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Speaker 2: Hi's live on a First Friday Miracle ediative Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely bo he is the great. There it is.

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Speaker 3: There's your tablet. Well, how about it? I got a lot,

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Speaker 3: I got we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Where would you like to start? Where the calves? That's

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Speaker 2: not fun, No, but we have the calves.

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Speaker 3: We've got stadium renderings. It's a little old, isn't that

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Speaker 3: an old one? That was like for doing our work

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Speaker 3: for us stadium? Yeah? And uh and then we have

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Speaker 3: long bone short ribs in the cafe today. Wow. If

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Speaker 3: you look look in there, if you even take a look,

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Speaker 3: if you take a game or they might see the bone.

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Speaker 3: Is there's the bone?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 4: Was there?

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Speaker 2: What what ended up happening with the remnants of the pig.

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Speaker 3: Got every bit of that pig, every every bit of

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Speaker 3: at a bull pig. Noess was consumed. Yes, yes, it

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Speaker 3: gave it. It's a great what an honor. It's an

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Speaker 3: honor to that, to that pig.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: I was told though today that it was met with

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Speaker 3: There was la resistance to the pick, and then it

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Speaker 3: was probably just not what you thought you'd see. I

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Speaker 3: think that's what it is, because then he asked one

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Speaker 3: of the people who was very upset with the pig,

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Speaker 3: it was like, you eat bacon every morning, right.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just it's it's smiling seeing Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: the look of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be a little troubling, I suppose for some.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you knew it was there, you'd

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Speaker 2: be fine. It's just as probably a shock for some.

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Speaker 3: I think we should have had been playing songs from

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Speaker 3: the film forgetting Sarah Marshall handing out lays, and then

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Speaker 3: who would have had a problem with it they being there? Nobody, right,

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Speaker 3: Nobody would have at that point, absolutely nobody.

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Speaker 2: If you could start any television show you've ever watched

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Speaker 2: from the beginning and it was men in black, erase

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Speaker 2: from your mind.

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Speaker 3: What would you choose. I mean, there's two that immediately

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Speaker 3: come to my mind, but they're so different that, like

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Speaker 3: you almost have to be more genre specific, but Game

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Speaker 3: of Thrones and Curb.

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Speaker 2: So you would put yourself through Game of Thrones again

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Speaker 2: that for the end of it.

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Speaker 3: What a delight the journey, dude.

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Speaker 2: The journey, but the end was so brutal. Hold on, no,

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Speaker 2: that was bad.

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Speaker 3: How are you unsatisfying? Some of the decisions that were

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Speaker 3: made in the end are very unsatisfying. But even in

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Speaker 3: that final season, which was six episodes, you had three

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Speaker 3: of the most stunning episodes of TV you'll ever see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the last three were as bad as anything.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't three because I think it was like one

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Speaker 3: was good. Maybe it was like one, two were good,

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Speaker 2: I think I think that since it stopped, the fact

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Speaker 2: not anything anybody seek out and pop culture, that it

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Speaker 2: I think it is. I haven't heard anybody say I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna rewatch Game of Thrones. I haven't heard any since that.

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Speaker 3: I haven't know multiple people who are doing it as

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Speaker 2: don't think it has I don't think it has, or

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Speaker 2: you're the one who knows people who are doing it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I think they botched the end of that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. It's the most enjoyable up until

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Speaker 3: that point, but it's the most botched ending of anything

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Speaker 3: It didn't matter. Sixty hours of greatness.

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Speaker 2: So I went Sopranos is the one that I would

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I did. Try to watch that

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Speaker 3: up until he goes to Boden. He goes to Boden

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Speaker 3: and David Chase is like, no, this is who he is.

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Speaker 2: You need to see it, and that needs to be

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Speaker 3: Is also, this is my opinion, Yeah, fairly unsatisfying ending.

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Speaker 3: And I would say there are plenty of forgettable episodes

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Speaker 3: we didn't need Reek and all of those things. But

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Speaker 3: it did lead to what you called one of the

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Speaker 3: most satisfying TV deaths of all times. So maybe we

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Speaker 3: in the moment, but there I think that there's a

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Speaker 3: not great. It's so great show, and I do think

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Speaker 3: it stuck the landing like that was the ending. I

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it was it was the ending

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Speaker 3: Most people thought it was a mistake. I did.

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Speaker 2: I thought the cable went out, which that that's what

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Speaker 2: hard to find one that totally crushes it, that lands

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Speaker 2: it's very difficult. Like I think The Wire is probably

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have the pure joy in it necessarily that

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Speaker 3: I stand by Thrones and a curb for me. Somebody

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Speaker 3: but I don't find the need to revisit it. We

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Speaker 3: So we never ended up finishing it. He petered out.

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Speaker 3: The world that is created, and really the greatest I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what, the greatest disservice that was done in

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Speaker 3: Game of Thrones was that George R. Martin. You gotta

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Speaker 3: throw the blame at his feet every operation, finish this

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Speaker 3: he did that, but there's no way that no, that

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Speaker 3: would have ended that way.

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Speaker 2: No, no, and those guys were what were they trying

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Speaker 2: to get Star Wars or matter, It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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Speaker 2: He's a buffoon, absolute buffoon as a general. The worst

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Speaker 2: Guessing that wasn't what it was meant to be. Kills

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Speaker 3: No, I thought what was gonna happen is they were

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Speaker 3: going to make a child together. That was the one

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Speaker 3: rewrite the end of it, what I would have done

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Speaker 3: has had the white Walkers win. I remember you saying

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Speaker 3: But that the child of Denaris and John Sneh is

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to have a little people for him

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Speaker 2: to mate with so that you can have a humanity

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Speaker 3: So there would be people would survive aross Water right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you get it right. Exactly he goes across exactly. It's

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Speaker 3: exactly where he goes. You know, Uh, is Curb on

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Speaker 3: your list? I mean I think Curb to watch to

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Speaker 3: not know any of the I watched Curb on every flight.

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Speaker 2: It's on every flight, It's loaded up on every flight,

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Speaker 2: so I watched it on everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think comedy drama. I always leaned

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Speaker 2: tell you what I don't know. Here's how Game of

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Speaker 2: Throne should have ended for Mead John snow kills the

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Speaker 3: And just leave it. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: supposed to do. She took out Walder Fray. She did

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Speaker 2: no faces, I get it, all right, Snow should have

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Speaker 3: That was the whole point. I think they thought killing

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Speaker 2: But they didn't make They didn't flesh that out.

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Speaker 3: It didn't make anything. No kills, and you can't have

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Speaker 3: he kills at night King Fad Black and everything gets

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Speaker 3: figured out. Tyrian by that point can't be in charge

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Speaker 2: He's the most competent and second in the history of incompetent.

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Speaker 3: and brand or whatever his name is. That guy couldn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I think it's I think.

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Speaker 3: The I'll just say, you know what, I've decided that

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Speaker 3: I don't want out of a drama anymore, like real

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Speaker 3: life drama happens oh yeah enough. Yeah, I don't need

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Speaker 3: I need I That's why I like or mob So

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Speaker 3: that's like not my world I don't need to see.

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Speaker 2: I like the period pieces like take Me Back one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty years, like I'll do that that Warriors watch.

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Speaker 3: For example, there's some show that came out four seasons. Okay,

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Speaker 3: No, I wish that would be fun. They're not on

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Speaker 3: Free throw mat sure everybody's everybody did.

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Speaker 2: I don't There used to be this adage that you'd

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Speaker 2: you don't have this. You don't have this notion of

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Speaker 2: I just think, let's keV, I think if you just

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Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, now, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know NFL teams do it. Everybody does. How can you

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting that Darius Garland is faking an injury.

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Speaker 7: The court standing up and you're now.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt. In my mind, I'm with keV on this.

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Speaker 2: If you're hurt, they're injured, but they just I think

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I don't think you'd have the pushback.

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Speaker 3: Ronnie Lott would cut that toe off and he would

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Speaker 7: We Love You again when Ronnie Lott played.

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Speaker 3: Guys, he just he puts you back in the will

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Speaker 3: he's moving to Northeast Ohio. On that statement, I just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all the reports earlier in the day he couldn't

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Speaker 3: Can you give a few good minutes? What's his injury?

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Speaker 3: You can play with that, so you don't shoot, you

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Speaker 2: If need be, well in that one, you probably on

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a great star. This will be

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna like this all future earnings in Superstars,

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Speaker 3: It's the greatest event ever. How is your shoulder nowadays?

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Speaker 2: What is what is Superstars?

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Speaker 4: Baby?

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Speaker 3: What is it? What is Superstars? I want to know

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Speaker 3: That's my name?

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Speaker 5: I don't know what your name.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Superstars is. The Superstars is competition

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Speaker 2: So it is Thursday night, So that Thursday night, this

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Speaker 5: That wasn't the.

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Speaker 3: Story of glory. It's just saying I'm saying how low

438
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Speaker 3: the steaks were, how low the stakes were, and and

439
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: what I sacrificed. Go ahead tell the people. I wasn't

440
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: gonna tell people. I've already told that my brother story.

441
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Speaker 3: That was it.

442
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: So you're you're overcoming your injury in.

443
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: The super for nothing? Really, No, for nothing. Paedro just

444
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: wrote your back out. No, I'm waiting for that. You

445
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: love that toughness. I had this crazy harness on my

446
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: shoulder and when I hit a softball, it would pop

447
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: out and they'd have to go like and pop it

448
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: back in. Did I complain?

449
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 4: No?

450
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: Was I playing ga on the bench with Gibbe? No,

451
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I was out there competing for my mates.

452
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 5: Wouldn't find me on the bench.

453
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Speaker 3: Now he's going to get in the will for that

454
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: statement that gets you back in there. No, the Ronnie

455
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Speaker 3: lot one that is that's got me. That's years of

456
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Speaker 3: good behavior right there.

457
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Speaker 2: What is your most painful sports because this isn't it.

458
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Speaker 2: I mean, if they lose this series, then this is

459
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Speaker 2: going to be a game you're going to remember. But

460
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Speaker 2: Gibb most painful sports memory as a child, of course.

461
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Speaker 5: He asked this question. No, no, I have two of them.

462
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Speaker 3: One, No, you know mine.

463
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 5: I had a stress fracture playing in a high school

464
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 5: basketball camp for the entire weekend and had no business

465
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Speaker 5: playing on it. You didn't realize it was as bad

466
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Speaker 5: as it was till I got home and like my

467
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: parents were like, take your shoe off a week and see,

468
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Speaker 5: and I'm like, I can't. Right to the er, I

469
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 5: played eight games in two days. Yeah, fine, well all right,

470
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 5: but I tore my ACL playing in an intern's rec

471
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Speaker 5: league game and then had to drive myself home and

472
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: it was forty minutes away, so I had to use

473
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Speaker 5: two feet to drive myself home with a torn a

474
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Speaker 5: cl and MC.

475
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Speaker 3: That's solid, by the way, screaming a says quote, you

476
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: gotta be dang near crippled if you're not going to

477
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Speaker 3: get out there and play again.

478
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Speaker 6: That's that's an old school mentality that we know more today.

479
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 6: Guys like, yeah, we've all played through injuries in a

480
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 6: dumb manner and now like we suffer effects of it.

481
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 6: Now they're they're the science that they have and working

482
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Speaker 6: with the Cleveland Clinic, like the Cavs do they know

483
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Speaker 6: more and if they can't go, I'm gonna believe them

484
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Speaker 6: that they can't go.

485
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Speaker 7: I just wanted to be more open about what the

486
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Speaker 7: exact injury is.

487
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Speaker 3: I like though, if a player says that I can go,

488
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Speaker 3: he can go. Yeah, but I think Kevin, if DeAndre

489
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Speaker 3: Hunter said I'm playing, he should be allowed to play,

490
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: and they probably would. Let me tell you something, you know,

491
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: it's a mortal. Is winning a title, that's a mortal.

492
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: That's a mortal. Yeah, that does, that lasts, That lasts.

493
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: Rob Pain is temporary.

494
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Speaker 5: It is pain leaving the body.

495
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Speaker 7: You're said than done.

496
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: It is easier said, But that's because the Superstars you

497
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Speaker 3: did it totally.

498
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Speaker 2: It's been done, been done, indicated.

499
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Speaker 5: Look, I just need him healthy and I need him

500
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Speaker 5: back on the.

501
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Speaker 3: Florida aggravation from a WrestleMania nineteen injury at Safeco Field.

502
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Speaker 2: You were involved in WrestleMania nineteen.

503
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Speaker 3: No, I was involved in a freakis, of course you were.

504
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: Do they win this series? Yes, how about that?

505
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Speaker 5: I think that? Yeah, I think it comes down to

506
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: a game seven. I don't know that. I think it

507
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: goes seven.

508
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Speaker 4: Kids.

509
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Speaker 2: If it goes seven, it's definitely not Yeah, they're not

510
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Speaker 2: winning four in a row. I don't think that's happening.

511
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: No, and I gotta you got to see where these

512
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Speaker 3: injuries are too. Game six is going to be massive.

513
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: And if you're up, if I would expect coming back

514
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: from into your down three is it two three to two? No,

515
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: two two one one, I would expect coming back from

516
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: into your down three to one, right, win game five?

517
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: Then you got to win game six. Then it gets

518
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: very interesting. Yeah, show them the sign there a CBD

519
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: the World's team. No there. I don't think they're done

520
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: at all. First of all, they were. They played so

521
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: poorly in game one and barely lost Game two there

522
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: without three of their starters and gave the game away

523
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: at the end. They're the better team. You have to

524
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: win four out of five. That's totally doable. All of

525
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: the road teams have won all of the games first time.

526
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Speaker 3: I think ever that the four in this stage round

527
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Speaker 3: of the playoffs, that the four home teams all lost

528
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Speaker 3: the first game of the series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we lost our first two. Steph with a

530
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Speaker 2: hammy last night that.

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Speaker 5: He will miss a week. It just came out right.

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Speaker 7: I guess he should go out there and play right.

533
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Speaker 4: Coming.

534
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: I just saying coming. Soft tissue is very different. I

535
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: think there's very different.

536
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Speaker 7: There's a lot of differences.

537
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Speaker 3: All these injuries.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't mean he went to medical school.

539
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 5: He did.

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Speaker 3: I haven't.

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Speaker 7: Physical arabs and walked me through.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go, there you go, keV. Good job.

543
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, keV. The day before the Thursday,

544
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: before I was set to get into the squared circle,

545
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: I popped my right glute completely off the boat. True story.

546
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: I never told the story before to day and Brett Breski,

547
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: bred Pukarsky got me ready to go, and I went

548
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Speaker 3: out there and I competed and I won.

549
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Speaker 2: Anyway that you did that sounded like, thank you you

550
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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 7: It was soft tissue injury.

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Speaker 3: So step I was out there off the I don't know,

554
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Speaker 3: does he have a parski. I don't know he's got

555
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Speaker 3: one of.

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Speaker 6: Those is the guy I'm just trying to get out

557
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Speaker 6: there the like that is the That is the reason.

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Speaker 3: I think you're worried about walking down the street and

559
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Speaker 3: running into Garland Mobiley and DeAndre Hunter who I all.

560
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Speaker 3: I think all of them are awesome. I think that

561
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: we gotta find a way. We got to find a way.

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00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about.

563
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Speaker 7: Running into them and like saying something bad about them.

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Speaker 6: I just want, like the reason why they lost yesterday

565
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 6: to be the main conversation and not those guys.

566
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Speaker 2: Recently lost this because they can't inbound the ball.

567
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: Yes, well that block out that was just in I

568
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: also think those are the two reasons right there. I'm

569
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Speaker 3: gonna tell you that's I'm gonna just kind of disagree

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00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: with Garland's playing yesterday. They win that game by a

571
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: lot because he gets tied. Jerome the heck out of there,

572
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: because that was just off day time, great.

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Speaker 7: Players, cruciating to watch, excruci.

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Speaker 3: I would rather play the guy who came in and

575
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: had that nice steal Porter Jr.

576
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, minutes in the second half.

577
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: Definitely should have.

578
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Speaker 2: Well, now we're going to fire the coach Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year on.

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Speaker 8: The day the coach got Iron the coach, but you question,

581
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 8: he's not prepared for this, prepare for this bomb prolarm.

582
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: No, that's what I said. That was into my group

583
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Speaker 3: chat this morning.

584
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Speaker 5: Everybody rosted.

585
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: Let's go settled down.

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00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: We did have an NFL trade.

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Speaker 5: You want to talk about it next?

588
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,200
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Speaker 3: We had a.

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00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Trade this morning in the National Football League. It involved

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00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. George Pickens goes to Dallas along with

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Speaker 2: a sixth round pick for a twenty twenty six third

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Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty seven to fifth.

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Speaker 3: Why now, Because what I had heard was that during

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Speaker 3: the draft they were only willing to offer a fourth.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: So would you rather have a fourth now or a third?

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Speaker 3: That's typically the calculus. It's a fourth if you trade

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Speaker 3: to fourth this year for a future third, so basically

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Speaker 3: the same. But I guess the Steelers saying we want

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Speaker 3: a third, so that that's why it happened. Now they

612
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: were not ready to do that, and now they were

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Speaker 3: tell you what pickens in the contract year ceedee lamb

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00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: Dak like Ferguson.

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00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Jiff Jared finally did something, yes, which you watch the

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Speaker 2: Commis pass him over last year.

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Speaker 3: He watched the.

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Speaker 2: Damas win the Super Bowl two in the last decade. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, I think he's now.

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Speaker 3: And he watched the g Men acquire a great many quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He really did. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think from the from the Dallas perspective, it all

623
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Speaker 2: makes all the sense of the world. It's a lot

624
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: on Brian Schottenheimer a lot, and it is.

625
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Speaker 3: And it's obviously when we know historically when Mike Tomlin

626
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: says get out, it hasn't worked out very well.

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Speaker 2: No, no, And we were talking like, how do they

628
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: end up with these guys because we had George Pickens

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Speaker 2: in here in the pre draft process and he yepd.

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Speaker 3: Himself from yeah, pre traft process despite being.

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Speaker 2: Absurdly Yeah, but Pittsburgh historically has said we will take

632
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: that risk because our culture is strong enough that we

633
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 2: can overcome it. Now they've had several instances now a

634
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: bunch at receiver where in like Claypool they got out

635
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: of that quick. What a win second round pick for that,

636
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: that's unbelievab a guy, he's right, But like there's a

637
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 2: bunch of these instances where Pittsburgh has an receiver, especially

638
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: when they wear out there welcome in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburg's like, yeah,

639
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: we're done. There aren't a whole lot of reclamation projects.

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00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Deontay will try to do that here, but it's rare

641
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: that like it runs out there and there's more in

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Speaker 2: the tay.

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Speaker 3: Here's the difference. You're talking about a guy that is

644
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: a freak who has despite all of his shenanigans and whatnot,

645
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: with I think what could be is fair to be

646
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: considered either a substandard offensive system, which it certainly was

647
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: in twenty two and twenty three with Matt Canada and

648
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: not a team that was really throwing the football for

649
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: big numbers. No, when Canada was there and Kenny Pickett

650
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: was the quarterback. And yet he's averaged basically nine hundred

651
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: and fifty yards and sixteen point three yards of catch

652
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: per season over three the last two years, he's put

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Speaker 3: up two thousand and forty yards. Two years ago he

654
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: led the NFL eighteen point one yards of catching. He

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Speaker 3: does that as a six three, two hundred pound wide

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00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: receiver who is a nasty blocker, and you can ask

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00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: some of the people around the league, very nasty. He's

658
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: average for his career nine point seven yards per target.

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: That is so ridiculously elite like that is very rarefied air.

660
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: He is an elite talent. He obviously is a handful.

661
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: So that that juice which is at is tasty juice,

662
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: fresh squeeze. It is delightful from a nice maybe a

663
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: Valencia Orange. I don't know, but they're saying we don't

664
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: want that juice, not worth it? So can Dallas get

665
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: it together? If so, you have landed a top. I

666
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: think he is I don't think it is out of

667
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: bounds to say that he is a top ten receiver

668
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: talent in the NFL.

669
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think from that perspective, it puts them just talent.

670
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: It puts them there with Cincinnati and Minnesota and maybe

671
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: even my well, not Miami anymore, because I don't know

672
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: what's going on with Tyreek. It puts him right there

673
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: with Minnesota and Cincinnati and Philly.

674
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: In Philly and Minnesota, JJ is so good, but Seedee

675
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: Lamb is that good.

676
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: Addison's pretty damn good to Asen's.

677
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: Very let's look at look at them. Think it looks

678
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: I like it. I'm listening. I'm a big guest.

679
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: I think I think Minnesota's is pretty nice. I mean,

680
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: he's had some injury stuff, but I think Minnesota is

681
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: pretty good. And obviously Cincinnati's.

682
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Addison's gone nine seventy five, Asen scored nineteen touchdowns in

683
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: two years. Yeah, so he's right there.

684
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: And I think I think same thing with the Cincinnati situation.

685
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: And they obviously Hill and Waddle, Hill and Waddle, Yeah, yeah,

686
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: I think they're maybe above that right now. I'd see

687
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: what happens with with Hill this year, and then Smith

688
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: and Brown.

689
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they're right there. Maybe because it's just so

690
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: reliant on speed that when.

691
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: You yeah, when you lose even a millimalit you know,

692
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: an eighth of a step, that's the differentiator.

693
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: For it's just crazy to go seventeen ten, seventeen ninety

694
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: nine and then nine to fifty nine.

695
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and it puts Pittsburgh in a position

696
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: where and I think this is the queste When I

697
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: assumed it, because this has been rumored forever, like the

698
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Pickens deal, I assumed that they were going to say, here, Aaron,

699
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: all we need is a quarterback. We have two a

700
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: AA minus receivers in Metcalf and Pickens. We have addressed

701
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: the ground game, Warren's already here, and then we addressed

702
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: it with Johnson out of Iowa in the third round.

703
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: So now we have that, We got Friarmouth, we get

704
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: a really good defense. Drop in here, and you're all

705
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: we need to go compete for a super Bowl. And

706
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: people could say that's not a super Bowl team, But

707
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: from Rogers' perspective, you could at least talk yourself into it.

708
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: You could say, put me on there, give me two

709
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: a list weapons on the outside for our moot down

710
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: the middle. That run game that defense, that culture, all

711
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, I can see myself winning there. So

712
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: I assume they we're going to keep him for Rogers.

713
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: My assumptional all along, is that Rogers is going to

714
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: be a Steeler and that both sides know it.

715
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe they don't.

716
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Because I look at this roster now and you think

717
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: about so they still have Metcalf. They're obviously banking on

718
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson to come along in a big way. They

719
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: acquired Robert Woods. But it's been a long time.

720
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: I can't hear you say that without thinking about the

721
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: g Man. I know, always inner situations on am Big Way,

722
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Big Way. Here's all you need to look for. You

723
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: want signs, Yeah, Randall Cobb comes out of retirement, signs

724
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: with the Steelers and they trade for Alan Wizard. Yeah,

725
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: because he can't get DeVante Adams anymore. No, he's a

726
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: ram So yeah, I just I don't know. To me,

727
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: this almost makes me think that he's not coming there.

728
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: It makes me, at the very least say that they

729
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, because if he was coming, they would

730
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: want he would want Pickens.

731
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: If he was coming, wouldn't he wouldn't you want him

732
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: in your building, learning the offense and throwing the ball

733
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: with his boys. Yeah, of course.

734
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of these guys aren't at this stuff.

735
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I know a lot of them are learning new offenses.

736
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: But a lot of these I be.

737
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: A lot of quarterbacks are there that certainly, like I

738
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: would bet Sam Darnold is participating. Oh yeah, new quarterback

739
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: Myth is participating. I'm sure Russ and Jamis are participating theirs.

740
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very interesting from their perspective, what what the

741
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: plan is? It is interesting, but they've gotten worse talent

742
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: wise yet certain they very easily because there's there's been rumors,

743
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: you know, for a while about TJ. I mean there's

744
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: a lot going on there. He's trying to get a

745
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: new contract done. They could pivot. They've never done it.

746
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: They've never rebuilt. They would ever had a losing season.

747
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: They've never rebuilt.

748
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: If if TJ. Watt gets traded, then I could believe

749
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: that they are one rebuilding.

750
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: If they don't get Rogers, I think they're rebuilding. Yeah,

751
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: because there's no other Why what what are you doing here?

752
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: Like I don't need to see Mason. And by the way,

753
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: if they don't get Rogers, then play will Howard. I

754
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: don't need to see Mason Rudolph do anything. Yeah, at

755
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: this point play will Howard like and and go from there,

756
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: there's no point in it. Yeah, So yeah, I think

757
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a very I still think it's absolutely stupefying.

758
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: What days today, May seventh, May seventh. Yeah, and they

759
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: don't have their quarterback room sorted out. Correct that organization.

760
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's weird.

761
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: What I'm saying it is quite weird.

762
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: A couple other things around the league. The Jaguars release

763
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver Gabe Davis last offseason segety three year, nine

764
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: million dollar deal, played just ten games, catching twenty for

765
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: two thirty nine. Look, physically, it checks every single box.

766
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: He was a fantasy football darling a couple of years

767
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: ago with Josh Allen and the Bills and it just

768
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: never really happened. But physically he would be among the

769
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: things we would like. I mean, we need kind of

770
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: that guy, deep threat, go run nine routes that would

771
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: seem to apply. But so I'm guessing we would kick

772
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: the tires on Gabe Davis.

773
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 3: We thought about it for a while. By the way,

774
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: I think that there's a part of it that where

775
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: you could say that he could make sense for the Steelers.

776
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: Ye know, he was a big vertical guy who had

777
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: a lot deep success there in Buffalo for a few years,

778
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: and you're talking about from a yards catch standpoint. It

779
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: just never worked out for him at all in Jacksonville.

780
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: He was injured and just quite frankly, he was unproductive

781
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: while he was there. Two hundred thirty nine yards the

782
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: years before. Though in Buffalo in four years there, the

783
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: average basically about seven hundred yards a season. Is that

784
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: right now? Four seasons twenty six A bet, Yeah, almost

785
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: twenty hundred. But yea seven hundred yard season, sixteen point

786
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: seven yards of catch, and he caught basically seven touchdowns

787
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: a season. You would certainly take that on this football team.

788
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: Big guy can run.

789
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: But is.

790
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: Was last year the anomaly, the mirage They cut him, like, yeah,

791
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: you don't even have a role here. I know you

792
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: got Brian Thomas at Hunter, but I think there's got

793
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: to be some way. Is Kirk's still there? Maybe that's why, Yeah,

794
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: I think Kirk is still there. Is he still there?

795
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: I would think? So it feels like it makes sense. Yeah,

796
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 3: they've got Brian Thomas Junior Christian. Oh no, Kirk's gone, seven,

797
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 3: Ara's gone. Where's Kirk? Is he in Arizona? I don't

798
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: know Christian Kirks on the Texans. Wow, I didn't have that.

799
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. And then they drafted like a

800
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: bunch of receivers and they have Nico. Yeah they did.

801
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but he could be he could That could

802
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: make some sense here and I think I think anytime

803
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: we can add receivers.

804
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: He wanted it.

805
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Raiders co owner Tom Brady was on

806
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: the Impulsive podcast.

807
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: Logan is that what that is?

808
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: Okay?

809
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: He was on and was asked about should or Sanders

810
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: and why he fell in the draft.

811
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: Here's Tom Brady, elephant in the room. Should Ar Sanders?

812
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: Why did he go so late in the draft?

813
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: I mean, there's I it's a good question.

814
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: I was.

815
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 9: I wouldn't have part of any evaluation process or otherwise. Well,

816
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 9: everyone's got every you know, that's a problem with media

817
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 9: is everyone could just say whatever they want.

818
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: I actually texted Shador because I'm know him very.

819
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 9: Well, and I said, dude, like, whatever happens wherever you go,

820
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 9: Like that's your first day day two, Matt. There is

821
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 9: more than the draft. I was one ninety nine. Yeah,

822
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 9: so who could speak on it better than me? Like

823
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 9: what that really means? Use it as motivation. You're gonna

824
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 9: get your chances, Go take advantage of it.

825
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: I love what he said at the end, ready to

826
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: file tampering charges. I love what he said at the end.

827
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: I think that clearly there are people and now he's

828
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: in the media, which is interesting about his comment before.

829
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: But we've talked about this all the time. There is

830
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: absolutely no accountability or no keeping it. You can say

831
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: anything that you want about anything and just move on

832
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 3: the next day like you never said it. Yeah, that's

833
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: the that's the world we live in. That's right. Yeah,

834
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: that sounded like he was not pleased with that world.

835
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: He does, he doesn't enjoy that as well, but he's

836
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: in it. He lives in that world. It doesn't.

837
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean we as a society, we have

838
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: gotten to the point where Cassans is it's not a lie.

839
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: If you believe it is standard operating, Yep, it's your truth,

840
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, I think that's that's part of it.

841
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: In addition to one other bit of a shodhoords and

842
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: will be Friday, is that when we go rookies.

843
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: Rookie mini camp. We'll be outside.

844
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: I'll be fine.

845
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: Bring the sun screen in a hat. I have no tent,

846
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 5: but that's all right, I got it.

847
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be that hot though, right, I could

848
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: use a little bit seven.

849
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe upper sixties pushing seventy little sun.

850
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I got sixty. I get seven. Good news.

851
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: I got a building we can go into and break

852
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 5: or something.

853
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm not worried about being cold. I'm just

854
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: saying I've got sixty. You guys still have seventy for Friday.

855
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, baby, I believe so. Man, this is going to

856
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: be a real I don't anymore.

857
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: Fifty nine.

858
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone's coming back.

859
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: Twenty miles an hour.

860
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: Everybody's coming back.

861
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: Boys.

862
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 5: Connor's filling in today. He's not very pleased.

863
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: You guys thought you're gonna get a warm weekend or

864
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: a warm Friday. Friday.

865
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: You're not no warm Fridays at all. Yeah, the weekend

866
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: looks like it'd be and I shall be low seventies

867
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: for the weekend. But yeah, this is the rest of

868
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: this week is going to be. We just got to

869
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: get through it. Sixty seven to fifty five, sixty is

870
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: the way that stands. So a Shore Sanders fan is

871
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: suing the NFL for one hundred million dollars because of

872
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: the slide in the draft. The suit is for damages

873
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: for the harm cause to the plaintiff and the impact

874
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: to the NFL's actions on his emotional well being.

875
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: This is a fan.

876
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, this is absolute absurdity.

877
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: Craziness, this absurdity.

878
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: Oh, I know, someone needs a hobby.

879
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: They sure do, they absolutely sure do. So there you

880
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: go around the league. Coming up next, every NFL team's

881
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: biggest off season need after the draft. An interesting assignment

882
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: for us. We will get to that coming up next

883
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Speaker 2: All right, So I did see that. By the way,

889
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: I am envious the NF NHL. They've had some expansion teams,

890
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: they had some franchise movements. They've got to they've gotten

891
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: to redo epic. So you have the Seattle crack in

892
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: or New Las Vegas Golden Knights, New All such, both

893
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: of those, and today we have the Utah Mammoth. They

894
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: were supposed to be Utah Yetties, but YETI the Cooler

895
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: company said no, can't do it.

896
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: True.

897
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: US Patent Office said no, Dice can't use it. YETI

898
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: fought it, said no, So they were going to be

899
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Utah Yeties, which would have been awesome.

900
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: The pivot all that, A cooler says, they have the

901
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: intellectual property over what I believe is not a mythical creature,

902
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: but a creature that lives in the Himalias. That's that's correct,

903
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: That's impossible. Well they did it, So what do they are?

904
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: They taking the yetti out of Escape to Everest at

905
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: disney World.

906
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: You know, I just rode that ride at Disneyland and

907
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if he was there.

908
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: Not Disneyland. Yeah, they have one of those there too.

909
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: They added you talking about the matter horn, dude, the

910
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: matter horn. It's a classic.

911
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: That was a snowy mountain.

912
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 3: It's a matter horn. Yeah, I don't know talking Disneyland, California.

913
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just there a matter it's the matter horn.

914
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Ever, sex editions at Animal Kingdom and Disney World

915
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: different rides. The Matter Horn is a classic where you

916
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: ride the bob sled. Yeah that's it. Yeah, Yeah, I

917
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: don't know if it was they use they definitely it is.

918
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: It's a classic. It is probably doesn't hold up like

919
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: ever Sex Edition holds up better today. But if you

920
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: grew up going on it, which you did not, yeah,

921
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh it's that was like something like you got to

922
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: ride the matter and seeing abominable snow man, it's.

923
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there is one? Was there one in there?

924
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? There's multiple in there. Yeah, maybe there is. And

925
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: a little fun fact for you. The song Tragic Kingdom,

926
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 3: which I believe is the titular song on the album

927
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Tragic Kingdom by No Doubt. Yeah, dubs the voice that

928
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: plays while you're in the bob slid before you get going,

929
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: and it's Spanish. It sounds like it says something like

930
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 3: seventy cents on Tabo's Porf of War remain seated please.

931
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah that's from the Matterhorn. Oh really, and that's in

932
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: that song. Oh that's pretty good.

933
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 5: So there you go.

934
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just wrote it again. Learn to take that

935
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: to your local barn.

936
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm always very I'm envious because they've gotten to do

937
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: all of these branding and redesigns from scratch totally. So

938
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: they had Golden Knights, they had cracking, and now they

939
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: have this and this one. So they pivoted to mammoth

940
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: because yet they wouldn't let him use So I think

941
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: this crushes great color scheme.

942
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: It's like a light blue and black. It's great, a

943
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: little bit of silver.

944
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: Mammoth's beautifuln The mammoth looks great, big tusk, great tusk

945
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: on a sweater. I think they can do a fox

946
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: back with like a standing mammoth, like a traditional looking mammoth.

947
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: It's going to be really good, There's no doubt.

948
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you make of this image that was

949
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: going around this morning of the stadium down on the water.

950
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: I think the comments speak for themselves. I think that

951
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 3: helps the case for brook Park. Look, I'm biased. I've

952
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: wanted a dome. I'm on record. This is one of those.

953
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Dude, you and I have been on record about a

954
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: dome going back to eighteen Before Night for sure, and

955
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: there was ever any thought of it.

956
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, I believe it was week four

957
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 3: of that season. We played Minnesota in Minnesota, and from

958
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: that moment, I just could not do anything but picture

959
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: us in a dome. So that's exactly where I've been

960
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: on record for a very very long time, before we

961
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: knew it was possible, before we knew it was possible. Yeah,

962
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like, let's just think about this from

963
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: the Cuyahoga County standpoint. Number one, Let's all remember it

964
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: is one hundred percent true that the Browns would prefer

965
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: to build a dome downtown. There is not a suitable

966
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: location to do it. Yep. That has been proven Brook Lakefront.

967
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: The timing of it, the money that would have to

968
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: be spent to solidify that structure that's on top of

969
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: kind of the landfill there and all whatever that's not

970
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: would not be able to support the weight. So we

971
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: know that. So that's that's number one. We know that

972
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: they desired destination. But number two, we know that now

973
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: we have a great spot in brook Park, we have

974
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: beautiful stadium designed by the people who designed Minnesota and

975
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: sofi that is going to be a three plus billion

976
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: dollar investment in northeast Ohio, which would be, if not

977
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: the largest, one of the largest in record for Cuyahoga County.

978
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: In northeast Ohio. And the alternative is to still spend

979
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: one million dollars to basically put an exoskeleton, yeah, on

980
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: the current stadium that makes it look like the old

981
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 3: Richfield Coliseum and changes one changes nothing about the events

982
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: that can be held there. No, there's no roof you

983
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: said it, Yeah, changes nothing about we're gonna be able

984
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: to attract world class events anything. No, you won't be

985
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: able to do it. So you're gonna send a million dollars,

986
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: so a billion dollars to renovate a stadium that is

987
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: not one of the better in the league. No is

988
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: for what? What is the ROI on that one billion dollars?

989
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. Rois that stands for return on investment?

990
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: That should be dollars. What the ROI of that one

991
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: billion dollars is actually a negative from a financial standpoint.

992
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why a second. But what ROI should

993
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: be dollars? What ROI in this case is nostalgia. You

994
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: would be spending one billion dollars to be nostalgic about

995
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 3: where the football game is played. Yep, And you said

996
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: yourself the other day, nostalgia's dead. It is for kids,

997
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: it's long dead. So one billion dollars for nostalgia. Don't

998
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 3: get the dome, don't get world class events, don't bring

999
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: more money to this region, don't bring more tourists region,

1000
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: None of it.

1001
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: Still kind of two functional entrances.

1002
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: Ingress and egress is terrible, terrible. Parking situation is terrible.

1003
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 3: It's still outdoors, still outdoors, yep. Or you get the dome,

1004
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: you get this big investment we talked about. You do

1005
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: get all these events that come here. You do get

1006
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: an influx of money and tourists and all of these things.

1007
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: You get ROI more money will be spent in this

1008
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: region when you were able to attract WrestleMania's if you

1009
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: get a Buckeye game there, maybe big ten championships are

1010
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: played here never, no final.

1011
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Fills, National championship games, super bowls.

1012
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: All of it, okay, all in play, bigger, better concerts, floors, concerts,

1013
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: year round concerts, it stadium concerts and February, January and

1014
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: March and April and May and June, July, August, September, October, November, December,

1015
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: all of it, stadium tours, all of it. And here's

1016
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: the thing that we're not talking about. The opportunity cost

1017
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: of putting one billion dollars for nostalgia into that stadium

1018
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: is actually a net loser. N're one. People are not

1019
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: fond of the renderings that they've seen. That is not

1020
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: my I'm just saying that's the pole. Social media, you'll

1021
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: see that people are not happy, and in fact, many

1022
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 3: I've seen people say not me, but many are saying

1023
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: that this was the best advertisement for the dome that

1024
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: could have possibly happened. The other thing is, if you

1025
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: were to build the dome, you could then develop that

1026
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: lake front property and you could have homes we'll call

1027
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: it apartments or condos, high rises. You could have hotels,

1028
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: you could have restaurants, you could have office buildings, you

1029
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: could have all of those things there that are going

1030
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: to do what generate tax revenue for the city every day,

1031
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: year round, baby, every single day. So that is a

1032
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: win for the development of downtown. You get a state

1033
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: of the art facility. That's a win for Northeast Ohio

1034
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: and more money, more tourists, all of it coming North Throught, Ohio.

1035
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: So to me, it doesn't You could put three plus

1036
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: billion into a brand new dome yep. Or you could

1037
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: put one billion not have a dome into a save

1038
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 3: those built in nineteen hastily, by the way, in nineteen

1039
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: ninety nine. Yeah, it's twenty twenty five. It's been a

1040
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: long time, brother, Help me understand why that makes any

1041
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: sense other than the nostalgia of that it's on the lake.

1042
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

1043
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: That's it. Well done, out of you.

1044
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: J Morrison in a couple of minutes on the Bengals

1045
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: as they head into their rookie mini camps, and a

1046
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,720
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00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,040
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1057
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1058
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: SI's Bengal Talk dot com. Jay, thank you so much

1059
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: for taking the time. So I this is admittedly a

1060
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: bit of an odd one to start, but I'm just

1061
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: curious about this because you guys have been covering Joe

1062
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: Burrow for a while now, and I knew him when

1063
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 2: he was a high school kid at Plains High School

1064
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: in Athens, and I see him in this high fashion

1065
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: stuff that he is wearing, and I'm just curious, from

1066
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: your guys perspective, how well do you know him? How

1067
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: much does he give you guys in terms of his

1068
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: life and his thoughts on things.

1069
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 4: I would say very little. He to my knowledge, has

1070
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: not done a one on one with with any Beat

1071
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: writer since he arrived. He pretty much he'll stick to

1072
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 4: the national interviews and then he will do the podium

1073
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: they're required, the postgame press conferences, the Wenday press, Wednesday

1074
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: press conferences, that type of thing. I will say, though,

1075
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: he is pretty open and forthcoming in those those sessions,

1076
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: even though it's limited and you can't really just chat.

1077
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: I mean you can chat him up in the in

1078
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: the locker room a little bit. He prefers, He's made

1079
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: it known he prefers not to do the small talk,

1080
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: and I think most people are willing to accommodate that.

1081
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: But you look at some other quarterbacks and they kind

1082
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: of go into the coach speak mold mode on the

1083
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: das for those press conferences, and and Joe's been pretty

1084
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: open and honest, and so I don't want to say

1085
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 4: we don't know him at all, because he does give

1086
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: a glimpse, but there's there's still a lot behind him.

1087
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: I think that that needs to be cracked.

1088
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: I ask in part because obviously this offseason feels like

1089
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: it's every and he made it abundantly clear at all

1090
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: those podium sessions, like I want these guys back. Well,

1091
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: most of them feel like they're coming back, and maybe

1092
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: all of them will. How forthcoming is he and what

1093
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: type of partner is he with the with the organization?

1094
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a large voice with that front office.

1095
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 4: Now they don't go they don't go to him for suggestions,

1096
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 4: but they absolutely take his his wishes into account and

1097
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: they do have conversations with him about these about roster constructions,

1098
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: that that type of things. They're they're not just doing

1099
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: what he says, but they they value his opinion in

1100
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: a way that I've I've never seen another player have

1101
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 4: that kind of voice with this front office, as they should.

1102
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, quite frankly, it feels like it feels rather appropriate

1103
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: because you don't want him to be like, I'm out

1104
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: of here. One guy who might be out of there,

1105
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: though we don't know yet at this point. Trey Hendrickson

1106
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: leave the league in sacks last year. Been a perennial

1107
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: Pro bowler and one of the best edge rushers in

1108
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: the game for a long long time. We saw Chase

1109
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: get paid, we saw Higgins get paid. What's going on

1110
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: with Trey Hendrickson.

1111
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: Right now. Nothing. It's kind of at a standstill. There's

1112
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: not much happening. I know, you know, Trey wants a

1113
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 4: new contract. He's due fifteen to twenty million this year.

1114
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 4: Each of the last two off seasons, he's he's kind

1115
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: of floated the idea of requesting a trade and voicing

1116
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: his displeasure with his contract. They acquiesced a couple of

1117
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: years ago and gave him a one year extension, which

1118
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: kind of ruled out getting one last year. He had

1119
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 4: to wait a certain amount of time where you can

1120
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: even get another extension, and he did. He's he's even

1121
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 4: when he got here, he was very underpaid, and then

1122
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: you look at what he's done the last two years

1123
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: and leading the league in sacks last year was seventeen

1124
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: and a half, seventeen and a half a year before

1125
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 4: that as well. You look at the other edge rushers,

1126
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 4: the Miles care and those guys up thirty forty million

1127
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: a year. He is criminally underpaid. But the Bengals have

1128
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: the leverage and they can say, yeah, we want to

1129
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 4: stab you, but they want to do it at their price,

1130
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: and it's not a price trade happy with. And so

1131
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: the Bengals can sit back and say take there or

1132
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: leave it. Either take our offer or we force you

1133
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: to play this year on the original contract. And I

1134
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: don't know if he would hold out. He's also floaded

1135
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: the idea or his agent has at least of retiring

1136
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 4: that was the case last year if he didn't get

1137
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: a new deal even though he was ineligible for one.

1138
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 4: So it's going to be I think this is going

1139
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: to drag out for a while. I know the Bengals

1140
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: would like to sign him and he would like to

1141
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: stay here, but they're they're far apart on what that

1142
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 4: compensation looks like.

1143
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: Has there been any whisper of another team wanting to

1144
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: come in and try to acquire or is maybe that

1145
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: helping the Bengals case that maybe market isn't as robust

1146
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: as he was thinking.

1147
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the reason they allowed him to seek

1148
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: trade inquiries or you know, explore that option. And the

1149
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: compensation just wasn't there. Whether it was what the teams

1150
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 4: were willing to give the Bengals in terms of either

1151
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 4: a player or draft picks as compensation, or whether it

1152
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: was what the team was offering Trey in terms of

1153
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: an extension want to deal with Dodge. It just didn't

1154
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 4: work out, and I think that is leading to Trey's frustration,

1155
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: and it's leading to the Bengals kind of digging in

1156
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: and saying, here's our offer. It's going to sit there

1157
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: until you decide yes or no.

1158
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: Last year, this team was elite offensively, and yet they

1159
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: did not make the playoffs. What reason is there to believe,

1160
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: because it really doesn't seem like they've done a ton

1161
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: that this defense is going to be any better this year.

1162
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of it is is hope and faith.

1163
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 4: That's an interesting to bank on, but there is some

1164
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: validity to it because they two cornerbacks Dax Hill and

1165
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: DJ Turner the second both from Michigan, were really coming

1166
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: into their own and playing well, and both suffered season

1167
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: ending injuries last year. The other thing is the change

1168
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 4: at coordinator, getting rid of lou An Arumo after he'd

1169
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: been here since that came in in twenty nineteen and

1170
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 4: moving on to Al Golden. You know, Al Golden not

1171
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: only led Notre Dame to the National Championship Game, had

1172
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: a really good career at Notre Dame as their defense coordinator.

1173
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: But he's he's been an NFL coach for a long time.

1174
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: He was the Bengals linebacker coach the year they went

1175
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. That was just the last game

1176
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 4: he coached with the Bengals was the Super Bowl that

1177
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: they lost to the Rams before he went to Notre Dame.

1178
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: And so he has a relationship with some of these guys,

1179
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: and there's just there was a lot of talk last

1180
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: year when the Bengals kind of got things going in

1181
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: the right direction and won five games to end the season,

1182
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: defense started playing a little better, and now that the

1183
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 4: lou firing is official, there's been even more talk. A

1184
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: lot of players were frustrated last year with how complex

1185
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: the defense was and lose reluctance to turn to some

1186
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: of these younger guys because the defense was so complex

1187
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: and he didn't trust them to do everything right. And

1188
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: then it just got to a point where they were

1189
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: four and eight and they said, Okay, we've got no

1190
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: other choice. We just need to simplify this. Just let

1191
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 4: the guys go out and run and play football. And

1192
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: you saw a major change. And so I think we're

1193
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: going to see more of that from from Al Golden

1194
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: as well, just a lot a lot more black and

1195
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 4: white in the scheme and not as much gray and

1196
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: trying to think on the fly.

1197
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: Jay and they went defense defense in the draft with

1198
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart, the edge out of A and M, and

1199
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: the Demetrius Knight, the linebacker out of South Carolina. Obviously, Stuart,

1200
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: you're banking on I mean, the production isn't quite there

1201
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: at an M, but you're banking on the physical trades,

1202
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: which are elite. Are they expecting those two guys to

1203
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: slot in right away and be difference makers and.

1204
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: Do they need to be?

1205
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: Yes, they do need to be, and yes they are

1206
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: counting on Demetrius Knight, that the linebacker. I you know,

1207
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here right now writing a story about what's

1208
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: going on with Jermaine Pratt. It's been clear since the

1209
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 4: season ended he was going to be a cut candidate.

1210
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: He's still on the roster. He was not at OTAs

1211
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: at the open practice yesterday. But with Stewart, I don't know.

1212
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 4: I think they're still leaning into Miles Murphy is the

1213
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 4: edge rusher that's going to start opposite a Trey Henderson.

1214
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: But there's a room for Schamars to it. He can

1215
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 4: play inside. He's going to be in a rotation Russian

1216
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: off the edge and given Miles Murphy a break, and

1217
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: they are counting on him, and it is again it's

1218
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: a little bit of hope and faith when you look

1219
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: at a guy that had four and a half sacks

1220
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 4: in college and one and a half last year to

1221
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: come in and be a difference maker. But you look

1222
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: at his film and the things he can do against

1223
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: the run in chasing guys down and setting the edge,

1224
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: and it's just different game in college now, they're not

1225
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 4: facing the pro styles where quarterbacks are dropping back to pass.

1226
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: It's one, two, three gets rid of the ball, and

1227
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of guys coming out of college

1228
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: with a ton of sacks, at least not at the

1229
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: high level in the SEC what he played. So they

1230
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: think those trades are really going to translate into production,

1231
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 4: whether that sacks or whether that's just pressures that force

1232
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: incompletions or bad decisions or even interceptions. They are really

1233
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: high on Shamar Stewart Jay.

1234
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: When you look at this team, we talked about some

1235
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: of the young guys they're counting to step up, and

1236
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 3: really that's been the problem is they haven't hit on

1237
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: some of those early draft picks on the defensive side

1238
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: of the ball, and that's led to the situation because

1239
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: it certainly hasn't been from a lack of trying or

1240
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 3: a lack of investment. I mean, you look at the defense,

1241
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: it's littered with their own draft picks, first, second, third

1242
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: rounds all over that defense. When you look at the offense,

1243
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: we were reading something the other day where it said

1244
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: the most improved position group for every team, and one

1245
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: of them for the Bengals, had the running back room

1246
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: by the addition of Samaji p Ryan and the drafting

1247
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: of Taj Brooks in the sixth round. Now, I'm a

1248
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: big Chase Brown guy. He helped me tremendously in my

1249
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: fantasy leagues last year. Was a big believer in his

1250
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: he's a stud. I really am I missing it is that?

1251
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: Would you say that's the most improved position group, because

1252
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: in my mind, it's going to be Chase Brown and yeah,

1253
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: maybe p Ryan can help up on some third downs.

1254
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 3: It's nice to get him back, but I don't see

1255
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 3: how that really changes the calculation in that room.

1256
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, one of the underrated moves that they've

1257
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: made recently is they brought back Zach Moss as well.

1258
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 4: They signed him as a free agent last year to

1259
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 4: a two year deal from Indy and he actually started

1260
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: the season as the starter, and it was kind of

1261
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: that trusting again where they wanted the veteran in there

1262
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: and they were going to ease Chase Brown in and

1263
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: then Moss uff for the neck injury that ended his

1264
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 4: season and they thought it could be career ending and

1265
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 4: it's great news that it's not, and so they renegotiated

1266
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: his deal. They're bringing him back as well. So you've

1267
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 4: got Chase Brown, Zack Moss, you throw in p Ryan,

1268
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 4: who's really good on third downs, a really good pass

1269
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: protecting blocker, back there, which is a big area that

1270
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: this team needs to improve on. And Taj Brooks's yeah,

1271
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: we'll see. I mean he's done a lot in college

1272
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 4: in fifteen hundred yards each of the last two years.

1273
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: So I do think that that position group is great

1274
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: be improved, But I don't know. It's hard to say

1275
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: if it's the most improved on the team. But I'm

1276
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: struggling to think where they're better because there's all the guys,

1277
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 4: all the people they drafted to be an impact right away.

1278
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: There's still a lot of question to marks right now

1279
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: about will they be And they didn't do a lot

1280
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: in free agency either.

1281
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: Jay Big Pictures, Zee and I have been talking here

1282
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: over the off season about the teams that carry kind

1283
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: of the most pressure with them when we settle on

1284
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens and the Bills as two teams that it's

1285
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: their time, like it's time to go.

1286
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: They've been knocking on the door for a long time.

1287
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: This Bengals seem missed the postseason last year, but they

1288
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: got everything else that they wanted. They got Higgins back,

1289
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: they got Chase obviously extended. Seems like they're gonna have

1290
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: Hendrickson back. What type of pressure down there is there

1291
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: on whose feet does it fall? And do you sense

1292
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: a sense of urgency when these guys? I saw a

1293
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: lot of these guys were back yesterday. Is there a

1294
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: sense of urgency amongst the organization?

1295
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think there has to be, especially on Zach Taylor.

1296
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you you only get to blow up and

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Speaker 4: kind of scape go to coordinator once and and that's

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Speaker 4: kind of what they did with lou Anaerumo. And I

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Speaker 4: would say scapegoat because there was there. It wasn't an

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Speaker 4: unjustified firing. But yeah, when you do that, then all

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01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: of a sudden it's on you that did you make

1302
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Speaker 4: the right move? And can you get this team in

1303
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 4: the playoffs? A team with this kind of offense in

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and and and not just the pressure is

1305
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: not just there for January and February and getting into

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs and advancing. It's it's right off the bat

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Speaker 4: in September. This team has been so bad starting the

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Speaker 4: season fast, and it killed them again last year, and

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 4: so there's gonna be a lot of pressure in training

1310
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Speaker 4: camp and going into that season opener. And you look

1311
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 4: at the egg they laid against the bad Patriots team

1312
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: last year and in Week one, they win that game

1313
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, yeah, exactly. Nobody wanted them in the Boffs.

1314
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: There was a single playoff team that wanted the Bengals

1315
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: in the playoffs last year. No, no, not the way

1316
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: they were playing. So that that the pressure ramps up

1317
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 4: right away. Now they three and one in September four, No,

1318
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 4: it goes away a little bit. But if they start

1319
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 4: slow again, there's you're going to start hearing calls about

1320
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: is Zach even gonna finish this season?

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Speaker 2: Great stuff as always, Jay, appreciate you and giving us

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Speaker 2: a little bit of your time today, Thanks pal.

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Speaker 4: All right, great talking to you guys.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there he goes Jay Morrison of Bengalstalk dot Com,

1325
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Speaker 2: joining on the Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea Hotline, brought

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Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Right now, do

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Speaker 2: you have them in the postseason?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So three or two? Two from us? No, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh

1331
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: right now, definitely not three from us. Three from us

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Speaker 2: that we're getting into ten and seven. Let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We'll play a little inside the numbers coming up nextualist

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Speaker 3: For season two.

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Speaker 2: Brownsbackers, The Cleveland Browns Official Kid Club presented by University Hospitals, Rainbows,

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Speaker 2: com to join today. All right, Yes, we did this

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: with the rookies, and now we have new veteran numbers

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a little fun with as well. The

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: name of this game, misters quick interlude? Sorry or interjection?

1349
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: Are you aware of who's hosting Saturday Night Live this weekend?

1350
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: Uncle Baby Billy? That's right, yep, carry on, I forgot

1351
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: what I was gonna say. We're going through the number game,

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: Number game, Number game, Go ahead, go ahead, get.

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: A squirrel, look over here Tiger what bird what?

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good job to him.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: It is important though, fro uncle baby Billy.

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01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right?

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Speaker 5: Inside the numbers looking at the new numbers are vets

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Speaker 5: will wear. We did the rookies yesterday. Yep, that's today.

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Speaker 5: We will ask you the best Brown to ever wear

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 5: the number and the NFL great you think of when

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 5: you think of that number? And we'll kick things off

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Speaker 5: with Numero uno and the new uniform number for one.

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 5: Martin Emerson, Junia Nathan's gero.

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Speaker 3: He would be my favorite, but he hasn't worn it

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01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 3: yet in a game, so it doesn't count.

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: I also think, what do you think of him going

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: from twenty three to one? He wore one all the

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: way growing up, so I guess that's where it comes from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm five with that. I love HIMJMJ. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: I think he's a new leaf. He's motivated, he's right

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: a role. Let's go. There have only been three people

1374
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: to wear the number one in the history of the Browns.

1375
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: Juan Thornhill, Jalen Darden, which I don't remember that, boy,

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't recall that at all.

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 5: I don't remember.

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: And Michael Jackson. I do the receiver early nineties, so

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: that's why. So how did he how was he able

1380
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: to wear one? Were we out in one ninety two?

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: Eighties were all gone and so he do you have

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: any recollect.

1384
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: Ninety two he had seven hundred and fifty five yards

1385
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: seven touchdowns averaged sixteen yards of catch. I remember him

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01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: as a player.

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01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: I just don't know how he was able to wear

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01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: a single digit as a receiver unless all of our

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: eighties were issued.

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01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's because the first receiver who could wear

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: a teen was Keishawn Johnson was able to wear nineteen

1393
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: meshan he had to go back to the old school

1394
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: like Lance Alworth to get guys in the teens way

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01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: way back. But I don't yeah, I don't know. I

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: wonder how he got to wear one.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he's gonna be my favorite.

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 5: Was able to wear number one because it was available

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 5: when he was drafted in ninety one. He wore during

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 5: his first two seasons.

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01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 2: That's un well, all of a lot of singles would

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01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: have been by that rational. Anyone could have wore a

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: single digit. The eighties must have been taken. All the

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: eighties had to take. Yeah, that's the only way that.

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: All of them were. So he's my favorite brown. Yeah,

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 3: he's fine.

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: I favored has been given that many favorite all times

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: are very easy for you.

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 5: That's right.

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: Warren Moon, big arm, quarterback, greatest arm maybe an NFL history,

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: Warren Moon.

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: Now Jeff George has the greatest arm in NFL history,

1413
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: And we're going with Jeff George with the Atlanta Falcons

1414
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: wearing number one. It's that funny.

1415
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm gonna go Warren Moon on

1416
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: this one. Warren Moon feels like the number one for

1417
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: me on this one one? Do we like the single

1418
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: digit thing? That's the Fam five, isn't it?

1419
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: It's Warren Moon, Cam Newton as It would be another

1420
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: one that maybe gets some considering.

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: See, he wanted to wear two, but you know why

1422
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: he couldn't wear two. Jimmy Clo was wearing too, so

1423
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: he had to wear one. He wanted to wear two

1424
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: or two at.

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 3: A single digits You think it was because of the

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: Fan five.

1427
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: And he was the Fab five that made single digits school.

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: I think that they were the ones that they had

1429
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: a lot going on. I think they made single digit school.

1430
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: I think they made short school. I think they wore

1431
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: black nikes made those.

1432
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 3: They were cool. They were a lot of that.

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Duke was better because they actually had inbound plays

1434
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 5: that worked. They did and they knew how to call time.

1435
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: Back in those days, they had inbounds plays. They don't

1436
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 3: have him anymore.

1437
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: John Shire doesn't teach inbound plays.

1438
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 3: Boy didn't take it. Uh.

1439
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 5: Number two is wide receiver DeAndre Carter getting the esteemed

1440
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 5: number two Bold Movie feels like special team.

1441
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna be legendary anyway. I would say my

1442
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: favorite Brown to wear two would be Amari Cooper. He

1443
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: was awesome. Here's the list, Amari Cooper, Dustin Cole Quit

1444
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 3: not the Great Cole, Tim Couch, Zane Gonzalez, Reggie Hodges,

1445
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: John Football, Patrick Murray, Cody Parky, and Bailey ZAPPI you

1446
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: had Couch on there.

1447
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 4: M H.

1448
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: I think the number two up until recent years had

1449
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: the biggest discrepancy from stud college football players wearing it

1450
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: and then nobody.

1451
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 3: Wearing it in the NFL.

1452
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: No, because up until the late nineties there was really

1453
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: nobody who wore it. I think Jeter made it really

1454
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 2: popular because Jeter wore it with the Yankees. I think

1455
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: that made people open to wearing the number two, But

1456
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: it was not necessarily a cool number. In fact, I

1457
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: remember when Larry Johnson wore for at U and LV

1458
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: and then were two for the Charlotte Hornets.

1459
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: I'm like, due, who wears two?

1460
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: Like?

1461
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: I didn't look right?

1462
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: But Prime War two at Florida State, Chuck War two

1463
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 2: at Michigan, and those two guys along with Jeter, like,

1464
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: all of that made to elevate to a very very.

1465
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 3: So I wrote College Chucky Wood and Dion. The best

1466
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: in the pros is probably Matt Ryan. Was he a two? Yeah?

1467
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: For some reason I handed him him as a three.

1468
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: Now he's a two.

1469
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 2: Where's that list I had with the Hall of Famers?

1470
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 3: There might not be a Hall of Famer with the

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: number two, believe it or not. All right, let's see

1472
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: that was that was interesting to see?

1473
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

1474
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: All right?

1475
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: Number one, there's quite a few ones. Curly Lambeau, Im

1476
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: Warren Moon is the best of the ones, though number two.

1477
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: Here is your entire list of number two not in

1478
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Here's your entire list of two's.

1479
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: Charlie Tripp John, Patty John, Patty Driscoll, Walt Kissling, and

1480
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: William Roy liman year, anybody who. I don't know who

1481
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: any of those people are last year, any of them played.

1482
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't have the numbers. Ye, I don't have that

1483
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: associated but that's it.

1484
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 3: I think Maddie I as the best of the modern era.

1485
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1486
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: I think you might be right. A lot of cool

1487
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: college players were it, but not a whole lot. It's

1488
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: what I wrote college Chuck you Wood, and I do

1489
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: wonder if it will if that will change with college

1490
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: players being able to single digits being available for position players,

1491
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: you know, for example, like I don't know what number

1492
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: of Mecca Buka took for Tampa.

1493
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if he took two.

1494
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: If it's available, Like do you start to see more

1495
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: and more of those, Like when Caleb Downs gets to

1496
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: the league, is he gonna wear two?

1497
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 3: Those type of things.

1498
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: I think will be interesting to see how that how

1499
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: that works out, if some of those skill position guys

1500
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: start to be able to wear it.

1501
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 5: We dropped down the list two number eight. In Brown's

1502
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 5: new quarterback Kenny Picket.

1503
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 3: I like eight for starters.

1504
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: I like the symmetry of eight Yeah, I like writing

1505
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: the number eight.

1506
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: I think eight's a really cool uber You're eight in

1507
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 3: Brown's history, Bill Kundiff, Trent Dilford, Johnny Evans, Derek Frost,

1508
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 3: Brad Goebel, Kevin Hogan, Jeff Ager, Josh Johnson, Andy Lee,

1509
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 3: Richmond McGee, Holy Cow, Elijah Moore, and the Kicker Chris Nagger.

1510
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Elijah, Elijah.

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Elijah's a nice I would have liked to see him

1512
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: stick around me too. Yeah, is pretty easy.

1513
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: Troy Aikman, what we laughing?

1514
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: Guys?

1515
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: A Hall of Famer, multiple multiple super Bowl.

1516
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: Champions on this show, you have on this show, you

1517
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: and I have called him perhaps the most overrated quarterback

1518
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: in NFL history on this show.

1519
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: I can't think of anybody else who's ever even worn

1520
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 3: the number eight that's been of any consequence. I'll go

1521
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 3: to the I'll go to bat for your boy. Steve Young.

1522
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 3: I think he was pretty he was pretty great. He

1523
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: was pretty good.

1524
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was fun to watch, really fun to watch,

1525
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: And I think eight looks cool.

1526
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,480
Speaker 3: Kobe's the best. Eight mean, but I think it's good spirited.

1527
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember do you remember.

1528
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 2: The Antoine Walk employee number eight? I always thought that

1529
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: was a cool That was cool eight. I like the

1530
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: look of eight. I like the loveless good Yeah.

1531
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 5: Uh up next to number eleven Special teams Ace and Corner,

1532
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 5: Tony Brown the second.

1533
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 3: All right, now I'm gonna another good number. Now I'm

1534
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: gonna try to give like more just of notes, Travis,

1535
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 3: Benjamin Antonio, Callaway, Ty detmer Ken, Dorsey, Mohammed Massaquah, Donovan,

1536
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: People's Jones. That's it, Terrelle pryor Mark Rippin for two.

1537
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four, war Mark Rippin played so what

1538
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: says like?

1539
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: Washington Redskins Super Bowl MVP. Mark Rippan played here in

1540
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 2: the Yeah ninety three and ninety.

1541
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 3: Yes started three games when two and one is a starter,

1542
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: completing forty six percent of his passes for ninety four yards,

1543
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: four touchdowns, three picks. Mark Rippin played here. Uh and

1544
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: then Gibbey's favorite undrafted free agent signing ever, Bryce Treggs.

1545
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 5: B Treggs Boy, there's a story. Come ask me that

1546
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 5: in a bar of Browns fans.

1547
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

1548
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 5: We'll tell you all about Bryce Trigg's.

1549
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: Donovan People's Jones is my favorite. I agree, EPJ. By

1550
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 3: the way, congratulations dpj T tweeted out that he's two

1551
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: years sober, two years out there, so good for him.

1552
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: It's great, that's great. And then my favorite number eleven

1553
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 3: ever appearing for the second time on this list, Jeff George.

1554
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: For the Colts, for the Colts, where eleven.

1555
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 3: For these he did honorable mention for me, for Larry

1556
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald and who who who who? Leo Jones.

1557
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: They are the examples of receivers being able to wear

1558
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: teens and so those numbers will go into the Hall

1559
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: of Fame when those two guys go in, and quite honestly,

1560
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: they could use it. It's not a great list in

1561
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: the hall. Joe Guyon, William roy Lyman, Norm van Brocklin, Norm,

1562
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: that's it ain't great, not the number eleven.

1563
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

1564
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: I like it.

1565
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 5: I like number eleven.

1566
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, that's it. Yeah, those are the

1567
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 3: only ones that are fun.

1568
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: I'd say, yeah, I think that it's it kind of

1569
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: gets lost in the tradition, like in the old school

1570
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: quarterback miss It definitely gets lost amongst the twelve, thirteen,

1571
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: fourteen crowd, Like there's a lot in those numbers, but

1572
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: not there for eleven. I don't know if I love

1573
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: it as a corner. I gotta see what that looks

1574
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,520
Speaker 2: like at corner.

1575
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: Like it feels. Who's wearing that at corner?

1576
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: Our guy, Tony Brown.

1577
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: Hey, Special Teams. I guess that's true. Yeah, yeah, well

1578
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 3: you're a corner corner. You're right. I was already onto fifteen.

1579
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 5: I believe this is gonna be his number.

1580
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: It's on the ross that way.

1581
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 5: Yeah. Okay, so it wasn't on the one, but it okay,

1582
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: on the app, it's on it. Joe Flacco. All right,

1583
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 5: here's the number fifteen, but number one in your heart.

1584
01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 3: Devon Bess, Joe Flacco, Steve Cox, Greg Little Oh, Marlon Moore,

1585
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: Jim Nanowski, Mike Phipps, the quarterback, Mike Phipps, Charlie Whitehurst,

1586
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: and Dave's astidill clipboard.

1587
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's Dave's astill good man.

1588
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good man. If Flaco's not eligible, Zassi is

1589
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 3: my favorite.

1590
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 2: That he'd be mine too, But yeah, I think Flacco

1591
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: is my guy on that ei of that.

1592
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: List best fifteen of all time. This is another one

1593
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: that's gonna be light in there.

1594
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: I think very light. Bart Starr, Right, Yeah, that's it.

1595
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: It's NFL Hall of Famers. It's Bart Starr, Steve Ben

1596
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: van Buren. Those are your NFL Hall of Famers in fifteen.

1597
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: When I think of fifteen, I think at t Bow

1598
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: like a lot of this is my college influence. I think,

1599
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 2: I think of him, and I think of Tommy Fraser,

1600
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: who was unbelievable at Nebraska. He wore fifteen as well.

1601
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott fifteen at Ohio State.

1602
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 5: Yes, up next to number sixteen, the new Brown's wide receiver,

1603
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 5: Deonte Johnson.

1604
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 3: All right, so this one in the way back, you

1605
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 3: got Bill Nelson, okay, it was a Pro Bowl quarterback.

1606
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: You got Milt Plumb, it was a two time Pro

1607
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: Bowl quarterback. And then you got Josh Cribs. That's really

1608
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 3: pretty much. That's pretty much. See Andrew Hawkins as well.

1609
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: I'd probably say Josh Cribbs is because of just my age. Yeah,

1610
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: Cribs would get would get the nod.

1611
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: And then the back sixteen in the Hall of Fame,

1612
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: it's pretty loaded. You got George Blanda, Len Dawson, Frank Gifford.

1613
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: Ed Healy, who else we got here?

1614
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty it's it's a good list. Kenny Stabler War

1615
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: sixteen at one point Bronco no Gersky War sixteen so good.

1616
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: He reminds me of Buddy Garrity, like if I'm like

1617
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: so like, I send him out to go to the bathroom.

1618
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: When then when he comes back in, he goes right

1619
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: in and he's like, Dad, where's a treat. Where's a treat?

1620
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: Where's a treat? He just was I just did you

1621
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: have one job? Say, Joe Montana, just do one job.

1622
01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 3: That's all.

1623
01:19:59,640 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 5: You have.

1624
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: One jump and you're gonna decide with Steve Young. Steve

1625
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: you side you are.

1626
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: I'd like to watch the Steve Young play Joe Montana

1627
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: sixteen though, that's you can.

1628
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: Have Joe Montanas. I think it's weird that well, you

1629
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: know who I'm taking.

1630
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: But on the record many times the show, every time,

1631
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: I also think you're back. It's weird that it's weird

1632
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: he did. I guess he didn't want to wear sixteen

1633
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, so he wore nineteen because he didn't.

1634
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: He said, that's Dawson's number. It stays. But yeah, that's it,

1635
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: that's it, number seventeen. Some nice lore for the Browns.

1636
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: You've got Dalen Baldwin another one of Ghibet's big signings,

1637
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: Jason Campbell, a, Jake Daylight coming he wanted Dell Ome Oh, holy,

1638
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: Braylon Edwards, Terrell Pror, prior were eleven and seventeen, Yes,

1639
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 3: seventeen in twenty fifteen. Uh, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, Chris Gardaki A,

1640
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: Todd phil Cox, that's a great name. And then of

1641
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 3: course the great Brian Sipe.

1642
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 5: I believe Todd phil Cox was the guy that replaced

1643
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 5: one Bernard Cosar.

1644
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh my, it's the quarterbaing to do Sipe is the

1645
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 3: clear answer at seventeen.

1646
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 5: There's a lot of loaded numbers there. Yeah, the guys

1647
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 5: that did some things. Yeah, it was a good number.

1648
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 5: Lots of good ones there.

1649
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: It's funny when I think seventeen, I think of Doug

1650
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 2: Williams when I think of the NFL context of seventeen,

1651
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: because obviously I wasn't around for Sipe, so like that's

1652
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: what I think Will Rivers. Yeah, for me, I just

1653
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: went right in my head. I just went right to

1654
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Doug Williams with the Redskins.

1655
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: So because of man And there was one other one

1656
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 3: that I thought because he was like a cheat code

1657
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: in the game whenever you got him because he's so

1658
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: big and I actually got to meet him at a

1659
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: joint practice in Philadelphia a few years ago.

1660
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: Harold Carmichael, Oh yeah, and he's in the hoff the

1661
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame list is Morris bad Grow Harold carmikecuse me?

1662
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 3: Yep? What was his name?

1663
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: Morris bad Grow? Like Wayne Grow.

1664
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 3: From Heat Love It more bad Grow? Yeah, So let's

1665
01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: think about how you come up with that name?

1666
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 5: Are you like?

1667
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: What did you do? Why are you here? I had

1668
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: crops that all died on me and in America and

1669
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 3: they're like, we're calling you bad bad Grow. It is

1670
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: ells island. It feels like an island decision. I think

1671
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 3: you're right on that.

1672
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 5: You're probably right.

1673
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: That's all I got.

1674
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Glenn Edwards as well. Davante works seventeen, doesn't he?

1675
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: Dante Adams, Yes, Dante Adams is a very good one. Yeah.

1676
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 5: Next up, we jumped down to number twenty five in corner, Nick.

1677
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: This is a good number. Twenty five is a good

1678
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: number all right. In Cleveland Brown's so my Cleveland Browns.

1679
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to just highlight there a lot of

1680
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: them here, not a lot honestly, with a ton of

1681
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 3: success recently, we've had Demitrik Felton, Khalif Halassie, Don Trell

1682
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: Hilliard remember him Obaniyah. There's really not a grin at there,

1683
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: not a lot there in terms of even just Frank

1684
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 3: Pitt's probably had the best run of anybody. One time

1685
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champ, two time AFL champ, the wide receiver,

1686
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 3: split end, but I don't know him. I'll go I

1687
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 3: enjoyed Dimitric Felton, while I'll say Dimitric Felton.

1688
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah in twenty five in NFL history is a little

1689
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: dicey too, Butlitnikoff is the most famous. Tommy McDonald also

1690
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: wore twenty five Hall of Fame receiver. Those are probably

1691
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,879
Speaker 2: those are the two most notable.

1692
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: I think of two running backs immediately, Reggie No.

1693
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: Not Reggie Bush, No, you worked with the Saints.

1694
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I think of Jamal Charles, Jamal Charles yeah, and Shady McCoy. Yeah.

1695
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Shady McCoy yeah, but then he switched to five once

1696
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: he could. But yeah, he was twenty two the Eagles.

1697
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, those are both both both good ones.

1698
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 5: Uh we jumped to thirty eight and a new kicker, Andre.

1699
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 3: Smit.

1700
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 5: There you go.

1701
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: These are tough thirty eight is there's not.

1702
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: A lot of years, all right, We've got an TJ. Carey,

1703
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: Tony Brown, last year, a J. Green, are AJ Green? Yep,

1704
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 3: that's pretty much yet. And Antonio Langham from ninety four

1705
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 3: to ninety nine. He was good. Yeah, he was good.

1706
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 3: Did you know that his first name was Kylli? Neither

1707
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: did not.

1708
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: He had a great National Championship game against Miami, though

1709
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: I do remember that.

1710
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 3: One in two thousand and six. It was worn by

1711
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 3: Theory in Fontano, which is good to know. Yeah, yeah,

1712
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Tony Brown. I really like him as

1713
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 3: just a person.

1714
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: There are only two Hall of Famers to wear thirty eight,

1715
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: and only one of them who wore it as his

1716
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: primary number, and that is arn Herber.

1717
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 3: YEP. That's also considered. Was George Rogers? Was that the

1718
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: running back?

1719
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: He was a running back out of South Carolina?

1720
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know that he. I thought he was

1721
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: something else. He's third. Let's say, let's see his accolades. Yeah,

1722
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: George Rogers. Did he play for Redskins? Yes, eighty one

1723
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 3: to eighty seven. He won the Highway. He was thirty

1724
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 3: eight at South Carolina and he was thirty eight in college,

1725
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 3: I mean in the pros thirty eight with the Redskins

1726
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: and then thirty eight with the Saints as well, who

1727
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 3: originally drafted him. Two time Pro Bowler, one time first

1728
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 3: team All Pro, he might be a guys rookie season,

1729
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 3: comes into the league, goes for sixteen seventy four and

1730
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 3: thirteen tuddies, his first team All Pro, sixth and the

1731
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 3: eight MVP voting, and wins the Rookie of the Year

1732
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 3: in his very first year in league. Then magically, in

1733
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: the next year must have been the strike shortened, he

1734
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: had five hundred and thirty five yards and five games

1735
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: and was a Pro Bowler in that season as well.

1736
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: And then in nineteen eighty six, at the age of

1737
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: twenty eight, he had his last great year with Washington

1738
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 3: twelve hundred and three yards and elige high eighteen touchdowns.

1739
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go George Rove. Yeah, he was a stud.

1740
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know the Heisman winner at South Carolina. Yeah,

1741
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: never heard the other guy.

1742
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 5: We jumped to number fifty three defensive end, Julian Okwara.

1743
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 3: Don't give the fifty threes. I know we got Nick Harris.

1744
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 3: I like make Harris was a fine young man in

1745
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: life for him. All right, we've got that's an easy

1746
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 3: one for me. Unless there's somebody Craig Robertson and Joe

1747
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 3: Schobert show the show. We'd have to have the judge always.

1748
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Joe the show, just because he would show up at

1749
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: Edie would show up at everything remote.

1750
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he would. Very nice of him, very kind

1751
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 3: of him. All right, best fifty three.

1752
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: So Hall of Fame, you got Harry Carson is the

1753
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: most famous who. Oddly enough I am was leaving the

1754
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame game, the game when hawf

1755
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 2: went in US against the Jets and we stopped to

1756
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: get gas at Green Township and I pulled up and

1757
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: the guy getting gas next to me was Harry Carson.

1758
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 3: How about it?

1759
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1760
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, was it? I told the boys, Hey, that's fifty

1761
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 3: six and Carl Banks was fifty eight. Yeah, I think

1762
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 3: you have that right. Yeah, all right.

1763
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 5: On the number seventy one, we jumped down the list

1764
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 5: new offensive tackle Cornelius lucas Man.

1765
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: I can't remember anybody who's worn that one for us.

1766
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 3: You got to go back to Walter Johnson from sixty

1767
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 3: five to seventy six. Walter Johnson a three time Pro

1768
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: Bowl defensive tackle of the Browns, Big Attaba Rubin, Big

1769
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Rubes Warre as well. So those are really the those

1770
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 3: are really the only ones.

1771
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Some these are some ones

1772
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: that you hear Hoff talking about from time to time.

1773
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: Biselli wore it for seventy one and Walter Jones. Wal

1774
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Walter Jones was Hoff's hero, right, wasn't

1775
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: he the one.

1776
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: That he Jones presented in present jacket? Yeah, that's right.

1777
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 3: So Walter Jones, we're going for us with the seventy one?

1778
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: Are we going with a big Rube? Sure?

1779
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, Rubin was a good dude to number seventy four.

1780
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 5: Now in guard New Guard, Tevin Jenkins from the Chicago Bears.

1781
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Jed Will's also in somebody one. Then there you go.

1782
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: There is a Mike McCormick from the fifties, Mike Saint Clair,

1783
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: a Dick Madzaluski, a Paul McQuistan, Chris Hubbard. For a

1784
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: few years with us, it was a nice I like

1785
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 3: hub Cam Irving won it an Orlando Bobo great name

1786
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 3: in nineteen eight nine. Tony Tony adam Lee is that

1787
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: Mike Adamley's dad I don't know, maybe or a Dominley.

1788
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 3: It's Adam. I think it is Adam.

1789
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: It's Adimly, yeah, because then he ended up doing the

1790
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: American Gladiators and.

1791
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Also had a short lift stint with the w W E.

1792
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 3: And in his first paper You're referred to Jeff Hardy

1793
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 3: as Jess Hervey and he was not seen from that

1794
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: was the end of that.

1795
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: Again, his longtime Chicago sports anchor YEA.

1796
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: With Chris Hubbard. I like hub all right, best seventy

1797
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 3: four ever, all.

1798
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: Right in the hall, Jimbo Covert, Fred Dean, Henry Jordan,

1799
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Bob Lily, Bruce Matthews. It's yeah, Merlin Olsen Ron Mix,

1800
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Bruce Matthews is Bruce.

1801
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Mathley the one. Yeah, Merlin Olson would be there too.

1802
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 3: He's usually considered.

1803
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a part of our youth as a

1804
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 2: broad name. I'm the present part of our youth, wasn't he?

1805
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 5: With Dick Enberg, Yeah, Gainberg, Moneroles absolutely all right, we

1806
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 5: have like sixty seconds.

1807
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: We're early good here. We got two numbers ago all right, number.

1808
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 5: Ninety Joe Tryan Shoyanka, number ninety six, Mileage.

1809
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Collins, Rob Burnett, Emmanuel Ogba, Oh uncle, Bronco, Bill Billy Win.

1810
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 3: Billy Winn is the answer. No number nineties in the

1811
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, not a single one according to this

1812
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 3: single number ninety player? Ever, where ninety Julius Peppers with

1813
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 3: Carolina was ninety? Isn't he in the Hall of Fame?

1814
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: Where's he going in this year?

1815
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 7: He went in last year?

1816
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: But didn't he switch to fifty six?

1817
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 3: He was ninety for a good period of his career. Yeah,

1818
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I don't know right now. There are no nineties in

1819
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: Neil Smith wore it. He was a good players, good player.

1820
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 3: So he was ninety with the Panthers from two thousand

1821
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: and two to twenty eighteen, the Bears twenty ten.

1822
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: So he's not in yet. He's just not in yet.

1823
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: He is in that just then?

1824
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: Why is it not not updated?

1825
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 3: He just got in in twenty four.

1826
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Millie Collins really quick. Cortez Kennedy's the best.

1827
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 3: What's the what's the last best ninety six for us? Yep?

1828
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: All right. I can think of a few off the

1829
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 3: top of my head that have been here. A Daniel Lquallely,

1830
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 3: Xavier Cooper, Jordan Elliott, Cannard Lang.

1831
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 5: Canard Lang was a beast.

1832
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just don't have a lot of Unfortunately, it's sad.

1833
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 3: It's all our thing. A reggie camp. Yeah, we'll go

1834
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: to the reggie camp.

1835
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Reggie camp. Yeah, there you go, all right, and there

1836
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: you do go, so much more to come. You're listen

1837
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,280
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1842
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: How about this, The Rams are going to Hawaii for

1843
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 2: mini camp. That seems that's a wild expense.

1844
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, we went to the Greenbrier.

1845
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Those two camps, with all due respect, are not the same.

1846
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 3: Not the same, not the same resort life. Yep, I know,

1847
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 3: but it's yep all right.

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