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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we've taken

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Speaker 2: a look at the film from the Ravens opening loss

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo Bills forty one to forty still stinks. You know,

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Speaker 2: you watch this, but you see a lot that obviously

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Speaker 2: went wrong down the stretch in the Bills historic comeback,

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Speaker 2: but you also see a lot of things that the

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Speaker 2: Ravens did right, which we knew coming out of that game,

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Speaker 2: but the film kind of backs set up also.

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Speaker 3: Garrett, Yeah, I mean I think that, like, as we

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Speaker 3: jump into the film, it really underscored a point that

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Speaker 3: I kind of articulated in our reaction podcast right after

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Speaker 3: the game, And I feel even stronger about this as

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Speaker 3: the dust is settled, Like it was a game where

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Speaker 3: there were so many kind of iconic, memorable things that

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Speaker 3: went right, Like this had all the makings of a

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Speaker 3: game that, like ten years down the road, you were

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Speaker 3: going to be talking about it from just how awesome

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Speaker 3: it was. Remember the Hopkins first touchdown, Cash Henry went

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Speaker 3: off that game. Save Flowers was awesome, Lamar was awesome,

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Speaker 3: like Tyler Loops hitting long field goals.

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Speaker 1: Like all these things, a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: You're just like, man, that was an awesome night, that

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Speaker 3: was an awesome game, and now obviously the whole thing

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Speaker 3: is tainted because of the final result. And when you

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Speaker 3: look at the film, it's it's kind of similar, like

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of things to like, particularly on offense,

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Speaker 3: they feel good about. But then you also it almost

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Speaker 3: in some ways makes the final It makes it more

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Speaker 3: painful because you're like, man, you did all of these

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Speaker 3: things right, and yet you still didn't come away with

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Speaker 3: the win, and so grappling with that is kind of difficult.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens are going through that right now, and we'll

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Speaker 3: dive into some of the specifics of how this team

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Speaker 3: got to this point and where they go from here.

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Speaker 2: Well, just a big picture before you do that. I

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Speaker 2: also want to say that, you know, overreaction Monday, especially

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Speaker 2: in Week one of the NFL season, that's that's the

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Speaker 2: prime overreaction Monday, and you know, I think some of

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Speaker 2: it is certainly legit. The Ravens had a lot of

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Speaker 2: problems down the stretch that game, and there's defensive things

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Speaker 2: especially that they need to clean up. And it wasn't

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Speaker 2: perfect on offense either, despite scoring forty points, right, and

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Speaker 2: so like some of that stuff is fair and it's

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Speaker 2: fair to question things, and coaches do that and players

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Speaker 2: do that. Certainly, when I watched the film and I

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Speaker 2: stepped back after this game with a couple of days

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Speaker 2: removed from it, this is still a really good team

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Speaker 2: that's gonna win a lot of games this year. And

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Speaker 2: what they need to do is beat the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: in the Kansas City Chiefs if they're ultimately going to

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Speaker 2: get to where they want to get to, and those

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Speaker 2: two that's been a problem.

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Speaker 1: So they got to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: But like, coming away from that game, certainly for the

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Speaker 2: vast majority of that game, you're like, man, you just

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Speaker 2: went into Buffalo, a place where they haven't lost in

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Speaker 2: they had eleven straight regular season wins.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta go back a couple of years for

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Speaker 3: the last loss at home.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, Like they hadn't lost at home in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Week one, that place was pop and against a really

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Speaker 2: just good team, right, another Super Bowl contender, and like

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Speaker 2: you had him on the ropes and it wasn't even

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Speaker 2: really close, like they were just you know. And then

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Speaker 2: also on top of that, in order for the Bills

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Speaker 2: to happen that, by the law of averages, shouldn't usually happen.

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Speaker 2: Usually you're not going to get a tipped pass in

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Speaker 2: the front of the end zone that's caught by your

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Speaker 2: fourth down like that. That's kind of a flukeish play, right.

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Speaker 2: If that doesn't happen, the Ravens win the game.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Derek Henry usually doesn't fumble the ball. He had three

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Speaker 2: fumbles last year in like three hundred and twenty five carries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially late in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's not a fumbler. So, like that's

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Speaker 2: another kind of outlier, right, And you're never gonna play

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Speaker 2: the perfect games, certainly, But like there were a number

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Speaker 2: of things in that game. I Oh, Hamilton at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game came up a finger away from

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Speaker 2: blocking that field goal.

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Speaker 3: I think just kind of I think he grazed it

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Speaker 3: I think he grazed that football. When you look at

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Speaker 3: altered that trajectory just the tiniest, tiny bit crazy.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine that ending that would if he had

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Speaker 2: come through and blocked that field goal, that would have

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Speaker 3: I kind of felt sick to my stomach looking at

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Speaker 3: that in really slow mode detail, just being like how

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Speaker 3: close he was to blocking that and how epic that

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, so I look at all those kind of collection

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Speaker 2: a nine to nine point whatever chance of winning.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And so as much as that game stung, like there's

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Speaker 2: there's one of two ways the Ravens are going to

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Speaker 2: go from here. Either that game is a early season

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Speaker 2: bucket of cold what they got thrown your face that says, WHOA, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, we know we are really good coming this year,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's picking us to win the Super Bowl. Fifty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of people are picking the Ravens to win

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Speaker 2: before that game, Like, but hey, if we're if we don't,

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Speaker 2: if we're not about our business and we're not on

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Speaker 2: our p's and q's up until triple zeros on the clock,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna lose like it's either a wake up call

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Speaker 2: for them, or this is like a harbinger of some

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Speaker 2: underlying problems that we didn't see, and it's a self

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Speaker 2: fulfilling prophecy, and you say, oh, man, next time we're

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Speaker 2: in that scenario, we got a lead in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: we can't blow it, we can't you know whatever, and

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Speaker 2: you start to think too much and you're not playing

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Speaker 2: the game. I like to think that you know, the

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Speaker 2: you know, an air quotess, a wake up call, and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're we know we're good, but like we can be beaten.

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Speaker 2: And thus, from this point out win a lot of games,

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Speaker 2: including one like that where you're up big late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that that's probably a good way to

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Speaker 3: look at it. And I also I think the reality

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Speaker 3: and so a lot of it truthfully comes down to

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Speaker 3: feeling like everything is building to those types of games

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Speaker 3: in the postseason, and so you've got to get good enough.

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Speaker 3: You're not playing the playoffs right now, You've got to

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Speaker 3: your team in positions so that you're prepared all the

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Speaker 3: way across the board. And so I think that, like mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and try to spin

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Speaker 3: it is like, hey, look it's actually good they lost

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Speaker 3: that game, because it's a wake up call. Like I'm

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Speaker 3: not going that direction. I know you're not either, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but like I do think that all of these things

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Speaker 3: to them and is critical and that will ultimately determine

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Speaker 3: how far the team ends up going. And so the

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Speaker 3: other thing too, I would say, just like had a

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Speaker 3: big picture and looking at these teams like these are

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Speaker 3: the two best players in the league, and the game

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Speaker 3: just if you like remove the emotional connection to it,

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Speaker 3: the game lived up to it. It was like in

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Speaker 3: my best game in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Actually, all my neighbors and stuff, everybody who have bumped

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Speaker 2: into who you know, they're kind of like tough one,

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Speaker 2: but man, that was a heck of a game, right

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, I'm just not ready to

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Speaker 1: They're like that was amazing. Wow, what a game.

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Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I like if you're a Cowboys fan

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Speaker 3: Lamar and Josh Allenson.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're like you got, you got, you got your

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Speaker 1: money's right exactly.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that, like these are two teams

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Speaker 3: close game. And that's that's my expectation. Like most of

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Speaker 3: be fifty to fifty split. Like they're they're right there,

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Speaker 2: That think it's kind of winning the fringes and we

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Speaker 2: can we're gonna talk more about these things, but it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like between the hash marks. The

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Speaker 2: Ravens won, right, but it's like those fringe things. It's

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Speaker 2: the end of the first half scenario.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could tell us you want to start.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about the fringes in some ways,

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Speaker 3: literally it's the fringe of the field, keeping them in

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Speaker 1: The half exactly get a kind of.

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Speaker 3: A cheap field goal in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean literally and kind of metaphorically, it's

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Speaker 2: like winning that stuff on the edges, Like the Ravens

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's dive into this.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the biggest question coming out of this game

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Speaker 2: is like what happened to the defense?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: On the record in my season predictions as saying I

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Speaker 2: That game isn't helping finish number one. And so, Garrett,

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Speaker 2: when you looked at the film and heard from players

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Speaker 2: and coach Harball, you know Harball on Monday, what did

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Speaker 2: you take away from why they had such a tough night?

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Speaker 3: Well, really in that and that fourth quarter is obviously

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Speaker 3: when it all turned. And I think that a couple

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Speaker 3: of things stand out to me. One is pass rush

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Speaker 3: and secondary play are married. They're always connected. And something

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Speaker 3: that that Harbaugh did mention in his Monday press conference

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Speaker 3: is pass rush lanes, and so what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: What are pass rush lanes? Basically, Like, it's not just

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Speaker 3: a matter of do whatever you can to get to

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Speaker 3: the quarterback you need to, there's a there's a path

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Speaker 3: And so you would see in some of these situations

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Speaker 1: And that's that's really where he excels.

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Speaker 3: That's that's where his now he's like the best. Him

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Speaker 3: too many situations, the Ravens right outside linebacker oftentimes would

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Speaker 3: And that was kind of pitch and catch for those

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Speaker 2: I think also a factor to considering all that is now,

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Speaker 3: And they were basically on the field, like the entire

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Speaker 3: So it was like three and out. Between that, you

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Speaker 1: And they're and then they're chucking and they're.

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Speaker 3: They're going forward and fourth down they're in they're in

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Speaker 3: But I do think that that there's probably an element

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I certainly agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And and when you talk about giving too much

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Speaker 3: Like the Ravens. The Ravens get a field goal, Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Done that right, and so but on that play, if

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Speaker 2: So they had they took like linebackers and put them

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Speaker 1: And so like they were playing that.

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Speaker 2: You know, they have Kean Coleman who can go up

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Speaker 3: It was too easy. Yeah, it was just too easy,

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Speaker 3: That was really especially when you lose by one. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he could have sparked Josh Allen a little bit,

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Speaker 3: And it also just speaks to like the situations then,

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Speaker 3: they have to do better in critical situations, end of half,

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Speaker 2: And just to pause, yeah, just to cut in for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that that is definitely the base

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Speaker 4: All that doesn't help, yeah, exactly, Like it's perspective, but

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Speaker 4: like this was a game the Ravens certainly feel like

442
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Speaker 4: they should have won, and so they're taking a look

443
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Speaker 4: at this, like how they approach things game management wise,

444
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Speaker 4: calls offensively and defensively, how you can what you can

445
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Speaker 4: do differently to manage a.

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Speaker 3: Lead clock, all that stuff, all the stuff that we're

447
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Speaker 3: going to talk doing a little bit here, Like that's

448
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Speaker 3: something that they are taking a hard look at right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we move to the offensive side the ball,

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Speaker 2: I do want to shout out Kyle Homiltson's awesome game.

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Speaker 1: He was great, great, great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, guy gets the massive extension. Look the best

453
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Speaker 2: player on the field defensively, certainly for the Ravens at

454
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Speaker 2: Oliver had a pretty darn good game for the Bills,

455
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Speaker 2: but I mean the best player under the Ravens defense

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Speaker 2: in terms of sniffing out plays like the diagnosing just

457
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Speaker 2: very quickly to blow up the play where he forced

458
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Speaker 2: the fumble really impressive diagnosis and just keying in on that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, got the interception on the two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: Try shutting of later on the ball, but got the interception. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: I mean he was just everywhere making tackles.

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Speaker 1: PBUs.

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Speaker 2: I thought Kyle Homiltson goodness gracious, that was the kind

464
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Speaker 2: of game where, especially in front of the nation, starts

465
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Speaker 2: the defensive MVP chatter. If he had blocked that field

466
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Speaker 2: goal to end the game, He's at the top of

467
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Speaker 2: the talk, the early talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be, honestly, if if he's going to

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Speaker 3: be in that conversation, not that like this is his

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Speaker 3: main priority defensives two hundred passing yards in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: and that is correct. Yeah, So like if anybody's going

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Speaker 3: to get into that conversation on this team, I think

473
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Speaker 3: that the Ravens obviously just had to play better defensively

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Speaker 3: as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: But he was great. He was the highest great player

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Speaker 3: on Pro Football Focus. Also with him, not that this

478
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Speaker 3: is a surprise, Ravens continue to move him around. About

479
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Speaker 3: seventy five percent of the time was at safety that's

480
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Speaker 3: your traditional safety role, and then about twenty percent he's

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Speaker 3: kind of in the box. Up there at closer to

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, so I would expect that that,

483
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Speaker 3: and then the other five was really as a slot corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's playing less slot corner. I mean

485
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Speaker 2: that's the biggest that's the change. Marlon Humphrey is playing

486
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Speaker 2: there an extensive amount, as we expected and talked about previously.

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Speaker 1: And I like that lineup for the Ravens generally speaking.

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Speaker 3: Two other notes that I have defensively, Teddy Buchanan, the

489
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Speaker 3: rookie fourth round pick, ends up really splitting the snaps

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Speaker 3: next to Roquan Smith along with Trends Simpsons.

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Speaker 1: No, it's got slightly a few more.

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Speaker 3: Basically, those guys kind of split that role. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I thought both of them neither of them jumped out

494
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Speaker 3: as like great or horrible. You know, they were kind

495
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Speaker 3: of in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought Trenton had a tackle for loss and I

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Speaker 2: thought Teddy made some plays.

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Speaker 1: He flashed for me a few times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that will be something to monitor. They just Teddy,

501
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is his first game.

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Speaker 2: John Harball said that he expects that to continue. For

503
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Speaker 2: right now is kind of a fairly even split. One

504
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Speaker 2: guy could get a few more than the other just

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Speaker 2: depending on game situation.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And then I do think that like we'll we'll

507
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Speaker 3: see just on defense on Green he had twenty six snaps,

508
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Speaker 3: So does that increase you know, he's playing about a

509
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Speaker 3: quarter of the snaps or a little bit more than that.

510
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Speaker 3: But like, he's a guy that we all have been

511
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Speaker 3: excited about. On one play in particularly, put Dion Dawkins

512
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Speaker 3: on his back, so you see the power that he has.

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Speaker 3: Also think the rush Land integrity that we talked about

514
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Speaker 3: a little bit earlier is true for him to and

515
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Speaker 3: maintaining that I think is going to be important. I

516
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Speaker 3: think he'll learn as a rookie, Like you know, he

517
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Speaker 3: could just beat anybody at the college level, but that's

518
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Speaker 3: not gonna be the case at the pro. So you

519
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Speaker 3: need to maintain that rush lane integrity. But I do

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Speaker 3: wonder if he's a guy that could see an upticking

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Speaker 3: snaps fairly soon or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Malachi Starts is going to be kicking himself.

523
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Speaker 2: Dropped an interception on the bills first drive that he

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Speaker 2: could have had. Sure not like loving that one. And

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Speaker 2: then I thought that the Bills tried to kind of

526
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Speaker 2: screen game him. They tried to come at him, especially

527
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Speaker 2: early in that game, and send some big.

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Speaker 1: Blockers that way.

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Speaker 2: He got blocked out of bounds on one on that

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Speaker 2: first drive, and so I think as he continues to

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Speaker 2: evolve and get you know, see those blockers come and

532
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Speaker 2: establish himself, get a little more physical with that stuff,

533
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Speaker 2: the better off he'll be.

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Speaker 1: Also.

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Speaker 3: And the last one I have on defense, she know

536
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Speaker 3: it was a I thought he had a pretty good game,

537
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Speaker 3: had a drop pick which really would have ended the game.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's one of the things that

539
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's going to be kicking kicking self over.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was a block or dropped pick.

541
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Speaker 3: He had the he had the pick kind of in

542
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Speaker 3: his hands and went to the ground and it hit

543
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Speaker 3: the ground. So oh yeah, that would have been That

544
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Speaker 3: would have been close. It was really close. I mean

545
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Speaker 3: he had the celebration and they reviewed it instead of

546
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Speaker 3: hit the ground, which it it did. But that one

547
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: was really close.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I forgot. I totally forgot about that play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would have that would have been in

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Speaker 3: the game. Really they were even would have had it

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Speaker 3: all back in Bill's territory up fifteen at that point,

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Speaker 3: So I I just think that, like, that's one of

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Speaker 3: the many examples of like the game of inchest thing

554
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Speaker 3: that one mouth.

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Speaker 1: Dropped the picks. Thanks a lot, you're back in, Yeah,

556
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Speaker 1: thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: But overall, I do think that Cheeto, like he was

558
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Speaker 3: a guy excited when he signed, then he missed some

559
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Speaker 3: time in the off season and in training camp. Didn't

560
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Speaker 3: spend a ton of time talking about him. But I

561
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Speaker 3: think that, like, he looks like he's playing at a

562
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Speaker 3: pretty high level. And this is a guy that you know,

563
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Speaker 3: has been a really good player in his career, got

564
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Speaker 3: a really huge contract last year. Don't forget about this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And and so he's an important piece of this defense,

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Speaker 3: and I think he's going to have a huge role

567
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: He's the number three corner, yeah, behind Nate Wiggans and

569
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Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey seventy nine percent of the defensive snaps. And

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Speaker 2: now as Jaiyir kind of continues to work his way

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Speaker 2: back into game shape after're missing so much time, I mean,

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Speaker 2: JayR needs to play better too to get on the

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Speaker 2: field more. But so Cheetos certainly I think has earned

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Speaker 2: those reps as now.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see how that continues to shake out. As

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Speaker 1: the season goes on.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna take a quick break. We

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Speaker 3: come back, we'll dive into the offensive side of the football.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lage Podcast. We're coming to you

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Speaker 3: from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to mention

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Speaker 3: our partners with Traffickings sports Book. They are an official

582
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Speaker 3: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings Sportsbook. The

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Speaker 3: Crown is yours. So this was a historic day on offense.

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Speaker 3: One of the notes that stood out to me. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of impressive stats about this offense. It

586
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Speaker 3: was the highest explosive play rate thirty two percent for

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Speaker 3: any team in the NFL over the last decade, according

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Speaker 3: to Next Gen Stats. So the Ravens were putting up

589
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Speaker 3: explosive and to be honest, that that's why, as we

590
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Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, the Ravens part of the reason they only

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Speaker 3: had fifty one snaps on offense because they were scoring

592
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Speaker 3: so fast and like in a crazy way like that's

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Speaker 3: part of the reason the defense was on the field

594
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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 2: Like they were to slow down guys, stop getting the

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Speaker 2: end zone so fast.

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Speaker 3: Yea, some long drives here. Enough, these four play touchdowns drives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek, come on, man, stop down.

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Speaker 3: On the one like, but but they were. They were

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Speaker 3: just scoring at will, especially in those first three quarters,

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Speaker 3: and so highest again, highest explosive play rate of any

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Speaker 3: team in the last deck.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty crazy. Let that sink in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the last decade.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The most explosive team in one game. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about myself included how

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Speaker 2: can this offense be better than last year? They were

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Speaker 2: so good number one in the league in yards per

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Speaker 2: game last year?

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Speaker 1: Right, might they might be better?

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Speaker 2: And they didn't have Patrick or card and Isaiah likely

613
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Speaker 2: in two of your key key players in this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're going against a pretty darn good defense

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Speaker 2: with a very physical, very physical defense of the very

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Speaker 2: good front. Now they were missing corners. I think that, like,

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Speaker 2: take that for what it is, and so I think

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Speaker 2: the Ravens took advantage of that to some degree certainly,

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Speaker 2: but still pretty darn good defense in a hostile environment

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Speaker 2: that was rocking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. The offense was great. You

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Speaker 3: score forty points, it's a great day. And individually, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of things to like a guy that I'll

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Speaker 3: start with is Jay Flowers. I just thought Zay looks

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Speaker 3: like he's taking another step in his game. He just

627
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Speaker 3: continues to kind of develop.

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Speaker 2: And he had five He averaged five point three yards

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Speaker 2: of separation from the nearest defender when he was targeted. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which led He led all wide receivers in Week one

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Speaker 2: in receiving yards, top of the league, yards after catch,

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Speaker 2: and expected points added EPA on his targets. So right now,

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Speaker 2: Zay Flower's best receiver in the NFL in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So just a just a great game from him, and

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Speaker 3: if if he can continue to play at that level,

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Speaker 3: that's a difference maker for this offense.

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Speaker 1: Put my point three.

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Speaker 2: Yards of separation is like how much separation I get

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Speaker 2: against you run the forty Yeah, yeah, across the finish line.

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Speaker 3: Five point three that's an insult to day. He even

642
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: suggests that you're that quick, but yeah, like that that

643
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: that's the thing about him, Like he can get open.

644
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: He just has been able to do that. He's so shifty.

645
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: But he's also doing it down the field. They're using

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Speaker 3: him in different ways. So awesome, awesome game from Zay.

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry obviously he had a monster night two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: The fumble is the thing that, you know, he's really

649
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Speaker 3: kicking himself over again. In his postgame press conference, he

650
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: said that he addressed the team after the game and

651
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Speaker 3: took responsibility for the loss, which is really tough on

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Speaker 3: a game where where he had one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: nine rushing yards and two scores.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lamar Jackson wasn't having any of that.

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Speaker 3: It's like, that's that kind of speaks to what I was

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Speaker 3: talking about earlier when it was like, there's so much

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Speaker 3: to like, but then it's all tainted, and that's I

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Speaker 3: think Henry is a kind of at the top of

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Speaker 3: that list.

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Speaker 2: Well. And Derek Henry, just the guy he is, can

661
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Speaker 2: guarantee all the great things he did in that game.

662
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Speaker 1: Are just flushed in his mind. Yeah, guarantee it.

663
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is going to be stewing over that fumble

664
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Speaker 2: all the way until we kick off against the Browns.

665
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Speaker 2: Like that's just the kind of player he is, like

666
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Speaker 2: he is and beyond yes, he is his own harshest critic.

667
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: And there's you can't even see the person in number two,

668
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, So it's he's going to be very, very

669
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Speaker 2: motivated coming off.

670
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Speaker 3: Of that one note on him that stood out to me.

671
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Speaker 3: Next gen stats on his top speed twenty one point

672
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Speaker 3: seven miles per hour. So has he lost a step? No,

673
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Speaker 3: The answer is no. He was the fastest running back

674
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Speaker 3: in the.

675
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Speaker 2: NFL, second fastest ball carrier behind DK Metcalf offensive ball carrier.

676
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Speaker 3: Yep.

677
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Speaker 2: So his top speed from last year was twenty one

678
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Speaker 2: point seven to two. That was his top time of

679
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Speaker 2: all of last season. He wasn't too far off of that.

680
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: That happened on the forty seven yard touchdown that he had.

681
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: That was the play where he hit that top speed. So,

682
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Speaker 3: I mean late in the game, and he's the fastest

683
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Speaker 3: running back in the NFL, so he continues to just

684
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Speaker 3: put up.

685
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Speaker 1: He's a machine.

686
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Speaker 3: He's no slowing down. If you had any doubts about that,

687
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Speaker 3: I think he answered that pretty convincingly.

688
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Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely agree. And I thought, Lamar, you know the

689
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Ravens offensive stars like came out to play.

690
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Speaker 2: Thought the Bills continued to blitz him at a high rate.

691
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: That seems to be what they they want to do.

692
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: That's how they want to attack Lamar Jackson is keep

693
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Speaker 2: him in the pocket. But you also have to get

694
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Speaker 2: pressure on him because they'll just dice, slice and dice

695
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: you if you don't if he's just sitting back there.

696
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Speaker 1: So they blitzed him at a very high rate.

697
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: Lamar still did pretty darn well against that, completed seven

698
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Speaker 2: of nine passes for one hundred and forty yards and

699
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Speaker 2: a touchdown against.

700
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Speaker 1: The Bills blitz.

701
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: So they blitzed on forty five point five percent of

702
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Lamar's dropbacks, the second highest rate by the Bills defense

703
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: over the past three seasons.

704
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Speaker 1: You know what, the other one was.

705
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Speaker 2: The only time the Bills that blitz at a higher

706
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: rate was in the twenty twenty four AFC Divisional.

707
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Speaker 1: Matchup last year in the playoffs.

708
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Speaker 3: They clearly have a strategy for how they want to

709
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: attack exact offense. So it didn't really work well for

710
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: the majority of this game.

711
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they kept doing it, kept.

712
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Speaker 3: Doing it, and so I think that, you know, they

713
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Speaker 3: think that speaks to Lamar's ability to have to be

714
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Speaker 3: able to handle that blitz. Yep, you know, I think

715
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Speaker 3: the other thing too. So there's lots alike on offense.

716
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Speaker 3: The offensive line play obviously, the line is always a

717
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: question and coming into the season, that's the that's the

718
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: case once again, and so what's your what do you

719
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Speaker 3: make of the line, because some hands said, hey, man,

720
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Speaker 3: you dominated the ground game, control the line of scrimmage,

721
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Speaker 3: put up all these points. But then late in the

722
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, they when Buffalo was really coming downhill to

723
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Speaker 3: stop the run, they weren't able to get the push.

724
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: They weren't able to pick up a critical first down

725
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: to move the chains and end the game. So what

726
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Speaker 3: do you make of the offensive line play in this opener?

727
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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Ronnie Stanley and tire linn Bomb

728
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: had really very very strong games. And I thought that

729
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: there were just too many bad plays on film from

730
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: particularly follow Ali and Rosengarten. I mean, that's just what

731
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Speaker 2: it was. I didn't think they had their strongest games,

732
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Speaker 2: you know. I thought Daniel had a tough start to

733
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Speaker 2: last season also, and maybe she's just a guy that

734
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: needs to get his feet wet a little bit more.

735
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Speaker 2: But you kind of you see why the Ravens played

736
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Speaker 2: those two guys in the preseason, some you know, tried

737
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Speaker 2: to get them up and going. But I didn't think

738
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Speaker 2: it was their best game. I thought, ed Oliver, as

739
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, the Bills defensive tackle had a ridiculously

740
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Speaker 2: a very good game. It's a good player and he

741
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Speaker 2: played one of his best games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Ed Oliver was was great. He was

743
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Speaker 3: a problem at times. And actually one of the points

744
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Speaker 3: I think in the next one that we're going to

745
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: get to is some of the game management stuff in

746
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: a big question. I've got fan questions here. I'll come

747
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: back to Ed Oliver here in a second, but this

748
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: is a question and we got from han Win. You

749
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL

750
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: dot net. Uh. The email here is what an unbelievable

751
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: and disappointing loss for us tonight. I can't help but

752
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: feel that we were conservative at the end. We should

753
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: have put the ball in Lamar's hands to run our

754
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: pass on fourth down. He's talking about the fourth and

755
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: three situation on the Ravens final possession of the game.

756
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: Defense couldn't be stopped there. The defense couldn't stop the Bills.

757
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: So put the ball on Lamar's hands and prove the

758
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: world that he is the rightful MVP is what his

759
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: point was, and so how.

760
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Speaker 2: About we just win the game. That's where approve right there.

761
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Speaker 3: So that's that's the email. As always you can email

762
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Speaker 3: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net.

763
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Speaker 3: So this was a big talking point coming out of

764
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Speaker 3: this game. Should the Ravens have gone for it? Uh

765
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Speaker 3: in that situation? One point, just to provide additional.

766
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Speaker 1: There's context needed.

767
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Speaker 3: Yes, So Lamar said after the game he was he

768
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Speaker 3: was cramping up at at that point. I mentioned Ed

769
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Speaker 3: Oliver because on that play, on the third down play,

770
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Speaker 3: which was a completion for seven yards to DeAndre Hopkins,

771
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Speaker 3: at Oliver came inside on the stunt, got to a

772
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Speaker 3: point where he had a free shot on Lamar Jackson

773
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Speaker 3: and he delivered it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the biggest hits I've

775
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Speaker 1: ever seen Lamar Jackson take.

776
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: He got crushed on that play, you know, hit him

777
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Speaker 3: right after he threw the ball. Huge hit.

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Speaker 2: And Seohn Harbaal said that when he looked at Lamar's

779
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: face as he was coming off the field after that play,

780
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Speaker 2: that he could sell something was off.

781
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so Lamar kind of jogged off after that play.

782
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Speaker 3: And if the Ravens were gonna go for it in

783
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: that situation, then John said that they would have had

784
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: a call time out there like they were. They were

785
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: not in a position to just okay, we've got the

786
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: fourth down, call ready, get right up on the line

787
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 3: of scrimmers. They would have to call time out there

788
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: to get things situated and then get on the line

789
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: and then run the play.

790
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Speaker 2: Which is fine, you can do that, right and the like.

791
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: I think there's a you can make a case that

792
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: they should have done that. I think that's fair to debate,

793
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: you know. I it's hard to say because the medical

794
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: component with the like, could they have taken a time

795
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: out and he go back in there and have been fine?

796
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

797
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, like how long it would have taken

798
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: for Lamar to be feeling fine, right, fine enough to

799
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 2: run a play successfully and now you can go down

800
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: the All right, If let's just say Lamar can't run

801
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: a play, like, can you go wildcat with Derrick Henry

802
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: and try to pick that up?

803
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: You can?

804
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: You know, generally speaking, the medical component aside, like if

805
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: Lamar had not gotten his bell wrung on that play

806
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: or not been cramping or whatever it was, I would

807
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: say go for it.

808
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Speaker 1: That would be my hunch.

809
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you've seen this with Josh Allen,

810
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: You've seen it with Mahomes.

811
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Speaker 1: You've seen it with these guys.

812
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Certainly, the way that the game was playing out at

813
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: that point, with how many defensive snaps your defense was

814
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: playing to that point, I think it was worth the

815
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: risk not to mention like they have had a very

816
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: hard time stopping your offense all day long.

817
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Speaker 1: I think that was worth the gamble.

818
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: Additionally, even if you do give them the ball back

819
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: on your side of the field and they're almost in

820
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: field goal range already, okay, if they score faster, I'm

821
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: okay with that. The last thing I want is what

822
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: ended up playing out where you have no time on

823
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: the back end to go back down the field and

824
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: try to either kick a game winning field goal or

825
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Yeah, and so like I'm kind of obviously

826
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: you pick it up, you win the game, but like,

827
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Speaker 2: if you don't, there's somewhat of a benefit to them

828
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Speaker 2: being closer to scoring.

829
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Speaker 1: And so.

830
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Speaker 2: You know, if John Harball had not seen Lamar's face

831
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Speaker 2: and been like, yeah, he is not ready to run

832
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: a play, then I think there would have been a

833
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: higher chance of him going for it. And generally speaking,

834
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Speaker 2: you know, you look at the analytics and the Ravens

835
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: are the most aggressive team on fourth down. I think

836
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Speaker 2: it was twenty nineteen. They haven't been as aggressive in

837
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: recent years. John Harball's like gut, like just for listeners

838
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: out there to know, generally speaking, I think that his

839
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: football gut says be aggressive. Like if I were to

840
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: just describe to the layman likes John Harball a conservative,

841
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: aggressive coach. Aggressive is how I would describe him. Yeah,

842
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how much the look that he saw

843
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: in Lamar Jackson's face change that.

844
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a new idea what Lamar said to the

845
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: coaches as he came off the field or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Again, when you see.

847
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Speaker 2: Your star quarterback coming off, and this is a guy

848
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson who's many times been like, let's go for it, coach,

849
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: I want the ball, Let's go for it. When you

850
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: see him jogging off doesn't instill confidence exactly well.

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: And he also said, like Lamar said, had he not

852
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: been cramping, is what he said after the game, then

853
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: he would have been advocating to go for it in

854
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: that situation. So I think that the hit, the cramping

855
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: like whatever it was, like, all of that is something

856
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: that is important contact when discussing whether or not they

857
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: should have gone for it on fourth down. The other

858
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: point I think is just the play calling that led

859
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: up to that. Harwall did talk about that on Monday,

860
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: and you know, there's just like this, it doesn't work,

861
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: so everything gets second guess. But like, on one hand,

862
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: you like the Ravens base that they ran it twice.

863
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: The Bills burn their timeouts and so you want to

864
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: run clock. That's what you wanted to do, and so

865
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: should they should they have thrown it. Something that Hardball

866
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: said is maybe would have liked to see like a

867
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: play action naked boot in that situation. Everyone's comes out

868
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: on Derrick Henry and Lamar rolls out and can either

869
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: throw it or run it in that situation, and you

870
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: know you like your chances there.

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00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if if I've also seen people be

872
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: like that Lamar was throwing it, he was dicing them up,

873
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: like throw it, take him by surprise, throw the ball.

874
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: If if that's an incompletion, the Ravens coaches are getting

875
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: killed for not running clock in that situation, like just killed,

876
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: and so it's a pretty that's a pretty darn big risk.

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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: And that's why I kind of I agree with John.

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00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: I like then naked bootleg because it gives you the

879
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Speaker 2: option to throw, but also like, hey, Lamar running the ball,

880
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Speaker 2: I'm always okay.

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Speaker 3: With that option too, And like the other side of

882
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Speaker 3: it too, is just like you know what, you got

883
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: the best late game closer running back in football historically.

884
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: Just give him the ball and let him go to

885
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 3: work well and right.

886
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of the killer of like why you know,

887
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Speaker 2: when you're you're talking about how the Ravens have blown

888
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: so many late fourth quarter leads, Like, theoretically the Ravens

889
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: should have an awesome offense for closing out games. I've

890
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: had the best rushing attack in the league for the.

891
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Last number of years.

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Speaker 2: Here, you know, like that's what it takes to close

893
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: out games, being able to run the ball. But it's

894
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: also like being able to run the ball when you

895
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: have to run the ball. And you know, when you

896
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: have this this the most mobile, awesome running quarterback of

897
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Speaker 2: all time who can keep it and run the ball.

898
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Speaker 2: So like that's kind of part of the puzzling thing

899
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Speaker 2: about why the Ravens have struggled in these situations more

900
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Speaker 2: than they should is that, like, you have the recipe

901
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: to be very good in this situation.

902
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Speaker 3: Right, right, I totally agree. Here's a thought here again

903
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Speaker 3: and email. This one's from Dusty. You emailed us the

904
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Speaker 3: lounge at ravenst NFL dot net. Made a number of points,

905
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: but he said all of the Ravens need to put

906
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: last night's loss firmly in the rearview mirror. I also

907
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: believe that they need to keep the pedal, the foot

908
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: on the pedal, especially on offense, until they're up at

909
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Speaker 3: least three to four scores in the fourth quarter, or

910
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: whenever the player you four scores, you know four, whenever

911
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: the players or coaches start to get a little lax,

912
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: somebody needs to step up and say the words, remember Buffalo.

913
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: I believe those words could galvanize this Ravens team and

914
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: remind them not to ever go into cruise control at

915
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: any point in any game this year. That's kind of

916
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Speaker 3: the point that it's not the exact same, but it's

917
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: it's the cold water point that you made that this

918
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Speaker 3: game can kind of serve as a reminder.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's to the point that John Harwall

920
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: talked about how they're going to take a deep dive

921
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: on what their approach is in these game situations, like

922
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: how aggressive do we want to be? That's the question,

923
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: because you know you can, you can be aggressive and

924
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: get it and you get you know, burned by it, certainly.

925
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: But if you're not aggressive enough, sometimes these you get

926
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: these like and the other team starts to get a

927
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: little bit of hot, a little hot, a little confidence

928
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: in the snowball. It's just the snowball gets rolling downhill.

929
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Speaker 2: And so I think to a degree it is a

930
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: philosophical kind of question as much as it is like

931
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: what are our plays called?

932
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Speaker 1: All the specifics and all that stuff.

933
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Speaker 2: I like the four score rule. Let's call it the

934
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln rule. Four score and seven years ago you got.

935
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Speaker 3: Four scores in order to relax in the fourth quarter.

936
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Speaker 3: Anything else on offense or game management wise? Do you

937
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: want to hit? No? Okay? One more email here. This

938
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Speaker 3: is from Ashley Fleegel said, I'm having days off view

939
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: to start the season. We lost lost a tough one

940
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Speaker 3: in Kansas City last year, and then we came back

941
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Speaker 3: and ended up losing our home opener to the Raiders.

942
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping we do not have a similar situation like

943
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Speaker 3: last year after the letdown of the first game. I'd,

944
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Speaker 3: you know, be lying if I said that, like those

945
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Speaker 3: memories didn't come back in my mind as well, knowing

946
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Speaker 3: that you played one of the you played the team

947
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: that you lost in the playoffs the year before. In

948
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Speaker 3: Week one you lost a heartbreaker, and then you came

949
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: home and it's the home opener against the team who

950
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: you're heavy favorites, and everyone's picking you to win. And

951
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Speaker 3: so I do think, like my feeling is that the

952
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: memory of last year's game and what happened will help

953
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Speaker 3: the Ravens this week. I think that they will. They

954
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: will be reminding themselves.

955
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Speaker 1: Oh, there will be a lot of talk about last

956
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: year and the Raiders.

957
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: We were in this position last year and we dropped

958
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: the ball against the Raiders. Can't let it happen again.

959
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: I think that will be a talking point for this

960
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: team this week.

961
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Speaker 2: I agree, let's be frank, you know, and we're going

962
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: to talk about the Browns later in this week. But

963
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: the Browns are always a tough out for this team

964
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: like that, and by the way, they should have beaten

965
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Yeah, Like this is a pretty darn good

966
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: team with a good defense led by you know, arguably

967
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Speaker 2: the defense player of the year, Miles Garrett, and so

968
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Speaker 2: I think they're a better team than the Rai Raiders

969
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: were a year ago. Just say that much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So again, we'll talk about that all throughout the

971
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Speaker 3: course of the week, but I do think that that

972
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: storyline is going to be a reminder for the team

973
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Speaker 3: throughout this week. So as always, you can email us

974
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 3: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank

975
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Speaker 3: you so much to everybody who emailed. It is kind

976
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: of funny, like game ends. I always love it after

977
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: a win, so it wasn't quite I wasn't as eager

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Speaker 3: to read the emails this time, but as soon as

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Speaker 3: the clock hit zero, the emails started hitting the inbox

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Speaker 3: and I held off for about twenty four hours for

981
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Speaker 3: diving into them for obvious reasons. But again, we love

982
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Speaker 3: hearing from you, so thank you for this emails. Make

983
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Speaker 3: sure you leave a rating in a review. Thank you

984
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Speaker 3: for listening, and we will be back with you again

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Speaker 3: later this week.