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Speaker 1: First of all, Bro, we appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: You know you my guy. Man. We go way back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Some of that reason I'm living in

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Speaker 1: Orlando is because of you, man showing me a good

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Speaker 1: time down in your home city. Man. But we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming to rock with us.

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Speaker 2: Bro Man, I always man loved being on here.

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Speaker 1: Straight up. When you first got to the NBA, who

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Speaker 1: was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Alan Houston?

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Speaker 3: It was more it was probably more running out some screens,

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Speaker 3: you know, scres back then, like yeah, you know you

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Speaker 3: was like I was right there, you wasn't there?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was yeah.

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Speaker 1: He welcomed me Man at footwork and them screens like

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Speaker 1: Lord yeah. Me and Q. When we first seen Alan Houston, man,

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Speaker 1: we looked at his shoe. He had the little acting

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Speaker 1: the H two O on this shoe. He was like,

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Speaker 1: oh that's cold.

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Speaker 2: He ain't gonna beat you off the dribble, but if

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Speaker 2: she catches it.

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Speaker 1: A wrap, I'll pull up, pull up. DA's crazy yo

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Speaker 1: yo yo.

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Speaker 4: We live on location. Me and the Blackest One are

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Speaker 4: in city beautiful. But right now we got Old Town's finest,

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Speaker 4: one of their favorite sons coming in. We got the

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Speaker 4: Auburn Ward. Damn Eagle. Marquise Daniels is in the building.

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Speaker 4: People tapped in. Appreciate you for pulling up keys.

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Speaker 3: Bes ma, respect man. Appreciate y'all having me on. Man,

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Speaker 3: y'all keep doing y'all doing, man, I'm loving it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Orlando, Florida, you know where your boys at

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Speaker 1: right now? Represented high school. Old town's finest told us

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Speaker 1: about Orlando and you coming up and who put the

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Speaker 1: ball in your hand?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: You know, growing up, we pretty much played every sport

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Speaker 3: because we weren't trying to clean up on a Sunday

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Speaker 3: and Saturday, you know, getting out the house for mom,

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Speaker 3: get up, so everything, man, like baseball, football, basketball. My

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Speaker 3: oldest brother he was playing basketball. He was a point guard,

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Speaker 3: and you know I used to go to the court

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Speaker 3: with him. They would never pick me, like I'm the

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Speaker 3: last pick.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was playing around all the time. All I wanted

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Speaker 3: to do was the iverson crossover, get out the court.

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Speaker 3: You get out the court. So one summer, I think

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Speaker 3: I grew about about four or five inches, like that's something.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, y'all gonna pick me now. I

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Speaker 3: started I was trying to dunk everything now say off

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Speaker 3: the rim, you know, and you know Chuckie Atkins and

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Speaker 3: all those guys from you know, playing with them, you know,

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Speaker 3: oldest Smith even like my neighborhood, the older Orlando Matchic

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Speaker 3: Marina is my neighborhood. Yeah, see Shaq Dinnis, Scott, Nick Anson,

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Speaker 3: all them people. Penny like even to this day, they

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Speaker 3: still call him paramot keys Like young I was in

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Speaker 3: the middle school, you know, coming through the gym, watching

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Speaker 3: them practicing.

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Speaker 1: How dope was that brother?

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Speaker 4: Be like you saying, in middle school but really getting

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Speaker 4: being able to see Shack and like Penny the Orlando.

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Speaker 3: I was bad as hell though, bro ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I was like the first time I seen Shack, I

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Speaker 3: cussed him out.

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Speaker 2: He was chasing me, like you know what I'm saying, like.

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Speaker 1: Why why did you cut him out?

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Speaker 3: You know, for no reason, to be honest with him

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Speaker 3: walking through the gym. You know, Shack what you're looking

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Speaker 3: at him? I'm like, manuck running out of the gym,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was just my neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: right down the street, so it was cool, man, But

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Speaker 3: growing up then you know, later on just joking with him,

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Speaker 3: my teammate in Boston.

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Speaker 2: It was funny. He's like, man, I remember a little badass.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it was crazy growing up seeing you know,

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Speaker 3: back then, you know Shack and Dennis Scott them, they'd

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Speaker 3: be out in the parking like dancing, all the music playing.

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Speaker 3: So it was cool coming home from school and seeing

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Speaker 2: And not only that, you're seeing other NBA players.

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Speaker 4: I think, I mean fathom that when I was growing up,

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Speaker 1: The parking like crazy.

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Speaker 2: Man ain't gonna I was. It was inspiring.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, man, you know, growing up

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Speaker 2: You just trying to You're living in the moment, right.

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Speaker 1: So Ashwater, Wayne, did you start really taking basketball serious?

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Speaker 1: Like like this is the sport for me?

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Speaker 3: Like, Man, I played basketball because I ain't want to

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Speaker 3: like get in no trouble and stuff.

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Speaker 3: I ended up having to actually had to leave my

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Speaker 3: wasn't going to class and going to school like I

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Speaker 3: needed to, Like my junior year, I came home. Man,

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Speaker 3: So it's a Lexus parked in the hood and in

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is yah.

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Speaker 2: I walk in my room.

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Speaker 3: My mom got my bass packed. She like, you getting

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Speaker 3: the hell out of here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she made the executive decisions. So Design basically came

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Speaker 1: and got you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was playing basketball, but I ain't really understand the

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Speaker 3: whole intricates of being this player that player, getting the

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Speaker 3: ranks and all that'sff like that, man, I just wanted

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Speaker 3: to go who after that, I'm going home basketball season nowhere.

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Speaker 2: I ain't going for a second and third period. I'm

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Speaker 2: coming at lunchtime, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't realize how important it was for you

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Speaker 3: to my Design. Because we played we had my junior

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Speaker 3: I had one of like a crazy run and we

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Speaker 3: ended up beating uh kid them team for a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they saw me when we played them,

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Speaker 2: and we ended up losing Miami Senior.

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Speaker 3: That's that's actually the only year in Florida they don't

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Speaker 2: And Steve.

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Speaker 3: Like that year, like they saw me and they came

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I rad to know people in college? What

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Speaker 2: you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Like did you did you know?

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Speaker 1: Did you know? Like t mac and Omari now went

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Speaker 1: to Mama Zion before you went.

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Speaker 2: Man, I ain't I ain't know where Mamazian was at.

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Speaker 1: So you ain't know who going to North Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Like, I ain't know nothing. I just knew I was

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Speaker 1: So how was it like leaving home? You know, because

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Speaker 1: this Florida weather is great down here, leaving home and

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Speaker 1: then you get some of that cold in the North Carolina?

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Speaker 1: How was that transition for you?

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Speaker 2: And they tricked me good. It was like, you don't

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be here. Man, we move up there. Man,

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Speaker 3: we're still in the hood. It's cold. I ain't got

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Speaker 3: called home probably every day. Man ain't gonna lie. I'm like, mam,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do right. Please just let me come.

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Speaker 1: Home, Anna do well.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to get a lo out of there.

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Speaker 3: But man, they ain't helped me for college. You ain't

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Speaker 3: gonna lie because you ain't got nobody waking you up.

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Speaker 3: We had to wake up every morning like five o'clock

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Speaker 2: Man, it was crazy the second Chance school. Man. You

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Speaker 2: had so many kids.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere, all the around the world that was in trouble

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Speaker 3: and try to change their life around.

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Speaker 2: But it helped me out a lot.

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Speaker 1: How did it feel to get your first college letter?

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Speaker 1: Like when college started reaching out like, well, I know

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Speaker 1: you you probably got some lower college but when you

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Speaker 1: start seeing them big time colleges that be on TV

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Speaker 1: that you see every other weekend, How was it that

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Speaker 1: to see big time colleges looking at you want you to.

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Speaker 3: Be out of school getting them in all that though,

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know. I ain't care too much about it,

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Speaker 3: She still got all those shoe boxes, all those letters

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Moms, keep everything right.

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Speaker 2: I ain't. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know none of that, man, I wouldn't try

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Speaker 3: but he was in ju cooed, so he was kind

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Speaker 3: of in and out of trouble with you know, Jill

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Speaker 3: and this and that.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I knew Chuck and I knew Willie Anderson, but I

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Speaker 3: wasn't I was cool with him, but I you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I was still over here.

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Speaker 4: At what point at Mount Zion would you say your

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Speaker 4: mind started to change you started to look at it like, man,

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Speaker 4: I could go to school. I do want to go

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Speaker 4: transition you think you start saying like, damn, I could

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Speaker 4: I could go to school?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: After abc D camp, Like I went to ABCD camp,

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Speaker 3: you know, you see all these people that quote unquote

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Speaker 3: this player ranked here, this and that. You know, I

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Speaker 3: still I had gold teeth in my mouth tattooed like

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Speaker 3: I was, y, I'm looking at them like he right,

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Speaker 3: like right, what this is? And once I got there,

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Speaker 3: it was like I never forget. He told me it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: if you score twenty points, you can go to the league.

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Speaker 2: I had sixteen hours mad as hell.

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Speaker 1: Who was some of the guys at ABC that around

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Speaker 1: your your that you went there.

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Speaker 2: The marchin New one player that year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, uh no, U C L A. I can't even

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Speaker 3: really remember all of them, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was it was a good class. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I still got one of the articles. Man. It was

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Speaker 2: like I went from being like unranked.

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Speaker 3: So it was an article saying that I was like

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Speaker 3: number six m coming from Florida to that. Like I

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Speaker 3: like I said, I had no idea about rankings, none

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Speaker 3: of that stuff. Even when I even when I came

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Speaker 3: to Auburn, bro, I ain't know where Auburn was at. Like,

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't Auburn. I'd like, yeah, tell me the

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Speaker 2: And then I had like schools in Florida. They was like,

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Speaker 2: I always stay was close. I always stay was close.

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Speaker 3: A small tensient and fighting, yeah, big five, your station

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Speaker 3: Find them dudes had just came from being ranked number one.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, my whole mentality

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Speaker 3: That was the first place I went in that we've

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Speaker 1: Man to her, So, how was the college life for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it did as far as like with schoolworking and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had some Travis Robinson, J. L. Raymond, Like,

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Speaker 2: Like, man, these dudes, sorry, I ain't care how good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about that your senior year of sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: That like the environment of the NCAA tournament y'all, playing

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Speaker 3: Honestly, that whole scene, Yeah, I don't know what was

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Speaker 2: Like man, I used to stand out.

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Speaker 3: You know how teams run out. I used to be

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Speaker 3: They be looking at me like, man, what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: know what's gonna happened, y'all. And you know our coaches

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Speaker 3: But it helped a lot. Man, just getting prepared, we

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Speaker 3: Yeah Nelson, man, he just was here the other day scouting.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He had like thirty four going crazy, I mean had

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Speaker 3: Carmelo them in the third round, which you know they

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Speaker 3: Like it was just some dude showed who they are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you went to Alburn for four years. Did you

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Speaker 3: Man, to be honest with you to nah, I really didn't,

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Man, I I could count on my

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Speaker 3: at the time, and you know I was just basketball

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Speaker 3: I ain't go home in something like you know how

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Speaker 2: I was just I was just crying, just hitting it

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, when I leave, ain't coming back back,

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Speaker 2: Ain't coming back.

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Speaker 3: So I got my grand degree in three years out

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Speaker 3: my mom came to what two or three games in

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the grind, man, they understand the ground.

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Speaker 2: I got two cars on the driveway, bro, like grants

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Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, definitely didn't have

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Speaker 4: Out of there like that was part of me staying

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Speaker 4: That's why I stayed at De Paul in Chicago. So

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Speaker 4: they come to so many games, man, I had.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the first game she came to was they had

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Speaker 3: and like, it's like, why you're so hyped the night man,

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Speaker 3: And I just like I said, I locked in for

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Speaker 3: But I to be honest with what you answer your

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Speaker 3: I don't think they really messing with me like that.

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Speaker 3: We had like a football game, they bring everybody out

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Speaker 3: was like I started coming back a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Of your draft process, did you work out for a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen fourteen teams and all on back to back. Man,

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Speaker 3: my first one I had to go on it was

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Speaker 3: one on one with bar Both Oh.

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Speaker 1: God be beat man.

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Speaker 4: And this is before he had any type of sense,

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Speaker 4: so he was out of hell and he was running

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Speaker 4: your ass.

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Speaker 2: So already know it's crazy. The very first place, they like,

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Speaker 3: Back here, no more. He can't score from back here.

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Speaker 3: They's like, nah, get up on the man, you're crazy.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that no more. So I picked

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Speaker 3: and they was like, oh, you know they backed to

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Speaker 3: back back to back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Memphis was probably my hardest one.

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Speaker 1: Who's the coach then?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want to remember.

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Speaker 1: That was crazy work and I was I had Hubie then.

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Speaker 1: Hubie was probably coach Man.

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Speaker 2: That was a hard workout. I'm not even gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: It was probably like after my NiFe the tenth one,

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Speaker 3: like you know, you ain't break you flying here, flying there, Like.

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Speaker 5: He can't comment on this. You know, he only had

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Speaker 5: like two dinners.

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Speaker 4: He had a type of dinners, so he can't talk

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Speaker 4: and me to go to sixteen seventeen teams and it

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Speaker 4: be boom boom boom boom boom, get off a plane.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get a quick sleep and then you gotta

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Speaker 4: get up and be ready to go. And like this

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Speaker 4: is like an interview for your career, for your job.

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Speaker 4: Is pressure with this, Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: This ain't like you just going to the gym, just

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Speaker 4: go work out, Like naw, they sizing you up there,

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Speaker 4: everything you do, they looking at you. It's like it's

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Speaker 4: a draining process, bro, It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And then you might get there on your tenth one.

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Speaker 3: You on somebody that stay first one they fresh. Like

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Speaker 3: it's a different type of mentality you got to have, man,

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00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,000
Speaker 3: like you really gotta.

443
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 2: And it helped coming from where I came from that kind.

444
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 3: Of life trying to tell you I got it. I'm

445
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 3: gonna push through this, like you know what I'm saying.

446
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 3: Sports help you out so much in the world. Man,

447
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 3: you learn how to roll the punches, and you're gonna

448
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 3: get down and you're gonna lay down like you're gonna

449
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 3: pick a choice. You know.

450
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:56,720
Speaker 1: I know me.

451
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,359
Speaker 2: I can't go back home and let them be like, Man,

452
00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,919
Speaker 2: you let him do.

453
00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 1: What do you like?

454
00:18:59,640 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 2: Nah?

455
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you already know. You gotta represent. You can't get embarrassed.

456
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 1: Gotta represent. Let me ask you this getting undrafted, what

457
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 1: was the mentality you had to keep going, to keep

458
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 1: pushing even though you didn't get drafted.

459
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 3: Man, I ain't gonna lie that night. It was crazy, Man,

460
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if I cried. I no, I damn

461
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: cried if I didn't like I was so mad.

462
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: Did you have like a party or gathering with your people?

463
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like a little party. I don't know

464
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 2: if I remember. Damn.

465
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 3: What was the restaurant downtown? I can't even think of

466
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 3: it. It was like a soulful restaurant in my family own,

467
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 3: and so they wanted to have a little party. Like

468
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 3: my agent kept telling me, Man, it's gonna be here,

469
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 3: right here. It's gonna be here, right here. So I'm

470
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 3: sitting there like, man, all right. So after the first round,

471
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, like I went outside. I'm out there trying

472
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 3: to console me. I'm like, so my mom, she's standing up.

473
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I'm gonna make everybody pay. I don't

474
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 3: care who it is. Teammates, You're finna pay for this.

475
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: You know, you go through those draft processes like I'm

476
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 3: holding my own getting drafted.

477
00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: I bless, they asked.

478
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and that's the that's the part.

479
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 4: To be right here, to be boy be tugging at

480
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 4: you like it was crazy.

481
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: It helped me out because they kept that chip on

482
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 3: my shoulder, man, Like you know a lot of people like, man,

483
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 3: I'm home before and I'm like, now, I was starting

484
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: for a fact, I can't go I can't go back

485
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 3: to the I can't go back to the.

486
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 4: Sir, When did you find out you was gonna get

487
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 4: to sign with Dallas for the summer league and like

488
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 4: get your shot, like, because I know, like sometimes.

489
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: People don't get that call right away. Did you find

490
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 1: out that night?

491
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: The next morning as soon as the drivers over, like

492
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 3: they called me and then called me right after that

493
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 3: and it was like, man, I was like, well, I

494
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: just committed to Dallas so ended up going to some

495
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: summer league. Man. That was that was a whole different

496
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: experience too. That helped out a whole lot.

497
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you went crazy in the summer league. Talk about that,

498
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: how that would for you?

499
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: Man?

500
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: You know what, Like, I think it was our first game,

501
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: I had nine turnovers. I'm playing the point, so I'm like, damn,

502
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: this is different, Like, you know, you can't maybe you've

503
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 3: got some spas best they getting in the passingway. So

504
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: it was cool. But then the second game, I think

505
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: I had Earl Washington. Earl was kind of you know,

506
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: he was already I was just doing this thing. I

507
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 3: think he was coming on his third year. I think

508
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 3: he was a Memphics at the time maybe, and I

509
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: had like thirty eight and they was like oh shit,

510
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: like and.

511
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, he already in the league. So I

512
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: feel like him. Yeah, So that.

513
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: Night, I getting that confident, right.

514
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: I get back to the room, me and Josh's roommates

515
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: at the time, Danny Aing's called my room and he's like,

516
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: you signed with Dallas. I'm like, nah, you know, just

517
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: on on some league things like I don't want you

518
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: to come to Boston, Like, well, they gave me my

519
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: first hand, so I'm gonna stay with them. Actually I

520
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: hung up the first time because I'm like, man, this

521
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: ain't no.

522
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: Danny all back, like nah, this daddy for real? And

523
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: then he said what he said.

524
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: I stayed and they actually didn't want me to play

525
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 3: no more after I had thirty eight.

526
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: That hurt that game. I'm trying to keep.

527
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 1: Playing, like they wanted to keep the secret. Did you

528
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: know Josh before that? Like, was you'all friends or communicator

529
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and know? So that's when y'all first man to kind

530
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: of build a job bond locked in right away.

531
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: Actually it was doing the game.

532
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: We was playing Wake for us and Josh was guard

533
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: to somebody else and one of my teammates was like,

534
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: hey man, who is we guard?

535
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: So like, man, you better shut up out here, Jo,

536
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: just like nah, I ain't gonna shut up.

537
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: After that, It's like everywhere we went all our workouts,

538
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: we was pretty much together, always like matched up together

539
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: at different workouts, different places.

540
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Then we end up being in Dallas together. That was

541
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: a whole different experience.

542
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: And stuff like that helped out so much kind of

543
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: like you know, when y'all got to like having a pot.

544
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: So how was that to have you, you know what

545
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying, a guy that you can find y'all can

546
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: find each other because I know how tight y'all was.

547
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: Every time I seen Josh, I seen you. Every time

548
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: I seen you, I seen Josh Man, I knew y'all

549
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: friendship was solid. But how was that to have somebody

550
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: like him be there with you and go through the

551
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: same experiences as you, even though he got drafted And

552
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: when y'all started rocking together, that that was like like

553
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: it was like y'all had so much good chemistry playing together.

554
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: You can see.

555
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: It was like, man, he was like a brother from

556
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: another man.

557
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: His family and my family they all kind of similar,

558
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: you know, him being from North Carolina and I had

559
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: some ties to North Carolina. But man, just having somebody

560
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: there that you can actually talk to when things ain't

561
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: going your way, they kind of standing with things ain't

562
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: going his way.

563
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: I understanding, you know, just being there for you to like,

564
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, like when he playing good, I'm happy. What's

565
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: going on? Like, man, keep going like that, like he.

566
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Just he's doing it for both of us. Like that's

567
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you.

568
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm living through you right now.

569
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: And then because said at the beginning he was playing

570
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: a lot like my first year, you know, I ain't

571
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: play till.

572
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: Like the last thirty games.

573
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: Maybe I was up twenty down twenty were getting the game,

574
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna try to have me ten to twelve points.

575
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: Like yeah, straight up, man, what I'm going hard?

576
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Right?

577
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it was just it was good because

578
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: then when I actually got my time to play, he was, man,

579
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: he was probably one of the first guys up cheering

580
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: for me, happy for me every time.

581
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: How was it to you know, be on a team

582
00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: with so much star power? You got a Twine, Walker Nash,

583
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: you got Mike Finley, you got Shine Bradley, uh a

584
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Twine Jamison, so much star power in it and just

585
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: being around them veterans and and to me, you know,

586
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: one of the greatest owners ever is not the greatest

587
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: owner ever? And mare Cuban like, how was that?

588
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Man? Be honest?

589
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: With my first year, I get there, Dan Nelson was like,

590
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: you gotta hang with Walker every day.

591
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: So I learned a lot early, like what to do it,

592
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: what not to do?

593
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: Like, oh god, that's my boy, man. But man, it

594
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: was good. Man, it was good. And if you ain't

595
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: strong mentally, you can actually like be like, man, this

596
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: is what the league is.

597
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: I member. When I practice, we come in, you know,

598
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: Doney was like, hey, man, do this stress? Do this stress?

599
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: He's like practice. So me and Josh look at each

600
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: other like what this is like we.

601
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: Used to for our practice, you know, trying to get

602
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: into it, and Mike Kelly was like, hey, rook, don't

603
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: leave staying here, get some chots up, do this and

604
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: do that.

605
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my that look, that was my figure, him

606
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 4: and Big Juwan and the gym in Chicago. Them dudes

607
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: was was my was my picture of perfection. Like they

608
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: was the top of the league, making max money. Coolest. Hell,

609
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: they was ogs. They hollered at us on the regular.

610
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 4: They always had some some like and it wasn't on

611
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: no cocky big boy. It was always some wisdom and

612
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: some cool stuff. So I always, like, to this day,

613
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: I always got to honor them too.

614
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, have you ever seen Mike

615
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Finn with his shirt untuck?

616
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: Never and practice it didn't matter. It was tucked in.

617
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect. It was perfect too.

618
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: Man today to this day, when I ever I took

619
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: a shirt and I'd be like, I get that Mike

620
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 4: fing on you feel I.

621
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: Swear I say that every time hey Man changed Jersey's

622
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: this whole uniform and halftime.

623
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: One time I was like, man, what you doing. He's like, man,

624
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: playing good.

625
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what tucking that joint in? Man? N kept

626
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: that thing he took, that's my man.

627
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: He definitely helped me out a whole lot, Like even

628
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: to this day, he still check on me and everything.

629
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: But and Steve Nash gave me some knowledge earlier though.

630
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: He was like, man, you want to be good. It's like,

631
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: don't do what everybody else in here doing. And I'm like,

632
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: I'm at first I'm trying to restore what he's saying.

633
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: But I see everybody else that, you know, they vents,

634
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: they can do what they need to do. And I

635
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I need to stay extra, I

636
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: need to cover early, I need to do this. And

637
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: it helped a lot, you know, just trying to get

638
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: to that point. But he helped me out a whole lot,

639
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, even playing in the game when it was

640
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: like real just running that's all I got to.

641
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: Do man, I'm out tell me this though when you

642
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: talk about nast because people a lot of people don't

643
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: think this was a real thing. Like how many time

644
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 4: would you walked in the gym and see Steve doing

645
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: some of his stuff and you be like, man, what

646
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: is he doing? Like he'd be first, he'd be doing

647
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: the little stuff with the wires and the love you know,

648
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: the love core stuff he do, and then like you say,

649
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: the love floaters. People think that was improvle Bro would

650
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: sit there and do I don't know how me here,

651
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: flip the ball himself and then just no no no,

652
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: then layout and then lay out and do that little

653
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: shot like.

654
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: It was crazy man.

655
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Like even some of his workouts, like he'll be on

656
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: like a medicine ball or.

657
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: Spider he's a spider money on that ball like boom,

658
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: he could go jump on that joint like and.

659
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm like I can on this mother, like but he

660
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: his core and all that even without first conditioning. It

661
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: was like, you know, we gotta do this running test.

662
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, if I could just stay behind Steve, I'm

663
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: all right, that.

664
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: Was my spot.

665
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: Like him cool, like man, his condition was crazy, but

666
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: like those one leg all balanced shots and all that stuff.

667
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: It's like, man, him and Dirt used to be working

668
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: on that stuff.

669
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, these dudes crazy, Like I'm never gonna

670
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: shoot that in the game. Like man, man, it was

671
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: a fishing with it, like just coming out that that

672
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: runner jump shot. He used to do it the free

673
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: throw line like he was one of the first one

674
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: I've ever seen doing that, like consistently, like when nasty bro,

675
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: it was nasty with it.

676
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: How was it for you when you got your shot

677
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: when Steve got sick and then you got the player

678
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 4: and damn there had a triple double?

679
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Like how did that feel for you?

680
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Like after not playing sitting and like I know how

681
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: that is you Then when you do get your shot

682
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: and you took off with it.

683
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: Man, you know in price, you know you got to

684
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: have that stay ready crew.

685
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: So like them dudes playing, So we're playing against the

686
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: other guys like I'm at their head.

687
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: Like going crazy.

688
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: So he gets sick and like I said, I was

690
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: up twenty down twenty type player to get in and

691
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: coach came.

692
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: It's like rookie, you start to night at twenty Jameson, Like, bitch,

693
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: you an stopped playing now? Joking, they're gonna get into

694
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: the game.

695
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: I don't be anyway, so my minutes ain't gonna matter,

696
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: like whether we win to lose. So he's like, bitch,

697
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: you stopped playing now then, man, I like I said,

698
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: I had like fourteen.

699
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: Nine and nine. I think it was after that.

700
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: He was like eighteen, twenty one, twenty whatever it was,

701
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: and he was like, rookie, you always been able to

702
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: score like that.

703
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, just put me in the game.

704
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm confidous up, you know, I'm good, like especially playing

705
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: with them dudes, like you can't help nobody.

706
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: Like we had shooters everywhere.

707
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all had squad.

708
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: And he was like, man, we're gonna put you on

709
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 3: the block. You're gonna post little guards up.

710
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: And I was like perfect. So it helped me out

711
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: a lot.

712
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: And that goes back to playing in college, like, man,

713
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: I started every position here at album from five to four.

714
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: Had to started to win my junior year and then

715
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: my senior year I got to play the two three.

716
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: But it helped out was a blessing in the skies

717
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: because it's like, you can't just put a smaller guard

718
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: on me.

719
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: Man.

720
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: Even still, I was able to handle the ball good

721
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: enough to get to my spots and do what I

722
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: need to do. But it helped a lot. Man, just

723
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: getting that chance. And I'll never forget. We gets to Orlando,

724
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I knew you already, look sleepy,

725
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: don't don't play too relaxed. I'm like bad, oh cool.

726
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: So he ended up started me. Then we went small

727
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: ball in the playoffs and against Chris Webber and Mike

728
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Bibby and all them and Sacramento.

729
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: That was crazy, I said, I just I was talking

730
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: to my wife, you know, I was like, man, we.

731
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: Was just home, you know, in college, looking at them

732
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: playing on TV, and it's like actually being there hearing

733
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: them cole Bills.

734
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It was a loud of hell and nothing.

735
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: How was it to start in the playoff series? Like

736
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: now you starting? Now he's he got confidence in you

737
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: to start the game and you starting the postseason Like

738
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: that's the show, that's the stage right there that you

739
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: want to want to get to.

740
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was at first.

741
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: It's you know, so you know how it is when

742
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: you first get in there, Like just the atmosphere it's crazy,

743
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: like everybody watching like it's t and t the people

744
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: you hearing when you in college saying to name, Now

745
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: you hearing the I'm saying your name. You know, you're

746
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 3: trying not to be you know, shock celebrity shop. When

747
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: you see people see it front row, you're like, man, man,

748
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: that's such and such. But you gotta still play because

749
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, these dudes see blood,

750
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: they gonna try and take.

751
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: Advantage of you.

752
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: So it was cool, man, I ain't gonna lie just

753
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: getting out there. But playing with those veterans helped out

754
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: so much because they made it easy for me, Like,

755
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: because they had so much attention on them. All I

756
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: had to do was just go out there and do

757
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: what I was supposed to do, you know, just all.

758
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Even though you didn't play really the first half of

759
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: the season, you wind up making All Rookie second team. Yeah,

760
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: then tho folks had to you know, because you didn't

761
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: get undrafted. The best thing about not getting undrafted when

762
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: you get to play, you get that bag early man.

763
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: You get that bag early man. How was it when

764
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: you heard thirty eight man, you know, a million dollars

765
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: going to come your way.

766
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: The best part of that was before that happened. Eddie Naharah.

767
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: You know how.

768
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: When he comes in, he got his text up. I

769
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: think I'm getting maybe three fifty at the time.

770
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: That's leave memomir. He comes in, He's like, Ricky, look

771
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: at this. I'm like, oh, hell, I gotta give you

772
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: some bread.

773
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: You willing to check out to I ain't never seen

774
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: them in the zero man, Like I got to get

775
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: my life together.

776
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: So that helped me out lying a lot.

777
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: That motivated me a lot too, because I'm like, man,

778
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: Eddie don't really do much, but he do his job good.

779
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, he do what he do.

780
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: So I'm like, this is what it takes. This small stuff. Man,

781
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: let me let me like in yeah, man, I ain't

782
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: gonna lie. It was actually in the projects.

783
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: Man.

784
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: It was upstairs at my aunt's house. Well, I was

785
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: standing outside tank top is hot as hell. You know,

786
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm standing outside my wife, my mom, all them sitting

787
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: up stuffs, and you know, my agent call like, hey, man,

788
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: you're sitting down.

789
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what's up? Man? Like what you're talking about?

790
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: You like? Got it done? Like yeah, we got what done?

791
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Then he told me nothing, but man, I ain't gonna lie.

792
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: It was like I was shocked and I went up

793
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: and when I told my mom and just knowing from

794
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: you know, seeing her having you know, working these three

795
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: four jobs, not knowing how we do need it. You know,

796
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: these notices on the door, and you know what I'm saying,

797
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, like the shoes you having to wear school

798
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: when you're younger. Tonight, It's like, like this is a

799
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: good feeling, man, because I think every kid's dreams to

800
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: take care of their mom at some point, especially when

801
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: they went through so much and seeing what they had

802
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: to go through to get you where you was at. Like, man,

803
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: you know you wanted them shoes, but sometimes you got

804
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: to playing them Day nine Hunters.

805
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: You know.

806
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: I was so happy that I had a big feet

807
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: that I could even make my side that I ain't

808
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: know to go there.

809
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Like this, man, I got my mind travels one game.

810
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, we can't do this. I can't stop. It was.

811
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: It was a blessing, man, just to be able to

812
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: get her out of that situation.

813
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: And you know, I got a younger brother, and then

814
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: like I said, my brother was he was actually locked

815
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: up at the time.

816
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Still.

817
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all know something I brother like he was he

818
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: was actually still locked up at the time, He's like, man.

819
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: We and him and you know it better.

820
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: I touched that TV when y'all playing. You know, just

821
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: stuff like that that give you motivation. You know what

822
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that you got people that's in the box that.

823
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: They look at you, they like first generation millionaire.

824
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 2: Man, this was it man a lot. Man.

825
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna like change a lot, change the family,

826
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: change the dynamics.

827
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: They helped out a lot. Man.

828
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I thank God for it every day.

829
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: Thank you the maths and glass Steve got sick.

830
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Man.

831
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: I feel like this is appropriate to ask this right

832
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: now because I know, you know, needless to say you

833
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: took care of mom. Dudes, you know, no more projects

834
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: and all that, But what the keys? What the young

835
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: Orlando fighting his keys?

836
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Dude?

837
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: Like right now you probably look bad like this was crazy.

838
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: And even if you don't mention this one thing, I'm

839
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: gonna bring this one thing up. But I'm just I'm

840
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: gonna hear from you. What what did you do when

841
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: you got that bag? Because that's a big bag for

842
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: just going into your second year. People don't get that

843
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: it was making more money than Lebron Mellow d wade

844
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: all them boys and in your second year? So like,

845
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: what did keys do with the bag?

846
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: I think the first well, man, Actually, for me that

847
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: was good for me was you know, like I said,

848
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: got my mom's house car.

849
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Like that was for me.

850
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: That was the best thing ever. Yeah, I was cool,

851
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: like I came from not having I'm cool with it.

852
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: But man, I don't even to be honest with you,

853
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what I did.

854
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: Like you ain't get no chain, no whip, no nothing

855
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: like that.

856
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 5: Okay, well now let me let me rephrase my question.

857
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 5: When did you get the Hummer?

858
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Did me and d Miles ren up on in the

859
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 4: parking garage that had real yappas in the neon lights,

860
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: with yappas in the window on the thing?

861
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: I was like, remember, d we read up aout it.

862
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: This ain't real people, not all this Texas bro. You

863
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't never seen.

864
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 5: Nothing, like when did you tell me about the Humber?

865
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: The Hummer?

866
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, world the Hummer was crazy, y'all.

867
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that. I had a camouflage from I

868
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: got that.

869
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I think it was an army artillery vehicle camouflage.

870
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: That I had r in the top. I had Macalemas

871
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: in the sidewhere in.

872
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: The windows with the light on it. That was you

873
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: could see him through the window real. I was like,

874
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: is this real? He was like yeah. I'm like what

875
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: he was like this Texas.

876
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this is the crazy I think. I

877
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: had like eight twelves and the like I exploring, like,

878
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: you know, I had the old schools.

879
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: I think cars was probably one of my things. I

880
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: always did, like the old schools. And you know, then

881
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: I got the change. I got that one which.

882
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: The man had listened. Y'all gotta go YouTube and google it,

883
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: y'all world. The man had the first ever for real

884
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: three D like with with the dreads and like, I

885
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: remember when when Jason did that Jason Beverly Hill, like

886
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: when he told me I'm doing some crazy shit from

887
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: how did you come up with that?

888
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: What made you?

889
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: It was crazy?

890
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: We're in LA he comes to my room. He got

891
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: like a skinny machine or something. He's like, man, I

892
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: need you to lay down what you're doing? So y'all

893
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: lay down and he scammed my face. He's like, you're

894
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: gonna like this come back man.

895
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: He showed me.

896
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's crazy, like man like now you see

897
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: all the rappers doing, I'm like, get that way like

898
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: an old four five.

899
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: I still got it. Man, that changed about about four

900
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: or five pounds. Man. She that's a damn voodoo dog.

901
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had the big out for a pended

902
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: piece like man, I had had all kind of crazy

903
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: jewelry to the point like it's harked me to wake

904
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: up and put it.

905
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: On now like I don't even Yeah it's too big.

906
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: I got Yeah, I can't do it. Just seeing people

907
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: not wake up and put fake jewelry on, that's crazy.

908
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Man, straight up. Every people.

909
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: Today, Man, wake up with confidence, like I get my

910
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: drip together, like bro, it's turned green man everything.

911
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Hey, tell us about your h The run y'all made,

912
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, going all the way to

913
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and playing against Miami, playing against Shaq

914
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: and d Wade Alonzo morning, the run y'all made to

915
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: get there with you, Jason, Terry, Jerry, Jerry Stackhouse Dirt

916
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: and I felt like you and Josh was like that

917
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: that key piece to that run because you know, all

918
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: these guys are superstar. Stack has been big time in

919
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: the league. But the way y'all fit being all around

920
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: defensive end and offensive end. Y'all had to guard the

921
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: best player. Plus y'all had to come back down and

922
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: get buckets too. Just tell us about that run and

923
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: just make it to the finals and you get the

924
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: finals atmosphere, how you know, the playoffs is one thing,

925
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: but once you get to the finals, this is the

926
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: last series, it changes a little bit more. It takes

927
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: another step up. So tell us about all that.

928
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: That was the next level, man, Like like you said,

929
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: me and Josh kind of balanced it out.

930
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: You know, we had some veteran guys that even when

931
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: they get tired, it's like, nah, we ain't tired.

932
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: Were ready to run. We don't.

933
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: We got what we got to do. We was trying

934
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: to run through a wall. Like, man, we close this

935
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: close to getting the ring. Like, like you say, man,

936
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: been in that atmosphere even when you know they got

937
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: the trophies out here, the big trophy stand up you

938
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: got to walk through. They calling out your name and

939
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: that's crazy within itself, and it's like everybody in the

940
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: world watching right now because that's really going on.

941
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: This is it?

942
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: Like, so that atmosphere was beyond it's saying, you know,

943
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: playing against Miami. Being from Florida, it was already it

944
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: was like an extra motivation for me just to want

945
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 3: to get to that point.

946
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: Man.

947
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: But even playing in that, you know, like we got

948
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: reverse wept, we was up too old. You know, it

949
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: was crazy man.

950
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: You know, but you know that. I mean, Miami plays good.

951
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: But even with that, like we after the last game,

952
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: like my daughter was.

953
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 3: Actually born that night after game six, Like I didn't

954
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: playing that game. Like I'm at the hospital in the wife.

955
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: She's like, man, go to the game. I'm like, man,

956
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: damn that game. It's my first child. Like, so I

957
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: ended up going to the game.

958
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: I actually played really good and soon as the game

959
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: is so if I ran straight back to the hospital

960
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: and she was born that night.

961
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: Wow, that's I didn't even know that. That's crazy.

962
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: She she a freshman here at all right down the

963
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: women's basketball team.

964
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I see. How proud that make you feel?

965
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: That not only is she hooping, but she had Joe

966
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: longday and you get.

967
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: To be there with her. What how that how that feel?

968
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Man?

969
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: They playing three days So it's like, man, you know,

970
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: now you could go and buy the jerseys with the

971
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: nil stuff. So I was like I just went online

972
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: about her jerseys. I'm like, man, it's crazy, Like that's crazy.

973
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: My wife played here too, So yeah.

974
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: When she came out with her now, but I'm like,

975
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: well them was you gonna get She always had number three,

976
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: you know from high school all.

977
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: She came out with eleven. I'm like, you's not eleven.

978
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: She's like, you know, mom was thirty three, us three.

979
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: You know, I was all right, that's hard. Yeah, he

980
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: rapped too. Like, man, she's a version of me.

981
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: Bro Like, just she just gonna that's her. She's just

982
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna be hurt.

983
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit too much of me. I'd

984
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: be like, you got yeah, you know, all your kids

985
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: a little bit to us. Uh, they do a lot

986
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: more than what we do. We ain't have access to

987
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: do a lot more. We probably would have, but we

988
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: ain't have the access to do a lot more. So

989
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: seeing them doing a whole lot more now, it's just

990
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: it's just crazy.

991
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: That's it.

992
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Tell us about my favorite owner ever, Mark Cuban. Man,

993
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: just tell us about just having an owner like Cube. Man,

994
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I feel Cube is a player's owner, man, Like just

995
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: seeing how cool he was, man, how he took her

996
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: of the team, made sure the team was first class

997
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: and everything that they had and they do. Just tell

998
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: us about having the own the like Mark Cuban for

999
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: your first couple of years being in the league.

1000
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Man, it was it was different, man, he said, he said,

1001
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: the standards high for everybody else, Like you know, coming in,

1002
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: that's ricky, Like you got PlayStations.

1003
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: In your locker, you get you eating good every day,

1004
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: you see.

1005
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: So it's crazy, like it was just even when like

1006
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: I said, when my child was born, you know, he

1007
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: sending me stuff, you know, for my kids, making sure

1008
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: your family straight when they come in in town.

1009
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: Like it was just different, bro, Like you know what

1010
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, coming in, you don't know what it's making.

1011
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Then you see that it's like just everybody like this.

1012
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: But everybody ain't like that.

1013
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't like that.

1014
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: Hey, Like he's still you know, he's still send me message,

1015
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: text me, he send me mess you know, come in

1016
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: on different stuff. Like so he been one of the

1017
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: ones that like he when he actually cared for your love,

1018
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: he really sure.

1019
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, was as long as you're playing for me, I

1020
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: care for you. He actually go far and beyond that.

1021
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: Were you able to notice the difference like you say

1022
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: that standard, he said, Like once you got traded to

1023
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: the Pacers, how quickly were you able to tell? Like

1024
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: you just looked around like damn, man, that pace a team.

1025
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: Ain't this saying you know the team I'm saying. I'm

1026
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: not talking about the team, the players or anything.

1027
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1028
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: I'm talking about just from like the stuff you said,

1029
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: like how the locker room, how to plan, how places

1030
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: you stayed, Like you know how it is when you

1031
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: go to different teams.

1032
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: You noticed date right away like.

1033
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: Wait, damn, like it was going like, well, we ain't

1034
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 5: going to that hotel?

1035
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: Did you pull up to this I'll tell you, like, well, okay,

1036
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: it was just different.

1037
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: Man.

1038
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: I think you was so locked in with sports like

1039
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: he was, like almost he wanted to play as well,

1040
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: Like so he wanted to make sure that you was

1041
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: comfortable doing what you needed to do. And you know

1042
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: other teams, you know they was owners that had they

1043
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: probably own his soccer teams and all kinds of other

1044
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: stuff folks, Like he's on basketball besides you know the

1045
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: tech stuff he was doing. But like when it came

1046
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: to basketball, he made sure his players need They ain't

1047
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: want for nothing.

1048
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: Man, I don't care what it was like.

1049
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: Man, yeah, the word was out. We used to hear,

1050
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: we knew.

1051
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah it was crazy, man, like like even like you

1052
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: you need for food or nothing, like you know, I was,

1053
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: let me get some of this to go home.

1054
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I love playing Dallas because after Dallas, we had a

1055
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: platter everybody walking out out the locker room with him, like, man,

1056
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: he just feed us this.

1057
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 5: We had q boon.

1058
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: We had to tell him, like we had to get

1059
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: him props for kind of paving the way. That's everywhere now,

1060
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: that's every Every team has food now after games like that,

1061
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: every team like you can eat like you don't have to,

1062
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 4: like and I'm talking about the visiting team, they ordered

1063
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: it for their own team now so they don't have

1064
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: to get it from the from like the team the

1065
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: hosting team. Like every team do that across the board now.

1066
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: I feel like he was like a pioneer with that

1067
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: because that was a standard every time, Like, yeah, they

1068
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: got whatever they got, but this was in our locker

1069
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: room right there in that hallway and the visiting locker room.

1070
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: You just got it.

1071
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna eat good man, I'm talking about he even

1072
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: had it to the point like I don't know how

1073
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: other teams was, but like the family room, they was.

1074
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Eating just as bad as players, like everything.

1075
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm like my brother and my wife and be like, man,

1076
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: I all got this and that in you you know

1077
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: they you know, they get and everything. So I'm like, man,

1078
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: this is actually all right. But like I said, I

1079
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: didn't know other places. It wasn't like that until you

1080
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: got there and you're like, yeah, this is like Dallas,

1081
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: so you gotta doabt and you gotta but you know

1082
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: it's allful the good.

1083
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: But Q definitely set that stone for.

1084
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: You know, making everybody better as far as taking care

1085
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: of his players, as was the other team.

1086
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: How was it when you heard you got traded? Was

1087
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: was Josh one of the first people you call once

1088
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: you got traded? And was you excited to kind of

1089
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: go to a new chapter and see if you had

1090
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: another opportunity to you know, kind of step up. You

1091
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: know most people take trades like all right, well they

1092
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: want me here, maybe I can. I can be the

1093
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: man at this team. And I played the role that

1094
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: I was playing at the last team.

1095
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Man. Actually I was kind of glad I got traded.

1096
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: Man, Avery, we're cool now, but we was kind of

1097
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: bumping heads at the time, and you know, I was

1098
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: wanting to play more and he wasn't.

1099
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: Really playing me as much too.

1100
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I gotta get out of here,

1101
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: like because I'm still I'm locked into the team, but

1102
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm ambitious too as well, like I know I could

1103
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: do more. Like when you feel like you still got

1104
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: a lot of in the tank and you're playing a

1105
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: little bit of minutes here and it's like it's like

1106
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: for me, like I'm feeling myself losing contact, you know,

1107
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: contact with the game. It's like you know how it

1108
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: is when you ain't playing, man, you turn into one

1109
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: or two things, man a drunk all whore.

1110
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: And I wasn't trying to be neither one of them.

1111
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, just being real.

1112
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: Real talk, that's real talk. It's real talk.

1113
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: I need to do it like and like in on

1114
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: the game.

1115
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: But when you ain't playing, man, you like there's some

1116
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: bullshit like dude, I ain't playing. He ain't really give

1117
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: me no reason why. It's just like and you can't

1118
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: really complain because you're winning. So I was like, man,

1119
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: I just need to get out of here, Like I

1120
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: don't want to be no little teammate, let me just

1121
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: let me just go and get out of here, for

1122
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 3: I not like do it anymore.

1123
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: Right, So, when you got to Indiana and you've seen

1124
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: the squad, you got Danny Grainge, you got Mike Dunlee, TJ. Ford,

1125
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: Troy J. Ford, what did you see the moves that

1126
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: y'all can make and what you can do.

1127
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: So that was the team before the trade. That was

1128
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: the team after the trade. So when I first got

1129
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: there with Steve Jackson Al Harrison, but.

1130
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was when, Yeah, when he first got you

1131
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: just you just fell into some ships to be.

1132
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't to death row like we over here like man,

1133
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: it was like every night it was it was something.

1134
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: It was a damn movie. Every night we went out

1135
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: out there like it was crazy.

1136
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: That's right, man.

1137
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: But you know when they made that trade, actually I

1138
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: think they I'm glad, I'm glad they haven't, but I

1139
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: think they kind of gave up on that team a

1140
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: little early.

1141
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: Because we had some good pieces.

1142
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: Well we probably did some things, you know with Al

1143
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: and Jack you know, Jamaral and Jo like that team

1144
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: was pretty good, said to be good. And yeah, we

1145
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: got Mike and t J. And mrth Man one of

1146
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: my favorite teammates. Man mirth crazy so Brth cuts people.

1147
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Out of the things. He damn who you are? He man?

1148
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: That another good friend of mine. Man, it was good

1149
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: when it was over there. You know, Danny was coming

1150
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: into himself. You know Danny Man when he gets hot,

1151
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: He got hot.

1152
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, rap, you know he was.

1153
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: Playing on both ends of the floor. I think we

1154
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: had Jared Jack as well around that time.

1155
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: Man and Foster, Jill Foster.

1156
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: Jill Foster athletic boy.

1157
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: Man asthletic gonna set some of the meanest screams, like

1158
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: what you man, you don't know if you're gonna play

1159
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: that night, especially walk around shoot around with Jill Man

1160
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 3: he was I don't know if I remember David Harrison, Yeah,

1161
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: big failure we had, Man, We had a decent team. Man,

1162
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: we had a chance to do some things. He had

1163
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: Jim O'Brien, you'll remember him.

1164
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, you scared to go out the night before

1165
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: because what practice? That ain't gonna be crazy. You don't

1166
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: happen to my shoot around.

1167
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: They don't do that no more, even like that Patino background.

1168
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: That's why he was going crazy.

1169
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: Man. It was crazy. Man to my I remember one

1170
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: game he was just jail. I'm like, man, you're gonna

1171
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: have a damn aneurysm. It's like I already did.

1172
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: Crazy real for real.

1173
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: So when you got traded to Boston, you was worried

1174
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: about how you and KG and Paul was gonna kind

1175
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: of get along and click nah man.

1176
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: To be honest, like we had just played them, and

1177
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: it's like we all you know how they are, like

1178
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: we had beat him and so we had beat him

1179
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: in Andy.

1180
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: We go to Boston and so they was on some

1181
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: you know how they get the bullshit like trying to talk.

1182
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: And say, man, I don't funk about nothing of y'all

1183
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, basketball is I just so happened

1184
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: to know how to play, y'all better leave me funk along.

1185
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: So when I get to Boston, I'm thinking it's gonna

1186
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: be something. Yes, I get a locker room. My locker

1187
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: actually right next to me, So I'm like, oh, shoot,

1188
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen, but it's whatever.

1189
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: It is it is.

1190
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: So I get in, come in with that Cali yeh.

1191
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: Got his speeed sideway you know, you know.

1192
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: Ticket like yeah, yeah, yeah, what's you know like yeah

1193
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: people got we got six and you or not. So

1194
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: it was all love and it was just from that

1195
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: day all man. Ta was like like Josh Howard, you know,

1196
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: like young you know, t a real and like man

1197
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: Tha Man he been Orlando with me and I'm being

1198
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: in Chicago with him.

1199
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: Ta he living like just like I am. You know

1200
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it was crazy. It was like

1201
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We was able to move

1202
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: around and do what we needed to do with Man,

1203
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: that was just a real team. Man. Dudes held each

1204
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: other accountable.

1205
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: That's probably one of the the teams that actually they

1206
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: kind of helped coach each other outside like they held

1207
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: each other accountable and they was getting on each other

1208
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: like you fucking up, like you out help some bullshit,

1209
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: and they respected and they got it together.

1210
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Man. That team was fun.

1211
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: Tell me about the time, Bro, when you had the

1212
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 4: collision with Gil. I remember seeing this on TV watch

1213
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: the highlights, like damn, what the hell happened like because

1214
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: it didn't look like nothing really, but it was like

1215
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 4: the way you went out then you had you had

1216
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: the injury. Tell T walk me through that and how

1217
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: you found out what was going on and like what

1218
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 4: you actually experienced when it happened.

1219
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: So, man, I'm gonna go all the way back to Dallas.

1220
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: It was my second year in Dallas. That's when I really.

1221
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: Realized I had something going on.

1222
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all noticed, Like my neumbors in

1223
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: my career started kind of going down a little bit

1224
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: around that time. Like, man, I played one game and

1225
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: like if I get hit, man I'm hurt for like

1226
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: two three weeks, maybe longer than that. Like I couldn't

1227
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: even look up without getting burning sensations in my arms.

1228
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: Like that shit was bro like.

1229
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: So my I was born with spinalstinosis and I ain't

1230
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 3: have movement in my canal, so if I got bumped

1231
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: a little bit of anything like sometimes I should have

1232
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: shut down.

1233
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the hell going on? I didn't

1234
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: know exactly what it was. I'm trying to play through it,

1235
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: but I'm like I can't going in here, like driving

1236
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: to the basket and doing this and that. I was

1237
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: trying to play through it.

1238
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: And then I actually had a situation in Dallas where

1239
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: I got hit and I went to especialist. Dude told

1240
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: me to retire, like this my second year and you're crazy,

1241
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I just got here, not your mind. So I'm trying

1242
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: to get through it. So I had missed like two

1243
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: three weeks after that, like I missed a lot of

1244
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: time due to my spine. Like you know, I know

1245
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: a lot of people like, man, you missed a lot.

1246
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: I ain't playing that much, but a lot of that

1247
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: was like it wasn't and then I can control it.

1248
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: Was just like I get hit a certain way and

1249
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: my whole whitey is just like just go crazy and

1250
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: shut down. Like I'm telling my from hamstring injuries to like,

1251
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 3: I ain't know my spine controlled so much of you.

1252
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: So and I say jured because of something like that,

1253
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: which I didn't know, but that injury would gil like

1254
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: and I was making a sweep through move my forehead

1255
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: when I say it barely.

1256
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: Touched the shop.

1257
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, remember seeing how like it was

1258
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: it grazed his shirt. And when it did, like I

1259
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: lost spelling and everything. I was paralyzed on the fourth

1260
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: for about five minutes until you know, that's what they

1261
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 3: put me on a stretch in and my nerves started

1262
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: firing back up. On the rise of the hospital, I'm

1263
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: like man, y'all, don't cut this jersey off me. Like

1264
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: it felt like somebody was putting cigarettes out of all

1265
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: over my body, like you know, urs is almost like

1266
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: again and it just burned. Why it was like that,

1267
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: and they're like, man, you can't play them. I'm like, man,

1268
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't give it, damn long as I could walk, Like,

1269
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 3: I got kids, Man, I got my son and my daughter.

1270
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: I got to be able to, you know, play with them.

1271
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: This is what I'm thinking.

1272
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: And so it was like, you gotta have surgeon. Well,

1273
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: I gotta have surge if I ain't playing no more.

1274
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 3: So I ended up getting surgery. I got three screws

1275
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: and a sling in my spine right now, well just

1276
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: to keep my canal open to like I can hold

1277
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: my head up and stuff like I still can't turn

1278
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: that far to the left.

1279
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: But man, it was bad. Like I never really told nobody.

1280
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: I just tried to play through everything because you know

1281
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I was undrafted.

1282
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: I ain't you know what I'm like, I'm trying to

1283
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: show my rup every.

1284
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't understand, like it's a lot of players

1285
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: that got that's certain type of injuries that they know

1286
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: their time is kind of ticking, so they played through

1287
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: it one of Brandon Roy. Brandon Roy knew and we

1288
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: all knew that he didn't have that much time. So

1289
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: he got in that training room and gave all he

1290
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: got for the few years because you know, eventually he

1291
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: was gonna have to stop rowin.

1292
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: It never got hurt, man.

1293
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, and they knew that from the get go.

1294
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of guys that go through a

1295
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. But you know, we gotta get this

1296
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: money or we gotta get to this money. So I'm

1297
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna ride it on out until i can't ride it

1298
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: no more, no question.

1299
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: I remember that one specifically though, bro, like he said,

1300
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 4: because that's what was like alarming about it, because like

1301
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: they showed the replace so many times, he barely touched it.

1302
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't like when you see somebody like boom and

1303
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: you'd be like, oh it was man, it was so incident,

1304
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: like it was incidental contact. Like Billy was ain't thinking

1305
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: heat the way, Like I knew. What scared me was

1306
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: how you feel because you didn't break your fault. You know,

1307
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: when somebody fall they trying like if they try and

1308
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: put that, you just feel.

1309
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: Like I was like, thank God, my brother and my

1310
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: uncle was at game.

1311
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: My wife she was back home with Georgia with the kids,

1312
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: and like they watching the game, and she was like, man,

1313
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: she jumped on the first flight to get there.

1314
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Like that was probably the crazy part about it. Man.

1315
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even scared, though, That's the crazy thing about it.

1316
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't scared, Like you know what I'm saying,

1317
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: just growing up with a religious background my whole time,

1318
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Man, it never got your heart in this,

1319
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: I guess never got your heart in this. Like when

1320
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: I finally got back, it was just like, man, I

1321
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: don't know what what you're trying to tell me God,

1322
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: but you know I'm listening, like and so it just

1323
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: it puts stuff in different perspective for me, man, just

1324
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: to understand that, Like, man, it ain't all about basketball,

1325
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Like you gotta you need helping.

1326
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: Your family around, surrounding people that's gonna be there for you.

1327
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you you went to the finals with the

1328
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Celtics too. Two How was that run going to the final?

1329
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: I know you didn't play as much as you play

1330
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: with the with the first run, but you know how

1331
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: it is in the NBA, like you make it there

1332
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: and then you might not see it ever again. Just

1333
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: be part of that team and going to running and

1334
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: get to the finals again. How was that to just

1335
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: sit there and watch and see what.

1336
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: Was going on? Man?

1337
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: That was fun, man.

1338
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: You know, I actually I was like, man, I'm actually

1339
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: finna get a ring, like you know, I'm in the class.

1340
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: I ain't do much on the project, but so it

1341
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: was it was good man, just seeing them dudes out there. Man,

1342
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: just you know, even with with that team, man, like

1343
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't even realize, like, you know,

1344
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, I ticket this ticket. One of the more

1345
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: is that you got to keep putting a batteryun like

1346
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: you got to keep fighting. I'm in his ear, like,

1347
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: come on, man, you got more. He's like, man, keep

1348
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: talking to keep talking to you, like, just trying to

1349
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 3: keep him going, keeping pee going.

1350
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 2: Like them dudes, you know what I'm saying.

1351
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 3: They exhausted, but I'm trying to keep them going, keeping

1352
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: like man, this is it right, you know, just trying

1353
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: to keep them folks and locked in. And we had that, man,

1354
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: I think that's probably you know risk Kobe so when

1355
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: it his worst shooting games and I was setting on

1356
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: our test start hitting threes.

1357
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: Paul saw him like.

1358
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, we started grabbing every rebound that came off

1359
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: the board.

1360
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: I know this ship ain't happening right now. We're up

1361
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: our team going in the four. Yeah, it just wasn't

1362
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: meant for me. Had when that's all it was. But nah, man,

1363
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: that was fun. That was another fun run. Man.

1364
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: I remember we was playing in l a that like,

1365
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: he like asked everybody for a hundred dollars, get one

1366
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: hundred dollars, put it up in the ceiling. He put

1367
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: it up in there, and you know, we get like,

1368
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna be back. So man, we come back. He

1369
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: get everybody money.

1370
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: Baby. Like, man, I was like, yeah, I put it

1371
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: up here. Nobody knew it was him. That's crazy. That

1372
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: team was crazy, man.

1373
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: We had so much that were dealing with throughout the

1374
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 3: year off the court that I basically shot we made

1375
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: it that far with dudes when it came to basketball. Man,

1376
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: they was locked in and just wanted to do what

1377
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: it took to win.

1378
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: Tell us about one of the players on that team

1379
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: that I feel like I went to training camp with

1380
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: after they won the first one. I went to training

1381
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: camp then when I used to call my homeboys back home,

1382
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: and it was like, Man, this dude here different and

1383
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: he don't get the problems he deserved. And that's run though,

1384
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Man tell us about just like, man, how good of

1385
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: a player Rondo is and a leader, how his IQ

1386
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: is because he don't get the props he deserves. And

1387
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's one of the best, man, no doubt.

1388
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 3: Like Man, We'll be in the game and Rondo be

1389
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: telling another team, Man, you're in the wrong spot, Like

1390
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: how you know what he supposed to be? You know,

1391
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: he know they plays, you know, he called him plays.

1392
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: But we even get to the huddle, you know, Doc

1393
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: looking at him like, how you know we can run?

1394
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: Is like he called out. I'm like, I asked him one.

1395
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, how you know how you keep p

1396
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: KG and right happy? Like how you like you know

1397
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He's three superstars?

1398
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: How you keeping them happy? He's like, Man, I kind

1399
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: of keep in my.

1400
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: Mind, Okay, Red he had shot, he ain't touched tick

1401
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: need this Like he kind of understood that and he

1402
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: kept that, you know, programmed in his mind. So throughout

1403
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: the game, you know, most people kind of walked in

1404
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: on what they need to do. Who was like, try

1405
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: to do what he needed to do, man, just to

1406
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: keep everybody together.

1407
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: Man. I remember when remember Jeremy Lynn was on this

1408
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: crazy run. Man. I heard this story ticket like man

1409
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: showed this is the real point of man. Man put up.

1410
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: He unlocked some new shoes on two K with them

1411
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: numbers he put us.

1412
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 4: Tiggyts said he was already on him. He said that

1413
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 4: he was doing all that. He said, no, he was

1414
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 4: like he was like after the game before, y'all. I

1415
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: think he went off on somebody. And Tiggts said, Rondo

1416
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: came in and was like, yeah, I ain't want He's like,

1417
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: I'm glad that he still went off.

1418
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 5: He said he wanted to be the one to shut

1419
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: the ship down, so.

1420
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: I turned all that ward off like he get but

1421
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: I think he might have had like thirty twenty fourteen.

1422
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1423
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm looking like, man, what like you know, you're sitting

1424
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: over there and you're watching this shit, you actually look

1425
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: up at the stage like that She got thirty twenty

1426
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: six fifteen rebounds like what the hell?

1427
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: Like just looking at.

1428
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: And he' all doing it like he ain't really changing

1429
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: the space expressions too much, but you know he was

1430
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 3: good enough to like he cussed Ticket out, he cussed

1431
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: Paul like, cuts Ray out like, and they respected that

1432
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: because you know, he knew what he was supposed to

1433
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: be on.

1434
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: Everybody respected each other. Man.

1435
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: It was that was a good thing to see man

1436
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: space from a young player like him that you know,

1437
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: his IQ was crazy man, he goes, I don't know

1438
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: if he'll a coach, but if he was ever a coach, man,

1439
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: he'll be really good at it.

1440
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: Doc right now, got him over there in Milwaukee.

1441
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be really good. Man.

1442
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: Like, dude, IQ is crazy man because ship that man

1443
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: knew I was supposed to be on the court, and

1444
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: he telling other people where they supposed to be at I.

1445
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: Man, that was crazy good. And also a good dude

1446
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: off the court man.

1447
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: Like even when I got a dude off the court, man,

1448
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: great dude off the court man.

1449
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: Like, man, you need to school. Like he was just

1450
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: just a real good dude. Man. It's really good dude.

1451
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like Rondo get a bad rap.

1452
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: How good of a player he was and how good

1453
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: of a teammate he was, Like he was dope to me.

1454
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite one. I ain't spend that

1455
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: much time with him, but the aura he give off,

1456
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. And anytime somebody that played with him,

1457
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: I always make sure they shot him out because man,

1458
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: he's a dope player and he should be represented the

1459
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: right way.

1460
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: Man, definitely. Now it was one of them different guys. Man,

1461
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: we got too Regis I wanted with with Boston Lakers.

1462
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: The Lakers, he'll win her too, man, like like real student,

1463
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: another game. Man, He's just gonna do what you gotta

1464
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: do to get better. Like he can't shoot, Okay, I'm

1465
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: knock down these fift team fullers on he can't do that.

1466
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this like he's gonna show you and

1467
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna do it and now you can't now what

1468
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 3: you know.

1469
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: He's just one of them dudes. Man. You know the game,

1470
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: love the game of basketball, and he got a bright

1471
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: future in this game.

1472
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: Talk to me about making that move and becoming like

1473
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: now now you kind of moving into that o G

1474
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: veteran role when you get to the Bucks and talk

1475
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: about that team with Mantae Ellers, Bjdn, Levy Tobias.

1476
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so man, that's crazy. Like actually that year, I'm

1477
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: like man, I'm about I'm about to be dumb. This

1478
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: sh like my body hurt, like my next still bother

1479
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: me a little bit. I don't have the surgeon, but

1480
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm still like I ain't. I ain't who I need

1481
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: to be out here, you know what I'm saying. So

1482
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: I get traded. I go to the ball on Milwaukee.

1483
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm over there.

1484
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be mentoring Tobias. Man. They trade him

1485
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: the first week. I'm like, what's like, you got to start?

1486
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't come to play. I came. I

1487
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: came a bit for him. So now I'm playing because

1488
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: Luke my Bueta he was hurt.

1489
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I.

1490
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: Had to like start and I'm like, man, you know

1491
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: I ain't really here man, I'm about checked out for real.

1492
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: But playing with Monte and Brandon, man, that was different.

1493
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 3: Like two young guards that's very talented, the tail. They

1494
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: got an alpha mentality about each other, like they go,

1495
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 3: they both they both gonna get thirty shots.

1496
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: Like ship, both with the ship.

1497
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so any night they lied to score. But you know,

1498
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: when you're smaller guard, like everybody gonna kind of take you. Man,

1499
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna try to.

1500
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: Post them up but you know, Monty's so fast. Man.

1501
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: They get the ball in his right hand and he

1502
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: give you this.

1503
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: Man, you need to call the catcher and and he'll

1504
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: take off on your ass if you play with him

1505
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: at the rim right.

1506
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: You're so fast and like you know, and BJ, he

1507
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: had a lot going. You know, he shifted in, he

1508
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: could shoot the three.

1509
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: And I mean that team that's actually probably the only

1510
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: team I made the playoffs. And we was on like

1511
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: a spy six seven games losing street Like, I'm like,

1512
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: that's the quote unquote bucks.

1513
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: And six man.

1514
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: People swept us so fast, man got us out of

1515
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: the quick.

1516
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: When you saw that interview the BJ did, Man.

1517
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: I had already called for my cars to get shut.

1518
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what are you talking about.

1519
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 5: Get players together, time to go.

1520
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: Man, it's cold up here too. I know we out

1521
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: of here.

1522
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the comfidence, but man, we just

1523
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: ain't having enough we have. Man, you know how that

1524
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: was brought and wade them down in Miami.

1525
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Like think like you

1526
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: O g Ven you like, okay, I respect what you're

1527
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: trying to do.

1528
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: But I get it. I promise you I do it.

1529
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: But that ain't it Like we ain't got lucky.

1530
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: We get one.

1531
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: But now it was good though. Man, Milwaukee is a

1532
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: good city. It's it's cold as hell. Yeah, I'm saying,

1533
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: I ain't realized Chicago was that coase.

1534
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: Though, right there, forty right down the street.

1535
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I stay over there trying to shop a

1536
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: little bit, but it was so cold, I ain't really

1537
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: come out.

1538
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: It was to that cold years cold out there. What

1539
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: convinced you to be a coach? What convinced you to

1540
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: take the transition to be a coach? Because I didn't

1541
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: see this coming. I'm like, Mark, he's a coach.

1542
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: Like, nah, you know what.

1543
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: Even when we was in Boston, one of our players

1544
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: that we used to run, I actually put that player

1545
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 3: in like run to catch the ball on the elbow,

1546
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: and you know, Pee and Ray sit that down screaming

1547
01:03:59,360 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: each other.

1548
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: We got KG and the bass on the other side.

1549
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: So it's like gonna split game right here, and they

1550
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: gonna pick and feuds like they switched that two man

1551
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: on p We're gonna post.

1552
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: Them up and then you know, we got rare. If

1553
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: they mess up, they're gonna wet you up.

1554
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: But if you make a mistake and you don't look

1555
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: over there, and now you're gonna swinging over here, you know,

1556
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: bring the bass to team.

1557
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: Photos, cash money, and then run over a.

1558
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: Live dribble at the elbow like he can finish with

1559
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: the best end up. It was a good play that

1560
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: would end up going to a lot of doubt.

1561
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: It was funny.

1562
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: I was telling a dog about it, and so we

1563
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: get in. It's keeps put the play in, you know,

1564
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: taking the Oh ship. It became one of one of

1565
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: the players that we ran like on a consistent basis.

1566
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: But coming to coaching college, man, like I said, I

1567
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: was coming around, you know. Bruce Brother was like, man,

1568
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: what you're doing right now. I was like, man, I'm

1569
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: just at home. My wife is coaching at the time.

1570
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm retired. I'm just telling them taking the kids to school,

1571
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: coming home, you know. So I kept coming and you

1572
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: on to coach. I'm like, oh, coach, and it's like,

1573
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta get back in school.

1574
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm like school. So you know, I end up coming

1575
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: back out, end up getting my masters and just being

1576
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: around the game. You don't realize, bro, I.

1577
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 5: Ain't know you got your masters. That's super dope, Bro, that.

1578
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: Man like.

1579
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: To do it though, man Like, but nah, like just

1580
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: being around there, you don't know how much you know

1581
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: about the game until you actually around the guys that

1582
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: don't know the game. The position I'm in, I wish

1583
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: I had somebody that was here when I was a

1584
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: kid in school help me and like trying to guide me.

1585
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: It's like it's a cheat sheet, like, bro, you already

1586
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: got to do this and do this and do that,

1587
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: like you.

1588
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: Know they're playing hard, but it's like, bro, you're.

1589
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: Playing hard, but you wasted too much energy doing all

1590
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: this extra stuff like do this and do that. Then

1591
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: they look at him like you right, Just that's the

1592
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: joy man. Like my wife always told me, she's like,

1593
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: you got you got patience, like you can work with

1594
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: the kids, like.

1595
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: Because I was domer, Yeah I was.

1596
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: I was a hot head. I know everything.

1597
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: Man, man whatever you oh, you don't even tell me

1598
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: like I was them, so I understand how to deal

1599
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: with them.

1600
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: And I think my daughter told me this one time.

1601
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: She was like I was trying to get her to

1602
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: do something.

1603
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: She's like, I don't think you'd be listening to me,

1604
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, you're right, what do you want

1605
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: you know, especially as coaches and parents, you know, were

1606
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: always telling kids what they're do instead of asking them

1607
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: what they were doing. That helped so much when you

1608
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: kind of start incorporating that, now you could put in what.

1609
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: You need them to do with what they want to do.

1610
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: So now it's like, Okay, you want to shoot threes,

1611
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: you don't need to shoot threes.

1612
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you shoot a couple, but I'm gonna

1613
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: actually show you what you need to be doing.

1614
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: So now they actually locked in.

1615
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: These kids have shut down on you, man, and then

1616
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 3: they started talking to you and it's like, I'm just

1617
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: trying to help you.

1618
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they don't know when the help is there

1619
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: for real. You gotta kind of you got to trick

1620
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: them into helping them.

1621
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: It's a parent lie.

1622
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So let me ask you this. So now that

1623
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: you've been doing it, like, are you you fully locked in?

1624
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: Like this is what you want to do? You want

1625
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: to stay in college?

1626
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: Do you want to go you gets the races to

1627
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 4: be a professional coach within the NBA or what you're trying.

1628
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: To do with it? Man?

1629
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: You know, I was leaning a little bit more towards,

1630
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 3: you know, trying to see what I was going to

1631
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: do as far as nbing stuff, and then you know,

1632
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: when my wife passed. So now it's like my son,

1633
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: he still hit in eleventh grade, and so I got

1634
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: to like make sure I could get him through school.

1635
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: And my daughter she here at Autres, so once I

1636
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: kind of get him through in the college wherever he

1637
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: decided to do or whatever, because he still plays baseball too,

1638
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: but he you know, he's playing basketball as well. So

1639
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what he's gonna do. But

1640
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: I gotta also make sure that I'm here with him

1641
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 3: to try to get him through what he needed to

1642
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: do as well. There I kind of decide from there.

1643
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: Word it up. That's dope, man.

1644
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: We need it.

1645
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: We need more of us, like you know what I'm saying,

1646
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: especially like the example you get to say, you get

1647
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: to tell him like I was this, I was that,

1648
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 4: and I'm walking proof it got listen to somebody, bro.

1649
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: So I salute you, bro, because that takes a lot.

1650
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 4: That takes a lot for like you giving your time,

1651
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 4: you showing up, and you you pouring into him. So

1652
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: every time, like whoever, any of us just just giving

1653
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 4: back and doing like that and pouring into the kids.

1654
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 5: Man, I got nothing but love and salute frame.

1655
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: Bro.

1656
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: Just trying some I know it.

1657
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 5: I know it's not easy.

1658
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: Bro.

1659
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you, I respect the hell out of it.

1660
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: It's different. It's different, man, some of the stuff they

1661
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: be doing. He's like, Bro, ain't no way here. You

1662
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: thought that was over? What are you looking at at

1663
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: the end of the day. Then they'll come to the

1664
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: bench and they be crying. He's doing it. I look

1665
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: at it like you done. It's like, Bro, you fire

1666
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: the hell out of that. Man, Bro like all that.

1667
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, so what you talking about? Just being

1668
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: real with them, man, being honest with them and let

1669
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: them know. Like, look, man, such and such one to

1670
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: say this to you. So when you come down here

1671
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: and they do this, don't look crazy, accept it and

1672
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: just get get to the next way.

1673
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 4: And we can't let you get out of here. I

1674
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 4: got I gotta ask you this, right, I gotta ask

1675
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 4: you this. When and how did you come up with

1676
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 4: your game day vibe posts? Because all of them joints

1677
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 4: be funniest all outside.

1678
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 5: I'll be cracking up and then the grill master skits too.

1679
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 4: Man, When you gonna come out with the stand up

1680
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 4: comedy Joe, what you're doing out here?

1681
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: Bro?

1682
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: The g between the grill and the game day posts,

1683
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: I be crying.

1684
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: Got a class a lot for joking and playing around school.

1685
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: So man, the game they post was actually I was like, man,

1686
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 3: I gotta do something different cause I got to try

1687
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: to stay tapped in with the kids.

1688
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: I got social media.

1689
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: I started seeing little funny dance videos. I'm like, man,

1690
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: you know what game day? Yes, I just started doing it.

1691
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: And now to the point of where like everybody like, bro,

1692
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: what video?

1693
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1694
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 3: Videos people actually send them to me now, Like man,

1695
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,879
Speaker 3: I got enough problem for two years a game.

1696
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: Like we do today?

1697
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: We do today.

1698
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: But even with the cooking stuff, I didn't know how

1699
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 3: to cook, Like I could cook some breakfast school. But

1700
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 3: like I said, with my wife passed, I got to

1701
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: learn how to cook now because the kids they hover

1702
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 3: like coming home from school, like they looking like, okay,

1703
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 3: where the food at? Like, so when I started cooking

1704
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: that it ain't really hard.

1705
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: Is just being patient and sit it that And I

1706
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: was like, man, I gotta do a video coming out

1707
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 2: doing it? You know, put me a little red. And

1708
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: I got my you know what's been happen? You know? Yeah,

1709
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: doing those videos. Man, those skins. They trying to get

1710
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: me to what they said, I need to do a

1711
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: cooking show.

1712
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: And it's like, man, you can make money from this,

1713
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: Like bro, I barely know how to work this technology stuff.

1714
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: I can post up and get all this Like no, man,

1715
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: you you can make some money from this. I'm like

1716
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: whatever when you show me how to do it. But man,

1717
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,959
Speaker 3: just and my daughter, she really the one to be hyping.

1718
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: Me up the most of do it. She do her

1719
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: little TikTok dance videos. Come on, dad, let's do this.

1720
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, videos a little dances when they be

1721
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: doing it, he comes through it.

1722
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 3: Fun man, Like I say, Man, you gotta find a

1723
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: way to find some laughter and smile about everything in life.

1724
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: Because man, life on life, and you got you gotta

1725
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: roll with.

1726
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: You, gotta move. I want to Like, ever since I've

1727
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: been knowing you, you always had your best friend with you.

1728
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 4: Uh.

1729
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: I always know she always be there to support you.

1730
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: Like man, she's been through your whole journey and I

1731
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: know she just passed the way rest in peace. But

1732
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: I just want you to just just you know, speak

1733
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: up on her and just what she just always meant

1734
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: for you from the start to the finish, because we

1735
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: touched little points through it. And I know people heard

1736
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned her most, but I just want you to just,

1737
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, just speak on her and what she meant

1738
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: to you and your family and just how great she

1739
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: was because like everybody who came around. I remember when

1740
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: I was down there in Orlando and I was down

1741
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: for your video shoot man to the house, man, she

1742
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,879
Speaker 1: just she just treated us like we was your brothers,

1743
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: like right away, and I always respected that. But I

1744
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: just want you to speak on it yourself.

1745
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1746
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: You know she was, man, she was the rock. She

1747
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: was the anger to you know, everything we had going on. Man,

1748
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't be well mad if it wasn't her.

1749
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: Like even when I was in school, like I was

1750
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: ready to transfer, she was like, naw, you staying.

1751
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: You need to stay, You need to stay. And I'm like, man, nah,

1752
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: these dudes storry.

1753
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 5: She you know you, She like you know you staying.

1754
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: So just without her, man, I wouldn't be well mad,

1755
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, like just the stuff that

1756
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: we shared. And know she played basketball on the women's team.

1757
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm on the men seeming like.

1758
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: You know, she had an apartment so I stayed with her,

1759
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 3: and she helped me, man, in ways that I didn't

1760
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: even know I needed help. Man, Like you know, growing

1761
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 3: up and you know in the city and the hoods,

1762
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: you don't realize, like you see it, but you don't

1763
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: really know, like what somebody really didn't even care for

1764
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: you about, that has your back, that really want to

1765
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: know and that you know, sometimes they say the ridest

1766
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: person on your team is a female, you know, And

1767
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 3: that was true. Like she would do some stuff that

1768
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: helped me out in ways that, like I said, I

1769
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 3: didn't know. And there's been plenty of days man that

1770
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: I just sit back and and I be home. I'm

1771
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 3: just staying at the wall. I don't even know. I

1772
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: ain't cutting no TV on or nothing. I'm just that's

1773
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: a different form of grief and I'm trying to get

1774
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: through it. It's like every day, man, like I wear

1775
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 3: around my neck the st only jew or whether like

1776
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 3: I wear every day. And like, man, just looking at

1777
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: my kids. You know, my son he had a whole face,

1778
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: and my daughter. You know, you know, it's just and

1779
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish it only nobody man like saying, so

1780
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: if y'all got anybody you got a situation where you

1781
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 3: know you're going through somewhere family members or girl, whatever.

1782
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: Man pass it up because at the end of day, man,

1783
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 3: if you ain't got family, you ain't got nothing. Man,

1784
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 3: Like nothing there's money you got, it don't matter. Like

1785
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: those four years of watching her go through cancer. So

1786
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: you know, they tell me you she got three months

1787
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: on a Monday. Then they come back Thursday, and it's

1788
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be a long weekend. You're like, man,

1789
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 3: what like how you go from three months to this?

1790
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: And you know even the last eight hours of like

1791
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: you know, I was holding it. She died in my

1792
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 3: arms and everything, and you know, it's just man, it

1793
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: put me in a situation to where like it takes

1794
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: a whole lot for me to get bothered by anything.

1795
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you appreciate the life and what's going on.

1796
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: And I tell my kids, man, at the end of

1797
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: the day, man, you got to do whatever you gotta

1798
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: do for God to bless you. Because at the end,

1799
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: our ultimate goals to see your mam again. You know, like,

1800
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 3: regardless of what's going on in this world. And it's

1801
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 3: smoking mirrors like anybody outside of this house, and you

1802
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: know they gonna tell you they love you, but we're

1803
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: gonna show you.

1804
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, real talk.

1805
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 3: You got to make sure that, like I say, man,

1806
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: be happy for anybody else things going for them, because

1807
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: it's gonna come back around for you. But man, don't

1808
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: never forget them. Keep holding on to god head and man,

1809
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: just keep trusting it. Like even when you don't understand, Like, man,

1810
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: just ask God to come in and help.

1811
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: You as much as you can. So I try to.

1812
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 3: It's still that spiritual side into them because you go

1813
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,799
Speaker 3: through three stages in life with your spirit.

1814
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1815
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: Earlier on a lot of people were sporced to go

1816
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: to church. When they get in the Middle Ages, they

1817
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: kind of like they ain't going to church no more.

1818
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: And then they get old, it's like, man, I need church.

1819
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm at that age now. It's like I understand that. Man,

1820
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 3: I know I need God because I'm a situation that

1821
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 3: happened with my wife and it's like even at the

1822
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's like, man, you gotta realize

1823
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: you don't control shit.

1824
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but nothing y'all that unit. Man, you know

1825
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: it went for me. You know, I know you and

1826
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: speaking to you. But when you had had the opportunity

1827
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: to be around your family. Every time I think of you,

1828
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: I think of her because y'all was just that one together.

1829
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: You didn't see her without you. You always know that

1830
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: she's in the mix of everything.

1831
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1832
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: And Man, I'm sorry that happened to you. But Man,

1833
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: Man always praying for you and your family. Man, praying

1834
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: for the family. I just wanted you to speak on

1835
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: that so you know people will know. Like when you

1836
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: get somebody that tight and really your best friend, really

1837
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: been through your journey, you got to keep that person real,

1838
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: real close to you.

1839
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: Man. I'm telling you, Man, nothing like home. You can

1840
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: stay outside all you want to, Man, stay home as

1841
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 2: much as you can.

1842
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: Nothing like it. I'm so glad I realized that that's

1843
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 1: where I be at in the house.

1844
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm at seven thirty, Man, I tell them, Man, if

1845
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: I put my feet, make a number forwards over.

1846
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: I want to bed you already know.

1847
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, I definitely appreciate that.

1848
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1849
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, Man, rest us soul. You know.

1850
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: I got a little foundation I do for as far

1851
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 3: as like trying to get back after black students come

1852
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: back to Auburn go to school. I do a little

1853
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 3: called the markets, Dan and Danie's Foundation, somebody Instagram page,

1854
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 3: you know, donations and go to like trying to help

1855
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 3: kids get scholarships and everything.

1856
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 5: So checking them out, six lambow did the I g.

1857
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all man, the uhah, I.

1858
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: Got a couple of more before we get you out

1859
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: of here. Out of all the teammates you done had

1860
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: and you done played without, all the teams you didn't

1861
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: play with. If you had to put four other players

1862
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: to make your ultimate five, who would beat them? Four

1863
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: other players? They got to be in position we just

1864
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: now just however you wanted your team to be like,

1865
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 1: and it don't matter, we're gonna we're going off their prime.

1866
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: So no matter when you played with them, if you

1867
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: had to pick four other players to play with you

1868
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: to make an ultimate five, what would be your ultimate five?

1869
01:16:47,200 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: Ron though, dang, I got kg oh, dirk mm hmm.

1870
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: Kz dirt you rondo huh all of them, and they

1871
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: prime all of them, and they prime anybody who adds

1872
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: a dirt rondo You and who else?

1873
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: Man, Damn, I'm calling the coach.

1874
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: We need you in it. We need were putting it

1875
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: in the in a category.

1876
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: We need you in it, man, all right all right,

1877
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: So if I'm gonna do that, then truth ray that's man,

1878
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.

1879
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: Like I didn't play with shaq.

1880
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about theezel man.

1881
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: All Right, we got KZ, got dirt, got run though,

1882
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go true.

1883
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: That's three top seventy five.

1884
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to play fast.

1885
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good group right there. The hell of

1886
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: a five right there, five right there.

1887
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: To think about that with the game, Damn, that's tough.

1888
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: You're doing to play for all of them play basketball.

1889
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: What you think about the w n b A and

1890
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: how the women is moving the game forward and you

1891
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: know she get an opportunity to play in that league.

1892
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 1: But just seeing where.

1893
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 3: It's going now, Man, I love it. Man, I probably

1894
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 3: watch more girls basketball than anything. Like, I love man Like,

1895
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: these young women are so talented, bru it's crazy. Like, man,

1896
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 3: here the other day she jumped up grab the rim.

1897
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking like the hell going on? Like revolution of

1898
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: the game, man.

1899
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: Like they want to work out with the boys, like

1900
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: they want to do the boys moves. They don't want

1901
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: to be punk.

1902
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: Then they want to get Yeah, they want to show

1903
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 3: you they got that burking bag too.

1904
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: They want to get that bad kids. Man.

1905
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 3: They's some skilled kids like him, man, that can really

1906
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: play this game.

1907
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: That you know.

1908
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: They just the thing about girls, man, once you show

1909
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: them you love them, man, they will play so hard

1910
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: for you, like with the boys, like.

1911
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: Man, you got to pad them on the bag you

1912
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: got of you. You know what I'm saying. Period. Yeah, girls, man,

1913
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 2: they gonna play hard and like they really love the game. Man.

1914
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: They all play as if they are undrafted highest plaid players.

1915
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: They still feel like they got points to prove, like

1916
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: they placed.

1917
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: Man. I love watching them play. Man.

1918
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: This the evolution, you know, the Kaitlin Clark and Reeves

1919
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 3: and getting they staged in the game. It's like, man,

1920
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 3: don't hate them, man, except what they got going on

1921
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: and appreciate it.

1922
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: Man. And I said one point it was it wasn't

1923
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: that so donna get better.

1924
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: It was just like with the NBA, man, like at

1925
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 3: one point we wasn't getting what these guys is getting now,

1926
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 3: like so you just got to appreciate it.

1927
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: And you know how man, they sorry they couldn't play

1928
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: back there.

1929
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 3: Man, These girls, man, they'll cook some dudes like some

1930
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 3: could go watching the girl from Dallas a riqueque.

1931
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: Ain't you get busy?

1932
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: Get a bucket? Jewel lord? She get a budget? Like yeah,

1933
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 2: girl can who's stewy?

1934
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 3: Man? Man, Man, listen, I'm telling I be locked in

1935
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: even sometimes when I'm playing two K home, I'm like,

1936
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 3: We're gonna play.

1937
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: With girls to night.

1938
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll be locked into women, man, and women

1939
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: do their thing. Man, they put it down some.

1940
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: Young girls, that's coming man, Like what y yeah a man?

1941
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: Girls go to the lead earlier. That's one thing I

1942
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: wish they douse.

1943
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because sometimes, man, you be

1944
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: so talented at a young age, like Juju could be

1945
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: in the lead right now.

1946
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, top pick, right now, top pick.

1947
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1948
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: So God forbid something happen to them, but you know

1949
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: they stay healthy, could get to that point.

1950
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: But man, them girls talent. I feel like they're talented

1951
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: enough to get there. Man. You already say they mature

1952
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: more crooked than boys anyway, So why not what you

1953
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: hold them?

1954
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: They definitely need at least cut it down another year.

1955
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: Let them leave after they sophomore year. If they want

1956
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: to go, what they got to stay four years? Like

1957
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: I think three, they got to say three, right, three.

1958
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I know they some of them

1959
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: need to be going out like man, little girl, Man,

1960
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: it's only it's only en hands in the game.

1961
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: Man, that's it.

1962
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: One more question for you man.

1963
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1964
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: One of the times I spent down there, you know,

1965
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity to be at one of your

1966
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: video shoots when the last time my boy then dropped

1967
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: the verse.

1968
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: My daughter made me get in there and rap on

1969
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: the song with her, like okay, one on one. So

1970
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: like she just got another song called her that it's

1971
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: really hard, like she'd be doing her things. It's Helene

1972
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: her name rod too, crucier song called her.

1973
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: But man, I still mess around every now and then,

1974
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: like I get in there and.

1975
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 3: Even with the rapping thing right, like we got some

1976
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: dudes in the lead right now that can really rap. Yeah, rap,

1977
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: but I know how to make a good song, like

1978
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: it's gonna be you're gonna you're gonna think.

1979
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: About it here you Yeah. Like for example, man, I

1980
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: think is a dope and she can go.

1981
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: I think she's amazing, very talent.

1982
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 2: The only thing about this is like she makes the

1983
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 2: music that you probably ain't gonna hear in the club nowhere.

1984
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And it's not a knock

1985
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 2: against hert it's almost like Eminem Eminem a dope ass.

1986
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: Artist, but you ain't playing in the club like and

1987
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: so like that was my.

1988
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 3: Whole mindset, Like, Okay, you can rap and put all

1989
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: these dope words together, but man, we live in the area.

1990
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: Man, I'm about one here.

1991
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they they want to they want to bop

1992
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: to it. You know, they want to bop to it.

1993
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 3: Man, you gotta dumb it down, and you know them

1994
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 3: artists stop doing what they doing. But it's just it's

1995
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 3: depends on what you're looking for, like what you trying

1996
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 3: to get. Ye, Like I said, music is dope at hell,

1997
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: and it's like a ship. Miles Bridges, he makes some

1998
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 3: dope music, making that bop music. Man Stevenson, he can go.

1999
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: I see him starting to go to nice little freestyle

2000
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: out there.

2001
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: Go in the league. Man.

2002
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: But it's just and it's hard because when you you're playing,

2003
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: the first thing you're gonna hear is are you trying

2004
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 3: to rap?

2005
01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: You already got money.

2006
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 1: But you know back in that they they didn't encourage

2007
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: it or you look you look, you was frowned upon

2008
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: to do something like that, and all that I'm loving

2009
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: like this era, like they just let them be free

2010
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: and just do their thing outside of Man, they were

2011
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: telling us just focus on basketball, and like I said,

2012
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: you got frowned upon if you tried to rap or

2013
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: do anything outside of playing basketball. They just put you

2014
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: in that one box. But now you know, we paved

2015
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: the ways for these kids to be in a bunch

2016
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: of different boxes for them to enjoy.

2017
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: No question.

2018
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: You know that that culture that was it to shut

2019
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: down culture or whatever it is. They try to shut

2020
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: you down if you say certain things. I was just

2021
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: telling somebody that the other day. I said, Man, comedians

2022
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: like Richard pryding them. Man, they want have made it

2023
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 3: right if they were saying they're doing like But it's

2024
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: just like you said, it's good that they allow these

2025
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: kids to come out here and express themselves and do

2026
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: what they want to do it. I mean, I'm glad

2027
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: these bigger shorts coming back, Trey Man, keep keep doing it, bro,

2028
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 3: because man, the shorts they playing, it ain't no way

2029
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, I can't.

2030
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: Get out here many already small bro, what you're doing.

2031
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: Already rocking skinny jeans. Now you're gonna do the shorts

2032
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: like that?

2033
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Man, That's why they called me.

2034
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Come on.

2035
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I got those clothes for

2036
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: a second. We all now, we all.

2037
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: Uncle, O g now you you're the oldest O.

2038
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: G all right?

2039
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Oh g Q oh g Q.

2040
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 2: You like that he called me that? Man, don't even

2041
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: call me dad. They'd be like, oh, gem, I take it,

2042
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: I take it, I take it all right.

2043
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: Man.

2044
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 4: We appreciate the homie man, Orlando's fine, the city beautiful?

2045
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Fine?

2046
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: Is that auburn ward damn eagle in the building, man,

2047
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 4: Keith Daniels. We appreciate you, bro pulling up on the homies.

2048
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: Man, No retrospect, man, you already know I've been what

2049
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: y'all says. You know what I mean? I already know,

2050
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: Like for real, I'm talking about with the two headbands.

2051
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: All right.

2052
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,000
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