WEBVTT - 2024_Podcasts_Mick Shots_Video_11_26 MICK SHOTS.mp3 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.480 Cowboys. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:16.920 This is Nick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:21.240 and the official Dallas Cowboys Act. Now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:26.920 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:33.199 And it is a Tuesday here inside the SWBC podcast studio, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.240 and this is mcshot brought to you by Miller Lite. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.120 It seems more like Friday, though, because we've got a 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.160 game on Thursday. And I've got one question right off 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.400 the top, because it was so easy to get a 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.720 parking place here today. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.199 It was so driving here today. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.720 Actually, and they after drive in the afternoon this week 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.920 and it's like everyone's out Christmas shopping already or something. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.000 But the highways are flooded with people. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.440 I'm just realizing why the pluckt is. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.240 Because it's Thanksgiving week? Yes, solo place or something like? 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.000 What has happened? 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.520 That's my question. Do people in the real world, not 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.280 in this fantasy world that we live in, do they 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.440 just take off all week for Thanksgiving? I think back 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.000 back in the day, back in the day, we went 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:30.200 to school until Wednesday, absolutely, and then we got Thursday 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.760 and Friday off whatever. But now obviously there's no school 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.520 this week, and then do people just take off all week. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.759 That's why there's so much travel going on. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:47.240 Well, I do know that cowboy football players themselves microphone 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:47.960 the holidays. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.960 The holidays mean nothing to us and our families. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:59.320 Working the last holiday, the last holidays July fourth, you're 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.520 working all the rest. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.000 I never really had a Thanksgiving, you know, back when 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.360 you play, you just never had one, you. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.799 Know the way then the way the NF that's right, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.840 even Labor Day you're working because they've started game week. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.280 For the mean, there's not a game. The NFL does 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.920 not have games on Labor Day weekend anymore, but it's 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.720 for the media and for nothing. The players will get 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.880 off on Labor Day weekend, but they've got to be 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.160 back to work by Monday. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.120 Labor Day, Christ Lady, Christmas, Labor Day, you labor. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.080 That's the first day of the season. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.480 Labor Day, you labor, and no other way to put it. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.399 So anyway, So it's a great time for tours here 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.520 at the start in Frisco because there's. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.079 Some going on. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.720 Tomorrow. We just won a game, guys, I want. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.520 I would say for those of you coming into town 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.239 tomorrow would be a great day to take a tour here, 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.519 no absol. You might be able to tap on windows 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.040 and see players and stuff getting ready for the game and. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.840 Get in Bill's way, so he loses his concentration. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.480 All right, It's a different schedule today because we've got 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:18.919 the Mike McCarthy press conference coming up middle afternoon sometime 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.600 this afternoon, right, and then practice is three thirty later 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.600 practice I think, and then the locker room availability is 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.760 like at five o'clock today, so so we push it 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.720 back because of the short week. We did have Jerry 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.360 Jones on the radio this morning and making some breaking 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.480 news headlines across the country today. Would you like to 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.080 fill us in, Mickey on what those breaking news? 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:50.560 Which which one is the uh? The uh the fact 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.000 that Mike Dorothy possibility that Mike McCarthy could be back 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:55.600 next year? 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:56.040 Uh huh? 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:58.200 What did they say? 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.760 That's what Jerry said, Oh, they asked him, and he said. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.520 They asked him if he's going to be back next year. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.520 They said, is there everybody's assuming he's not going to 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.880 be back next year? Is there any validity to do that? 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.920 And he goes So they were going through the back 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.960 door to try to figure out whether yeah, because they 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.760 probably already said it, right. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.000 It was like the question they. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.880 Ask him this way, Let's say that, you know, there's 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.920 an assumption out there. Is he assuming the same thing? 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:37.200 And they were, they were They were also proponents of tanking, right, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.920 So they asked that question too. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.400 I don't know, how do you think? How does that? 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.240 How does that work? You just don't play? What? 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.120 Yeah, people, because they're playing everybody right now, right. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.800 People, Yeah, you don't play ever since you don't play 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.400 your starting quarterback, you play your backup. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.919 Okay, okay, well what taking the You don't play. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:00.680 You don't play your foot and you know they don't 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.080 don't tell your first two defensive ends we've been taking 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:03.480 all year. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.360 If the Pro Bowler, the ones who made the Pro 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.520 Bowl last year or any time in their career, they 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:09.600 don't play well. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.240 And that's what happened last day. That's what happened. Five 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.520 guys made the Pro Bowlers did not. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.200 But Cavante Turpin did play, and so that ruined the day. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:24.039 Oh yeah, yeah, he spoiled Cate. Cavante spoiled the draft 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:25.520 as soon as we sit him down. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.719 So if you need to know if you need to 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:32.400 know how to ask questions. Don't say, well, we think 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.360 you should tank. Other people are saying you should tank. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.240 What do you have to say about that? That's right, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.359 it's other people, not us. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.039 No, no, no, other people. Be the guy next to them, yeah, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.120 the people this guy over here. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.919 And that's true too, by the way, when it was 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.200 asked there they want draft picks. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:52.760 All right. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.760 So what's the most memorable play that came out of 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.599 Sunday's game against Washington. It's just sort of rhetorious, easy, Yes, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.880 it's turping Turpin right, all right, So let's just take 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.240 it a step further that if if you want this 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:10.479 team to tank, okay, and you're gonna sit all the 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.360 players who couldn't actually win the game for you, then 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.480 you would not have that moment of watching Cavante Turpin, 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.920 and you would not have the moments where thirty one 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.000 points are scored in the last three minutes of the game. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:27.080 There is value in the present, in what's happening right now, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.839 and forget about draft. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.720 It leads, it leads to unforgivable moments. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.880 Exactly, yes, right, so that there's a value in there. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:41.400 That's when Jerry then told his story about how important 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.799 winning is in a game in the NFL, no matter 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:50.320 what your record is, winning is important, and he and 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.240 I've heard this story one hundred times, but he told 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.760 the story about he's got a signed football from nineteen 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.640 eighty nine, the only game they won, and he said, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.960 he's got it up on his mantle. He said, he said, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.400 I don't know why he mentioned Herschel Walker because by 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.280 the time you won that game, Herschel was gone, right, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.760 I think because it was the ninth game of the season. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.160 You guys were owinging. And he talks about how he's 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.960 got this ball, and somebody came up to him and said, well, Jerry, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.160 why do you have this ball on display? You only 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.640 won one game, and he goes, because it was my 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:36.679 first win as an owner, and we won a game, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.520 and I'm very proud of the fact that they gave 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.360 me a ball for the win. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.720 And it means something to something different to every person, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.960 you know, to me, I played against Doug, you know, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.360 and to most of the guys out there, this is 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.640 a right that was still a rivalry. So you know, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.960 everything that goes into that, it's it's still relevant. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.600 Uh, you know, got my only in. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.120 Session that season, that for that season, But you remember her. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.520 I remember that game. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.680 So we just brought it up. He talked about it yesterday. Yeah, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.520 so come on, man, I thirty five years later I. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.080 Got fifty seven, but that one. Without that one, I 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.040 only have fifty six. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.040 And so people, Yeah, people don't understand if you prepare 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.360 for something you want to win. How do you tell 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.280 you tell Turpin slowed out, don't be real, don't. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.640 Do something great. He's gonna do something great this game 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:35.080 because of what. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.360 He's a restricted free agent next year. He's got to 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.240 worry about making money. You think Josh Butler doesn't want 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.000 to play hard. It's a second NFL start in his 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.439 career at twenty eight years old. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.320 By the way, I sent the video out to all 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.559 the ladies in my family and there they're like, who the. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.560 Cool jazz, Oh the one that Yeah, send it out 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.200 to the ladies of. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.120 The pretty brown skin. Yeah, yeah, he plays. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.439 You need to play. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.360 I mean, you think TJ. Bass doesn't want to play, well, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.520 you're gonna tell him to turn it down. He comes 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.079 into the league as an undrafted free agent. He's a 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.160 second year player, barely gets to play he's gonna play. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.520 His heart out. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.400 So yeah, I mean it's just ridiculous. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:27.280 It's hard to tank a game and everyone is not involved, right, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:28.120 you got. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.160 So many It's not like basketball, you only got five 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.200 guys out there. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.760 It's kind of like you have the rumors out there. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.760 And I don't know, I guess true or not of 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.959 Super Bowls that have been tanked, a big championship games 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.280 that have been tanked, and I think they had a 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.960 game that I was involved in. And so my thing is, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:56.120 I didn't get the memo. You know, don't I don't. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.000 You know, you gotta let everybody know. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.559 Like the Black Sox scandal, I didn't tell. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:06.360 All night, tell everybody, so you know, to be able 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.160 to tank that. There was some games where they talked 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.760 about the Super Bowl where they thought that Earl morrole 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.240 the Coats. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.720 Yeah, Jets coach yet super Bowl. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.280 They were saying that Earl mare through the game. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.240 Did did they make money for it? 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.360 I said one of the players, I think Diacon Jones. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.199 He said that people, I think, you. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.920 Know, Dick would have been involved in that game. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.600 But who was the other big mean guy for uh, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.040 for the Coats? 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.320 It was he was for the Coats, Big Daddy Lipskin. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.040 Bubba Smith. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.000 Bubba Smith said, if he ever sees Earl Morrell or something, he's. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:50.800 Gonna choke him or something. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.760 Really, I gotta find That's why I said when I 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.960 said come out with stuff. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.959 You know, I have my truth. I have my truth. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.079 So if I'm wrong, I will admit it here on. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.880 The Airka, I'll go searching for. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.040 That, you know. And I'm sure there's people thinking, well, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.800 the Giants are tanking. No, they're saving salary cap money. Well, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.560 the reason they didn't want Jones to get hurt. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.240 And by the way, the reason that you tank is 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:25.000 for what Yeah, and usually a quarterback, right, okay, and 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.800 you've got your quarterback, okay. And by the way, there 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.840 have been picks. How many times have picks been made 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.120 in the top five that did not turn out to 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.000 be good by various teams? 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:37.240 Right? 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.120 And that was Jerry's point. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:46.240 How about how about Michael Parsons, Okay, who the Cowboys drafted, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.480 traded down and drafted one of the best players on 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.280 the team, one of the best defensive players in the league. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.920 He hadn't got me yet, and had the Cowboys been 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.680 and had the Cowboys pick fifth in that draft. Instead 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.240 of that, they had the tenth bait and they traded 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.440 down to eleven or something whatever they did from nine 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.760 to eleven. All Right, if they had the fifth pick, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.640 they wouldn't have drafted Michael Parsons. They probably would have 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.200 drafted a cornerback or somebody, you know, because of need. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.439 So just because you've got a higher draft pick doesn't 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.600 mean you're going to draft a better player either the 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.959 way they will shake out in the draft. I mean, look, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:25.000 how many good great players in this organization were taken 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.760 mid to late first round. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.880 So anyway, it's a it's a dumb thought. It is, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.040 all right, So I could have picked a better word, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:37.760 but it's a dumb thought. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.600 What else did you gather out of? Was there another 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:42.240 headline that? 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.559 Uh see, that was two of them? 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.920 Okay, so the tanking headline and the McCarthy headline, okay. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:56.040 Yeah, And and and just talking about how hard these 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.679 guys have played. They not might have played well, but 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:05.240 they've played hard. Uh. And the fact that they got 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:11.280 all these young guys playing, and Jerry said that they're 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.640 they're improved and they're gonna get better going forward for 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:21.120 next year. That's important that you you know, you win 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:22.160 some games. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:22.760 Now. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.520 The other thing is, and Bill brought it up yesterday, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:35.840 they're playing two and nine, four and six, trying to 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:41.920 remember whatever Marilina is and then Tampa Bay's got to 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.760 Tampa Bay four and six, a winning record by the 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.760 time the Cowboys playing. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.120 But your point is. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.400 There's there's there's teams of your own ilk that you're 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.520 now gonna face and maybe you can win them. And 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.360 it doesn't matter if it's home or away. I mean, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.480 if you look at the teams they lost at home, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.559 they're all in first or second place except for New Orleans. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.400 If you go back to the history of this team, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.920 because the Cowboys couldn't win on the road last year 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.120 the year before, right, right, And if you go back 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.000 and look at who they played on the road versus 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.160 at home, it typically is the better teams they played 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.040 at home this year and the better teams they played 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.280 on the road last year. And so that is what 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.720 was reflective of why you have a worse or better 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:28.280 home versus road run. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.720 And it's like the perception that always was out there 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.920 that the Cowboys had the advantage on Thanksgiving playing at 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.080 home on a short week, right, Well, When they were good, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.280 they won on Thanksgiving. When they sucked, they lost on Thanksgiving. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:43.480 It didn't matter. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:49.120 Well, you know the thing about the media, it's just 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.760 the way it goes. It's a stowy either way. Yeah, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.360 it's a stowy either way. Right, they can sit up 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.000 here and throw out all of these rumors and give 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.360 creetens to it. Ask him a question, no matter what 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.359 his answer may be, Jerry or Kevin or Mike McCarthy, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:14.160 you're gonna be you know, they're going to overanalyze those words. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.880 And in the meantime, you're talking about people out there 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.080 who are, like you said, trying to do their job. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.680 They're trying to carve out a living for themselves in 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.320 the NFL, whether it's practice squad, you know, whether you're 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.480 coming from another team trying to prove yourself. You gotta 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.239 drag your family with you. And so there's all this speculation. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.720 But then you've got individuals who are going to be 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.480 targets of those speculations. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:42.160 You see. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.640 So when that when you make a determination about an 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.320 individual and everyone talks about how yeah that they give 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.120 credence to that, So then this individual may pop out 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.440 and undo all of that you know, by him being 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:57.680 a stronger person. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.520 He got through it all. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.960 Whatever that was that you would throwing at him, Well, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.440 he's gotten through it all. Now, well, the media won't say, hey, man, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.880 well sorry, they're gonna say that's another story. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.600 So it's always a story, you see what I'm saying. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.280 You're gonna win either way as media, you know, And 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.440 it's up to us to be the characters in the game, 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.480 you see, because now it's like, well, let let's say 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.720 Michael Downs, Michael Downson is he's not supposed to be here. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.240 He was't supposed to play as well as he did, 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.040 you know, And they'll go over all the reasons that 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.520 Michael Downs should not be a. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.280 Good or, if you want to put it in present day, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:36.640 Josh Butler. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.120 Yes, yeah, right now, we're going to all the reasons 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.880 that Josh Butler should not be here. Well, all of 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.840 a sudden, he comes in, he starts making plays forget 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.360 that copy, right, I'm going ahead with this one, and 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.640 you're going to contradict yourself in the meantime, and who knows, 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.800 but they don't care. They don't care about the contradiction. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.040 They won't go back and say, oh, man, I was wrong, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:00.960 and the process. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.560 Of here's why, here's why this guy wasn't drafted. He 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.840 can't do this, can't do this, and then all of 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.040 a sudden he starts playing well, and well, he can't 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.840 do that, he can't do this, he can't do that. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.200 Sort of like sort of like all the stories before 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.880 the Washington game on how Washington figured it out. They 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.920 know how to win, they know how to run their organization. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.000 They're so head out. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.280 There individuals on this team on why Washington's is going 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.200 to do this right, So now you're selling this guy's 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.240 reputation in the process, and then all of a sudden 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.120 he comes back and he doesn't plays well. You might 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.800 mention that he played well or not, it doesn't matter 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:42.840 because now we're moving. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.000 On to the They went out, all the all the 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.720 players left the Cowboys to follow Quinn, who, by the way, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.720 had it all figured out right, And then after the Laws, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.080 after the win, it's like, oh, well, look what these guys. Yeah, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.360 well what about those guys you said we're so good? 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.360 They left? Well, they left because they made more money. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.320 Than narrative changes, just like that. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.480 How about this one? So the Cowboys lost five in 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:11.000 a row, then they win one. Somebody asked McCarthy yesterday, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.520 You've always said that, you know, when you lose, it's 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.120 you you get guys attention. But now that you won one, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:26.280 do you worry about getting their attention? Huh? Seriously? You 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:33.320 know what his answer was. He said, we're still pretty 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.439 far down in the valley of adversity. 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