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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It seems more like Friday, though, because we've got a

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Speaker 3: game on Thursday. And I've got one question right off

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Speaker 3: the top, because it was so easy to get a

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Speaker 3: parking place here today.

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Speaker 2: It was so driving here today.

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Speaker 3: Actually, and they after drive in the afternoon this week

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Speaker 3: and it's like everyone's out Christmas shopping already or something.

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Speaker 3: But the highways are flooded with people.

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Speaker 4: I'm just realizing why the pluckt is.

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Speaker 3: Because it's Thanksgiving week? Yes, solo place or something like?

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Speaker 4: What has happened?

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Speaker 3: That's my question. Do people in the real world, not

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Speaker 3: in this fantasy world that we live in, do they

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Speaker 3: just take off all week for Thanksgiving? I think back

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Speaker 3: back in the day, back in the day, we went

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Speaker 3: to school until Wednesday, absolutely, and then we got Thursday

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Speaker 3: and Friday off whatever. But now obviously there's no school

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Speaker 3: this week, and then do people just take off all week.

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Speaker 2: That's why there's so much travel going on.

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Speaker 5: Well, I do know that cowboy football players themselves microphone

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Speaker 5: the holidays.

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Speaker 4: The holidays mean nothing to us and our families.

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Speaker 2: Working the last holiday, the last holidays July fourth, you're

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Speaker 2: working all the rest.

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Speaker 5: I never really had a Thanksgiving, you know, back when

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Speaker 5: you play, you just never had one, you.

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Speaker 3: Know the way then the way the NF that's right,

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Speaker 3: even Labor Day you're working because they've started game week.

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Speaker 3: For the mean, there's not a game. The NFL does

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Speaker 3: not have games on Labor Day weekend anymore, but it's

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Speaker 3: for the media and for nothing. The players will get

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Speaker 3: off on Labor Day weekend, but they've got to be

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Speaker 3: back to work by Monday.

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Speaker 5: Labor Day, Christ Lady, Christmas, Labor Day, you labor.

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Speaker 2: That's the first day of the season.

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Speaker 4: Labor Day, you labor, and no other way to put it.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, So it's a great time for tours here

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Speaker 3: at the start in Frisco because there's.

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Speaker 2: Some going on.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow. We just won a game, guys, I want.

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Speaker 3: I would say for those of you coming into town

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Speaker 3: tomorrow would be a great day to take a tour here,

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Speaker 3: no absol. You might be able to tap on windows

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Speaker 3: and see players and stuff getting ready for the game and.

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Speaker 2: Get in Bill's way, so he loses his concentration.

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Speaker 3: All right, It's a different schedule today because we've got

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Speaker 3: the Mike McCarthy press conference coming up middle afternoon sometime

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Speaker 3: this afternoon, right, and then practice is three thirty later

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Speaker 3: practice I think, and then the locker room availability is

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Speaker 3: like at five o'clock today, so so we push it

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Speaker 3: back because of the short week. We did have Jerry

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Speaker 3: Jones on the radio this morning and making some breaking

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Speaker 3: news headlines across the country today. Would you like to

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Speaker 3: fill us in, Mickey on what those breaking news?

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Speaker 2: Which which one is the uh? The uh the fact

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Speaker 2: that Mike Dorothy possibility that Mike McCarthy could be back

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Speaker 2: next year?

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Speaker 3: Uh huh?

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Speaker 4: What did they say?

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Speaker 2: That's what Jerry said, Oh, they asked him, and he said.

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Speaker 3: They asked him if he's going to be back next year.

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Speaker 2: They said, is there everybody's assuming he's not going to

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Speaker 2: be back next year? Is there any validity to do that?

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Speaker 3: And he goes So they were going through the back

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Speaker 2: It was like the question they.

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Speaker 3: Ask him this way, Let's say that, you know, there's

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Speaker 2: And they were, they were They were also proponents of tanking, right,

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Speaker 2: So they asked that question too.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, how do you think? How does that?

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Speaker 4: How does that work? You just don't play? What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people, because they're playing everybody right now, right.

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Speaker 3: People, Yeah, you don't play ever since you don't play

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well what taking the You don't play.

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Speaker 5: You don't play your foot and you know they don't

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Speaker 3: If the Pro Bowler, the ones who made the Pro

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened last day. That's what happened. Five

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Speaker 3: But Cavante Turpin did play, and so that ruined the day.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he spoiled Cate. Cavante spoiled the draft

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Speaker 2: So if you need to know if you need to

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Speaker 2: know how to ask questions. Don't say, well, we think

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Speaker 2: you should tank. Other people are saying you should tank.

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Speaker 2: What do you have to say about that? That's right,

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Speaker 2: it's other people, not us.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, other people. Be the guy next to them, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the people this guy over here.

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Speaker 2: And that's true too, by the way, when it was

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: So what's the most memorable play that came out of

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Speaker 3: it's turping Turpin right, all right, So let's just take

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Speaker 3: it a step further that if if you want this

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Speaker 3: players who couldn't actually win the game for you, then

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Speaker 3: you would not have that moment of watching Cavante Turpin,

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Speaker 3: There is value in the present, in what's happening right now,

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Speaker 4: It leads, it leads to unforgivable moments.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, yes, right, so that there's a value in there.

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Speaker 2: That's when Jerry then told his story about how important

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Speaker 2: I've heard this story one hundred times, but he told

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he mentioned Herschel Walker because by

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Speaker 2: I think because it was the ninth game of the season.

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Speaker 2: You guys were owinging. And he talks about how he's

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Speaker 5: And it means something to something different to every person,

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Speaker 5: you know, to me, I played against Doug, you know,

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, got my only in.

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Speaker 2: Session that season, that for that season, But you remember her.

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Speaker 4: I remember that game.

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Speaker 3: So we just brought it up. He talked about it yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so come on, man, I thirty five years later I.

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Speaker 5: Got fifty seven, but that one. Without that one, I

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Speaker 2: And so people, Yeah, people don't understand if you prepare

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Speaker 4: Do something great. He's gonna do something great this game

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Speaker 4: because of what.

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Speaker 2: He's a restricted free agent next year. He's got to

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Speaker 2: worry about making money. You think Josh Butler doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to play hard. It's a second NFL start in his

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Speaker 5: By the way, I sent the video out to all

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Speaker 5: the ladies in my family and there they're like, who the.

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Speaker 4: Cool jazz, Oh the one that Yeah, send it out

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Speaker 4: to the ladies of.

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Speaker 3: The pretty brown skin. Yeah, yeah, he plays.

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Speaker 4: You need to play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think TJ. Bass doesn't want to play, well,

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Speaker 3: His heart out.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to tank a game and everyone is not involved, right,

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Speaker 2: So many It's not like basketball, you only got five

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like you have the rumors out there.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know, I guess true or not of

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Speaker 5: Super Bowls that have been tanked, a big championship games

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Speaker 5: I didn't get the memo. You know, don't I don't.

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Speaker 5: You know, you gotta let everybody know.

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Speaker 2: Like the Black Sox scandal, I didn't tell.

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Speaker 5: All night, tell everybody, so you know, to be able

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Speaker 5: to tank that. There was some games where they talked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jets coach yet super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: They were saying that Earl mare through the game.

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Speaker 2: Did did they make money for it?

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Speaker 5: I said one of the players, I think Diacon Jones.

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Speaker 5: He said that people, I think, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Dick would have been involved in that game.

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Speaker 5: But who was the other big mean guy for uh,

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Speaker 2: It was he was for the Coats, Big Daddy Lipskin.

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Speaker 4: Bubba Smith.

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Speaker 5: Bubba Smith said, if he ever sees Earl Morrell or something, he's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna choke him or something.

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Speaker 5: Really, I gotta find That's why I said when I

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Speaker 4: You know, I have my truth. I have my truth.

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Speaker 4: So if I'm wrong, I will admit it here on.

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Speaker 3: The Airka, I'll go searching for.

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Speaker 2: That, you know. And I'm sure there's people thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: the Giants are tanking. No, they're saving salary cap money. Well,

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Speaker 2: the reason they didn't want Jones to get hurt.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the reason that you tank is

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And that was Jerry's point.

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Speaker 3: How about how about Michael Parsons, Okay, who the Cowboys drafted,

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Speaker 3: He hadn't got me yet, and had the Cowboys been

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Speaker 3: down to eleven or something whatever they did from nine

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Speaker 2: They're gonna eat the cheese.

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Speaker 3: wild card spot in the UNFC at five and seven.

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00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: The Commanders are at seven and five.

442
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: Can I go further?

443
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: Yes you can.

444
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 2: So the other teams that are ahead of the Cowboys

445
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: Arizona six and five. So these are the non.

446
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: First, non first place teams teams in the wild card

447
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: hunt right now.

448
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: The Rams are five and six, San Francisco's five and six,

449
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Tampa Bays five and six. So when you're talking wild

450
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 2: card at this point, it would be Minnesota nine and two,

451
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: Green Bay eight and three, and Washington seven and five.

452
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: So let's just say it continues to play out where

453
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: all those teams play at that same level or roughly, okay,

454
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys go on a roll against these teams

455
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: without a winning record, and they get to Christmas and

456
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: they're basically at five hundred or it will be five three,

457
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: three games left. They beat Tampa Bay right before Christmas.

458
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: Now you're eight and seven with two games left, and

459
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: you've got Philadelphia and Washington left play. Okay, The point

460
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: is all they have to do before the last game

461
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: of the season is if it plays out like we're

462
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: suggesting it could, is be one game behind Washington going

463
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: into the last game of the season, and they could

464
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: be playing for a wild card spot because all they

465
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: have to do is be equal with Washington. They don't

466
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: have to be ahead of Washington because if they beat them,

467
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: they'd have the tiebreaker.

468
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: And that game won't be flexed the way everybody's suggested already.

469
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: It's going to be flexed because it's not.

470
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: Going to meet it has TVD, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

471
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: But all of them are TVD right now, Well.

472
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: There was another one that was almost one that they wanted.

473
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Now I'm telling about that weekend because they want.

474
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: To Cowboys game. Could that be flexed? It's a Monday

475
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: night game? Do they flex Monday Night? I don't think no,

476
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: specially cowbolated networks want them play.

477
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Were within two weeks of that.

478
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Game, especially especially if they.

479
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: Now, especially since the season was turned around on on

480
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin's turnaround kickoff return.

481
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 9: What a spin move it was. He spun the season around. Okay,

482
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 9: so that's reason there is still hope in that locker room.

483
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 9: There may not be a hope anywhere else, but in

484
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 9: that locker room, there is still hope.

485
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: So I won't go through what we did with the Giants,

486
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: but here's the people that are on the Cowboys injury port.

487
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: And he did this during the break. He went through

488
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: the Giant's injury report.

489
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I only recognized a couple names. Sorry, Now,

490
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: somebody just looked at the Cowboys, would they recognize Deron Bland,

491
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, Trayvon Diggs, Jake Ferguson. He went to the

492
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl.

493
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: All four that you mentioned have been to Pro bos.

494
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Eric Ricks.

495
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 3: Been to a Pro Bowl. He's been to a Pro Bowl.

496
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: Zack Martin he's been to several. Tyler Smith he's been.

497
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: These are the guys that are on the Cowboys injury report.

498
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: These are guys that have been to the Pro Bowl. Now,

499
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people know who.

500
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: And that's not even counting the Dak Prescott's and DeMarcus Lawrence's.

501
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: Because they're not even on the team right now.

502
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, so who's playing on this?

503
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: So my guess is awesome. Richards is out. He's got

504
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: a high ankle spring. Yeah, he's got a high ankle spring.

505
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: So probably a couple of weeks.

506
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

507
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson as of yesterday was still in the concussion protocol.

508
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard for him to get out of

509
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: it in time. So maybe Cincinnati, Zack Martin on a

510
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: short week, Tyler Smith a short week.

511
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: They didn't make the trip.

512
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: So now at least they got Tyler Smith as limited,

513
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: so he probably has a chance. They also have Cooper

514
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Rush listed as limited, but Mike thought that he's got

515
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: a little work to do, but he.

516
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Should be able to go. There's a knee.

517
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, issue, Brandon Cooks has a chance. They thought Brandon

518
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Cooks was going last week and he did too. He

519
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: got to Friday and something just wouldn't right, and so.

520
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: He made the trip though Diggs did not.

521
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Diggs did not and he was limited, and that said

522
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: questionable and I got a big two question marks after questionable.

523
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: You're questionable, you're not out, should be on the plane? Right,

524
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Well he wasn't just leave it at that.

525
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Maybe something happened on Saturday.

526
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kendrick's probably got his normal day off. Marshawn

527
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: Neelan ended up with a little bit of a We

528
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: talked about him yesterday, c D say yesterday, I remember

529
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: that he was going to get twenty some snaps.

530
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: And he got nineteen snaps.

531
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of it.

532
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: But he did and so he was fine coming out

533
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: of the game. I think, okay, all right, so he

534
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: can go again on Thursday.

535
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: Sjordan Lewis projected him full after missing the game.

536
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: You know he'll Jordan played.

537
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's right, that was the week before. Yeah, sorry,

538
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: Hunter Lipke, He's good to go. Calf Full.

539
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: They played, so the rest of them. So my question

540
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: is on the offensive line. It looks like Tyl where

541
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: they may get Tyler Smith back at left guard on Thursday.

542
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: Maybe not Zach right and so what what you do?

543
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: So then TJ goes over and plays right guard for

544
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: Zach Martin and brought Hoffman's your swing inside offensive lineman.

545
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: And you've got Tyler Geydon who came out of the

546
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: game four awesome Richards after he struggled there.

547
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: In the second half.

548
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: He came back in and and then he got another

549
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: colleague okay, And then he also had.

550
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Tuma Atoga the swing tackle.

551
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So is there a chance in your estimation since

552
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: Tuma has been injured all season, but he was ready

553
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: this past week and now now he's the guy that

554
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: takes awesome Richards spot as the next man in at tackle.

555
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: So would they be as quick on the trigger putting

556
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: Tuma into the game if Tyler Guyton struggles against Kevon Thibodeaux.

557
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Remember when Guyton went up against Thibodeaux the last time

558
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: he struggled, And Thibodeaux just came back this past week

559
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: from injury himself, but he played this past week.

560
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: But that was what the third game of the season.

561
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: That was into September yeah.

562
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: And some of those calls were yeah a little bit.

563
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: There was just some spin move activity that he was doing.

564
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Cavante turpin on him a little bit.

565
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: It's like the holding call he got he got Sunday.

566
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean, guy, he's got the guy blocked and these

567
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: guy's falling and he just shoves him to the ground

568
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: and jumps.

569
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: On kind of the Connor Williams holds or.

570
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: The are the ones that Tyler Smith was getting his

571
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: rookie year.

572
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: Connor Williams.

573
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Don't go to the ground with them because it looks

574
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: like you you held him and you threw him down.

575
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: The guy was already falling.

576
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 3: That's it.

577
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: He's done, And that's that's kind of what happened in

578
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: the New York game. He he was blocking him, but

579
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 5: he wanted to really yeah, right, and then that's why he.

580
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Got to take them the mean streak.

581
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: We'll take it out. You gotta know what when to apply. Yeah.

582
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he forgot to back off and tank right, right.

583
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Did you see how hard they were hitting on defense

584
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: by the way, some of the tackles they were making

585
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: flying right to the last kickoff return. No, I hope

586
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: that guy's Goodler, Yeah.

587
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: Your favorite.

588
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: And you smell his name, E K E L E

589
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: R Okay. I don't know where that E got in

590
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: there between the K and the L, right, But I

591
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: mean even in some of those tackles on the sideline

592
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: when they were trying to get someone down, guys were

593
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: flying in there. I don't know that I've seen that

594
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: as much.

595
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: There are times, man, when things just come together, and

596
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: that's why that's why you gotta let everybody know when

597
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: you tank.

598
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: It was like the Giants were taking on Sunday right,

599
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: the comments coming out of another locker room. I don't

600
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: know they were playing soft apparently.

601
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: There are times I talked to you about the Cardinals

602
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: game eighty seven when when we got guys all out

603
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: of position, everybody's hurt. We got Steve Dias at outside linebacker,

604
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: guys that if you got, you got no Steve yass.

605
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: It don't work. That does not fit. He does not run,

606
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: you know, he he lumbers.

607
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: But if you tak you tank for a quarterback. And

608
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: the Giants have a reason to tank because they need

609
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

610
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: You don't like the veto.

611
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't Oh, where we're going now?

612
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 8: I was looking for the.

613
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Cardinals game.

614
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: This year.

615
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: He's looking for the game.

616
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: Eighty seven.

617
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: Now, it didn't talk to him.

618
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: It was at close to the end of the season.

619
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: It was still Saint Lewis then Sat Lewis card.

620
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you.

621
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: Played them the first game of the season and the

622
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: last game of the season. Maybe it was a different year.

623
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: What happened in the last game of season?

624
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: You beat him twenty one to sixteen. Yeah, yeah, that's

625
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: the game with and Jeff.

626
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: Ward and they were doing one.

627
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: They were actually playing well.

628
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: He was saying, who had to play out of the position?

629
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Out of position?

630
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I said, it's like it'd be

631
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 5: like putting me a strong safety when I played at

632
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: worse than that, because I could have done decently. But

633
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 5: Steve Diasti had never played outside linebacker. That's a that's

634
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 5: a position of fluidity.

635
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: You know, he maybe middle if he was playing linebackers, Well, yes, that's.

636
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: What he's playing.

637
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: He played.

638
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: He's a middle linebacker. That's he is. He is all that.

639
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: But when you switch it, that's like saying having.

640
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 3: Block, he's to block him. He was the nineteen thirty

641
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: five range middle linebacker.

642
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: He's that Carr Baker, He's that.

643
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: He's not he doesn't have the athleticism of a chuck.

644
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: How he does that, he won't be He won't be

645
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: a Ferrari. He would be a dump truck.

646
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: You you lost four games in a row that year,

647
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: that's right, and then you stepped on the gas the

648
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: last two and beat the Rams and beat the car.

649
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: With that group of linebackers.

650
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: That's my point to get to seven and eight, to get.

651
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: To seven and eight, So think about that. That's the comparison.

652
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 5: But to that and now is pretty spot on, pretty

653
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: spot on. You got guys all out of position and

654
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: and they played well. They played welldos was was sniffing

655
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: out plays with between linebackers and combos with with fullbacks

656
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 5: and running backs. It was, it was, It was something

657
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: to behold and.

658
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Thanks thanks to the replacement players, you got off to

659
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: a three and one start.

660
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Look at that his Wikipedia Steve Diassi's Wikipedia page, and

661
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: this this perhaps will paint a picture of what Steve

662
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Dissi looked like as a football player. If you ever

663
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: watched The Flintstones, Yes, his nickname was Barney Rubble.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was red because.

665
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Speaker 3: Beach ball. Beach ball was more than red because of

666
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: the many shades of color. His face would turn in

667
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Speaker 3: the sun.

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Speaker 5: I hope you're not eating, but you know, when you're

669
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Speaker 5: in the locker room, you see more than that. And

670
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Speaker 5: there were more shades to come along with it.

671
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Speaker 2: I never I think I there's there's only two guys

672
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: probably on that team that maybe slept the most during

673
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: the noon hour when we were in there, Diosse Yeah

674
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Speaker 2: and too Tall.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and both of them for good reason.

676
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they was a sleeping going on.

677
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Speaker 3: One other note from the Wikipedia page on Steve Diassi.

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Speaker 3: As described by Bill Belichick in a twenty eleven press conference,

679
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: Dioce's ability to snap the ball and block in the

680
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: same play was exploited by the Cowboys to spread the

681
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Speaker 3: punt formations and use less blockers, revolutionizing the punt game.

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Speaker 5: So true, okay, and his son followed in those footsteps.

683
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Zach Diassi.

684
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: Zhack dios just retires.

685
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Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty nine, though Steve dis clashed with the

686
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Speaker 3: new coaching staff that was brought in by Jimmy Johnson,

687
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Speaker 3: was traded to the Giant.

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Speaker 5: And when I say he was one of those players

689
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Speaker 5: that didn't care what the narrative was when it came

690
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: to his style of play whether he started or not.

691
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: In most games, he didn't start. In New York, Gary

692
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 5: Reasons was our one of our middle linebackers out of Crowley, Texas.

693
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Speaker 4: He had a stadium named after him in Crowley. If

694
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Speaker 4: I'm nothing sake, and he.

695
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Speaker 5: Was injured, Steve comes in along with Pepper Johnson on Friday.

696
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Speaker 5: When they way in they are about two fifty five.

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Speaker 5: By the time the game starts on Sunday, there are

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Speaker 5: about two seventy five. And we played up against teams

699
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Speaker 5: that tried to run the ball up the middle. And

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Speaker 5: this is the first time I heard the term bust

701
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 5: the b and that's what they did. The guards were uncovered,

702
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: they came out to meet our two linebackers and there

703
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 5: was no getting past them. That was the most impressive

704
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: streak of run defense I've ever been a part of

705
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Speaker 5: in my entire life. That I think we went on

706
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 5: three straight games without Reasons and Diosce was in there.

707
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Speaker 5: I don't know why they didn't try to explore him

708
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 5: more on passing, but they tried to run the ball

709
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 5: and I could see it. They would hit the guards

710
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Speaker 5: so hard. You know where CTE comes from. They would

711
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: hit them so hard there was nothing in there. Barry

712
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Speaker 5: Sanders was a victim of it. The Detroit lines was

713
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Speaker 5: a victim of it. I saw Barry Sanders afraid. I

714
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Speaker 5: saw him afraid. You could see it when you got

715
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Speaker 5: the ball. He was not trying to run, he was

716
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: trying to fall. I never seen anything like that. And

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Speaker 5: Steve Diosse and Pepa Johnson. You put those two guys

718
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Speaker 5: in the middle. You don't burst that, Bob, not at all.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was so impressive. We went on a three game

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Speaker 5: UH win streak after we had finally lost a couple

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Speaker 5: of games, because we thought we were going undefeated that year,

723
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Speaker 5: but after we lost a couple of games.

724
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Speaker 4: I think one of the two or three game win Street.

725
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Speaker 5: Simply because our defensive linebackers played so well. And when

726
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Speaker 5: he came down to it, Gary Reasons couldn't wait to

727
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Speaker 5: get back and get his job back because he was

728
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Speaker 5: about to lose it because of that, because of Steves

729
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Speaker 5: and how effective we were playing against.

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Speaker 2: Him, and leaving opened the door for another deep snapper character,

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Speaker 2: Dale Hellesdale.

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Speaker 2: are we bring it here? He didn't realize he was

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Speaker 2: the deep snapper.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't built like a line but right, build more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they traded for him, I believe front because

740
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Speaker 2: he was with the Raiders. Yep, that's right, and they

741
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Speaker 2: traded for Dale hell Street.

742
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Speaker 4: It wasn't mobility. He was made to just snap the balls.

743
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Speaker 2: And it was always amazing when I saw him run

744
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Speaker 2: down field and make a tackle.

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Speaker 3: And he and he says a lot about the Cowboys.

746
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Speaker 3: It's when your deep snapper has his own radio show.

747
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Speaker 3: And that's says the America's tea. Yeah, that's right. And

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Speaker 3: one other note on deep snappers, the diocees Steve diasan

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be there Friday night past Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Might be going to a high school game there Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Oh really it was playing.

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Speaker 2: Highland Park and Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Ready, yeah, right, that's gonna be a Randy Allen's Highland

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Speaker 3: Parks guyes. They got a sophomore quarterback named Buck Randall.

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Speaker 4: I saw that.

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Speaker 2: What a great name.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, we got a couple of minutes left.

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Speaker 2: Here, a couple things more from McCarthy. I guess it

810
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Speaker 2: was maybe the game uh jan ye Tom mus mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: He said, yeah, that was a no Moss play.

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Speaker 3: Now who said that McCarthy one yet?

813
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no Moss. He said he should have gone down

814
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Speaker 2: at the ones you could because if he went down,

815
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: then the clock's running.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to score. Bro it goes out, Yes,

817
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Speaker 4: I scored.

818
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Speaker 3: The thought would have run through your mind to fall down.

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Speaker 5: I am not going to lie to you. It would

820
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Speaker 5: not have even been run through anywhere I was going

821
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Speaker 5: to score. I would have scored.

822
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Speaker 3: Admitted that it went through his mind.

823
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Speaker 2: Yes, right, It wouldn't have even gone through my mind.

824
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Speaker 4: It would not. It would not.

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Speaker 2: I said, if we can't hold him off.

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Speaker 3: Well you got it in your own hands though, to

827
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Speaker 3: stop the hill. Mary, Yeah, that would too, I guess,

828
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Speaker 3: being a dB. Now having said that, about one ye

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Speaker 3: there was the play on the goal line where an

830
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Speaker 3: edge was not set the touchdown run. Yes, it was

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Speaker 3: evident that defensive players immediately went to him and said,

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Speaker 3: you gotta shut the edge.

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Speaker 2: Parsons, I believe.

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Speaker 3: And there were there were others too that were headed

835
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Speaker 3: his direction, because I'm sure that's what he was thinking.

836
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Speaker 5: Okay, we all know what we got to do here,

837
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Speaker 5: and he assumed. I guess everyone's on the same page.

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Speaker 5: We got to set the edge. He was part of it,

839
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Speaker 5: but you know he was to set it.

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Speaker 2: He was supposed to feel it taken out too, didn't

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Speaker 2: get over you got he went instead of staying there.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you go yet, you have someone there still

843
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Speaker 5: to set the edge.

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Speaker 3: But if it's your responsibility to set the edge in

845
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Speaker 3: that situation, and you said, I don't think it.

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Speaker 2: Was, well, the defensive end didn't help out.

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Speaker 5: I think the defensive end was supposed to set it

848
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Speaker 5: and he was going to make his move yet still

849
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Speaker 5: hoping that's that edge would be set.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going off of Micah's reaction. I think it's

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Speaker 3: Goldston too. They were both went in the direction of

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Speaker 3: jan Ye and.

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Speaker 4: Just knowing people.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Parsons would be upset at someone unless

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Speaker 5: it was valid, Right.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, Josh Butler did get a game ball, sound like

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Speaker 2: he was going to be a captain this this week.

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Speaker 2: All yeah, yeah, And I suggested this after the game.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy was pretty even keel when he came in there,

863
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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, after I lost five games in a

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Speaker 2: row and I win one like that, man, I'm coming

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Speaker 2: in there like a storm, right, And I suggested he

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Speaker 2: should have got up there and said how about them cowboys?

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Speaker 4: But he No, this ain't the moment.

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Speaker 2: That ain't his persontiality, and it's not a good timing.

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Speaker 3: Yet, that's why Mickey, you're doing mix shots.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and I can throw them out on mix shots.

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Speaker 3: No, they're they're still in a valley of adversity.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's right, the valley of adversity.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty deep, pretty deep.

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Speaker 3: And they'll stay in the even with a victory Thursday,

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Speaker 3: victory in the next week, and the victory the next

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Speaker 3: week they beat, they're going to remain in the valley

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Speaker 3: of adversity for a while. That's a good place to

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Speaker 3: be in the valley of adversity.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll look at this. The veto was limited in practice,

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Speaker 2: and Locke will get reps in practice. Better watch out

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Speaker 2: for Drew Locke.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if we'll have a leaddown.

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Speaker 2: Guys, enough time to think about it.

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Speaker 4: We're already down.

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Speaker 3: The letdown would come to Nattie game get this one

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Speaker 3: if you win this one, and now you got a

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Speaker 3: oh weekend long, we got the mini bye. Decide that

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Speaker 3: you're all that again. So all right, we're out of

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Speaker 3: time already.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be here tomorrow ever since.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good, and we have to leave on

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Speaker 2: time tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you got an appearance.

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Speaker 2: Star Star Sports Tour reception, so.

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Speaker 3: You're the one responsible for these tours going everyone of

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Speaker 3: the tours.

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Speaker 2: Shake hands all the way out.

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Speaker 3: The doors, coming out right, okay, and we will shout

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Speaker 3: at you again tomorrow before the tour starts.

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Speaker 4: I go, cowboys.

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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