WEBVTT - 5: Catch and Release

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball is a hugely popular sport in the Balkan States.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a professional basketball player in say Serbia, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, a celebrity that said, no one can

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<v Speaker 1>play basketball forever. But when your time as a professional

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<v Speaker 1>athlete is over, there is another popular career you might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to presume. If you have the right set

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<v Speaker 1>of skills, the right connections, and the nerve, you could

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<v Speaker 1>become a criminal. I'm Natalia Antalava. I'm a journalist based

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<v Speaker 1>in Eastern Europe, and I'm going to take you into

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<v Speaker 1>the world of Serbia's most brazen jewel thieves, the most

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<v Speaker 1>daring and e says for diamond thieves in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty to forty seconds, they're in, they're out.

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<v Speaker 1>They've stolen half a billion dollars worth of valuables. Two

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<v Speaker 1>well dressed men strolled into an exclusive jewelry store in

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<v Speaker 1>London and walked out with sixty six million dollars in jewels.

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<v Speaker 1>They're called the Pink Panthers. They're a loosely connected group

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<v Speaker 1>of over educated, underemployed, ambitious young people who rose from

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<v Speaker 1>the ashes of the Yugoslav Wars of the nineteen nineties

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<v Speaker 1>to commit elaborate smash and grab heists all across the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>often in broad daylight. This is infamous international The Pink

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers Story Episode five, Catch and Release. In the years

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<v Speaker 1>following the Balkan Civil Wars, crime is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few steady lines of war available. Many ordinary citizens are

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<v Speaker 1>forced to resort to some form of criminality just to survive,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same goes for citizens who are not so ordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>OLIVERI Tcherkovich is a truly impressive woman, over six feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>blond and beautiful. She radiates supreme confidence and once you

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<v Speaker 1>know her story, you can understand why she has had

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<v Speaker 1>a very successful career, actually at least two careers.

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<v Speaker 2>In shebroked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my ex husband. He was a member of the

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<v Speaker 3>Pink Painters and he still is member of the Ping Pents.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera mostly speaks Serbian. That's her son, Nicholas translating like

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<v Speaker 1>she says, her husband was a Pink panther, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was not the life he wanted for her.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't want me to do that stuff because I

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<v Speaker 3>was the professional basketball player, so it was like unbelievable

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<v Speaker 3>for me to step in that side of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Olivera was a power forward for one of

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<v Speaker 1>Serbia's tom basketball teams, the Novasatska ze Ka. She made

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<v Speaker 1>good money and made smart investments around Belgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>I have you private business which did well. I had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of funny all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the civil wars in the Balkans break out

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<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen nineties and sanctions are imposed on

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<v Speaker 1>Serbian Oliveri's team can no longer travel to compete in

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<v Speaker 1>international games. To continue playing professionally, she has to leave Serbia.

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<v Speaker 2>So it all started when she first came to Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>The Spina Papa Joryu is a freelance journalist in Greece.

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen ninety one, the water upted in Yugoslavia, so

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<v Speaker 4>it was impossible for any kind of professionals to do

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<v Speaker 4>some living there. So she came in Greece in the

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<v Speaker 4>summer of nineteen ninety two to play professional basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she was quite a star in Yugoslavia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliveri is hired by one of the top teams in

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<v Speaker 1>Greece based in Athens. At first, she doesn't think of

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<v Speaker 1>her adopted city.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't very impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>She found the city a bit dirty, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in Athens. Such a love noctio door.

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<v Speaker 1>Love who has a way of leading to trouble. The

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<v Speaker 1>man Olivera falls for in Athens has an interesting way

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<v Speaker 1>of making a living and some interesting associates too.

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<v Speaker 4>So it all starts now because the whole pink Panther's

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<v Speaker 4>thing is connected with her husband, who she.

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<v Speaker 2>Met in as.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera said in an interview that she saw her husband

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<v Speaker 1>as a robin Hood figure stealing from the ridge, and

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<v Speaker 1>well that's where the robin Hood analogy kind of falls apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was her relationship with this man that leads

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera into her next profession.

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<v Speaker 4>When she got pregnant, she went back to Belgrade and

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<v Speaker 4>then it started.

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<v Speaker 2>So first she got in contact with the ring via

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<v Speaker 2>her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>This ring, as the Spina Papajoria calls it, is made

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<v Speaker 1>up of fellow Serbians who are doing brisk business in

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<v Speaker 1>Greece and across Europe.

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<v Speaker 4>This ring was bringing stolen goods to Serbia from abroad,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was mostly jewels and fashion brands, expensive fashion brans, clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>The sanctions against Serbia had created a super charged market

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<v Speaker 1>for stolen goods and it didn't just go away once

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<v Speaker 1>the sanctions were lifted, the Serbian economy was still in shambles.

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<v Speaker 1>On the streets of Belgrade, illicit merchandise was everywhere. Olivera's

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<v Speaker 1>son Nicholas explains how she got involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the relationship and marriage with him. She got closer

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<v Speaker 3>to those kind of people. So the people who still it,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't sell it like in real store, they sell

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<v Speaker 3>it like three times less price.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Olivera can see there is an opportunity here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got the legitimate businesses she's invested in around Belgrade,

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<v Speaker 1>and she certainly knows the right people.

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<v Speaker 3>So in Oliveda's mind, it was good point to start

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<v Speaker 3>buying the stuff from the criminals. And she already got

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<v Speaker 3>to the content with the people with the friends with

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<v Speaker 3>my father, so she got the idea to buy the

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<v Speaker 3>stolen stuff from them from the less money, and then

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<v Speaker 3>then sell them in the servia and earn like for

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<v Speaker 3>one day, she earns like one year basketball contract, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>With her fame, her looks and her connections, Olivera's business booths.

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<v Speaker 1>She told the British newspaper The Independent, quote, I even

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<v Speaker 1>had politicians, doctors and famous people coming to my makeshift

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<v Speaker 1>showroom to buy the stolen goods end of quote. She's

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<v Speaker 1>so successful that she outgrows her piecemeal suppliers. Here's Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>translating for her again.

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<v Speaker 3>At the one point, they don't have so many goods

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<v Speaker 3>as I want to buy because I'm selling it every day.

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<v Speaker 3>So they don't have enough money to go to another

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<v Speaker 3>country to steal something.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know where to go and what to steal that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make it faster to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>goods that.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sell.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm going deeper and deeper to the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon, Olivera was running her own tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Tea after a few months.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the absolutely one who is organizing the group.

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<v Speaker 1>She recruits the new crew members, and she has excellent

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<v Speaker 1>instincts for who will be a good getaway driver, who

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<v Speaker 1>is quick with tools, who will make the best team leader.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, on the very plans of Heights from Afar,

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<v Speaker 1>she carefully diagrams the store she's targeting, details the items

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<v Speaker 1>she wants her crew to steal. She makes a map

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<v Speaker 1>of the surrounding roads for their getaway. Her associates case

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<v Speaker 1>the store for weeks before striking. It's all working.

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<v Speaker 3>I have the people who are moving the stolen goods

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<v Speaker 3>by the borders. So I already have two or three

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<v Speaker 3>those personal stores in my own showrooms. So it's all circle.

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<v Speaker 3>All the people from the crime trust me because I

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<v Speaker 3>never come late to pay them. I always pay them

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<v Speaker 3>on time, and I'm doing it as someone who is

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<v Speaker 3>professional sports player, not a criminal. I have a sports discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that sports discipline. By the late nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera has become a major figure among the Serbian criminal class,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the only women with her own crew. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a new kind of celebrity for her.

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<v Speaker 2>In the criminal circles.

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<v Speaker 3>I get famous, kind of popular. We are doing well,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you become a member of my group that

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be reach in a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>So only one month you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Buy the best car, two months you will got the

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<v Speaker 3>new apartment in the luxury part of the city.

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<v Speaker 1>My colleague Alan Greenberg says Olivera's decision to join the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal world is not all that surprising.

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<v Speaker 5>For people of her generation. They really were forced to

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<v Speaker 5>get creative about how they were going to make a life.

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<v Speaker 5>Serbia was so cut off, the sanctions from the West,

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<v Speaker 5>just a general dismal economy, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, But what I don't get is like,

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<v Speaker 1>why Olivera. She's in a much better position than most Serbians.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is famous, she's got money, she is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a star.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely, she's head of the game in post war Serbia.

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<v Speaker 5>But when her basketball career was over, when she couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>play anymore and she wanted to have a business career,

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<v Speaker 5>she had to deal with the realities of life at home.

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<v Speaker 5>So she did get.

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<v Speaker 1>Creative, right, and we heard how they became very reliant

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<v Speaker 1>on the black market because of the civil war, and

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<v Speaker 1>that never really went away, did it, Right.

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<v Speaker 5>It becomes entrenched. It's very common and a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the goods people need or want medicine, cigarettes, designer clothing, jewelry,

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<v Speaker 5>it comes from the West. People steal it there and

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<v Speaker 5>then they bring it home to Serbia and sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds familiar for so much of the region.

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<v Speaker 1>But what makes Serbia difference is that anger towards the West. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they felt that they were being punished by the West,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like a lot of people felt justified.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it would be an exaggeration to say

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<v Speaker 1>that for Serbians it was almost patriofic to bring things

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<v Speaker 1>back from the wealthier countries to help people back home

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<v Speaker 1>in Belgrade.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's true when you talk to people who

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<v Speaker 5>live through this period, or even ask people in Serbia

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<v Speaker 5>now about the pink panthers, there's this attitude like, sure,

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<v Speaker 5>crime is bad, robbery is bad, but the West is

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<v Speaker 5>rich and we have nothing, so the hell with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera is happily running her own successful team of Belgrade thieves.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her husband have a son, Nicholas, but the

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<v Speaker 1>marriage doesn't end up working out. She leaves him and

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<v Speaker 1>finds a new love interest.

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<v Speaker 4>The story continues because she then was receiving the best

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<v Speaker 4>merchandise from a guy called Dragon Dragon yazid if I

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<v Speaker 4>pronounced it correctly, and she was so intrigued by this

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<v Speaker 4>personality of Dragon and she decided to come back to

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<v Speaker 4>Greece and meet him in person.

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon spelt drga n is a popular name in Serbia.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, this Dragon is not Dragon Mickage,

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<v Speaker 1>the pink panther who is arrested in the train station

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<v Speaker 1>in France after trying to buy a ticket with a

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred euro note. This Dragon was running a team

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<v Speaker 1>of jewel thieves in Athens. He and Olivera had been

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<v Speaker 1>doing good business together. Then they meet in person and

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<v Speaker 1>they fall in love. He's ten years younger than Olivera.

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<v Speaker 4>Was probably something like very intense feeling the love at

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<v Speaker 4>first sight, so she decided this way to participate in

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<v Speaker 4>a robbery in a big hotel jewel resort. This was

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<v Speaker 4>in the summer of two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera agrees to help Dragon case the jewelry store in

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury hotel. Like many of the female Pink Panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>her role is together intel on their targets, identify them

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<v Speaker 1>as merchandise, and assess the security. And like other women panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>she looks the part impeccably.

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<v Speaker 4>She visited the store before, pretending to be a wealthy

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<v Speaker 4>customer and being also a very impressive woman. She was

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<v Speaker 4>like a blonde one meter ninety two ninety three resuld,

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<v Speaker 4>so she didn't have much difficulty in frusuading the staff

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<v Speaker 4>in the junior store to show her the most expensive collections.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, she was screening the place to

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<v Speaker 4>see how security is like and pass the information to

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<v Speaker 4>her associates.

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<v Speaker 1>But after the robbery, oliver and her boyfriend hit a

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<v Speaker 1>stroke of bad block. They're in a routine traffic stock

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<v Speaker 1>when police discover incriminating evidence Dragon had left his cutting

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<v Speaker 1>tools in the trunk of their car.

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<v Speaker 2>She was arrested in them. She was really a starn.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how the media, the tabloids, they were like

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<v Speaker 4>the Amazon, the basketball. The Amazon was arrested and created

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<v Speaker 4>was a big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So she found herself Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>Although she kept the court of contact of the gang,

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't give anue away in the court and she

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<v Speaker 4>denied any involvement, but still she.

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<v Speaker 6>Was in Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera and Dragon are both sentenced to prison on the

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<v Speaker 1>island of Crete. She serves six years, but when she

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<v Speaker 1>and Dragon are released, are they reformed? They or not.

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<v Speaker 1>In March twenty twelve, Olivera returns to Athens and teams

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<v Speaker 1>up once again with her boyfriend Dragon.

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<v Speaker 4>She decided to come to Athens this participate in a robbery.

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<v Speaker 2>And this actually wasn't the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Timing this particular moment they chose from the robbery because

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<v Speaker 4>it was really very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>There was another robbery taking place at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Next stor another robbery taking place next door at the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same time. It truly is terrible luck.

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<v Speaker 4>So the police were there and shooting starts, which is

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<v Speaker 4>not usually in Greece.

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<v Speaker 2>It's highly useful.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pink Panthers plan their heis carefully. They make every

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<v Speaker 1>effort to avoid anyone being heard. But this is something

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<v Speaker 1>no one could plan for. Olivera's boyfriend, Dragon is shot

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<v Speaker 1>three times.

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<v Speaker 4>So her boyfriend was wounded very very seriously, and he

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<v Speaker 4>end it's up in the hospital and he was in

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<v Speaker 4>a coma for forty days.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera manages to escape, but she is beside herself over Dragon.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was ever a time to get out, it

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<v Speaker 1>is now. But she can't.

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<v Speaker 2>She apparently quite emotional.

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<v Speaker 4>She couldn't leave him here like that, so she went

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<v Speaker 4>back into the house they used, and the police raided

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<v Speaker 4>the house and they found her in there, along with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of incriminating the evidence from its robberies.

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<v Speaker 1>The police find masks, wigs, weapons, and fake identity documents.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera is arrested and lands back in a Greek jail,

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<v Speaker 1>this time in the infamous Athens prison called Corrida Los.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera loves to tell stories of her time inside Corrida Loss.

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<v Speaker 1>She claims that one cell made told her she had

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<v Speaker 1>killed her husband and his mistress then serve them in

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<v Speaker 1>a pie to the husband's parents, something out of a

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<v Speaker 1>Greek myth. But Olivera is unfazed by her experience there,

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<v Speaker 1>as she tells it, for many paying panthers, prison is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of finishing school. To be truly respected, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do at least one stretch. Again, this is her

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<v Speaker 1>son Nicholas translating.

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<v Speaker 3>Every criminal believe in that you are so smart that

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<v Speaker 3>there is no way for you to get into the prison.

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<v Speaker 3>And you are thinking like that until your first time

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<v Speaker 3>go to the prison, and then you learn that you

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<v Speaker 3>were just an amateur and you didn't know nothing about

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<v Speaker 3>the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison, it turns out, is a crucial aspect of a

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<v Speaker 1>panther's credibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anyone in the pink painters that has

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<v Speaker 3>not a serious prison sentence behind his back. Those who

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<v Speaker 3>say that they are so smart, they were pin ventors

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<v Speaker 3>and they never went to prison, that's all the lies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a true story.

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<v Speaker 3>So destiny of one good ping ventor is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money, a lot of fast money, prison one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent for sure. After the prison, again fast money, and again.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison Olivera makes good use of her time at Carida Loss,

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<v Speaker 1>but she doesn't plan to stay long. Journalistic spinup a

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<v Speaker 1>bar your you.

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<v Speaker 4>She started painting in prison, and she discovered she was

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<v Speaker 4>quite good to sea.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera Tchirkouture's artistic talent is more than a hobby. It

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<v Speaker 1>becomes part of her plan to escape.

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<v Speaker 4>So she had been thinking to escape since day one.

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<v Speaker 4>The prison officer was persuaded to let your.

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<v Speaker 7>Paint the prison governor's office while the governor was away,

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<v Speaker 7>and this was golden opportunity because the office was fifteen

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<v Speaker 7>meters from Colorida Lost prison entrance, that is, fifteen meters

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<v Speaker 7>from freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>As you might expect, Olivera has worked through the logistics

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<v Speaker 1>carefully and she's patient.

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<v Speaker 4>So since started painting endless hours and waiting for the

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<v Speaker 4>right moment, she had notified the Pink panther gun members

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<v Speaker 4>to come to others and rent an apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivera manages to get permission to buy art supplies from

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<v Speaker 1>outside the present and have them delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course this was part of the plan.

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<v Speaker 4>So her collaborators were strolling for weeks on ends outside

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<v Speaker 4>the prison walls, and the day comes Olivera is now

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<v Speaker 4>in the prison governor's office, so she gives a signal

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<v Speaker 4>with her mobile phone, which she had managed to smuggle

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<v Speaker 4>into the prison, and when the gate opened, her cellian

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<v Speaker 4>associate enters holding a bag with art supplies, and everything

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<v Speaker 4>happened within seconds. The man hit the prison officer on

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<v Speaker 4>the head, and Olivera just walked out of prison and

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<v Speaker 4>got on a motorbike that was waiting outside.

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<v Speaker 1>After the escape, Olivera heads on foot to the mountains

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<v Speaker 1>of Macedonia. A young accomplice is waiting there near the border.

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<v Speaker 1>He shows her the route across the mountainous terrain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred and fifty miles. Olivera tapes her wrists

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<v Speaker 1>and ankles as she would for a pro basketball game,

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<v Speaker 1>and she makes the climb. She's been given a map,

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<v Speaker 1>some money, and has set up meetings with contacts along

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<v Speaker 1>the route to charge her phone and get more supplies.

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<v Speaker 1>When she reaches the Serbian border, she finds a taxi

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<v Speaker 1>to drive her the last few miles to Belgrade. The

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<v Speaker 1>Greek press loved this story. Pink panther female prisoner vanishes

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<v Speaker 1>into thin air, exclaimed one headline. They called her a

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<v Speaker 1>spider lady and referred to her as an Amazon It

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<v Speaker 1>made for terrific copy. For Oliver, it's a point of

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<v Speaker 1>pride again.

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<v Speaker 3>Her son translates, I'm the first and only woman ever

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<v Speaker 3>escaped from the prison in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>But like every true team player, she shares the credit

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<v Speaker 1>for the win.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I escaped from the prison. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>made it. I was smarked by the time to make

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<v Speaker 3>a good plan for how to escape. But with all

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<v Speaker 3>those people who are ready to give the life for you,

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot escape from the prison.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the craziest things about Oliver's story is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that just a few months after escaping prison

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<v Speaker 1>and walking back to Serbia, she returns for another job

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<v Speaker 1>in Athens.

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<v Speaker 3>After I escaped. Three months later, I came back to

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<v Speaker 3>the same city and we did the armed robbery of

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<v Speaker 3>the jewelers store. Four days after we did it, well,

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<v Speaker 3>they arrest me.

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<v Speaker 1>Police raide Oliver's rented safehouse and find her with sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds of gold.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I was convicted organizer of the criminal gang named

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<v Speaker 3>Pink Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, Oliver is sentenced to thirty two years on

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen charges of aggravated theft and three

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<v Speaker 1>armed robberies. The authorities value the looted goods at more

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<v Speaker 1>than five hundred million dollars. Back in prison again, she

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<v Speaker 1>is deprived of her art supplies naturally, so instead she

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<v Speaker 1>turns to creative writing. She chronicles her criminal exploits in

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of diary, but on appeal many of the

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<v Speaker 1>charges against her are actually dismissed and her sentence is commuted.

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<v Speaker 1>After five years, she's again out of prison, this time

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<v Speaker 1>banned from returning to Greece.

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<v Speaker 3>I am free from the prison since twenty seventeen, so

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<v Speaker 3>I decided to change my life. I serve my prison sentences,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't own anything to anyone. Any country is

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<v Speaker 3>not looking for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore, Oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>She's done with the life of crime.

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<v Speaker 3>To step up out of the crime, it's really really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You need a lot of money to continue the life

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<v Speaker 3>that you get used to by doing that crime stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she's turned the story of her criminal past

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<v Speaker 1>into a new enterprise. She has speaking engagements, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube star. And remember that prison diary she kept, She's

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<v Speaker 1>turned it into three books. They're called I Pink Panther,

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<v Speaker 1>I Pink Panther two and I Pink Panther three all

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<v Speaker 1>have sold quite well in the former Yugoslavia. There's even

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<v Speaker 1>a TV series based on her books that's being developed

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<v Speaker 1>in Serbia. Olivera told the Greek journalist that she hopes

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<v Speaker 1>Uma Thurman will play her in the Hollywood version.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm representing not just the crime story. I'm representing my

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<v Speaker 3>life and my character, and my character is the character

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<v Speaker 3>of the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliveri. Tcherkovich says that prison is a necessary part of

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal education of any pig Panther, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>a limit to how much time behind bars a panther

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<v Speaker 1>is willing to spend, and as Oliveri's story shows, a

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<v Speaker 1>prison break is not that different from a heist. Both

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<v Speaker 1>involved tight security and armed guards. To pull either of

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<v Speaker 1>them off, you need careful planning, precision, and ingenuity, and

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<v Speaker 1>Oliveri is not the only Panther to stage an escape

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<v Speaker 1>that has all the flare and theatrics of one of

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<v Speaker 1>their heists. Over the years, the Panthers carried out prison

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<v Speaker 1>breaks all across Europe. In two thousand and nine, a

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<v Speaker 1>Panther from Bosnia was arrested after robbing a jewelry store

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<v Speaker 1>in Switzerland and given a six year sentence, but he

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<v Speaker 1>decided he would rather not stay the full time, and

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirteen he was sprung from his Swiss prison

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<v Speaker 1>by his fellow Panthers. The story was a sensation, like

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<v Speaker 1>in this report from ABC News, the media just could

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<v Speaker 1>not get enough of it.

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<v Speaker 8>Today, two vehicles crashed through the perimeter, pushed through layers

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<v Speaker 8>of barbed wire, got ladders up over the last of

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<v Speaker 8>the wire so their guy could climb over to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Pink Panther gang strikes again. The trucks

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<v Speaker 1>barreling through the gates, the ladders thrown over the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>the prison yard paralyzed by gunfire. But if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a closer look at the actual operation, much of it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to seem like a spectacle designed to draw the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of the media. Jack Johnson is an American expert

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<v Speaker 1>on prison systems who's worked for the Federal Bureau of

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<v Speaker 1>Prisons for the past twenty three years.

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<v Speaker 9>I will tell you that what you described to me

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<v Speaker 9>is just people practicing a trade, having a career criminal orientation,

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<v Speaker 9>and the escape is part of the trade. This is

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<v Speaker 9>rod interrelated organized criminal activity that's very regimented and very

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<v Speaker 9>methodical and so as brazen as it sounds, it probably

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<v Speaker 9>was calculated.

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<v Speaker 8>It was to be overkill, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>They didn't even need all that firepower. The guards didn't

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<v Speaker 8>have guns, So like a sensational as the escape sounds,

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<v Speaker 8>they know that they're not going to get resisted.

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<v Speaker 1>The po wasn't in. Panther who made this dramatic escape

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<v Speaker 1>had only two years left on his sentence. In another

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<v Speaker 1>Panther prison break, the men who escaped had just one

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<v Speaker 1>year remaining. Like stealing jewels who can't easily sell, these

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<v Speaker 1>prison breaks seem as much about the Pink Panther's own

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<v Speaker 1>mystique as anything else.

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<v Speaker 8>I keep going back to the oneywhere the person's a

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<v Speaker 8>year from release, you know, So what's the motivation for

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<v Speaker 8>something like that? Has to be more than just getting

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<v Speaker 8>somebody out of prison, So I think maybe it is

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of this is by design for the publicity,

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<v Speaker 8>for the sensationalism and the publicity.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain rve Konnon of the Paris Police had arrested the

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<v Speaker 1>Pink Panther, named Dragon Mikage after a high stat a

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<v Speaker 1>ski resort in the French Arms. Mikitch is a big

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<v Speaker 1>man six foot six and his fit. Conan had heard

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<v Speaker 1>that he did two thousand push ups a day. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why Conan had immediate doubts that the French authorities would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to secure their prisoner. And he told them, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to.

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<v Speaker 10>The prison to interview this guy. Okay, he was two

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<v Speaker 10>met as tall. That was impressed because the guy, he

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<v Speaker 10>was just a muscle. And I disc got after that

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<v Speaker 10>with the god of the prison. I said, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 10>you know the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very very fit.

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<v Speaker 6>You should be very careful.

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<v Speaker 10>And one week after that, at Conando attacked the prison

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<v Speaker 10>with a K forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the afternoon of October sixteenth, two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikitch had just entered the prison yard for his daily

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<v Speaker 1>exercise when two pink panthers pulled a venop outside the

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<v Speaker 1>prison walls, threw a ladder and wirecutters over the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and then while the shop at the guards with an

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<v Speaker 1>AK forty seven, Mikitch climbed the ladder, jumped into the

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<v Speaker 1>van and they all drove off.

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<v Speaker 10>They shot on the prison and they liberate the guy,

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<v Speaker 10>and the gay disappeared nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was totally lost.

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<v Speaker 1>It's widely assumed that dragon, Mikic went straight back to Serbia,

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<v Speaker 1>where he could live openly beyond the reach of French

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement, much to Captain Connan's frustration. Another person who

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<v Speaker 1>proved difficult to keep behind bars is Milan le Poya.

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<v Speaker 1>In our last episode, we said that Milan had also

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<v Speaker 1>managed to escape prison before his dramatic arrest in the

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<v Speaker 1>French border town of Jacques in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how he ended up in jail that first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Milan was wanted for the heist at the Hooper watch

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<v Speaker 1>and jewelry shop in Liechtenstein. He was caught during a

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<v Speaker 1>border crossing when Swiss police were able to match his

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints to the Liechtenstein robbery.

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<v Speaker 6>Milan Librier was first arrested in two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 6>when he entered Switzerland from France, and he was extraducted

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<v Speaker 6>to US.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Wallner is the prosecutor General for Liechtenstein. After Milan's

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<v Speaker 1>arrests and extradition, he was held in the country's only

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<v Speaker 1>jail well he awaited trial.

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<v Speaker 6>We thought we could bring him to trial, but he

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have the intention to stay with us and our

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<v Speaker 6>polices is not really very often confronted with criminals of

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<v Speaker 6>black calaber. So what he did was he had meticulously

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<v Speaker 6>planned to flee our small jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Liechtenstein is tiny population just under forty thousand, and the

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<v Speaker 1>single small jail is all they have. The police there

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<v Speaker 1>are more used to dealing with white collar crime. Serious

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<v Speaker 1>criminals are typically exported to Austrian prisons, and Milan happened

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<v Speaker 1>to know that the jail he was in did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a hospital on its grounds.

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<v Speaker 6>He one morning went to the fitness room in the

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<v Speaker 6>jail and he smashed his hand with a weight and

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<v Speaker 6>he was taken by two policemen to our local hospital here,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's when two men entered the hospital with kalashnikovs

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<v Speaker 6>and they managed to free him, and then it was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite its reputation as a finishing school for pink panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>prison was not where Milan Lipoye wanted to be. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, he had plans, and just a

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<v Speaker 1>few months later the world would see those plans come

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<v Speaker 1>to life as he and Boyana Mitch drove a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of Audis through the plate glass doors of the Waffi

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<v Speaker 1>Moll in Dubai. Milan's escape from the Liechtenstein jail might

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<v Speaker 1>have been a sore point for Robert Walner, but Warner

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<v Speaker 1>would see his prisoner again.

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<v Speaker 6>But he was re arrested later and extradited us again

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty ten, and this time we looked after him

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<v Speaker 6>very carefully until the trial and he wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 6>escape again.

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<v Speaker 1>Lalipoe was convicted for his role in the Lectinstein heist

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<v Speaker 1>and sentenced to nine years in prison. This time he

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<v Speaker 1>served his time. Coming up next on Infamous International, The

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<v Speaker 1>Ping Panthers Story.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys are hungry, they want to make some money.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the Ping Panthers, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is a highly organized criminal syndicate.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a bunch of these organizations.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like sales, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Or an informal network of thieves.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't necessarily make sense that there's this one centralized hierarchy,

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<v Speaker 11>either very complicated it's very hard to follow the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Or something else entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>We can say it was some kind of joint venture

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<v Speaker 3>business between organized crime and the state.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next time on Infamous International, The Pink Panthers Story.

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<v Speaker 1>Infamous International. The Pink Panthers Story was produced by Best

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