1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Check it up, check it up. In the sixties, the 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: average GM starter circuit was pretty straightforward and simple. In 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: a Chevrolet Traverse has well more than just a few components. 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: That car Doctor the older vehicles. If we want to 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: keep them running and we want to use the best 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: quality parts, either stockpile parts now or start repairing things 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: now so you get another five to eight to ten 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: years out of it. We'll figure out what we're gonna 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: drive in the year two and kind of take it 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: from there. Makes sense. Welcome to the radio home of 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Ron and Ainian the Car Doctor, since this is where 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: at eight five five and now he is running. I 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: think I have a way that we can give away 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: our Mustang book this week, Tom, and we're gonna make 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: it a technical question. And I just thought of it 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: listening to the open, because the way you did the open, 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: you left out the second line, the second verse, and 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's all about here those dual quads wail, 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: we'll have to come up with a car question. Well, no, 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's the question. Somebody needs to tell us what 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: dual quads are, all right, and what the beach boys 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: are singing about in that song. Let's see what kind 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: of descriptions we get. Maybe we'll do that this, let's 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: do that this hour, this hour, next hour, whatever. Um, 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: but that's we got the complete Book of Ford Mustang 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: by Mike Mueller, Uh, sixty four and a half to 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: present to give away. And uh, let's see, can anybody 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: tell us what dual quads are? And no looking it up, 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: no cheating using the Google machine. So we just want 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: your honest opinion what dual quads are. And if it's 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: a sincere explanation, I'll be the judge and let Tom 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: award you the book. So anyway, UM, I really wanted 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: to open the show with it, and that's really spurred 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: the moment at the top of my head. That's where 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: that came from. I wanted to talk about theft by 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: auto repair and you know, I want to tell you 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: what's wrong with my industry and it's not everybody, And 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: you know there's stevere and all industries. Uh. You know, 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: we could sit here and you know, talk about any 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: industry where it involves people, I think, But I want 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to tell you about theft by auto repair. Something I 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: actually saw this week in the shop. Somebody had brought 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: us their car. Jerry showed up. Jerry showed up with 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: his Toyota Tundra seventeen, super fancy, super duper pickup truck. 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: And and I've worked for Jerry before. Jerry's Jerry's a 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: regular in a sense. You know, I haven't seen him 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: in a while because he's purchased some new vehicles and 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: they've been under warranty. And he's lives a little bit 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: far away. He's about an hour and a half away. 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: And you know, the relationship begins a new right. That's 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: one of the great things about auto repair that it 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: just it just continues and evolves. Jerry brought me his truck. 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Jerry's a blue collar guy. He's a 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: really old simple guy in the sense that he just 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: wants what he wants, he wants what he's entitled to 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: and just wants to drive it. He's not looking to 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: beat anybody. He's just straight arrow. He brought me this tundra. 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: On the conversation point that it drifts to the left. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Brot me a very nice little note, um, you know 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: about how the steering wheels off by two degrees, the 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: truck drifts to the left, and several of the things 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: that he was concerned about, and you know, could I 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: resolve it for him? I read through everything I I 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: and there was a lot to read through. I actually 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: reached out to some contacts at Toyota. They sent me 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: over the equivalent of nine pages of paperwork of conversations 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Toyota has had with Jerry, because he's been to a 72 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: couple of dealers, he's been to a couple of private, 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: independent shops down where he lives, and nobody could seem 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: to come to any conclusion or give him any answers. 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: One of the things Jerry had was an alignment print 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: out because everybody was doing alignments. And let me state 77 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: this publicly, and you know, you can start the argument 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: with me if you want, But for a vehicle to 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: be out of alignment to the point that it's causing 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: a drift, it's way out of alignment. I mean, something 81 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: is severely cock eyed. All right. We've got issues in 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: in several of the key alignment angles, and it's gonna 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: be real obvious, and you're gonna fix it once and 84 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: the problem is gonna go away. But the problem I 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: had with the way Jerry was being repaired, or his 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: vehicle was being repaired, was they were showing him the 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: alignment and showing him the before and the after, and 88 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out. Some of the dates were February 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: of of of this year. In February one of this year, 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the alignment was out and it was supposedly corrected, and 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: then two weeks later, because the poll was still happening, 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the alignment was out again, and then it was corrected, 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: and and Jerry kept paying for align mints. They were 94 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: blaming potholes and you know, things that Jerry was hitting 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and curbs, and you know, maybe taking some artistic license there, 96 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: But that was my interpretation of the conversation I had 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: with Jerry. And this has been going on for a while. 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: This actually started almost a year ago, and you know, 99 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: the same thing. There were situations where back last spring, 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: the vehicle was presented for alignment, everything's in the red, 101 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: and then everything goes in the green, and then a 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, everything's in the red and everything 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: is back in the green, or you know, certain angles 104 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: were red and then they go green. And you've all 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: seen those alignment print outs, right, hopefully you know listen, 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: you're you're you're having your vehicle aligned. You're you're getting 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: a print out. Hopefully you've learned that from me by 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: now that you want to see. You want to see printing, 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: you want to see test results. It's important. It cuts 110 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: down on the nonsense factor, all right. You know they've 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: got a documented documenting things. Is always good. It's good 112 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with people. It's good when you're dealing 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: with cars. It's good when you're dealing with lawyer. Uh, 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, you get the idea. And I'm looking at 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Jerry's alignment print outs and I'm trying to and I'm 116 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: looking at I'm saying, how can this truck get four 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: alignments in a year? How can the alignments be done 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: in sets where it's out, it's in, it's out, it's in, 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: and then eight months goes by and then it's out, 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: it's in, it's out, it's in. It doesn't make any 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: sense to me. And I'm reading the reports and I'm 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: looking at the reports, and I'm noticing that in most 123 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: of the alignment print outs, toe toe is if you 124 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: stand up and look down at your feet, and your 125 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: feet are pointed straight ahead, toe is zero. All right. 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: If you kick both of your feet out a quarter 127 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: of an inch, you've got a half inch of total toe, 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: all right, If you kick him in a quarter inch, 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: you've got and so on. All right, you're looking at 130 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: toe measurement. Which way are your feet pointed? Which where 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: are the tires pointed? Now, when you look at an 132 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: alignment report, it will show you toe and then total 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: toe relation to the center line, and then total toe 134 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: between the angles between the tires. And what I noticed 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: was on Jerry's car, And I guess it's easy to do. 136 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think like a thief, so 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. It took me a while to 138 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: figure this out. But when they're driving over the drive 139 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: on alignment racker, when it's set up on the alignment rack, 140 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: if the steering wheel isn't straight when they pull on 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: it and it captures that initial image, it shows toe 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: in the red. But if you look at the total 143 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: toe measurement, which is in the center of the report. 144 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: Usually it's green. Nobody explained that to Jerry. I said, Jerry, look, 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: I said, total toe is off. And it wasn't awful lot, 146 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: all right. It was a quarter of a degree in 147 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: some cases, but it was enough that it was beyond 148 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the specification that the machine is looking for. It flags 149 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: it in red. But I said, Jerry, look at total toe. 150 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: The total toe measurement comes out in green because the 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: distance between the tires and in their relation to each 152 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: other is within specification. He was shocked. I was a 153 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: little shocked too. I never caught that I learned something 154 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: this week. I learned how to be a thief. Uh 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: you know. They kept selling them alignments and kept charging him. Now, 156 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: the tragedy, okay, if there is a tragedy here, and 157 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: there is the tragedy is the vehicle doesn't have a problem. 158 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: And I explained that to Jerry. I said, Jerry, you know, listen, 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: nothing against you, um, but you know I'm gonna tell 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: it to you like I see it. I drove this, 161 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Danny drove this. I went around the corner to a 162 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: a buddy shop, and I didn't say anything to anybody. 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: I grabbed one of his mechanics that I've got a 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: personal relationship with, and I said, come on, let's go 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: for a ride. We went for a ride. He drove it, 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and at the end he said, what am I looking for? 167 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I said, exactly, there's there's. We just didn't have the experience. 168 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: We didn't get the drift to the left, and yet 169 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Jerry said, as it's there, or it had been there prior. 170 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: We did rotate tires, we did balance the two fronts. 171 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: We balanced them again, because at seventy miles an hour, 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of a pulsation, which I 173 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: believe is the tires themselves. And I explained that Jerry 174 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: what I wanted him to do in terms of swapping 175 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: out tires if he's interested and he wants to go 176 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: forward with this vehicle, um bottom line, point blank. I 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: told Jerry, I think he brought the wrong vehicle. I 178 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: don't think he's happy with this truck, and it's just 179 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: manifesting itself into something else. And once in a while 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: we do that, right, We we have buyer's remorrison. We're 181 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: not sure what to do with it at that point, 182 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: and somebody's gotta tell you. Listen, somebody's gotta be the 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: bearer of bad news, just like I was the bearer 184 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: of the bad news about Jerry. You're paying for alignments 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: you don't need. The next time you get an alignment, 186 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: the next time you get anything done, the next time 187 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: your mechanic does something and he's new to you when 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: he's not your regular person, or you're starting that relationship question. 189 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Things you know, look at it, explain what tow is um. 190 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: I think explanation of the counter was very, very important. 191 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: I had Alexis this past week and oh four Alexis 192 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: that had a dead battery issue. The battery was going dead, 193 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and it was an older It was an older mom 194 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: and her daughter that dropped it off. And a couple 195 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: of years back, they had an aftermarket radio and backup 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: camera installed in the dash board of the S three 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: fifty Alexis. And I couldn't get the answers square if 198 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: it's been ever since or it only started recently, And 199 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: frankly I didn't. I didn't don't care because I'll still 200 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: fix the car. And I went through my usual explanations 201 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: of what we're gonna do and why, and I could 202 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: see that you know, you can just tell when you're 203 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: explaining to somebody, Hey, here's how we're gonna fix the car, 204 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: or here's how it could be a it could be 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: a meal in a restaurant they've never been to. Here's 206 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: how we're gonna prepare the meal. They're just not believers. 207 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: They haven't They've got doubt in the back of their mind. 208 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: You know, the human psyche is the hardest thing to 209 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: get over, especially when you're fixing somebody's car for the 210 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: first time. And I explained the charges, what the charges 211 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: were gonna be, and I itemized everything, and they signed 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: off on it, and they left me in the car 213 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: for a week. My first problem with that particular car 214 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: was the battery was stone dead and it took better 215 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: than three hours to revitalize it, to desulfate it, to 216 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: charge it up, to get it back to level. And 217 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, the concern there is, is it a defective battery. 218 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Battery came out of Triple A. I'm not a fan 219 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: of Triple A batteries, you guys know this. I've got 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: my reasons. And I questioned some of these Triple A 221 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: batteries where they come from, what their longevity is on 222 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: the shelf, and how long they've been sitting, and that's 223 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: a different conversation. But I finally got the battery back 224 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to a level where it would pass. And you know, 225 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: we're using state of the art equipment, right associated test 226 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: equipment out of St. Louis, and we're using their chargers 227 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: and their testers, and their stuff is right on the 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: money and always has been, and so I have no 229 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: doubt about the test procedures, the charging procedures. And then 230 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: I went about my drug test, and the draw test 231 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: concluded that there was a draw. And when I die 232 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: knows it down by fuse, I found that the radio 233 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: was the cause of the draw. Disconnected the radio, the 234 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: draw went away, connected the radio, the draw came back, 235 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: disconnected the radio. Let the vehicle sit for almost seven days. 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: The car started right up. They showed up yesterday to 237 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: pick up the car. I explained everything. I showed it 238 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: in detail. I showed the test results. I broke out 239 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the wiring diagram, and I put it into as as Cathy, 240 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: the office help and the researcher, has always said to me, 241 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I put it in common everyday language at a level 242 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: they could understand. She's listening on the conversations more than once, 243 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, you know you do that all 244 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: the time. I didn't charge them for the repair yet 245 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: take the car. Let's let me convince you this car 246 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: is fixed. Take the car, keep it for two weeks. 247 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Call me in two weeks, tell me it's fixed, tell 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: me it started. And you know what, sometimes I think 249 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: you have to do that in order repair. I think 250 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: that's part of the mission. I don't think the mission 251 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: is to do it incorrect alignment and cheat somebody. That's 252 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: not what order repair is about. So the next time 253 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: you're going to talk to your mechanic, they talk back, 254 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: Do they explain things? Do they show your report and 255 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: explain the report? The rest is up to you. Eight 256 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'm running anading the car doctor. I'll be back. 257 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: We're right after this vehicle not taking you where you 258 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: want to go. Well call Ron, he's the expert at 259 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: making your vehicle take you where you needed. Eight five 260 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero And now back to rot Hey, 261 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: let's get over to Anna in Iowa, who has the 262 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: answer to the dual quad question. And welcome to the 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: car doctor. Anna. Hello, Hello, how are you good? Yeah? 264 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what the dual quads are? Yes? Too? 265 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Four barrel carburetors. Wow, how do you know that? Answer? 266 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity? Did you did you used to 267 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: drive a car? Yeah, that's so husbands are good for that. 268 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Uh did he have a car with dual quads? Um? No, No, 269 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: but his brother had one with trypower? All right? Does 270 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: your does your husband know what we used to call that? 271 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: What trypower was often referred to as besides trypower? Just 272 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: out of curiosity, I don't know? Three twos right? Oh 273 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: back in the day, Well, anna, you know what we're 274 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna be sending you out a copy of the Complete 275 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: Book of Ford Mustang by Mike Muller sixty four and 276 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: a half to present. Did you ever own a Mustang? 277 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: And you're in your driving career? Did your husband cougar cougars? 278 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: And now maybe they'll write a book about cougars one day? 279 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: What your cougar did you have with the with the 280 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: tail lights that went off sequentially when you made the 281 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: directional don't you remember that that was a big deal 282 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: in sixty nine? A sixty nine cougar if you made 283 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: a lift or right turn to do? Oh? Yeah, the car? 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: You still have the car? What engines in it? And speed? 285 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Really convertible really what color you brought it? New white? 286 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: You bought it now ten years old? You brought it 287 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: when it was ten years old. Okay, Anna, you're a riot. 288 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for so much for calling. Stay on the line. 289 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Tom is gonna get your information. We're gonna send you 290 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: out a copy of the Complete Book of Ford Mustang 291 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: by Mike Muller. You and your husband enjoy it and 292 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: relive the glory days of one of America's favorite pony 293 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: cars and muscle cars back when. Um yeah, I mean 294 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: that's just you know, and then we went from that, right, 295 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: dual quads and ray two's and try powers. Did anybody 296 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: see the article um out of San Francisco two weeks 297 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: ago that General Motors got General Motors has got some 298 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: self driving cars operating in San Francisco giving rides to 299 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: employees around city and and so forth. They're just they're 300 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: just wired. They're just driverless vehicles. Uh. They had a 301 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: driverless vehicle pulled over by the police, and unfortunately the 302 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: cops were a little shocked. They've got a tough enough 303 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: job and now they don't know what to do. And 304 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: now they've got a car with nobody in it. And 305 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: the car started to take off on them and they 306 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: had to chase it down again and get it to 307 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: pull over. I wonder how they pulled it over in 308 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the first place, Right, who do you waive? Who do 309 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: you wave at? That's a really good question. I wonder 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: if anybody has the answer to that. But who do 311 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: you waive at to get the car to pull over? 312 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: You know? How do you get the car to pull over? 313 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: I never really thought about it until I was reading 314 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: this article that they they had issues with pulling this 315 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: vehicle over and getting at the stop and stay stopped 316 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: once they got it pulled over and kept trying to 317 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: take off on it. So, um, there's a lot of 318 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: changes coming, folks. Uh, no more will quads? No more? Um, 319 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: no more three two as it'll be a very different world. 320 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Uh as far as automobiles are concerned. So, um, everyboy's 321 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: got the answer to that. Maybe they could give us 322 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: a call. I'd really like to know him if there 323 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: any police officers out there today or at some point, 324 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I sure like to know what do you do with 325 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: a driverless vehicle? How do you pull it over? How 326 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: do you get its attention? Um? You know, it's it's 327 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: got to be my understanding is that if I call 328 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: for a driverless vehicle, it's gonna come to the address 329 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and stop. I can't stop at midpoint? Or do I 330 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: stand out in front of it, um and and and 331 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: get at the stop? You just you just kind of wonder. 332 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: So just uh, if anybody's got that answer, I'll be 333 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: looking for it. Just what do you do with a 334 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: driverless vehicle? How do you get at the stop if 335 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: it's not coming to your address? Eight five five zero 336 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero the phone number. I'll do that again. 337 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero zero the car 338 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: doctor seven phone number. Give us a call. I'll return 339 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back Ron named 340 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: the car doctor here at eight zero. Let's go over 341 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: to Sam and p A. Sam, I have I owe 342 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: you an apology or I owe you an explanation. I 343 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: saw your email in my spam folder Thursday this past week, 344 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: and I said, geez, I wondered what had happened to this. 345 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: I was cleaning out the spam and there you were. 346 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: So it's been two weeks that I owe you an 347 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: email and I didn't give it to you. My apologies. 348 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: What ended up fixing this car? No apologies necessary. I'm 349 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: not exactly sure what fixed it, but what I did, Sam? 350 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: I think we lost Sam. What happened? Look at that? 351 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: There you go technology. I'm not sure what took that out. 352 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: Let me let me work on this one, Sam. Are 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: you there? No, let me work out? Oh there he is, Sam, 354 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: You're there like that a momentary glitch, sun spots. So 355 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: we heard everything right up until I'm not sure what happened, 356 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: and then boom, you were gone. So I'll start over. Well, 357 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: I actually put a new new receiver in desk and 358 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: dryer in you know, one of the four O E 359 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: M things, and uh, I cut the old one open 360 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: and everything seemed fine. Everything was inside, boost upper and 361 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: lower material, filters were there, the plastic was there. Everything 362 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: was there. So what I did is I took some 363 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: stuff we use at work. It's called r X eleven 364 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: flush and actually disconnected to condense or disconnect evaporator and 365 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: ran this stuff through and put it put a cloth 366 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: or paper, you know, it's pretty decent paper talent in 367 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: front of it to catch anything that might come out 368 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: that might have been in there. And I get to 369 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: it flowing, both of them. So but hey, whatever, So 370 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I put everything back together. Put on a vacuum pump, 371 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: will actually put a pressure test on a first put 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: on a vacuum pump. I don't know, probably an hour 373 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: and a half got it down about three hundred microns 374 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: through the juice tour, and yeah, I have I don't know. 375 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you don't see the problem. We had an 376 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: explorer in this week that needed breaks. We did rear brakes, pads, rotors, calipers, 377 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: and we went to bleed it out and we couldn't 378 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: get the right rear to bleed out. So I cracked 379 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: it at the caliper and it didn't want to bleed out, 380 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: and I cracked it at the hose and fluid came 381 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: pouring out. I said, I've got a bad hose. Put 382 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: a hose on it. Now I had fluid coming out 383 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: the hose, but at the bottom where it would go 384 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: to the caliper. But still no fluid out the new caliper. 385 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: What is new? What does new stand for? Right? Never? Ever? Um, 386 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: don't say that to Facebook. They'll they'll they'll ban you 387 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: for two weeks. Um, that's not Fabok, We've I've gotten 388 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: more and more off a Facebook lately. It's just it's 389 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: just horrible. But put it, put another new caliper on. 390 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: It's fixed. I was really tempted to open that caliper up, 391 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: but I would avoided the warranty and how to pay 392 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: for it. I wasn't that curious. But yeah, you know, 393 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: sometimes you just don't see the problem or understand how 394 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: it can occur. I don't see how a caliper can 395 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: block fluid. It would just come out and a trickle. 396 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: Uh you know it's fluid and fluid out. So you 397 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: know what, it's fixed. You followed your intuition, and you 398 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: know there's one that you know you just won't see 399 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: it in the books. You were logical in your approach, 400 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 1: and uh you repaired it. So um, I appreciate your 401 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: kicking your you know, like I do this for a living, 402 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: a bigger machine and this is so small and like 403 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: that really in my wheelhouse to hey, you know, like 404 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: you said earlier, it's broken. It can't be broken again. 405 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: It can't be broken again. Air conditioning is air conditioning. 406 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: The Prince Bull is the same regardless. It's you know, 407 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: and you just you know, how does it work. It's 408 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: it's like I tell everybody, you know what you want 409 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: to understand how an electrical circuit works. Go to the 410 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: wall switch in your house, turn it on, turn it off. 411 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: Where's the power coming from, where's the ground leg, where's 412 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: the load? Same thing now transferred to a car, It's 413 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the same thing. So you know that just that just 414 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: means you're really smart. So because you can take something 415 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and transcend it into a different aspect of life. So 416 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: good for you, little leg and kicking the tail. You 417 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: know that's okay. So listen, Sam, I'm here if you 418 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: ever need it. And uh, you know what, we appreciate 419 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: having guys like you and everybody else out there listening 420 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: to us. You have a great day, are you too, sir? 421 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, You're very welcome. Bye bye. Um. I must 422 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: have really hit a nerve with the conversation about the 423 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: thirty oil change it um uh, it's it's actually up 424 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: there on Facebook that Maria wrote in. She said, Ron, 425 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: there's an advertisement in my local newspaper turning in any 426 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: for an oil change. And she recognizes the fact. She says, 427 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: I can't even buy the oil and filter and do 428 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: it for that price. So I wrote back, I said, 429 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: and you have to our Marie. I'm sorry, Marie, you 430 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what corner are they cutting, what 431 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: part of taking proper care they're compromising to do it 432 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: for that price, and how much of an upsell are 433 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: they doing to make it worthwhile for them. So my 434 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: suggestion was, and now you know, I think we should 435 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: all do this, even though you have to watch because 436 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: some of the twentil change places say up to a 437 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: certain amount of quarts of oil. But if they don't, 438 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: let's take him a new corvette. I think new corvettes, 439 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: they are they eleven or sixteen quarts of oil or 440 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: so it's some crazy number. Let's just take them the 441 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: most exotic thing we can and say, hey, change the 442 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: oil on this for and they can't do it. So Um, 443 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: evidently the twentil change comment has really got everybody talking. 444 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Uh so just um, just just be mindful of what 445 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: you got going on. Jeez, I don't know what do 446 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: we want to do next. I've got more here, he's 447 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: got it. I got an email from Maury. I've got 448 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: a Mitchell one Shure track fix. I want to talk 449 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: about Cummings as an art well, about the combustion engine 450 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: that could run any fuel. Um, there's an awful lot 451 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: going on. I'll tell you what. We've got the phones 452 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: backed up, I've got lay pull over and take a 453 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: pause and do that, and then we'll come back and 454 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: we'll kick off the next segment. I'm Ronny in the 455 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor at eight five five five zero nine zero zero. 456 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back, 457 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: ron Name the car Doctor here at five five zero zero. 458 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Let's get on over to Sean in Maine with a 459 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: fifteen gmc savannah. Sean, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 460 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. 461 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: I got a two thousand, fifteen gmc savannah, and I 462 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: get a bit of a bit of noise in the morning, 463 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: in particular when I started out, And my biggest worry 464 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: is a hundred and ten I was a mile. Should 465 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: I be changing that belt as well as any idol 466 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: of Pulley or whatever. Well, you know that if the 467 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: noise is from that, well let me let me answer 468 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: the question this way. If it's the original belt, in 469 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: my mind, it's due all right. The belts do last longer. 470 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: The rubber today is very different than what it was 471 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: ten and fifteen years ago. We don't look at the 472 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: belts for cracking anymore. We actually can measure There are 473 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: gauges out there that we can use that a repair 474 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: shop could use to measure how much the belt has 475 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: warned wears like a tire. Now it's a completely different, 476 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: greater level of rubber. But at seven years old, going 477 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: on eight years old, all those all those main winters, 478 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, that's going to have some effect on the 479 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: longevity of the belt. And I think it's probably a 480 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: good safe idea to replace it. And while it's while 481 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: it's off spin the pulleys, listen, does anything sound dry 482 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: tension or I'd learned so on? Is that your noise? 483 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: That's that's the second question, al right, because I can 484 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: recommend maintenance to you, but will that's solve your problem? 485 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: So what I would like to see you do is 486 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: and I'm very cautious about what I will spray on 487 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: a belt. Belt noise if it's truly belt noise happens 488 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: for uh, you know a few reasons. Okay, it could 489 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: be that the belt is drying up. It doesn't have 490 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: that um the word I always like to think about 491 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: is lubricity. It doesn't have that that softness or that suppleness. 492 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: To it anymore. It's just getting hard, like a rock 493 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: or something is contaminating the belt. Something has leaked onto 494 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: the belt, and it's making the belt surface gummy or noisy. 495 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Belts are very susceptible to incorrect fluid on there. Or 496 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: Heaven forbid, you sprayed some kind of belt dressing on 497 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: trying to solve the problem, and now you've made it worse. 498 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: All right. So the only thing I like to spray 499 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: on a belt, and I don't do a lot of it, 500 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: is I'll get a little atomizer bottle, you know, a 501 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: little fush push, just a little, you know, hand spray bottle, 502 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: and I'll fill it with tap water. And when I 503 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: catch the vehicle in the act it's making that noise, 504 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: I'll put a little water on it. Just spray it 505 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: right on the belt. Does the noise change, pitch go away, 506 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: and so on. If it does, then I know it's 507 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: the belt. If it doesn't, I've got a problem somewhere else, 508 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: and I'll go looking for that. Now. Obviously, you've got 509 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: to be careful. You've got to gain access to the belt. 510 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: You gotta keep your hand away from the fan um. 511 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to spray water on the 512 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: belt while the fan is spinning and blowing the water 513 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: back in your face. So it's kind of an exciting time. 514 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: You haven't taken a shower that day, You're gonna get 515 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: one if you're not careful. Um, you know, you could 516 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: try shutting it off. If it's making noise, shut it off, 517 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: spray the water on the belt, try not to get 518 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: it anywhere else so that you're exact, you know, try 519 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: to put it in more of a solid stream and 520 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: then started up and sometimes that works too. But you know, yeah, 521 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta look at it. Why is it there? 522 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: It didn't do it when it was new. And if 523 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: the noise isn't belt related, all right, then you know 524 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: you've got to go looking for that source. Do you 525 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: have a water pump starting to fail? Do you have 526 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: a different pulley that's starting to fill l But you know, 527 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: now is a good time. Hundred and five thousand miles, 528 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: that truck is young. That truck will go another five 529 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: five to seven years easy with proper care and maintenance. Yeah, 530 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: that's that's my plan. Um. Yeah, another question, not having 531 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: to do exactly with this, but vehicles that have automatic 532 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: transmissions and don't have the dipstick. Is there a warning 533 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: light typically if you were to go low on transmission fluid? 534 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: Not on most vehicles, and I'm aware of some of 535 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: the higher end stuff General Motors does not. The warning 536 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: is when the truck stops. Great system, right, so you 537 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: know it's it's and you know, let me let me 538 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: say here and now let me let me let me, 539 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, bring the conversation to a point here. As 540 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: far as you know what I change transmission fluid, I 541 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: would have changed the transmission fluid on that at sixty 542 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: That is gonna be a that's gonna be a deck 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: six vehicle. The the brand name for fluid that GM 544 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: wants you to use, it's a it's a semisynthetic or synthetic, 545 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: depending one whose book you want to read, UH type 546 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: of trans fluid. You know what I think changing trans 547 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: fluid on a regular basis for a vehicle you're planning 548 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: to keep is still the best way to ensure you 549 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: don't have to put a trans into it early on. 550 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: UM and I say that, here's a guy. As I've 551 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: said before in the past couple of shows. You know 552 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: my old four suburban fifty five thousand, miles. Puked the 553 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: trans at fifty five thousand miles and I changed the 554 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: trans fluid at thirty and I was about to change 555 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: it at sixty. Um. I think that was a case 556 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: of just something mechanical was on its way and nothing 557 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I would do or was gonna do, would correct it. 558 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: But I think the odds, you know, the the you 559 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: change trans fluid, it puts the odds in your favor 560 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: of it puts the odds in your favor of longevity 561 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: for that vehicle. And I think that's what you want 562 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: to do, um, from a long term point of view. 563 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: So UM, just my perspective, appreciate the call shown. You'll 564 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: be well, let's go over to Jonathan and Mississippi and 565 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: see what's going on here. A fifty two was at 566 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: a Ford V eight Jonathan. Yeah, my friend has a 567 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: with the flathead V eight pretty much stock. We were 568 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: changing the oil a few days ago and we noticed 569 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: after we took the drain plug out and everything drained 570 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: out of the pan, when we moved the filter there, 571 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: it was still half full of oil in the housing. 572 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Is that normal? I can't say I've changed oil in 573 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: a fifty for it anytime soon. Were you draining the 574 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: canister itself is located. We're in relation to the drain 575 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: plug of the pan. I'm trying to remember what this 576 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: set up looks like. Is the filter housing up top 577 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: or is it down low on the side. Yeah, it's 578 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: all There's a there's a separate housing up high, um, 579 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: sort of behind the eric cleaner high and it sort 580 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: of sits on top of where it attaches to the 581 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: cylinder head on the driver's side. And the entry and 582 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: exit point is where at the top of the canister 583 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: or at midpoint. I'm trying to remember what it looked like. 584 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: There's a metal line going to the top up high, 585 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: and then there's another line the bottom of the the 586 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: bottom of the house and it sort of shaped like 587 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: a cone. And there's another line coming out the bottom 588 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: that goes down and enters the block right above the 589 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: top of the oil pan on the driver's side. Is 590 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: your concern is that bottom line or what we'll call 591 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the drain line restricted? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 592 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Because we had had the blug off a good half 593 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: an hour and all the so we went to change 594 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: the filter, there was all this dirty world in the housing. 595 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: I would I'm trying to recall how sophisticated they were 596 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: in fifty two. My concern is, or my thought is, 597 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: is there a check valve of some type to prevent 598 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: oil drain back? Because think about it. If you shut 599 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: the engine off when it was you know, at the 600 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: end of the day, and you went to start it 601 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: in the morning, if that drain line let everything drain out, 602 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: it's going to require the filter to be filled up 603 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: before it had adequate lubrication protection for the rest of 604 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the engine. Sit tight a second. Let me pull over. 605 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Take this pause, Jonathan. We'll finish this up when I 606 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: get back. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. Don't 607 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: go away, Hey, welcome back, Jonathan. You're still there running 608 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: antying the car. Doctor, don't go away there. Good. So 609 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: take that oil filter housing apart. I recalled this as 610 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I was sitting here. Um, it's deceiving. That return line 611 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: looks like it's down at the bottom of the canister, 612 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: but it's not. They can't train oil all the oil 613 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the oil filter housing because then every time 614 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: you would go to start it, you'd have to fill 615 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: the housing before you had oil flow through the system. Right, 616 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: So you'd start the engine for oil. If you if 617 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: you take that housing apart and look at how it's made. 618 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: If I remember, right, about two inches down or three 619 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: inches down from the top, there's a little tiny d 620 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: rain hole that's going to feed oil down through the 621 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: canister or through and down to that return line that 622 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: feeds the bottom of the engine block. All right, all that, 623 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: all that steel line is coming out of the canister. 624 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a solid steel line, right. It 625 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: just looks like a piece of brake line. Right, Yeah, 626 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: that's all that is. I mean, you could take it 627 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: apart and blow through it, and you know, to your 628 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: heart's content, it's not that complicated. They didn't have a 629 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: check valve in fifty two, but that's where the idea 630 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: of oil filter drain back valves sort of evolved from. 631 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Back in the fifties. They were worried about things such 632 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: as this, and so they put the return line. If 633 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: you look at it actually gets oil fed to it 634 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: from a very small hole in the side of the canister. Um, 635 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: so the canister only empties half to two thirds of 636 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: the way down, is my memory, and that's why it 637 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: doesn't do that. So then you have to wash the 638 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: canister out and all the sludge, so on and so forth. So, um, 639 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: you're doing it right, You're doing it right. We ended 640 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: up sighting all the old oil and wipe it down right, 641 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: and then when we put there, we put the new 642 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: pilter and we build it about halfway full of castro, right, 643 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: And that's the right way to do it. That's the 644 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: absolute right way to do it. So uh, yeah, it 645 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: might be, you know, I would you know, every time 646 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: we talk about oil and older cars, it's a it's 647 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: a much longer conversation that we can have here. I 648 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: think that's fine if you want to give me a 649 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: call back next time and we can talk a little 650 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: bit more in detail, because I've got my own thoughts 651 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: about old, old car engines in the royal versus today's oils. 652 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: But you're doing fine and you're thinking, which is a 653 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: real good sign. So keep it up, Jonathan, enjoy the car. 654 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm rounding Ady in the car doctor, reminding you until 655 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. To 656 00:34:50,000 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: see you. She was star super