mookie can do, and he

806
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: played two different positions.

807
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: Now I'm moving back to who's.

808
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: The best athlete on that list of the six.

809
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: Athlete taking baseball away or were talking baseball too.

810
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: Hey, we gotta jump, we gotta we got a big

811
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: boy guest ready to go.

812
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: Big boy guess I'm going rookie bots, Yeah, have to.

813
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: That's my number six. But that that's that's where that's

814
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: the elite people out there.

815
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: That is all right? Anyway, that was fun. Thanks to

816
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: the Athletic for putting that out there, and thanks to

817
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Arena Club for helping us out with all the pretty graphics.

818
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Use code foul foul to get yourself twenty percent off

819
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: your first slab pack or your first card purchase. If

820
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: you're waiting for that slab pack to drop like Kratz does.

821
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: You also can get them now every single day, which

822
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: makes a big difference. Basically, you can unwrap it pack

823
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: and not be like, I'm never going to get this

824
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: big card. They're showing you what you can get in

825
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: the grail. We'll dive deeper on picks next week, but

826
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: right now butt MGM futures again looking for value. National

827
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: League Central Winner. Uh oh, Cubs plus one fifteen. People

828
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: are like, wow, two cups, they're so far behind. What

829
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Then you've got Milwaukee at plus two ninetyes, Cincinnati's at

830
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: plus four fifty, Pittsburgh and Saint Louis at plus eight

831
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: fifty together, Do we have value on the board. I

832
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: feel like we're all going to agree on where the

833
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: value is.

834
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty soon.

835
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: The Reds at plus four, I mean sure, could they

836
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: end up in last this year, yes, But could they

837
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: end up in first this year? Absolutely? With the talent

838
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: that they've got.

839
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: By six games they could agreed.

840
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: Yes, that's your value right?

841
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

842
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

843
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Easy pas one fifteen plus one fifteen Wow for.

844
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: The Cubs, that's that's crazy. Honestly, that is way.

845
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: Too high going. They must know something we don't know.

846
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: They're getting them way too much. Ve good team, but

847
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: to go that high.

848
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: And I know that numbers, and I know that numbers

849
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: moving because a guy that I talked to about those

850
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: numbers moving pre season picks stuff. There's some dudes, there's

851
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: some high up, good people who are really good at

852
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: picks who are going Cubs. They're going the Cubs. Yeah,

853
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: even at plus and that numbers, that number has been changing.

854
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: It's been technically going down. It was at like one

855
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: seventy two hundred people throwing down.

856
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, not me, nope, Red Yeah again, I like them,

857
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: but I'm not getting value at plus one fifteen. Right,

858
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: We're almost even money on them to win the division.

859
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: That's too much. That's too crazy. Clip this back in

860
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: the future.

861
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: And doesn't mean they can't. Doesn't mean Scott's picked.

862
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not winning the division by ten games.

863
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: Man. If they do, they they have some dudes step

864
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: up in that. They had some dudes step up in

865
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of that lineup, even middle of that lineup.

866
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: The Brewers won the division last year by ten games, yes,

867
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: so or more whatever. All right anyway, you know what's

868
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: going on right now? Little March action, March matchups, no

869
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: Sweat Parlay, Drive to the rim with the no Sweat

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872
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Just will we have what one minute? Todd Father, you

873
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: can do it. AJ's not here, and I know he

874
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: hates when I talk about sports besides baseball, but we'll

875
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: do it.

876
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: Scott allows basketball but not football.

877
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: I do like me some college hoops this year.

878
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: Let's go.

879
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: You got any listen, there's a Cinderella team who I

880
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: really like.

881
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: I got thirty seconds.

882
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: They looked good yesterday to Creighton. Blue Jays look absolutely stunning.

883
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: I think they're eight or nine seed.

884
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: So great story put together on Pete Alonzo's experience last

885
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: year in the playoffs that kept the Mets playoff hopes

886
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: alive against Devin Williams. Did you guys see this, the

887
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: back and forth and the breakdown and you know if

888
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: there was any pitching tipping, pitch tipping and all of that,

889
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: and he said that it wasn't right.

890
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: No, no, even if you know that change up is coming,

891
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 4: it's pretty filthy. It's the best changeup you're ever going

892
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: to see in baseball, I mean pretty much. So, Yeah,

893
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: it was back and forth a little bit. But you know,

894
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: would you if he's not on your team, would you say, yeah,

895
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: he was tipping the pitches or you would just.

896
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: So you're saying you'd never give this up because I'm

897
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: still in the league. Yeah, of cover. So anyway, I

898
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: want to shout out. Also, we're showing you the CBS

899
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: article but originally came from a guest of the show,

900
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Dicomo, who writes for MLB dot com. But your

901
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: point is, no matter what.

902
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was every time a curveball came making a

903
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: noise with his glove.

904
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: No, you know what I mean.

905
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: No, until he's on your team, then you tell him exactly,

906
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: and then when he leaves again, you're like, it's a

907
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: good thing you fixed that. He didn't fix nothing. Because

908
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: the Mets want to win the World Series, and could

909
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: they face in the World Series a team from the

910
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: American League. The Yankees are one of those teams. Whether

911
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: they are going to or not, it doesn't doesn't apply. No,

912
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: you're not telling anybody, and we're not even saying Pete's

913
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: a liar.

914
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: No, no, wouldn't wouldn't say it.

915
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: But also Pete hits. I think it's like ops on

916
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: change ups last year from Righty's was like over eleven hundred.

917
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: I think it was.

918
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: Something ridiculous that change ups. Yeah, he has a lot

919
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: of pitches that he hits. The dude's a fifty fifty homer.

920
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: Dude, it's just crazy in our game. When you look

921
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: at someone like Devin Williams, you're like, oh, this game's over.

922
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: Right, not not in the playoffs, playoffs, class A, not

923
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, that pressure class A.

924
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Last year during the regular season, you're like, he's a cyborg,

925
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: and then you get to the playoffs and he's not.

926
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: And then spring training, his last outing, he didn't look.

927
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: Good at all. No, no couple of walks hit. But

928
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: that's but that's what I'm getting to though. I'm saying, like,

929
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: it's not what's in my opinion, what's gonna look like

930
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: during the year, but what I'm saying, you know, we're

931
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: getting close to the season to start, Let's let's get a.

932
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: Gone spring training different from regular season, different from the season.

933
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Right, who would you rather have in the postseason Devin

934
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: Williams with the season he just had, Class A with

935
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: the season he just had. Or Ryan Presley in a

936
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: postseason games close out a postseason.

937
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Game, Presley class A or Devin Williams Presley class.

938
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: But who's the best in the regular season? Who's taking

939
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: home all the right now? I'm just saying, yeah, are

940
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: you saying right now?

941
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: No?

942
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: Honestly, Ryan Presley is freaking savage in the playoffs? Yeah,

943
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying right now, I know, but we're coming off

944
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: about this season.

945
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: Right now.

946
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: I'm not taking Presley right now.

947
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what are who you taking?

948
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: Ryan Presley has done it right now, I'm not I'm talking.

949
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: I'm talking about right now now. I'm taking class. And

950
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: who's the other one?

951
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: Williams and Presley?

952
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I would take class?

953
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean listen, the game. The game is over,

954
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and yet I don't think there's the postseason. This is

955
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: why people should watch the postseason, and this is why

956
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: teams should push to get in. How can we beat

957
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: the Guardians? They have class. He's gonna come in at

958
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: the end of the game. And what you can beat anybody,

959
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Anybody can beat anybody. That is the beauty of it

960
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: push all your chips in when you have a chance

961
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and go for it.

962
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: Yep.

963
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 10: So this is a time like where we gotta like

964
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 10: start making some roster's decisions, you know.

965
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 11: And like the tough part is with Rule five picks,

966
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 11: Like it just puts a lot of pressure on everybody, right,

967
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 11: pressure on you to perform, rush, on us to make

968
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 11: a decision, and it can be tough.

969
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: In most cases.

970
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 10: In your case, it's not tough at all because you

971
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 10: absolutely crushed it and we're excited to have you come

972
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 10: with us to Chicago, mad So, uh, you made the team. Congratulations,

973
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 10: unbelievable job, and we're just.

974
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 11: So excited about the prospect that you continue your career

975
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 11: with us at the big BIGE level in Chicago speeches.

976
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 12: That's good, am, Happy anniversary.

977
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah of course.

978
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Are you Are you with dad? Can you hear me?

979
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

980
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did it.

981
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm going to Chicago.

982
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 12: You know, usually left picture, you know, tough to make

983
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 12: decisions with and everything, and.

984
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: You know, you made it really easy. So you're you're

985
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: coming to chicuggling.

986
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a camera on me right now,

987
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: so no I'm not I'm not crying.

988
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Just yet.

989
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: But Shane Smith, Brewers minor league prospect undrafted, went through

990
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: like the COVID season and and Tommy John and all that,

991
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: and and pitched well in the minors. White Sox scoop

992
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: him up top pick in the Rule five draft. You

993
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 2: gotta keephim on the roster. They bring me to the show.

994
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: That's so cool. Yeah, that's very hard, as you understand

995
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: too as well. Rule five. I mean, usually thanks for

996
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: coming to you later.

997
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: But what a what an.

998
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: Unbelievable story, what an unbelievable player. And now he gets

999
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 4: to play in a in the major leaguees and go

1000
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: out there and impress some people. So congratulations to him.

1001
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: And I'm you know those things you like to keep sacred,

1002
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, talking to your family. But I'm glad they

1003
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: had a camera on him, so he is. He's got

1004
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: a little memory for the rest of his life too.

1005
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if estimate if it was okay that

1006
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: they showed it, you know, probably it's his moment. Why

1007
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: do we have to hide the cameras like he hit

1008
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: like it's like the hidden camera, because then.

1009
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: He would know what's going on. They're not doing the

1010
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: camera saying you didn't make the team. So for that

1011
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: part you get the approval. Then after that you say, hey,

1012
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: if you're going to do a phone call, can we

1013
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: be on for it. So I think they did it

1014
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: so awesome.

1015
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: It's so awesome that he and the Rule five guys

1016
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: got to stay in the big leagues the whole year,

1017
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: or else they got to send them back to the Brewers.

1018
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: And you know, anybody that goes from the White Sox

1019
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: bullpen going right to the playoffs.

1020
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: If they do not keep him on their team, you

1021
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: will go back to the Brewers and be their closer

1022
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: in August. All right, great week again, thanks to the

1023
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: team behind the scenes for the spring training tour. We'll

1024
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: see you next week again. Monday, eleven am Eastern Time.

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Speaker 2: Still wake up with us.