WEBVTT - Hey Everybody, It's Me! A Rockefeller!: Christopher Rocancourt 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:05.120 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Zaron Burnett. What up, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.119 Elizabeth Dutton? You know it's ridiculous, girl. I do the 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:13.039 Utah Jazz stop? Yeah? Did you ever wonder why as 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.160 a team in Salt Lake City called the Utah Jazz 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.760 didn't they start somewhere else? New Orleans of courts, right, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.040 They were the New Orleans Jazz. They were an expansion team, 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.520 and they chose their name because jazz is quote defined 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.120 in the Dictionary as collective improvisation, and that's basketball to them. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.120 They're like, yeah, we're the Utah. We're sorry, Utah, We're 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:33.199 the New Orleans Jazz. Okay, well, Elizabeth Jazz, and that 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.120 belongs in New Orleans basketball apparently does not, because I 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.000 looked into this because I was curious, like, how did 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:42.400 that ever happen? Oh Man? In their second stadium, they 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.400 had an elevated court. They were only in New Orleans 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.519 for five years, but they had a second stadium, and 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.120 in the second stadium they was elevated. It was elevated 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.360 so high that the NBA Players Association, the Union for players, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.640 made the Jazz at a net around the court so 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.480 when players fell off, they didn't get hurt here kidding, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.280 like what is going didn't have like enough of a 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.600 I don't hurt. It was elevated like you would be 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.680 watching it like it was a boxing match or something 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.840 like they were up high above the crowd. Is that 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.560 just so that we could all peak up their shorts? Maybe? Yes, 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.800 they were very short then, But there was also like 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.920 not just that, there was the issue of Mardi Gras. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.679 So whenever they had to leave and be out of 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.160 the town, out of New Orleans the entire month that 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.560 Mardi Gras was going, because nobody would go to the basketball, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.520 They're like, oh, forget that. So they were like, well, 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.440 we can't have that look bad, So they would just 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.480 leave town for a whole month. They go on a 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.840 road trip because of Mardi Gras. So after this five years, 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.679 people were like, look, we got to get basketball out 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.759 of New Orleans. So then they moved it to Utah 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.000 and they're like, oh, yeah, but why didn't they change 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:47.840 that question? You know why? Paperwork? What they missed a deadline. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.800 The league had a deadline for to approve a name change. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.120 They couldn't get that in time. So because they didn't 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.760 do that, they just had to keep the Mardi Gras 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.760 colors and become the Utah Jazz. And so to this day, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.200 this Utah Bay Professional basketball team, they now have a 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.280 mascot named Jazz Bear who rides into the stadium on 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.600 a dirt motorbike and he fires off like I don't know, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.600 t shirt guns and you like that, and I don't 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.040 know the only way that this makes sense to me 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.560 is if Jazz Bear and Cocaine Bear are related, that 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.560 would make sense, and then are they are? Now that's 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.160 cannon So but like the team, the team should be 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.639 the Utah Templars, right or the Honeybees. Dude. I saw 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.560 somebody on Reddit they said that, you know, they point 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.520 basically pointed out that it's right next to the Salt 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.560 Lake Green Salt Lake, and they're like, that thing's got 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.680 mad Brian Shrimp. So dude, Reddit user bush did Cloverfield. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:42.760 He posted that the Utah Jazz and I quote should 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.240 be called the Utah Sea Monkeys, and I agree with 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.440 bush did Cloverfield. Go see monkeys. I'm gonna do a 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.799 change dot Org post this make this happen there. You 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.360 got ridiculous, right, It's ridiculous. Yeah, do you know what 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.600 else is ridiculous. Now hit me with it having a 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.639 con career that involves creating a perfume. In line with 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:25.000 Jermaine Jackson, This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:29.200 and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always ninety nine 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:35.360 percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Zaren. I 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.040 love a good European con artist. Yeah, you do, right, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.200 especially when the con takes their show on the road 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.320 to the United States. That's when it gets good. Well, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.560 there were such suckers here for British or European accents 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.360 and continental mannerism. Oh my god. Yeah, if you wear 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.080 like pants where I can see your ankles, and oh 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.960 you must know things, brilliant things. Well, I think you 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.160 know a little about this from your time in Hollywood. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.400 Did you ever encounter any eighty Europeans when you were there? 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.000 Did I ever, we could ask a shorter question, did 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.320 I ever meet any like solid and well to do 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.080 and reasonable Europeans in the film industry? No, I would 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.480 say that. Yeah, I met a ton of shady like 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.520 mostly French, a lot of and so gentlemen. So I 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.440 just trying to find places to invest our money because 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.839 we all saw it, like what you're doing at Hollywood 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.760 is so much fun, and everybody around the world peas 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.240 attentions and we have you don't know very well in 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.520 Germany right now. So we're looking for places to invest. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.440 Do you need some money? You're like, are you kidding? 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.440 You're not a real investor. This is a cocaine deal. Basically, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.599 I think that the guy I'm going to tell you 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.920 about it was before your time there, but he would 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.920 blend right into what you're talking about. I'm talking about 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.240 a man named Christophe Rocancorp. Oh good name. Or was 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:55.640 Christopher Reyes or Christopher Lloyd or Christopher de Laurentis or 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.360 Christopher Rockefeller. Oh, yeah, I've heard me. I'm catching I'm 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.159 catching up. Yeah, so I said European, right, This dude's French. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.760 Apparently he's from the French branch of the Rockefeller fan 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:16.120 Christophe Terry Danielle Rocancourt. He was born in nineteen sixty 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.360 seven in En Fleur, of France. So his dad was 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.200 a house painter and a drunk and an all around 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 garbage human being. I was gonna say, you had me 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.160 going with house and then it fell off. It just 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.280 went right off. A cliff. His mom was a seventeen 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.600 year old prostitute. His early home life was obviously chaotic. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.800 Sounds like chaotic is an understatement. Yes, I don't want 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.840 to get into it because it's a sad, horrible mess. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.400 But the essential part is that Christophe wound up in 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.080 an orphanage. So he gets adopted when he's twelve by 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.400 this military guy in his family, great Tantini type, well, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.320 super disciplinarian. Yeah, Christoph ran away a few times and 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.200 then took off for good when he was eighteen. That 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.880 was in nineteen eighty five. So he goes to Paris, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.440 does some modeling. Okay, as you do, didn't see that coming. Yeah, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.360 he got himself a wealthy girlfriend, and then he pulled 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.320 his very first con look at you. Yeah, he said 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.880 he was Russian nobility, and he called himself Prince day 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:18.000 Gallots in Prince de Gallots as Prince de Gallotzin. He 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.160 forged a deed to this one of the posh townhouses 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.320 that his girlfriend's father owned. Oh yeah, wow, and then 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.360 he tried to sell it a choice one point two 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:32.280 million dollars. Oh wow? Did he? The girlfriend's father owned 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.120 a lot of places. He owned a ton of places, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.719 but no one was buying his Russian royalties, so it 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.839 didn't fly. But between eighty seven in nineteen ninety two 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.360 he did five different jail stints for forgery, counterfeiting, petty larceny. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.159 So he was not good. No, he was not good 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.480 at this. Yes, he skipped over the border to Switzerland 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.560 and then he participated in this home invasion robbery that 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.479 kind of blossomed into a jewelry store heist. That's strange. Yeah, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.279 they bust in, They're like, oh, you you own this 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.400 jewelry store. Take us to the Oh so the cops 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.280 pinned him is a one, Yeah, exactly there. Oh hey, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.080 you're at the jewelry store in Or Let's go down 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.480 to your business. They pit. The cops take him as 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.120 a suspect, but he leaves the country mark so before 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.200 you can get caught, where did he go? His next 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.200 location was the perfect spot for him and where he 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.440 could really run his con in the best possible way. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:26.600 Los Angeles. Oh, yes, so it's ninety one. He's twenty 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.920 four years old. He's a Frenchman on a mission to 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.400 reinvent himself and lighten some bank accounts along the way. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.320 This is who you meet in exactly, so he gets 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.760 in good with the French expatriates in Los Angeles. The 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:44.120 epicenter of that crowd was Cafe Maurice on Las Siannaga, Okay, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.960 and the location is now the Belmont, But for many years, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.600 up until two thousand and one, Cafe Maurice was the 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.160 spot for the French and those who wanted to kind 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:58.160 of be in their orbit. The snobbery was exceptionally thick. Yeah, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.560 a pure Parisian gem. You know what else was thick? 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.560 This guy's accent. Rokan Corp. Yeah. I watched his interview 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.000 with Steve Croft on sixty Minutes and I was totally 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.400 blown away. I thought your French accent was thick, like 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.920 comically so yes, I didn't think any real Frenchman sounded 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.320 like that when speaking English. I was wrong. Yes, Mother 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:24.240 of Pearl, his accent is thick. So anyway, basically I 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.400 do not know what she'll talking about. Um On. In 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.680 June of nineteen ninety two, Rokean Corp. He went to 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.000 this place called Bar One on Sunset Boulevard and it 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.880 was the hip spot in the nineties for Hollywood types 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.679 and the wealthy. Um there were tons of paparazzi photos 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.800 of people like I looked it up. Who was going 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.120 to Bar One at this time? Pam Anderson, Oh yeah, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.679 Ringo Starr had a birthday party there. Christian Slater, Oh yes, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:56.200 Scott bo It's like El listaries. Um, it was a 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.200 hot spot. You gotta trust meet. It was a hot spot. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.520 Even though I couldn't find photographing the so Rogan Corp. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.800 He wanted to go to Bar One, not for celebrity 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.160 spotting or like schmooz rich dudes. He wanted a wheeze 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.720 on the coach check girl a born again Christian named 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.240 greed Park so green. She tried her hand at acting. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.960 She was in the Adventures of Ford Fairlane as twin 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.600 club Girl, and then she was in an episode of 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.560 Freddie's Nightmares. But now here she is reading the Bible 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.960 while working the coach check of Bar One. Like she 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.280 literally sat there reading the Broken Corps, smitten and relentless. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.000 He's like, there's a market or should I say De 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.880 Laurentis was smitten and relent He introduced himself degree as 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.960 Christopher de Laurentis, nephew of film producer Dino de Laurentis. Yeah, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.560 of course, why not. Yeah, and he's determined to get 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.720 together with gree He offers to go to church with her. Wow, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.520 he's like, that's a good date. A couple of months, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.080 his pursuit pays off, Like he just keeps at her, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.600 keeps at her. They didn't have like a normal first date, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.679 they didn't have a first kiss. They flew to Hawaii 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.040 for a vacation. He took her to Hawaii, right, the 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.000 first thing he did. First thing, the first time he 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.280 gets her out of bar one is to go to 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:15.840 They had separate rooms in Hawaii, so he and she's 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.840 like he was a perfect gentleman. So over time though, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.760 he wins her affections, and he also confesses his cons 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.920 to her. This is like way before Instagram, fly me 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.240 out store completely this Yeah, she has nowhere to post 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.000 the picks. Yeah, so you know people who say they're 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.000 not doing it for the Graham or doing it for 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.600 the Graham. Um, So he confesses his cons. He also 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.679 tells her his real name, and he gets her to 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.720 Hawaiian decides the confessor. No, this is like when they 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.920 get back and so then they're kind of they're like 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.560 going around. They go to Vegas, all the time. Yeah, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.400 so this is October of ninety two. The love bombing work. Yes, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.560 the love bombing paid off on one of their Vegas trips. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.960 They got married and then they moved into this new 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.560 home together, a suite at the Peninsula Beverly Hills Hotel, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.920 so green. Though she's starting a little suspicious. None of 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.920 his stories are adding up, and like debts are piling up. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.400 They're starting to have like bill collectors come. So she 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.880 threatens to leave unless he tells the truth about himself 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.280 and his life. Like, hey, Chris, your dad really a diplomat. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:23.240 It's like, no, Leno, he was diplomatic. He was diplomatique 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.719 Uh was he? Are you a drug dealer? Christ Leno? 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.959 And then he's like, all right, fine, I'm a criminal. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:38.440 I'm actually part of the Italian mafia. Gree's like I've 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.240 had enough. I know. That does it for the Italian mafia? Yeah? 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.640 So she the Italian, the Frenchman and the Italian mafia. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.520 So she's like, look, I'm leaving. She goes to her 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.520 sisters in San Francisco. I need to tell you that 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.640 at the time, she's pregnant with their child. Oh yeah, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.000 so she didn't tell him where she was going. Somehow 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.920 he tracks her down. Um, he moved into a place 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.240 just across the Golden Gate from her in Saceleto, a 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.640 lot of marks in Saceleto, and he begs her over 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.760 and over again to reconcile. Did she call the cops? No, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:16.120 kind of she called the FBI. Wow. Yeah, So she's 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.360 just like, this guy's harassing me whatever, So she calls 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.960 the FBI kind of like you called the Coastguard. She 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.920 called the FBI. Yeah, But here's what she does. She 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.880 calls him up and she's like, hey, um, i am 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.000 married to this guy Christopher Rokeencorp. If you've heard of him, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.800 or if you have anything you want to talk about, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.640 give me a call. She leaves a message. Five minutes later, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.080 they call back, and then like ten minutes after that, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:40.120 an agents at her door, already in the Bay Area 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.079 to track him down, because like the agent had gone 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.800 interviewed a bunch of people in Saceleto and in NAPA 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.000 who said they'd all been caned by a guy named 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.640 Christopher de Laurentis and they lost money to him. So 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.880 Gree's like, you know what I'm in, Let's catch this 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:01.280 guy like yeah, So phones are tapped, calls are traced. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.360 Greece sets up this call with Rokean Corp. She's like, honey, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.600 it's over for good no, and then like he hangs 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.559 up on her. A few minutes later, he called right back. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.439 He's like, guess what if BI has arrested me? And 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.319 so hangs up and he's like, I know it was you. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.640 He's like, by zuwe, I will not kill you. Tells 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.320 her I'm not going to kill you. So there's that. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.160 He's like, okay, well I feel a little bit better 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.719 about that. You feel safe. So Rokean Corps. He was 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.720 wanted for that Swiss home invasion turn jewelry heist. He 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.240 gets extradited to Geneva. There wasn't enough evidence though, so 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.880 he gets handed over to the French for all those 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.600 old swindles that he pulled back there. He went to 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.200 prison in France in nineteen ninety four, supposedly for life, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.120 real sentence. Wow, well that sounds excessive, it does, doesn't it. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.960 The French thought so too, so he comes very French. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.760 He goes in in ninety four and he comes out 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.760 in ninety five, from life to one year. Say love 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.840 you if we have a chance in life it is, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.680 it is so imperminent, why should we make you spend 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.240 the impermanent here? So what does he do? He gets 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.440 out and he contacts gree and I am back. He's like, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.400 come to Paris and she does. She's like, all right, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.440 I guess it's like she's the mother of his child. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.200 Or they get back together. She really belies in prison reform. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.320 It's restorative. So they get back together. But she what 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.640 she doesn't tell them is she's had their Marriaginald, so 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.440 it's over. But like, all right, fine, I'll give it 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.000 a shot. They both eventually go back to La and 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.880 then rocan cor is like, I'm going to go straight, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.080 but he obviously doesn't. He doesn't know how to do that, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.040 because otherwise that would be the end of this episode. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.600 So they're on again, off again, and he's like getting 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.880 help from her like Christian missionary pals. Oh wow, Like 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.760 you can sleep on my sofa and I'll pay for 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.600 you to take some classes or whatever. The sheep invites 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.880 the wolf into their homes basically, but at the whole time, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.240 Rogan corp he's romancing a pla boy model named Pia 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.640 Rea's yeah, and in nineteen ninety six they got married. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.920 So he marries this playboy model. They move into Sweet 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:14.560 ten ninety at the Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel, and he 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.400 tells everyone that he's this wealthy French businessman. Sometimes he's 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.760 Christopher de la Rena, nephew of fashion designer Oscar de 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.880 la Renta. Sometimes he says he owns all these Beverly 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.080 Hills boutiques. Sometimes he's Christopher Reyas like he takes progressive 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.640 he takes his wife's name, you know. So he's running 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.960 up all these huge tabs at hotels, boutiques, restaurants because 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.920 he's convincing. Things start to get a little close with 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.520 the debts. So then he just like swindles someone new, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.280 pays them off and then keeps going. So he just 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:51.360 clears his debt with a new swindle, Peter exactly. So 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.520 there he is cruising around La in a Ferrari, this 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:59.200 gray Ferrari. He's playing the part of bon vivant. Everyone 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.440 wanted to come and party at Sweet ten ninety. Celebrities, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.000 rich weirdos, Hollywood freaks, Beverly Hills adventurers. This is getting 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.280 like a Stefan from sn He got himself a bodyguard, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.320 a guy named Benny omgarum Omgar also did security for 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.840 another late nineties spectacle and a Nicole Smith. Oh yeah, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.120 we're in that. Like, um so, let's take a break 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.840 and process this. When we come back, I'm going to 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.960 tell you about the people who partied in Sweet ten 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:52.160 ninety and we're back. Hey, look at us. We're at 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.960 the Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel. Oh yeah, we can see 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.360 Rodeo drive from here exactly U Roken Corps. He's married 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.840 to a playboy bunny living it up. You know. He 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.560 has tons of interesting and weird and shady and naive 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.560 people hanging around and partying with him. It's la Well, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.480 you'd have like a list of like all the stuff 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:16.000 that they like, like drugs, Asian ladies like so. Um so. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:21.040 There's another grifter in this orbit named Leah Bongo. That's 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.760 a great name. Well, she's the daughter of Omar Bongo, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.679 president of Gabon. Oh so not like the cousin of 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.320 no So. He was president for forty two years from 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.720 nineteen sixty seven to his death in two thousand and nine, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.800 and he was plagued by allegations of corruption most of 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:43.560 the president of Yes. Um he was one of the 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.640 wealthiest heads of state thanks to oil money and corrupt ruption. Yes, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:54.080 the other Jack Abramoff scandal. Oh yeah so he yeah, exactly. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.640 He was the lobbyist who went to jail for corruption 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.719 and bribery. That's the simplest way to explain that one. Um. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:06.240 You should do an episode on Jackie. Oh yeah, him Ambigoyevich. Yes. Well, anyway, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.159 so Abramoff he offered to put together a meeting between 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.760 George W. Bush and Bongo for the low, low price 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.720 of nine million. Wow it was meg. Yeah. It was 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.440 never proven that money changed hands, but Bush did meet 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.520 with Bongo less than a year after the offer was made. Wow. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.960 So omar Bongo. He had thirty kids and of those kids, 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.760 one Leah Bongo. And who is she. She's the assistant 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.159 to Jermaine Jackson. Wait a minute, you're the daughter of 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.960 a president and the best gig you can get is well. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.399 Herruption that he had is he was sending tons of 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.320 money over to the States and buying mansions Malibu and 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.280 all these other places, and and just living this lavish 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.120 lifestyle and sending his kids exactly. So I'm not so 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.320 sure if she was like the true assistant or just 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.800 like Smaine Jackson. Sure, but the fact you had to 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.960 show up anywhere on a schedule look like like a 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.760 clock was a part of her life is amazing. Well, 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.800 every time I see the name Jermaine Jackson, all I 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.040 think about is that he has a kid named your Majesty, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.320 and I just keep marveling at that. I give myself 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.200 a little clothes mouth chuckle. So Leah Bongo. She gives 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.720 ROCANCR access to a bunch of like hyper wealthy African 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.080 royalty and he uses that to his full advantage. They're 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.000 giving him cars, they're learning him money, so he's just 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.320 taken advantage. Another clown in this circus is a guy 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:30.440 named Carlos Pinto. He's a Beverly Hills cop and how 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.680 did he meet? Rocan Corps? Gave him a ticket once? Oh, 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.720 i'll take you with corruption now, and suddenly they're like 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.560 Pal's his sister, Lillian Pinhoe, she also entered the friend group. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.120 She wound up giving ROCANCR one hundred and twenty five 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:47.200 thousand dollars for one of his phony investment schemes, and 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.320 this time he said it was a project to open 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.760 an Italian men's clothing shop called pal Zileery downstairs in 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.520 the lobby of the Regent Beverly Wilsher. So he's scamming 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.640 a Cops sister out of one hundred grand to make 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.680 some when she went to this whole thing trying to 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.560 get the money back where she she had to fly 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.879 somewhere to meet up with him, and he had this 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.080 henchman with him, and she thought he was like an assassin, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.840 and they're gonna give her this check. And the henchman 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.720 pulls the check out of his tie and hands it 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.600 to her and she opens it up and it's like 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.040 a fake check, but it's signed by Steve Martin, like 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.520 the comedian. What the whole thing is so confusing? She's confused. 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.000 She's like, are you kidding me? So he takes it 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.600 and then he's like confides like I'm not really a henchman. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.760 I'm like I got con too, So anyway, that's Lilian, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:38.320 I'm like you so, and the check coming out of 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.479 the tie likes a little it's like those old shoes, 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.479 like the kangaroos with the zipper and all you can 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:49.160 get anyway, Steve randomly Steve Martin. So here's Christopher. He's 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.919 like two littling around Beverly Hills and his Ferrari. He 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.600 comes up with fake business deals with which to con 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.920 the wealthy and like the not so wealthy of their money. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.359 Most of the people were wary of his schemes, but 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.119 two men kept him afloat all right. M One was 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.439 Michelle Paulnarf, an aging French pop star who was just 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.440 like in a blonde like his hair looks like a blonde, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:17.080 fright wigs, just a fright um he met he Paulnarf 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.919 met Rocan Court at Cafe Maurice one day. Pulnar Ff 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.600 was like bemoaning the dangers of being a celebrity that 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.520 like no one had ever heard of um and Rokan 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.960 Cort told him, like, I get you a national gun permit. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.640 There's no such things. No, Paulnarf is like, that sounds amazing. 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.080 That sounds amazing. He gives him a couple hundred thousand 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.600 dollars to secure one a couple thousand for a gun plan. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.320 I forgot the perfect Terran. He doesn't deserve the money. No. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:50.400 Another dupe was a guy um Shahram Muzazade. Okay, So 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.000 Shaam he was a boutique owner. Okay, Um, I think 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.200 he may have been a fellow con artist, but that's 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.920 pure speculation on my right. So Shaam gave Rokan Court 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.960 two hundred thousand dollars in cash, twenty five thousand dollars 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.119 worth of clothes. And then that little KICKI Ferrari he 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.639 was driving around town. Remember Jermaine Jackson, yes, father of 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:14.199 ger Majesty, and his assistant Leabongo Rocancourt met them in 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.520 one of Shaham's boutiques. Um, all four of them came 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.040 up with his plan in which sharem would sell a 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.760 line of perfumes based on the hit songs of Jermaine's brother, 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:29.280 Michael Jackson, so like Thriller and Bad you know whatever. 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.600 I'm not sure that Jermaine had the authority to do, 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.720 I guess not. Needless to say, the deal fell through. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.720 Um you know who else Rocan Corps started hanging out 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.760 with around this time? Oh man, I don't even know. 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.720 It's a grab bag. Harvey Kitel, I have no idea. 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.960 Mickey Rourke, Oh my god. So they met at Barfly 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:58.600 appropriately enough on Sunset Boulevard, right, huh Rocan Corps. He 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.919 eventually moved into Nicky Rourk's house. Okay, and they are roomies. Um. 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.440 It was at this point that Rokean Cort took a mistress, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.600 a topless model by the name of Ronda Ridel. So 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:16.000 he's married to a playboy bunny and he is hooking 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:20.720 up with Rhonda Ridel. So he convinces Ronda that he's 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.840 French royalty, but with like a working man's soul. French royalty, 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.520 that there is no the French Revolution got rid of that. 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.359 She doesn't don't tell him, not a reader. She falls 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.320 head over heel, of course, right, not, he's a prince. 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.440 She also didn't know that Rocancorp had a wife at home, 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:40.240 and oh, ps Pia Reus had a baby. So they 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:41.879 have a wife, He has a wife and child. Of 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.280 how these people are always fertile. Yeah, do you know 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.280 what their child was named? I don't know what zeus. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.679 I'm not kidding. So Ronda and Rocancor they're living this 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.320 party lifestyle and it's just like two intoxicating. She can't 0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:01.840 help it. Oh, I want you to picture it. Yes, 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.560 it's March nineteen ninety eight. It's about midnight and you're 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.720 sitting on the patio of the Garden of Eden nightclub 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.680 in Hollywood, on the corner of Hollywood Boulevard and Labreya. 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.840 The place opened last year and it is the place 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.400 to see and be seen. You are loving the luxurious 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:24.040 Moroccan decor, the candles, the fresh flowers. You can hear 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.600 the dance floor a popping inside, and you're loving the 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:32.439 people watching, like, what is that David Faustino over there? No, 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.240 it just looks like them. But you know, you're pretty 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.280 sure that Mickey Rourke is sitting at the next table, 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.359 and you want to tell him that Angel Hart is 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.080 one of your favorite movies, but you decide to sit 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.720 back and let him enjoy his evening. Yeah, please deserves that. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.160 Mickey Rourke is sitting with a bunch of people. He's 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.080 talking to one guy in particular. He's loud and he 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.920 has the most incredible thick French accent. So you see 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.520 some concern on the frenchman's face as he looks just 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.040 beyond you. You turn to see where his gaze is 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.359 landed and you catch sight of a very buff guy 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.879 in a tight T shirt. Guy has a ponytail, so 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.560 you know what he means business. Yeah, Roken Corp tells 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.879 the guy take a picture out if we last longer. 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.320 The buff guy says, it's free country poll or words 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.680 to that effect. I'm just riffing here. Suddenly the buff 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.640 guy stands up and threatens Roken Corps life. I won't 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.320 repeat what he said, but it was colorful, Rourke. He 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.920 moves to hold Roken cor back. You don't held back 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.240 by Mickey Rourke. Yeah. And then the buff guy's pal 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.760 they like they step in, They're like, no, man, it's 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.200 not worth it. Um. So everything like dies down. People 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.760 eventually head out to either go home or keep party 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.520 going somewhere else. You just keep thinking about this guy's accent. 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.280 Oh yeah, just in your head, and the amount of 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.240 hair care product that I just saw getting a fight, 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.680 and like pseudo boxer because well, you know, and Rokean Corp. 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.240 First came to the United States, he told people at 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.320 Cafe Maurice he was a boxer. Of course, So yeah, 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:57.320 it all works, oh of course, Mailer so and Mickey Rourke. 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.840 So the next day you are weirdly craving French onion Sue, 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.440 and you head to Cafe Maurice to sate that desire. 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.120 As you're standing outside, you're waiting for your table for one, 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.840 you see a giant black hummer pull up to the curb. 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.320 What you don't know is that the hummer used to 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.520 belong to Dodi Fayette. And it's just I told you 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.000 it's a grab bag of Diana's boyfriend. Yeah, that due 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.120 at that time was the recently deceased Egyptian film producer 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:30.359 in paramour Diana, Princess of Wales. Dodi Fayette's son of 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.399 billionaire owner of Herod's department store, Mohammed al Fayette. The 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.120 man behind the wheel had a bit of an obsession 0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.840 with Dody. He tried to meet him a bunch of times, 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.040 and even went to an open house when Dodie was 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.199 selling his house in Malibu because he thought he'd be 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:45.800 there and he could see him, which like that doesn't 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.719 owners Right there after Doughty died in that Paris tunnel 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.720 with Diana, the man behind the wheel somehow managed to 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.639 buy that hummer what and it was tricked out too. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:02.800 The surveillance had surveillance cameras on the back. No, they 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.800 weren't driving the hummer. They were It was like yeah, no, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.959 that the hummer was in La so Dodie dies and 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.359 he's like, can I get in? Can I get in 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.480 on that car? Because I love Dodie? I got you? 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.840 And so it had surveillance cameras on the back like 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.160 in the late nineties that wasn't common or cheat No, no, yeah. 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.919 So the window of the hummer rolls down and you 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.320 see that it's none other than the frenchman from last night, 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:30.760 Christopher rokean Corp Kell coincidence. So he's about to shout 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.000 a greeting to the major d who's like standing outside 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.679 the door, when this black Mercedes five hundred pulls up. 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.040 Who should exit that vehicle but the buff guy and 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.800 his friends from last night? Oh no, crazy coincidence, Kell, 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.760 crazy coincidence. Roken Corp and the Buff guy like lockeyes 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.320 Roken Corp peels away from the curb and the fellas 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.440 from last night jump back in the ben zone. Give chase. 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.280 Oh wow, car Chase is on. What in the world? 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.560 Who put a b in their bonnets? That's what you're 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.280 thinking to yourself. Then you hear zaren party of one 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.120 your table's read, so you go inside. You get delicious 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.600 French onion soup, maybe some steak fried who knows the 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.359 night is young Zarn. Meanwhile, Christopher Rocan cor He's like 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:13.359 hall and tail down Las Siannega in SNL Californian's style. 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.360 I'll tell you he went down Las Siannega and then 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.360 he turned her right on Melrose, and then he made 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.000 another right on San Vicente. Okay, see kind of know 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.159 where he is. As he's watching the car in his 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.720 rear video monitor, his mistress, Rhonda Rydell, calls him and 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.800 he tells her, I am being chased by a car. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:35.040 It is full of are Arabs. Please calls it police, 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.600 and so she's like, wait, the what and the what now? 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.720 So here's rocan Cors. He's like being followed by a 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.400 Mercedes of what he's describing as angry Arabs. He stops 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.600 at the light at San Vicente and Santa Monica. The 0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.000 Mercedes pulls up next to him, and then suddenly a 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.480 Hundai pulls up behind him. The man in the Hunday 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.040 gets out. Ronda's still on the line at this point. 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.560 She's like listening as Christopher sits in tense silence. Shots 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.920 ring out, The car peels away and Roken court uninjured. 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.840 He gets out of his car and he runs to 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.720 the La County Sheriff West Hollywood station located Conely at 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.080 that corner. Yeah, so they shot him in front of 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.600 the Sheriff's station. Yeah. I mean it's huge. You can't 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.680 miss it. No, or did they wait? So the cops 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.360 go outside, they secure the scene. They find bullet holes 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.960 in the hummer. Here's the problem. They came from inside 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.160 the car. And then they also found a glock. So 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.600 they searched local hospitals. They find the man in the hunday. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.720 He had a graze wound on his arm. Okay, so 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.200 of course Roken Coort is brought in for questioning. When 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.400 this sort of thing happens, the police don't just let 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:42.840 it go, right, so they ran as information. They find 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.600 out that he's wanted for passport fraud. Okay, what passport fraud? 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.240 You say, what passport fraud? I said he held a 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.959 valid US passport sort of. Do you remember Leah Bongo? 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.920 Oh yes, okay, she and Roken Coort paid a couple 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.720 of grand to two LA passport clerks in exchange for 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.600 a passport for Rocan Corps who was not a citizen. 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.920 So he has he has a fake passport from the 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.640 actual passport agency. But he's got a fake American, fraudulent 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:14.080 American passport. Yeah. So Rocan Corp's wife, Pia, she comes 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:18.040 down to the station, so does his mistress, Randa, and 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.320 that's where they found out about each other. In the 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.800 of the police station. The Sheriff's department run like she's 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.920 still in love with Roken Corps, but she ends the 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.840 relationship because he's married. She had no clue up until 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.280 that points a wholeman of great virtue. She is so 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.479 Roken Corps. He caught gun charges for having the glock 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.720 on top of the passport charges is bail is set 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.280 at one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. He asked 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:47.280 all of his pals, from Mickey Rourke to restauranturs to 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.520 random wealthy investors he knew for bail money, no dice. 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.280 None of them had the seventeen thousand five Pia was 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.840 able to rustle most of it up and Rokean Corps 0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.360 is released. He's out on bail, which for him out 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:05.000 of the area. He jumped bail in the wind. Where 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.120 did he go? When we get back from this break, 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:32.560 I'll tell you. When we left off, Christopher Rocan Corps 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.480 had skipped bail in LA and was in the wind completely. 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.480 Where was the wind for Christopher Rocan car Let me guess, 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.280 I'm thinking maybe we get Anabitha in this no New 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:48.280 York City. Oh, he Pia and their son Zeus. They're 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.400 living in a posh loft department in Lower Manhattan. Of 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.200 course he's going big with his cons there. He gets 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.720 one hundred and seventy five thousand from this businessman who 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.800 was an immigrant. He gets forty thousand dollars in merchandise 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.800 from a store, He owes twenty thousand and back rent. 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.680 He gets forty thousand from a store employee for a 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.239 quote investment. He bought a building in Dumbo that Jay 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:14.160 Z didn't want Dumbo, And so he seduces this wealthy 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.760 woman and she gives him ninety grand in cash, and 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.560 then he also steals two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.000 worth of jewelry from said wealthy woman. Who Yeah, But 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.240 here's the thing is that like a lot of the 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.640 really wealthy people that he was ripping off were so 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.040 embarrassed by it and they didn't want their affairs made public. 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.920 They wouldn't talk to the cops. They just let it go. 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.680 I think we need to not skip over this point 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.560 because we've heard this come up lots of time. People 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.560 are like, I'll write off that one point five billion. 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.480 This wouldn't even make a dent for her, this amount 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.480 of money, whoever she was. So that's all well and good, 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.880 but for real money, he knew where he had to go. 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.200 The family now with an assistant named Dante Dan Yellow, 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.959 who was calling himself Joseph but apparently had like a 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.760 big stick like bronx accent, call me Joe um. They 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.720 moved to the Hamptons, headed up there. So Rogan Corp. 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.600 Is looking at properties to quote unquote buy, but like, meanwhile, 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.960 he's taking the real estate agent for more than one 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.040 hundred thousand dollars on a fake stock tip, like, oh, 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.360 we can invest the money. He's working his own real 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.600 estate agent. Yes, yes, but he's not really looking to 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.200 buy a hell I know, but he's just present to 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.920 the real estate agent. It's so busy trying to call. 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.400 He's like, oh, I'll get in good with this wealthy guy. 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.360 I'll get a huge commission. So it's at around that 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.680 time that he starts introducing himself to people in the 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:39.320 Hamptons by a new alias, Christopher Rockefeller. He had his 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:43.880 quote unquote assistant quote screen as calls in front of people, 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:49.960 either like accepting or declining calls from like aristocrats, Kennedy's celebrities. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.360 Um so like, oh, you know, we've got I don't know, 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.000 some famous person on the line. Alanz, I'll call him, 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.120 he said, the Hamptons. All right, I've got Dershowitz. And 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.000 he's like, I'll call him back. This is what Jim 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:05.520 Rockford used to do on the Rockford Fi TV. Rockefeller Rockford, 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.799 I see a connection. So one day he's at the 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.480 Easthampton Jim getting a massage as you do. He convinced 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.080 the masseuse corene Ill Tink that he had a great 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.120 investment opportunity that would triple her money. He's stealing from 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.880 the massage. Yea, So she gives him fourteen thousand dollars. 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.920 What the hell. He's just super charming. She's like, you 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.719 know what, come hang out at my house. Like, I 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.840 have a lot of cool people friends there. One of 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.720 the friends is this Spanish painter named he Nez Saran Pagan. 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.840 That's a Great Glos and then he and then another 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.640 good friend of hers is this guy Kevin McCrary, So 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.239 they'll come back to us, all right. Karin's father back 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.440 in the Netherlands had a stroke, so she had to 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.640 go out and fly and see him. But she wanted 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.120 to use the investment opportunity from Rocan Cord to triple 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.600 her entire savings because she's like, I'm going to need 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.040 this money to take care of my dad. So she 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.960 has one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars she wants 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.799 to give it to Rocan Corp. To invest. So she 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.799 calls up her friend McCrary and is like, hey, I'm 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.480 at the airport, you know, can you take this money, 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.920 take it to Rocan Corp And like have him invested. 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.400 He's like all right, fine. So McCrary meets up with 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.400 Rocan Corps at Karin's house. Red flags a fly in 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.520 all I hope. So, yeah, he's uncouth, Rocan Corps. He's tattooed, 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.920 he's sloppy, and these are not the traits of a Rockefeller. 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.600 Now generally, here's what McCrary told Vanity Fair quote. He 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.960 set me off immediately. How could a Rockefeller be associated 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.319 with such a bumbling fool. It didn't fit. Nothing fit. 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.280 He's French. My family has known the Rockefellers for decades, 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:45.160 Nelson David, We've known them for years. If there's one 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.440 thing I know, it's growing up around money. He didn't 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:54.240 feel like money. Wow, seriously. Yeah, So McCrary, he finds 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.560 out that another friend of his had given Rocan cor 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.759 money and he's just like, I rate, who, why are 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.720 you guys trusting this man? So he tries to report 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.560 it as a crime, but no crime had really taken 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.319 place yet, because it's not like, you know, he had 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:14.239 stolen something immediately. So meanwhile he nes Saran pagan Um. 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.839 He's grown wise to Rokan I know, and I wish 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.880 he could see it written out, because it's amazing. It 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:25.400 looks like giants, Sarah Pagan, but it's he nes Saran 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:30.279 pagan Um. So Sarah and Pagan. Uh. He doesn't go 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.840 to the cops. He's wise to him. He doesn't go 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.719 to the cops. He's an artist, a free thinker, a 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:39.200 free spirit, a jokester. He was fascinated by Rocan Cory 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.000 wanted to know more. This is what he later told 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.640 The New York Times quote. I wanted in on his game. 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.920 I liked him, but I knew he wasn't a Rockefeller 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.919 as a con man. I'll give him an eight on 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:58.200 what scale? So uh he nes he sets up a 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.560 dinner party at his house. I'm sure the Hampton's has 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.640 its share of weird dinner parties, but this is like 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.439 got to be up there for it. He assembled an 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.960 interesting and eclectic group. Pierre a peculiar art collector, Maria 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:16.040 and Clia, daughters of a wealthy Greek shipping magnet. Okay, 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.040 and not Suko, the daughter of a top executive at 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:23.319 Sony International. Did Ryan Johnson write this pretty much? Go on, 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.640 here's the thing though, they're all imposters. So Pierre is 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:34.960 actually Peter Fazio, a local contractor. Maria was really Maria Etemides, 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.560 the New York bureau chief at People magazine. Oh wow. 0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:44.280 Clia was a friend of hers and a jag lawyer. Lawyer, 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.680 And then Notasuko Utsumi had no relation to anyone at 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.279 Sony and was actually a photojournalist who was working on 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.560 a book about African genital mutilation. I mean, you have 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.719 to run that back. No, So Maria the journalist, she 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.680 could not help herself, but quiz roken Corp on his 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.840 lifestyle and the question she asked out more and more probing, 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.920 like where do you live? How would you describe your house? Like? 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.279 And as he's getting shorter and shorter, more and more 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.439 terse like, she starts pressing him and then he Nez 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.920 is like stop, like kicks round to the table. So 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.280 most of the time, though Rokean Chords just held court. 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.440 He's like waxing demi elegant on things like art, economics, 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.040 the ladies. Do you think a good job? No? Imagine no, 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.200 he was terrible. So at one point and he's like 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.040 super pretentious about it. At one point he told Rokean 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.319 Chord he was a genius and like this is and 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.400 roken Cords like, what do you mean? And you know 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.720 Einstein was a genius. I am but a simpleman. And 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.120 this is what this is how he Nez relayed what 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.279 he said to Vanity fair quote. A genius is a 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.400 person who has control, who has no fear, he said. 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.680 For the briefest moment their eyes met, and Pagan sense 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.000 that some part of Rockefeller's elaborate mask had fallen away. 0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.719 Then he knew the artist speculates today he knew that 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.080 I knew, and he knew I would keep his secret, 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.080 that I wouldn't turn him in. Wow, so they're just 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.640 like scammered, a scam. He knew that I knew that 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.480 I knew that he knew. Also, his definition of genius 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.760 would mean that both Evil Knevil and my neighbor Bob 0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:21.320 are both geniuses. Your point, Yeah, he's a low bar 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:27.000 so McCrary though, he's not tickled by Roken Corp's deceptions 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.120 the way that he nez is mccrary's I rate. So 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.440 he keeps bugging the cops until they get a lead. Right, 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.000 Rokean Court was not staying at a fancy summer home 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.600 like he had everyone believing. Like he told people that 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.120 he lived on whatever, like the fanciest street there was. 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.080 He would name drop that and they're like, oh really, 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.000 which one? Um, He's staying at a bed and breakfast 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.000 and he hadn't paid the bill and he owed nineteen 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.040 thousand dollars kind of bed and breakfast I don't know. 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:57.319 So he gets arrested and he provides an idea a 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:02.959 passport that has the name faby In or Tuna, and 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.160 so you know he's sitting there in jail, his attorney 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.840 shows up, Bruce Cutler. I don't know if you know 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.640 that name. That's John Gotti's familiar. Yeah. So the next 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:18.680 day post forty five thousand dollars casha, no, post forty 0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.400 five thousand dollars cash bond, and once again in the 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.960 wind Man. So it wasn't until after he's out on 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.520 bail that the police ran his prince are you kidding me, 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:33.720 Sleepy Hampton's so oh, there's all the mess in La Rome, 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.280 Hong Kong like understuff in exactly, so he's getting around. 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.680 Roken Corps wasn't totally off the radar, though. He reached 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.319 out via third parties to talk to the media while 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.600 he was on the run. He told the New York 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.799 Times quote, I would not consider myself a criminal. I 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.120 steal with my mind. If I take things. If that's 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.560 your definition of a criminal, then I am a criminal. 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.880 If they catch me, I will make no deal. I 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:01.759 will do my time. I steal in my mind. This 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.759 is more of what he told the Time quote. I've 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.120 never killed anyone, he said. I don't believe in taking 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.880 another life. It is the ultimate sin. He said. He 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.680 felt no remorse for his actions, just pity for his victims. 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.360 I feel sorry for their greed, he said, I'm not laughing. 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.880 There's nothing funny about stupidity. Would he be caught? That 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.480 is in the hands of God, he said, So there 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.040 we go. Damn. He insults his marks. He says, he's 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.560 not about me. They're stupid and greedy and if anybody's 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.359 gonna come after me, it's God, and right, I ain't 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.360 listen to another. Wise, where is he when he's getting 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.560 all emotional with the press. This is amazing Canada. He 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.719 went to Canada. So he and his family they made 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.359 their way to British Columbia. They ditched the assistant. It's 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.320 just Himpia and zeus that there they meet this businessman 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:51.640 named Robert Baldock, and Rocancourt tells Baldock that he's actually 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:56.800 Michael van Hoven, Formula one racer for Ferrari. It's like, sure, 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.399 of course, yeah, And he's like, you know, I make 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.880 twenty eight in a year. It's a pretty cool gig. 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.640 You know, do what you love. You never work a 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.239 day in your life. And so he said, you know, 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.359 what do you do, Baldoc? He's like, well, I own 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.560 this medical diagnostic company. He's like, Fontastique, they give you 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:16.120 five million to invest. Baldock's like, oh okay. So he's like, 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.080 I'll transfer the five million to you. And in the meantime, 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.880 like Baldoc and this wife, they're just showering him with gifts. 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.720 They give him a suite at this luxury hotel resort, 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:29.000 they give him a Rolex. Baldoc goes to Switzerland in 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.960 order to complete the transfer of funds. Okay, he did 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.080 this a few times because it never took So he 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:39.880 goes to Switzerland because in person to pick up money. Essentially, 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.320 he goes to UBSA, Switzerland, and it's like I have 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.759 There's all this confusion, like he's showing up. They're like, oh, 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.319 do you want to open account? He's like no, no no, no, 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.080 I'm supposed to take stuff. I don't know what was 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.920 wrong with everybody involved. How do these rich people have 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:58.280 this money? Like they're so irresponsible and like casual about it. 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.520 It seems like money is really leased. He does this 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.680 a bunch of times. He goes over there, and every 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.080 time Rokean Coors like, oh, you know what, it didn't 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.160 go through because I don't know the fates do not know, 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.520 and then he flies over again. Yeah, he's like, well 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.560 try it again, like next week, come back and then 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.759 try again. So the Balldocks they'd had enough. I hope 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.080 they go to the cops. They go to the Mounties. Yes, 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.960 Rokan Corp gets arrested and charged with fraud. He pleads guilty, 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.960 and then he also pleads guilty to the charges in 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.000 LA and New York. P said she had absolutely no 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.360 idea what was going on, didn't have part of the scheme. 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.680 I don't really believe that, but they let her go. Huh, 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.560 she doesn't get charged. Rokeancorp did a year in a 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.880 Canadian prison, and while he was there he did what 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.440 all our favorite criminals do, not make toilet wine, but 0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.120 rather he wrote a book. Of course, it's what you 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.200 do in prison. It has an amazing title, I Christopher 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:55.439 rokean corps, orphan playboy prisoner. That's the title. Huh so good. So, 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.480 after finishing his time in Canada, he gets sent to 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.359 Brooklyn to face federal charge. Is on eleven counts of fraud. Okay, 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.120 felony counts. So now he's actually facing something. Yeah, his 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.759 lawyer didn't request bail. He pled guilty because I mean, 0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.200 I don't know how it is, but I imagine a 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.560 Canadian prison is from what I've seen, is kind of 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.680 like the some of the northern European prisons, like in 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.160 Sweden and Denmark. And it's basically like, oh, you got 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.320 a free hotel room and some space to write. I 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.200 don't know. I would hope so I honestly. But still 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.000 in October two thousand and three, he gets sentenced to 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.880 three years and ten months, so forty what is it? 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.200 Forty six months in jail plus one point three million 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.719 in restitution, and he gets ordered to pay seventy five 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.279 percent of any profits from telling his life story, whether 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.920 a movie or a book, sure to pay back the victims. 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.720 The judge, the Honorable Charles Sifton, had this to say, quote, 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.640 the likelihood that people are going to take seriously anything 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.840 he says or rely on it in the future is 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.719 rather slim. Yeah, but it'll still sell books, huh. So 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.839 he gets released in two thousand and seven, sent back 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.600 to France. Much like our pal Elmir de Hori. His 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:04.719 social currency was only enhanced behind like by his time behind. Yes, 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.760 of course, so he starts dating Sonya Roland. The former 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.600 Miss France. What In two thousand and seven Want you know? 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.680 Two thousand and seven, he meets French filmmaker Kathleen Bleia. 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.400 She asked him to be in a movie that she 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.160 was making called Bad Love, and it was based upon 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.480 a novel that she wrote. The star of the movie 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:28.120 Naomi Campbell, pulling all the nineties names two and seven 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.880 and that's how he found himself on the red carpet 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:35.240 at Con as the date of of Naomi Campbell Leyeah. 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.600 She also gave him money to write a screen pay 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.000 about his life. Do you get the idea that him 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.719 being handsome is really a big boy and he's sort 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.880 of in that handsome like that who's the French actor 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:52.359 of Vincent gall No, the French one Vincent. He's kind 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.000 of like that where it's like he's not traditionally handsome, 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:56.879 but you can see it. I think that guys can 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.440 traditionally handsome. But I mean, I don't think traditionally he 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.160 doesn't look like all those weird like frat boy, cookie 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.120 cutter American act Oh oh yeah, but I was in 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.480 bring like French, right, I think he's handsome, but it's 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.239 like I think I could see how people wouldn't and 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.840 so that's kind of imagine him. I think he's handsome 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.880 this one, but you can also see like in some 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.080 pictures where maybe people wouldn't conventionally here okay, because you 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.480 remember you said he started as a model. I was 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.719 wondering if that's why it's always helping the people. Yeah, 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.600 but not in the model he was very much in 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.600 like the kind of c k one, Calvin Clin, like 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.680 Calvin Klein like, um, I don't know, it's just that 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.359 he doesn't he didn't have like the traditional model looks. Um, 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:37.239 So he's getting money to write a screenplay about his 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.799 life Byah also loaned him more than six hundred and 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:45.479 fifty thousand euros for various projects and things. By July 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.520 of two thousand and nine, she was fed up, and 0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.319 she published a book accusing him of taking advantage of 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:54.040 her diminished mental capacity following a stroke that she had 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.880 in two thousand and four. The book, called Abuse of Weakness, 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:03.800 was eventually made into a filming Isabelle Hupair. In twenty twelve, 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.759 rocan Cor was arrested for defrauding Bryat and did some 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.920 time in prison. A twenty fourteen he gets arrested again, 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.920 this time for bribing a police officer to supply him 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:19.640 with passports to end visas to sell at outrageous prices 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:23.600 to illegal immigrants. Yeah, so I don't know what he's 0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:27.400 up to now exactly. He's written seven books in total. 0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:33.040 He has an Instagram account Chris rokan cor O f 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:38.040 like official just thirty two thousand followers. There's a lot 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.239 of pictures of him living a really super elegant lifestyle. 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.480 He's like sitting in a beach chair on a cold dale, 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.680 bundled up with the caption life is a storm worth 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.560 living to the fullest. But it's in French, too tired 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.919 to butcher that it's very much like a Kendall roy 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.560 look book his Instagram account, or rather the unknown Roy 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:02.280 brother we didn't know we needed on succession makes sense. 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:06.080 He's like the It's like as stint as a Rockefeller 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.240 roy Um. So there he is. Check him out, Zarin, 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.360 what's your ridiculous takeaway? Man? I used to think Mickey 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.879 Rourke was pretty cool, but now I'm wondering is if 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.560 he could hang out with this? Do have wild Mickey 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.319 Rourke stories that I cannot share Everything that I've heard 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.360 from friends in La and I'm just gonna leave it 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.680 at that. Terrible things that I can't share really like bad, 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.320 like bad bad, or like bad like weird bad weird. 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.400 Oh yeah, okay, and I'm gonna I'm just gonna tease 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.520 that and leave it. I just always found him peculiar, 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:38.520 starting from when he wanted to be a boxer. I 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.680 was like, oh, that dude's not right. I love it. 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.760 So I always paid attention to him. And he's also smart. 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.480 I mean he's like, he's charismatic, he's interesting, he's curious, 0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.040 a lot of the things I really respect in a person. Yeah, 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.120 but also he's just so uniquely him that I was like, 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.480 I like to think that inside of there there is 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.280 some like not I don't say goodness. I'm not measuring 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.520 his soul, but I mean like something some spark of 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.560 like real raw humanity and like like a flame of 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.600 not like a pure spirit, but like an artistic spirit, 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:08.960 which I understand he's gonna hurt, hurt people think he 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.400 was malicious people. I don't want that. I don't think 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.799 he was ever taken by Rokean Corps. And I think 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.800 it was just like an interesting thing to so maybe 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.719 Roken Corp helped take care of those chihuahuas he carries, Sure, 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:21.080 and I can see him. I mean, he's gonna have 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.080 weird friends, you know, so I imagine his quartier. You 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.839 are just all kinds of weird friends. But like this 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:31.319 is like I just would expect or I guess exactly. Yeah, 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.759 what's your ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth? My ridiculous takeaway is that 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:39.080 if you can go through things with a ridiculous accent 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.439 and really like carry yourself like you know what you're 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.759 doing and you're you're above it all, you can get 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:48.880 away with whatever. Certainly from expial. Well, that is it 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:56.560 for today. Excellent. Oh. You can find us online at 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.759 Ridiculous Crime, about Twitter for the talking, Instagram for the go. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.160 Can email us at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com, 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.120 do a talkback iHeartRadio app, leave us a voicemail tune 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:15.440 in next time. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.719 and Zarin Burnett, produced and edited by Dave Kuston, heir 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.440 to the Rockefeller Records. Fortune Research is by Marissa. Jeff 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.880 Bezos is my cousin Brown and Andrea Bill Gates is 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.560 my uncle. Song Sharp and tier. The theme song is 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.880 by Thomas Larry Ellison is my half brother, Lee and 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:35.520 Travis Warren Buffett is my son, as is Jimmy Buffett Dutton. 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:39.840 Executive producers are Ben Hey, McKenzie Scott, How You doing Bowlin' 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.640 and Noel I Am from Ziemeric and Blanche of z 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:54.280 Alno Family, Brown Quiet See One More Time We Quisque 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.760 Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. Four more podcasts 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:00.879 to my heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, 0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.800 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.