WEBVTT - Game Strategy 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.800 Tony. Michael, I was thinking for this episode, let's go 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.200 with Plan D but reverse points three and four, skip 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.640 over five, finishing with two. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:19.680 How does that sound? Please stop talking. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:25.119 Break from My Heart Podcast one on one Studios and 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.600 Sports Illustrated Studios. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.240 This is choosing sides. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.240 One. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:41.040 Wow Wow, talk to me goose. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.479 Blake, welcome, give us a little bit of insight of 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.440 your career journey, who you are and what you do today. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.120 My name is Blake Kinsey, former F one performance engineer 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.360 turned content creator White Size Chop. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:56.000 Wow. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.200 So Michael Tony. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.320 Today, with the help from our amazing expert Blake Kinsey, 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.200 I will put forward to you that the absolute best 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.560 kind of F one fan you can be is a 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:12.839 game strategist. That racing strategy is the most fascinating thing 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.800 that I think you can imagine, And it's just the 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.440 right prism for you to approach you F one fandom. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.880 Okay, Well, I believe you and I trust you, but 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.000 you can't control what's in my heart. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:25.400 Well we'll say about that. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:33.840 Oh, if you want to watch a Formula one race 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.319 and understand what's going on, you have two options. You 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 can watch the race lap by lap and observe what's 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.320 happening and say it wasn't that great. But one of 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.760 the best things about Formula one is the suspense, and 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.320 a lot of people get a lot of satisfaction of 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.520 having an understanding of how the game can unfold and 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.680 the variables, and they want to know what's going to 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.680 happen next because they're probably watching it with their friend 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.040 and it's like, watch out for Carlos, here's he needs 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.280 to stop soon for a new times And without that 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.120 kind of context, you kind of sitting there thinking what's 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.280 going to happen next. I think Formula one very much 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.720 has elements of chess, especially when you consider strategy. You 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.520 know you can have a plan and if somebody does 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.000 a different move and you do not react to that move, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.040 you can end up at a disadvantage and it forces 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.799 your hand and it can put you in a difficult spot. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.639 You know that you may not have all the information 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.600 you need to make that decision. But do you make 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.960 a pit stop to cover that car or do you 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.040 stay out and stick to plan A? Which one pays off? 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.720 I keep hearing all this talk about race strategy, Plan A, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.680 Plan B, Plan C is an F one A race 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.480 start here, finish here doesn't seem very complicated to me. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.560 So yes, if one is a race, start here, finish here, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.840 But there's so much that happens in between that formation 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.440 lap and that checkered flag, which is the flag that 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.480 gets waived when they cross the finish line. It's also 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.600 so much more than just the driver. So during F 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.160 one weekends you will hear the commentators or on checks, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.560 but it's like myself say things like, oh, probably going 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.200 to be expecting our one or two stop strategy, or 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.840 we've taken the data from the previous race last year 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.480 and we've got a better understanding of where we're going. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.640 You're gonna hear a lot of that. And the strategies 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.960 are very much tied to things like tire compound choices, 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:19.200 the different racetracks, the weather forecast, and we all dedicate 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.200 a whole episode and dive deeper into the tires. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.200 Please, I can't wait. That episode is where the rubber 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:27.080 meets the road. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.720 Out moving swiftly on. There's also things during the race 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.840 weekend that you can't foresee for so there's these unforseeable 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.840 things like did we have a crash, do we have 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.000 a safety cart, do we have a virtual safety cart. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.960 Is the weather completely different than what we expected? You'll 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.480 see during the free practice sessions or quality. Maybe it's 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.640 you know, sunshine and hot weather, and then for the 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.600 race on Sunday it's your rain and cloudy and gloomy. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.080 Teams could also have a bad pit stop strategy. Something 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.320 in the wheel gun could have blocked in and they 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.600 don't have a two or three second pit stop, but 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.880 they have a four, five, six, seven picks up again 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.240 which flrows everything out the window. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.440 Ricardo is sat there waiting. Did he make the call, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.160 did the team make the call? Whoever made the call? 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:10.839 The tires weren't ready. 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.000 So there's a myriad of things that come into play. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.839 The other thing to note is that the head of 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.000 the team strategy and their whole team are sometimes planning months, 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.120 if not sometimes actually years in advance in terms of 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.560 what this race is going to look like. They know. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.240 The idea for the strategy team is that when they 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.479 land on a Wednesday or Thursday for the race, they 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.120 know what their strategy is or what their strategy options 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:35.599 are going to be. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.320 I have some thoughts, yeah, but my first question is 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.960 you said the head of strategy does that mean there's 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.760 multiple people devoted to the game strategy. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.440 Yeah, so Formula one teams have several strategists. There is 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:54.120 a person who is responsible for, you know, taking all 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.520 the information you have, you know, assistant strategists that are 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.719 looking at a specific car or looking at specific competitor's 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.360 car in relation to you, and they're helping that person 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.919 gather all the information they need. You're also taking information 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.920 that the drivers talking to the race engineer. The race 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.200 engineer is asking the driver about can these tires do 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.080 five more laps? Because despite all the data in the world, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.719 we do not have particularly good metrics to say, hey, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.240 can these tires do five more laps? You literally have 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.159 to ask the human behind the wheel, and all that 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.960 information gets fed into the strategist and they will make 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.760 a call. Very often with most teams, the team principle, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.760 especially for when there's a decision which could have a 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.600 negative impact on the other car. You present those concisely 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.719 to the team principle on the pitwall and they say yes, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.480 go ahead or no, I don't want that as an outcome. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:45.960 Right. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.479 The idea of the ability to predict what happens in 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.720 Formula One in a race in terms of a strategy 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.560 is absolutely down to very high levels of uncertainty. The 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.920 thing that you do not know, particularly with any certainty, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.760 is how the tires will behave during the race. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.080 How can you possibly drive this car with the tire 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:06.760 in that condition? 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.720 And if you're on the roads and a policeman sor 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:09.640 pull you over. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.600 To get really geeky, you talk about something called a 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.320 open air simulation where you basically take your expectations of 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.359 the lap times that the tire is likely to do 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.720 as a function of its age, and you run through 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.520 a bunch of simulations like what if we stop on 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.080 this lap, but if we stop on lip lap? 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:27.159 What if you fit this tire? 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.840 You run a bunch of simulations and you say, what 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:31.720 is the fastest way to the end of this race? 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.800 And that kind of tells you a good starting point. 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.039 One of the strategists once said, we're looking at one 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.800 hundred thousand versions of permutations possible. We can't gain all 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.440 of them, but we've got based on our experience and 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.480 our knowledge, we've got a pretty good idea of what 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.280 are those top ten, top fifty permutations that we should 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:50.440 be spending energy and time on. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.440 I guess they just want to feel like they're not 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.719 surprised exactly. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.080 Yeah, so when they're looking by the way, I mean, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.000 this feels important to say, but kind of makes sense 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.599 when they're looking at all of this state and they're 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.159 not sat there anymore crunching it pen a piece of paper. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.520 But then they're using all of these incredible simulators to 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.160 simulate all the different options available at them. But that 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.320 also leads to why we have so many tech partners 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.360 in Formula one, the likes of Cognizant and Salesforce and 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.800 you name it, because they help these teams aggregate all 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.160 of that data. So I think that's also why we 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.840 have more data analysts in Formula one today than we 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:23.840 used to back in the day. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.280 Yeah, I can only imagine eighty years ago. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:27.040 That wasn't the case. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.360 That wasn't the case. There was probably much more of 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.600 what I'm talking about. Here's the keys, go as fast 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:33.000 as you can. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.920 You know I'm going to say this, but you bring 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.000 up a phenomenal test, which is I was once asked 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.240 where does the driver put the key once they get 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:46.040 into the car. And the fun fact is fact, even 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.400 though it sounds logical, I don't think I've ever heard 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.400 anyone actually tell me this Formula one doesn't have a key, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.480 because it takes four or five people to actually kickstart 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.320 a Formula one, in turn the car, and to turn 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:56.600 it on. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.360 I didn't assume the car was turned on with some 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.680 or in back of munich. Or you couldn't even have 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.800 like a lucky rabbit's foot on your keychain because it'd 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.480 be too much weight. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.560 Too much way that you do have drivers that stick 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.080 a picture of their wives or okay, the Virgin Mary. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.080 I don't know if I'd want to be looking at 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:17.640 my wife at two hundred and twenty miles an hour, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.160 I might it might be better to look at the 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.320 Virgin Mary. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:23.080 Time. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.640 You've gathered some data about your car. You understand what 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.240 you think is likely to happen with the hard, medium 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.080 and soft compound if you fit them during the race, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.120 and you've made some predictions about how they'll behave. But 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:41.040 there's a range to those characteristics. You've also, in preparation 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.920 of your strategy, made assumptions of how your competitors will 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.960 behave in the race in terms of their tires, and 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.199 then add the uncertainty that you have about your own car. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.520 Couple that with the uncertainty of your competitor's car, and 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.520 then you predict that you go into the race by 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.840 lap five. Very often your entire stre agive plan is 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.640 blown out of the window, and then it becomes about 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.160 operational prowess reading stuff that's outside of the data, reading 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:13.080 the context, or most accurately or most correctly extrapolating from 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.800 the data set that you have that's been completely destroyed 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.440 that you thought is correct, it's now completely wrong. The 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:25.000 ability to make observations about stuff that's happening on a 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.520 sector bi sector basis, not a lap by lap basis. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.240 Look at how other people are having how is how 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.000 is the other team behaving on the medium tire because 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.839 they've been on it for two laps and that might 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.760 be the right tire to be on right now. Did 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.600 you observe that and did you make that note that 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.640 it's you know, the medium tire is actually you know what, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.280 it's a lot better than we thought it was before 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.079 the race. The strategy is now changed in a complete 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.840 different dimension. You also have other variables, like what happens 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.040 when the safety car comes out. Teams at every point 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.360 they let's say you've got your original plan and you've 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.800 had a little bit of change, the tires are behaving differently, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.839 so you've adjusted your plan. You've also got to say, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.360 I've made all these adjustments, but now what happens if 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:05.960 we have a safety car in two laps? What do 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.280 we do? Don't you don't wait for the safety car 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.000 to happen and make the decision. You also have to say, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.280 if it's a safety car, what are we doing in 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.960 the next five laps, and continually update that as your 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.240 strategy plan evolves, because those are the kind of things 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.440 like you know, when there's a safety car, your pit 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.480 stop loses you left time, but you might give up 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.320 track position, and do you take that or not? Can 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.439 you can you go to the end from that stop? 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.400 Do you have to make two stops if you stop here? 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.719 It's all of it is hinged on uncertainty, and it's 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:43.200 reacting to that. Strategy is fascinating completely, and it's the 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.680 fascinating bit which makes the sport enjoyable is the chaos 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.280 that you have in the strategy. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:53.319 I'm gonna also rephrase game strategy as overthinking. I mean, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.679 I feel like, are they giving room for the athlete 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.280 to drive the car and feel. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:10:59.839 It you know what. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.440 That's actually one of my favorite things about the sport 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.640 is at what point do you stop strategizing and planning 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.040 and do you just race or do you figure out 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.040 like this is what we have, like go for it? 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.280 And at what point also do you trust the driver 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.520 versus what's happening. So you'll see people on the. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.880 Pit will say, is any one else report in rain? 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.480 We're expecting rain, and the driver's like, there's rain coming 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.440 down on my helmet and my visor. What you're talking about, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.600 we're expecting rain, the rain is happening, sounds like it's 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.520 just you and supporting the rain. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.599 I suspect it might be the sweat. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.319 And that is a trust that gets built over time 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.680 before between the race engineer and the actual driver. The 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.440 other component of that that the race engineer knows is 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.120 is this a rookie driver or is this a driver 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.120 been driving for ten to fifteen years. The reality is 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.000 if it's a driver that's been driving for ten fifteen years, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.079 you trust their gut instinct and what they're telling you 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.559 from what they're seeing. But that's also part of the communication. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.480 So to your point, actually, the race engineer is the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.600 only person really that talks to the driver, and the 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.040 driver knows who is giving him that information. But behind 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.920 the race engineer there's a myriad and a myriad of people. Sure, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.360 one important thing that's actually also somewhat tied to the 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.040 cost cap is you can't bring the entire team to 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.200 the race weekend, so you generally have those five six 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.240 people on the pitwall. Then in the garage you've got 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.000 a bunch more engineers who are data analysts and strategists 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.600 and looking at what the data that they're getting on 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.400 their computers. But then there's a lot of people back 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.520 at what they call quote unquote which sounds really fancy, 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.360 mission control. Most of those teams are back in the 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.120 UK and they look at all the info that's gathered 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.880 and then they send that back to the people on 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.160 track or on the pitwall. But here's also the interesting 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.960 thing is you both need the people who are removed 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.120 from the race and the people on the pitwall and 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.800 the driver because you want the people who are removed 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.800 from everything that are able to take a step back 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.640 and go wait, wait, hold on a minute. We have 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.760 experience with this racetrack, we have experience with this web forecast. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.679 This is what it's teaching us. Then you've got the 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.559 people at the track and go no, no, circumstances have changed, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.920 and then you've got the actual driver. There's a benefit 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.720 to having those people remote, Tony. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.760 I'm getting a message in my earpiece here from mission control. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.160 They want us to pause for some advertisements. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:07.120 Roger that we'll be. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:07.720 Right back. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.120 And back from our break and diving right into the 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.199 strategy episode. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.120 I'm just not as much. I don't I'm not buying 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.800 in as much to game strategy. It's not that you're 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.079 not doing a good job convincing someone. It's just the 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:27.120 athlete brain in me is saying you've got to just 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.040 let these drivers react and race and do what they 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:30.560 do best. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.000 But you've just said the magical word, which is react. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.120 So to your point, that driver is not alone on 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.840 the track. They're there with nineteen other racers, and so 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.560 they're not just reacting to the plan and what they 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.160 think is going to be the best race strategy, but 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.160 they're also having to look at what the other hey 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.680 their teammates, is going to do, but also what the 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.360 other drivers. So it's also about understanding the strategies of 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.800 the nine other teams, something that I had never realized 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.280 there are people who sold job or a big chunk 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.040 of their job is listening to all of the other 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:04.720 team radios. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.920 That'd be fun, that's fine, but you also know that 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.199 someone's listening to your radio. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.400 Yeah, all the teams can hear all the driver's radio 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.280 while they're on the circuit, you know, if they're talking 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.960 about some specific you know, set up stuff in the garage. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.000 Once their cars are plugged into the umbilical we call them, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.360 which transfers all the data. You can't hear the intercom then, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.800 but when the drivers are on the track, you can 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.400 hear everything, and you will often hear other teams talking 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:27.840 in code. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:32.520 Brabo Zito seven on bliss, Brabo Zito seven on. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.160 We're on Plan A, we're on Plan F. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.600 It's too late for Plan G. Take this work. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.760 And sometimes you have to ask the driver very directly. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.040 You know, there's no prescripted ways to ask how's this? 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.280 And you say, how's this tire behaving? 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.800 Would you like to have a new medium to go 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.520 through the traffic or prefer new heart question? 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.800 And the driver has to say, this tire is destroyed. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.840 It's five laps old. The front right tire is gone. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.840 You can't hide that from your competitors. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.360 Come on, there's got to be some disinformation being thrown around. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.320 Sometimes you can have a little bit of disinformation in 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.440 terms of pitstop dummy calls. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:10.880 So you know how when they come out for the 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.720 pit stops, everyone's already in place and there's about twenty 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.440 and it's a fair amount of people. It's twenty people 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.480 get ready to do a pit stop. But sometimes you 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.400 will hear on the radio saying stay put, stay puts, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.320 don't move, don't move. The idea for that is they're 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.160 not giving any warning that they're about to send their 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.480 driver into box, right, so they're asking the rest of 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.720 the team in the garage to not look like they're 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.800 getting ready, and so that's part of it. I just 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.080 think it's so fun. Same with the drivers, they'll say 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.280 hold it, hold it, hold it, and at the last 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.880 minute the box box box. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:47.320 Box, I stay okay, just got it. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.360 There's a little bit of that, But honestly, teams struggle 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.360 sometimes to tell the truth and get everything right. They're 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.560 not gonna play too many games and risk that going wrong. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.640 And like, oh, we were just joking. I thought we 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.560 talked about that in the. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.800 Meeting, I was at the entry man in trouble. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:06.280 Big risk. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.200 Yeah, I mean it would be really fun to hear 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.960 the communication between an NFL football coach and the quarterback. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.440 And that's what this feels like. Yes and f One 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.840 one of my favorite parts of the whole thing, besides 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.200 trying to figure out what S, M and H meant 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.920 thanks to all the was the was the radio communication 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.600 and now I am a communication major important to me 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.080 and it's very important that people in my life are 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.840 good communicators, not just emotional communicators, actual words. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:39.360 What do you want? 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:43.280 Clarity? And that is so important at this level because 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:44.400 you're going twohundred miles. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.680 An hour to the point here where you don't just 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.640 it's not with your intonation that you guess that it's 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.240 a question, but they actually fell out. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.600 You do five more laps question question. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:01.120 I love that. The other thing that's interesting military. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.639 Teams have spent time with experts that are from military 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.800 backgrounds focusing on communication protocols and loops, so that you know, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.439 the idea being say the most information you can and 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.320 the fewest words with no ambiguity in your message. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.119 So boks, now books box, Now, how's the ballots? 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.840 How's the ballots, how's the balance, every touch you know, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.439 and then the engineer knows what to do with that. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:24.159 Okays? 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.600 Did the wealth of information and context you get from 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.080 that is very clear. So that's that's going back to 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.560 the point of you know, the driver and engineer speaking 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.200 a language. And that's not only that, that's clear communication 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.520 between the driver and engineer. To add a little bit 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.320 more context to that, when when let's say, my old 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.240 job was performance engineer, and my job was to feed 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.560 the race engineer with very specific information about the driver's 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.080 performance and the car's performance. The race engineer also needs 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.320 to talk to the strategist, He needs to talk to 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.119 the control systems engineer, the tire technician who's preparing the tires. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.320 So if I'm going to tell my race engineerage, I 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.960 don't have two minutes to tell a message that's a 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.320 lap and a half. I'm going to tell him whatever 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.840 message I need to tell him in less than five seconds. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.160 Questions have to be clear, Statements have to be clear. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.919 The brakes are on fire, stop the car now is 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.200 a very clear message. You know that. Those are the 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.560 kind of things. So the breake calipers are over the 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.359 critical threshold. We have to do something now, you know, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.440 that's a that's a that's a very critical message that 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.960 you need to be clear and concise intonation clarity. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.000 Well, if you're Ferrari, you actually say question. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.639 Can you do ten more laps with your set question? 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.880 You know, here's here's a good thing. Talking about communication, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.200 Ferrari get a lot of abuse for when you hear 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.640 the race engineer apply to the driver, the driver will 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.280 ask the race engineer question, I. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.600 Think the fuck? 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.399 You know. The race engineer says. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.600 Good, check out, okay, copy that we are taking it. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.919 And people have made a meme about that. But that 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:57.080 is a spectacular message. That message says I've heard you, 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.280