Speaker 1: You're listening to Talking Traders with Me Tamra Judge. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, welcome to our very first episode of Talking
Speaker 1: Traders with Tamra Judge. I am your host, Tamra, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to recap the season of The Traders and
Speaker 1: give you my opinion. Yeah, that's my opinion of everything Traders.
Speaker 1: My co host today is a legend in the reality
Speaker 1: competition world. She's played Big Brother four times, played The
Speaker 1: Amazing Race, and One Snake in the Grass that is
Speaker 1: also a peacock show as well. Right, I want to
Speaker 1: welcome my Trader's co star and friend, Janelle Persina.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Tamra. I'm so excited to
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that we were going to be
Speaker 1: friends when we started on Traders?
Speaker 2: So I always thought I would be friends with you.
Speaker 2: I most blondes don't get along, but I knew I
Speaker 2: would get along with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I knew the second that I had
Speaker 1: to hide your tracks in the back, I'm like in
Speaker 1: her hair, I'm like, we're going to be friends forever.
Speaker 1: There was a moment that, you know, everybody told me
Speaker 1: to be afraid of you because you're so good at
Speaker 1: competition games, and you know, being a housewife, I've never
Speaker 1: played a competition game before, and I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: really did not know what I was doing. Ye didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean it was obvious, but anyways, but I would
Speaker 1: always see your mind kind of working, like you would
Speaker 1: be sitting on a couch and you just be just
Speaker 1: dazing at the other side of the room, and I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: she's thinking. This girl is thinking NonStop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was always playing the game. And I remember
Speaker 2: meeting you as well, and I was like, I had
Speaker 2: a really good idea that you were just a faithful
Speaker 2: so I was like, we can just speak open and
Speaker 2: honestly here. And I always loved talking to you and Larsa.
Speaker 2: I never trusted Charae, but I always did trust you.
Speaker 1: That's funny because there was a I had, you know,
Speaker 1: Charrey's one of my friends. So I had suspicion of
Speaker 1: Charay early on because she was acting different. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was just kind of quiet and kind of cold almost,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, something's up with her. So I
Speaker 1: put a question out on Instagram, just some general questions
Speaker 1: for us, and I'm gonna go ahead and ask you, Okay,
Speaker 1: they wanted to know. Did we know each other before filming? No?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no, I mean I know I knew of you,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to watch your old seasons with you and
Speaker 2: Gina and like a couple of fights, and I remember,
Speaker 2: oh boy, I don't watch the new stuff. So but
Speaker 2: it was nice because I did watch Ultimate Girls Trip
Speaker 2: at Derinda's house, so I got you and Phedra again
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, I love them.
Speaker 2: So it was so nice. I think that's another reason
Speaker 2: why she right didn't really care for me too much,
Speaker 2: is I don't know who the hell she was.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, did you know going into Traders?
Speaker 2: So I had met Rochelle before. Obviously I played with
Speaker 2: Dan in seasonteen, I had met Sandra before. I think
Speaker 2: that's pretty much it for just meeting people in general.
Speaker 2: And then of course I knew who you and Phedra were,
Speaker 2: and I know who Larsa is because I actually have
Speaker 2: a really good friend of mine was on Real Housewives
Speaker 2: of Miami Joanna Krupa. Oh yeah, so, I mean, and
Speaker 2: I think I'm on like a cameo in one of
Speaker 2: the episodes or something. So, so you used.
Speaker 1: To live in Miami, I did. Yeah, see, if you
Speaker 1: were still in Miami, I think that you would be
Speaker 1: on the Real Housewives of Miami.
Speaker 2: Oh I would love it. Yeah, I think I know
Speaker 2: a great time.
Speaker 1: Well, I text Andy because actually Andy text me and said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this show is so good. And then
Speaker 1: we just started chatting about the show and I brought
Speaker 1: up your name, and I'm like, she's so good. If
Speaker 1: there was a Real Housewives of Minnesota, you know who
Speaker 1: had to cast, and he said, she is so good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe we can get on watch what Happens Live's.
Speaker 2: Let's try at anything. I mean, I know Minnesota's kind
Speaker 2: of boring, it's Midwestern, but it hasn't been done before,
Speaker 2: and if anyone can do it, maybe I can.
Speaker 1: Are you from Minases Yeah.
Speaker 2: Born and raised. Yeah, I lived in Miami, New York
Speaker 2: and Los Angeles and then I actually years ago I
Speaker 2: reconnected with like a college boyfriend and I ended up
Speaker 2: coming back to Minnesota and.
Speaker 1: You married him.
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, wow, and.
Speaker 1: You got married? What in twenty ten? Did I read?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, three kids later, Yes, work in real estate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. What was your favorite part of filming?
Speaker 2: So, my favorite part of filming was always the breakfast.
Speaker 2: To me, it was very exciting. It was a very beautiful,
Speaker 2: like type of set. I just loved that. It was
Speaker 2: nice and bright. I love breakfast in general, so I
Speaker 2: just thought, Wow, I really enjoyed filming the breakfast stuff.
Speaker 2: It was fun for me.
Speaker 1: That was fun. I think it was. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not exerting too much energy. We're just sitting in one room,
Speaker 1: so it's good.
Speaker 2: It is very suspenseful too, I mean you are, yeah,
Speaker 2: holding your breath.
Speaker 1: Knock on the door. Yeah, Oh my god, what do
Speaker 1: more paranoid? Big Brother? Are traders?
Speaker 2: I think traders did? I mean I was so paranoid,
Speaker 2: like I would just wake up angry from the day
Speaker 2: before and just start to spiral a little bit. It
Speaker 2: really did cause a lot of paranoia because it's so
Speaker 2: and I feel like in Big Brother, I could calm
Speaker 2: myself down and make like more I don't know, more
Speaker 2: calm decisions, more direct, more strategic, and take the time
Speaker 2: to like really think about things.
Speaker 1: Where don't you feel like traders like their goal was
Speaker 1: to make us feel paranoid?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean from the second that I got off the
Speaker 1: plane at the time I got into my room, they
Speaker 1: went through my luggage. They took my phone from me.
Speaker 1: I mean every like they're patting down my clothes, opening
Speaker 1: up my shampoo, smelling it to make sure I don't
Speaker 1: have I don't know what drugs or something in there,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna drink my shampoo bottle. I mean, I
Speaker 1: started feeling paranoid from the get go. Yeah, and let's
Speaker 1: just not I mean unless you're in your you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know the TV's on and the time
Speaker 1: flashes or the day flashes. You don't know what time
Speaker 1: it is, you don't know what date it is, and
Speaker 1: I'll never forget, like being on a mission in the
Speaker 1: Scarecrow mission and the producer was, you know, near me,
Speaker 1: and I go, what day is this? She goes, she
Speaker 1: looked at me, and she goes, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, And I'm like, okay, so we're not asking
Speaker 1: that question again. So there's a question. Would I do
Speaker 1: celebrity big Brother?
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't. No. I think you'd be good to
Speaker 2: know that you've done traders, so you could do so well.
Speaker 1: To me, how long? How long are you in the house?
Speaker 2: Well, if celebrity is a lot shorter, it's just a month.
Speaker 1: Oh only a month? Yeah, five days.
Speaker 2: No, you do really well at it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I am such a homebody. Yeah that
Speaker 1: I love being a home that. I mean, go on,
Speaker 1: let's go out to dinner. No, that's all right, I'll
Speaker 1: just cook it home like I love to be at home.
Speaker 1: So leaving my house for thirty days stressed me out
Speaker 1: so bad for traders, I really think that's why I
Speaker 1: got so sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were sick.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh my god. Which people don't realize.
Speaker 1: Like the first episode, it takes it takes days to
Speaker 1: film the first episode, So I got sick probably after
Speaker 1: day two or three. I was literally yeah, I was
Speaker 1: literally out, and I was wondering how it was going
Speaker 1: to be edited. But I was out for four days.
Speaker 1: So we had some press days, we had a day
Speaker 1: off we had so I was, oh, I honestly thought
Speaker 1: it was going to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about housewives. If there was a Housewives
Speaker 1: of Minnesota, yeah you do it.
Speaker 2: Of course I would love to. But again, I don't
Speaker 2: know where they're going to get this drama from. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's literally like random people playing hockey and they're just
Speaker 2: cold and miserable with their lives.
Speaker 1: That can piss off people, that can make them very angry.
Speaker 2: Don't you think I think so. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they could find some way to make it like very entertaining,
Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's it's really long winters there
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. It's just quite miserable. The summers are beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well, Salt Lake City. They managed to make it work,
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, if there's is there any other reality
Speaker 1: show that you'd want to be on?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think I should move up. I think I
Speaker 2: should move to Orange County, tam Or what do you think? Well?
Speaker 1: I would love that we have we have some filming
Speaker 1: to do next week and I have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: bring a friend. Can you just fly in and go
Speaker 1: with me?
Speaker 2: We'd love to absolutely. Yeah, it's helpswives. I think Dealer
Speaker 2: No Deal Island looks fun. I think anything with strategy,
Speaker 2: really anything where my mind has to work and I
Speaker 2: really have to think about things and I can take
Speaker 2: like a little bit of a risk. I am a
Speaker 2: little bit of an a dread and junkie, so I
Speaker 2: do like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's next for you? Do you have something you
Speaker 1: have your eyeset on.
Speaker 2: You know, I really don't focus too much on TV stuff.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you. I am a businesswoman. I
Speaker 2: sell a lot of houses. I'm very involved with my family,
Speaker 2: so I don't really know what's next for me. If
Speaker 2: something comes up, I always consider it, but I well,
Speaker 2: no requests for like random shows.
Speaker 1: I bet you do. But now that you've been on
Speaker 1: Traders and you're back in the public eye, you know
Speaker 1: something else is going to come your way pretty soon.
Speaker 1: You know that, right would you do Big Brother again?
Speaker 2: I would not do Big Brother again? No way, It's
Speaker 2: just too long of a time period. They usually gun
Speaker 2: for me right away, Tamra. If you've seen the show,
Speaker 2: it's like really annoying because I've played more than anyone
Speaker 2: in our country, so they just got me right away.
Speaker 2: They're just like, oh nope, we got to go for Janelle.
Speaker 2: She's dangerous and so I'm usually out right away.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see. I was afraid of that. As for Traders,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that I was walking into some
Speaker 1: of the biggest gamers out there that I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: a freaking nobody. I'm a nobody on this playing field
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 2: I feel like you had really good reads though, camera
Speaker 2: and you know, you could all I felt like you
Speaker 2: could always sense who the faithfuls were, and you were
Speaker 2: really you were nervous about poverty and Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh I knew Dan. You know how LARSA said she
Speaker 1: heard the top. Yeah, I heard Dan. I heard his
Speaker 1: It was his jacket, you know, yeah, Alan in the
Speaker 1: future don't wear such a starch jacket. So I heard yeah,
Speaker 1: because he walked around quite a few times. But I
Speaker 1: heard the jacket go up and I knew it was Dan.
Speaker 2: Well, Lars didn't even hear anything.
Speaker 1: Poverty was recruited, I know, which is weird, but I
Speaker 1: definitely heard that so anytime. But you know, he could
Speaker 1: have just moved his arm or whatever. But I heard that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh god, I know Dan.
Speaker 2: You hear like every little thing though, because you're so stressed.
Speaker 2: That's what people don't realize. Like when John's breathing thing happened,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was like, I literally have to
Speaker 2: say something because the man was struggling to breathe right,
Speaker 2: And I you know, I'm trying to play like a
Speaker 2: quiet game. I'm like, I don't want to be that person.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything, but I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just have to.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't feel like you held back by any mean,
Speaker 1: but you know early on in the game, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into it in a minute, but you're just looking
Speaker 1: for any suspicion. You're looking for maybe somebody that's caught
Speaker 1: in a lie, maybe somebody that's looking nervous. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody's breathing heavy, because at the beginning, you don't know anybody,
Speaker 1: you don't know. I know. There's a couple headlines that
Speaker 1: have come out of from Traders being out just for
Speaker 1: what are we on episode four? Now? So The Trader
Speaker 1: Season two becomes Peacock's most watch reality premiere. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Up seventy five percent from season one.
Speaker 2: Incredible.
Speaker 1: So that was a Variety article. It is in its
Speaker 1: first five days on the platform. The Trader Season two
Speaker 1: has become the most watched reality series debut on Peacock.
Speaker 1: The streaming reaches up more than seventy five percent in
Speaker 1: season one, I mean and season one run emmy, So
Speaker 1: I know, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: I think with the cast, of course, people are going
Speaker 2: to tune in. We all have so many fans and
Speaker 2: they're so different so different, so well, of course it's
Speaker 2: going to be crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean it beat out The Real Housewife's Ultimate Girls Trip.
Speaker 1: I know, Love Island, USA, Love Island Games, and Queen's Court,
Speaker 1: so it's huge. Another huge article that came out was
Speaker 1: Kate Chastain makes a surprise return to Traders for season two.
Speaker 1: I think you missed me is what she says when
Speaker 1: she walks in. I was actually shocked to see Kate
Speaker 1: come to play. Kate is one of the only people
Speaker 1: that knew that I was cast on Traders, and so
Speaker 1: I reached out to hers, like any pointers, any tips
Speaker 1: and anything. She goes, girl, it's like going to prison,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what she goes. There's no talk in
Speaker 1: the outside world. You're you know, you're in it. It's
Speaker 1: like your mind's in it, your body's in it. You
Speaker 1: don't have anywhere else to look or go. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks for making me feel better. But she's not the
Speaker 1: only familiar face that's back, big brother, doctor Will Kirby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I know, Doctor Kirby. You did did you date him?
Speaker 2: I mean we had like a little showmance thing going on.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: It's like just for TV purposes, Like I had a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: he had a girlfriend, but we were living together for three.
Speaker 1: Months, right, so you there was some sparks there.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was more friendship and flirting if anything.
Speaker 2: I think we both liked flirting with each other, and
Speaker 2: we were both trying to advance ourselves in the game.
Speaker 2: So he used me as much as I used him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I got it. Let's go on to
Speaker 1: the first episode. Okay, Now, so the first episode starts
Speaker 1: out players are meeting each other at the castle. CT
Speaker 1: and Trischelle were on the challenge together and did not
Speaker 1: get along. Michelle says trust is earned. Poverty and Sandra
Speaker 1: were on the same season of Survivor and Poverty loss.
Speaker 1: Sandra won. Now, I was in the car with Poverty.
Speaker 1: She was one of the first people that I met,
Speaker 1: along with Dan. He was also in my car, and
Speaker 1: we pulled up to the castle and Poverty looked over
Speaker 1: and it's Sandra in the car next door. And she
Speaker 1: just looked at her and gave her like the eye signal,
Speaker 1: like I see you, and she like went, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's Sandra. So who were you most excited to get
Speaker 1: out of the jeep and meet or see.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm obviously a huge Housewives fan, so I
Speaker 2: loved meeting you and Phedra. I'm like a huge Vadra fan.
Speaker 2: I swear that's why they put me in her car.
Speaker 2: They must have known her something, because I think I
Speaker 2: tweeted about it. She and I got to know each
Speaker 2: other so good those first three days.
Speaker 1: That must be why you trusted her so much.
Speaker 2: I trusted that woman with my life. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: was excited to meet the Housewives. I was. I didn't
Speaker 2: know who Deontay Wilder was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who Dante was either, no clue.
Speaker 2: I just know one in the cast except for Deontay,
Speaker 2: which is just sad. But I was really excited to
Speaker 2: meet Poverty. I had never met her before. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: have played with Dan. I was a little bit nervous
Speaker 2: at first, like, how is this going to work out?
Speaker 2: Because just like the people that you had mentioned, Dan
Speaker 2: and I have prior history as well. He was responsible
Speaker 2: for me leaving the Big Brother House.
Speaker 1: Did you keep in touch with Dan throughout these years?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did keep in touch with him. It really
Speaker 2: wasn't his fault completely, but it was like someone that
Speaker 2: he was working with. Oh, it's a long story. I
Speaker 2: won't get into that, but yes, Dan and I always
Speaker 2: kept in touch, and even before I did my last
Speaker 2: season of Big Brother, I was like, are you going
Speaker 2: to show for this All Stars? And He's like, nah,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. And this one I saw him.
Speaker 2: IM like, god, I haven't seen him in like thirteen
Speaker 2: fourteen years.
Speaker 1: They looked different, Yeah he did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had history too, So yeah, to see
Speaker 2: how all those dynamics and all those relationships can kind
Speaker 2: of play out on TV.
Speaker 1: I don't watch gaming shows like I just I don't
Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV in general. So I really
Speaker 1: didn't know anybody if you weren't on Bravo or I
Speaker 1: knew of just because I've seen you know, he's been
Speaker 1: around for so long with Dancing with the Stars. Other
Speaker 1: than that, I really didn't know anybody. I've never even
Speaker 1: like to say this, but I didn't even know about
Speaker 1: the show The Challenge, never even heard it, never even
Speaker 1: heard it. But I don't have MTVS. That might be
Speaker 1: the reason I don't.
Speaker 2: Really watch the show either.
Speaker 1: But do you know the backstory about Trischelle and CT, like,
Speaker 1: because because she had said that they had he did
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Well she didn't. I don't think she really. She was
Speaker 2: nervous about both Bananas and CT because she just has
Speaker 2: trust issues with them in general. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: I don't know what CT did to her specifically, but
Speaker 2: it involved like a friend of hers or something and
Speaker 2: trishall the game. I don't really know the details, but
Speaker 2: she had some trust issues with him. Absolutely, were you afraid?
Speaker 1: Not afraid, I don't know, but cautious of her knowing
Speaker 1: her history on competition shows, Oh.
Speaker 2: Not at all. I knew that I wanted to align
Speaker 2: with her right away, so I was like, Okay, she's
Speaker 2: a woman just like me and we come from competition shows.
Speaker 2: I was like, me and Trischelle could easily work together,
Speaker 2: and we did. We started working together like right away.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because I didn't know who she was,
Speaker 1: but I got to know her pretty quickly. So sweet,
Speaker 1: so kind, so little petite, little tiny girl, and you
Speaker 1: think what she's like dangerous and competition shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well she's a poker player too, so she's very strategic.
Speaker 1: I learned that.
Speaker 2: So she she's a big thinker and she plays it off.
Speaker 2: You know, she does her whole like ditsy thing or
Speaker 2: whatever like plays it off.
Speaker 1: Then the act isn't an act or totally is.
Speaker 2: It's just to get people's guards down with her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's a very good game player.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So then the host Alan chooses the traders.
Speaker 1: Dan is the first trader, then Phedra is the second trader.
Speaker 1: And in my mind, because I watched season one, I
Speaker 1: thought there was three traders. Yeah, right, and then right
Speaker 1: and then and then Alan says, the traders are going
Speaker 1: to be pulling in another They're going to recruit somebody new.
Speaker 1: So in my mind I thought the entire time there
Speaker 1: was four traders.
Speaker 2: Me too, see I was always hunting for four.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you want to be a trader?
Speaker 2: Oh? I would have loved to be a trader? Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? I thought for sure they were going
Speaker 2: to pick me. I was devastated when I wasn't picked.
Speaker 2: I was like, seriously, said, I'm like, how dare they?
Speaker 2: I know? Well?
Speaker 1: Uh? I did press with Max and he said, like,
Speaker 1: after I knew I wasn't a trader, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: just a sitting duck now.
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of how it is. You are
Speaker 2: a sitting duck.
Speaker 1: Who did you think that Alan chose at the first
Speaker 1: round table initially, so my eye.
Speaker 2: Was always on Dan always because I'm like, okay, like
Speaker 2: they're going to pick someone that's like a big draw
Speaker 2: with strategy and stuff, and yeah, Dan's for sure getting
Speaker 2: picked or Sandra, Like That's what I was kind of
Speaker 2: initially thinking.
Speaker 1: I kept thank you, Sandra, Sandra, Sandra.
Speaker 2: It's and Poverty like those three. To me, I was like,
Speaker 2: one of for sure, one of them is going to
Speaker 2: be a trader, like for sure. So that that was
Speaker 2: my initial thing, and then I was kind of just
Speaker 2: watching everyone. I felt like I knew right away that
Speaker 2: Dan was a trader. I didn't. I mean I didn't
Speaker 2: know right away. I I gunned for the first mission
Speaker 2: thing like crazy, you know that because of the whole
Speaker 2: John thing. I thought I need this shield more than anything.
Speaker 2: I was vocal Junk could be.
Speaker 1: A trader, I know.
Speaker 2: So I went for the shield. But when I got
Speaker 2: back to the castle with everyone, I talked to Dan
Speaker 2: and I was like, he's a freaking trader. So I
Speaker 2: knew him day one, and I knew Poverty the next
Speaker 2: day because she was just not she was not she
Speaker 2: was sneaky, she was not sharing anything.
Speaker 1: So sneaky, Yeah, so sneaky. Okay, so the first mission,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I am in bed. I can barely get
Speaker 1: out of bed. I felt horrible, But now watching it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank god. If there's any mission that I
Speaker 1: didn't have to participate in, this is the one that
Speaker 1: I did not want to do. I hate water, I
Speaker 1: hate swimming, I hate being cold. How bad was it?
Speaker 2: It really wasn't cold or anything. They gave us a
Speaker 2: wet suit, which was really nice to them. I thought
Speaker 2: they would just throw us in the water, so really
Speaker 2: impressed about that. It really wasn't that hard. And I know,
Speaker 2: like for TV purposes, like, oh my god, you guys
Speaker 2: are tied up and the shields are The shield was
Speaker 2: like fifty feet away. You could just see it.
Speaker 1: Oh, you could see him.
Speaker 2: I got the shield in a minute and a half
Speaker 2: and I untied three people.
Speaker 1: But it also gave you the label of being selfish. Selfish?
Speaker 1: Is that what it? Yeah? Selfish?
Speaker 2: But like I mean, other people that untied themselves also
Speaker 2: went for the shield, but I had already gotten it.
Speaker 1: Wait, remind me who was the last one still tied?
Speaker 1: Was a burgie Burgie? Yeah, poor Burgie burglicious. He was
Speaker 1: so cute, so sweet, so kind.
Speaker 2: A little baby bird.
Speaker 1: I know, so you didn't have any like, don't even care.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the shield. I don't give a shit when
Speaker 1: anybody thinks no regrets.
Speaker 2: Peter and I had to talk before that because Peter
Speaker 2: and I were sitting like on both sides of John
Speaker 2: and like we both kind of are like, we're so
Speaker 2: screwed because we heard John breathe. We thought John was
Speaker 2: a trader. So I was like, Peter, we need shields,
Speaker 2: and He's like absolutely, So we were both freaked out.
Speaker 2: That's how I knew right away that.
Speaker 1: Peter was a faithful Were you okay? So I was
Speaker 1: a little bit freaked out about Peter because Peter is
Speaker 1: he was good at the game. He is good at
Speaker 1: the game, so I'm like, he must be he's going
Speaker 1: to be a trader. He's just too damn good. I
Speaker 1: right away confused, you know, So it's to me it
Speaker 1: was in confusing.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have to make some faithfuls really good
Speaker 2: and some really bad. You know, Kevin, So we're going.
Speaker 1: To talk about Kevin. We're going to talk about Kevin.
Speaker 1: But so the episode ends where Phader and Dan meet
Speaker 1: and Fadri like they meet for the first time and
Speaker 1: then Fader's like yes baby, and then you know, we
Speaker 1: go on to episode two. So episode two, Fadri and
Speaker 1: Dan have recruited Parvety as their third trader. Poverty accepts,
Speaker 1: but she won't know their identities until tomorrow night. Who
Speaker 1: would you have recruited to be a trader?
Speaker 2: I would have recruited Dan. Here's why. That man is
Speaker 2: always going to be under a spotlight and very suspicious.
Speaker 2: And I felt like, if I was a trader, I'd
Speaker 2: recruit Dan because Dan has the I would have played
Speaker 2: a totally different game by the way, tamer, I would
Speaker 2: not have been going for shoot, that's for damn sure,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be so you know, trying to find
Speaker 2: traders and so annoying. But I would have recruited Dan
Speaker 2: because if he were to leave the game and say
Speaker 2: I am a trader, I would have skated through. People
Speaker 2: would never think like why would there be two Big
Speaker 2: Brother players? So it would have taken the spotlight off
Speaker 2: of me absolutely.
Speaker 1: Going into it and knowing that you did not get
Speaker 1: chosen as a trader, by the way, that's kind of like,
Speaker 1: did you ever feel like, really, why didn't you choose me?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I'm like Dan, seriously. Not only that, but
Speaker 2: like Harvedy didn't have any friends in the house.
Speaker 1: You know, no Faeder made that well known. Nobody likes you,
Speaker 1: I mean poverty.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like Trishelle and I were
Speaker 2: Harvedy's only friends if everyone was so after her and
Speaker 2: they were just like, she's a trader. So I feel
Speaker 2: like it really wasn't that great of a choice because
Speaker 2: he could have recruited someone. And I'm just saying like, oh,
Speaker 2: you should have recruited me. But anyone that was more
Speaker 2: social in the game, like Trishelle would have been a
Speaker 2: great recruit people. She had friends, you know, and she
Speaker 2: had intel from other faithfuls. That's the thing when you recruit,
Speaker 2: you want to get that information from the faithfuls and
Speaker 2: who they think is a trader?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And now did you did you think in your mind,
Speaker 1: because you you come from a game, you know, gaming,
Speaker 1: did you think there's a housewife, there's a gamer, and
Speaker 1: there is who knows? Because we have we had a
Speaker 1: few people that weren't on reality shows, like Deontae.
Speaker 2: Right, I thought for sure someone from Bravo I mean,
Speaker 2: but obviously, as the game goes on and you guys
Speaker 2: will see, but initially I was like, it's got to
Speaker 2: be someone from Bravo. It's got to be someone from
Speaker 2: like The Challenge or Big Brother or Survivor, And you know,
Speaker 2: I just really looked at those people such a question
Speaker 2: mark in that game for me.
Speaker 1: Did you know who Eckensue was?
Speaker 2: I had no clue who she was.
Speaker 1: Nope, somebody just sent me a DM you know, people crazy,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my cousin dated her, but her name
Speaker 1: was Susie. Oh interesting, and I'm like, okay, whatever, Okay.
Speaker 1: So we're so the next morning, everyone meets for breakfast.
Speaker 1: This is our first murder, and it is Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 1: Do you think murdering Bananas first was a smart move
Speaker 1: on the game?
Speaker 2: I can see, well, okay, so maybe for my game
Speaker 2: personally and some others, it would be a good move
Speaker 2: because he's just so good and I.
Speaker 1: Felt like, but he was loud.
Speaker 2: He was loud. The thing is is, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: Dan saw how charismatic he was and how popular he was.
Speaker 2: And we were all sitting in that billiard's room and
Speaker 2: Johnny was playing the guitar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was singing people and he's very likable.
Speaker 2: He's very likable. He had everyone watching him like he
Speaker 2: was on a stage.
Speaker 1: And well, he demands a lot of attention.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I like that to a trader is dangerous
Speaker 2: in the game because you have the ability to get
Speaker 2: everyone and say I know who a trader is and
Speaker 2: we're coming for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So being loud and obnoxious, he was often obnoxious.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good strategy.
Speaker 2: I don't think being loud and obnoxious isn't a strategy
Speaker 2: at all. But I think that that's just Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 2: He commands a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it obviously did not work for him.
Speaker 2: I just I was quiet, like Dan, that's not going
Speaker 2: to work with him. You know, would I have murdered
Speaker 2: Johnny Bananas?
Speaker 1: No, you know, I'm sure the producers were like, no,
Speaker 1: not him. He's so entertaining, I know, you know, for
Speaker 1: from you know, producer's mind, like he's so entertaining. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. But this I would have to say, this
Speaker 1: is the first show that I've been on that you
Speaker 1: do not I mean, you hardly see a producer. And
Speaker 1: they told us that going in we Are hands off off.
Speaker 2: I had no idea it was like that, especially those
Speaker 2: round tables. Gosh, that was stressful.
Speaker 1: Well what was that song they played to us? It
Speaker 1: always from the Hunger Games, right, Yeah, Hanging Tree or whatever,
Speaker 1: Hanging tree. So we would literally sit at the round
Speaker 1: table and look at you because you were right, We
Speaker 1: were right across from each other. And it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful room. It's dead silent. Cameras drop from
Speaker 1: the ceiling, and then all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 1: a camera that goes rotates around the room. It gets
Speaker 1: close to our face and nobody's talking, and they play
Speaker 1: that song. I mean obviously they can't air it, but
Speaker 1: they play it and it just puts your mind in
Speaker 1: such like the weirdest place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to stress you out, and it's super creepy.
Speaker 1: It's so creepy. But oddly enough, like when I got home,
Speaker 1: I would I played that song. I got so used
Speaker 1: to hearing it I would play it. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is wrong with me? So in the next mission, the
Speaker 1: players have split up in three groups. Each group will
Speaker 1: follow a separate path and answer questions about their fellow players.
Speaker 1: The scarecrows are the possible answers. If you're correct, it
Speaker 1: will open the next question. The first question, whose opinion
Speaker 1: do you value the most? Larsa or Marcus, I mean
Speaker 1: all teams shows correctly. They definitely said Marcus. I mean
Speaker 1: Marcus is. This is the first time I've ever met him.
Speaker 1: I know Larsa, but he is such a voice of reason,
Speaker 1: He's so calm, he's such an old soul. He's just
Speaker 1: such a cool dude. So that that was an easy.
Speaker 2: Wait, guy, I really liked him.
Speaker 1: Now the second question, I take great offense too. Who
Speaker 1: is the most popular player? It wasn't us, so how
Speaker 1: so how that happened was when we we got to
Speaker 1: our rooms that night, there was a questionnaire on our
Speaker 1: bed and it had all these questions. We had to vote,
Speaker 1: and the votes were basically the answers to our next mission.
Speaker 1: So it was between Deontay and Peppermint, which to me,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a weird. Weird. It was weird
Speaker 1: to me. I thought, like Phaedro for sure would have
Speaker 1: been on there because Fadri's such a big personality and everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't expect my name on there. Because
Speaker 1: people think, oh my god, she's a raging bitch. But
Speaker 1: I definitely thought Fadri's name was going to be on
Speaker 1: there for sure.
Speaker 2: I actually did vote for deonce.
Speaker 1: Did you vote for Deontay? I had just met him.
Speaker 2: Oh he's just such a nice He's the guy, and
Speaker 2: he's so smiley and kind, and it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I definitely picked Deontay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I did too. Now the third question,
Speaker 1: who needs to speak up more? Dan ur cherat Oh?
Speaker 2: Dan? Absolutely? I voted for Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pretty quiet, quiet through the entire time. Now,
Speaker 1: Dan is the only one to find a shield and
Speaker 1: the team earned sixteen thousand dollars. Now, looking back, does
Speaker 1: Peppermint being more popular make sense? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: there was somebody else there that was more popular Pepper?
Speaker 2: I feel like Larsa was actually popular.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was.
Speaker 2: Larsa was very popular. She's an alpha, but she is
Speaker 2: still very popular and everyone always tried to hang out
Speaker 2: with her and be around her. So I would say, I.
Speaker 1: Knowing Larsa, I saw her in a totally different light
Speaker 1: on the show, really totally different. I'm like when she
Speaker 1: was when I first saw her I'm like, oh, because
Speaker 1: she's kind of she's quiet at times and she's not
Speaker 1: very like she's not in your face, but oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh she was. She was so vocal. It was so vocal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, needing the charge, like let's go.
Speaker 1: Okay. So John is running full force and running.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. When John's running and running in his mark,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's like a penguin almost like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But he falls on his face, like
Speaker 1: literally slides down, pops back. But you know what, he
Speaker 1: was pretty fast runner.
Speaker 2: He was incredibly fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but the entire scene was hilarious and John
Speaker 1: like just full sprint while I ask him, do you
Speaker 1: have an inhaler?
Speaker 2: But you were like coughing to you. I wish I had?
Speaker 1: Do you have an inhaler? So funny, which I actually,
Speaker 1: you know, being as sick as I was, I had
Speaker 1: a medic and a doctor that was checking on me,
Speaker 1: and they gave me antibiotics and an inhaler and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So I stupidly left it because we didn't
Speaker 1: really carry purses or anything. So I left it in
Speaker 1: my room and I'm I'm like dying and I'm Like
Speaker 1: then I thought, strategically, this is a good move, this
Speaker 1: is my housewife move. I'm gonna ask John if he
Speaker 1: has an inhaler because he had said he had asthma. Now,
Speaker 1: if you have asthma in your breathing hard at the
Speaker 1: round table after you took your blindfold off, you have
Speaker 1: it bad where you have an inhaler on you, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's literally in your back pocket because you're
Speaker 2: gonna go on a run.
Speaker 1: I mean, m hmm. But that that whole scene of
Speaker 1: us at the round table talking about it went viral.
Speaker 2: It's more funny than anything. But it's just like, that's
Speaker 2: what makes the show so good is like we have
Speaker 2: nothing to go on, and like John's breathing was like
Speaker 2: the biggest thing at the castle that we could even
Speaker 2: talk about or think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, guys, you have to understand, we don't
Speaker 1: know we don't know who the traders are, so we're
Speaker 1: looking for any clue. Are you lying? Are you breathing hard?
Speaker 1: Are you blinking too hard? Are you overacting? Like? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? That is? I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: but anyways, So the episode ends, Faeder Dan Parverty meet
Speaker 1: for their traders meeting, Dan wants to see if Poverty
Speaker 1: reacts and know, you know, how they're doing as traders.
Speaker 1: Poverty is absolutely shocked. My question is why do they
Speaker 1: call Parverty the Black Widow?
Speaker 2: So she is part of the Black Widow Brigade and
Speaker 2: one of her main alliance members was Surree who won
Speaker 2: Trader season one, and it was actually Sirree, who is
Speaker 2: a strategic, you know, mastermind in this she was the
Speaker 2: head of the Black Widow Brigade, but Poverty was like
Speaker 2: her number one soldier that would literally take these young
Speaker 2: men and get them to do anything to give up
Speaker 2: their games so they could get them out of the
Speaker 2: way and win the game. And Poverty yea, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Moving on to episode three, it starts out with Poverty
Speaker 1: has joined Phaeder and Dan as traders. They debate on
Speaker 1: who to murder Partoni suggest Deontae, Dan suggests Marcus, and
Speaker 1: Phaedri suggest Chanelle. Now this is the girl that you
Speaker 1: have rode hard for Janelle. Phaedra wanted you gone. How
Speaker 1: does that feel?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not surprised. I think I think she
Speaker 2: was probably maybe a little fearful if me and I
Speaker 2: don't know why, I mean, I would have protected this.
Speaker 1: Woman at all cause but now, looking back, do you
Speaker 1: feel like Phaedra was playing you?
Speaker 2: I I don't know, I really don't know. It is
Speaker 2: a whole heart that everything that she said to me
Speaker 2: was true when she would come up to me in
Speaker 2: the bathroom tell me that she's got my back, and like,
Speaker 2: I want to believe that's.
Speaker 1: True, but it's Isn't it so hard to banish somebody
Speaker 1: even though it's a game that's praying over you all
Speaker 1: the time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So everybody enters the breakfast in the group, Marcus has
Speaker 1: been murdered. Marcus says in his interview he was too
Speaker 1: much of a threat and people were jealous he had
Speaker 1: larsa Now, I was concerned when I saw Larcus, Marcus
Speaker 1: and Lars alone together because I felt like as a strategy,
Speaker 1: that's people would want to break him up. Do you
Speaker 1: think that Marcus was the right move to murder?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They absolutely had to be broken up. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's you have to. They're together, they're going to
Speaker 2: vote together, and you know, the Bravo people, there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of the Bravo people. You know, it's all over
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean you guys had like a whole group
Speaker 2: and Ecinste was trying to get in there too, So
Speaker 2: I mean, I can see why the traders would, especially
Speaker 2: Dan and Poverty, would be like yeah, probably.
Speaker 1: Well. Then we arrived at the graveyard, which probably is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite missions.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The mission was to find goal. We were they will
Speaker 1: bring the gold to the willbar and added to the
Speaker 1: prize fund. There were three shields to be found. I
Speaker 1: found one. Yeah, son't you The players will be eliminated
Speaker 1: if they walk into the searchlight. I think it was cool.
Speaker 1: We did it in the middle of the night, which
Speaker 1: you know was crazy. John is the first one out
Speaker 1: and we were dying laughing because they didn't I don't
Speaker 1: think they really showed it, but he literally was. It
Speaker 1: was hilarious. He was caught by the light and then
Speaker 1: he kept going and he did.
Speaker 2: These little like a cat burglar.
Speaker 1: Yes, he kept moving and we're like you're dead, and
Speaker 1: he's like huh, We're like you're dead. And then Bergie
Speaker 1: gets eliminated. But Bergie figures out the patterns of the
Speaker 1: lights and he's helping us as we're out there. I
Speaker 1: find a shield. Peter actually helped me with the shield,
Speaker 1: and that's where I really started trusting Peter. And then
Speaker 1: Peter got a shield, and then you got a shield too.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about your shield, because yeah, because Ekin
Speaker 1: Sue said she had the shield. But we obviously see
Speaker 1: now from the footage that it was obvious that you
Speaker 1: were there before Ekan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter and I. Peter and I were also working it,
Speaker 2: just like you. He's such a nice guy, and he
Speaker 2: was like, Janell, do you want a shield? I was
Speaker 2: like yeah, he said to me, yeah, and so he said, okay,
Speaker 2: let's go, and so we ran over there and he
Speaker 2: starts knocking it the thing on the whatever, the little
Speaker 2: shield symbol and eck and Sue comes behind me and
Speaker 2: she's like, got her hand on my back. I'm like, girl,
Speaker 2: I was here way before you.
Speaker 1: Now. She told me that you elbowed her really hard,
Speaker 1: bitter and hitter and bitter and all these things.
Speaker 2: Bro, I didn't touch you. My hand was on it.
Speaker 2: She tried to come in and you can hear her
Speaker 2: kind of brunting in it, like, ah, there's no way
Speaker 2: she was getting that first.
Speaker 1: But it's so crazy because the overacting on her part
Speaker 1: because I didn't see it really pay attention to it
Speaker 1: and see really what happened. But she was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like you know, I was there, I had
Speaker 1: it and she hit me, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this Janelle is horrible.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, this bitch is crazy. Janelle is to
Speaker 2: go meanwhile, like I was there way before her and
Speaker 2: the entire time, like I walked up on her. I
Speaker 2: told you this, Tamera. I walked up on her telling
Speaker 2: the story to Larsa and I saw her go like this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is she seriously talking about me?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 1: She was, and I love her. I think she's so sweet.
Speaker 1: She's so cute. But I'm like, girl, that did not happen.
Speaker 2: It screwed up my game for sure, be cause I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I'm just going for a shield to
Speaker 2: save my life. I was almost murdered the night before
Speaker 2: I came into breakfast freaking last so of course I'm
Speaker 2: going to watch a shield. But you freaking fader try
Speaker 2: to murder me the night before, your.
Speaker 1: Best friend, the one you trusted your life.
Speaker 2: Now, I felt like I really needed it, and she
Speaker 2: was just like really, now out light on me again.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I do not want to be like, That's
Speaker 2: why I was like when people would ask her, I
Speaker 2: was like, it really wasn't that big of a deal
Speaker 2: because it wasn't that big of a deal to me.
Speaker 1: But she made it a big deal. Do you think
Speaker 1: she made a big deal that was part of her gaming?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because she would have said
Speaker 2: that on the show. I think you know how when
Speaker 2: you compete and you you lose or something, and your
Speaker 2: mind creates its own reality, yeah or whatever, and you're
Speaker 2: just pissed off, and she just felt like saying that
Speaker 2: I took it from her.
Speaker 1: So next we're at the round table. Dan says he's
Speaker 1: a faithful and it takes some time to open up.
Speaker 1: Larsa says that Dan's calmness is uneasy to her. Max
Speaker 1: says that the conversation between eck and Sue and Janelle
Speaker 1: was strange. Ecken Seue says Max has taken the attention
Speaker 1: off of him. Deanta says Max switched up on him
Speaker 1: and started acting suspicious. Max is banished. But is it faithful?
Speaker 1: You said Deontay changed her mind? Who were you initially
Speaker 1: going to banish?
Speaker 2: Oh God, I was gonna write Ecnsue's name down. I
Speaker 2: thought it was so weird that she was like targeting
Speaker 2: me and making up lies. I was like, you are
Speaker 2: freaking nuts. I thought she could be a trader, because
Speaker 2: why would would you do all that? Why would you
Speaker 2: you know, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Deontay changed my mind as well. I was he was
Speaker 1: so convincing. I was initially going to vote for I
Speaker 1: think Kevin because Kevin just bugged me. Kevin just ate
Speaker 1: with his mouth open. I didn't even care if he
Speaker 1: was a trader or not. I just wanted him gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was just so annoying to me. They have to
Speaker 1: choose someone to murder with a poison chalice right here,
Speaker 1: and it's hidden in the library. Parverty and Dan debate
Speaker 1: on poisoning either John Chara or MJ. Party and Dan
Speaker 1: decide to go behind Phaedra's back to poison Charat. Parverty
Speaker 1: enters the bar with a chalice. Padrin noticed. She sets
Speaker 1: the cup in front of Ai Charat. Vadri says, she
Speaker 1: knows this is a game, but Shre won't be murdered
Speaker 1: on my watch. Well, I know. Parverty leaves the bar
Speaker 1: and enters the kitchen. She places a child. It's next
Speaker 1: to MJ. But Parverty doesn't think she'll drink out of
Speaker 1: the rest of the yellow cup. Poverty is trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who in this room will drink this cup. Now,
Speaker 1: you were in that room. She did not go towards you,
Speaker 1: but you saw this go go down. You saw did
Speaker 1: you ever think like we we I mean, we talked
Speaker 1: about this. We thought maybe it was Larsa because Larsa
Speaker 1: did the cheers thing. We're like, yeah. And then I
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was Kevin because Kevin was eating everything
Speaker 1: in sight that night.
Speaker 2: So I was like, well, if you remember, we were
Speaker 2: all at breakfast, Alan says in plain sight, and I
Speaker 2: thought it meant in front of everyone. That's why I
Speaker 2: honed in on the Larsa thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone, it made sense to me, made everyone.
Speaker 2: Drink, and I might on that. I'm like, that's gotta
Speaker 2: be that's a little strange, weird whatever, And that was
Speaker 2: all I could come up with. I didn't think that
Speaker 2: it could just be like a few people in a room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you think it was shady of them to
Speaker 1: try to go behind Fader's back? Is that something you
Speaker 1: would have done?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have went behind Padra's back. I mean if
Speaker 2: I were a trader with her, I probably wouldn't be
Speaker 2: being so devious and stuff. I really just like Fadra,
Speaker 2: you know that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Now, Episode four is probably my favorite
Speaker 1: episode so far. It was so good. So it starts
Speaker 1: out with ecken Seue says when she leaves a show
Speaker 1: and finds out who the trader is, she will f
Speaker 1: them up hard. Parvety gives the cup for ecken Sue
Speaker 1: to drink. Ecken Seue tells Parvety that she loves her
Speaker 1: and would never think she's a trader. Parvety adores eck
Speaker 1: and Sue, Sure she does, okay, so it's not okay
Speaker 1: to murder her this way. Allen announces Deontay has left
Speaker 1: the game. Now, we were all sad to see Deontay
Speaker 1: leave the game. It was definitely emotionally too hard for him.
Speaker 1: And you guys, you have to understand, like this show
Speaker 1: is so emotional and it so like gets in your head.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it was sad to seem leave the game.
Speaker 1: But you saw him crying. He was crying. He just
Speaker 1: set yeah in front of.
Speaker 2: Us, and so he was really struggling with like this
Speaker 2: game and how it affects your emotions, and he's a
Speaker 2: very emotional guy, so yeah, just take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were sad to see him leave. He
Speaker 1: wasn't murdered or banished or anything. He just decided that
Speaker 1: this game wasn't for him, which I totally get. But
Speaker 1: watching this back, did you have any idea that poverty
Speaker 1: was poisoning acind because it happened right in front of
Speaker 1: your face.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I honestly, I was still trying
Speaker 2: to think about this ecnsue in the round table thing,
Speaker 2: and I was I was pretty pissed at Yeah. I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, seriously, Like I didn't even want to
Speaker 2: be in the same room with her. So I really
Speaker 2: wasn't watching her.
Speaker 1: Yeh, gotcha. Now, Janelle, I'll have a bone to pick
Speaker 1: with you. So you say, if Phaedra left, you would
Speaker 1: not be okay, But if any housewipe left, then you
Speaker 1: would move on with your life and you wouldn't care
Speaker 1: it what it cares.
Speaker 2: I would care about you. Larsa not so much, because
Speaker 2: like I was not that I like Larsa, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't like working with her. Working with her. I felt
Speaker 2: like you and I worked together, and I worked with.
Speaker 2: I didn't have anything to do with sure a minute,
Speaker 2: like an ounce of game with her, like I always
Speaker 2: talked the game with you and Faedra and Larsa and MJ.
Speaker 2: You know I just like I said, those first three
Speaker 2: days in that car, you get a connection with something
Speaker 2: you know. And I should have known better, but I
Speaker 2: trusted that woman with my life.
Speaker 1: Somebody said at around not at a round table, but
Speaker 1: they'll breakfast. I can't remember who it was, and they said,
Speaker 1: just keep in mind because every time we went on
Speaker 1: a mission we were broken up into different teams. There's
Speaker 1: always going to be a trader in your car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: always going to be a trader in your car. And
Speaker 1: you think back, like, oh shit, Like what did I say?
Speaker 1: What did I do? But CT noticed that everyone from
Speaker 1: Bravo is still here, so he is sensing a pattern.
Speaker 1: And this is when CT kind of changed for me.
Speaker 1: He was so nice and so sweet to me, and
Speaker 1: then all the sudden, you guys, yeah, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was housewives, housewives, housewife. It has
Speaker 1: to be a housewife. You say that the Bravo people
Speaker 1: are clickie. Did you feel like the housewives were clique?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't really feel that way.
Speaker 2: Oh, I said that when I'm describing everyone, I felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm just looking at things black and white.
Speaker 2: I feel like Ravo was together. Yeah, Faithful Alliance was together,
Speaker 2: and the Gamer Alliance was together. And so I was
Speaker 2: just when I was in my confessional describing everything, I
Speaker 2: was just trying to see how I fee into those
Speaker 2: alliances when I was describing things, and I felt like
Speaker 2: I was in multiple alliances anyway. I mean, I had
Speaker 2: a Aedra, I wouldn't have voted you out, Shara, I
Speaker 2: would have voted her out in a second.
Speaker 1: I did not trust Charay in this game, and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. And she wasn't.
Speaker 2: Really trusted MJ. I really trusted MJ.
Speaker 1: And I was of MJ a little bit because she
Speaker 1: was anybody that's super vocal. I was so like suspicious
Speaker 1: of because my whole strategy was to go in there.
Speaker 1: Obviously I was sick. It was kind of God's and
Speaker 1: I lost my voice, which you guys don't know. For
Speaker 1: four days I had no voice none, like couldn't even speak.
Speaker 1: So this was God, God's way of telling me to
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. But so I you know, it's
Speaker 1: not my nature to go into a situation and just
Speaker 1: like observe and be quiet. I'm usually super vocal, and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, people are people are going
Speaker 1: to expect me because I'm a shitstirer on my show,
Speaker 1: They're going to expect me to be a trader. So
Speaker 1: I have to go in there like quiet and you
Speaker 1: know whatever. But there was definitely definitely suspicion.
Speaker 2: To tell for me of why people weren't a trader
Speaker 2: and why they were. I would always go by people
Speaker 2: that would talk game with me, Like I always talked
Speaker 2: to MJ about the game on who we thought the
Speaker 2: traders were. Yeah, I would always talk with you about
Speaker 2: my dumb theories on anything. Yeah, I had housewives theories
Speaker 2: on why a housewife wouldn't be a trader and why
Speaker 2: I think it's a man and all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: there's certain people in the game that I didn't talk
Speaker 2: game too, So those were always.
Speaker 1: Do you know that Phaser would never talk game. I
Speaker 1: actually called her out on it. I'm like, you never
Speaker 1: talked game, it's starting to be a little suspicious, But
Speaker 1: she always talked it with me. That's so, it's because
Speaker 1: you're a gamer. She's smart. She's smart. I mean, you
Speaker 1: calling Kevin a dumb faithful was hilarious. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say that hilarious. I know. Okay, Okay, they are missing
Speaker 1: mj eckin, suit and John. All three of them ended
Speaker 1: up walking in to breakfast. So this is in the morning,
Speaker 1: we got the knock on the door, missing mj eck
Speaker 1: and suit and John. So Dan Parverty and Phaedri's reaction
Speaker 1: to Echan walking in knowing the Parverty poisoned her the
Speaker 1: night before, we're so obvious. They were just like.
Speaker 2: What what, Oh my god. I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: isn't Why did I know?
Speaker 1: Why didn't we see that? Because we were just like,
Speaker 1: we were so not focused. I know in the room,
Speaker 1: I know, I know they are told that one of
Speaker 1: them will die today since yesterday one of them was
Speaker 1: poisoned by the traders. Now I really did think it
Speaker 1: was Kevin, because Kevin was eating everything in sight. I
Speaker 1: swear to God, he was just and then he'd eat
Speaker 1: and food foul of his mouth. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. When Allen announced that somebody was poisoned,
Speaker 1: I mean, our minds go wild because you have to
Speaker 1: think about the night before what happened, Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2: Like you were immediately like the Wheelsworth's turning where like,
Speaker 2: what in the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Well, even like the traders Worth run for a loop too,
Speaker 1: because they were like, wait, did I poison her? Did
Speaker 1: I not poison her? Like what the hell is happening
Speaker 1: right now? And I think it was really funny that
Speaker 1: Poverty poison Echin right in front of Dan, but Dan
Speaker 1: still acted like you didn't even see it. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that an act? I don't get it. Parverty tells
Speaker 1: Dan that everyone thinks eck and Sue is a Trader
Speaker 1: and will freak out when she is dead. Dan doesn't
Speaker 1: think he can win the game without Phaedra. In the
Speaker 1: Trader's conclave, he is working on using Poverty to take
Speaker 1: a shot at Phaedra. Now I feel like that was
Speaker 1: a pretty dangerous game. I don't know. I just I
Speaker 1: always thought when we went into this, like the Traders
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to go against the Traders. But now it's
Speaker 1: getting to a point where Dan's like, Phaser needs to
Speaker 1: go because I need to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at the alliances and the numbers.
Speaker 2: Something's got to happen in the next two banishments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, let's face it, we weren't doing well
Speaker 1: getting We have not gotten rid of one trader at
Speaker 1: this point, and it's like so frustrating. So Me, you
Speaker 1: and Peter all have shields and I mean, this has
Speaker 1: to be one of the coolest visually missions that we have,
Speaker 1: if you called a mission that we've ever done. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are in this procession funeral, like all dressed in black.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy. I'm like, this is how
Speaker 1: I want my funeral to go down.
Speaker 2: It totally I want this when I die.
Speaker 1: I know. And so we literally are like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is awesome, like, oh my god, we're walking. Well, actually
Speaker 1: we're sitting and we're safe, so we don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it, and so we go. There's clues. The
Speaker 1: first so it is who does Johnny trust the most,
Speaker 1: and the answer obviously was Toshelle and CT. The second
Speaker 1: clue was we're players that were born in the same year,
Speaker 1: and you know that went down. Then Sandra says she
Speaker 1: is shocked. This is what's I mean, Sandra, this is
Speaker 1: the shadiest thing she's ever said. She is shocked that
Speaker 1: she's the same age as Larsa because she thought Larsa
Speaker 1: was ten to twelve years older than her. I'm like, I, well,
Speaker 1: Sandra is horrible. Third clue were players who were on
Speaker 1: a team in Red, So got that Parvety, mj ATK
Speaker 1: and Sue with the last three standing. So it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's three of them left. We are standing
Speaker 1: to the side at the moment, and Parvety looked at
Speaker 1: me and goes, oh my god, is it me? Am?
Speaker 1: I Am I gonna die? And I at that moment
Speaker 1: it was the worst acting I've ever seen. And she
Speaker 1: even said in her inner I was doing method acting.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you were doing shit acting because it
Speaker 1: was so obvious. That's what gave it away from me,
Speaker 1: right there. You are a trader. You're a trader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally always knew she was a trader. I was
Speaker 2: just trying to find the other traders I know.
Speaker 1: So that night at the roundtable, Janelle says, you say
Speaker 1: it was suspicious that Larsa said cheers to Marcus at
Speaker 1: the breakfast. Well, it's the only thing we really had
Speaker 1: to go on, honestly. Between that. In Kevin's bad eating.
Speaker 1: You think the cheers was weird, and Larcia says, I
Speaker 1: think you're weird.
Speaker 2: Weird because I went for a shield and I almost
Speaker 2: was murdered the night before.
Speaker 1: I think how selfish you are is weird. Well, it's
Speaker 1: part of the game. Poverty says, actors and housewives have
Speaker 1: the capacity to perform this part. Larsus says, we don't act,
Speaker 1: we live our lives. Major tells Parvety that we are
Speaker 1: not a gang because they were all like put into
Speaker 1: this like housewife Bravo gang, which was not true at all,
Speaker 1: says it appears that way. Why do you go so
Speaker 1: hard to banish Larsa? What made you think she was
Speaker 1: a trader?
Speaker 2: I honestly didn't even think. I mean, I thought she
Speaker 2: could be a trader, but I also felt like it
Speaker 2: just she wasn't a trader. I banished Larsa just due
Speaker 2: to the numbers alone. I was like the second that
Speaker 2: she turned to me and said, let's vote out CT,
Speaker 2: it made me really nervous, because.
Speaker 1: Did you ever suspect CT I did.
Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to get rid of him yet. So
Speaker 2: she turned to me and you were we were all
Speaker 2: standing there, and she said Jane, let's come on right now,
Speaker 2: let's vote CT out. And I was like, who wha, whoa,
Speaker 2: I am not ready to vout ct out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't vote for Larsa. I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: to vote Larsa out. I had conversations with her and
Speaker 1: I felt like she's not a trader, like I just
Speaker 1: I just knew she was not a trader. And then she,
Speaker 1: Larsa says she's been a faithful since day one. And
Speaker 1: then obviously we know what happens. You know, she gets
Speaker 1: up there and she gets banished, and she's not a trader.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's a faithful. Now, if Sharie and
Speaker 1: Larsa would have voted Kevin, if they would have voted Kevin,
Speaker 1: that would have been that he would have been vanished instead.
Speaker 2: Well, now, what in the world, what if should we
Speaker 2: think Charie? What is why didn't she vote for Kevin?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I have no idea because that.
Speaker 2: Would make them like, let me ask you something. Did
Speaker 2: you guys have like a solidified like, hey, the five
Speaker 2: of us are together, we should vote together alliance.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is is that like the four
Speaker 1: of us, was it four of us five of us.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we didn't really even five. We didn't
Speaker 1: even really talk game. We really didn't. We didn't even
Speaker 1: really stick together.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: To me, it was like okay, like there was no
Speaker 1: like listen, you know at that point in the game,
Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out who's who. So what.
Speaker 1: I feel like after this episode people start coming together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I.
Speaker 1: Have your back, Yeah, my back. I'll be your eyes,
Speaker 1: I'll be your ears, Like, let's you know, what's a line.
Speaker 1: I feel like the first few episodes, everybody's just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what the heck is going on.
Speaker 2: It's horrible.
Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's hard.
Speaker 2: Me. I was like, I felt honestly, and I said
Speaker 2: this in my confessions, but to make it the Larsa
Speaker 2: voute for me was the hardest one because I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of working with her. I feel bad,
Speaker 2: but it's like it was such a shaky thing because
Speaker 2: the gamers were working with me too, and they were like,
Speaker 2: she's trying to voteut CT and I'm like, mmkay.
Speaker 1: CT started getting suspicious to me.
Speaker 2: But so that it would have presented another name, I
Speaker 2: would have hopped on that much better. Even if it
Speaker 2: were Kevin. I would have preferred Kevin leave over Larson.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even though Larsa was loud and brash and everything, she
Speaker 2: was actively hunting traders.
Speaker 1: She was she was on a mission.
Speaker 2: I was thinking I was nervous that she was going
Speaker 2: to turn on me and be like, we should vote
Speaker 2: Janelle out.
Speaker 1: But her intuition wasn't bad. She knew Dan was a trader.
Speaker 2: He had fantastic breeds.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the episode ends where Faedra, Dan, and Parverty
Speaker 1: meet up. Phaedri tells Parverty that it wasn't cool to
Speaker 1: try and throw her under the bus like Fader was,
Speaker 1: like pissed. Pissed Fador tells Party that no one likes
Speaker 1: her and everyone thinks she's a trader. She tells her
Speaker 1: to play fair or they will have more problems. She
Speaker 1: also looked at Dan and said you too, like.
Speaker 2: She got him too.
Speaker 1: She Is it a smarter to you to try to
Speaker 1: expose other traders?
Speaker 2: Yes, because it takes the spotlight off of you. I
Speaker 2: think I think, do you think it's.
Speaker 1: Too soon in the game though to do that, or
Speaker 1: do you think it's no?
Speaker 2: Because I think the way it was going to go down,
Speaker 2: and I don't know the next episode, but I'm guessing
Speaker 2: that Dan would have liked to get rid of Phedra
Speaker 2: because she was so well protected she had. He talked
Speaker 2: to me, He asked me what I thought of Fadri
Speaker 2: and I said, oh my god, I trust her. She's
Speaker 2: a faithful like and I told him I don't think
Speaker 2: any of the housewives are faith or are traders. And
Speaker 2: he was like, so yeah, really created, you know, he
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, Well, Chanell thinks that the people that
Speaker 2: she's probably close to think similar that they don't think
Speaker 2: that Phaedra is a trader.
Speaker 1: So weird it is. So it's just a mind buck
Speaker 1: After watching these first four episodes, how do you feel
Speaker 1: the traders are playing anything you have done differently?
Speaker 2: I feel like Faedra's by far playing the best. She
Speaker 2: is a fantastic trader. She's gone undetected. You know, her
Speaker 2: name has not come up in any circle that I've
Speaker 2: been in, or any conversation where's Dan and Parverty's name
Speaker 2: comes up every ten minutes, you know, So she's playing fantastic,
Speaker 2: whereas Dan in a poverty. That's why I think they
Speaker 2: talk start talking about putting the spotlight on party phedra
Speaker 2: Is because they're just not as strong as Traders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Poverty, like I watch like I in person
Speaker 1: like Poverty. I liked her, but watching the show, I
Speaker 1: so annoyed with her. I'm like, you're such an asshole.
Speaker 1: You really are such an asshole.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, she's not known to be like the nice
Speaker 2: kindness girl, and that's okay, but when I.
Speaker 1: First met her, she was she was so sweet and
Speaker 1: kind and she weighs like ninety eight pounds and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's so cute. Like whatever. But anyways,
Speaker 1: but you guys, thank you so much for tuning in
Speaker 1: to the our Well, all four episodes of The Traders
Speaker 1: from now on will be recapping once a week, and
Speaker 1: we're going to find out eventually who the winner is.
Speaker 2: I know who I'm rooting for.
Speaker 1: I know who I'm rooting for.
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the I'm always rooting for the Faithless,
Speaker 2: the Camero.
Speaker 1: I know. But we can't give it away, and we're
Speaker 1: not going to give it away. So now it could
Speaker 1: be one of us, it would be you guys, never know,
Speaker 1: But thank you for tuning in, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: next week,