1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to jags HQ presented by Fresh from Florida. JP 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Shadrick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman sit down each week 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: with the decision makers of your Jacksonville Jaguars. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna bring you a product that you all can 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: be prouder with that game. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: On jags HQ presented by Fresh from Florida starts right now. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: Well commented. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: It is jags HQ presented by Fresh from Florida from 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 4: the Hyundai Studios. We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 4: by the University of Florida, number one university in the 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: US News and World Reports, number one state for education. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: JP Shadrick with Jeff Flagman, the Jaguars and the Texans 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 4: coming up in week ten in org Stadium, Houston, the 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: site Jaguars EVP Tony Vasselli joining us in studio now, 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: after another busy week for the Jags. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: In the front office, Tony, how are you? What's up? Oh? 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 5: Good? 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 6: Doing good? 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Philly, look good? 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 7: Do we got a finable offense here? For Gladston being late? 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 6: Oh, he might be busy. I don't know if I'll 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 6: be working on stuff. You never know what he's doing. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 6: As a mystery. 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: Trade deadline is already passed, so that's not going on 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: trade anybody because he's just too late for that. 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: Oh. 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 4: Here he is, James Gladstone making his way into the studio, 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: Jaguars general manager. 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: Welcome in, James, fresh off a lap. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Oh here, you had to sprint the last phase and 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: that I was going to be a little late back. 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: It's been a busy week in this Jaguars front office. 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: Let's begin with the effort and the grit and the 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: win in Las Vegas with I mean the injury report 35 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: going into the game, but then end game. 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: Guys are dropping. 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: You're bringing guys who were on a practice squad into 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: the lineup in the fourth quarter and overtime, and it 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: just showed some resiliency from this football team preach. 40 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: I think that was something that, you know, thinking back 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: to a lot of our discussions that took place in 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: preseasons games, what's our response look like when things don't 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: go perfect? 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: You know? 45 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: And I think that was a great reflection of so 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: many players responding the right way, our coaching staff responding 47 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: the right way. 48 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 8: It did take everybody that. 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Was on the grass to bring that to life, you know, obviously, 50 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: on the final play of the game, we had some 51 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: errors and luckily we got somebody who stepped up and 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: was able to make a play I mean without divine 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: in that situation, I mean floating right. 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 7: Can we can we measure that vertical? 55 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the hang time was the impressive 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: peace in that one. He was definitely hovering to oh yeah, levitating. 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a phenomenal moment. 58 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 8: Certainly gave everyone a chance to you know, maybe pause. 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 7: Literally I'm looking at the open guys, God, oh my god, 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, frank, you. 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: Know, it's blocked. 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 7: It's blocked. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, by whom I had no idea? 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think, But so many great moments to 65 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: look at in that game as meaningful, impactful in the outcome. Obviously, 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: to be able to have a point on the board 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: going into half and having a kick from Cam that 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, shook a lot of folks for us in 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: the right way. 70 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 8: For others, it allowed us. 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: Just a little bit of an edge that we needed 72 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: going into halftime. And you know, I think that even 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the decision to call a time out right when Liam 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: did early on that drive was really impressive because there 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: are plenty of people that may have decided otherwise. You know, hey, yes, 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: stop for a short gain, so let's just take it 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: to halftime. Right, That's a that's a very smart decision 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: at that moment. 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I want to point out that the long completion, 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 7: I think it was like seventeen eighteen yards to Parker, 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 7: the way that he came back to the ball, it's 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 7: great play by him. I did in a film room 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 7: this week. Was just a savvy, veteran smart play by park. 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: That was everything we needed in that moment. You know, 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't perfect in any sense, but guys were out 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: there making plays. They were above the x's and o's 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: and so many different instances across the board in all 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: three phases, and you know, those are the types of 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: wins that you look back. 90 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 8: On and you're certainly. 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Glad to be in that column right the left column. 92 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: But coming into the season, the emphasis was in one 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: score games, how do we learn to win and what 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: are some of the things that we can do in 95 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: order to make it so that when our best is required, 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: were showing up and we're not at the end of 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: the season looking back saying those were still hurdles for 98 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: us to overcome. 99 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't recall. 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 7: In my time in the NFL to where a field 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 7: goal seemed to ignite a team. I mean it felt 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 7: like that. I mean, would you guys say the same thing. 103 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 5: Oh, I thought it was a critical, critical moment. I'll 104 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: be honest with you. 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't have called time out if I was 106 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 6: the coach after that short game, probably would have said, hey, 107 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 6: get let's just get into half in regroup. It was 108 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 6: bad first half because nothing was going our way at 109 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 6: the long drive ended, the interception after you know, first 110 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: and goal on the one and so nothing positive. That 111 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 6: gives Liam a ton of credit for fighting through the 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 6: final whistle of the first half and then just to 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: have the guts, the ability or a kicker who has 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 6: the ability to hit from sixty eight. 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: I mean I think that God everyone's used. 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it felt like being in the stadium from 117 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 6: a very melancholy kind of down thirty or twenty nine 118 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 6: minutes and fifty four seconds to the last six seconds 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 6: of like oh my, let's go, like we're ready. 120 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 5: You could feel it, you could sense it. 121 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 6: So it was a big, big time kick and it 122 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 6: does take some guts because paying attention to raiders have 123 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 6: a return guy back there, yea, yeah, you have to 124 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 6: have confidence your guy can at least get it through 125 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: the end zone, because if not, you now have. 126 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: A bunch of Boselli's covered, a bunch. 127 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: Of chasing down a returner. We've seen many times by 128 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 6: the way JP's lived it with the iron ball. 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: Well, the Jags lifted here. 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 6: That's exactly right, and so that's a dangerous play in 131 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 6: the confidence in cam by Liam and Heath especially coordinator 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 6: and the whole team, and for him to deliver there, 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 6: that's big. 134 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 7: And the execution of the clock play after the completion 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 7: to Parker Washington, the way Parker got up, ran the 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 7: ball right back to the official right where it needed 137 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 7: to be, you know, and hands it to Hansey hands 138 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 7: he puts it down. The official literally just touched the balls. 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 7: He didn't even move it, And I mean that was 140 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 7: just something. 141 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: And there's no time out, so yet your field goal 142 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: unit coming on and you're gonna have to kick right away. 143 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get lined up, make sure everybody 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: squared away, because you don't have a time out to 145 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: work with in order to make that train this or 146 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: everybody's in a little bit of a hurry. 147 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: Excellent play, Tony Poselli, James Gladstone with us on JAG's HQ. Well, 148 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers was playing on the other side on Sunday 149 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: for the Las Vegas Raiders, and three days later he's 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: in the Jaguars locker room after the trade. 151 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Two draft picks going to Vegas. 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: Fourth and sixth rounder next year to bring in Jacoby Myers, 153 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: a guy who was an undrafted player coming out Patriots Raiders. 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: Seems super consistent catching the football, and now how difficult 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: is this? And then take us through first the trade itself, 156 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: when did it begin, How busy was the deadline for 157 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: you this year? And then how'd you come to the 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: deal with. 159 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: Jacoby? 160 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's a lot there. 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: I'll certainly try and work in at your cadence, But 162 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: I know, just going back to one of the first elements, right, 163 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: the idea of Jacoby going from West coast to East coast, 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: operating on a totally different internal clock. Right, so he arrives, 165 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: let's just give everybody an idea on Wednesday morning. 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: Right, okay, red ife flight, Yeah. 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: I should say this Wednesday night, arrives at the facility 168 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning for his physical job. So he gets up 169 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: at five am for a physical. That's two am West Coast. 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 6: Time after landing in Jacksonville PM Tuesday night. 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 8: So let's then we got a full work day. 172 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So passes the physical, he's into the team meeting, 173 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: He's now into position meetings, group meetings, walk through practice 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: before he ever ends his day. Right, great walkthrough, great practice, 175 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: very efficient. But to go through the whirlwind of looking 176 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: across and you're wait a minute, I'm actually in a 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: practice session with the same guy that was covering me 178 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: forty eight hours ago in Las Vegas. This is an 179 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: odd sensation, right, this is a weird feeling. So not 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: only are you going through the physical elements, but now 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: you're going through this some version of a spin right, Yeah, 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: twilight zone where you're like, what the heck is. 183 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 7: Going You're not mentioning what what he has to go 184 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: through to get out of Vegas to get here. I mean, 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 7: you know, throwing something in a suitcase and then leaving behind. 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 8: How much do you actually have with you? 187 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's not plenty two hours after you found. 188 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: Out, Right, it moves fast, There's no doubt about it, 189 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: but I can any. 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 7: Service that helps people kind of do that. You know, Hey, NFL, 191 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 7: I got traded. 192 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: You know. 193 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: My stuff operations staff that they go full support mode 194 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: and do what they can to make it as seamless 195 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: as possible, knowing it's just a it's an imperfect science, 196 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: but nonetheless, uh, in the lead up to any any 197 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: trade deadline, there are general conversations that happen with every 198 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: front office. The conversation specific to Jakobe didn't actually truly 199 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: come to life until day after our game and any 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: sort of movement, offer, discussion, negotiation, all that kind of 201 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: stuff happened then to become official until Tuesday about what 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: was it mid morning or so. I don't know the 203 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: exact time, but that was roughly the timeline behind a 204 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: lot of that conversation. And I think a big reason 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: as to why we prioritized Jacoby at this stage was 206 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: certainly going through symmetriction at the wide receiver position. As 207 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: of right now, Jacoby is someone who certainly has a 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: specialized skill set in terms of the consistency in which 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: he catches the ball. We've been having an issue there. 210 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: You got to feel like, oh, if there's an opportunity 211 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: to address that with somebody who's very gifted in that arena, 212 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: why not discuss it, work through it, try to bring 213 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: it to life, and so certainly feel good from that 214 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: lens beyond it. 215 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 8: Know through many. 216 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Avenues what he's like as a human being, what he's 217 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: like as a teammate. We've had eb who spent time 218 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: with him in Las Vegas. Coach that's right, and so 219 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: some of those items helped. Okay, obviously bringing him in 220 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: at the midpoint of the season, what's the acclamation period 221 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: going to look like? You have intimate knowledgey be on 222 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: on what his capacity is mentally, how seamless of a 223 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: transition that could be, or what verbage may need to 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: be bridged. 225 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 8: In order to accelerate that transition. 226 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: And so you work through a lot of that and 227 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: the lead up to make sure that this isn't something 228 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: that you feel like gonna take too long before we 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: actually reap the rewards or impact of And I think 230 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: it was pretty clear to see through the first couple 231 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: of practices that you know, we probably see a strong 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: match in terms of system and skill from him as 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: a as a player. Look forward to seeing that come 234 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: to life when the lights are brightest, but certainly through 235 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: the first forty eight hours, it feels like it was 236 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: a strong decision. 237 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 7: I would imagine when you trade for a player of 238 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 7: mid season, I mean, intelligence has got to be a 239 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 7: big factor, just because the ability to pick up his 240 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 7: system and hit the ground running. Otherwise you're really not 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 7: going to get benefit from that player for how long 242 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 7: it takes. I mean, you know, and prior to the 243 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 7: Raiders game, I actually was watching some of the interviews 244 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 7: on the Raiders website and happened to come across a 245 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 7: couple of the Jacobi Meyer clips where he was being interviewed. 246 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 7: Super intelligent guy, at least he comes off that way 247 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 7: in the interviews that he had super aware and the 248 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 7: way he handled that whole request of wanting to be traded. 249 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 7: I don't know if I've ever seen a player handle 250 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: that situation which he's let it be known that he'd 251 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 7: like to be traded. I've never seen a player handle 252 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 7: it as classy as he did in that situation. And 253 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 7: I'm not trying to blow smoke because he's a Jaguar Now. 254 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 7: I'd say the same thing if he was still with 255 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 7: the Raiders. I mean, I was impressed I mean, it 256 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 7: really stuck. Obviously, it's out to me and it stuck 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 7: with me just because he impressed me by watching that. 258 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: I think that says a lot about who he is obviously, 259 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, to project that to move the way that 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: he did despite it being a challenging situation, it says 261 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: a lot. And I think obviously you see the real 262 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: root of humans when you're going through an adverse moment. 263 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: We got to see that from Afar in Jacob in particular, 264 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: because it wasn't all picture perfect, right and he was 265 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: still able to do his thing and move in a 266 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: professional manner. We know we're going to go through some 267 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: adverse moments here the rest of the season. It's not 268 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: going to be picture perfect the rest of the way, 269 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: and hopefully he can continue to showcase that and we 270 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: feel the benefits. 271 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 8: Of it all. 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: Ruys, let's come back and we'll dig into the Houston Texans. 273 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: Let's do that, and the matchup in week ten at 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: AFC South showed out the most important game in franchise history. 275 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: Because it is the one, it's the next one. It's 276 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: pretty important. 277 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 8: JP. 278 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: It certainly is, and this is Jagg's HQ on the 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 4: Jaguars Radio Network. 280 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 3: Welcome Back. 281 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Jaggs HQ presented by Fresh from Florida continues right now. 282 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: JP Shatterick with Jeff Logovan joined by Tony Vassellia James 283 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: Gladstone from the Hyundai studios of the mill Or Electric Center. 284 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: It's Jaggs HQ presented by Fresh from Florida. 285 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 7: Guess, Jeff, all right before we move on to the Texans, 286 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 7: any other chatter and trade circles you know that interested 287 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 7: you or did you get any phone calls from people saying, hey, uh, James, 288 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 7: can we get this guy maybe for something? 289 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 290 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 8: You know, there was plenty of chatter. 291 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: Nobody asking in any official way are any of your 292 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: other players available? Going down those paths? We shut those 293 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: down if they did come up. And I think beyond that, 294 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: it was certainly interesting to see the rest of the 295 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: the landscape of the league and the trades unfold, especially 296 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: we in closer and closer to the buzzer, so to speak. 297 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 8: A lot of big moves. 298 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: A lot of first round picks, So that was that 299 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: was certainly entertaining, especially if you're a fan, But even 300 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: just being a part of the day in a real 301 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: way was was certainly an energizing moment in time, and uh, 302 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: I know it was certainly invigorating just to see that, Hey, 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: this isn't the league isn't stagnant, right, this isn't a 304 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: time in which the league has gone dormant during the 305 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: trade deadline, and teams are doing their part to feel 306 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: like they're making their team or their organization or setting 307 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: making their team better or setting their organization up for 308 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: the future, uh, in a real way. And I think 309 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: that that offers Uh, you know, a lot of positives 310 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: have how how to. 311 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 7: Black does the league know? I mean, do you do 312 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 7: you have like a like, is there a list of 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 7: all GM's phone numbers? You guys can say hey, so 314 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 7: you can get access to all these guys. Or they're 315 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 7: a message board. Hey man, I got this guy. He's available. 316 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 7: Anybody want to come and you know, take a look. 317 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 8: For wild wile auctions. 318 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 7: Have a message board for the. 319 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: I mean that certainly would make things a little more efficient, 320 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: but you probably build up the rollodex over the course 321 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: of let's say, gms who have been in the seat 322 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: for quite some time are going to have anybody who's 323 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: been in the positions numbers. You end up getting those 324 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: contacts over the course of an off season in season 325 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: when you're together, so it's it becomes rather easy to 326 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: just pick up the phone and have a conversation, Hey, 327 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: is there anything you guys are looking for positionally? Is 328 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: there anything that you guys are are looking to maybe 329 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: shed positionally and then go from there. So it's usually 330 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: general and it gets more specific. It's conversations message I 331 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: would there's no doubt. 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: Imagine the back and forth on those things. No way 333 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: to be wild battles. 334 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: I got first, keep on going up like. 335 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: An auction right, Texans Jaguars coming up this Sunday. 336 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: Can you imagine second matchup? 337 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: Jaggs looking to sweep the season series against the Houston Texans, 338 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: who have injury issues of their own and namely quarterback 339 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: c J. Stroud in the concussion protocol. So Davis Mills 340 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: will get the start. He had some starts against this team. 341 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: It's been a few years. How different is Davis Mills 342 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: than c J. Stroud in terms of skill set? 343 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: Usually you're going to see some version of differentiation between 344 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: QB one and QB two. What I do know is 345 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: Davis stepped in last week and kept them as a 346 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: competitive football team versus a very challenging team in the 347 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. He came in the same year as Nico Collins, 348 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: so they have built up rapport just naturally with time 349 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: spent together, even dating back to let's call it that 350 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: offseason where rookies are playing with rookies and both of 351 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: them are growing, so you know that there's gonna be 352 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: something that they can sort of tap into from synergy standpoint, 353 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: time on tasks together. 354 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 8: He's gonna be a little. 355 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Less mobile than what we saw in CJ, but that 356 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it stops in the pocket. 357 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 8: He was able to extend some last week, and. 358 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: I know that there's a point of emphasis from them 359 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: to do so as they inch towards a starting situation 360 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: for him. So it's certainly got to be something that 361 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: we take into consideration. But when it comes to throwing 362 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: the football, operating their offense efficiently, I think it was 363 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: very vivid that even last week without any preparation, as 364 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: QB one in the lead up, he's more than qualified 365 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: to put points on the board. 366 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 6: He started a lot of games and he's won games, 367 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: So I mean, this is a guy you gotta you 368 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: gotta go play good defense. You know, they they want 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 6: to run the ball. That made it clear about that 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 6: what he marks their rookies kind of taken over that 371 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 6: top spot of running the ball, and he's done a 372 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 6: great job. Uh and so we really liked coming to 373 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 6: last year's draft, he's I really liked him. 374 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: He's an s C guy, so I know. 375 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 6: But they and they got they got the best defense 376 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 6: in the NFL right now. Any every statistical measuring, data point, 377 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 6: data point you'd measure, it's they're the best. 378 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 7: I think Davis mill is the only team he has 379 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: a winning record against the Jaguars. 380 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: There you go. So we got to change to one. 381 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 7: And he's only got five career wins, so I mean 382 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 7: he's gotta be. 383 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: You gotta do something about it. 384 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 5: Change that. 385 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be nice. 386 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd trending the right way to get back on 387 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: the lineup, which is good. 388 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a fair way to phrase it. 389 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 390 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: I got to have him back and obviously impactful early 391 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: in the season. Have missed his presence lots. 392 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 7: I I was watching him warm up before the game 393 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 7: in Vegas and I was like, he looks ready to me. 394 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: You were, just like everybody else that saw him yeah, 395 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: last week, I would say, you don't want to put 396 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: a player into a situation when it's high risk, higher 397 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: risk than when they would typically be out on the field. 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: So that was some version of he looks ready, feels ready. 399 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: We got a long season ahead of it, Ockle, so 400 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: that is kind of understand that. Yes, definitely the injury 401 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: associated with it, and just how they can play the 402 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: mind game on you, so to speak, and they can linger. 403 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: So let's not put ourselves in a position where that 404 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: could be the case. Despite us feeling good about where 405 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: he's at and where he's trending, and it was the 406 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: same for Tim Patrick. You know, he looked good, he 407 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: felt good. We have to be cognizant of the fact 408 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: that we got a long season still in front of us, 409 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: and we're going to need both of them at full 410 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: health coming back so that they're not at higher risk 411 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: for reaggravation, which is where they were at ahead of 412 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: that game. And so I think both of those guys 413 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: are certainly going to put us in a better spot 414 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: than when we wore last week having them both in 415 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: the fray and certainly looking forward to Devin's energy, he 416 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: was able to bring more than just the plays on 417 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: the grass. 418 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 8: He was leading the charge for our. 419 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: Locker room conversations are on field conversations, huddling up the group, 420 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: getting things going. 421 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 8: Before the forty nine ers game. 422 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: I mean he is a spark plug for that defensive unit, 423 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: for the team as a whole. And so I know 424 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: that the players coach is alike or all jack to 425 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: see him back. 426 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 8: In a helmet. 427 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think he also has a big impact 428 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 7: on your pressure package. 429 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: For he's your best blitz of lineback. 430 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: Price you have and understanding, Yeah. 431 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 7: Super athletic and so when you want to fix it up, 432 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 7: I mean he's a great guy to be able to 433 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: send if you want to drop an end of his 434 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 7: own dog or true blitz's right. 435 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know he's a guy. 436 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 6: Well, I think going back to what James said, because 437 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: it's always important because I know fans are always wondering, like, hey, 438 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: when these days they get back, they want to get back, 439 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 6: And then you see a guy like Devin working out 440 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 6: the way he is, like why is he he playing? 441 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 6: But I think it speaks to the coordination between the 442 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 6: medical staff and we have a great team led by 443 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 6: Jeff Ferguson ferg and Kaplan, and they do a great 444 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 6: job of cordating because the players always want to come back, 445 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 6: and this is why I love about this locker room. 446 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 6: They want to be on the field and so they're 447 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 6: pushing to come back. And this is the coordination between 448 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: the medical staff, the player, coaching staff, front office already 449 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 6: working together of keeping the player's health first and foremost 450 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 6: in mind. 451 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 7: I always want to hold him back as opposed to 452 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 7: having a push guy. 453 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 6: And then and then long term of what it means 454 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 6: for the individual player and the club. And so these 455 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 6: are guys Tim Patrick and Devin Lloyd. 456 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 8: Who were fighting, chomping at the time to get back 457 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 8: on the field. 458 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: Began began like in showing. 459 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 6: In practice in situations like I'm ready to go. And 460 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 6: this is where I really appreciate the leadership of the 461 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: Ferg Kaplan coordination with Liam James and myself talking through 462 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 6: this anario, what's best for the player, what's best for 463 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 6: the organization. 464 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 5: Let's do that. 465 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 6: Let's not just take a short term version, make a 466 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: short term decision that could have an impact of the 467 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 6: player at US as a club long term. And so 468 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 6: I think like how was handled, but at the same 469 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: time itching to get Devin back out there and looking 470 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 6: forward to see him out there against the Texans. 471 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: Let's return and dig into this Texans defense and especially 472 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: in the trenches, the matchup with the Jaguars offensive line 473 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: this week against the Texans defensive front. This is Jags 474 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: HQ on Jaguars Radio. 475 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaggs HQ presented by Fresh from Florida. Continues 476 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: right now. 477 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: Welcome back, JP Shatick, f Logohm, Tony Vasseli, James Gladstone 478 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: in the studio with us. 479 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: It's Jaggs HQ. 480 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 5: All right. 481 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 7: So a lot of people have been asking me how's 482 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 7: Travis Hunter? So I'll ask you, guys, how's Travis Hunter. 483 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's progressing well. I know, he's in good spirits 484 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: and continuing to assess. 485 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 8: I think over the. 486 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: Course of the next week or so, we should have 487 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: a firm grip on really timetable next steps, etc. But 488 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: we're still in that window of time where we're assessing 489 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: and making sure that he's put in the best position 490 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: to return to who he is as a football player. 491 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 8: And that's really good. 492 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: All right, There you have it, and now let's look 493 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 4: ahead to the Texans on defense, especially this is where 494 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: last game Week three, I mean the physicality in the 495 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 4: trenches was really where this game was won. The Jaguars 496 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: in the first half couldn't run the ball eleven rushing 497 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: yards and then found a way to run the ball 498 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: in the second half. Most of the rushing yards there 499 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: ran for the touchdown there about a minute and a 500 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: half to go to take the lead and win the game. 501 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: And Jags defense had takeaway certainly on the other side, 502 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: but the Jags offensive line against this defensive front. For 503 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: the Texans, this is where it's one and lost. 504 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 6: Tony right, Well, it's always one and loss in the trenches. 505 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 6: That's where the game. That's where you got to control 506 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 6: line line of scrimmage. It's where you kind of have 507 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 6: your physical presence be shown. And it's one of the 508 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 6: pillars what we believe, it's one of the pillars which 509 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 6: the Texans believe. They were trying to be the more 510 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: physical football team, the tougher physically and mentally football team 511 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 6: on the grass every Sunday, and so that does not change. 512 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 6: We're facing a very good opponent who is a great 513 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 6: defense front to back. They got a strong front seven, 514 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: they got two ends that are both Pro Bowl level 515 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 6: top ends and both the running and pass. They got 516 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: a good backers, they got two of the best corners 517 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: in football. They got an aggressive Nickel and Petrie. I mean, 518 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 6: they got from front to back. They are stacked at 519 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 6: every level. And so for us, we got to just 520 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: go out and bs because we're very confident also in 521 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 6: our guys, confident offense line, We're confidence in our backs, 522 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 6: We're confidence in the game plan that hey, we're gonna 523 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 6: go out there, we're gonna be us, We're gonna run 524 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 6: the ball, protect and kind of let the chips fall 525 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 6: with them and see who the more physical team is. 526 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 6: I think the more physical team will win on Sunday. 527 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 6: That's kind of the brand of football that both teams 528 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: want to play, and we'll find out who can execute 529 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 6: it better. 530 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 7: Kind of wild how the last matchup they you guys 531 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: come out and then they match up with a five 532 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 7: man front, And I think partly one of the reasons 533 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 7: why they can do that they feel ultra confident because 534 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 7: of the two corners that they have. Because Derek Stingley 535 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 7: junior good player, got a big contract extension. But I 536 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 7: don't know if Kamari last or ain't better. 537 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 8: Kamari is a true football player. 538 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: He's physical, there's. 539 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 8: No doubt about it. 540 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: And you know so often corners can can just be 541 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: touted for their coverage capacity. But I mean, he fits 542 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: the runs as best as anybody at the position. And 543 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: you feel his presence, his play, energy, his demeanor, it 544 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: jumps out. Got a lot of respect for how he operates, 545 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: how he moves, and he's always going to be a 546 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: tough task for anybody that's lined up across from him. 547 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: But like Tony said, got a lot of confidence in 548 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: our group that's walking out onto the field knowing that 549 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: we can operate at a high tich and it's gonna 550 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: be a fun ball game to observe because everybody's gonna 551 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: want to go get. 552 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: It all right. 553 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 7: Tony will Anderson Junior arguably the best edge player in 554 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 7: the league as far as like run and pass. Who 555 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 7: would you compare him to who a guy that you faced. 556 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 6: That's a good one. He's probably the body top and 557 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: style of like a Michael McCrary. Wants to start with power. 558 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 6: Everything's off the ball, speed to power not He's not 559 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: a huge man. He's two hundred and fifty five, yeah, 560 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: sixty pounds, so he's not. Well, he's at a big end, 561 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 6: but he plays much more powerful than his than his 562 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 6: body size. 563 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: Plays like he's two eighty. 564 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So if you look at 565 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 6: I think he's listed on the sheet right what. 566 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 7: Six, yeah, six four two three they listed him. 567 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's two fifty, but he plays like two 568 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: seventy five to eighty, and he can stack ends, he 569 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 6: can bowl, rush, he's got off the ball, he's able 570 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 6: to get edges, he's a tenacious player, he's a great 571 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 6: he's just a really good football player. 572 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: So he's got to match the guy I was thinking 573 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 7: of just because of how he plays. 574 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 6: It, and he was actually the same, and he was 575 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 6: the same size, two fifty, got some length to him, 576 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 6: comes downhill speed, the bulls never going to be out 577 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 6: of the play. And you just respect guys like Will 578 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: Anderson in his style of play because it's he has 579 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 6: the talent. But I think probably his superpower is probably 580 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: his competitive spirit, his toughness more than anything. 581 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter and the other side has been at it 582 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: for such a long time. 583 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 6: Just store of an edge player, Uh, maybe a little 584 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 6: bit more refined as the athlete can very slippery, can 585 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: get Edges and equally you know, different style player, different 586 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: style rusher, but can play both running pass and is 587 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 6: equally dangerous to mess up a game if you let. 588 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 7: Him one hundred and three and a half career sacks 589 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 7: and his eleventh year, he's amazing. That's like great seven 590 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 7: active guys, one hundred plus sacks. 591 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: He's great player. Hall of Famer, great player, Hall of Fame. 592 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 4: Numbers Jaguars, Texans, AFC South Battle NRG Stadium, Houston. The 593 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: Jags trying to sweep the season series, improve to six 594 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 4: and three, and then then it's onto the next week. 595 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: The Chargers. 596 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure who we played. 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: We'll get to them next ye you're not even worried 598 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: about it. 599 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: I love that most important game in the history of 600 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: the franchise this. 601 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: Week, JP, I'm like you, guys, I don't even look 602 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 7: real Chargers. 603 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: Is that right? I'll fill you in later. 604 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: No idea on the skets that we got the Texas Sunday, 605 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: one o'clock Eastern, twelve o'clock Central. You're right in Houston, 606 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: in Houston, that's where all be. 607 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: So it's twelve o'clock, Tony, Thanks James, thank you very much, 608 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: appreciate the insight as always appreciate you game. James Gladstone, 609 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: Tony Boselli joining us here on JAG's HQ. 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JP Shadrick 618 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Jeff Logman are thanks to James Gladstone and Tony BUSSELLI 619 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: good breakdown of how the trade went down for Jacobe 620 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: Myers Jaguars Now Jaguars receiver was with the Raiders and 621 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: kind of came into play once the Jaguars were so 622 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: banged up at wide receiver coming out of that game 623 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: in Vegas, and they made the deal on Tuesday. 624 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: I think the some of the planets got a kind 625 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 7: of a line for obviously for trades to happen. I 626 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 7: was watching before the game in Vegas that I believe 627 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 7: it was bite. The GM for the Raiders was having 628 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 7: an extended conversation with Tony and James on the field. 629 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 7: But you know, according to them, that conversation didn't even 630 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 7: evolve obviously, Jacob Jacob Myers, because at that time they 631 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 7: didn't realize they're going to have this glaring. 632 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: Need for right. 633 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, so so yeah, so I'm glad it happened. I mean, 634 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 7: and look forth in six round picks for what could 635 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: be a one year rental can be pricey. But the 636 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 7: Jaguars had I think thirteen picks prior to that trade, 637 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 7: now still have eleven, so you have That's one of 638 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 7: the reasons why you like to have. 639 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: The picks is you can do things like that. 640 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 4: And you know what, he worked at a place that 641 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: said bleep those picks and then later had some picks, 642 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: so he's had it both ways. 643 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 644 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 7: Well, the draft is the lifeblood of every franchise, and 645 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 7: the Rams have been really good at getting value for 646 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 7: those picks, and so you don't want to f them 647 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: pick too much, you know what I mean, you gotta 648 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 7: have them for SIU. Sure, they got two third round 649 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: pick outstanding pass rushers, right, A couple of years ago, 650 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 7: and so I'm sitting there thinking, Okay, we've got some 651 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 7: third rounders. Don't trade any of them, don't trade the seconds. 652 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: Keep them. Yeah, they'll need those. 653 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: Moving ahead, we're gonna come back in a moment, we'll 654 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: dig deeper into the Texans with Mark Vandermere, the voice 655 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 4: of the Texans, joining us to discuss the top defense 656 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: in the league and what does it look like without 657 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: c J. 658 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: Stroud. It's Jags HQ on Jaguars Radio. 659 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Jaggs HQ, presented by Fresh fromk Florida continues 660 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: right now. 661 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back, it is jags h QJP. Shatwick with you. 662 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: Jeff Logman returns in a few moments. Mark Vandermere, the 663 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 4: voice of the Houston Texans. They have the top defense 664 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: in the league with the offenses without quarterback c J. 665 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: Stroud this week in concussion protocol. So I asked him 666 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: earlier today, what's the Davis Mills experience going to look like? 667 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 9: Well, this is a Class of twenty one reunion. 668 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: JP. 669 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 9: You know you got Trevor Lawrence and Davis Mills going 670 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 9: at it now. Mills was a third round pick, of course, 671 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 9: not the fanfare of Trevor Lawrence. But Mills is four 672 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 9: to five and one versus the AFC South in his career, 673 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 9: so there's something. I mean, it's not a great record, 674 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 9: it's not a winning record, but it's a record. And 675 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 9: Mills has twenty five starts in his career. This will 676 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 9: be starting number twenty six, so he's played a lot 677 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 9: of football. When he came into the game last Sunday, 678 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 9: it had been a while. 679 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: You know. 680 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 9: He played well in the finale against Tennessee last year. 681 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 9: Didn't play the first drive of the game. They just 682 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 9: want to get CJ going in that game, and then 683 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 9: Mills played well the rest of the way pretty well, 684 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 9: And I think that Mills has got a lot going 685 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 9: for him when he's got the full cup of soup, 686 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 9: you know, a full week of practice prep all of it. 687 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 9: He talked about, Yeah, he's mentally ready every week, but 688 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 9: the speed of the game is just something that he's 689 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 9: got to get used to. So he wasn't able to 690 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 9: be at his best against Therocos, So maybe it's a 691 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 9: lot better against the Jaguars. But he's not the only 692 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 9: guy who's baged up, so we'll see how it goes. 693 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: Can they run the football to help him. How's the 694 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: offensive line play been and all that. 695 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, and Chubb started the week hurt, so you don't 696 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 9: know about him. Woody Mars has been really good for them, 697 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 9: and I like Woody Marks getting more touches. Actually after 698 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 9: that there's a drop off. But Damian Pierce, you know, 699 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 9: we've seen some good things. The best run of his 700 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 9: career is against the Jags, as you know, in twenty 701 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 9: twenty two. So it wasn't a long run, but it 702 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 9: was an angry run. It one angry run of the 703 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 9: year on NFL Network. So you never know how this 704 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 9: is going to go. With the running game. I think 705 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 9: that they'll be committed to try it. It's tough against 706 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 9: the Jaguars, but they have to try it because if 707 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 9: it's just Mills throwing all the time. And I thought 708 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 9: they might have thrown it a little too much down 709 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 9: the stretch against Denver because it was just a slim 710 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 9: margin you were dealing with. They were never down more 711 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 9: than three points in that one in the second half. 712 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 9: So I think that they'll attempt to run the ball 713 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 9: well JP and you know, maybe Damien's got something left, 714 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 9: but what he has a whole lot to offer they 715 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 9: just have to find a way to pave some holes 716 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 9: for him, to make some holes for him with the 717 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 9: guys up front, and they've got injuries there too, so 718 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 9: we'll see how it goes. 719 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: Mark Vandermer, voice of the Houston Texans with us and 720 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 4: a big reason why it could be a low scoring 721 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 4: affair as it. 722 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: Was last time. 723 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: Is this Texans defense ranked number one in the National 724 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: Football League. 725 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 3: How different are they from Week three? 726 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 9: They've really found their stride and they played good defense 727 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 9: against the Jags. I really feel that way. I know 728 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 9: the final drive it wasn't there. But this Texans offense 729 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 9: has been really challenged and the defense is on the 730 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 9: field a lot. The Texans offense against the Jags the 731 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 9: first meeting, you know, it was turnover city in the 732 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 9: fourth quarter. 733 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 8: I mean, my gosh. 734 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 9: You know, if you just hang out to the ball 735 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 9: and kick a field goal or two, you might win 736 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 9: that game as opposed to just coughing it up and 737 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 9: donating it back to the Jaguars. 738 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 5: And they know that. 739 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 9: But this defense last week against Denver got off the 740 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 9: field again and again and again and again, and with 741 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 9: the Davis Mills led off defense, they look pretty good. 742 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 9: When CJ first went out in the first half, Mills 743 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 9: was moving the team a little bit, but it was 744 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 9: field goals, not touchdowns. And then in the second half 745 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 9: you had zero for seven and third down a lot 746 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 9: of three and outs. It just didn't work, and it 747 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 9: just felt like a monumental task to get first downs. 748 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 9: So I believe that this is definitely one of the 749 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 9: best defenses in the league. You're right number one points 750 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 9: in yards and this is the deepest end of the 751 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 9: season of Texans offense has ever been this good at scoring, 752 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 9: defense at holding the opponent down, And I believe they'll 753 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 9: be able to do that against virtually anybody, including the 754 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 9: Chiefs when they get there in December. But the question 755 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 9: is can you match them on the offensive side of 756 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 9: the football, And this week with no CJ. Stroud and 757 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 9: possibly no Chubb and Titus Howard and the concussion protocol, 758 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 9: you got a lot of challenges there. But they'll have 759 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 9: to do their best and try to get it going 760 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 9: because if they don't get this one JP, it's three 761 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 9: and six and it's going to be really tough. 762 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 4: That is Mark vandermir conversation coming up this weekend on 763 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 4: the Jags Podcast Network and cooundown a kickoff Sunday ahead 764 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: of Jaguars Texans. 765 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: We'll return with more. 766 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 4: Jeff Logoban joins us again as jags HQ on the 767 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 4: Jaguars Radio Network. 768 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: Que presented by Fresh from Florida continues right now. 769 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 4: And welcome back to is jags HQ and you're invited 770 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 4: to the official Duvall Watch Party presented by UF Health 771 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: be at the Bank this Sunday is the Jaguars take 772 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 4: on the Texans in Houston. 773 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: Attendance is free, but tickets are limited. 774 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 4: Secure spot at Jaguars dot Com Slash Watch Party. 775 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 9: J P. 776 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: Shadrick, Jeff Logoban as. 777 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 4: Jags HQ rolls along or thanks to Tony Vesseli and 778 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: James Gladstone. Yeah, it's a backup quarterback, but they still 779 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 4: have some familiar names in the skill positions, including Nicocollins 780 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 4: at wide receiver. Thirty three catches, four hundred and fourteen 781 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: yards for the season and three touchdown receptions for Collins, Yeah. 782 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 3: He's kind of off. 783 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at pull his career number up, 784 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 7: I mean, he's off definitely pace for what he's been 785 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 7: able to do career numbers wise, But you know, My 786 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 7: biggest concern is that this is a guy that is 787 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 7: an elite wide receiver that if I'm Davis Mills, you know, 788 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 7: in perfect world, the Texas led to run the ball 789 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 7: to keep the Jaguars off balancing and out and then 790 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 7: start chucking the ball twelve because he's that good. And 791 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 7: let's go back to the first matchup. You remember the 792 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 7: double move on Tyson Campbell. Yeah, uh oh oh oh, 793 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 7: and then at the end of the game, you know 794 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 7: he had the he'd lost to fumble. I'm sure that 795 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 7: he would like to make some amends for some of 796 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 7: those plays, but he's a dangerous weapon. 797 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 4: Back to back thousand yard seasons for him, and not 798 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: even with full games slated played. I mean, he played 799 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 4: fifteen games in twenty twenty three twelve hundred almost thirteen 800 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 4: hundred yards, and only twelve games last year just over 801 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 4: one thousand yards and eight touchdowns and seven touchdowns respectively. 802 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 7: What's his career yards per catch? Fourteen and a half, Okay, 803 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 7: and he's like twelve and a half now, so he's 804 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 7: kind of off of that pace. But he's the guy 805 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 7: that can take the top off of a defense. He 806 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 7: can make the contested catches he's a big body, he 807 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 7: runs well. 808 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 3: You know, he's the guy. I mean, and obviously the 809 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: tight end. 810 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 7: Schultz and Christian Kirk are kind of I don't know, 811 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 7: they're complimentary players, but Nico Collins is the guy. 812 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. 813 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk was open on that last drive in Week 814 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 4: three and. 815 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: The quarterback just missed him. That would have been a 816 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: touchdown probably yeah, it probably was. 817 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 7: But you know the Christian Kirk, I mean, that was 818 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 7: his first game play this year, was the first matchup 819 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 7: against the Jaguars, and then since then he's been in 820 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 7: and out of the lineup. He missed the Seattle game, 821 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 7: he missed the San Francisco game, all with that hamstring. 822 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 7: And look, even Nico Collins missed the game before the 823 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 7: last with a concussion. So you hope that the chemistry 824 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 7: is not quite there with a backup quarterback in his. 825 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: Receiving core a lot of moving parts. But what do 826 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 3: you do? 827 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 4: And when you have those question marks a lot? Try 828 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 4: to lead on the run game maybe what I might do. 829 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 7: Look, they got a veteran guy and Nick Chubb, but 830 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 7: you know the one that you know all the Jaguars 831 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 7: are talking about is Misceli mentioned him what he marks 832 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 7: from mess rookie, you know, seems to be the guy 833 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 7: that's got a little bit more of that juice to him. 834 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 7: But you know, the Jaguars have been pretty good against 835 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 7: the run and that needs to continue in this game 836 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 7: this week. 837 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 4: Let's come back and we'll get some final thoughts ahead 838 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 4: of this Jaguars Texans matchup in Week ten. This is 839 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 4: Jags HQ on Jaguars Radio. 840 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaggs HQ, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 841 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: right now. 842 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 4: JP, Shadwick, Jeff Logman. It is Jags HQ on the 843 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 4: Jaguars Radio Network. In is Week ten, a Jaguars visit 844 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: the Houston Texans, looking for a season series sweep of 845 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: the Texans for the first time since twenty seventeen. The 846 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 4: Texans had to head since then from twenty eighteen to 847 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 4: forward twelve and three against the Jaguars. It's all past, 848 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 4: so a lot going on with both these teams right now. 849 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: Both teams banged up. Check the injury reports in the 850 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: game Status tomorrow for a handful of key players to 851 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 4: the Jaguars who have not been on. 852 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: The practice field yet this week. 853 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 4: Logs including Brian Thomas Junior, who has not been out there. 854 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 4: Ezra Cleveland, the left guard, hasn't practiced yet this week. 855 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, the corner. 856 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 4: Hunter, long the tight end, and none of those guys 857 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 4: have practiced at all this week yet. 858 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 7: And I don't think correct me if I'm wrong. Have 859 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 7: we seen a Jaguar this year missed practice on Wednesday 860 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 7: and Thursday and play in a game? 861 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: I can't remember it, you know, I don't think. I 862 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 3: don't think there's been one. It's usually not the cadence. 863 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: It's like out limited. 864 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 7: You got limited, you know, or out and then limited 865 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 7: limited kind of a thing. So that's not trending for 866 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 7: those players that haven't practiced yet, not trending in the 867 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 7: right direction. So much like the last game, you're gonna 868 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 7: need players to step up and play well and take 869 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 7: advantage of that opportunity that's gonna be presented. 870 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 3: To them, and then the positive part of it. 871 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd has practiced both days full, as has wide 872 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 4: receiver Tim Patrick, though their participation will be big certainly 873 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 4: for this Jaguars team on both sides of the football. 874 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 3: And now to this Jaguars offense against the. 875 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 4: Houston defense, the number one group in the NFL on 876 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 4: the defensive side. 877 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: They seen him once. You know it's gonna be a physical. 878 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 4: Matchup, certainly in the trenches, and you will see what 879 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 4: happens at guard, right who steps in there at guard 880 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: if Vezra Cleveland's not there. 881 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 7: Well, I mean from going back to the last game, 882 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 7: Cole Van Lannon was the first guy in. You know, 883 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 7: he ended up finishing out the game for the Jaguars 884 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 7: and did a very good job. And I give him 885 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 7: a lot of credit Cole Van Lannon, just because he 886 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 7: was acquired in a trade under the previous regime. And 887 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 7: then they try to at guard, it didn't really work. 888 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 7: They moved them to tackle. He was the highest rated 889 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 7: tackle by PFF in the preseason a couple of years ago, 890 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 7: and he's continued to get better to the point where 891 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 7: he's one of the most versatile players. And I think 892 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 7: he's kind of a backup for tackles and then guards, 893 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 7: I mean everywhere except for center. Yeah, and I actually 894 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 7: talked to him a couple of games ago when Monheim 895 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 7: was having a start and Hainsy was out and he 896 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 7: was the backup center. Yeah, you know, I'll take a 897 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 7: few stats I said, can you snap? He goes or 898 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 7: have you ever snapped? He said no, I've never snapped. 899 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 7: But I said, well, do you think you could go? 900 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: I got it. I got it. 901 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 7: So I'm like, wow, okay as a football player, darn 902 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 7: good football player. 903 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: So you know he's got a great opportunity himself. 904 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: All Right, we'll see what happens with the injury report 905 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 4: and the status tomorrow Jaguars. 906 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: Texans one o'clock Sunday on. 907 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 4: The network will be on the air with the countdown 908 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: to kickoff at noon on the Jaguars Radio Network. 909 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: Logs have a good rest of the week. 910 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 7: Access tonight Yes with Cam Little Cam Little Big. 911 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 4: Lay absolutely sixty eight yard field goal, the NFL record 912 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 4: in last week's game in Las Vegas. Thanks our entire crew, 913 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 4: Joe Ganado, Brent Reaver, David Choe, and of course thanks 914 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 4: to James Gladstone Tony Bucelli for joining us in the 915 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 4: first half hour each and every week on Jags HQ 916 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: on the Jaguars Radio Network.