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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you our special guest tonight. Marylyn Hughes had a

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Speaker 1: longstanding career and broadcasting as a news anchor, reporter, producer,

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Speaker 1: and then she founded the out of Body Travel Foundation

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and three and has experience, research, written,

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Speaker 1: and taught about out of body travel since nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: She has been on the subject of the scientific study

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Speaker 1: of out of body experiences and a subject and several

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Speaker 1: other research studies. Her latest book, The Hammer of Mistesses

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Speaker 1: of Maryland. Welcome back, Thank you, George. It's great to

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Speaker 1: be back. Has it really been almost ten years since

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Speaker 1: you're on the show? I guess it's time for us

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Speaker 1: to check in with one an I think, so have

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Speaker 1: you been. I've been great. How are you doing good? Now?

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Speaker 1: Tell us how inexperienced newscaster got interested in out of

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Speaker 1: body travel. Well, you know, it happened because I just

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Speaker 1: started having the experiences early on, and it was spontaneous

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Speaker 1: at first, and it just became more like, ironically, as

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Speaker 1: a reporter, you're reporting on other things and I kind

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Speaker 1: of started reporting on other other worldly adventures. I guess

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Speaker 1: you would say, well, and you did. And now while

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Speaker 1: you were working as a newscaster, were you having these

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Speaker 1: OBEs too? I was. I was. It started very early on.

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Speaker 1: I was about twenty two when I had the first experience,

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Speaker 1: and so I was working in news for quite a

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Speaker 1: while after that. I think it was about eight more

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Speaker 1: years before I decided to go into following this full time.

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Speaker 1: Was it induced or did it just happened to you?

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Speaker 1: It just happened to me at first, but over time

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Speaker 1: I started learning ways to increase the likelihood of the experience.

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Speaker 1: But the first time was pretty much pretty unexpected. I'd say.

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Speaker 1: The Hammer of Mysticism. Tell me about the title. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Hammer of Mysticism. You know, when you're looking at

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Speaker 1: your toolbox and you've got a hammer, it's an essential tool.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is all about. It's an encyclopedic journey

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Speaker 1: into out of body travel mystical processes and terms, and

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Speaker 1: so it's your essential tool into out of body experiences.

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Speaker 1: It covers so many things in terms of all the

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Speaker 1: different energetic requirements and needs and different stages in the journey,

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Speaker 1: as well as all the kinds of different things you're

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Speaker 1: So it's like your essential tool to get started and

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Speaker 1: to keep going. Did you ever investigate them on row Institute?

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Speaker 1: The late Robert Monroe one of the best when it

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Speaker 1: came to out of body travel? Oh? Absolutely. I loved

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Speaker 1: I love the Monroe instead. Yeah, he was a giant

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Speaker 1: in the sham. Oh. Yes, yes, he's still a giant

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Speaker 1: wherever he may be. Right, that's right. You talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about being in the vibrational state. Why is that important?

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Speaker 1: The vibrational state is something that I think has misunderstood.

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Speaker 1: you go into the vibrational state because you're that's one

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Speaker 1: thing that's so important to know about vibration is that

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Speaker 1: vibration determines everything in the mystical realms, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: as human beings and our physical materialistic bodies, we are

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Speaker 1: about the vibration that you experience before having an out

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Speaker 1: And what's going to happen as you progress down the

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Speaker 1: nine books on how to have out of body experiences.

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Speaker 1: It's the fourth book in a series of nine. But

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Speaker 1: what you described is the situation and the sensation that

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Speaker 1: important to people. They're very important because ironically, I think

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Speaker 1: That's a big part of out of body experiences and

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Speaker 1: OBEs to remote viewing in your opinion, Well, remote viewing

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Speaker 1: But it is different because out of body travel is

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Speaker 1: there are serious consequences. You know, the gift, the gift

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Speaker 1: it can all be stripped from us if we misuse it.

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Speaker 1: because that is definitely something that I've seen, because you know,

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Speaker 1: our callings that people have require them to be a

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Speaker 1: So it's a different way of seeing things, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's kind of the way we were created and

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