WEBVTT - Harlan Hill in The Hut 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.920 This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:08.080 mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.280 Make no mistake, you're a great American. Again the Buck 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:24.040 Sexton Show begins. No, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.680 This is Harlan Hill back in filling in for Buck 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.760 while he's on a signment down at the border. And 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:30.800 as always I want to thank him for trusting me 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.800 with him his microphone. Tonight and on this Tuesday, the 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.720 fifteenth of January twenty nineteen. God do we have a 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.080 lot of ground to cover. There's lots of breaking news 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.920 from the confirmation hearing on the Hill today for the 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.760 incoming Attorney General William Barr, to this critical Brexit vote 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.160 and much more. I mean, this week and this year 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.640 really is off to a blistering start. But to start 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.680 the show, I wanted to address the Democrats who elected 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.960 to go to Puerto Rico to play on the beach 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:02.640 and drink with lobbyists instead of getting to work for you, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.520 instead of working to get the government back up and running. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.119 I'm gonna talk to them directly. Shame on you, guys, 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.000 Shame on you guys. President Trump, the President of the 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.319 United States, has been sitting in the Oval office through 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.959 the holidays. He didn't go spend time with his family. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.920 He didn't leave Washington like you guys did through the 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.840 new year too, well, Yo, were gallivan all over the country. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.240 Are you kidding me? You guys are still doing it. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.440 You're going to Puerto Rico on the beach. I'm thinking 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.640 of syndatam Anendez, that criminal on the beach hanging out 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.240 with that blond boy. I'm sure you guys saw the pictures. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.800 I mean, this guy's out of control. I mean, if 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.959 you've read anything about him, you know at least she 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.560 was of age. While they're playing politics, while these Democrats 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.360 are playing politics politics, they just want to blame the 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.240 president for this shutdown entirely, while they won't make the 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:02.600 smallest compromise, These congressional Democrats won't the smallest compromise to 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.520 get this thing back up and running again, to get 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.519 eight hundred thousand Americans, eight hundred thousand government workers their paychecks, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:16.000 including TSA workers, including air traffic controllers, including Secret Service agents. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.200 They're playing politics with these people's lives, all while they 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.120 blame the President who's sitting there waiting, and even today 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.560 Congressional Democrats refuse. They're boycotting meeting at the White House. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.280 They don't want to talk about it anymore. All he's 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.480 wanting is a measly five billion dollars. And in the 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.519 context of all the money that Democrats just flushed down 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.760 the drain all the time and have for decades, they 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.600 can't cough this up for a real solution to a 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.919 crisis at the border. Are you kidding me? I'm sure 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.760 we'll get a lot of footage and Buck will have 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.760 a lot of firsthand experience about what it's like down there, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.000 because he's down right now at the border in San Diego, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.440 between San Diego and Tijuana. I mean, I can only 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.280 imagine what he's seeing right now. But this problem is 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.120 out of control. These Democrats returned from their holiday in 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.560 Puerto Rico over the weekend. They said they were working, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:08.880 but we had all these pictures of them at the 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.840 beach and the bar and everything else. Not to make 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.280 some serious concession and get government back up and running, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:15.800 Not to go to the White House and sit down 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.280 with the President and say, hey, how can we strike 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.400 a deal. No, they returned to the Hill to viciously 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.560 tear into a proven Attorney General NAP nominated by President 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.840 Donald Trump to lead the Justice Department, William Barr. And 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.240 that's despite the fact that mister Barr on the Hill 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.680 today pledge to allow the Muller probe to move forward 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.680 and to be reported, the findings of the Muller probe 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.480 to be reported without any interference by him or the 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.360 White House. I mean, this guy couldn't gone anyfore. He's 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.120 bending over backwards to make them happy, to reassure them. Listen, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.840 I'm just going to administer and then stand by the 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.240 rule of law. I'm not looking to tip the scales 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.119 either way. That's not enough for them. You know, him 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.520 over the last year writing op ed saying that he 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.640 doesn't think the president's in the wrong, there's no evidence 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.920 of coclusion. All these things that are absolutely true, Democrats 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.440 try to use against him today and they want him 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.800 to recuse himself. I mean, it's just it's just so disingenuous. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.560 They know they know better, they know better, but this 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.680 isn't governing to them. This is a circus. This is 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.800 a political ploy. As they're all announcing their intentions to 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.240 run for twenty twenty, that's all this is. Lots of grandstanding. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.040 So I wanted to play a clip from it today 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.560 so you could hear mister Barrn his own words, and 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.880 I think you'll be impressed. If confirmed, I will not 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:42.480 permit partisan politics, personal interests, or any other improper consideration 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:47.880 to interfere with this or any other investigation. I will 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.960 follow the Special Council Regulations scrupulously and in good faith, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.240 and on my watch, Bob will be allowed to finish 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.080 his work. My goal will be to provide as much 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.719 transparents as I can, consistent with the law. When his 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.159 report comes to you, will you share it with us 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:09.479 as much as possible, consistent with the regulations and the law. Yes, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.040 I am going to make as much information available as 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.400 I can, consistent with the rules and regulations that are 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.400 part of the Special Council Regulations. I'm in favor of 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.359 as much transparency as there can be, consistent with the 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.120 rules and the law. See a case where the president 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:34.000 could claim executive privilege. In theory, if if there was 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.960 executive privilege material that to which an executive privilege claim 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:43.520 could be made, it might know someone might raise a 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.279 claim of executive That would be pretty difficult of following 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.599 the US versus Nixon, and mister Giuliani said the president 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.440 should be able to correct the moral report before any 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.640 public release. So, in other words, you could take this 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:02.600 investigative report, put his own spin on corrected before its release. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.599 You commit that would not happen. If you're attorney in general, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.359 that will not happen. Joining me now to discuss is 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.000 Victoria Tunsing, a former Justice Department official and a former 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.760 Chief Council to the Senate Intelligence Committee, so she's got 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.599 experience both at the Justice Department and on the hill. Victoria, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.520 thank you for joining. Oh what's fun? I listened to 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.680 the earrings today. By by the way, I do want 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.640 to take issue with you. This is not a circus 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.480 raided democrats. This is about power and that's what it is. Yeah, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:39.000 they miss their power. I think you're right. I think 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.680 you're right. But in the process they've turned this into 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.599 a circus. Maybe we'll split the hair there now we're 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:50.800 in agreement. Okay, there so, but this gives me some 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.640 serious pause because I'll be honest as a Trump oilist, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.359 which is what I am. You know, I didn't like 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.120 some of the things that mister Barr said today, but 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.480 he bent over backwards a comedy Democrats and say, look, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.520 I'm going to stay above this. I'm not going to interfere. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.240 I'm not going to allow this report that comes out 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.920 of the Muller probe to be edited, you know, so 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.600 you know whatever can be didn't Rudy really didn't mean 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.440 editing it. He thought he wanted to look and see 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.280 if there he could there were things that would be 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.320 in dispute that he could bring back. This has done 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.640 all the time, was done under the Independent Council law 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.160 when there was a required report and everybody who was 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.400 a target or a defendant in the case was allowed 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.000 to review the report and come back with saying, hey, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.440 here's a mistake here. Well, and so to clarify that 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.160 I got you got one hundred percent. And so I mean, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.160 what was your read on mister Barterday, I mean, how 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.600 did you think his performance was? He was excellent? I mean, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.520 and Joe and I supported him, my husband Joe to 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.840 Jenneva and law partner and I supported him from the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.680 get go. We think that he was just he's the 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.520 perfect person. Look, he gave where he had to give. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.080 There was no way he come there and say no, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.120 I'm going to stop the Muller investigation this minute. In fact, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.760 for all of us who support Trump, that would not 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:12.480 be a good thing. Mueller's would would be in glory 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.120 if that happened, because he has got nothing, so then 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.520 he can say like he's wont to do Oh my, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.040 they interfered with me. I really had all this stuff. Yeah, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.600 make him take it to the end. And Shobe has nothing. Well, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.400 and that's that's the frustrating bid here. I mean, so 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.480 obviously the Special Council has not been around for um, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.320 you know, three years, but this talk of Russian collusion 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.640 and these these accusations predate the election of President Trump. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.400 I mean they started to plant the seeds of doubt 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.839 to undermine the credibility of the incoming administration even before 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.520 election day. I mean I can remember being on CNN. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.320 Joe and I have been calling it a brazen plot 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.559 ever since they went after George popa dope as I 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.920 call him, because so stupid to lie about something that 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.240 was not criminal. Yeah, and I want to take issue. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.160 I mean it just drives me crazy. Pat Lahy who 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.319 did the clip, and he says, oh, somebody would have 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.920 a hard time in the report, claiming executive privileged j 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.560 after US versus Nixon. He doesn't even understand this basic 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.319 Supreme Court decision. The Supreme Court in that decision said, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:24.480 in a criminal case where there's an ongoing trial, if 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.920 the White House has information that is material, it has 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.719 to be turned over. It didn't say, well, when the 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.560 media or crying out to know what's in a report, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.800 there's no executive privilege. Right now, I'm embarrassed, right, Pat Lahy, Well, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:44.839 Patton know is better, doesn't He probably not? Kind of 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.400 learning his words? So, I mean, so where does this go? 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.080 I mean when is Muller going to wrap this thing up? 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.160 I mean, are we talking about another couple of years 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.000 of this? Is this gonna get dragged within a month? 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:02.040 I'm told, really those are my source? Wow, you know it. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.280 He's got too at a certain point, I mean what 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.920 Rod Rosenstein, may he be forever damned all did by 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:15.000 authorizing a special counsel on for counterintelligence basis not a criminal, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.360 it's just what the regulations require. Has has harmed the 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:25.120 presidencies ever since um January of twenty seventeen, and it's 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.880 got to stop. It's got to stop. Is this the 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.800 new normal? Is this the I mean, so as we 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.559 move eventually, you know, President Trump will not be a 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.839 president anymore, I mean twenty twenty four. Um, So I mean, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.760 but is this the new normal and how we handle 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.280 um incoming presidents? I mean, will there be efforts to 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.760 de legitimize my god, No, this is not this. Don't 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.560 this will all go away if the Democrat is elected. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.319 I mean, when you were you were talking about the Democrats, 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.439 you know, gallivanting and Polosi off to Hawaii, the others 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.800 off to Porto Rico. I'm sure CBS led with that 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.160 right and not at all. I mean the account on 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:08.480 the mainstream media to be complicit. That's that's what it's 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:13.560 all about. Complacent and complicit. So I mean, but you know, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.080 I'm not so sure that I believe that. I mean, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.080 I think that there's going to there will be elements 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.040 of the Republican side of the aisle that it will 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.760 seek retribution for what Democrats have done here. And I'm 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.120 not saying that that's a good thing at all. I 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.520 mean the way that that they have for their own 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.400 political expedients delegit attempted to delegitimize a president of the 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.360 United States and undermine the very institutions of our democracy 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.640 is unacceptable. But I fear, but I fear that there 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.400 will be some people that seek retribution and it will 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.439 fall for the same trap that the Democrats have. Well, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.120 do you really think Republicans are capable of that? That's 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.400 why they're in the minority. They didn't act like they 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.240 were in the majority when they were, and now they're 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.720 not even acting like the fighters the Democrats are. Well. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.600 Stephen King and I have no great a love for 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.920 Stephen King. I always thought he was rather off dase, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.920 but they allowed him to be whatever the vote was today, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:07.480 whatever the Democrats took over. And yet the woman whose 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.040 name I don't have in my brain right now from Michigan, 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:15.000 who yeah, the Muslims bio thing about the president and 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:20.079 is clearly anti Semitic. Nothing nothing, well, I mean, what's 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.880 wrong with them? Right? I mean? And she had a 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.480 devout um, you know, anti Zionist at one of her parties, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.960 anti Semitic. Yeah, And and they don't and they don't 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.959 want to go after her. There should have been that 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.080 should have been joined. Yeah, is it right? All right? 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.040 Stephen King didn't, No, no, But here's somebody else who did. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.920 And it's one of yours. Let's take the vote. And 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.800 to your point, I mean, you know, if you had 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.079 a fervent uh anti semitic at a Trump party, I mean, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.680 it would be Walter wall on CNN for weeks, right, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.120 I mean, and there's not There has not been a 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.600 single tweet we confirmed this earlier. Not a single tweet 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.000 from CNN, not a single report on the fact that 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:07.400 that anti semitic gentleman attended her party. Not a single one. No, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:12.480 And this is why if we just elect a Democrat president, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.280 will all go away? Yeah, yeah, I fear that you're 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.400 right anyway. So Victoria, I'm gonna bring you right back 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.640 after this break, Everyone stick around. We've got a lot 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.800 more to discuss, lots of breaking news. The phone lines 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.520 are open, so give us a call at eight four 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.200 four nine hundred two eight two five. 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You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.760 I'm Harland Hill filling in for Buck. The phone lines 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.040 are open, so give us a call at eight four 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.320 four nine hundred two eight two five. That's eight four 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.680 four nine hundred buck. President Trump has asked Congress for 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.640 five point seven billion dollars to build a wall along 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.720 our southern border, and he said that if necessary, he 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.000 may declare a national emergency to act unilaterally, and that 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.120 he has the authority to do so. He's walked it 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.280 back a little bit, saying that it shouldn't be necessary, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.200 that Congress should just act and help him build this 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.840 wall together. But as is the case any time a 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.920 president attempts to circumvent Congress and act unilaterally, there's a 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.640 legal question about whether he should do so and whether 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.880 he can do so. I personally think that the President 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.560 Trump has a very strong argument to make here and 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.280 that he does have the authority to act unilaterally. But 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.120 I want to talk to an expert on this to 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.120 help me break down some of the specifics of it. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.760 So I'm welcoming back Victoria Tuntsing, a former Justice Department 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.640 official and former chief counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.720 So Victoria, first of all, can the president do this? 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.520 I mean, if the shutdown goes on much further and 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.400 the President just you know, gets set up and says, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.360 you know what, I'm going to use my full rights 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.480 as the president the United States'm gona exercise my full rights. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.880 Does he have the legal authority to go and build 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.840 this wall under a national emergency? I think he would 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.800 ultimately prevail. The problem is, and the reason why he's 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.680 trying to work out something is because it would take 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.240 so long. And if he can work out in agreement, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.600 it's not going to go for months even over a 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.800 year to get to the Supreme Court, because we have 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:06.040 this new phenomena occurring Harlan, and that is a judge 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.360 out sitting out in Hawaii who doesn't no squat about 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.360 national security can issue an injunction for the whole country. 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.480 I think it is against the judiciary. I think that 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.320 the Supreme Court is going to talk about it at 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.960 some point, but they have not addressed that issue yet. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.680 See the bottom line is that I think that the 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.800 president at some point has to say, until the Supreme 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.880 Court tells me to do X, I'm going to do. Why? Right? 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.120 And how how long could that injunction last? Well, until 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.040 the Supreme Court hears it? Got it? When the Supreme 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.000 Court hears it, that's the law. But for one judge, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.280 you know, the four hundred and some other judges are 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.360 sitting around the country to say, Okay, here's my ruling, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:56.360 and that goes for the whole country. It's bizarre. And 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.280 the reason that the left coast, as we call it, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.800 California and all of that, the Ninth Circuit is liberal, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.840 it's because the practice has been in the Senate. I 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.040 don't only get it too far down the weeds, but 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.199 basically that the Democratic senators have to approve of the 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:19.680 judicial nominee, even when it's a Republican president. The Senate works, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.200 and so they've gotten all liberal judges out there right. Well, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.720 and how does how does the Supreme Court telegraph that 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.439 they will take up this case? I mean, does the 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.120 Chief Justice supposibly say they'll take it on? No? No, no, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.080 no, no no, no, okay, So how do they telegraph that? 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.440 That has to wind its way? Usually usually it has 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.320 to go through the circuits, and then there has to 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.560 be a conflict in the circuits or it becomes something 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.040 that just a ruling in the Ninth Circuit against the 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.280 administration is enough to make the administration and apply to 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:54.000 the Supreme Court for search story got it, search as 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:58.120 we call it. But the Supreme Court doesn't signal nothing right. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.199 I wouldn't think so. I would't think so. I mean, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:01.960 so the president is really in a hard place because 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.720 if he does go that route, I mean, it pretty 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.840 much destins him to the fact that nothing will happen 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.280 with this wall for you know, the duration of his 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.600 first term. I mean, this will probably take some time 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.639 to find its way, um, you know, to through to 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.919 the court. M so, and even beyond that, I mean 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.320 they're going to be all sorts of I mean challenges 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.520 on environmental grounds and others to any wall that he 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.200 seeks to build. And so I mean in a domain 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.320 as well, Yeah, property along there might say I don't 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.840 want you to build this. Yeah. So it's difficult in 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.000 and of itself. So I guess my takeaway is that 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.760 if you're being pragmatic and forecasting here, it's unlikely. And 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.680 the quick response he because gonna have a minute left. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.840 H Do you think that the wall's gonna get built 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:49.040 in the next couple of years. Boy, he's a pretty 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.440 determined guy. I think he's going to find a way 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.760 one way or the other. But the Republicans in Congress 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.640 have got to get smarter. They've just got to get 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:01.199 a little more cohonist Yeah, it's frustrating. I mean, they 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.400 should we should have started this in the first term. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.119 It will be the legacy of Paul Ryan that he 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.280 didn't take this one, you know, on day one of 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.439 the Trump administration. But it's the it's what we have 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.520 to live with. Anyway. We'll be right back after this 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.760 quick break with more. The phone lines are open, so 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.879 give us a call at eight four four nine hundred 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.760 two eight two five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.000 Stay tuned to the Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back. You're 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.240 listening to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Harlan Hill fill 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.000 in for Buck. The phone lines are open. Give us 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.880 a call at eight four four nine hundred two eight 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.679 two five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. I 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.240 was struck over the weekend by reports in the New 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.320 York Times of the FBI opening a counterintelligence probe and 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.560 to President Trump, seemingly in retaliation for the firing of 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:49.159 FBI Director James Comey. This is concerning because you should 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.199 never have a law enforcement agency targeting someone you know 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.120 without any cause and without any material reason for the investigation. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.000 And I think that that was as evidenced by the 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.959 fact that so as part of this New York Times report, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.679 there was a revelation that Muller took over this probe 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.360 when the Special Council was instated and decided not to 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.280 chase this any further. So it's clear that there wasn't 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.960 much substance this probe to begin with. And so that's 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.440 why I wanted to bring in an expert to break 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.600 this all down for me, and it's Ryan Morrow, the 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.080 director of intelligence at the Clarion Project. Ryan, thanks for 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.000 joining me, Thanks so much for having me so right. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.560 I mean, this story, this story is bizarre. I mean, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.960 it doesn't make sense to me. And what was your take, 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.359 I mean, what was your gut reaction to this when 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:38.080 you first read it? At first? I figure that the 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:43.080 headline must have been manipulative. That usually stories like this 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.480 there will be something buried in the story that helps 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.840 it make sense, and it's not quite as outrageous as 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:54.840 its found. But I am left more confused, puzzled, just 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:58.560 overall discouraged based on what I've read from the various 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.080 articles about this. Now, I must say I've had a 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.320 lot of interaction with the FBI over the years since 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.239 I was a teenager involved in stuff. I know a 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:13.400 lot about counterintelligence and foreign influence operations and kindle what's 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.520 normal and what is not. And as a result, I 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.080 am I have not been one of these people where 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.440 whenever there's a news item like this that just comes 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.960 out and just bashes the FBI or dismisses the FBI, 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:31.120 and but don't I read this and it doesn't make 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:35.640 any sense because we were told that for a long 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:39.040 time before this period of time when Komey was fired, 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.600 there was a counterintelligence investigation about Russian influence operations targeting 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.920 Trump and probably a lot of other people. But that's 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.760 not in the news and that's not being leaked out. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.600 So how this would be new? And what is it 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.440 about the firing of Komey and what Trump said after 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.560 that that would somehow constitute new evidence to suggest that 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.480 Trump is an agent of Russia, either knowingly or unknowingly, 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.679