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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio, we are back. I'm Dale Elly

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson and Matt I wanted to go

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Speaker 1: back to something that we talked about prior to the draft,

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Speaker 1: and it was something that a lot of people were

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Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, I want to I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say panic is the right word, but they

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Speaker 1: were talking about this like it was something that was

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to be resolved. And that is the number

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Speaker 1: of players that the Steelers have on the contract, because

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Speaker 1: everybody that was one of the narratives of soon as

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Speaker 1: last season ended, they only got x amount players under

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Speaker 1: contract eight team players seven. He was seven team was

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Speaker 1: the lowest that it was. Well, that's two years away.

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Speaker 1: For one thing, the draft hasn't happened, Free agent hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: You haven't extended some of your guys, we haven't even

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Speaker 1: got the MINCA and why there ain't going anywhere. So

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Speaker 1: let's let's break that down. I'm interested. So the Steelers

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Speaker 1: now have forty four players under contract for the two season,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they want that number to be massive,

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Speaker 1: and I think they want to be somewhat liquid next

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Speaker 1: off season in terms of going to get the next

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Speaker 1: quarterback from the first and foremost or maybe going outside

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Speaker 1: the organization for a position or two, you know, if

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Speaker 1: need be so. Right now, Um, this according to spot track, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have sixty sixty seven million UH in cap space,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that's based on a salary cap, which

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Speaker 1: I guess is this assumes a hundred ninety two point

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Speaker 1: five million dollar salary cap in it's gonna be more

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Speaker 1: than that. I mean, we don't know what's going to

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Speaker 1: be in the stands, but the next Penn game tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night's yeah, that's just basically doing what they typically do

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Speaker 1: and bumping it up ten million dollars. It's gonna be high.

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Speaker 1: So sixty seven million, that's the second most amount of

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Speaker 1: money going into next year, which is remarkable, Like that

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Speaker 1: never happens. They're always second least, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: We've never seen that before. The only team with more

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Speaker 1: cap space than them is the Colts. But the Colts

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Speaker 1: only have thirty seven players under contract, so those seven

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Speaker 1: players make up for that. The Colts have sixty nine

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Speaker 1: point two million. The Steelers are sixty seven point four

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Speaker 1: Steelers have the most cap space. Well, I was going

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Speaker 1: to kind of counter that. I mean, they obviously the

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Speaker 1: Colts don't have as many guys under contract, but I

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Speaker 1: think the Colts have a big lump still this year

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Speaker 1: that will roll over because they haven't spent much. And

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Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, so there are some of those things.

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Speaker 1: The factor in fact, if you look at the cap

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Speaker 1: space from right now, current current cap space, actually Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: has thirty nine point four million envers at thirty six

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Speaker 1: point three, the culture two point nine. So they'll probably

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Speaker 1: roll over something like you know what I mean? Um?

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Speaker 1: Or do they extend wins? Right, They're gonna make that.

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Speaker 1: And then they get you know, the Quent Nelson's contracts

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Speaker 1: coming up. They got some, they get some big ones.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be expensive. Um. So if you look at

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Speaker 1: this from a cap stand, they got forty four players

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Speaker 1: on a contract, They got sixty seven million dollars in

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Speaker 1: cap space. The number three teams the Bengals at fifty

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Speaker 1: seven point five. That was a huge jump there actually

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Speaker 1: ten ten million dollars. Then you look at the Jets

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Speaker 1: are at fifty two, almost fifty three, Miami's at forty

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Speaker 1: eight with a lot of youth and not not guys

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Speaker 1: they have to pay soon. On the other side of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum, you look at the teams who were over

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Speaker 1: the cap a hundred ninety two and a half million.

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Speaker 1: Remember before we do, you have them listed second. I

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Speaker 1: bet with roll over their third will definitely be in

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Speaker 1: the top five, but probably about eighty millions spend because

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Speaker 1: the cap is very low. In that projection, that's a

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Speaker 1: ton and they don't have to give it to any

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Speaker 1: none of us going to bed, right, you know, No

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Speaker 1: more of it's going to bed, you know. So the

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Speaker 1: Packers right now thirty nine point six million dollars over

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Speaker 1: Dallas has fifty seven players signed for next year, but

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Speaker 1: they're thirty two point eight million dollars over that cap.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have fifty players signed their twenty four million

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Speaker 1: don't have anybody, right, they don't have Rogers and Dak

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Speaker 1: and Zeke get you know, right. The Rams have fifty

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Speaker 1: eight players, they're at eighteen points six million over that cap,

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Speaker 1: and this is how they operate. But the Texans, wow,

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Speaker 1: they are such a disaster. They've got forty two players

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Speaker 1: signed for next year. There's still twelve million dollars over

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Speaker 1: the cap. Wow. They signed like thirty guys in free

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Speaker 1: and that will open up a little. Here's here's where

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Speaker 1: the list gets interesting. I bet there's an north at

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Speaker 1: eight point six million dollars over the cap with fifty

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Speaker 1: eight players signed to the Cleveland Browns. Baker doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a new deal yet, Garrett does. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: else their money is gonna go, but I could see, like, well,

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Speaker 1: they gotta pay the corner board. Yeah, he's gonna be expensive.

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Speaker 1: I could see him being a franchise guy. They just

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Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars next year. My immediate thoughts are I

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Speaker 1: bet Landry and or O'Dell are they can't afford them?

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Speaker 1: Maybe both of them, at least one, maybe both, Because

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Speaker 1: if you're eight point six million over the cap, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need six million dollars to sign your rookie class.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need you know, you're gonna want to make

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Speaker 1: some moves. So yeah, I mean this this might be it.

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Speaker 1: Like people were talking about the Browns as well, the

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Speaker 1: long term contender. We'll see. It's different if it's Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: You know, Baker ain't Mahomes. I mean, he may be

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Speaker 1: a very good player. He maybe take a big step forward.

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Speaker 1: You know, he ain't cauna be Josh Allen. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be my Homes a lot closer to Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: and to those guys. You know, I wonder if it

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Speaker 1: first I thought of these things. But even little things

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Speaker 1: luxuries that they've been able to have, like Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 1: Do they have to trade Kareem Hunt to Seattle? You know,

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Speaker 1: they just to dump them. They gonna give Chubb a

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Speaker 1: the more I think about it, maybe Ward walks after

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Speaker 1: gonna get cut for sure. The Bills are seven points

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And maybe that's coming for Baker too, But

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Speaker 1: these are you know, if you've cap problems, you're not adding,

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Speaker 1: you're not you're not adding like you have been the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. No, you can't trade for DAGs

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Speaker 1: their draft showed us that, Like we're just gonna draft

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Speaker 1: are expensive and we know soon we're gonna be losing

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Speaker 1: more than we're bringing in every year. The Saints with

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Speaker 1: forty six players signed or four point seven million dollars over,

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Speaker 1: good for them, but yeah, better than that's without a

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Speaker 1: that's without a starting quarters, right, and the cap doesn't

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Speaker 1: account for them. The Falcons are three point eight million

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Speaker 1: over man Julio and Ryan are hard to move on from.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings are the last team that has a little

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Speaker 1: So the Falcons on down are all over the cap.

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Speaker 1: wasna say they've got a lot of six draft picks

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of those moves are right on, but

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Speaker 1: then you're eating dead caps, you know, eating. But depth's

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Speaker 1: team real quick. The Chiefs have thirty seven players under contract,

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Speaker 1: many the Steelers have again under contract? Where are the

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Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars in cap space. But again, Lamar's

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Speaker 1: be fine for the first year, give him a big bonus.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but those teams, I mean, who are some

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Speaker 1: like with an expensive quarterback because none of those guys

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Speaker 1: they're not moving on from him. And the Lamar experiment better.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Lamar believer, much more so than Baker. At

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Speaker 1: some point he needs to learn how to be a

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Speaker 1: better pocket passer. Yes, because the running is not gonna

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Speaker 1: they may not want him to run as much. To say,

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Speaker 1: I think he has he and they have to change

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Speaker 1: still find to scramble. We're not going to design any

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Speaker 1: more running place for you know. And we've talked about

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen to who's built much differently and runs less.

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Speaker 1: But I think I'm handed to Zack Moss a little

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Speaker 1: bit more here if I'm gonna pay him a huge contract.

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Speaker 1: And he's only had one good year. It was an

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Speaker 1: awesome year, and I'm a believer that he's that I

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Speaker 1: if he takes a percent step back? You know, not

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Speaker 1: much does this matter to you. I'm looking here at

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Speaker 1: the average age of those players. Mhm. The Saints are

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Speaker 1: like crazy. But I mentioned Minnesota has made twenty six

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Speaker 1: made like fifteen in the last three. You know, like

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Speaker 1: drafted very well. But they most had that Steelers of

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Speaker 1: guy in college. How about you stay? And I think

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Speaker 1: you get him on the cheaper year from now you know,

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Speaker 1: add him to that forty four list, give him four

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Speaker 1: million a year. I don't know, and don't draft a receiver.

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Speaker 1: It might work out quit pretty well. Big picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, and there's there's still a lot that has

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Speaker 1: to be uh sussed out with all of them. But

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Speaker 1: certainly James might leave the team receptions this year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, they're They're not in the situation that the

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Speaker 1: dire situation that many people said, Oh, they've they've seven

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Speaker 1: team players under contract for next year, they're gonna spend

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Speaker 1: all that money real quick. Well, they spent a while

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Speaker 1: on sixty seventy million of it, and they've got forty

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Speaker 1: four players under contract and still have one quarterback under contract.

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Speaker 1: A month ago they zero, Um, they have their franchise back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at that at that roster, what

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Speaker 1: it what it looks like. Here's that's that's Hayward, that's

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Speaker 1: to it, that's Fitzpatrick. That still counts Ben Roethlisberger. No,

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Speaker 1: you know he's but he's not going to be here.

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Speaker 1: But that counts Zack Banner, Devin Boys, Juju Smith, Schuster again,

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Speaker 1: same situation. He's Ben. They've got the option on those, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think will be on which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I did find out that if if he signed somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: even though you it's a it's got the option on

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Speaker 1: it like that, they still get a comp pic for it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we treated like a free agent. Yeah, if he's Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sutton Boswell, Derek what Mason, Rudolph Eric Ebron is a

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Speaker 1: they've I think they have an option on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he'll be back or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that one's up in the air. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people when they took Friar just assumed

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Speaker 1: Hebron's one year and done here. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's to slam dunk. I think you kind of see

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Speaker 1: how that goes. Lululu hag Warmly, Claypool, Johnson's Highsmith Lane

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Speaker 1: was more than a one year deal. Yeah, good good,

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Speaker 1: Anthony McFarland, Kevin Dotson, Zach Gentry, as they a bug,

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Speaker 1: Ulyssie s Gilbert, Carlos Davis, I Sai Louder all the rookies.

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Speaker 1: So you've still got a couple of those. I think

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Speaker 1: this needs to be mentioned, but it's true for every team.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, the Vikings have drafted twenty six players

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Speaker 1: in the last two round two years. Well, some of

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Speaker 1: those guys aren't gonna make the team, you know this year, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of those guys aren't gonna be good enough.

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Speaker 1: Gentry might not be good enough. The seventh round picks

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Speaker 1: from the last two years might not be good enough.

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Speaker 1: But once upon her, which is a different it's somewhat

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Speaker 1: of an advantage of other teams that you probably are

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Speaker 1: going to have a pun her for four years on

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Speaker 1: the seventh round contract, you know, and Niken Still they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll get t J. Water under contract, you know, they'll

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Speaker 1: get they'll get some of these guys that are that aren't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who the other priorities are at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I would think a lot of that's probably done. It's

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Speaker 1: not like last year we looked like, well, I they

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Speaker 1: could get Matt Filer done, maybe that would be something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who those guys are. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could look at like chooks a core for potentially,

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Speaker 1: but what's different from other years. If you have to

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Speaker 1: you can go get a tackle. Yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: bad business. I don't think they're ever gonna be doing that.

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Speaker 1: Or you can trade for a guy. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could trade for the next Doorlando Brown where we could

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Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Route and sign seven of them and

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Speaker 1: see what sticks. No, I mean just to have the

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Speaker 1: fact that they have so much cap space obviously factors

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Speaker 1: in for a quarterback. But one of these days we

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Speaker 1: need to figure out who could be the Steelers quarterback

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Speaker 1: next year. Like that should be a fun conversation, and

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Speaker 1: we have all offseason. I don't even know that we would.

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Speaker 1: We could throw out ten names, and I still don't

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Speaker 1: know would be if we'd be right. So I think

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Speaker 1: we can name twenty guys, Daniel Jones and to uh,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson and will soon everyone that's

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Speaker 1: in coming out in the draft this year, Mason Rudolph,

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Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins, you know, like there's a lot of scenarios,

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Speaker 1: Derek carr Lock, you know people. I don't know. If

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Speaker 1: if I were I don't know, if I went to

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Speaker 1: Vegas and they had odds on who's the Steelers quarterback

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Speaker 1: next year, I have no clue. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess Mason Rudolph would have the best odds. I

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Speaker 1: guess just based on the fact that he's here. He's

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Speaker 1: under contract, you know, he's the only one under but

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Speaker 1: outside of the chance he plays us here and it

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Speaker 1: does well. Um, But my point with that is names

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Speaker 1: aside any of those names I mentioned, including Rogers, Wilson, Watson,

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Speaker 1: they could do it now they couldn't. Couldn't have done it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing with Ben, Why would you

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Speaker 1: bring him back? That's a wasted year. They even have

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of other options they were gonna they

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Speaker 1: were gonna spend. He's gonna cost him twenty two million

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Speaker 1: dollars whether he's here or not. But it's here or not.

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Speaker 1: So they questioned him became is it worth the extra

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Speaker 1: four million dollars to bring him back? Yeah? And you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get Rogers for four or live in

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Speaker 1: Dalton even or somebody like that. I mean, so next

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Speaker 1: year you can if you want, if you fall in

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Speaker 1: love with the guy, you can get them. You can

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Speaker 1: get whoever you want. Maybe you can't get the first

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft, I mean, if you're picking twentieth

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Speaker 1: or or even twelve, I mean you might not be

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Speaker 1: able to get to one. But you can get the

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Speaker 1: three or four dudes that are gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: trade block, the highest price free agent. You know you'll

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Speaker 1: be able to get who you want. It's all on

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Speaker 1: the table. Everything's kind of opened up. Last year they couldn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that that wasn't the case. That's why it

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Speaker 1: was always funny whenever, you know, the national media talked

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Speaker 1: about him like they can't do it. They just couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it right Now, they've set themselves up to do

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Speaker 1: it very very well. Next year, those people will be

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Speaker 1: right right finally exactly. Doesn't mean they're gonna go spend

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Speaker 1: thirty million on the next Kirk Cousins on free agency,

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Speaker 1: but they can if they love somebody, right. But that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for this show. So for my partner

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, for Jacob Breck here on site keeping us

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Speaker 1: on the air, I'm Dale Lally. We thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation

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