WEBVTT - Tech News: Google Bard Hits a Wrong Note

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And how the tech are you. It's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news for Thursday, February nine, and I almost said Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know what day it is anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to get those AI chat bought news items

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. First thing, these have been obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the big news throughout the beginning of this year. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned earlier this week, both Microsoft and Google

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<v Speaker 1>have launched kind of an invitation only test of their

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<v Speaker 1>respective AI chat bought tools. Microsoft is taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT, that's the chat bought everyone has heard about.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some inferences with the Microsoft version. Standard

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT cannot give up to date responses. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get information about, say the recent earthquake

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<v Speaker 1>in Turkey, for example. The information that chat GPT the

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilla brand draws from is a couple of years old. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft version is able to reference current events, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could ask about stuff that's happening in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's potentially good being able to get us accinct

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<v Speaker 1>summary of what's going on could be a really valuable tool,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can also spell trouble for news organizations. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not getting traffic because people are just getting

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<v Speaker 1>the news from an AI chat butt, that could mean

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<v Speaker 1>that they start seeing less and less revenue and then

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately they could go out of business. Ironically, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the institutions that are creating the data that the chat

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<v Speaker 1>bots able to pull from in the first place. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it could also mean that summary could end up being

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<v Speaker 1>very biased depending upon which news sources the chat bought

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<v Speaker 1>is pulling from when it's formulating a response. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>a far left or far right leaning news source, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not going to get an objective account of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in the news, and so that could

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<v Speaker 1>be a really big problem down the line. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on waitlist for access to the Microsoft version, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you can only access if you're using Microsoft's

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<v Speaker 1>browser Edge, which is you know, obviously an attempt for

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft to try and get some some market share away

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<v Speaker 1>from Google and to claim some of that for their

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<v Speaker 1>own by keeping this being search result AI chat bot

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<v Speaker 1>integration contained to the Edge browser. But anyway, I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the wait list. I have not received access to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have any firsthand experience. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did test out some of the example questions and

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<v Speaker 1>being so you, as a normal user, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to Being through Edge and have some access to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but only by submitting sample questions that have already been written.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did that and what I saw was that

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<v Speaker 1>the results came back where you have search results in

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<v Speaker 1>the main part of the screen on the left hand side,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the right hand column you have the AI

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<v Speaker 1>generated response, so they're side by side. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a wise decision. It means that the search results are

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<v Speaker 1>not outright eliminated. But whether or not folks will go

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<v Speaker 1>beyond AI generated responses and start clicking on links remains

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen. Anyway, Microsoft impressed a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 1>with this announcement and the early access. Now let's contrast

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<v Speaker 1>that with Google, which has had a much rougher week now.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned earlier, Google had sort of rushed its

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<v Speaker 1>own AI chat bot, which is now called Barred, into

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<v Speaker 1>an invitation only beta test earlier this week, in anticipation

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<v Speaker 1>of Microsoft's announcement of chat GPT. Then yesterday Google promoted

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<v Speaker 1>the barred chat butt, but in that outing, the AI

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<v Speaker 1>made a boo boo. So when it was asked to

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<v Speaker 1>list things that the James Webb Space Telescope had managed

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<v Speaker 1>to do so far, the barred AI chat butt included

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet point saying that the James Webb Space Telescope

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<v Speaker 1>took the very first picture of an exo planet, so

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<v Speaker 1>a planet that's outside of our own solar system. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is that's wrong. The very first image of an

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<v Speaker 1>exo planet pre dates the James Webb Space Telescope. It

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<v Speaker 1>happened almost twenty years ago. But Bard presented the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>item as if it were a fact, something that chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT critics have said is a huge problem with chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT as well. In fact, for all these AI applications,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem is that they present information in such

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<v Speaker 1>way that it seems authoritative and definitive, when in fact

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<v Speaker 1>it may be incorrect. Well, Google stock went tumbling, had

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<v Speaker 1>dropped from around a hundred six dollars per share down

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety eight dollars per share, and you might think, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>ten dollars, that's big, but it's not. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>much could that be collectively? Well, collectively, if you measure

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<v Speaker 1>it across all the shares of Google that are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>it means that the company effectively lost a hundred billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in value Yawza, Microsoft Scores and early victory in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chat Bought search wars. Though I would caution anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Redwood from celebrating just yet, as chat gpt is

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<v Speaker 1>very much capable of giving wrong answers with conviction, just

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<v Speaker 1>as Barred has done. It is better to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>stress that these tools are in development, they are not

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<v Speaker 1>trustworthy by a long shot. On a related note, I

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<v Speaker 1>also saw that Kun'lan Tech, the parent company behind the

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<v Speaker 1>web browser Opera, plans to incorporate chat gpt into Opera

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<v Speaker 1>itself in the future. There are scarce details as to

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<v Speaker 1>the extent to which chat gpt will play a role

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<v Speaker 1>in Opera, and I also don't have really any information

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<v Speaker 1>on a timeline for when this could be rolled out,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is interesting that Opera, which is a niche

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<v Speaker 1>web browser, is waiting into this competitive field. Currently, Opera

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<v Speaker 1>ranks as the sixth most popular browser in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and has a market share of two point four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Compare that to Google Chrome. This is the dominant web

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<v Speaker 1>browser in the world and has a sixty five point

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<v Speaker 1>four percent market share, so more than half of all

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<v Speaker 1>web browsers being used our Google Chrome. Now Microsoft is

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to take a serious chunk out of Google because

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<v Speaker 1>again it's chat GPT bing search tool is only available

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using the Edge browser. So we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>see if this changes things, or if in fact chat

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<v Speaker 1>gpt just doesn't have the legs. Vice has a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting article about a very odd quirk chat gpt appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have. The article has the title quote chat gpt

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<v Speaker 1>can be broken by entering these strange words and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is sure why end quote, And yeah, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>summarizes the story. But the strange words in particular appear

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<v Speaker 1>to be user names from places like Reddit and Twitch

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of stuff, and they include stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>solid gold, magic harp, and streamer bought. Researchers discovered a

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<v Speaker 1>bank of around one hundred odd words or user names

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<v Speaker 1>while they were probing chat gpt. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>determine what sort of prompts create the most reliable results,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the process they kind of uncovered this treasure

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<v Speaker 1>trove of bizarre words that chat GPT just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what to do with. Now, chat GPT can

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<v Speaker 1>compose text that will include words that are similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the one hundred or so odd ones that the researchers found,

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<v Speaker 1>but they discovered if they put those actual names into

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<v Speaker 1>a prompt, it would create an odd response from chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, they said that when they submitted streamer bought

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<v Speaker 1>to chat GPT, it replied, you're a jerk. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very funny, but obviously it's also puzzling. What would prompt

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT to call you a jerk just for saying

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<v Speaker 1>streamer bought to it? Other words would either create no

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<v Speaker 1>response at all, or chat GPT would totally misinterpret whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It would not be able to repeat these

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<v Speaker 1>words if you told it to repeat them. Uh. In

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<v Speaker 1>one case, it converted a user name into a number.

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<v Speaker 1>It treated the user name as if it were a number,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you asked questions about the user name, it

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<v Speaker 1>would answer as if it were a number. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>researchers admit they are not sure what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>As the title of the piece suggests, they suspect that

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<v Speaker 1>this could be from open AI using sites like Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>as a data source to crawl through and gather information.

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<v Speaker 1>According to one of these researchers, several of the user

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<v Speaker 1>handles were actually found to be participants in a Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>thread where people in the thread are counting to infinity

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<v Speaker 1>reply by reply, like each reply increases the number by one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why when the researchers asked about the Nitrome

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<v Speaker 1>Fan they discovered the chat GPT interpreted that as the

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<v Speaker 1>number two, like the Nitrome Fan meant two, So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you would have blink the Nitrome Fan as a

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<v Speaker 1>band that I don't really like very much. And sure,

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<v Speaker 1>this might all sound trivial, but the researchers have pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that they want to understand why a chat bought

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<v Speaker 1>might pick certain information over other while creating a response,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of information would cause a chat about to break,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's important to understand and also for us to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better grip on how accurate, reliable, and trustworthy

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<v Speaker 1>the AI is at any given time, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>get insight into the types of sources that the AI

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<v Speaker 1>relies upon important questions to answer. Okay, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. When we come back, we're gonna segue

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<v Speaker 1>away from all this AI stuff and talk about Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. Okay, we're back. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter yesterday, you might have encountered some weirdness going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Some users ended up seeing a message that said you

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<v Speaker 1>are over the daily limit for sending tweets, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they hadn't posted anything up to that point. Twitter does

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<v Speaker 1>in fact have a daily limit on tweets, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a very high limit. I'm talking two thousand, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred messages. There's also a limit on direct messages per

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<v Speaker 1>day that's five hundred, and you're also limited to how

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<v Speaker 1>many people you can follow in a day that's four hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>These policies are largely an effort to stave off particularly

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<v Speaker 1>active spam bots. Your average person is not likely to

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<v Speaker 1>send that many messages. I mean, a hundred messages per

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<v Speaker 1>hour on average is asking a bit much, even for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was certainly strange when users started to get

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<v Speaker 1>message saying they had hit these limits, and it prompted

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that perhaps Twitter was going to impose strict limits

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would have to subscribe to a paid

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter account in order to increase those limits. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it just ended up being a glitch. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that Twitter has made a lot of decisions that would

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<v Speaker 1>lead you to think, oh, they're gonna charge you if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to post more than ten times a day,

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<v Speaker 1>but that does not appear to be the case as

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<v Speaker 1>far as anyone outside of Twitter is where there is

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<v Speaker 1>no plan to do that. So Elon Musk also sent

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<v Speaker 1>out a message to Twitter employees that urged them to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put projects on hold for the moment and

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<v Speaker 1>instead prioritize making sure that Twitter is stable and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's performing properly. He also cited the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Game, you know, the American football big game that

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<v Speaker 1>has a trademark name that I have been told I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot use, is happening this weekend and people are bound

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<v Speaker 1>to be on Twitter talking about all the commercials and

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<v Speaker 1>also the game, because you know, I understand there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who really take those games very seriously. This is

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<v Speaker 1>me not really joking about sports fans. I'm more joking

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<v Speaker 1>about how I'm just a person who never got into sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sports fans who are passionate about the sports

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<v Speaker 1>they love, that's awesome. Um, I just I just am

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<v Speaker 1>not one of them. But it's a big shocking revelation.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you weren't expecting it anyway. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter staff are going to have their hands full keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the ship afloat during one of the busiest days for

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<v Speaker 1>social networks, and that's got to be hard considering the

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<v Speaker 1>reduced workforce that still remains at Twitter. The UK and

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<v Speaker 1>the US have imposed sanctions against leaders in the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>hacker group called trick Mott, which hasn't been as active recently,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the past has been responsible for some massive

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<v Speaker 1>ransomware attacks on vulnerable targets, most notably healthcare facilities. Hackers

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<v Speaker 1>will frequently concentrate on healthcare companies because their services are

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<v Speaker 1>literally matters of life and death, so there's a strong

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<v Speaker 1>incentive for these targets to concede to ransom demands because

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences could be deadly. UK and US officials have

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<v Speaker 1>also alleged that this hacker group has official ties with

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<v Speaker 1>Russian intelligence, which would mean they are a state sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>hacker group. And you might wonder what good sanctions in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK and the US are going to do against

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<v Speaker 1>these hackers who are based out of Russia, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a country that already has heavy sanctions against it for

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<v Speaker 1>numerous reasons, and according to the officials, the goal is

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<v Speaker 1>really to make it harder for the hackers to launder

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<v Speaker 1>money from their ransomware attacks, which would potentially make them

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<v Speaker 1>easier to catch and harder for Russian officials to ignore.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of electric vehicle startup companies called Rivian and

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<v Speaker 1>pole Star recently commissioned a climate study from the consulting

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<v Speaker 1>firm Kearney, and the results of that study prompted the

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<v Speaker 1>startups to announce that the automotive industry needs some serious

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<v Speaker 1>changes beyond the electrification of the vehicles they offer in

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<v Speaker 1>order to make a real DNT in carbon emissions. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've been seeing a lot of companies commit to producing

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<v Speaker 1>more electric vehicles recently, particularly as states and countries are

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<v Speaker 1>passing laws that are going to require all new vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>sold within their borders to be something other than traditional

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engine vehicles. But the startups argue that to

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<v Speaker 1>really make meaningful change, the industry as a whole has

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<v Speaker 1>to address the entire supply chains contribution to greenhouse gas emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>That includes things like the mining of the minerals you

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<v Speaker 1>need in order to make batteries and further that even

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<v Speaker 1>with the electrification of vehicles, we're moving far too slowly

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<v Speaker 1>to meet important goals outlined by the Paris Agreement. The

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<v Speaker 1>report is actually pretty grim. Uh. It sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to meet the Paris goals without a much more

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<v Speaker 1>drastic change than what countries like the United States have

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<v Speaker 1>already committed to, and it's not likely that these countries

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<v Speaker 1>are going to uh increase that commitment. The implications for

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<v Speaker 1>that are really sobering because it means that we will

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<v Speaker 1>fail to limit global warming to a further one point

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<v Speaker 1>five degrees celsius and the impact of climate change will

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<v Speaker 1>be greater because of that. And as the startups are stressing,

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<v Speaker 1>every year that passes with us not doing what is

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<v Speaker 1>necessary means that what is necessary will become even harder

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It will grow and become more imperative for

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<v Speaker 1>us to do something about it. We're really just making

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<v Speaker 1>it harder for ourselves and more importantly, on future generations.

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<v Speaker 1>According to this report, The Wall Street Journal reports that

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<v Speaker 1>users in certain Facebook groups in India have been using

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<v Speaker 1>the platform to offer guns for sale. The groups in

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<v Speaker 1>question are related to an extremist Hindu organization that the

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<v Speaker 1>c i A alleges is connected with violent attacks against

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<v Speaker 1>Muslims in India. Now, private gun sales between citizens is

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<v Speaker 1>a big no no in Facebook's terms of service, and yet,

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<v Speaker 1>when an Indian activist brought these posts to Meta's attention,

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<v Speaker 1>he received a response that said the posts actually didn't

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<v Speaker 1>violate any of Facebook's policies. However, when the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Journal started to ask Meta questions about how that could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be the case, the posts offering guns for sale

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<v Speaker 1>were suddenly removed. Meta essentially said, these posts violated Facebook policies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we take that kind of stuff down when we

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<v Speaker 1>find out about it. Except they had already found out

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<v Speaker 1>about it because the activists had reported it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to insert cricket chirping sound here. Various

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<v Speaker 1>activist groups have long pointed out that Meta's content moderation

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<v Speaker 1>practices have a lot to be desired in many regions

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<v Speaker 1>around the globe, particularly in places where English is not

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant language. And to make matters even stickier for Meta,

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<v Speaker 1>India is home to more than a billion people, and

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of them use Meta products like Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and WhatsApp. So the picture of the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 1>paints is that despite this large user base, Meta really

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<v Speaker 1>is failing to enforce its policies in India. Finally, some

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<v Speaker 1>light news. This week, Nintendo held one of its Nintendo

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<v Speaker 1>Direct events and showed off some upcoming titles, including the

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<v Speaker 1>highly anticipated and delayed sequel to the legend of Zelda

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<v Speaker 1>game Breath of the Wild. The sequel is called Tears

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<v Speaker 1>of the King, and Nintendo released a trailer to give

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<v Speaker 1>players a hint of what to expect, and it looks real,

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<v Speaker 1>moody and epic. Y'all. You get a real Lord of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rings s ron kind of vibe going with the

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<v Speaker 1>the villain and uh saying that the entire kingdom of

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<v Speaker 1>High Rule is going to get wiped out. And we

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<v Speaker 1>get some shots of Link in action doing cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like writing a quad copter like device and fighting various monsters,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as some cut scene clips. And we also

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<v Speaker 1>got the release date of May twelve of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks pretty cool now. I say that as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who hasn't played a Zelda game since Okarina of

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<v Speaker 1>Time that was my last one because I'm old. Nintendo

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<v Speaker 1>also announced a remaster of Metroid Prime that's available on

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<v Speaker 1>the Shop, the digital store for the Nintendo Switch right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo also announced that Switch Online players will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to access a library of games that were originally designed

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<v Speaker 1>for the game Boy and the game Boy Advance. That

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<v Speaker 1>really takes me back. You could finally play Tetris the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was meant to be played a k a.

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<v Speaker 1>The way I played it. Nintendo announced several other titles

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<v Speaker 1>and releases, and you should definitely pop online when you

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<v Speaker 1>can and find the full presentation. If you're a big

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo fan, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. That's it for

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<v Speaker 1>the news for Thursday, February nine. I hope you are

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