Speaker 1: On the dol cast, The questions asked if movies have
Speaker 1: woen inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? The patriarchy zef in best
Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck Del cast. Most men
Speaker 1: think they're gold. This one just happens to be right,
Speaker 1: which is a quote from the movie Bedazzled and High.
Speaker 1: That's today's movies and hide. She did it? What's your name?
Speaker 1: Oh mommy, Yeah, no, I'm sticking with it. What's your name? Now?
Speaker 1: It's aggressive. But if I was like, I'm the devil,
Speaker 1: I was hoping you would say that, Okay, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: the devil. What does she say? Like? BL's above? But
Speaker 1: she says like five, she's she's basically singing Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 1: She Oh, it's so you're in for it today, because
Speaker 1: I have no fucking clue what's going on in this movie?
Speaker 1: There is This is a movie that I feel like
Speaker 1: I could have only come out in two thousand and
Speaker 1: I'm like, did it make sense then? Because I was really,
Speaker 1: there's so much I'm not sure. Wait wait, wait, what's
Speaker 1: your what's your name? Oh? Right, well, I'm Biel's abub
Speaker 1: No I'm my name's Jamie. My name is Caitlin. We're
Speaker 1: on a first name basis at this point. And this
Speaker 1: is the backtel Cast. This is where we talk about
Speaker 1: movies from an intersectional feminist lens, and we also talk
Speaker 1: about Bedazzled, and that's what we're doing today backtel Cast
Speaker 1: more like the Dazzle The why is this movie called Bedazzled?
Speaker 1: We were talking about this before we got on. Mike.
Speaker 1: I think it's because the devil Lucifer beazl bub Satan
Speaker 1: has the ability to bedazzle you with all you know,
Speaker 1: riches and respect and love and all that series of
Speaker 1: law sketches in the middle of a movie. Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 1: so I get. That's as close as I got. Anyways,
Speaker 1: this is our podcast. We use the Bechtel test as
Speaker 1: a jumping off point for discussion. That is a media
Speaker 1: metric invented by queer cartoonist Alice in Bechtel that requires that,
Speaker 1: for our purposes, two characters of a marginalized gender with
Speaker 1: names speak to each other about something other than Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 1: And that's how the test is going to work today,
Speaker 1: and we'll just we'll just see what happens. We will indeed,
Speaker 1: and I say, without much further ado, we introduce our guest,
Speaker 1: a fan favorite. First of all, she's also a comedian actor.
Speaker 1: You know her from ABC's The Con and she's the
Speaker 1: host of Scam Goddess podcast. It's Lacy Mosley. Hi, Oh,
Speaker 1: welcome Backack. I would like to be addressed that satan.
Speaker 1: It's got an accent mark, so it's satan. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: hitting the second syllable. It's funny that, y'all we're talking
Speaker 1: about the title of this movie. I personally, I guess
Speaker 1: because I was younger when it came out. I remember
Speaker 1: talking to my friends about it. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that movie bit, but there's what did
Speaker 1: I call it? Bebazild. I was like, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I was illiterate, but I'm like, yeah, I know that
Speaker 1: movie bevazled with with the British Javil. That's honestly enough
Speaker 1: information to know what the movie is. Perfect. But I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you brought us this movie because I had
Speaker 1: no idea this movie existing. Oh really, wow, Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: never heard of it, and I thought that I like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not a I'm not like a
Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser fan, but I find him interesting as a person,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And then I hate Brendon Frae.
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know what people are like,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, give it at Brandon, like ione have a
Speaker 1: poster in their wall. I don't know, he's like interesting
Speaker 1: because I just I don't know. Anytime there's someone who
Speaker 1: was like I look like a movie star, but I'm
Speaker 1: actually a character actor, I'm like, that's kind of interesting
Speaker 1: to me. But I had no idea this movie existed.
Speaker 1: What is this thing there? Uh? Lacy had what is
Speaker 1: your history with Bedazzled? So my history with Bebizild is
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it with my cousin as a kid,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're pretty religious, but not like I
Speaker 1: was like I want to church a lot. But like
Speaker 1: as soon as my mom had full control over how
Speaker 1: much we went to church, then we didn't go to
Speaker 1: church as much. You know, we had we hit the bobs.
Speaker 1: You know, we were there for the high holidays. We
Speaker 1: were there for you know, the cute moments, the Easters,
Speaker 1: the Christmas is, you know, whenever Jesus would come back,
Speaker 1: we would come back as well. Basically, but so I
Speaker 1: remember watching it kind of like we were like sneaking
Speaker 1: and watching it um much as we did most of
Speaker 1: the television that we watched. And I remember having fun
Speaker 1: watching it, much like when I was here from What
Speaker 1: Women Want, which was a dumpster fire, the one with
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson. I was like, I remember being like, bitch,
Speaker 1: this is good, like so so I'm I was ready
Speaker 1: to love it. The early two thousand's what a what
Speaker 1: a cursed It was really just a free for all
Speaker 1: you could do all sorts of ship that was our eighties.
Speaker 1: I mean like we were wearing skirts over leggings and
Speaker 1: do outfits and and so for some reason, a flower
Speaker 1: Indian hair anywhere, Like I wore flower in my hair
Speaker 1: to my senior prom, please and thank you. I wore
Speaker 1: one to the club there, poor decision. I remember like
Speaker 1: being I don't know, I guess like at being a
Speaker 1: kid around this time. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: have like a really strong memory of being on the
Speaker 1: school bus and having a T shirt that had like
Speaker 1: as sass see a little phrase on it that said
Speaker 1: like angel ten percent devil and thinking like there is
Speaker 1: never gonna be a shirt cooler than this shirt, Like
Speaker 1: I was so thoroughly convinced that early two thousand's child
Speaker 1: fashion was going to be as good as we ever got.
Speaker 1: It was limited to Girl Limited too. It was great
Speaker 1: Angel ten percent Devil. It fits perfectly with the Dazzles.
Speaker 1: Also feels like a little horny for kid apparel. I mean,
Speaker 1: like maybe the Devil's like a little devil. But I
Speaker 1: don't know did either of you wear weirdly horny kids shirts?
Speaker 1: Because I definitely I had my fifth grade school picture.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a T shirt that says too young for Ashton,
Speaker 1: which is like fucked up. But I snuck at to school.
Speaker 1: My mom didn't want me to wear it, but my
Speaker 1: aunt got it for me. My horny aunt was like,
Speaker 1: this is funny, and then I brought home the school
Speaker 1: pictures and now it's in your life forever. I love
Speaker 1: that your aunt is hilarious. But that shirt is who
Speaker 1: made that? Who was like put that on the screen.
Speaker 1: They were just selling that at like I don't even
Speaker 1: know where it would have been, like the Macy's clearance section.
Speaker 1: They just had that shirt for Like the shirt basically
Speaker 1: was like I'm horned for Ashton, but he can't be
Speaker 1: horned back. What did we say, it's like, thanks for
Speaker 1: letting us know ten year old. I hope Ashton made
Speaker 1: some coin off of it, because they just said and
Speaker 1: they say culture. So he probably out here and gets
Speaker 1: smeared and he didn't even get a coin. Oh my goodness, Caitlyn,
Speaker 1: what's your history of this movie? My history is literally
Speaker 1: I didn't know it existed before before we started getting
Speaker 1: ready for this episode. This came out when I was
Speaker 1: in high school or I was like just about to
Speaker 1: enter high school, so I was it was definitely on
Speaker 1: my radar, and I thought I had seen this movie,
Speaker 1: But when I went to watch it to prep for
Speaker 1: this episode, I'm like, none of this is familiar to me,
Speaker 1: except for one scene where he first wakes up as
Speaker 1: a Colombian drug lord and he's figuring out that he
Speaker 1: can speak Spanish, because this clip is featured as a
Speaker 1: clip in the board game Seen It if anyone remembers
Speaker 1: seen it, I do remember that. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: So that whole scene plays out and then you're supposed
Speaker 1: to like answer like trivia questions about that clip or
Speaker 1: whatever in the game anyway, so that I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen that part. Of it. I think I
Speaker 1: must have been on at a sleepover or something like that,
Speaker 1: because I have like bits and pieces of it were
Speaker 1: familiar to me, but I didn't. I don't think I
Speaker 1: had seen the whole thing. Um, we're too busy pillow fighting.
Speaker 1: I was too busy being angel Um. But yeah, so,
Speaker 1: uh should we just get into the recap and then
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to hear you recap this movie, Like
Speaker 1: what is going to happen me about you? While I
Speaker 1: was watching the movie, I was like, I just can't
Speaker 1: wait for Caitlin to do this. Thank you. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we meet Elliott. That is Brendan Fraser. He works at
Speaker 1: a tech company, and he's a loser. He's a dork.
Speaker 1: He's annoying, and nobody likes him. He's Brendan frasering out
Speaker 1: at the beginning, like such a simple yeah, like he
Speaker 1: this is Brendan Fraser. At the beginning of a lot
Speaker 1: of movies. He's like really loudly not fitting in. I
Speaker 1: just well, I kept thinking back to so we recorded
Speaker 1: an episode on The Mummy a few years ago. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: but our whole thing with that episode that he is
Speaker 1: that he was like Ferrell from a lot of the
Speaker 1: movie because he like surprised kisses Rachel Weiss, and he's
Speaker 1: just like being this horny Farrell, like we love a
Speaker 1: surprise kiss, we don't, and this movie he gets surprised
Speaker 1: kissed by the devil. So I just kept thinking about
Speaker 1: like Brendan Fraser being feral and it kept making me laugh. Anyways,
Speaker 1: So one evening he sees some people that he knows
Speaker 1: from work hanging out without him at a bar, and
Speaker 1: then the woman that he has a huge crush on
Speaker 1: who he also works with or like she works in
Speaker 1: the same building or something, Alison Gardner. That's Francis O'Connor.
Speaker 1: She comes in and his coworkers kind of like egg
Speaker 1: him on to go talk to her because he's all like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she and I are like good friends, and he goes
Speaker 1: over to talk to her. She does not remember Elliott
Speaker 1: at all, because it turns out they've only talked once
Speaker 1: briefly four years ago, and then she walks away, but
Speaker 1: just then Elliott comes upon a sexy woman in red.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does happen that quickly, Wait really quick on, Allison.
Speaker 1: I just I was waiting the whole movie to be like,
Speaker 1: what is like one thing, What is one thing about
Speaker 1: her other than she is She seems to reflexively, like
Speaker 1: many people who are being aggressively hit on, be nice
Speaker 1: to people instead of telling them to funk off. Like
Speaker 1: that's I think the one thing I know about her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't give us no information about her. She kind
Speaker 1: of looked like Mariah Carey, which I was like, maybe that's, like,
Speaker 1: you know, for the Times, like Maria. You know, Maria's
Speaker 1: always popping, she owns Christmas, move over Jesus, but she's
Speaker 1: long bodded Jesus off the manger. Um, it's just her
Speaker 1: and heels. But she. I was like, oh, maybe that
Speaker 1: was for the Times. But also I didn't like that,
Speaker 1: like it gave such in cell vibes of like this woman,
Speaker 1: we don't know nothing about her. It's like if you
Speaker 1: just saw a girl on Instagram and was like, that's
Speaker 1: my wife, and it's like you've never seen, never talked
Speaker 1: to her. We didn't even Instagram will get more information.
Speaker 1: At least she would have some cat she's we can
Speaker 1: look at like this is like the sun, Okay, she
Speaker 1: loves the beach all right, Like nothing, Yeah, we know
Speaker 1: nothing about her. It's so weird, yeah, like slow mo
Speaker 1: entrance shot, and then we never learned to the point
Speaker 1: where like when she would show up in all these
Speaker 1: like later like fantasy sequences, I would kind of sometimes
Speaker 1: be like, wait, who is that? Oh, I guess it's
Speaker 1: that lady Allison. Like I didn't recognize her because she
Speaker 1: was in those weeks. She was just in a bunch
Speaker 1: of wigs, and I was like, She's like, she was fun,
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I don't who is this woman? What
Speaker 1: is different about her? She's passionate about wigs, That's what
Speaker 1: we know. She loves a good wig, so right, he
Speaker 1: knows the way she likes to eat her bagels, and
Speaker 1: that's all he knows about her, and that's all we
Speaker 1: know about her. But anyway, so suddenly this very sexy
Speaker 1: woman in Red is in the movie and she's played
Speaker 1: by Elizabeth Hurley, and there's something very peculiar about her
Speaker 1: because she's really good at pool and she seems to
Speaker 1: be omniscient. And then she's like, by the way, Brendan Fraser,
Speaker 1: I have the power to give you everything you've ever
Speaker 1: dreamed of. And it's because I'm the devil t he
Speaker 1: She's really fun, Like when it's fucked up, she's still
Speaker 1: fun and she's like hot off of Austin Powers too.
Speaker 1: It's like peak Elizabeth Hurly because I'm like, what if
Speaker 1: I can't I can't tell you what Elizabeth Hurley did
Speaker 1: after this. She's very naughty. I also think that like
Speaker 1: having the Devil be British was just like just because
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine American woman like, yeah, I'm the Devil,
Speaker 1: so what's up? You want some wishes or not? It
Speaker 1: just doesn't sound as sexy is her. Also the fact
Speaker 1: that the Devil is a genie, Like, there's so many
Speaker 1: leaps of logic where I'm like, okay, I guess the
Speaker 1: Devil is a genie and she's obsessed with Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: because of a CD ROM computer program that she has
Speaker 1: I don't know right, Well, okay, So this movie is
Speaker 1: based on a nineteen sixty seven movie of the same
Speaker 1: name the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore were in and
Speaker 1: that who also co wrote that movie, which was also
Speaker 1: an adaptation from the Faust Legend, which admittedly I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about Faust. It definitely feels like something that's
Speaker 1: been adapted from other stuff because some things. I'm like, huh, right,
Speaker 1: what where did that come from? Like what triggered the devil? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't see him go like, oh, devil,
Speaker 1: I wish I could be with aliceon Like it was
Speaker 1: nothing that, there's nothing that triggered the devil. He goes
Speaker 1: He's like, Dear God, I would I would do anything
Speaker 1: to be So he basically praised to God saying like
Speaker 1: I would do anything to be with this woman, and
Speaker 1: rather than God responding, so I don't say. Maybe this
Speaker 1: movie is a commentary on like where's God when you
Speaker 1: need him? Because who SUPs at the end of the movie, right, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: God is in this movie. I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: about him. But um, so the devil is like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm the devil and he's like what. So she has
Speaker 1: to prove it to him because you know, Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: doesn't believe women or Devil's well she does like just
Speaker 1: kind of start accosting. I don't know. All their scenes
Speaker 1: together are like what is this dynamic? And then at
Speaker 1: the end where he says like You're the best friend
Speaker 1: I've ever had, Like that's the saddest thing I've ever
Speaker 1: heard in my life and she hates you, man, she
Speaker 1: hates you so much, she's just using you to get
Speaker 1: your soul. Such a weird story. So I needed the
Speaker 1: help of Wikipedia to understand what was happening at the beginning,
Speaker 1: because the whole like intro is like we see people
Speaker 1: being it's like a very early two thousands computer program
Speaker 1: where I will like point at the person and then
Speaker 1: say five adjectives like it's the next bus or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, But apparently that's the Devil computer program,
Speaker 1: which I didn't understand right. I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: get that until the second viewing. I was like, so
Speaker 1: the Devil has a cd ROM that tells her that
Speaker 1: Brendan Frasier is lonely. Like it's just weird, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because she's using it basically is like kind of like
Speaker 1: an online dating site, but rather than to like find dates,
Speaker 1: it's to like find candidates for souls she can snatch up.
Speaker 1: And some of that language was just so early two thousands.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like the ship you can
Speaker 1: get away with. Like they pointed out one woman and
Speaker 1: it was like tease and it's like, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's not that's the word made up bout me
Speaker 1: and who wanted to have sex with somebody who did
Speaker 1: not want to have sex with them. That's not a thing.
Speaker 1: So some of the points I was like problematic, Yes, definitely,
Speaker 1: this is a very two thousand software program, like it's
Speaker 1: not updated, it's running on fucking Windows. I like. But
Speaker 1: then when it points the Brandon Fraser, it's like doormatt, lonely, desperate, oblivious,
Speaker 1: eager to please. And I was like, wow, feeling called out.
Speaker 1: That's so brutal. And then a million he holds the
Speaker 1: door and a million people go inside. I was like, Brendy,
Speaker 1: you could have got in there. You stuck up in there.
Speaker 1: Brendan have some self esteem. But then he does have
Speaker 1: self esteem, but and it's really like aggressive at times,
Speaker 1: it's he's it is a weird character, like he's either
Speaker 1: I feel like he falls kind of into that nerd
Speaker 1: stereotype of like I'm going to force people to like me,
Speaker 1: which is like, no, that's also scary. That's not a
Speaker 1: good approach. I felt bad for that. In his working group.
Speaker 1: First of all, shoutout Orlando Jones, so funny. He's great,
Speaker 1: even though it's like he should have had more to
Speaker 1: do it, but like there, I was glad he was there.
Speaker 1: And then there was also like token guy's Gal that
Speaker 1: was with them, who was like, oh, like did you God?
Speaker 1: It was just like such a stock character. But I'm like, oop,
Speaker 1: I know who you are. You will never talk to
Speaker 1: an other woman in this film. But she'll be there
Speaker 1: with the guys. But not everywhere, because like, was she
Speaker 1: ever in any of the cutaways? No, she was only
Speaker 1: in like the non wish, like non fantasy. Why did
Speaker 1: she come to the fantasy? She was just as she
Speaker 1: was just as much of a bully to Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: as anyone else, and she wasn't invited. Rude, damn, I
Speaker 1: didn't even that didn't even occur to me. I was
Speaker 1: just like, wow, guys, Gal, they gave her like the
Speaker 1: guy's gal Daria jacket and everything. Yeah, but she's not
Speaker 1: allowed to participate in most of the movie. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 1: so um, he's like, I don't you You're not the devil.
Speaker 1: So she proves it to him by granting his wish
Speaker 1: of a big mac and a coke, But it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem that impressive because she just takes him to McDonald's
Speaker 1: and he has to pay for it, but then she
Speaker 1: takes him to her nightclub where everyone seems to know
Speaker 1: him and love him, and then she presents him with
Speaker 1: this contract where she will grant him seven wishes because
Speaker 1: she's also a genie in exchange for his soul, and
Speaker 1: because he really really wants to be with this woman, Allison,
Speaker 1: he signs the contract and then she's like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you this pager. If things aren't going the
Speaker 1: way you'd hope, just you know, dial six six six,
Speaker 1: and then we'll sort it out. Classic two thousand's Devil, Right,
Speaker 1: So what follows next is a bunch of sequences that
Speaker 1: I'm just going to kind of breeze through because I
Speaker 1: feel like we will break them down one by one
Speaker 1: in the discussion, so I don't want to spend too
Speaker 1: much time. And but basically, there's all these sequences where
Speaker 1: he makes a wish. Things seem great at first, but
Speaker 1: then he discovers like a catch and then he has
Speaker 1: to page the Devil and go back to normal until
Speaker 1: he makes his next wish. So the first one is
Speaker 1: that he wishes to be very rich and powerful and
Speaker 1: married to liston cut to he is now Colombian. Okay,
Speaker 1: he lives in a mansion with his wife Allison, and
Speaker 1: he's rich and everything, but the catches. Allison hates him
Speaker 1: and is cheating on him, and he got his wealth
Speaker 1: and power by running a drug cartel. This is where
Speaker 1: I was like, what huh there is? This movie quickly
Speaker 1: becomes just a series of really long sketches where Brendan
Speaker 1: Fraser is doing the absolute most a person can do,
Speaker 1: like just like a pile of wigs and a bunch
Speaker 1: of things happening, and it's all ten minutes long, and
Speaker 1: at the end you're like, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's talking to the devil again, and why did he
Speaker 1: have to have a proces that it knows to be
Speaker 1: a Colombian dread lorre? Wow? I mean that's not all
Speaker 1: they do. They put him in brown face, yeah they did,
Speaker 1: Oh god, and that look get into him. But and
Speaker 1: that's like God, they're all They're all like bad, but
Speaker 1: all in like very distinct way. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a weird sampler plate of like problematic. They find a
Speaker 1: new way to be extremely problematic with each new wish.
Speaker 1: So the next one is after he finds out that
Speaker 1: Alison wants a sensitive man. He wishes to be the
Speaker 1: world's most sensitive man and for Allison to be in
Speaker 1: love with him. So we cut to him being super sensitive.
Speaker 1: But the catch is that he's too sensitive and overbearing
Speaker 1: and she's turned off by it and it's disgusting. So
Speaker 1: his next wish is to be tall and strong and athletic.
Speaker 1: So the Devil turns him into a pro basketball player,
Speaker 1: and Allison is now a sports reporter and she's really
Speaker 1: horny for him, but the matches he has a very
Speaker 1: small penis, which she sees because he starts to address
Speaker 1: in front of her in the locker room as she's
Speaker 1: like trying to interview him as a sports reporter. But
Speaker 1: also she's like, yeah, like it's the the like gymnastics,
Speaker 1: the logic gymnastics. The story goes to be like, no,
Speaker 1: she is actually telling him that he has to strip
Speaker 1: in front of her in the locker room because that's
Speaker 1: what sports reporters do, and it's like it's oh boy,
Speaker 1: it's a mind fuck. But so she sees his small
Speaker 1: penis and now she is not interested in him. So
Speaker 1: then his next wish is to be really smart and
Speaker 1: educated and witty and sophisticated and for Alison to fall
Speaker 1: in love with him, and that he has a big
Speaker 1: penis so cut to him being a renowned writer who's
Speaker 1: very charming and cool and everyone likes him. And then
Speaker 1: he's Allison at some event and they hit it off.
Speaker 1: But the catch here is that when they go back
Speaker 1: to his place, it turns out that Elliott is gay
Speaker 1: and has like a male partner and is not actually
Speaker 1: interested in Allison. More gymnastics lay that one. Uh So,
Speaker 1: the next wish is he wants to do something good
Speaker 1: for mankind and to create a better world and do
Speaker 1: something important. So he wishes to be the president of
Speaker 1: the United States. So the devil makes him President Lincoln
Speaker 1: right before he's about to be assassinated. Ah, he comes
Speaker 1: out of that wish, and now he only has one
Speaker 1: wish left because the devil is counting the big mac
Speaker 1: and coke as one of his wishes, and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Devil, the deal is off. And he
Speaker 1: goes to a church to talk to God. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but there he gets arrested and in jail he meets God.
Speaker 1: A black man in jail, right, he's just like talking
Speaker 1: to Brendan Fraser about like his soul and his life
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I've got we're one of us,
Speaker 1: and you're just like interesting ta. I know. The only
Speaker 1: thing more cliche could have been him on a bus.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh. So then he gets out of jail and
Speaker 1: he goes to the Devil's Club and he's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want my last wish, but the
Speaker 1: devil freaks out and sends him to Hell or something.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and then the hell has terrible special
Speaker 1: effects and so brutal that when Elizabeth Hurley gets gigantic
Speaker 1: but she still has the Austin Powers hair and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you to Hell forever. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need a drink anything, yes, So then she like
Speaker 1: basically forces him to make a wish, so he his
Speaker 1: last wish is he wishes that Allison have a happy life.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly he and the devil are like in
Speaker 1: a courthouse and she explains that the contract that he
Speaker 1: signed states that if a person commits a selfless act
Speaker 1: of redemption like wishing for someone else's happiness, it avoids
Speaker 1: the contract, which means the deal is off and he
Speaker 1: gets to keep his soul so Elliott returns to his
Speaker 1: normal life. He asks Allison out, which is just what
Speaker 1: he should have done at the beginning of the movie, right,
Speaker 1: But oh no, Allison seeing someone. But it's okay because
Speaker 1: he goes home and his new neighbor is a lady
Speaker 1: who looks exactly like Allison, except she's so quirky that
Speaker 1: it's a miracle she's alive, Like, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's like if Zoe Deschanel in two thousand six were
Speaker 1: at like a forty I was like she was just like,
Speaker 1: my name is Nicole, but you can call me Nicky.
Speaker 1: But and then he's like, wow, I'm in love with Hell.
Speaker 1: She trips and she drops on her papers. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like Hillary doves that like all of that in one
Speaker 1: character that we meet for forty five seconds, and we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, wow, I love this character. I'm
Speaker 1: like this men wrote this character. And that's just a fact.
Speaker 1: It just suggests that, like, it doesn't matter what a
Speaker 1: woman's personality is, as long as she looks exactly like
Speaker 1: that woman, Brendan Fraser will be in love with her.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of men who were like that.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, I know it was like, it's really
Speaker 1: like I don't know that well that like this movie
Speaker 1: really rewards Brendan Fraser's character for like not being violently
Speaker 1: angry that he's rejected by Allison, and then they're like, alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: he could be lonely for like ten more minutes, and
Speaker 1: then we have to give him a girlfriend because he's
Speaker 1: earned it. Just just like that whole like nerd narrative
Speaker 1: that I don't know I feel. I'm like, that's why
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos exists, probably as like the full narrative. O gosh. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so he falls in love with new Allison instead, and
Speaker 1: then there's a shot of the Devil playing chess in
Speaker 1: the park with God God. The movie ends. So let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come right back to discuss. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back, Lacy, would you like to start anywhere in particular?
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so things, I'm just these are gonna
Speaker 1: be some random things and then we can get into
Speaker 1: the things things. So the Devil's Club was called dev eight,
Speaker 1: and it was like DV Yeah, I was watching when
Speaker 1: they went in the club, like the screens because you know,
Speaker 1: they had people in the pool people dance, and then
Speaker 1: they had these screens of like, you know, like devil
Speaker 1: ship and it was all just brown or black or
Speaker 1: ethic people dancing. Wait a minute, yeah, they were like,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no reason he should have all this rhythm.
Speaker 1: It must be the devil. I'm like, why is this
Speaker 1: in the back. It wasn't no white people like doing
Speaker 1: the child or where the goddamn fox trot? None of that.
Speaker 1: Just just black people and brown people, indigenous people dance.
Speaker 1: And I was like, curious, Yeah, what are the random details?
Speaker 1: Oh him the whole like him aggressively trying to be
Speaker 1: friends with all these people who hate him. There was
Speaker 1: a fun moment where he walks up to a guy
Speaker 1: who was like, I don't know if offices have these anymore,
Speaker 1: but he was at a coffee machine and when the
Speaker 1: guy sees Brendon friends are walking up, he starts stabbing
Speaker 1: the coffee machine real hard, like the coffee real pants.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know he's coming, and everyone hates
Speaker 1: this man this much at the office, like god damn,
Speaker 1: I just like I want to know why not to
Speaker 1: be like his coworkers are probably right, but like, did
Speaker 1: they just hate him? For no reason, Like I would
Speaker 1: like to know why they dislike him so much, because
Speaker 1: maybe they have an amazing reason of why they don't
Speaker 1: want to hang out with him. He's just one thing
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. He did one thing that I
Speaker 1: would be like, I hate you. Um the girl came
Speaker 1: in and I think she was late, and he was like,
Speaker 1: oh girl, you're late, Like he was like yelling in
Speaker 1: if you I'm constantly seven minutes late everywhere I go.
Speaker 1: I dare somebody to comment on it. The seven is
Speaker 1: the perfect amount. No one can get mad about seven
Speaker 1: minutes eight, yes, ten, angry five seven sweet spot. I
Speaker 1: was reading that as he was imitating their boss, because
Speaker 1: later on their boss says the same thing to him,
Speaker 1: so I think he was like trying to be like,
Speaker 1: ha ha, look how funny I am. I'm like saying
Speaker 1: to you what our boss says to us, look at
Speaker 1: us relating, and then she just flips him off. Something
Speaker 1: else he did that was also like fuck you dude?
Speaker 1: Is he I don't know his colleagues names. I did
Speaker 1: not bother to write them down, and think the movie
Speaker 1: really tells you. We got the black guy, we got
Speaker 1: the skinny guy, we got the girl who only hangs
Speaker 1: out with guys because girls are too much drama, but
Speaker 1: one of um like he's the one who Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: is like, let's go to the brewery and check out
Speaker 1: the ladies, and the guys like, dude, I'm married, and
Speaker 1: then Brendon Fraser is like, oh, yeah, I see, you're
Speaker 1: like taking a train to Whipville or whatever he says.
Speaker 1: He's basically like, you're whipped. And then he and the
Speaker 1: guys like you're not funny, please leave me alone, which
Speaker 1: is like fair enough there. I don't know. It's so
Speaker 1: weird because it's like, I don't know. Brendan Fraser plays
Speaker 1: everything so broadly that you're kind of like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: get why people don't like him, but also he's like
Speaker 1: not specific enough for you to feel like, oh I
Speaker 1: can relate to somebody being this annoying. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was hard to root for him. It
Speaker 1: was also like, I guess I can root against you.
Speaker 1: I don't, and I had no feel I was like
Speaker 1: ambivalent the whole time about what he was doing. It
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it really is a movie that you're
Speaker 1: kind of on no one's side and you're just kind
Speaker 1: of hanging out to see what what the next is.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really rooting for anybody. I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: no one. I was kind of rooting for the devil.
Speaker 1: But that's just me also representation, like Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to have a woman be the devil, but of course
Speaker 1: God is a man, and it's like God is definitely
Speaker 1: not a man, like men have done so much horrible
Speaker 1: ship on this goddamn player, there's no way in helle.
Speaker 1: So that kind of gave me that thing of like,
Speaker 1: look at the devil being a temptuous being a woman.
Speaker 1: The reason that men fall is because of hot women. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I agree. I think that the
Speaker 1: So this is a Harold Ramas movie. It's written by
Speaker 1: three old white guys all at once, and I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would never guess by how the characters are. But
Speaker 1: it's like I think that they thought they were doing
Speaker 1: something by having the devil be a woman. I think
Speaker 1: that they thought they were doing something like subversive and
Speaker 1: interesting when they were kind of just like not doing that,
Speaker 1: like and it's it's not even anything against Elizabeth Hurley.
Speaker 1: I think for like the part that she's given, she
Speaker 1: does great. Yeah, like she's fun to watch. She plays
Speaker 1: parts like these partically well, I also like kind of unrelated,
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize how Elizabeth Hurley first became famous,
Speaker 1: which is also kind of like this weird, kind of
Speaker 1: misogynist story of she was. She was Hugh Grant's girlfriend
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, and she wore a dress like
Speaker 1: I guess I really like, I don't know, it was
Speaker 1: made out to be like a scandalous dress to the
Speaker 1: premiere of four Weddings in a funeral, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden she was like famous. She like wore
Speaker 1: addressed one time and they were like, oh, Hugh Grant's girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on with this like this woman,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she was kind of
Speaker 1: like skyrocketed to fame. It was weird, like maybe I
Speaker 1: need a day to celebrity. I'm working too hard. I
Speaker 1: don't get out there. I put my I put my
Speaker 1: titties out. These days, everybody's so naked all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't even I think I would have to wear
Speaker 1: like a full cocoon suit this something to get myself
Speaker 1: seen because Cardi b out here just putting tape on
Speaker 1: and was like, so that's not shocking anymore. Damn, what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do? I don't know, but this is this
Speaker 1: is it's weird. It's like she she had been like
Speaker 1: an actor before, like she had been acting and she
Speaker 1: like been on TV, she's been in movies, but like,
Speaker 1: how didn't nothing had really happened until people started being
Speaker 1: like look at her body, look at Hugh Grant's girlfriend's body,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she was extremely famous,
Speaker 1: which I was like, that doesn't she It's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a little defend And that was back
Speaker 1: in the day when that worked. That doesn't work anymore
Speaker 1: because um I remember even Mendez got famous kind of
Speaker 1: like that. She was in Will Smith's video and then
Speaker 1: they were like, who is that beautiful that Tina woman?
Speaker 1: And then you even when they started getting her some jobs.
Speaker 1: So man, I missed those days. No wrong misogyny. It
Speaker 1: really worked out for some people, it did. It's like,
Speaker 1: no hate to Elizabeth Hurley. I think she plays the
Speaker 1: part like really funny and yeah, like she's but it's
Speaker 1: like it is written to be like, wow, what if
Speaker 1: the what if the devil wanted to have sex? With you,
Speaker 1: you regular guy, and it's like is that likely? Is
Speaker 1: that about? Why did she kiss him like unsolicited like that?
Speaker 1: Because she didn't want to funk him. So I was like,
Speaker 1: what is the point in why do you come? I
Speaker 1: guess it was it comes back to the whole be
Speaker 1: dazzling thing that was her way of like because she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like she's a temptress, she's a succubust. She's trying
Speaker 1: to lure him in. I think, yeah, the succubist thing
Speaker 1: is like really at play there too, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: You're just like I don't I like that it's Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Hurley and yet it is still pretty sexy, like and
Speaker 1: then the way that she X two and like the
Speaker 1: way that they write her dialogue, You're like, oh, she doesn't.
Speaker 1: I wish she didn't have to say that. She didn't
Speaker 1: say that awful. That reminds me of like if you
Speaker 1: ever watched the end of the Bring It On series.
Speaker 1: So there's like one of the you know, a movie
Speaker 1: is like famous and then like they make some more
Speaker 1: and they come like bees. There's one where there's like
Speaker 1: a black girl on the scene where I was fully like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, did she read this group that they
Speaker 1: changed it before. The white girl was like, you don't
Speaker 1: know her, she's very ghetto, she does drive bys and stuff,
Speaker 1: or black girl in this scene. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that same way about Elizabeth Hurley and this. But I
Speaker 1: also want to say they missed a chance to actually
Speaker 1: pass the Bechdel test when she was making out with
Speaker 1: Brandon on the table and it was these two ladies
Speaker 1: sitting at the table. If they had just been like, damn,
Speaker 1: what's this lady doing? I don't know this. I guess
Speaker 1: you want another vocatinic something, they were just like scraw,
Speaker 1: I'm get out of here. Other women don't talk. Only
Speaker 1: one woman in a scene at a time. That is
Speaker 1: really the rule of the movie. Like it's really bleak.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's we don't have enough tampons for
Speaker 1: two women in the scene at a time, only one.
Speaker 1: And also like she I don't yeah like she I
Speaker 1: get like she's also the devil. So it's not like
Speaker 1: I'm like expecting her to be like very respectful to
Speaker 1: other women, like she's the devil. I get it. But
Speaker 1: the things that they like decide to be like oh,
Speaker 1: like let's go, let's look at Alison while she's naked.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, Let's do that. It's like the setups
Speaker 1: are really like, let's exploit the only other women in
Speaker 1: the woman in the movie who we don't know a
Speaker 1: single thing that anything about. And I think they were like,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. Because the devil, who is a woman,
Speaker 1: told him to go peek at hood in the shower.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to do it. He said no because
Speaker 1: he respect bitches. But she said get in there and
Speaker 1: look at them tower. Yeah, and he's like, well, another
Speaker 1: woman said it was okay, so it must be alright.
Speaker 1: Wait while we're there the peeping tom scene. Um, when
Speaker 1: they read her diary, I really wanted to throw up
Speaker 1: the most generic I have a journal I write and
Speaker 1: it's never like dear diary. I just want a mayor
Speaker 1: who sell cissy to you, you know, like I was
Speaker 1: talking about me yesterday and the day before because I
Speaker 1: just love me, and it's all I think about. Like
Speaker 1: that's another scene where you're like, oh, three o white guys,
Speaker 1: got it, got it, got it? Because this Alison is
Speaker 1: supposed to be like in her thirties, like and she's
Speaker 1: just like dear, Like that's that's the fictional diary of
Speaker 1: an eleven year old so fucking weird, like as told
Speaker 1: by Ginger, Like it's oh my gosh, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to shout out the devil's license plate and bad one,
Speaker 1: pretty good, very good good. Yeah. Um, should we just
Speaker 1: go through each of these wishes and unpack them, because
Speaker 1: there's some of them are like whatever, but like there's
Speaker 1: quite a few that there's a lot to unpack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ones that are bad or bad. Buckle up, everyone,
Speaker 1: We're unpacking the wishes. Okay, So obviously the first the
Speaker 1: big Mac and Coke, nothing really to say. They're fun
Speaker 1: products except for McDonald's product place. Aggressive product placement though
Speaker 1: not only was it. They walked in McDonald's, they made
Speaker 1: the full order, they told us the prize. Then they
Speaker 1: walked out of McDonald's and he had the McDonald's bag
Speaker 1: and he opened the bag up and he said, I
Speaker 1: didn't even get no French friends bath. I'm loving it though,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, he literally is like it's delicious. It's
Speaker 1: so I never think product placement isn't so funny because
Speaker 1: it's like, do you really think I didn't know like that?
Speaker 1: And and also I was like damn McDonald's cost like
Speaker 1: three fifty for a whole meal twenty years ago. Wild
Speaker 1: it was aggressive though. They were like, look, McDonald's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we don't want just to mention. We want a whole series.
Speaker 1: We want George of the Jungle to say that his
Speaker 1: Big Mac is the best meal he's ever had. Right,
Speaker 1: it's great. And I guess that happens in different I
Speaker 1: like read through the Wikipedia page of the original one,
Speaker 1: and it seems like generally like I mean, I might
Speaker 1: watch it and then take this back, but it seems
Speaker 1: like the setups are less problematic than the nineties one. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's the same deal. They like, go to get
Speaker 1: some food or but it's he's at a he said it,
Speaker 1: he wants a raspberry or something. It's all very British.
Speaker 1: Who knows god? Um Okay, so that's the first technically
Speaker 1: the first wish. The second one is him wanting to
Speaker 1: be rich and powerful and to be married to Allison.
Speaker 1: We already touched on this in the recap, But the
Speaker 1: devil's like situation that she puts him in is that
Speaker 1: he is a Colombian drug lord, which means that they
Speaker 1: put Brendan Fraser in brown face. They put a prosthetic
Speaker 1: nose on him, they visibly darken his skin, they darken
Speaker 1: his hair. Uh, he's got brown eye contacts in and
Speaker 1: he is fully in brown face because you know, there
Speaker 1: aren't white Colombians. That's not a thing. They're not white Colombians.
Speaker 1: Like there are, y'all, there are. It's it's so fucking
Speaker 1: frustrating because it's like there are, because I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a number of things that are going on, the
Speaker 1: most egregious of which are the prosthetic in the brown face,
Speaker 1: but also Brandon Freyerser's performance is like really pretty broadly
Speaker 1: offensive in the way that he's planning it to, Like
Speaker 1: there's just nothing about this setup that is not fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like and it's and I'm sure in his eyes because
Speaker 1: he's a character actor, you know how those types are.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they made me over, they put up
Speaker 1: nose on my face and I had to lay in
Speaker 1: a tanning thing for hours as they painted my row skin.
Speaker 1: And you know he's thinking, he's like really getting into
Speaker 1: and it's like, like what you're talking about, right? And
Speaker 1: like also the Allison Fantasy character is also playing a
Speaker 1: Colombian woman and it it didn't seem like they altered
Speaker 1: her appearance much beyond like putting her in a dark
Speaker 1: haired wig, but her performance is also very over the
Speaker 1: top and very rooted in a lot of stereotypes of
Speaker 1: Latin X women. It's also like it, I mean, it
Speaker 1: goes without saying I would be truly shocked if any
Speaker 1: Colombian person was spoken to about this scene like or
Speaker 1: they didn't anyway like they which I feel like almost
Speaker 1: ties into like by the nineties. The kind of like
Speaker 1: the Harold Ramas kind of sense of humor is like
Speaker 1: it's showing the war like it's it looks dated even
Speaker 1: in two thousand that they're doing this ship and that
Speaker 1: it's like kind of especially with comedy directors, I feel
Speaker 1: like once you reach a certain point in your career,
Speaker 1: if it's obvious, if you're not like listening to the
Speaker 1: fact that times are changing, because it was just so like,
Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong with him being a Colombian drug lord
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with him speaking Spanish in the
Speaker 1: scenes and even having the wig, because that's like how
Speaker 1: you know, the stereotype is of like what people wear
Speaker 1: their hair like they're it's just like because there are
Speaker 1: white people in Colombia. There's black people in Colombia, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's not like he couldn't
Speaker 1: be white Brendan Frasier. That's why it was weird. They
Speaker 1: painted him even fake. Now that was unnecessary. He could
Speaker 1: have just been Colombian and that would we would have
Speaker 1: been like, that's weird, Like there are white Colombians. So
Speaker 1: I was just like, Lord Jesus, yes, it is so
Speaker 1: like they didn't need to do it. And yet, but
Speaker 1: Orlando Jones always makes me laugh. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how I remember this scene from I was probably eight
Speaker 1: the first time I saw this was um Orlando Jones
Speaker 1: is behind him when they get to like the whole
Speaker 1: drug lord scenario where like things are going south with
Speaker 1: the Russians and the Orlando turns around at one point
Speaker 1: in his under his nose is just like all white
Speaker 1: from cocaine, but like so much cocaine that she would
Speaker 1: probably die if you snorted that much. But he turns
Speaker 1: around so casually, and like I could just tell that
Speaker 1: Orlando didn't have a lot to work with. He was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm be in this movie. Okay, I'm about to you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, like he was giving, he was giving
Speaker 1: back there and I loved it. Yeah, this seems because
Speaker 1: it was like it's clear that they're like parodying, like
Speaker 1: like it seems like they're almost parodying like a soap opera,
Speaker 1: like a hyper like intense I don't know, like are
Speaker 1: all those movies you know about there's so many movies
Speaker 1: about that Colombian drug lord and you know, so they
Speaker 1: were doing that. Yeah, because all of these like cutaway
Speaker 1: sketches are kind of like a parody or a reference
Speaker 1: to something else. They were like, can we do not
Speaker 1: another teen movie, but for other movies? But also it's
Speaker 1: bedazzled all right, and you won't know why it's called,
Speaker 1: but dazzled no matter how much time passes, it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: the brown face and the prosthetics, like fucking what. So
Speaker 1: yeah that uh, that's like that's our foray into these wishes.
Speaker 1: So it's like and then you're like, oh, we've got
Speaker 1: six more of these, let's see what happened. Oh yeah, um,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we'll get into
Speaker 1: the rest of them. And we're ac let's get into
Speaker 1: the second one. Yes, So this one is Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: wishing to be the most sensitive man in the world.
Speaker 1: And there's some lead up to this that we are
Speaker 1: we also touched on, but like there's some important discussion
Speaker 1: to be had here where. So in order to find
Speaker 1: out that Alison wants a sensitive man, he is complicit
Speaker 1: in stalking her, invading her privacy she was doing anyways, like,
Speaker 1: which that's the other thing is like, it's frustrating that
Speaker 1: the devil is like giving him permission to continue stalking
Speaker 1: her because we know at the beginning of the movie
Speaker 1: he already was. He's like, I know how she eats bagels,
Speaker 1: even though I never spoken her. I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you've been stalking her. It's not like you're a nice
Speaker 1: guy because you're like, should I stalk her now? It's
Speaker 1: like you've been doing that, right, And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: she can't see you, so it's fine. So it's fine
Speaker 1: if you peep at her in the shower and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you called me a desperate loser, so I might as
Speaker 1: well live up to that. Okay. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: success full of seeing her naked, but he definitely not
Speaker 1: for lack of trying. He definitely tries. So then we
Speaker 1: cut to the wish and he's super sensitive. Allison does
Speaker 1: not like how sensitive he is, and she ends up
Speaker 1: going off with this like tough, macho, oh jock guy
Speaker 1: who doesn't care about her. You know how women are
Speaker 1: if you care about them, they don't want that. Treat
Speaker 1: him like puzzies. I'm just like, God, the writers are
Speaker 1: telling on themselves so hard in this one. It's it's
Speaker 1: like it's their bitterness for women. That's just like jumping
Speaker 1: onto the page. It's like, women don't like when you
Speaker 1: when you respect them. They like when you come and
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, ho, bitch, get in my car, my van,
Speaker 1: my fan. It was a a fan. It was like,
Speaker 1: come drink beers in my band with my fort Freeze.
Speaker 1: It's not weird. She's like, I love that kind I
Speaker 1: love that for me, like that for me the whole
Speaker 1: Like yeah, this whole I guess, this whole sketch relies
Speaker 1: on the assumption that women hate when men are like
Speaker 1: emotionally vulnerable. He also kind of looks like jug Head
Speaker 1: from Riverdale in this seque. He's wearing like a little
Speaker 1: red wig. Yeah, I guess, like a person with red
Speaker 1: hair equals sensitive. I'm like, I love ginger, so the
Speaker 1: ginger community should really rise up and be angry about this.
Speaker 1: When is someone going to speak out about this scene
Speaker 1: at the Dazzle? Yeah, it's just like, oh she first
Speaker 1: of all. It especially in things like this, it really
Speaker 1: you really feel how little you know about Allison because
Speaker 1: you're like, is this how the real Alison feels? Like
Speaker 1: because her diary said the opposite, So like, why is
Speaker 1: this even happening that she's now acting the exact It's
Speaker 1: so weird. It's her awful, Like before the Columbian drug scene,
Speaker 1: she's like eating on him and like openly like rubbing
Speaker 1: her Spanish or English teacher's booty hole like in front
Speaker 1: of him. And then and then in this one, she's like,
Speaker 1: get away from me. I'm going to hang out with
Speaker 1: these creeps in their van. Like what he is this
Speaker 1: woman a nice lady? Is she is this just a
Speaker 1: dream scenario that's changing her person because it doesn't change
Speaker 1: his personality, but it changes her personality and everyone right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a way that like victimizes Brendan Fraser and makes
Speaker 1: him a victim of her behavior when it's like that's
Speaker 1: not even her. It's so weird, right, well, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about her, he's just sort of like
Speaker 1: projecting what he assumes she might be like into each
Speaker 1: of these fantasies. I guess, because yeah, she's so wildly
Speaker 1: inconsistent from like wish to wish. But then in her
Speaker 1: diary she says like the opposite right before you see
Speaker 1: this scene, so you're like, why why am I even
Speaker 1: watching this scene? I know that's not what she thinks.
Speaker 1: She thinks like she's an e loving year old girl
Speaker 1: writing in a unicorn diary a out like wanting to
Speaker 1: marry Daniel Radcliffe. Like that's right, because this this wish
Speaker 1: basically suggests that, like, women don't actually know what they want.
Speaker 1: She's thought she wanted a sensitive man, but as soon
Speaker 1: as she finds one, she doesn't, and she just wants
Speaker 1: to be with the same type of like aggro toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity dude that she's probably been with before. And then
Speaker 1: after they get out of that wish and Brendan and
Speaker 1: the Devil are talking, he's like, I'm starting to think
Speaker 1: that women don't really know what they want, and the
Speaker 1: Devil's like bingo, and it's like a movie for that.
Speaker 1: It's called What Women Want, where all the women in
Speaker 1: the movie know what they want yes and loudly tell
Speaker 1: mel Gibson, yeah, but I love that. They also tried
Speaker 1: to honor the mistake they made with her leaving him
Speaker 1: by being like, She's like, I love you, but you're
Speaker 1: too sensitive, And it's like, what, so you love him
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna be with him. I guess you
Speaker 1: love some people. It just nothing makes sense. It's also
Speaker 1: just like, granted, his emotional sensitivity is like turned up
Speaker 1: to an eleven, and he's being a lot in a
Speaker 1: way that would also annoy me away. But but even
Speaker 1: so the movie, it makes an emotionally sensitive man just
Speaker 1: seem like weird and pathetic and annoying and annoying. So
Speaker 1: it's like toxic masculinity of like, buck up, nobody wants
Speaker 1: to see you cry. Yeah, right, And it's like the
Speaker 1: less you care about this girl, the more likely she
Speaker 1: is to want to fuck you, because she says, I
Speaker 1: just want to be with a man who will ignore
Speaker 1: me and take me for granted, and who's only pretending
Speaker 1: to be interested in who I am and what I
Speaker 1: think so that he can get into my pants and
Speaker 1: the guy's like, yep, that's me and nobody wants that,
Speaker 1: Like you're those men are tricking women. Do you see
Speaker 1: how you said like she pretends that he pretends to
Speaker 1: be interested. No, woman, is that meta? That's just like
Speaker 1: he pretended to be interested in me. My puss is
Speaker 1: a wet now, Like what, they're being tricked, but they're
Speaker 1: not in on it. Don't be trying to say women
Speaker 1: are in on the trick. We're not in on it.
Speaker 1: There's so much Yeah, there's like so much weird logic
Speaker 1: going on. That's like if somebody robbed your house and
Speaker 1: they were like, but you knew he was leaving, saying
Speaker 1: that's like I rob you know. And then it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: do you want guys to act like Brendan Fraser's acting
Speaker 1: in this scene. You're like, no, I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's doing it, Like I have no idea. I think
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be like this caricature of like man emotions,
Speaker 1: but like no, it So there's gotta be somewhere between.
Speaker 1: Not a man who every time he sees the suset
Speaker 1: is like ugly crying. Like that's a lot just like
Speaker 1: a person that exists it's so so bizarre, just it's
Speaker 1: a fucking weird one. Uh yeah, so that's that's that one.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for Brendan Fraser as a pro basketball player.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, alright, why did they make him albino?
Speaker 1: Why does he have nappy? What is happening with his that?
Speaker 1: I could not really understand what they were going for.
Speaker 1: It was he supposed to be like still black face,
Speaker 1: but with albino face. Dennis Rodman confusion, like the black
Speaker 1: people saying that also there are good white basketball players.
Speaker 1: He couldn't been Dirk and a whiskey and just had
Speaker 1: like a lot of hand in face and been still
Speaker 1: very celantic. Why do you have to have afro? I
Speaker 1: was confused. Yeah, it's another thing that was like you
Speaker 1: didn't need to do like you so easily could have
Speaker 1: just not done something like we still known he was
Speaker 1: the basketball player. I guess they were trying to say,
Speaker 1: like he's a black basketball player because I guess they
Speaker 1: get all the women. I don't know what they were
Speaker 1: trying to say with that, all the basketball players get Chase.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the filmmakers were like, Okay, well, even
Speaker 1: though we did brown face, we can't do black face,
Speaker 1: but let's get as close as we can get to
Speaker 1: that without actually doing black face face. No one will know,
Speaker 1: like we you know, black people got a bottle? People
Speaker 1: in my family, wouldn't we know that we know what
Speaker 1: you're doing? And then I think they had to. Now
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize why was Albido faces because the
Speaker 1: whole dick joke was supposed to be like black eyes
Speaker 1: have big dicks, so you would automatically think because he's
Speaker 1: a huge basketball player, that he's going to just have
Speaker 1: like the song, which like it was such a big
Speaker 1: focus of a lot of these wishes, which I don't
Speaker 1: think that's such a man thing because I'm like they
Speaker 1: have like all women are like, oh yeah, we love
Speaker 1: a huge penis. That is the assumption that this movie
Speaker 1: is operating on. Um and Okay, so i have a
Speaker 1: whole thing about penis size. Ready, I'm about to say
Speaker 1: penis a thousand times Okay, okay, ready, okay. So in
Speaker 1: this scene, because Alison assumes that he has a big penis, uh,
Speaker 1: she's very interested in that and that alone because also
Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser as this character can barely string a sentence
Speaker 1: together and that's like part of the joke that he
Speaker 1: just like can't really form thoughts. So, but she's super
Speaker 1: interested in him because of this assumption that he because
Speaker 1: he's so tall, I guess he has that hair and
Speaker 1: he have hair black, that he that he must have
Speaker 1: a large penis. And then as soon as she discovers
Speaker 1: that he does not, that he see aims to have
Speaker 1: what again, we don't see it on screen, but it
Speaker 1: is heavily implied that it is a very small penis.
Speaker 1: Um she becomes disinterested and runs away. So many So
Speaker 1: here we go shaming of penis size, particularly how we
Speaker 1: as a society shame small penises. This is something that
Speaker 1: happens a lot today. Still, it happens in a lot
Speaker 1: of circle like it just it seems to be something
Speaker 1: that is still very just socially acceptable to do. And
Speaker 1: I feel like not and it's and and it's not
Speaker 1: enough people talk about why shaming small penises or micro
Speaker 1: penises is very harmful and wrong and not feminist. So
Speaker 1: I just want to go through a few things here
Speaker 1: where Obviously, first of all, it's wrong to just simply
Speaker 1: body shame someone for something that they have no control over. Um,
Speaker 1: So that's like the core of it. But there's more
Speaker 1: to it than that, which so shaming small penis is
Speaker 1: in order to attack a person's manhood, which is like
Speaker 1: usually why anyone does. That means that we use a
Speaker 1: society value large penises, and because we we as a society,
Speaker 1: associate penis size to be connected with a person's manliness
Speaker 1: and masculinity, meaning like the bigger the penis, the more
Speaker 1: masculine a person must be. And because characteristics like aggressiveness
Speaker 1: are also associated with masculinity, it basically means that by
Speaker 1: shaming small penises, we are inadvertently condoning and valuing toxic
Speaker 1: standards of masculinity like aggression. So like our obsession with
Speaker 1: large penises, and but and we I mean, like society
Speaker 1: is basically akin to we also love toxic masculinity. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that there's like that goes
Speaker 1: with like there's a number of body parts you can
Speaker 1: apply that to. I mean, you can apply that to
Speaker 1: like boobs as well, and like like valuing people on
Speaker 1: the size of their boobs are like you know, deciding
Speaker 1: how immediately interested someone would be based on your body
Speaker 1: or like your boobs, your butt, like there's so many
Speaker 1: physical characteristics that we have like associated with like desirability,
Speaker 1: that is like, I mean, demonstrably untrue for most people.
Speaker 1: And also I kind of it opened my eyes to
Speaker 1: this a little bit more when I started to think
Speaker 1: about the transmit in my life and they were like,
Speaker 1: when you talk about people's penis sizes, it's like it's
Speaker 1: really transphobic. And I was like, oh, I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that. So, like, there's just so many angles
Speaker 1: to this. And also I do want to make one
Speaker 1: clarification about the albumism I was talking about. Albumism can
Speaker 1: occur across different races. I was specifically saying that this
Speaker 1: albinism that they were doing was a black man because
Speaker 1: if you look at the texture of his hair, it
Speaker 1: is very typical of that of an African American, Like
Speaker 1: they made they made him like have deep coils like
Speaker 1: for sea hair. And that's why I was like, is
Speaker 1: this an Albao black person? So I just wanted to
Speaker 1: clarify that because it's not like albumism just belongs to
Speaker 1: black people. But I was like, this is I know
Speaker 1: what's happening here. I honestly didn't pick up on that
Speaker 1: the first time. I saw it, and it was until
Speaker 1: the second time that I'm like, no, fucking way, his
Speaker 1: hair like that. Yeah, that's how a lot of people
Speaker 1: with albumism who are black their hair looks. So I
Speaker 1: was like, and then like the association with the big penis,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's because he's tall and stuff. It's also
Speaker 1: because they tried to make you think like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: black but not in black face. So and then on
Speaker 1: top of that, I mean, you have like so many
Speaker 1: gendered stereotypes going on with Allison in this scene where
Speaker 1: it's like there's an assumption that she could not possibly
Speaker 1: want to be a sports reporter because she likes sports.
Speaker 1: It has to be because she's trying to fux somebody, right,
Speaker 1: And then on top of like that, she's like she
Speaker 1: is sexually harassing him in the locker room, like she's
Speaker 1: absolutely harassing him a pressuring him to get naked in
Speaker 1: front of her, and just like there's just so like
Speaker 1: it's just it's just zeros across the board. I feel
Speaker 1: like that happened because they were like, look, we can't
Speaker 1: do another scene where she sees the penis as small.
Speaker 1: We gotta get all out at the at this uh,
Speaker 1: at this venue, we got one location, and so they're like,
Speaker 1: we gotta she's got to see the penis somehow here.
Speaker 1: So they decided to make her like so aggressively inappropriately
Speaker 1: horny that she's like basically like, show me your dick
Speaker 1: right now. It makes no sense, um, but yeah, like
Speaker 1: you were saying, lazy, Like, society's obsession with penis size
Speaker 1: ignores a lot of trans men because it assumes that
Speaker 1: all men have a penis, and it ignores a lot
Speaker 1: of trans women because it assumes that anyone with a
Speaker 1: penis is a man. This goes for a lot of
Speaker 1: non binary people as well, just a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are not a cis gender man. And it also
Speaker 1: again shaming small penises stigmatizes the bodies of intersex people
Speaker 1: because when an intersex baby is born with a micro penis,
Speaker 1: doctors will often remove it and surgically turn the genitals
Speaker 1: into a vagina and just basically try to make the
Speaker 1: baby a female baby because of society's obsession with like
Speaker 1: you know, the gender binary and the sex binary, um,
Speaker 1: and doctors will do this without anyone's consent and like
Speaker 1: before the baby could realize how they feel years before,
Speaker 1: and this of course leads to a lot of trauma
Speaker 1: for many intersex people. So again, this just like tendency
Speaker 1: to demonize or make fun of small penises ends up
Speaker 1: being really harmful to a lot of people directly, and
Speaker 1: or it contributes to a larger just like cultural toxicity,
Speaker 1: because like I've seen a lot of otherwise compare fashion
Speaker 1: it and progressive people be like, oh, this person sucks
Speaker 1: and he probably has a tarny dick, and like I've
Speaker 1: been guilty of it myself. I regret ever having done that,
Speaker 1: And so I just want people to know that like
Speaker 1: insulting or shaming someone by saying they have a small
Speaker 1: penis is something that's still happening a lot, and it
Speaker 1: is not okay. Yeah, So I just wanted to like
Speaker 1: lay that all out there because I don't think this
Speaker 1: is something we've talked about on the podcast. But no,
Speaker 1: I think that that's a really good thing to bring
Speaker 1: into the conversation because yeah, like we we try to
Speaker 1: talk about like the ways that hyper masculinity is like
Speaker 1: stylized and kind of forced into media, um, and that
Speaker 1: like if you don't fit a very specific i don't know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, very binary form of masculinity, that is based
Speaker 1: on really just ship that men have made up over
Speaker 1: the years, Uh, that that you are like lesser than
Speaker 1: and that you should feel inherent shame, and then all
Speaker 1: the ship that that leads to and all the problems
Speaker 1: that that leads to for for people and for the
Speaker 1: people in their lives. Like, yeah, yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate that. It was Bedazzled that made us talk
Speaker 1: about it. From there we are. I am glad we're
Speaker 1: talking about um. I I pulled a lot of this
Speaker 1: information from um an article in Everyday Feminism dot com
Speaker 1: that we will link to in the show notes because
Speaker 1: it's worth reading more about. But um yeah, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up because as soon as like
Speaker 1: shaming of small penis size comes up in the movie Bedazzled,
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, here's the chance to talk
Speaker 1: about this. And then it immediately comes up again in
Speaker 1: the next scene where it's like whatever, Brandon Fraser's talking
Speaker 1: to Elizabeth Hurley again and he reacts defensively because he's
Speaker 1: feeling this like shame from this offensive sketch that he
Speaker 1: just appeared in, and it's like, leave people alone. Seriously,
Speaker 1: He's leave everybody alone. UM. So that brings us to
Speaker 1: the next wish, where he again like a lot of
Speaker 1: these wishes are like, you know, there's the catch that
Speaker 1: the devil. There's always some catch. So he has to
Speaker 1: like course correct and like make sure he's very careful
Speaker 1: with his language and like what he wishes for on
Speaker 1: the next wish. So this next one is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be this like bumbling basketball player.
Speaker 1: I want to be really articulate and sophisticated, and yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure I don't have like give me a big penis. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the catch for this one is that um,
Speaker 1: even though he is like talking to Allison and they
Speaker 1: seem to be hitting it off, he does not seem
Speaker 1: to know that he's gay until he goes home and
Speaker 1: sees his partner there, which is like one of the
Speaker 1: actors who's been recurring in all of these sketches, and he's,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm gay. And then that's the that's
Speaker 1: the catch, that's the deal breaker, Like that's the thing
Speaker 1: that is presented as being just as unappealing as like
Speaker 1: being shot at because you're a drug lord. So we
Speaker 1: hated I think in a way they were, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to defend these girls guys. I think they
Speaker 1: were being like, we will never be with her because
Speaker 1: you don't want to. But it doesn't work because he's
Speaker 1: attracted to her, he talks to her, he likes her,
Speaker 1: he takes her home to bid her, and then they
Speaker 1: have this moment where it's like, we'll kiss me so
Speaker 1: I can see if I'm really gay, and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's not how sexuality works, Like no, what it also
Speaker 1: like eliminates the any any possibility that you could be
Speaker 1: by like world or like it's so aggressively binary. The
Speaker 1: partner that he's coming home too is also written in
Speaker 1: these really broad stereotyptereotype like what is happening? Why did
Speaker 1: they give him that week? Every gay man knows everything
Speaker 1: about theater and yeah, and then yeah, for him to
Speaker 1: know something about theater, it's like bingo, gotcha, you know
Speaker 1: theater sexual There are plenty of strange people who do theater.
Speaker 1: I know them, like, and even if they are gay
Speaker 1: or if they're on the spectrum, because we're all on
Speaker 1: some sexual spectrum. Look, there's somebody out there who would
Speaker 1: do it for you. You may just have never madam
Speaker 1: um so like to be like, oh, well, he knows
Speaker 1: musicals and he kissed her and his penis didn't get odd,
Speaker 1: like what the math that they did just was not
Speaker 1: math and none of the math was mathon at least
Speaker 1: I was like, at least that scene was like mercifully
Speaker 1: not extremely long, the way a lot of the scenes were,
Speaker 1: but it was like, God, we were building up to that,
Speaker 1: Like just every sketch in this movie is a different
Speaker 1: fiver of really dated offensive stereotypes, Like yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the only reason that one wasn't longer was because that's
Speaker 1: all that they probably knew about gay people. Even in
Speaker 1: the terms of stereotypes. They're like, Okay, we know they
Speaker 1: like show tunes, we know they don't have sex with women.
Speaker 1: What else should have nothing? Okay, we'll make this half
Speaker 1: a page, all right, next scene, they just didn't have
Speaker 1: any more stereotypes to write it. And a bob, give
Speaker 1: him a bob. Also, like Brendan Fisher should have just
Speaker 1: like stay that seems he seemed like he was having
Speaker 1: a pretty good life, like he like and if like again,
Speaker 1: it's this assumption that because he's gay, he could never
Speaker 1: be happy because he's gay, like like like you have
Speaker 1: a nice house like and and a boyfriend who was
Speaker 1: ready to forgive you for about to be cheating on him,
Speaker 1: like for some reason with the person in the bedroom, like,
Speaker 1: and he was like, guess it's fine. Also, like, that's
Speaker 1: a good observation, Caitlin, because if we take these lives
Speaker 1: and we compare them to the life that he was
Speaker 1: living working at some fucking cubical company with a bunch
Speaker 1: of people who fucking hate him, not having no love
Speaker 1: in his life. Now he gets to be an intelligent, cool,
Speaker 1: smart guy who people love and he's the life of
Speaker 1: the party. Everywhere he goes, everybody's on his you know, ask.
Speaker 1: And then he goes home he has a partner who
Speaker 1: fiercely loves him. That life is so much better than
Speaker 1: the life that Brandon has so much and just trying
Speaker 1: to be like but gay and it's like fuck like you.
Speaker 1: And then and then the second he gets out of
Speaker 1: that wish, he immediately starts saying a ton of homophobe
Speaker 1: accept Elizabeth Hurley, and she's kind of like t he
Speaker 1: he wasn't that a funny joke? And You're like, no, Elizabeth,
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't it wasn't. Yeah, so um, the next
Speaker 1: wish is the President Lincoln one, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of corny, like the only way it could have been
Speaker 1: worse is if they did JFK. Like I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. My main note with that scene as I
Speaker 1: was boring and I was glad it was short. It
Speaker 1: was short. And then his final wish is the wish
Speaker 1: for Allison to have a happy life, which we don't
Speaker 1: like to see play out even right, which I'm like,
Speaker 1: does that mean that her diary comes true? And she's like,
Speaker 1: I want to have a nice man and live in it,
Speaker 1: and and that's the end. That's also the fact that
Speaker 1: his last wish is for a girl who he hasn't
Speaker 1: spoke to him four years. Not your mama, not not
Speaker 1: you know, He's like that lady who I stalk. I
Speaker 1: hope she has a good life, which her having a
Speaker 1: good life would mean probably never coming in contact with
Speaker 1: you again. Brendan Fraser like to hell, which at least
Speaker 1: she is maybe granted, like at least, but it's like,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's so bare minimum of like the way
Speaker 1: that his soul is liberated from hell is by vaguely
Speaker 1: wanting someone he has been stalking for four years to
Speaker 1: have a nice life like that, could you ask for less?
Speaker 1: But then Elizabeth Hurley is like, wow, what a king,
Speaker 1: Like what an amazing to have made this? Like the
Speaker 1: bar is on the floor, really the bar is in hell,
Speaker 1: and I mean speaking of bare minimum stuff. I guess
Speaker 1: I appreciated and wasn't expecting this to happen. Where Brendan
Speaker 1: Fraser when he again just goes and does what he
Speaker 1: should have done from the very beginning, which is just
Speaker 1: try to talk to her and like see if she
Speaker 1: might want to get some coffee with him sometime, and
Speaker 1: she's like, but he's like, you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know you at all, but I'd like to get
Speaker 1: to know you. So at least he's like acknowledging that
Speaker 1: he doesn't know her, and that I guess the reason
Speaker 1: that she's so inconsistent between from like wish to wish
Speaker 1: is that he doesn't. Those are just like those projections.
Speaker 1: We talked about this in our inception episode where yeah,
Speaker 1: well wild connection. Yeah, Like, the character of Mall was
Speaker 1: really weirdly characterized, but it's most it's because it was
Speaker 1: just like Leonardo DiCaprio's character's projection of her that rather
Speaker 1: than like a real person. I hate that writing hack
Speaker 1: of like, well, I don't need to write a female
Speaker 1: character if I write a man thinking about what he
Speaker 1: thinks of female character could be like and about women
Speaker 1: there at all. We're notout to ask questions because this
Speaker 1: is the idea that a man had about a woman.
Speaker 1: But do you not want to speak to your wife
Speaker 1: or sister that bad? Like? What is going on? Like
Speaker 1: the the fucking loophole at turn on my sat brutal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I was genuinely surprised that he
Speaker 1: doesn't end up with her at the end, but then
Speaker 1: I was, um, you know, immediately brought back to earth. Well,
Speaker 1: he just ends up with a different version, a different
Speaker 1: woman that we don't know anything about, which is also
Speaker 1: a message there basically like miss one bus next to
Speaker 1: fifteen one coming okay, just like the other one. You
Speaker 1: won't know nothing about it and she'll be just as
Speaker 1: hot man, don't worry. It was like five days of summary.
Speaker 1: Like the end, it's like, oh this band is I mean,
Speaker 1: even if he's not entitled to this woman, he's entitled
Speaker 1: to a woman, so we better get one in the mix.
Speaker 1: And you're just like, is he though, like doesn't he
Speaker 1: need to like work on himself, just go home and
Speaker 1: lay in the bed and then like be like what
Speaker 1: a day. So I was like, we don't need to
Speaker 1: see him with another one. He don't deserve no woman.
Speaker 1: What has he done to get nothing? He's like, I
Speaker 1: want the girl I stalk to have a nice life.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, oh, he should have wished for
Speaker 1: a therapist. Should have wished for like just anything that
Speaker 1: would have allowed him to like reflect upon his life
Speaker 1: and his choices. Right if he ends on a therapy
Speaker 1: couch and he's like, yeah, I haven't stuck in a
Speaker 1: girl for four years, you know, Like that makes more
Speaker 1: sense to me. And even then he could fall in
Speaker 1: love with the therapist, that would I would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a funny joke, but like it's better than like
Speaker 1: somebody get this man a woman. It's so like it's
Speaker 1: so annoying, and yeah, I don't know the whole Alison thing.
Speaker 1: It's just exhausting, like she you could and and it
Speaker 1: it made me like interested in like how was this
Speaker 1: movie marketed? And the way it was marketed was basically
Speaker 1: like the tagline was like how far will this man go?
Speaker 1: For the woman he loves and it's like he does
Speaker 1: love her, he doesn't know her. How far does he go?
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Devil's just fucking around with him
Speaker 1: for most of the movie. Like, but that was how
Speaker 1: it was presented, Like how far would you go for
Speaker 1: the person you love even though it's a stranger that
Speaker 1: barely met and never talked to. I wonder if an
Speaker 1: actress like how the job was for the woman who
Speaker 1: played Allison. Was she just like, Oh that's an easy
Speaker 1: check because I mean they showed up. She had to
Speaker 1: show up and basically do nothing, say that thing, have
Speaker 1: no emotions, have no choices, just right there, like just
Speaker 1: stay here, okay, put on this week. Okay, but on
Speaker 1: this week. I know it's so bleak. It's like god, ah, well,
Speaker 1: well they want to have any any other stuff to
Speaker 1: bring One quick thing in the beginning when Brendan Fraser
Speaker 1: doesn't believe this devil woman, and he was kind of
Speaker 1: like he was like, oh you must be a scientologist,
Speaker 1: Oh you must be. Basically there's like sex workers shaming
Speaker 1: um because she's like she brings up business. And then
Speaker 1: he thinks because she says that she's a sex worker,
Speaker 1: I only did that once and I didn't mean to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was an accident and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh no, I'm not and then she uses
Speaker 1: the word hooker and it's just very much of the
Speaker 1: of the time. Yeah, it is always gonna just be
Speaker 1: gross to me because it's like, oh, a woman can
Speaker 1: have as much sex as she wants for free, but
Speaker 1: then she's like pulling money out a nice Then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's nasty the funk out of here.
Speaker 1: That's just something mid made up because they don't want
Speaker 1: to pay mid hat pussy. It will be on the
Speaker 1: stock market. I'm sticking as ship. We'll be buying and
Speaker 1: selling it like game stop right now. God, I love
Speaker 1: sex workers. I just want to make that very fucking
Speaker 1: clear that she's fucking weird. Yes, but yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I love how they're doing the internalized misogyny because the
Speaker 1: woman is saying he's like, oh no, that's not what
Speaker 1: I want, miss Mann, which is like, that's girls, I
Speaker 1: would never be that kind of woman. I love me
Speaker 1: and I have sits for free. Yeah, that's another that's
Speaker 1: that's that is like one of the writing. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's every word that's a writing issue, right, but like
Speaker 1: how the writers of this movie very often like give
Speaker 1: the like really toxic protagonists permission to do stuff through
Speaker 1: a woman like I hate that ship so much it
Speaker 1: bothers me. And then I'm like, you think I don't
Speaker 1: notice Larry, Harold and Peter, but I do those. The
Speaker 1: fact that Larry Harold and Peter like that just brings
Speaker 1: it all into perspective. You're like, oh, from the guy
Speaker 1: that brought you fucking Caddyshack and attempts to write a
Speaker 1: female character, it's just not going to happen. I will
Speaker 1: say that Peter Tolin is a is a gay man.
Speaker 1: Uh so there was a gay writer on this movie,
Speaker 1: but he he probably got bullied. I'll feel bad for
Speaker 1: him now because that gaz see he They must have
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, Peter, this is your territory. You write this.
Speaker 1: You know how grossier people are. He's like okay, like
Speaker 1: I have been like awful or otherwise, he's very much
Speaker 1: internalizing still patriot people that we'll see. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I I am not sure if Peter Tolin was out
Speaker 1: when this movie came out, because he was married to
Speaker 1: a woman for many years. Um had a couple of
Speaker 1: kids in a very straight marriage and then came out
Speaker 1: as gay later. I wasn't able to find like when
Speaker 1: that was I would I would assume he may not
Speaker 1: have been out when this movie was released. But uh,
Speaker 1: and if he wrote that part, it makes a little
Speaker 1: more sense, it doesn't make it. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: get it. There's I mean, let's not forget too that,
Speaker 1: like even if he was out, there's still internalized homophobia,
Speaker 1: like the same way there's like, God, women have written
Speaker 1: some really fucked up movies about women. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm still unlearning like internalized misogyny that like was
Speaker 1: very much what was ingrained into my brain as a
Speaker 1: person growing up with movies like Bedazzled. Look Beyonce maybe
Speaker 1: at Girls Run the World and all that now, but
Speaker 1: I remember there was a time when Beyonce had a
Speaker 1: song called Nasty put some clothes on. I told you,
Speaker 1: don't walk out your house without your clothes on. I
Speaker 1: told you, she said, they don't want a hot female
Speaker 1: that's been around the black female. You nasty girl. That
Speaker 1: was the original nasty Girl. And you'll never hear Beyonce
Speaker 1: sing it. And yes, I'm sorry to bring this up.
Speaker 1: Don't have the hive after me. I love you, queen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we all grow all you all have
Speaker 1: internalized misogyny. So there's so it was, you know, co
Speaker 1: written by a gay man, and they're still a very
Speaker 1: homophobic scene scene. Two things can be true, especially because
Speaker 1: like that this was popular to do in two thousand
Speaker 1: This was popularly in two thousand ten. Like it's like
Speaker 1: it's only pretty recently that people the masses are getting
Speaker 1: more aware of, like how problematic jokes like this and
Speaker 1: and storylines like this, yeah fun anymore? And I'm like
Speaker 1: how many That's always the weird thing to me, especially
Speaker 1: like comedians and other older people being like, well all
Speaker 1: this cancel culture and all this stuff, we can't even
Speaker 1: have any fun anymore. I'm like, how many times you
Speaker 1: need to hear the same joke that's punchline Asian or
Speaker 1: punchline gay. But you've heard that joke a million times.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear a new joke. A joke
Speaker 1: was slapping, even if you're like, oh, this racism is
Speaker 1: like you've already heard it, right, so you don't want
Speaker 1: a new joke and maybe it's not as terrible. I
Speaker 1: don't get that logic at all. It's so fucking weird.
Speaker 1: And it's like that this this team is very like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't. I mean, you know, commenters
Speaker 1: could correct me if I but like, this is the
Speaker 1: team that brought you, you know, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Caddyshack, National
Speaker 1: Lampoon's Vacation, groundhog Day, like a lot of very popular
Speaker 1: considered to be classic comedies that they're like they're not
Speaker 1: known for. So the fact that they're now, you know,
Speaker 1: in there like sixties and still trying to make this
Speaker 1: ship happen, it's just like it's such a bummer. It
Speaker 1: does not work. Yes, that's not a little context corner,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Um Yeah, does anyone have any
Speaker 1: other funnal thoughts about Bedazzled? Elizabeth Hurley was fun. She
Speaker 1: was fun. I always love a good Elizabeth Hurley performance.
Speaker 1: She's got cool outfits. She has her shirt where it's
Speaker 1: rhinestones and it says bad. That's fun. She also she um,
Speaker 1: she antagonizes a cat in that scene as well. She
Speaker 1: there's a because Allison has a cat and she goes
Speaker 1: to the cat and the cat's like she's the devil.
Speaker 1: Was my favorite part of the movie Red Leather Body Suit.
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed that one. UM really loved the Devi eight
Speaker 1: Hill Club. Besides the weird dancing videos in the back,
Speaker 1: I was like a club with a pool and then
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, it was so like two
Speaker 1: thousand where you're like, I'm not even going to think
Speaker 1: about the germs right, Oh my god, can you imagine
Speaker 1: getting into lukewarm soupy water with strangers now phone parties?
Speaker 1: How close I was to everyone at Coachella. I tried
Speaker 1: to watch Homecoming and it was giving me anxiety because
Speaker 1: everyone's so close, and I was like, oh God, as
Speaker 1: a Mr Kraft, well does this movie pass the back tests. No,
Speaker 1: I honestly forgot to pay close enough attention. But I
Speaker 1: do not think it Like the first two scenes and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, there were never enough women in the
Speaker 1: scene to pass it, except when he made out with
Speaker 1: Elizabeth or she made out with him, and there was
Speaker 1: those two women and then they were like one woman
Speaker 1: got to speak. She she probably got bumped up from
Speaker 1: background to featured playing any and she got one line
Speaker 1: and then and there get out of here. Women. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the scenes where there's women together, it's that were Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Hurley evicts two nameless women from the scene, and then
Speaker 1: there's the scene where Allison and Elizabeth Hurley are technically
Speaker 1: in the same room, but Alison can't see her right,
Speaker 1: so it does. There's another scene where two women are
Speaker 1: fighting over Brendan Fraser at Club dev eight, but they
Speaker 1: are unnamed and talking and also talking to him for
Speaker 1: the most part, I want to dance with you. No,
Speaker 1: I want to dance with you, right, They're not even
Speaker 1: talking with each other. Yeah, those are the only scenes
Speaker 1: that I can recall where women are even interacting. Oh.
Speaker 1: I did want to bring up really quick with Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 1: He has a very he's had, I mean, his career
Speaker 1: has been very up and down over the years. But
Speaker 1: I did want to shout him out because he was
Speaker 1: one of the UM one of the few men in
Speaker 1: Hollywood who spoke out about being sexually harassed. UM in
Speaker 1: the nineties. He was sexually harassed by a very famous
Speaker 1: executive and like felt a lot of shame about it
Speaker 1: for many years, and then UM kind of came forward
Speaker 1: with it in the last couple of years, which I
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's like it's hard for everyone but
Speaker 1: I feel like, on top of the like you know,
Speaker 1: stigmatization of being abused, the like hyper masculine expectations, on
Speaker 1: top of that, like, I think it's really cool and
Speaker 1: admirable that he came forward with it so and then
Speaker 1: did it the right way because when Terry Crews did
Speaker 1: that ship Terry fucking cruise titty Dancer number one. Um,
Speaker 1: and by then, I mean like he moves his pecks
Speaker 1: up and down. Guys. Uh, every movie is like and
Speaker 1: there's a scene for to dance. No yet we added
Speaker 1: in like he came out and remember and he talked
Speaker 1: about a producer, you know, grabbing him inappropriately. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as black women swelled the ground swell of
Speaker 1: support for him, black men were being kind of toxic
Speaker 1: and like kind of mean, very um, and he kind
Speaker 1: of backtracked. He was like, I'm sorry black man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're right, We're like and so he couldn't even he
Speaker 1: stood in it for a little while and then he compute,
Speaker 1: Terry's a nightmare human. Um. He threw us under the
Speaker 1: bus so quick. He's up there with Omarosa. For me,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, so you're just not You're gonna
Speaker 1: sell us out this hard. Alright, bro, God, that's so
Speaker 1: as Brendan has you know, maintained his truth and also
Speaker 1: like talked about hot with all this, you know, all
Speaker 1: the shame that came with it and how he felt
Speaker 1: like it affected his career because he said something at
Speaker 1: the time internal we did had to play the game
Speaker 1: because he really was I mean, he was like in
Speaker 1: two thousand, he was a fucking huge movie star and
Speaker 1: then he fell off, and it was, you know, all
Speaker 1: kind of lined up with the time he was speaking
Speaker 1: out about it to like his you know, inner team,
Speaker 1: or like he sent a letter to I'll link in
Speaker 1: the description, like his full description, but it sounded like
Speaker 1: a nightmare. And I'm glad you said something. As someone
Speaker 1: who works in Hollywood, I'm not famous enough to speak
Speaker 1: out about the bad things that happened to me. So
Speaker 1: there are tons of bad things that happened to me.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, well, bad things are gonna keep
Speaker 1: having it for a little bit. You gotta be really fun.
Speaker 1: You gotta be like fucking Tom Cruise or like our
Speaker 1: favorite white man Tom Hanks, who somehow had the most
Speaker 1: wild ass son Chet Hanks. How did that happen? How
Speaker 1: did you Lloyd spring Forth, Chet Hanks will never know. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be really powerful or you can't say ship.
Speaker 1: And it's still true to this day because I can
Speaker 1: say something that would have a career no more any
Speaker 1: I need these chipegs. So you shout out to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: damn well, which is a bad movie? High note. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shall we rate Yeah, let's rate it on our nipple
Speaker 1: scale zero to five nipples based on an examination of
Speaker 1: intersectional feminism. You know what with bedazzled. Um, I just
Speaker 1: think it probably has to him. I would give it
Speaker 1: maybe like a half nipple, because at least the devil,
Speaker 1: who is played by a woman is highly motivated and
Speaker 1: has agency and like does some stuff in the in
Speaker 1: the movie. Kind of it's true. And again we said
Speaker 1: it before, we'll say it again. Elizabeth Hurley was fun
Speaker 1: to watch in that role. She's always fun. But other
Speaker 1: than that, it's a mess in every regard, just one
Speaker 1: problematic joke or wish or sketch or whatever after another.
Speaker 1: So one half nipple. And I'm going to give it
Speaker 1: to Orlando Jones because I think he's very funny and
Speaker 1: I loved him in Office Space. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a zero from me. I know there. I like. I
Speaker 1: like Elizabeth Hurley's performance. Uh she's I love her outfits.
Speaker 1: She's a fashion icon. Um. And the movie is just
Speaker 1: it's so weird. It's such a strain. I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be zero there. I feel like they really
Speaker 1: thought they did something by making the Devil a woman,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to reward or that behavior. Uh,
Speaker 1: so it's just going to be a zero. I have
Speaker 1: no nipples to give. Yeah, this is the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever done this on this show. But it's also
Speaker 1: going to be a zero for me. Yeah. I honestly
Speaker 1: would have gave it half a nip if they had
Speaker 1: made God a woman too. Oh, and that would have
Speaker 1: passed the Bechdel tests probably because they Yeah, they do
Speaker 1: talk at the end kind of because man being God
Speaker 1: and woman being the devil. Like Elizabeth, you did your thing.
Speaker 1: You were very British. She was so British. It was
Speaker 1: delicious how British were, um, and I loved that for you.
Speaker 1: And I love that leather jump suit that you with,
Speaker 1: the red one. It was popping your body was fire
Speaker 1: like hell, go ahead, girl, But I can't give it
Speaker 1: no stars for nipples because it's just goddamn. It's so
Speaker 1: bad on so many levels, Like the message is just garbage,
Speaker 1: and it's very Instell pro in Cell and pro like
Speaker 1: rend In. Fraser's character was an asshole. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: that he was nerdy. He was a dick. I'm friends
Speaker 1: with mad nerds. I think that a lot of times
Speaker 1: people who are nerds feel like it's the nerdy side
Speaker 1: of them that people don't like. And a lot of
Speaker 1: times sometimes it is like sometimes you're just genuinely being
Speaker 1: bullied by people, and that's not right. But I find
Speaker 1: the people who never find their tribe, the people who
Speaker 1: never find people that can they can funk with, it's
Speaker 1: because you're an asshole. Because I got nerds who rolled
Speaker 1: deep who they got the homies, they got nerd events,
Speaker 1: they're doing all types of nerdy ship all around town, okay,
Speaker 1: And so if you can never find your tribe, it
Speaker 1: probably has more to do with like you being an
Speaker 1: asshole like this guy was. He was a dick and
Speaker 1: a nerd and a creep and a weirdo and a stalker.
Speaker 1: And then at the end he gets rewarded with a
Speaker 1: Babbage neighbor. No thanks, Hey, I'm gonna drop my nipple rating. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I should have just done that from the beginning. I
Speaker 1: see why you gave her a little nil. She was
Speaker 1: she was it, but it doesn't the movie doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: any nippleage. So yeah, well, Lacy, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: It's it's always a pleasure to have you. Always happy
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Speaker 1: and I guess in conclusion, we wouldn't recommend watching this movie.
Speaker 1: There's I kind of missed the version of me that
Speaker 1: didn't know it existed personally. She was so young. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got this episode out of it, and that it's
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