Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what you Really miss podcast Today.
Speaker 1: We have a very special friend.
Speaker 2: Oh and we are gabbin. We can just talk all day.
Speaker 2: You know, it's nice you basically listen to us.
Speaker 1: Yah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is people can get a
Speaker 2: good sense of what our relationships are like with all
Speaker 2: the people we have on and we're just kicking it
Speaker 2: and talking, having a good time. And today is no
Speaker 2: exception because Romy Rosemont Carol Hudson, Yes, Finn Hudson's mother,
Speaker 2: who's a star, a sweet, sweet person and an excellent
Speaker 2: baker and the an excellent crier, the most fun person
Speaker 2: you'll ever have on a TV or film set. Correct,
Speaker 2: So enjoy our conversation catching up with Romy Rosemont. Hi, Hi,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's go back to the beginning of Glee.
Speaker 1: Romy tell us about how you got the show.
Speaker 3: I was called I was called into audition for Jane's part,
Speaker 3: and I absolutely knew that I was not going to
Speaker 3: get it because I either had to look like I
Speaker 3: was a cheerleader, right, you know, I either had to
Speaker 3: look like Megan Hilty or I had to look like
Speaker 3: Jane or dot right, you know, I mean in heights
Speaker 3: of you know, of a.
Speaker 2: Presence, they are towering figures.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and and and just such a presence. And
Speaker 3: so you know, I did the best that I could,
Speaker 3: And I mean I knew that wasn't going very far,
Speaker 3: like neither because neither of them fit. Now I can
Speaker 3: tumble with the best of them. But you know, and
Speaker 3: I can. I could definitely do some comedy if someone
Speaker 3: wanted to lift me up into a pyramid all down
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: So, and then they called me in for for Finn's mom,
Speaker 3: for Corey's mom. When I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 3: there's no lines, and you know it was Ryan saying, yeah,
Speaker 3: but this, uh you know, I had to throw the
Speaker 3: milk carton and weep and yet whatever that was or
Speaker 3: where the bikes.
Speaker 4: Short in the level I mean, and and my hair.
Speaker 3: Was so large and so and then it I think
Speaker 3: when we were shooting the pilot, I think what I
Speaker 3: worked like two days. Ryan was like, and then I'm
Speaker 3: going to do this, and then I'm going to do this.
Speaker 1: So you had you got inklings of things that were coming,
Speaker 1: but and you knew you were a recursed and you
Speaker 1: knew you were coming back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I never believe that.
Speaker 2: Right, right, You've been around to trust that.
Speaker 3: So I didn't know. All he said was he was
Speaker 3: interested in telling the story of the single mother with
Speaker 3: the the high school quarterback who became Who's in gleek club?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It was never like I think we started where it
Speaker 3: was supposed to be really poor and haggard or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I was always always asking, so, what does Carol do?
Speaker 3: What does she do? She worked in a bank? Does
Speaker 3: she no one?
Speaker 2: That's for you to figure out.
Speaker 3: That's my backstory. But and then it really didn't matter
Speaker 3: because you never saw Carol away from you know, which
Speaker 3: is Fin Finn or or Burt or you know or
Speaker 3: Kurt And so I mean that was our running joke
Speaker 3: later in the season, Carol was in the basement when
Speaker 3: she got married. Once furt happened, I literally was like,
Speaker 3: I'm watching it. I'm like, uh, you're a prom you
Speaker 3: I don't know Mom would be there. Oh, I'm in
Speaker 3: the basement.
Speaker 2: They're just doing some more laundry.
Speaker 3: I mean. And that's what was so amazing was that
Speaker 3: nobody even referenced to me like you didn't have to
Speaker 3: even do that much. Was it was so hilarious. I
Speaker 3: was like did I was literally at one time, I go,
Speaker 3: did Burt kill me? Oh? My god, Burt murdered Carol?
Speaker 3: And so we were you know, those were.
Speaker 1: Good times, yes, but that basement was very cobwebby. I
Speaker 1: have to say it dirty. I you know, I'm reading here,
Speaker 1: there's this document that our wonderful producers made, and you're
Speaker 1: in eighteen episodes. It felt like a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot more than that.
Speaker 3: That's what people say.
Speaker 2: Eighteen episodes.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. And so it's like people are like, no,
Speaker 3: I think that, because.
Speaker 2: Yes, when I come with cigarette.
Speaker 3: Exactly when I come on, there was a there was
Speaker 3: a presence, and also I was I was still you.
Speaker 1: I was still I was still his mom, right.
Speaker 3: And so my treasure is those intimate scenes that Corey
Speaker 3: and I had, I think did relate to that kids
Speaker 3: could relate to, you know, so I think you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I got was from any kind
Speaker 3: of fans and at all didn't compare. Was I wish
Speaker 3: you were my mom?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean, Carol and Bert were the model parents for anyone.
Speaker 2: I think the two the very situations, also the complicated
Speaker 2: situations you were both in in your own right individually,
Speaker 2: and how those characters navigated them so gracefully, eloquently trying
Speaker 2: to say the right thing, but as human as it is,
Speaker 2: like it's going to be a little imperfect, which makes
Speaker 2: it even more relatable. And watching you and Michael Mallley
Speaker 2: standing at the altar in Furt was just I Also
Speaker 2: it's like you wear your heart on your sleeve, and
Speaker 2: I feel like a good gusta wind and that you
Speaker 2: might just tear up a little bit, and it makes
Speaker 2: me tear up because you are the sweetest, like most giving,
Speaker 2: caring person. And then watching you two are like, oh god,
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't watch them. And then Mike Michael
Speaker 2: Madley's about to cry during the receptions, like these two.
Speaker 2: I've been told my whole life I'm a little cold
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that right now.
Speaker 2: I do not yes, because no one gets me like you.
Speaker 2: I lose my shit, right And and I think you know,
Speaker 2: it's a testament to yes, your ability as an actor,
Speaker 2: and you're and like you just as a person, and
Speaker 2: that's I think also why it feels like you were
Speaker 2: in a lot more than eighteen episodes, because yes, Jane
Speaker 2: and Dot have a presence.
Speaker 3: But woo, I so do you thank you? You know,
Speaker 3: I I was. I actually thought that there was a
Speaker 3: place like I didn't. I never understood why Carol and
Speaker 3: Kurt didn't have a more independent relationship because he lost
Speaker 3: his mother and then and then his his his dad
Speaker 3: marries the woman who's the mother of someone he has
Speaker 3: a massive crush on. Like there was so there was
Speaker 3: to me, there was opportunities to to you know, to
Speaker 3: dive into those topics and discover it or just you know,
Speaker 3: we did it with one scene, but like I know,
Speaker 3: we're doing fort today. But like you know, in that
Speaker 3: one in the scene where I think he's pregnant, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Right, and.
Speaker 3: That it was it was like you kind of I
Speaker 3: think that that's the difficult thing about telling stories about
Speaker 3: recur with recurring characters, because no matter what, the recurring
Speaker 3: character has to be there with whoever they're attached to. Right.
Speaker 3: But I don't necessarily believe that, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Because you can find you could have you know,
Speaker 3: you could find that that conversation that's just between Carol
Speaker 3: and Burt. Of course, it's like for the parents. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I have a step son. In the beginning,
Speaker 3: it's hard, right because you don't have a voice. So
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of dramatic license that Bert
Speaker 3: was so involved in Finn's life. It wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: that embracing to someone taking you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, that's the that kind of wouldn't happen,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you honor the script that's been written,
Speaker 3: but I appreciate that and thank you.
Speaker 1: But I mean there's just there's also twenty five characters,
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 3: And there's also bright shiny objects that became important I'm
Speaker 3: sure in selling it, you know, in the powers that
Speaker 3: be deciding that and everybody, it was like, you're not
Speaker 3: going to say if Sarah Jackson Parker, let's say, says
Speaker 3: oh I want to do some You're not gonna As
Speaker 3: a business person, you're not going to say no, right, So,
Speaker 3: and that's you know what I mean, Like you guys
Speaker 3: wearing you know, as many hats as you guys do
Speaker 3: as business people, which is why you have a successful podcast.
Speaker 3: There's certain decisions that that that you might not have
Speaker 3: made as Jenna and Kevin right right.
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, oh, we could instead of doing this
Speaker 2: extra scene, we could throw in another song and then
Speaker 2: put that on that soundtrack.
Speaker 1: That sounds right exactly.
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel comfortable, like do you ever raised
Speaker 2: or would you ever raise those thoughts to the powers
Speaker 2: that be? Or no, you just know there wasn't the room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I wasn't invited to that room conversation. So my job
Speaker 3: was to you know, I look at I always look
Speaker 3: at at a job. That's it's it's it's been a success.
Speaker 3: If I walk away with a friend, I mean like
Speaker 3: like a really good experience and you know it was overflowing.
Speaker 3: As far as with Glee and the.
Speaker 2: People that you can't get rid of us.
Speaker 3: It's like I've tried, but like I you know, I
Speaker 3: could have literally given birth to everyone, maybe not Jane
Speaker 3: and Dott but on the whole. But you know it's
Speaker 3: there are people who would have I just in that way,
Speaker 3: I kind of respect other I respect the positions.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've asked you what was what was
Speaker 1: your experience or like do you remember the first time
Speaker 1: you worked with Corey Like the first scene you guys
Speaker 1: shot together, and what was it like when you guys
Speaker 1: shot scenes together.
Speaker 3: I met Corey very very briefly during the pilot because
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't work with adult Corey.
Speaker 2: I worked with chilet Corey, that's right.
Speaker 3: So I didn't get to work with him until that
Speaker 3: scene in where he hits the mailman, you know that
Speaker 3: very very brief.
Speaker 2: Very very briefing, but one of the best.
Speaker 3: I was very taken with his manner, his he was,
Speaker 3: you know, he was just such a sweet soul. And
Speaker 3: then when we had to do the more the more
Speaker 3: dramatic stuff, the more intense stuff, emotional, he was always like, I,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't cry. I just can't cry. And
Speaker 3: I was like, well, you don't have I was just saying,
Speaker 3: you don't have to, right, but you you definitely can't.
Speaker 3: I think that he so much wanted to be to
Speaker 3: be good, and I so respected that. And but I
Speaker 3: remember even when we shot Furt and we were out
Speaker 3: at that like weird churchy thing, and he was panicked
Speaker 3: that that paparazzi someone was going to see so that
Speaker 3: they would know the storyline, and even literally like like
Speaker 3: have his coat up. And I was like we're good.
Speaker 3: But he was. I mean it was because he believed
Speaker 3: in the show and what and he wanted to protect
Speaker 3: the surprise and all of that. And I mean, I
Speaker 3: definitely consider myself very very lucky that we got paired
Speaker 3: because let's we don't look alike at all, but.
Speaker 1: You know, but like your chemistry together, yeah, really really good.
Speaker 3: And it was just and and you know, I think
Speaker 3: that I think he felt that too. I think he
Speaker 3: felt like, I get to act today.
Speaker 1: Yep, totally, And I am.
Speaker 3: And I was, and I was flattered and honored to
Speaker 3: be a part of that because a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: was just the two of us until until they got
Speaker 3: married in the second season.
Speaker 2: Anytime there was sort of like we would say, like
Speaker 2: an adult in the scene, like, oh god, we really
Speaker 2: have to get our ship together to keep up. You know,
Speaker 2: we gotta you know, we're used to like, you know,
Speaker 2: being clowns in the choir room, singing a song making
Speaker 2: them laugh or in the teen drama stuff is so
Speaker 2: funny and fun.
Speaker 1: But when the adults came out, you know.
Speaker 3: But like I mean, hopefully what you learned from the adults,
Speaker 3: because you can't, you cannot stop having fun.
Speaker 2: And there was no.
Speaker 3: You know, it always freaks me out when when people
Speaker 3: are too serious. I'm like, dude, come on.
Speaker 2: Like you're the ragning Champ. You're the most fun on set.
Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about the alcohol escapades before.
Speaker 3: Well it start. I mean it was this episode that.
Speaker 4: It was he was done, everybody was done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just sitting there and.
Speaker 3: Like a little bit of dance, a little bit whatever.
Speaker 3: Pulled out I think a bottle.
Speaker 1: Of Patron, a black like Duffel bag. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: she comes into a wedding dress with a black Duffel
Speaker 1: bag and pulls out Patron and was like, you know
Speaker 1: here we were like real.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why I don't remember doing that number
Speaker 2: the recept Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: It was and and I And that was the first
Speaker 3: time I was like, oh my god, these kids can
Speaker 3: drink holy crap.
Speaker 2: And I was not.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love Metequila, but I'm like one maybe too.
Speaker 3: And it was kind of like, oh, like and I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know if it was Leah or
Speaker 3: or Heather might have you know, ended that bottle or two.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if I brought to I really don't.
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I know that there was another day,
Speaker 1: another wedding day that we were like, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: That's when we did it with Glory. We took shots
Speaker 3: with Gloria Estephon.
Speaker 1: We did take shots at the ranch. That's right for
Speaker 1: the Britanna wedding, that's right.
Speaker 2: I was so excited. Do you think Roby's got the
Speaker 2: booze today?
Speaker 3: I've had a picture. That's when I brought that stuggie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got into it.
Speaker 1: Kevin and I got into it, into it together. I
Speaker 1: got scared and I got scared up. We did that
Speaker 1: was a funny snug. Yeah, Gloria Estefan, Jennifer Coolidge.
Speaker 3: What's happened to Jina Gersham?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm being in craft and with Gina Gersh I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't think I can. I have
Speaker 2: to leave. I couldn't be alone with anyone. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to operate like a normal humor.
Speaker 1: It was an overwhelming wedding, that's right.
Speaker 3: And I kind of felt like I was like old
Speaker 3: hat like ladies following right.
Speaker 1: Yes, the cash chairs were like all the way down
Speaker 1: in like a really big trailer because there are so
Speaker 1: many yeah.
Speaker 3: In that white trailer. Yeah, it was freezing, so.
Speaker 1: Cold every it was like we were in heels. There
Speaker 1: was dirt everywhere.
Speaker 2: It was like the mountains and now.
Speaker 3: And then those that wardrobe that they put us in
Speaker 3: the Moms was just something. They were something. It was
Speaker 3: fan definitely definitely something.
Speaker 2: But you know, we could have used more of more
Speaker 2: Mom musical numbers.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, Oh my god, that would have been.
Speaker 2: Because that was a treat.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: I also by that point, I think I was so
Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I didn't read the script, talk about being unprofessional.
Speaker 1: Definitely didn't read the script.
Speaker 2: But Moms started performing and we're in the scene. I'm
Speaker 2: like wait.
Speaker 3: There was also those moments of that was the first
Speaker 3: time I really experienced CORD.
Speaker 2: That was that was one of my favorite things is
Speaker 2: for people to experience CORD.
Speaker 1: For that.
Speaker 3: I mean, that was I'm like, huh, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: It was definitely like, Okay, I can't believe that this
Speaker 3: has taking me this long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, just then a Brad Baker. It
Speaker 1: was Brad Baker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I mean all those I mean
Speaker 3: because I didn't have a wedding. I mean in real life,
Speaker 3: I we eloped, like for my wedding that was a
Speaker 3: full blown wedding. That was I mean, I've only worn
Speaker 3: wedding dresses on film, like my own wedding dress I
Speaker 3: got for sixty three dollars at Loments.
Speaker 2: That's right, because.
Speaker 3: Well, because I know I don't walk into the water
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Not going to take a you know, also, like you
Speaker 1: wear it once and then it goes in a box,
Speaker 1: so like, I know, great, great.
Speaker 3: You'll save it. I mean, yours was so gorgeous that.
Speaker 1: No, thanks, I mean preserved it. And yeah, em Emma
Speaker 1: will do what she wants with it. I hope she
Speaker 1: breaks it up and takes the fabric and makes little purses.
Speaker 1: Did you see that in mine? No, So there's this
Speaker 1: woman who had this gorgeous Japanese fabric for her great
Speaker 1: grandmother's wedding and she's like, I can't wait to take
Speaker 1: this and make these in two purses for my bridesmaids.
Speaker 1: It was like the most gorgeous dress and they came
Speaker 1: at her. I mean, she can do whatever she wants
Speaker 1: to it. But the people online came after her. They're like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make this end up, persons, You're gonna rip
Speaker 1: this thing up. And it was so crazy. But em
Speaker 1: I can do whatever she wants.
Speaker 2: It mine, I mean, did she do it?
Speaker 1: Though? I want I don't know. I want to know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she did. You're gonna do what you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, and you should.
Speaker 3: It's her dress.
Speaker 1: Exactly, her grandma gave it to her.
Speaker 3: People got to get out of other people's.
Speaker 1: Buns, that's right, Well, everybody thinks they have liberty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always just like I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 5: No, I've no, I mean, I've really you know, because
Speaker 5: am I'm not a name, and B I'm always playing
Speaker 5: sympathetic characters on the whole that I kind of I
Speaker 5: kind of dodged.
Speaker 3: The the the the hecklers, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There. We've had a couple of people on and
Speaker 2: they've talked about playing an unlikable character, and the stuff
Speaker 2: they would get online was.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's insane online. A friend of mine from high
Speaker 3: school has been on Young and the Restless literally since
Speaker 3: the Dinosaur age. That because that's rude and she's amazing
Speaker 3: and she's built herself such an amazing career into whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know, she used to get followed in her car.
Speaker 3: People wanted, you know, because they were in their home.
Speaker 3: You know, they're in people's homes in the middle of.
Speaker 1: The day every day and.
Speaker 3: So they're positive they know them, and she would get threats.
Speaker 3: It was insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those day tennis hopes are something people know. It's
Speaker 1: a religious no, yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean I grew up watching General Hospital every day
Speaker 2: if I got it, and I.
Speaker 3: The summer between my hold On freshman and sophomore year
Speaker 3: and my sophomore and junior year in college, I worked
Speaker 3: for Gennifal General Hospital. I worked in the front office
Speaker 3: the first summer and the second summer was I worked
Speaker 3: for the writers. The writers.
Speaker 2: When did you decide, so you worked all these jobs
Speaker 2: from the age of twelve, Well that was when my
Speaker 2: dad was a producer, so that was right, you know,
Speaker 2: but you clearly were in the entertainment business. Yeah, from childhood,
Speaker 2: when did you start actually being like, I need to
Speaker 2: be in front of the camera act.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to. I just was insecure. I didn't know,
Speaker 3: you know, it was like I was never pretty enough
Speaker 3: and I was never character enough and so the confidence.
Speaker 3: But I was funny, do you mean? And I knew
Speaker 3: that but I didn't, but there was no bells and
Speaker 3: whistles to it. I didn't have a funny voice. I
Speaker 3: wasn't really charactery. So it was like people just I mean,
Speaker 3: it still happens, but people just didn't know what to
Speaker 3: do with me. And so because I didn't know what,
Speaker 3: you know, where I fit in And I knew like
Speaker 3: I did a lot of improv in college and things
Speaker 3: like that. But when I graduated college, I worked at
Speaker 3: ICM and CAA for a year and a half.
Speaker 2: Did you did you do acting in college? Did you
Speaker 2: go to school for that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a theater major and then I switched
Speaker 3: to radio TV film at Northwestern and then but that's
Speaker 3: where I did. I discovered improv and I discovered that
Speaker 3: my that my brain worked in that way.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: It took me a long time. I used to push
Speaker 3: like nobody's business in comedy, you know, and it's like
Speaker 3: the worst thing obviously that you can do. And then
Speaker 3: I really didn't even know that I could do drama.
Speaker 3: And then I did an episode of Ali McBeal. It
Speaker 3: was the one hundredth episode, and I mean I was like, oh, God,
Speaker 3: crying comes easy, you know, you know, and so and
Speaker 3: then from then on people were like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like I can cry, And so I was always
Speaker 3: the crying mother. I mean we used to joke around
Speaker 3: that I should just have like a reel of crying
Speaker 3: snot cry, choke cry, you know, like hysteria, you know
Speaker 3: of all that, and you know, and it would be
Speaker 3: it'd be like a menu, which did you like and
Speaker 3: then just give me a minute to listen to a
Speaker 3: sad song.
Speaker 1: That's when I remember meeting you for the first time
Speaker 1: you were on set. I can't remember. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: when Finn was singing to the sonogram and you were
Speaker 1: talking about being pregnant human being pregnant. Then you were
Speaker 1: listening to your iPod. Then you had your wait do.
Speaker 3: You remember this? So you and Leah came up to
Speaker 3: me and you were saying, I think you'd seen something
Speaker 3: and you're so sweet. And then I go and I
Speaker 3: was aware, Jenna that you were not in the first
Speaker 3: cast of of a Spring Awakening, and I was listening
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: That's right, was it? Known? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, No.
Speaker 1: Blue Wind Sowring and Summer. That one, yes, the.
Speaker 3: One where she's basically saying that she was, you know, molestious.
Speaker 3: So I was listening to that and I was just like,
Speaker 3: what this is?
Speaker 1: That's funny. I forgot I remember that. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: But that's where I got the music from. When they
Speaker 1: decided Tina was going to cry all the time on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: Now it literally says, I mean less crying list Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And then if the material is good, then then it's
Speaker 3: noat but especially if you've got like a d D.
Speaker 3: If you my ability to carry on many conversations at
Speaker 3: once is high. Yeah, but if like I'm my job
Speaker 3: is to do this, I was like, oh, I need,
Speaker 3: I need, I need a way to stay in that
Speaker 3: because I won't I'll engage in all of that same
Speaker 3: so and that's why I will put on I'll put
Speaker 3: on music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And then you get the people they see, because remember
Speaker 3: they saw the headphones. They were coming out right like AirPods, wins.
Speaker 3: And I would always be amazed when people would be like,
Speaker 3: what are you listening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you listen to Hello? Hey, hi, hi y?
Speaker 3: So what did you something to make you cry?
Speaker 1: What did you, what did you eat this morning?
Speaker 3: Crying?
Speaker 1: I know I know that.
Speaker 3: But and and I have to say, like, actually, I
Speaker 3: just finished something in which I play a very officious
Speaker 3: person ins degree, and uh I literally got home. I
Speaker 3: was like, I kind of I kind of miss crying.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to cry. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I literally, I mean and for uh pretend cry. It's
Speaker 3: been you know, it's been a while.
Speaker 1: That's where is my protect Yeah? Exactly, that's really really funny.
Speaker 2: I needed that playlist trick. I could have used that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I needed to do that a lot, because
Speaker 1: my crap wasn't about crying, or it wasn't about sad content.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It wasn't even like it came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And it was like, she's crying about my
Speaker 1: funny while singing my funny Valentine, And you're like, how
Speaker 1: do you make that work? How do you even make that?
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be funny but it still supposed to
Speaker 1: be crying, So like, how do you make that work?
Speaker 3: My hitchcock. There's a few times where I would get
Speaker 3: the first draft and I'd be like, Carol's got some
Speaker 3: really good stuff, and I'd get the second, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: oh okay, and I could still make that work. And
Speaker 3: then I'd get the shooting script and I'd get Hitchcock
Speaker 3: coming up to me going, I'm so sorry, we've taken
Speaker 3: out all the transitions, and that happened. That was the
Speaker 3: one hold on, hold on when I tell the truth
Speaker 3: about Finn's dad, when I tell them the truth, this
Speaker 3: whole thing that would lead up to that. Wait, they'd
Speaker 3: still get all the way. So I literally had to
Speaker 3: go from zero six and you're like, everybody out of
Speaker 3: my way. Okay, I got some start to make.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, exactly, Yeah, she's exactly you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a movie if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 3: but be ready. It's very mushalled truly, madly deeply. It's
Speaker 3: an independent movie with Juliette Stephenson. It was an English
Speaker 3: movie and Alan Rickman. It's like kind kind of like
Speaker 3: ghost you know, Patrick Swayzey, but she has a scene
Speaker 3: and that was where she is full on like you
Speaker 3: guys know that of those times where you were crying
Speaker 3: so like you you choke you literally because it is
Speaker 3: and it's coming out of it everywhere, and it was
Speaker 3: it's like it was this independent film, and I was
Speaker 3: nez Mari because I was just like it was so
Speaker 3: real and it was like, you know, even you know,
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to make network stuff real because
Speaker 3: there's a formula and you know, and and and people
Speaker 3: have to be brave to try it and make it.
Speaker 3: But you can't be brave unless you have like a stature.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I was going to ask how you do it,
Speaker 2: because I think network stuff is hard to make, and
Speaker 2: network stuff, like making grounded network stuff, it's hard to make.
Speaker 2: Glee wasn't necessarily the most grounded show on the planet,
Speaker 2: but your stuff was always was. Did you how as
Speaker 2: an actor are you conscious of sort of genre like
Speaker 2: the type of show you're on, the type of or
Speaker 2: is it sort of seen by seeing basis of these
Speaker 2: are the scenes I'm in, and these how they read
Speaker 2: to me? So this is what we're doing. Are you
Speaker 2: thinking out as at a larger scale, macro level of
Speaker 2: what the show is and then what network it's on?
Speaker 2: How does that work for you?
Speaker 3: Not the network, not, not any of that. I think
Speaker 3: that you've got to get the tone of the show,
Speaker 3: but in those moments, because I do believe that as
Speaker 3: wild and crazy as as Glee was is you have
Speaker 3: to have the other stuff or it's too much totally.
Speaker 3: So you literally had to have that quiet moment of
Speaker 3: because it went from Finn singing to a sonogram Yeah bonkers, right,
Speaker 3: his mom coming in and being like what and then realizing,
Speaker 3: oh shit, he's gotten someone pregnant. So the only I
Speaker 3: mean to me, the only way to do that is
Speaker 3: to play it real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I and.
Speaker 3: My tricks if it's not, if they're no transitions is
Speaker 3: you know you you you do you talk like a
Speaker 3: human you you know, people don't talk everything out like
Speaker 3: it's a script, and so we do pause or mumble
Speaker 3: or repeat ourselves or whatever. And so that's what I
Speaker 3: try to do. I really really try. I try not
Speaker 3: to rehearse it, even in my head as much because
Speaker 3: I really trust to me, if it's in something where
Speaker 3: you're you've got another partner, I really do try to
Speaker 3: find a common ground between the partner, you know, whatever
Speaker 3: that is, and therefore there's a chemistry, right, because I
Speaker 3: think that you can we can all pretend for sure
Speaker 3: that there's chemistry with someone, but if there's really but
Speaker 3: you can't replace the real stuff. And that's what was
Speaker 3: unique about all you guys, is all all of you
Speaker 3: had chemistry together, and that was rare. I mean, it
Speaker 3: was definitely a unicorn, and I wouldn't have if, you know,
Speaker 3: if it was just you were watching separate.
Speaker 2: Things, right, And you can feel that as a viewer.
Speaker 2: You you may not be conscious of that's what you're feeling,
Speaker 2: but you know it's not exactly right or as magical,
Speaker 2: you know, magnetic as it could be.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and so you know, and and and it's
Speaker 3: and it's part of the job. So I always think
Speaker 3: that when I do get something really mad and I
Speaker 3: have to do it, you know, I just.
Speaker 1: I just do it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like too, if it's particularly
Speaker 2: something you don't think is of quality, then it can
Speaker 2: also be another challenge of Okay, how do I make
Speaker 2: how do I make this work? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Totally yep.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did two seasons of something. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna say. But but it's just like you, You're like,
Speaker 3: it's I just I could just let me know. You're
Speaker 3: not gonna let me ret because I think that when
Speaker 3: when on a television show, if you have a bunch
Speaker 3: of different characters of different ages and stuff, like that.
Speaker 3: You have to.
Speaker 2: It's got to be represented, right, Yes, people talk differently.
Speaker 3: You know, and and having a young single person, right,
Speaker 3: mom dialogue, it's gonna be mom dialogue.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 3: So my job is to throw in the uh oh right, the.
Speaker 2: Noises acting school of Romie. Yeah, that's what I need.
Speaker 1: That's what I need. I need.
Speaker 2: This is great. We're just doing this selfishly. We're just
Speaker 2: taking okay, and then what do you do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but I mean I just finished something and
Speaker 3: Pete do you know who Pete Holmes is? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 3: he was my counterpart. So he's I'm five to four,
Speaker 3: he's six six, and I was and I was his
Speaker 3: I'm his superior in this agents interrogation agents, and we
Speaker 3: we were it was like some of the stuff we
Speaker 3: just had to keep repeating and like it just would
Speaker 3: be a different line or different scene, but it was
Speaker 3: kind of the same stuff. And a lot of my
Speaker 3: stuff was looks. And I was like at some point,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm fresh out of I don't have can't
Speaker 3: mouth the gate, can't you know? There there was I
Speaker 3: mean to totally out myself, but there was because I
Speaker 3: was back and forth and I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I I think I need a little bobo right up
Speaker 3: here botox for those and uh, not too much.
Speaker 6: But then it hit and I I was in makeup
Speaker 6: and and uh, I'm like I could There was no surprise,
Speaker 6: like like it was.
Speaker 3: Literally I'll never do that again. There was literally a
Speaker 3: lot of like.
Speaker 1: A lot of.
Speaker 2: Big guys, big guys.
Speaker 4: Or you know, a lot of like when I it
Speaker 4: was like, oh dear, that is not gonna but why.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't remember why I was bringing
Speaker 3: that up. But it didn't matter because I mean, that
Speaker 3: was it was super fun and god, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: it is funny.
Speaker 1: Wow, it was funny people. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But and we were always sitting and so I
Speaker 3: think there was there was a scene where I was
Speaker 3: standing and all of a sudden, he goes, you're tiny.
Speaker 3: That's ye.
Speaker 1: I said, just figure this out.
Speaker 3: Now you are just six six, He goes, We're always sitting.
Speaker 3: It's one of those. And thinking about it, Corey was
Speaker 3: six three, I'm all with super tall people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were really we were in a van. We
Speaker 1: were in like four different cars going from like one
Speaker 1: city to the other. On this on the Hot Topic tour,
Speaker 1: very early on in our in the Glee life and
Speaker 1: we stopped at a gas station to get some peeing,
Speaker 1: to get some snacks, and Corey gets out and all
Speaker 1: the girls had finally taken their heels off. We've been
Speaker 1: doing press, you know, with our four inch you know, lubatons.
Speaker 1: And he looks at us in the girl in the
Speaker 1: gas station. I'll never forget. He goes like, I'm tall.
Speaker 1: I remember, and he's like, you guys are so short.
Speaker 1: We were like, we know it was Emmer and Leah
Speaker 1: all next to each other. We were like, and we're like,
Speaker 1: I mean average five to two. Maybe he's like, God.
Speaker 2: I for completely forgot about that. I was in the
Speaker 2: aisle over.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: So you came back even after Corey passed away? Did
Speaker 1: you I know, obviously that's not what we were thinking about,
Speaker 1: but like, did you think like, oh, that's it for
Speaker 1: my character? Did you think there was like stuff because
Speaker 1: of Bert and Kurt and everything.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't think that I'd be back. M m.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, when when I found out
Speaker 3: they weren't doing that, they were doing it that. We
Speaker 3: don't know how Finn passed Like, none of that I
Speaker 3: hope that I would have been part of that. But
Speaker 3: the stuff later when I think, gentlemen, you and I
Speaker 3: had a scene when it was like whatever it was, reaching.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it was a hotel room, right, hotel room,
Speaker 1: like I was.
Speaker 3: I never thought that that I'd be back.
Speaker 1: Wow, that makes sense, but which.
Speaker 3: You know, which I you know, because Chris wasn't even
Speaker 3: there because that was later on.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, he was off a New York that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very I was very very It was very.
Speaker 1: Surprised, right, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, But I.
Speaker 3: Mean, and that's what it is. I mean, even like
Speaker 3: I was in the last season of a Million Little
Speaker 3: Things that they only did a half season, and even
Speaker 3: in that people are often like because I only de
Speaker 3: nine of those and people are like you only Denine.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But it's like when you're dealing with an ensemble cast,
Speaker 3: there are so many stories to tell totally that that
Speaker 3: that's like that's the kid death for like a recurring
Speaker 3: unless the arc is about that person.
Speaker 1: You know, totally like that season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was really surprised done.
Speaker 1: And then the last one obviously where everybody came back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a I mean there's a lot
Speaker 3: of like you you have those isolated fun moments like
Speaker 3: in Fort. I remember remember Carol Carol directed that, Carol Banker,
Speaker 3: and I just remember everybody walks down and then I'm
Speaker 3: walking down and cut just you're mouthing mouthing the words
Speaker 3: but don't need to sing, and I go, yes, oh
Speaker 3: my god, seriously, and I mean time and time and
Speaker 3: time again. Just got so into the Merrit song that
Speaker 3: I was like, what do you know? I didn't know not.
Speaker 3: She's like, I have it on film.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna trust that now literal fil.
Speaker 1: You don't need to show me. I just trust yes,
Speaker 1: now I'm touch you.
Speaker 3: But I remember, I do remember, like it was crazy
Speaker 3: for everybody else, like you think about production, but that
Speaker 3: was super.
Speaker 2: Fun so much.
Speaker 1: I remember that one. There are some episodes that kind
Speaker 1: of go by the wayside, and then there are some
Speaker 1: episodes like Fort where it's very vivid, the whole episode
Speaker 1: is very whole episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, also can connect it. I think it helps connecting
Speaker 2: it to a place that is different from what we
Speaker 2: were used to every single day. And Tequila that was memorable, you.
Speaker 1: Know, of course, brings people together.
Speaker 2: Oh it did? You were never like when that happened, like,
Speaker 2: she's amazing, Can.
Speaker 1: We have can we Carol come back all the time?
Speaker 3: Bank?
Speaker 1: You here just all the time?
Speaker 3: She might know?
Speaker 1: What is the feeling that Glee leaves you with? Now?
Speaker 3: I mean I take away I do I take away
Speaker 3: all the positive stuff, which was friends, I mean it
Speaker 3: was it was definitely an opportunity for me. There was
Speaker 3: the negative parts of it, which is like I never
Speaker 3: got to audition for anything on Fox at Allies in
Speaker 3: six years, but I only did eighteen episodes.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: When I found that out, I'm like, wait, this is
Speaker 3: keeping me from potentially working, right. That was very upsetting
Speaker 3: on a different level, which yeah, I mean just like
Speaker 3: also what is fair level?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: You know, it just didn't seem very fair. But I
Speaker 3: always it's like, I always get so excited to see
Speaker 3: you guys in real life, and that wouldn't happen if
Speaker 3: we didn't have that, you know, and I didn't have
Speaker 3: I might have gotten disappointed in the lack of stuff sometimes,
Speaker 3: but the experience for me was only positive. The on
Speaker 3: screen you know, again, I wish that I'd had more
Speaker 3: or you know, a stronger storyline or more or more
Speaker 3: a more challenging one. M h. But when I was there,
Speaker 3: I always had a blast, always blast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you made it a blast for everyone else.
Speaker 1: Also brought us a lot of bake goods, so many
Speaker 1: bake goods.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys actually helped me kind of think about
Speaker 3: tiny bites even though the never turn into something because
Speaker 3: I brought I brought muffins and everybody would eat like
Speaker 3: a half, and then I would seem and be like, no,
Speaker 3: that's not gonna work. And then I did remember I
Speaker 3: did them in balls.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember them.
Speaker 1: And then and then the yeah, we love tiny bites.
Speaker 1: I think about tiny bites a lot.
Speaker 2: Delicious.
Speaker 3: You know you can total double fist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have left half of muffin.
Speaker 1: That would have never left half.
Speaker 3: No, I might have, honey, because you had to put in. No,
Speaker 3: you had to get in those costumes.
Speaker 2: They weren't exactly, they weren't for everyone is so tiny,
Speaker 2: watching like everyone is so little and like skinny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just you guys were young.
Speaker 1: Exactly hey day. I mean Chris was thought we were fat.
Speaker 3: But we were so Chris was eighteen. Were you the
Speaker 3: next youngest Kevin.
Speaker 2: Yes, until Cord came around. And Cord was the youngest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was younger than Chris.
Speaker 2: No, no, he was in between me and Chrish.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, yes, yeah, what a time, What a time?
Speaker 1: And children, truly children.
Speaker 3: And now you have your own. Yeah, that is bonkers.
Speaker 1: It is such bonkers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last night we were watching another episode and David looked
Speaker 1: at me, and because I have he makes I make
Speaker 1: him watch them all day and he's like, that's on
Speaker 1: his mom And I was like.
Speaker 3: That's really so sweet.
Speaker 1: You don't think about it that way. Yeah, But then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, she'll never watch it show.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Oh when she starts, you know, she starts dancing and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, my niece started watching it when I
Speaker 1: was when they were little, but just the musical numbers,
Speaker 1: so my brother just playing the musical members except for
Speaker 1: push It anyway, we love you and we're just so
Speaker 1: grateful that we have you as a friend and thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for spending this much time with us today.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I will you know, I would I
Speaker 3: wish that it was in person.
Speaker 2: I really do love you, Romie.
Speaker 3: Love you, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Well we warned, you.
Speaker 3: Warned you.
Speaker 2: We could talk for days.
Speaker 1: Just just gabbing.
Speaker 2: Gabbin way anything. We just talked. We just talked.
Speaker 1: I know, got a lover. Well, Ronie, thanks for coming
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