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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. It am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: the last show we.

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Speaker 3: Do, having a historic show. It's the end of the

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Speaker 3: phase one of the YouTube era too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's luck going on here.

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Speaker 1: You've been YouTube being pretty consistently here now for the

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Speaker 1: last what six to eight months?

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Speaker 3: Tyler, yeah, since August. Yeah, next time we get together

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Speaker 3: with Tyler, he's gonna be a daddy. You know. We

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Speaker 3: got all kinds of stuff going on, right, not as

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Speaker 3: much as him, right right, Just wait dude.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so today is our final session on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: You can still check those shows out. They're all backlog

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Speaker 1: there and you.

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Speaker 3: Can oh yeah, they all hold up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just like, get down to Ta's next week too,

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Speaker 3: and absolutely and studio be outside, see some people running around,

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, Matt, I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about what what we want to see

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Speaker 3: Okay. My big thing right off the bat is just

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Speaker 3: and that's preliminary scouting. I mean, I know who these

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Speaker 3: You know, what does dk Metcalf look like? I mean,

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Speaker 3: that are you know, I've seen their height, weight, speed

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff, and you know, running around to combine.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of the first thing. You know, they

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Speaker 3: look the part, and I don't know next. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would love we talked about the receiver yesterday.

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Speaker 3: You know, that someone that's not a draft pick to

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Speaker 3: tip of people's tongues, you know, or you know, unsolicited

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Speaker 3: names come up. You know, that's a big training camp thing.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Warren is the best example. I could remember, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough for the receivers in that regard because

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Speaker 3: It's seven on seven, it's routes right there and you

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Speaker 1: With that said, I I want to see Roman Wilson

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Speaker 3: Maybe even like running with the ones or shortly behind

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Speaker 1: If Roman Wilson in his second year, he didn't do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not asked him to be eliite neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Long contribute, yeah, yeah, I think he's a I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to see those guys take We've seen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson might win the end of second in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just think he's he's one of

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Speaker 3: Because I do think he's mostly slot. But we've had

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, give or tape. Who could go inside outside, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it'll block. And I mean he was a harbaughm

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Speaker 1: You know, ten yards split. I mean he's fast.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget about him.

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Speaker 1: This guy's this guy is a good football player. He

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Speaker 1: he came back, why couldn't Why didn't they play him?

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Speaker 1: No, right, there was nothing. And there's nothing worse for coaches.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing worse for quarterbacks than to have a wide

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Speaker 3: See against Tom competition or a playoff game, or you

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see if he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, folks, January and December in the NFL, aren't

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Speaker 1: Roman Wilson's last year at Michigan. Now, mind you, they

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Speaker 3: Ver No, no, No, that was not macarthy.

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Speaker 1: That was the thing with McCarthy. But forty eight catches,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty nine yards, that's sixteen point four

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Speaker 3: It was him and Lovelin where the whole passing.

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Speaker 1: He was the co offensive skill put Player of the

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Speaker 1: Of course, he's been out of sight, out of mind,

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Speaker 1: When's he going to get out there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think you should have a very

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Speaker 3: much different opinion at all. All you guys that were

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Speaker 3: super excited and watching them on Saturdays, Wolverines watch them

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's any different, you know.

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Speaker 1: No now in fact that he actually is going into

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Speaker 1: At least he's been there, he's through all the meetings,

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Speaker 1: he knows the offense.

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Speaker 3: He should have no mental errors, shouldn't. Yeah, right, that

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Speaker 1: Right, So that's one that I'm certainly going to be watching.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if TJ. Watt shows up for these,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe news, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Be a good deadline is a terrible word, but that'd

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Speaker 1: Guy because right now, he's missed nothing. Nothing. Everybody's been

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Speaker 3: He can lift weights elsewhere, he can train elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: But I urge everyone to look at Arthur Smith's history.

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Speaker 1: We are back. I am Dale. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt looking here on NFL dot Com. And

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Speaker 1: they had Tom Blairs put together list of the most

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Speaker 3: Okay, who might that be?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's good in protection, He's a force in the

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Speaker 1: He is a very good football player, and I think,

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Speaker 1: As well, he's physical, he does the.

438
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Speaker 3: Perfect fit for the system. And unfortunately he's Robin, you know,

439
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: I mean, because Batman's really good, you know, and I

440
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: love her Big, but her Big can't do what high

441
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 3: Smith does either, which is a big reason Sawyer's here right, right, right,

442
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: you know, they see all.

443
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: This anybody else you would put on that line.

444
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: I thought the choice was going to be Elliott and

445
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: I do you know, and especially the way you preface it,

446
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: because Steeler fans aren't short on this guy, because I

447
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: think everyone listening knows the contributor Elliott is.

448
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: But I thought that was going to be the pick.

449
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: Darn out Washington, because he's so hard to play against,

450
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: and he's a unicorn in this league and the Steelers

451
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 3: use him really really well and it's boring. Oh, they

452
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: run the ball a lot and he plays a lot

453
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: of double tight ends. Nobody likes playing against it.

454
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: If you've got that guy, that's why you do it.

455
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: And he's not just a tackle wearing a tight end number.

456
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: He can do more a lot in the receiving game

457
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: or enough to keep you honest. I think he's a force,

458
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: you know, that offensive coordinator. Not every offensive coordinators, but

459
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of them out there going. Man, I'd

460
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 3: love to find somebody like that. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely

461
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: one for me.

462
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: But I think you know, when you look at this

463
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: this roster, they've got several guys that would fit the

464
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: bill in.

465
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: That I hope, like An Eccles is the guy we

466
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: mentioned next year, you know, I mean some of the

467
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: new guys I don't want to mention that aren't returning Steelers.

468
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to a degree, Joey Porter Junior is

469
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: underappreciated and in some ways underappreciated by Steeler fans. I

470
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: don't know if they know how difficult what's asked of him,

471
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: what is asked of him, how difficult it is. And

472
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Speaker 1: you know, anytime I mention him, immediately there's a lot

473
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Speaker 1: of the on the message boards or wherever. If I

474
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: write about wait, what about all the penalties. If you

475
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: look at the penalties last year, they're not extreme. It

476
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: was all in like four games. And it's not that

477
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, he had twelve accepted against him. Yes there

478
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: were seventeen, but twelve accepted.

479
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: But the other guys that are high are also the

480
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: other good corners that have to cover.

481
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Speaker 1: For example, both Jets guys Read and Gardener, they both

482
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: had nine penalties last year each and neither one of

483
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: them played it. They both missed at least three games.

484
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: And they don't change sides. They don't change sides, they

485
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: don't follow you. If you play a lot of man

486
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL, you're going to get penalized.

487
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers played more man than the Jets too. Yeah,

488
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: those guys will play off.

489
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: And you know, so if you're playing a lot of

490
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: zone and you're just reading and reacting and going up

491
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: and tackling the tackle in the catch, you're not going

492
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: to get a lot of penalties. But if you're up

493
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: in somebody's face, you're probably going to get some penalties.

494
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: NFL in particular, Yeah, I don't think i'd get much argument.

495
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: I think Patrick's retains the best corner in the league. Right,

496
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: But even just watch him against Pickings early in the season.

497
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's grabby and there's flyes coming out and

498
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 3: it's a tough assignment.

499
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: The funny thing about that is that people will look

500
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: at that game, Well, he held Pickings to I can't

501
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: remember what three catches for forty yards or whatever.

502
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a stat line, but they moved the football.

503
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: He penalized like three times in again, all.

504
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: The hidden all the hidden yards. It was like one

505
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: hundred yard game.

506
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: He should have given up the long catch to Pickens

507
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: that was erased by a very questionable holding Calm Roderick Jones. Yes, yes, yes,

508
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: that I saw it on tape. You saw it on tape.

509
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: Everybody saw it happen. Patrick's certain he had a really

510
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: good game.

511
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: No he didn't. He really didn't. Like he would be

512
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: my first pick in a corner draft, Oh yeah, question.

513
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 3: But Pickens was the better player one on one Miday.

514
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Cornerback to me is the hardest job in the NFL

515
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: because all the rules are lined up there. Everything is

516
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: against you, everything is against you. You can't touch this guy,

517
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't and he can push

518
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: off and he can do what every like that never

519
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: gets called rarely, and if the cornerback breathes on the guy,

520
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: he's getting the call.

521
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: And there aren't many man coverage corners out there.

522
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: There really are.

523
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: It's a real shortage, and fewer than I can remember.

524
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 3: The only rule when I think we brought up last

525
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: week that is working in their favor is someone catches

526
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: a ball in the air and you can just try.

527
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: That's like the only thing that's gone their way in

528
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: the rule books in ten years. Yeah, so he's a

529
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: good one just because of the assignments. Now, he doesn't

530
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: have to have six picks to be highly appreciated.

531
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, there are people like I've gotten this a

532
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: lot too, a lot of pushback on it. Oh, he

533
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: wasn't as good last year as he was his rookie year.

534
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: Like I think what happens was he his passer rating

535
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: against last year was like seventy seven. That's really good.

536
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: I think he didn't play a ton the first couple

537
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: of games his rookie year, and then it was big news. Hey,

538
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: I went to coach and I want to follow ones.

539
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how much some of that

540
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: might be folklore too, whatever, And all of a sudden

541
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: he's following DeVante Adams around and all that. So everyone

542
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I think, went, whoa, we got the next Rod Woodson here,

543
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: you know, we got the next Mel Blunt. And the

544
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: next year he wasn't the best corner in the league.

545
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: So they think it's a step backwards, Like that's kind

546
00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: of unrealistic.

547
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think any team in the league

548
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: would be happy to have him.

549
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean he's the type of guy I

550
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: think you could trade for one of the few guys

551
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: you could trade for like a first round pick. Yeah,

552
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: I mean, like more than happy to have him, Like,

553
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: would give a lot up And when it comes time

554
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 3: to pay him. A lot of listeners will understand the value.

555
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: And actually, in some ways I thought he was better

556
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not saying he was made giant steps

557
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: in terms of coverage and that kind of stuff, and

558
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: the penalties happened, oh yeah, but he was a much

559
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: better tackler. Yeah, then he had been his rookie year.

560
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: That was the one thing I looked at him. Well,

561
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: he's a little iffy on the tackling stuff. He was

562
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: much better at that least much better.

563
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: And I never thought effort as a tackler was a

564
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: problem for him, but he didn't his posture as a

565
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: tackler and his balance wasn't as good and learning in

566
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: the NFL to do that it's difficult. I mean I

567
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: urge people to pull up some of his Penn State

568
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: scouting reports too. They never threw it.

569
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: Nobody threw out.

570
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: I mean it was like the first couple of games

571
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: they threw out him, and then like the last eight

572
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: or nine games of Penn State.

573
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: He saw like like fifteen passes.

574
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd get like a target or to a game

575
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: and they probably just pushed someone out of bounds, you know,

576
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: and he didn't have to do much you know, so

577
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: then you got to learn in the NFL, and to

578
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: his credit, he definitely put work in to become a

579
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: better tackler. Yeah. I mean he's not going to be Woodson,

580
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: He's not going to be a killer, you know, but

581
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: he's adequate now. You know where it was a problem.

582
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Before, Oh yeah, it was. It was something that was

583
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: certainly he needed to work on, and he obviously did. Now.

584
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I think this year, and I wrote about this today

585
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: in my five for Friday on Steelers dot Com. Rage

586
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: to check it out. Adding Darius Slay opposite him, I

587
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: think can pay some big dividends. I think Slay is

588
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: a more capable man cover corner than what they've had.

589
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: Over the last two years, including Peterson, Including.

590
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: Peterson, that version of Peter, Yeah, that version of Peterson

591
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: was a zone corner.

592
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: He was and he was with Vikings year before too,

593
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: and have a bunch of picks, but it was in zone.

594
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

595
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Jackson always has been. And I think Jackson limited them

596
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: a lot from that capacity.

597
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: But I think with that that cornerback duo they can play.

598
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: They can now play more. Man. I hope they do.

599
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: I hope they's more.

600
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: I hope they have more of an aggressive mindset and

601
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: putting these leaving these guys on islands with mink over

602
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: the top, and I that's part of the reason why

603
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: I wish there was one more, because I don't want

604
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: to lose that if either of them get dinged up.

605
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: And maybe that's Trice, you know who knows. But those

606
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: guys don't grow on trees either. It's like, yeah, I

607
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: want another offensive tackle too, but they're hard find. Yeah,

608
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: I got one of their name too. Okay, everyone knows

609
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Killer Brew is a good special teamer. Everyone listening knows that, right,

610
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: he's been here long enough, he's block kicks. I don't

611
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: know if everyone knows that he's like maybe the best,

612
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: you know, like one of the top three or four.

613
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: And I don't watch special teams tape. That's reputation. That's

614
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls things like that, like not that's that's teams.

615
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: When you step onto the field, they're saying, Okay, we

616
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: got designate two guys for that guy, because if we don't,

617
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna wreck the game. Yeah, and that opens things up,

618
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: like he didn't block a kick last year, but they

619
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: blocked three kicks and three game and he knows that

620
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: he's getting attention because he's getting the attention, and that

621
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: frees other guys up for one on one matchups or

622
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: two guys go to kill a brew and nobody blocks Jeremiah.

623
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: Moon exactly, know, exactly, right, exactly, And it's like what yeah,

624
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: you know that type of thing, right, Everyone has their

625
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: every all thirty two teams have their best special teamer. Okay,

626
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: and he probably is the Steelers' best special teamer, but

627
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: he'd be the best special teamer on twenty eight of

628
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: the team, you know.

629
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: And he's really good at it, right, really good, really smart,

630
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: understands it. That's what I say, too, is accepts it.

631
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the big part of the special toes is right,

632
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: you know who you are. That's why he's their special

633
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: teams captain. And he was a pretty highly drafted guy

634
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: coming He was like a second round draft.

635
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I liked him coming out of school, and I mean

636
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: he was he tested well, and you know, right, he

637
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: was not a.

638
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: It's almost a Darius Award Bay type thing. Safeties don't

639
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: typically get drafted that high.

640
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Right, He was drafted like a starter.

641
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, And you know that hasn't worked out

642
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: for him, but he's become a, as you said, one

643
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: of the best special teams guys in the league. And

644
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: you can play a long time doing that.

645
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: And he's gonna and he has right and he had

646
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: a very nice living and ben and if the Steelers

647
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: couldn't afford him or whatever.

648
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: Somebody else would, somebody else would sign him immediately. That's

649
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: one of the things when they signed Derek Watt, and

650
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: well they just did that because he's TJ's brother. No,

651
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: they did that because he's one of the best person players. Yeah, right, right, right, Yeah,

652
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: you had to look at him like he was Tyler Madakaevich.

653
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had that that stint too, you know, where

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Speaker 3: they were amongst the best. Yeah, and Killerbrew's had it

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Speaker 3: for a while now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's It's not an easy job to do, no,

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Speaker 1: because especially if once you get that target on you

658
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Speaker 1: that everybody knows this is the guy, Hm, you're going

659
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Speaker 1: to get doubled all the time.

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Speaker 3: And I was gonna we're gonna kick away from you, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, we used to the Watt example,

662
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Speaker 3: or they're going to kick away from you, or they're

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Speaker 3: going to double you. As a I mean, you run

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Speaker 3: down on kickoffs because he's hard to block with one.

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Speaker 3: But you mentioned it, like but he also like helps

666
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Speaker 3: sets the protections and punt and all those type of

667
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Speaker 3: things too that aren't easy.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: you're actually that guy is really an assistant coach. He's

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Speaker 1: the one out there making the decisions when the ball

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Speaker 1: is being snapped right right, right, that's sitting there, that's

672
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Speaker 1: that's spending a lot of time with your special teams

673
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Speaker 1: coach and going over scenarios if this happens, what do

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Speaker 1: you want me to do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's our check?

676
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Speaker 1: And then you've got to make that decision, a snap decision,

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Speaker 1: in a millisecond.

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Speaker 3: With less practice time than the other phases. Right yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: so that's suff really important.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about less practice. They practice ractice

681
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Speaker 1: quite a bit special teams, but I mean it's but

682
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Speaker 1: it's all the different phases.

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Speaker 3: That's the that's the four versions of it, right right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's you know, you do two special team

685
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Speaker 1: sessions is per practice, but you can only work on

686
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Speaker 1: so many things.

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Speaker 3: Punt for this session that session will do kickoff return

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, Now we're doing kickoff coverage now we're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just like yeah, and you've got to retain it

691
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Speaker 1: and then be able to communicate it to the other

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Speaker 1: ten guys that are out there with you on the.

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Speaker 3: We're always I always joke about this. I mean, it's

694
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Speaker 3: just they're always changing. It's not the same ten all

695
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Speaker 3: the time. You know, Danny loses starters all the time.

696
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I have eleven starters here on my punt team,

697
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Speaker 3: and you just cut one because we need a guard.

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Speaker 3: You know, like that's a starter for me. Man.

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Speaker 1: Really, if you look at it, a guy like Killer Brew,

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Speaker 1: a guy like Darius Hayward Bay who they had these

701
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: guys want, Uh yeah, they're really the quarterback of the

702
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Speaker 1: special teams unit.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, I mean they are, They're they're in

704
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Speaker 3: communication hub. Communication is really really important, right, and it's

705
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Speaker 3: just easy to overlook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't see many miles kill A Brew jerseys

707
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: in the stadium, no, no Sundays. But he's pretty damn important.

708
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: Right, And he carries a weight in the locker room too.

709
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: He's been here for a while. Everyone knows his contributions

710
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: and you can throw him out on defense if you

711
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Speaker 3: have to.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna be active on game day. Yeah right,

713
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Speaker 1: you know right. Anyways, let's get to another break. It

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Speaker 1: was nice little conversation, yeah like that. Anyways, we're going

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Speaker 1: to take a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers Audio Network of Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back eying Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt. On the message board on YouTube yesterday,

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Speaker 1: somebody brought up, well, we were talking about somebody asked

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Speaker 1: about Rob Woodson when he left the team. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: somebody mentioned that, you know Tom Donaho the GM, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is it. Tom Donahoe wasn't the GM. No,

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Speaker 1: he was director of Football Operations from nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety nine. He had been with the team before.

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Speaker 1: That is a scout in this year, scout and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, they didn't And so I said, I

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Speaker 1: they have never had a GM until Kevin Colbert and

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Speaker 1: that was halfway through his tenure when he when he

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Speaker 1: got the title GM. And I said today, I have

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Speaker 1: a weird story of why he Yeah, I told you,

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Speaker 1: I said on the message board. I'll explain why that

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Speaker 1: happened today. In reality, the Director of Football Operations was

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Speaker 1: it the facto GM. They ran out everything with the football,

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Speaker 1: the scouting, all that stuff they made to help make

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Speaker 1: the draft picks, all that stuff, which is kind.

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Speaker 3: Of a weird term because like, I was director of

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Speaker 3: football opposite Akron, right, but I basically did everything that

743
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: wasn't football. But I did what But I did watch recruits.

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Speaker 3: I did like that part of things too, but it

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Speaker 3: was not I didn't do a lot of football stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so I around. I think it was

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Speaker 1: twenty ten. Kevin Colbert had been the Steelers Director of

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Speaker 1: Football Operations for twenty years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'd been

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Speaker 1: doing this a long time. But when he went out

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Speaker 1: on scouting trips, he would get put in the stands

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Speaker 1: with the other areas guys, with the other area scouts.

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00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: The GMS would all be put in the press box

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Speaker 1: a good spot, right, even if they this guy had

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Speaker 1: been a GM for three months, you know, he's twenty

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Speaker 1: eight years old, his first time he's ever been a GM.

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Speaker 3: The Bama ass id his looks at this title.

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Speaker 1: They just look at the title and say, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna put the scouts the area. Scouts are out there

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Speaker 1: the room. Yeah, the gms. The GMS get the good spots.

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Speaker 1: So Colbert went to Art running the second said, hey,

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Speaker 1: throw me a bone here. I'm getting kind of jerked

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Speaker 1: around here because i don't have the GM title and

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Speaker 1: I've been in.

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Speaker 3: Well until my second year doing this job.

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Speaker 1: And so they Art said, you know what, I agree

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Speaker 1: that that's that makes let's call it. Let's call it

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Speaker 1: what it is. We're going to call you the GM.

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Speaker 3: And but also brings me like to the current GM,

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Speaker 3: like Omar does things, from what I understand, a lot

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Speaker 3: different than Kevin, a lot different than Donahoe and certainly

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Speaker 3: is a different background. You know, he was not an

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Speaker 3: area of scout, grinding tape and measuring hands and you

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Speaker 3: know all that kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Now he's always been involved in that party, right, right, right,

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Speaker 1: But no, that's why they got right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean everyone, every team's front office. And that's even

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Speaker 3: a broad term because front office could mean take a

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Speaker 3: guy too. I mean, like it is constructed very differently,

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Speaker 3: you know, and their backgrounds are very differently, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that director of football operations position, like I

781
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: think at this point now every team does have a GM.

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Speaker 3: I think they call him that.

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Speaker 1: So there's somebody that they call they have that that

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Speaker 1: has that title.

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Speaker 3: But I also think looking back at it, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: as involved that Donaho and Colbert were more directors of

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Speaker 3: football operations. They did the same job where Omar manages generally, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he might be involved

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Speaker 3: in travel a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you could look at this and say, really,

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Speaker 1: Widal is the director of football operation, yeah right, right, right,

792
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: part of it, the part of it right right right,

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Speaker 1: he's the head scout basically, yeah, right right, and then

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Speaker 1: everything else Omar does. Yeah, because he's still and he's

795
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Speaker 1: still involved with the scouting part of.

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Speaker 3: Course, and he's very much in the decision making side

797
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Speaker 3: of that thing too. But it's it's part of a systematics.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's an interesting story and why

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Speaker 3: they're called what they are.

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Speaker 1: The other thing about this whole thing is that, unlike

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Speaker 1: some other general managers around the league. I always see

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00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: this put out there that you know, Tom is gonna

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Speaker 1: have to answer to Omar con for this. It's not

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Speaker 1: how this works.

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Speaker 3: No, right, right, right, I mean, in terms of chaining command,

806
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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a pyramid Art Rooney, the second is

808
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Speaker 1: at the top of it, and the next two guys down,

809
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: the two coppos putting together the mafia list. Here are

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Speaker 1: Tom and Omar and they're equal, and.

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Speaker 3: They're equal, right, yeah, And they each have a saying

812
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: things and they each have different responsibilities, you know, but.

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Speaker 1: They all talk about things and then they come to

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Speaker 1: that agreement on stuff.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of teams that's not true, right,

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Speaker 3: head coaches number Belichicks more in charge of than anybody

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Speaker 3: or whoever.

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Speaker 1: Whoever the GM a lot in a lot of places,

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Speaker 1: the GM has the ability to fire the head coach. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that is not the case here, right, And final say.

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Speaker 3: On the fifty three and who they're going to take

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Speaker 3: in the third round, and they sign this guy or

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Speaker 3: not comes down to the general manager's decision.

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Speaker 1: That's not how it works. That's not how it works.

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Speaker 1: It's a three person triumvirate making the decision.

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Speaker 3: Right, But the final say in the end, if it

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Speaker 3: comes down to it, the.

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Speaker 1: Guy who gets the final say is the guy who's

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Speaker 1: at the top of the pyramid, right. And it's been

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Speaker 1: that way for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: For a very long time. This isn't a new construction either, No, right.

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Speaker 1: It's and it's largely worked, I mean, over the years.

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Speaker 1: But that's one of the reasons why Tom Donaho was

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Speaker 1: fired in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: And folks all thirty two teams if the owner wants

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Speaker 3: final decision, if owner makes final decision. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders ended up in Cleveland because I think there's

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Speaker 3: one reason he ended up in Cleveland, one of them,

839
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Speaker 3: same reason Manzel end up in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You know. But there's also a meddle with some guys

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Speaker 1: that screw it up. There was. There's a piece put

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Speaker 1: out this week that said Mike Tomlin's the only one

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00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: that wanted or that wants Aaron Rodgers. Well that's not

844
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Speaker 1: that can't be true because again that triangle, it's a consensus.

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Speaker 1: It's a consensus. If one of the guys says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want to do this now, Tomlin's voice may hold

847
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Speaker 1: more water in respect to what happens with the roster.

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Speaker 1: Maybe right, he may have a little more sway he's

849
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Speaker 1: been in that position longer. But Art Rooney, the second

850
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Speaker 1: still has to sign off on everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And if he doesn't want to do it, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to do it.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to do it, right, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: all gets talked through.

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Speaker 1: And I remember that I asked Art his meeting with

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Speaker 1: the media in nineteen ninety nine or twenty nineteen, I

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Speaker 1: should say, after the make a Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 3: Trade, right, that's a very unstealer like, a.

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Speaker 1: Very unsteeler like move. And I asked him it is

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Speaker 1: at that press conference, I'm like, hey, that decision. You

861
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Speaker 1: guys hadn't traded a first round draft pick for a

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Speaker 1: player since the sixties.

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Speaker 3: I bet there was some lobbying.

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Speaker 1: I said the time. Was this a very difficult decision?

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we talked about it. I spent an

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Speaker 1: entire night, you know, I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: thinking about it, you know, pacing in the office before

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Speaker 1: we actually made that move. The decision is his. I

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Speaker 1: think it took some convincing. The decision is his because

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Speaker 1: it's something they hadn't done.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, And it became close to a rule because

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Speaker 3: they traded away from like Dick Buckets and Gills are right.

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Speaker 1: And that's why they had traded all. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you look at their drafts in the sixties, right, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have first round draft picks for a long time

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Speaker 1: because they kept trading them for veteran players.

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Speaker 3: Right, you'd rather have Joe Green and Lyn Swan and yeah,

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Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw and right.

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Speaker 1: And it was Dunn that came in, we're not doing

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Speaker 1: that anymore, right, right, it can't work. We can't, we

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Speaker 1: can't function in that fashion. And they didn't do it

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Speaker 1: again until twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: And from what I've been told, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: the players well enough, but the guys that they were

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Speaker 3: trading first round picks for weren't young.

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Speaker 1: Eight year at that time, which is yeah, right, you were.

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Speaker 3: Getting damaged goods or older dudes. And yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 3: not going to not a good business model, No, it isn't.

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Speaker 3: And he lost a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some ebb and flow there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you know, if you've got a completely veteran team

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Speaker 1: that can work, and Buddy Parker had some success, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the kind of success that they had after

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Speaker 1: right right Anyways, I just wanted to explain that and

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Speaker 1: talk about that. But let's get to a break. He

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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