Speaker 1: The numbers told the story.
Speaker 2: They always don't. It's one of those idiots who believe
Speaker 2: in the analytics.
Speaker 1: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander Good.
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Speaker 2: At Skill Alexander. It is Kelly Midland, so producer number nine,
Speaker 2: so much more than a producer. Live from bar Canada
Speaker 2: here at the d Downtown Laws, Vegas, Kelly was hatting
Speaker 2: it not much, man, How you doing good? We can
Speaker 2: you know? I keep banging my head up against the
Speaker 2: sixty percent ceiling in millions and I just cannot get
Speaker 2: over it. You know.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is, Oh, it's so infuriate, you know.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is about better. What do you ask
Speaker 3: them how their weekend is? It's it's always just a
Speaker 3: response of what their banding was. Look, how are you, Gil?
Speaker 3: How are you in life? That's what I want to wait,
Speaker 3: minut what is what we wanted? Didn't even consider that?
Speaker 3: You love that night?
Speaker 2: You like you have casual relationships with friends, were betters,
Speaker 2: and you're like and those people you don't really care
Speaker 2: about how their weekend was, but they answer betteguise, what
Speaker 2: how are you doing? And really considered that when I
Speaker 2: reattached to my life, I'll let you know, yeah, exactly
Speaker 2: how are you doing? I was your weekend?
Speaker 3: You're doing good? Man, I'm exhausted. Long NBA all that
Speaker 3: was awesome. It was a lot of fun. But then, yeah, weekend.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you a story right off the top,
Speaker 2: the difference between the Warriors and the Lakers Warriors. It's
Speaker 2: such a metaphor for the Bay Area versus La Hollywood.
Speaker 2: When the Warriors won their third championship. I think they
Speaker 2: did this more than once. But I was at Carbone
Speaker 2: when they won their third. They had the parade in Oakland,
Speaker 2: they flew and they had dinner at Carbone. Forgot about that,
Speaker 2: And everybody's coming through the front eye fist bumped Draymond,
Speaker 2: Matt Barnes, JaVale McGhee. I think that was the third
Speaker 2: of their fourth right through the front door, right, everyone
Speaker 2: but Steph. Step I don't think I should let them come.
Speaker 2: The Lakers win the inaugural in season tournament. I'm also
Speaker 2: at Carbone. We never see them. They're inside the restaurant
Speaker 2: as well. Why because the Lakers are two Hollywood. They
Speaker 2: come through the service centers to the back. They not
Speaker 2: what do they put them in that back room or
Speaker 2: something close? It all? We never saw them and we're
Speaker 2: in the same restaurant and the bartenders are like rolling
Speaker 2: their eyes like this is perfect that no one can
Speaker 2: see them. Everyone's so excited to see that nobody saw it.
Speaker 2: Oh even a whiff of them. Okay. Today on the show,
Speaker 2: Week fifteen, Guessing Lines. Yes, we try to extract value
Speaker 2: in the upcoming week's NFL lines. We'll try to do that.
Speaker 2: I guess my sentiment every week is and when I
Speaker 2: feel good about it, I do well. When I don't
Speaker 2: feel good about it, I don't do as well. We'll
Speaker 2: see how we feel about these coming up. Also want
Speaker 2: to recommend three bets during this show as well. One
Speaker 2: is to make the playoffs. A couple are to win
Speaker 2: division bets, which are long shot numbers. And with four
Speaker 2: weeks left in the year, with this this you know
Speaker 2: little of a runway remaining. This is about where these
Speaker 2: kind of this is your last shot at them. We'll
Speaker 2: have aaron shots on this week the quarter pole because
Speaker 2: after this it's such a small sample size that the
Speaker 2: value is kind of eliminated entirely. Maybe an exception here there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: look at it like the same way a lot with
Speaker 2: my live betting too.
Speaker 3: It's just like you're running out a runway to allow
Speaker 3: yourself to get bets to get home.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you on that. Let's talk circus survivor.
Speaker 2: Of course, at first, which we do each and every
Speaker 2: guessing lines. We are down to and this is at
Speaker 2: the moment because seven people have the Packers tonight, one
Speaker 2: person has the Dolphins. So right now we are at
Speaker 2: you ready for this, Kelly, twenty one nine of the
Speaker 2: thirty that entered this week, we're eliminated. Eight as we
Speaker 2: found out after the fact, we're on the Steelers on
Speaker 2: Thursday night. One one was on the Detroit line. So
Speaker 2: we're down to twenty one. So with eight still pending tonight,
Speaker 2: eight still pending tonight, the intrinsic value of the twenty
Speaker 2: one remaining it to me four hundred and forty one
Speaker 2: two hundred eighty five dollars and seventy one cents. Wow,
Speaker 2: our own Adam Burke is through. He had the Browns.
Speaker 2: The entry that he is a part of had the
Speaker 2: Browns as Adam and go Adam as Adam Burke, though,
Speaker 2: does Adam Brown. Adam Burke says to me yesterday through text,
Speaker 2: he said, they've they've let me down for thirty seven
Speaker 2: years of my life. Finally one day they didn't, was
Speaker 2: his exactly. That's a good I forgot about advance in
Speaker 2: his team. That's great. Paul Howard is one of the
Speaker 2: folks on the Packers tonight. Uh so again right at
Speaker 2: this moment twenty one, still alive, but again eight penny
Speaker 2: to night. Wish everybody good luck and getting through again.
Speaker 2: Four hundred forty one thousand, two hundred eighty five dollars
Speaker 2: and seventy one cents. Oh boy, you have any plays
Speaker 2: on tonight's game? I have. I have plays in both
Speaker 2: for me too. I didn't bet either one of them, though,
Speaker 2: I bet the Packers, but I have the Dolphins and
Speaker 2: the Packers in millions heads up. In the other one,
Speaker 2: I took the points of the Giants. Yeah, Dolphins and
Speaker 2: Giants for the contest. All right, let's see, let's start.
Speaker 2: Now here's how this works again. We go through every game.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about yesterday's games, but with an eye towards
Speaker 2: this coming weeks games. I guess what the line is
Speaker 2: going to be. I don't know what they are. Kelly
Speaker 2: will tell me what the consensus number is. Within that process,
Speaker 2: we hope to find value and trigger some bets and
Speaker 2: again some futures plays here along the way as well.
Speaker 2: What is first, sir? Thursday? Oh that's first, baby, that's first.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing now, I actually remembered this last week,
Speaker 2: breaking a demagio like streak of not remembering. And I
Speaker 2: forgot the one for college. Yes, and you forgot the
Speaker 2: one for college all right. Thursday night, Chargers at Raiders.
Speaker 2: Oh god, five and eight Charges, five and eight Raiders.
Speaker 2: They're both done. So the Chargers lose to the Broncos.
Speaker 2: I had the Chargers yesterday, and any hope I had
Speaker 2: was quickly extinguished in this game for multiple reasons. First
Speaker 2: of all, early in the game. This really just describes
Speaker 2: the Chargers season. After a Chargers punt early in the game,
Speaker 2: first and ten at their own nine for the Broncos
Speaker 2: first play Wilson picked by Michael Davis, then the Chargers
Speaker 2: get nothing out of it. From the they get to
Speaker 2: fourth and three at the Denver six they had first
Speaker 2: and ten inside the red zone. They get to fourth
Speaker 2: and three at the Denver six, they failed to convert.
Speaker 2: Denver then punts. The Chargers are pinned deep in their
Speaker 2: own territory and of course that doesn't work out for them.
Speaker 2: Third and seven at their own twelve, Herbert picked by
Speaker 2: Jonathan Cooper. Same thing happening, except this time Javonte and
Speaker 2: from three to seven and nothing Denver four fifty five
Speaker 2: left in the first quarter. That's really kind of all
Speaker 2: you have to know about these Los Angeles Chargers. From there,
Speaker 2: it was a punt for Chargers, punt for Denver, pun
Speaker 2: for Chargers. By the way, that Chargers punt went eighty
Speaker 2: three yards from JK. Scott. Oh, that was awesome, tie
Speaker 2: for the longest in the NFL and the last ten years.
Speaker 2: Another Denver punt. Then the Chargers end up fourth and
Speaker 2: two at the Denver twenty nine, trying to tie up
Speaker 2: this game. They go for it Herbert incomplete intended for
Speaker 2: Alex Erison Ericson. But the big story on that play
Speaker 2: is that Herbert hurts his index finger. It is throwing hand,
Speaker 2: never to return and we find out it is fractured.
Speaker 2: He could be out the rest of the season. And
Speaker 2: I think I speak on behalf of everybody when I say, uh,
Speaker 2: why don't you just take him take a seat? What's
Speaker 2: the point? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe unlike some of the other interests we've seen this year,
Speaker 3: you're five and what eight?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you're your toast. You're done there? How quickly
Speaker 2: after the season ends, like the moment that goes as
Speaker 2: the clock goes to zero zero, do you think the
Speaker 2: Spannos family goes right? Brandon's deill are fired quicker than
Speaker 2: Josh Harris with Ron Rivera.
Speaker 3: I mean, gil, I would like to think that, but man,
Speaker 3: we've thought that so many times already that they were.
Speaker 2: To do it, even those of us who hope for
Speaker 2: the best for Brandon Stanley h Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 2: after Denver three and out, Easton Stick came in the
Speaker 2: game third and seven at their own twenty seven for
Speaker 2: the Chargers, Stick, feeling no pressure whatsoever, was hit by
Speaker 2: Jakwan mcmillion was ruled incomplete after what some thought was
Speaker 2: a fumble scoop and score. At least that was ruled
Speaker 2: on the field. Broncos end up with a field goal
Speaker 2: ten to nothing at the half. You don't really need
Speaker 2: to know any more other than the Broncos got into
Speaker 2: seventeen to nothing. The Chargers had a cosmetic touchdown later
Speaker 2: in the game, but the final score was twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven in favor of the Broncos. There was nothing
Speaker 2: to see here. Literally after Herbert left this game. Even
Speaker 2: when Herbert was in it was kind of not really
Speaker 2: must see TV, But certainly when he left. Herbert ended
Speaker 2: up nine of seventeen for ninety six, stick thirteen for
Speaker 2: twenty four for one to seventy nine in defeat the
Speaker 2: Raiders against the Vikings. You thought that was bad, how
Speaker 2: about this three to nothing Vikings they win it. Here's
Speaker 2: your first half. Vegas punt Minnesota, three and out Vegas
Speaker 2: punt Minnesota, punt Vegas three and out Minnesota, Joseph missus
Speaker 2: a forty nine yard field goal attempt Vegas three at
Speaker 2: out Minnesota punt Vegas end of half. First time since
Speaker 2: October third, nineteen eighty eight that two games on the
Speaker 2: same day went to half scoreless, by the way, the
Speaker 2: Jets game being the other. Josh Dobbs, I am man
Speaker 2: enough to admit I might have been wrong about Josh
Speaker 2: Dobbs five of eleven at the half for forty yards.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Raiders were out yarding out total
Speaker 2: yarding the Vikings at halftime ninety six to eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Oh and oh, by the way, insult injury or I
Speaker 2: should say injury to insult Justin Jefferson chest injury. On
Speaker 2: his second reception, Dobbs barely got to play with him.
Speaker 2: He would not return. Sounds like he'll be okay the
Speaker 2: long term. Yes, it does. This get continued with the punts.
Speaker 2: By the way, both teams back and forth. This was
Speaker 2: an underfest, unlike the Jets game, by the way, where
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people tried the underfest and
Speaker 2: then it came back to bite them. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: we can't get too glib about this where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you should have made tons on it. Well, some of
Speaker 2: the people made tons on this got crushed on the
Speaker 2: Jets game. Anyway. Bottom line is Dobbs benched finally in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter for Nick Mullins. Dobbs just doesn't see
Speaker 2: the field at all, Like, can you be that bad
Speaker 2: after you were? It checks one place and then looks
Speaker 2: to run. It's every time Minnesota starts out their own
Speaker 2: twenty six with five nineteen to go. There matriculate two
Speaker 2: minutes to go. This is with Nick mullins. Now they
Speaker 2: get a Joseph thirty six yard field goal three to nothing,
Speaker 2: Minnesota finally points. Vegas first played from their own twenty
Speaker 2: five O'Connell picked by Ivan Pace Junior. So everybody who's
Speaker 2: bet this ats is like, oh boy, Minnesota could cover this. Then,
Speaker 2: in a decision significant to some, they decide to pooch
Speaker 2: punt with eighteen seconds left rather than kick a field goal,
Speaker 2: and it ends up three to nothing, and that's a
Speaker 2: push for a lot of folks. O'Connell twenty one of
Speaker 2: thirty two for one seventy minus three and turnovers, but
Speaker 2: that didn't lead to any Vikings points either. That's how
Speaker 2: bad that was. The teams combined bottom line for seventeen
Speaker 2: punts in the lowest scoring NFL games since two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven. And so, since it's not Herbert and its stick,
Speaker 2: Vegas is going to be favored. I'll say by a
Speaker 2: field goal just because exactly three at draft, because what
Speaker 2: else could it be. Yeah, it feels like another Thursday
Speaker 2: night that I'll be fine not watching much of this game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: wish there were NBA in tournament in season tournament games
Speaker 2: that day. No, let's still be NBA games that night.
Speaker 2: We watch it over it. We do have Saturday games,
Speaker 2: right we do? Oh we have three Saturday. Okay, Saturday games,
Speaker 2: let's do that next Saturday games. On the other side,
Speaker 2: trying to extract value. And we have some futures bets.
Speaker 2: I got some futures bet suggestions. See how you like these.
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Speaker 2: Sunday thanks to the guys I listened to Gil. I
Speaker 2: think that's Sammy p and Feesick even won my local
Speaker 2: NFL pool. I'm glad you gleaned something for me this week.
Speaker 2: Nice of all the weeks of the year. Yeah, what'd
Speaker 2: you take away? I'm glad. Congratulations to you Stephen Vegas.
Speaker 2: As a Bills fan, I love that Hamlin was able
Speaker 2: to come back but Bills are only keeping him on
Speaker 2: the team for service time. When the season is over,
Speaker 2: he'll be he's available for NFL pension, for Buffalo, for
Speaker 2: claps clap emojis for Buffalo, for doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: But he's not Comeback Player of the Year. Who is now?
Speaker 2: Maybe Flacco, thirty eight year old Joe Flacco is a
Speaker 2: fascinating story. He's one hundred to one at DraftKings right now.
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about this for weeks. We didn't talk
Speaker 2: about that, we weren't going to talk about it. But
Speaker 2: Comeback Player of the Year just started to get so
Speaker 2: ridiculous because you have no idea what the with the
Speaker 2: betters in any award are thinking their criteria is, or
Speaker 2: what you know their criteria to be let alone this one,
Speaker 2: but that's would you throw would you throw some? Uh? Some?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I don't hate it. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I just think it's still Hamblin
Speaker 2: and I but I could.
Speaker 3: Be is where we were, Like we've we've constantly talked
Speaker 3: about it's just so hard to compare all these cases
Speaker 3: to each other, is it. I think the biggest problem
Speaker 3: with Flacco is when you're gonna go to compare him
Speaker 3: to other players not coming back from a devastating uh yeah,
Speaker 3: like what Demart Hamlin did. The problem is we're gonna
Speaker 3: go to compare them. He's only going to have played
Speaker 3: what five six games? Right, That's what it's gonna end
Speaker 3: up being for him.
Speaker 2: So I guess the questions and if he has one
Speaker 2: bad game, it's right exactly, So I guess the question
Speaker 2: is that enough? And then how? Yeah? How how many
Speaker 2: bad games can he have? Is it just won Cleveland?
Speaker 2: In case you missed, though, Kevin Stefanski did name Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco the starter for the rest of the season for
Speaker 2: the Browns, who are the inside of the AFC playoff picture.
Speaker 2: All right, let's try to get to all Saturday games. Here.
Speaker 2: What do we got? All right?
Speaker 3: Saturday? This is one Eastern kick Vikings at Bengals.
Speaker 2: Love that we have Saturday. NFL love Josh Dobbs, by
Speaker 2: the way, ten of twenty three for sixty three, no touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no picks. He was sacked five times. Honestly, have you
Speaker 2: ever seen a guy that just, all of a sudden
Speaker 2: is this bad? Maybe you have, I just don't know what.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'm like, I look over at O'Connell and
Speaker 2: he's like, I does he not see any I still
Speaker 2: don't understand what the There clearly was some disconnect between
Speaker 2: the front office and the and O'Connell, with me even
Speaker 2: bringing him in in the first place, considering he wanted
Speaker 2: to bench him after game one. Yeah, apparently I got
Speaker 2: that one wrong. He's falling back to earth. Its mullins
Speaker 2: nine of thirteen for eighty three. Again, they were plus
Speaker 2: three and turnovers. Those turnovers led to zero points in
Speaker 2: their three to nothing win over over the Raiders. By
Speaker 2: the way, Kelly sent me this stat just now. This
Speaker 2: is this puts it in context as well. NFL teams
Speaker 2: Janet Eckhart shout out to Janet Janick Eckhart on this
Speaker 2: NFL team since two thousand and eight, now one, two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five and two when they score three
Speaker 2: or fewer points, that one was that and then there's Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: both of these teams, by the way, So we just
Speaker 2: had a game between two five and eight teams, the
Speaker 2: Chargers and the Raiders. This is a game between two
Speaker 2: seven and six teams and their respective conferences, Minnesota at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati had to win this game against Indianapolis twice after
Speaker 2: a trade of three and outs. Then in Indianapolis punt
Speaker 2: Browning to Chase brown What a fine he is for
Speaker 2: fifty four seven and nothing. Cincinnati, then Matt Gay couldn't
Speaker 2: get it right. In a day where like field goals
Speaker 2: and extra points were missed left and right yesterday, literally
Speaker 2: a game misses a thirty eight yard field goal try,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati matriculates into field goal range. They were gifted a
Speaker 2: first down on a leverage call that led to a
Speaker 2: mix and one yard score. They got it to fourteen
Speaker 2: to nothing, but then Indianapolis came back seventeen play, seventy
Speaker 2: eight yard drive Minshew to Ali Cox's two yard touchdown.
Speaker 2: Matt Game missed the point after touching a fourteen to six,
Speaker 2: but then with one fifty six left in the second quarter,
Speaker 2: second play following the drivers following drive for Cincinnati, Browning
Speaker 2: was picked by Ronnie Harrison Junior to the house two
Speaker 2: point conversion good. And it was fourteen fourteen at the
Speaker 2: half somehow, And then the second half happened in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: just dominated in all three phases of the game. They
Speaker 2: went seventy five yards on six plays, Browning to Tanner
Speaker 2: Hudson from eleven out twenty one to fourteen. Indianapolis pun
Speaker 2: Cincinnati got it to fourth and one at the Indianapolis three,
Speaker 2: Mixing for two two plays later Browning in from one
Speaker 2: twenty eight to fourteen. They'd go on to win it
Speaker 2: thirty one to fourteen, but not before Browning himself got
Speaker 2: hurt and AJ McCarron had to come in. By the way,
Speaker 2: Indianapols had won last gasp in this game, they had
Speaker 2: a first in goal with of Cincinnati ten. They turned
Speaker 2: that into second and goal with the twenty five courtesy
Speaker 2: of a hold in completing a false start Minshew picked
Speaker 2: by bj Hill. That was as close as the Colts
Speaker 2: would ever get, thirty four to fourteen. The final Browning
Speaker 2: eighteen of twenty four for two to seventy five, two toughdowns,
Speaker 2: one pick. He was not sacked. He has the highest
Speaker 2: completion percentage Kelly seventy nine percent through the first three starts,
Speaker 2: through his first three starts minimum seventy five pass attempts
Speaker 2: since nineteen fifty That courtesy of ESPN Stats and Information.
Speaker 2: How about that, while think they're alive to get in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you think that, I mean I want to
Speaker 2: be the.
Speaker 3: Guy that says, let's all be cautious. This can't keep
Speaker 3: working out this way. But so far it is so yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, do they have the of course, they have
Speaker 3: the pieces around him. This team was built around a
Speaker 3: quarterback right to succeed on the on the offense. So
Speaker 3: this will not technically be an elimination game, but it's
Speaker 3: the facto elimination game between Minnesota and Cincinnati again and
Speaker 3: their respective conferences. I will say Cincinnati minus four and
Speaker 3: a half knowingly the Vikings troubles at Q Bengals minus four,
Speaker 3: minus four k next close, next, all right, four to
Speaker 3: thirty Eastern Steelers at Colts.
Speaker 2: All right, we don't have to say much about this.
Speaker 2: We already talked about the Steelers on Friday. Steelers seven
Speaker 2: and six, the Colts seven and six. How about this
Speaker 2: Colts in defeat in that game against the Bengals Minshew
Speaker 2: twenty six of thirty nine for two forty one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick you with sack three times. I will say
Speaker 2: the Colts by is either two and a half or three.
Speaker 2: I'll say three two and a half. Okay, all right, all.
Speaker 3: Right, eight fifteen Eastern Saturday Night Broncos at Lion.
Speaker 2: The Broncos are seven and six. You have six teams
Speaker 2: in the AFC that are seven and six. People love
Speaker 2: the Broncos. I'm sorry, I still don't see I'm with you,
Speaker 2: uh seven. And some people love Sean. They want to
Speaker 2: canonize Sean Payne. I don't see it. Seven and six
Speaker 2: at the Detroit Lions, boil boy the Lions. They're nine
Speaker 2: and four. The Lions lose. We already talked about the Broncos.
Speaker 2: The Lions lose to the Bears. Bears took the opening
Speaker 2: drive sixty nine yards on eight plays, DJ Moore in
Speaker 2: from sixteen seven to nothing. Bears Detroit punts Chicago Santo's
Speaker 2: forty six yard field goal, set up in part by
Speaker 2: fields to Darnell Mooney twenty eight yard hookup with a
Speaker 2: fifteen yard unnecessary roughness tacked on Alexand's alone ten to nothing,
Speaker 2: one twenty two left in the first quarter, fourth and ten,
Speaker 2: Detroit fourth and tent at the Chicago thirty five they
Speaker 2: go for it golf picked by Jalen Johnson. Bears then
Speaker 2: stopped on downs themselves though fourth in one of the
Speaker 2: Detroit thirty eight more no gain, and then Detroit goes
Speaker 2: sixty two yards eight plays, incuting golf to people Jones
Speaker 2: for seventeen and on fourth and three at Chicago thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Gibbs that was on fourth and three at the Chicago
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Pardon me, Gibbs eventually in from twelve ten
Speaker 2: to six Chicago because Riley Patterson missed the pat What
Speaker 2: a horrible kicking day in the NFL yesterday, six to
Speaker 2: fifty nine left in the second quarter. After Chicago three
Speaker 2: and out, Detroit then goes fifty three yards and eleven plays.
Speaker 2: We forget that Detroit took the lead here goff to
Speaker 2: Reynolds from eight out thirteen to ten. That would be
Speaker 2: the halftime score in favor of Detroit. But then the
Speaker 2: second half Detroit three and out Santo's twenty five yard
Speaker 2: field goal to tie it up at thirteen apiece, eight
Speaker 2: thirty nine left on the third quarter, then another Detroit
Speaker 2: three and out, followed by Chicago three and out, follow
Speaker 2: by Detroit three and out Chicago fourth and thirteen at
Speaker 2: the Detroit thirty eight. This after a play on third
Speaker 2: down where I have no idea how they didn't call
Speaker 2: intentional grounding on justin fields yet they didn't fourth and
Speaker 2: thirteen at Detroit thirty eight. That, by the way, is
Speaker 2: ruled so inconsistently, I you know, drives those as the
Speaker 2: dard back falling down is his knee down, No he
Speaker 2: gets rid of it, but yes, if he gets rid
Speaker 2: of it, where is he throwing it to? Yep, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: cole Comet was in the It's.
Speaker 3: Always means you'll bring it up all the time, but
Speaker 3: it's grounding and it's the uncatchable pass like sometimes they just.
Speaker 2: Whiff on these so badly. So on fourth and thirteen,
Speaker 2: h fields free play because Detroit jumps offside to more
Speaker 2: for thirty eight touchdown nineteen thirteen Chicago Santos's bat was
Speaker 2: blocked second play, ensuing drive. Then Graham Glasgow fumbles for Detroit,
Speaker 2: recovered by t. J. Edwards. Chicago set up the Detroit
Speaker 2: twenty nine to five plays fields in from eleven touchdown
Speaker 2: two point conversion fields. It's twenty five to thirteen at
Speaker 2: this point, early fourth quarter, fourth and one at their
Speaker 2: own thirty four for Detroit. Dan Campbell doing the old
Speaker 2: Brandon Stally thing and not taking nearly as much guff
Speaker 2: as Brandon Staley used to. He just completely ruins these games.
Speaker 2: For the lines. Gibbs four yard loss that sets up
Speaker 2: a Santo's twenty eight or field twenty eight to thirteen
Speaker 2: with nine to twenty to go, and Detroit would then
Speaker 2: just turn it over on downs on one possession subsequent
Speaker 2: to that and then Goff get picked on another one.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight to thirteen is how it would end. Goff
Speaker 2: twenty of thirty five for one sixty one. Detroit only
Speaker 2: had thirteen first downs and they were outgained three thirty
Speaker 2: six to two sixty seven. They were minus three and
Speaker 2: turnovers that led to plus six Chicago net points. The
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions ain't good man. We'll get to a division
Speaker 2: thought here later. But it's the nine to four Lions
Speaker 2: hosting the Broncos. I'll say Lions by three and a half.
Speaker 2: It is Lions four right now. Lions minus four at
Speaker 2: draft games, no idea how my over didn't get home
Speaker 2: in that game. It's one of these where I'm like
Speaker 2: tempted to take the Lions though, because they are because
Speaker 2: of those fourth down calls. They're very volatile, right yes,
Speaker 2: And if it's volatile to the good they should be
Speaker 2: able to cover that. There are a lot of three
Speaker 2: and a halves out there. I was just gonna go
Speaker 2: look at that. I'm wondering. I'm wondering if there's gonna
Speaker 2: be Denver money this week. Yeah, I'll wait. I'm not
Speaker 2: rushing to do three. I'm with you. I'm bad. Lions.
Speaker 2: Interesting game and Detroit. Those objects in your review mirror
Speaker 2: getting closer, more guessing lines, next numbers game Visa the
Speaker 2: Sports Betting Network. Let us continue moving on to Sunday now,
Speaker 2: Week fifteen. God, can you believe it? I think I'm
Speaker 2: contractually obligated to say this now. Can you believe we're
Speaker 2: at week fifteen? It's wild man, it's flying by, It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Week fifteen, all right? One in Eastern Bears at Browns, Bears
Speaker 2: A Browns. We just talked about the Bears in victory
Speaker 2: fields nineteen of thirty three for two twenty three one touchdown.
Speaker 2: No Pixie was sacked three times, twelve carries for fifty
Speaker 2: eight yards of a touchdown and against Chicago, held Detroit
Speaker 2: to thirteen first downs and outgained the Lions with vaunted
Speaker 2: offense three thirty six to two sixty seven. They were
Speaker 2: plus three in turnovers zero to three led to plus
Speaker 2: six Chicago ned points Cleveland Browns. We talked about Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco a little earlier. Cleveland against Jacksonville, Browns took the
Speaker 2: opening drive seventy five yard six plays, Flacco to a
Speaker 2: wide Oak wide open to Djoku from thirty four to
Speaker 2: seven to nothing. Cleveland then teams traded three and ounts
Speaker 2: in a Jacksonville punt, then a trade of three and
Speaker 2: outs again, then another Jacksonville punt. Cleveland then goes seventy
Speaker 2: two yards in four plays, Flacco to Najoku for thirty
Speaker 2: Why is my voice doing that? Fourteen to nothing Cleveland
Speaker 2: thirteen forty left. Second quarter, first play in suing drive,
Speaker 2: Lawrence picked deep by Martin Emerson Junior. Okay, so Cleveland's
Speaker 2: up fourteen to nothing. A lot of strange games yesterday,
Speaker 2: but this is one of those where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: Cleveland's gonna blow them out. Cleveland refused to blow them out.
Speaker 2: Cleveland matriculates, but third and four of the Jacksonville thirty
Speaker 2: seven Flacco picked by Darius Williams. Jaggs would have to punt,
Speaker 2: but the first play in suing drive first and had
Speaker 2: their own five Flacco to Amari Cooper for nineteen. He's
Speaker 2: tackled by Andrew Winguardy fumbles and finally jack Jacksonville's like okay,
Speaker 2: recovered by Devin Lloyd. They're set up at the Cleveland twelve.
Speaker 2: Two plays later, Lawrence to Evan Ingram from ten out,
Speaker 2: fourteen to seven Cleveland six fourteen left, second quarter, and
Speaker 2: the game would kind of go like this. Cleveland would
Speaker 2: take a two touchdown lead. Jacksonville will cut it to
Speaker 2: seven after Cleveland three and out. Jacksonville gets it to
Speaker 2: first and ten at the clean Eveland twenty four. They're
Speaker 2: knocking at the door to tie this. Lawrence picked by
Speaker 2: Martin Emerson Junior again, one forty seven left in the
Speaker 2: second quarter. That would be the halftime score. At halftime,
Speaker 2: Flacco had thrown for two hundred twelve yards boom and
Speaker 2: a two hundred and sixty six to one to twenty
Speaker 2: nine total yards advantage for Cleveland, Yet they're only up
Speaker 2: fourteen to seven. Third quarter opening drive, third play, third
Speaker 2: and twenty one at their own fourteen. Lawrence to Parker Washington,
Speaker 2: hit by Anthony Walker Junior, fumbles recovered by Walker. Cleveland
Speaker 2: set up at Jacksonville twenty two seven plays in hunting
Speaker 2: from four twenty one to seven Cleveland. This team. Both
Speaker 2: of these teams were like here, go ahead, take it over.
Speaker 2: After Jacksonville three and out, second and ten for Cleveland
Speaker 2: at their own thirty three, Flacco sacked by Antonio Johnson fumbles,
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Ledbetter recovers, Jacksonville set up at the Cleveland twenty five.
Speaker 2: This game took forever because of all this. Six plays
Speaker 2: in at the n N from one twenty one to
Speaker 2: fourteen Cleveland four to fifty nine left in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: Then after Cleveland punt, Lawrence picked deep by Greg Newsome
Speaker 2: third and one from their own fifteen, Cleveland set up
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville forty eight. Four plays later, Flack to David
Speaker 2: Bell from forty one out, wide open touchdown twenty eight
Speaker 2: to fourteen. Cleveland like okay, well, Cleveland backers like goal, easy,
Speaker 2: peasy right, twelve thirty four to go. Then Jacksonville goes
Speaker 2: seventy five yards nine plays because of course they do.
Speaker 2: Lawrence to Parker Washington from nineteen out twenty eight twenty
Speaker 2: one Cleveland. Cleveland eventually punch in Jacksonville then stopped on downs.
Speaker 2: Cleveland set up with the Jacksonville thirty eight, they're thirty eight,
Speaker 2: they're up seven with three thirty to go. They get
Speaker 2: a Hopkins fifty five yard field goal to go up ten,
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty one, and now you're like, of course,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is gonna get the ball now and push this game.
Speaker 2: Nine plays, seventy five yards Lawrence to Ingram from two out,
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty seven, one, thirty three to go. Kelly
Speaker 2: and the Jacksonville Jaguars and Doug Peterson, maybe the only
Speaker 2: team in the league that would do this, maybe decide
Speaker 2: to go for two. We've seen the fourteen to eight
Speaker 2: and then they go for two to get it to six.
Speaker 2: We've sort of established that now that people kind of
Speaker 2: get that. Not everyone loves it, but people get that
Speaker 2: it's a normal thing. I don't think we've ever seen
Speaker 2: the four to two before. I could be wrong. By
Speaker 2: the way, on the two point conversion, Lawrence is sacked
Speaker 2: on sidekick fails. There's your ballgame. The people had had
Speaker 2: the three and a half either way. That was an
Speaker 2: unbelievable occurrence. The Browns cover, Jacksonville does not because of
Speaker 2: that failed two point attempt. Now, before we get to
Speaker 2: the guests here. Well, Flaco, by the way, three hundred
Speaker 2: and eleven yards in this game, twenty six and forty five.
Speaker 2: Name the starter for the rest of the season. Najoku
Speaker 2: six for ninety one, two touchdowns, seven turnovers in this game,
Speaker 2: four for Jacksonville, three for Cleveland. Let's get to that
Speaker 2: decision in a minute. Cleveland minus three and a half,
Speaker 2: I'll say, hosting Chicago, yep, dead on it, Bail. Do
Speaker 2: you like that decision to go for two down, four
Speaker 2: one thirty three left?
Speaker 3: So I think what I the way you just described
Speaker 3: the fourteen when you're fourteen down, I am so on
Speaker 3: board with that one.
Speaker 2: Now this one, I get it. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I like it. I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: So so I don't know that I have a huge
Speaker 3: problem with it. I get I guess is my point.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it affected a lot of things yesterday.
Speaker 2: The analytics, Well, I'm trying to say, what's the easiest
Speaker 2: way to try to convince people that I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to convince you to like this, but I'm trying to
Speaker 2: give the analytics argument for this. So the eight to
Speaker 2: six one of the ways that you can describe that,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people go to that, Well, you
Speaker 2: want to know, you want to have the information, and
Speaker 2: you do want to have the information in the eight
Speaker 2: to six. You want to know if you can win
Speaker 2: the game. You want to know if you'll need it,
Speaker 2: you know, a touchdown in a two at the end,
Speaker 2: you just want to There's that. But the way that
Speaker 2: there's a way to describe it as the difference between
Speaker 2: the eight and the seven is less than the difference
Speaker 2: between the seven and the six when it comes to
Speaker 2: football scoring. I think we understand that because eight and
Speaker 2: seven is still one score, yes, one that involves a
Speaker 2: two point version of one doesn't, and the six is
Speaker 2: you just win the football game, So we're talking about
Speaker 2: win probability rare in the same way, the difference between
Speaker 2: the four and the three is less than the difference
Speaker 2: between the three and the two. But that's a little
Speaker 2: more counterintuitive, right, because if there was twenty seconds left
Speaker 2: in the game, I would argue, you don't do this
Speaker 2: correct because if you recover the on side kick, you
Speaker 2: have so little time that you'd have to kick the
Speaker 2: field goal to extend it to over too. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: one is even more time dependent in my mind than
Speaker 2: the fourteen point one. It's just one of these things
Speaker 2: where you have to sort of convince yourself. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen in overtime. I want perfect information.
Speaker 2: This is the analytically correct thing to do. But I
Speaker 2: am with you, Kelly in that I don't like it
Speaker 2: nearly as much as the eight to six. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway,
Speaker 2: it had betting implications, huge ones and there you I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean especially I just I do think this is
Speaker 2: where and I know where this.
Speaker 3: Is where the coaches struggle a lot with this stuff.
Speaker 3: You do have to take game flow into the account,
Speaker 3: I think a little bit. And man, with how much
Speaker 3: It's not like these offenses were moving the ball easily
Speaker 3: up and down the field.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're gonna have to recover
Speaker 2: the on side kick anyway. You obviously everyone gets it.
Speaker 2: If you get the two, oh, it's great because you
Speaker 2: can win with a field goal. If you don't, you
Speaker 2: just you're gonna have to matriculate forty thirty five yards further.
Speaker 2: But it's still enough time to do that. It's interesting.
Speaker 2: Next game, Next game, okay, uh Sunday one Eastern Bucks
Speaker 2: at Nope, Bucks at not the Browns Kelly Packers, six
Speaker 2: and seven Bucks, who now lead currently right at this moment,
Speaker 2: the NFC South and the six and six Packers, who
Speaker 2: we haven't seen play. They play tonight at the Giants.
Speaker 2: They're six and a half point favorites as far as
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. Yesterday they end up beating Atlanta in a
Speaker 2: game in which they were out gained four thirty four
Speaker 2: to two ninety and it came down to we'll just
Speaker 2: fast forward to the end of this twenty two to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Tampa's up in a game that was back and forth
Speaker 2: to that point. Atlanta goes seventy five yards on five plays,
Speaker 2: book ended by Ridard to London for forty five, which
Speaker 2: was a beautiful play that looked like it was gonna
Speaker 2: get picked, but instead London snatched it out of the
Speaker 2: air and that drive clothes with Ritter in from six
Speaker 2: and a two point conversion. So Richard London on the
Speaker 2: two pointer twenty five twenty two Atlanta with three twenty
Speaker 2: three to go. Tampa ends up on their final drive
Speaker 2: here fourth and one at their own forty five at
Speaker 2: the two minute warning, Rashad White for three. Six plays later,
Speaker 2: Mayfield to Otten from eleven out touchdown twenty nine to
Speaker 2: twenty five Tampa Bay with thirty one seconds to go,
Speaker 2: Atlanta gets it all the way to the Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: thirty with four seconds left to London for twenty eight
Speaker 2: two yards. Shy. Not good enough ballgame and as I said,
Speaker 2: out gained by Atlanta four thirty four to two ninety.
Speaker 2: The Bucks managed to win. Mayfield completed fourteen team forward
Speaker 2: passes fourteen for twenty nine for one four two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: No Pixie with sack. Once they're at Green Bay, I'll
Speaker 2: say Green Bay sight unseen tonight, green Bay by four
Speaker 2: and a half. And this is in the driver's seat
Speaker 2: now in the NFC South, your Buccaneers. That's what I said. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Packers are three and a half point favorites. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: really yeah four at one point. I'm really high on
Speaker 2: the Packers. I like them tonight. I think I like
Speaker 2: them in this game too, Battle of the Base. I
Speaker 2: like the Packers so much I'd like to give a suggestion.
Speaker 2: They are nine to one to win the NFC North
Speaker 2: nine to one. They got five games, including tonight's at
Speaker 2: the Giants home Tampa at Carolina, at Minnesota home Chicago,
Speaker 2: all kind of winnable Detroit and Minnesota, who are ahead
Speaker 2: of them. Detroit by two in the lost column, Minnesota
Speaker 2: by Minnesota just by half game Detroit Denver at Minnesota
Speaker 2: at Dallas home Minnesota. So if you figure they lose
Speaker 2: at Dallas and they split with the Vikings, even if
Speaker 2: you think they beat the Broncos, that's two losses. Minnesota's
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati home Detroit. They have a head to head
Speaker 2: with Detroit, green Bay and the at Detroit the two
Speaker 2: games in three weeks. I kind of think green Bay
Speaker 2: at nine to one represents value. I like it. I
Speaker 2: have them from the preseason, so I'll just hold on there.
Speaker 2: What's your number of preseason like three seventy five or something,
Speaker 2: nine to one? Pretty good coming back numbers. Game Vison,
Speaker 2: you went to that Brian Windhorse hoop collective thing, that
Speaker 2: live podcast. Yes, it did. How was it? It was?
Speaker 2: It was very cool. It was very cool.
Speaker 3: I was invited by some old friends that used to
Speaker 3: work with over at ESPN to go to it, and
Speaker 3: it was a very kind of private, h private kind
Speaker 3: of exclusive event. It was just like a live podcast,
Speaker 3: which like much like you know, if you're with you
Speaker 3: doing the megapod if there was a bit of an
Speaker 3: audience here, So I think it was. I think it
Speaker 3: was interesting for those guys doing it, just because it's
Speaker 3: different from the way that you always record your podcast, right,
Speaker 3: But it was it was.
Speaker 2: It was a cool vet.
Speaker 3: You got to see some great people and yeah, they
Speaker 3: had some great guests on Kevin Pelton, Malik Andrews all that,
Speaker 3: so everybody was down there.
Speaker 2: That whole in season tournament was ended up being such
Speaker 2: a great idea, It really was.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a great idea with the podcast too,
Speaker 3: because all these NBA people are in town.
Speaker 2: Obviously. Yeah, no arrogance among that group, none whatsoever. Jack
Speaker 2: Special Breed, Jack Hannon. If a receiver, we'll get to
Speaker 2: this with the Chiefs coming up. If a receiver lines
Speaker 2: up as a linebacker, I believe you have to throw
Speaker 2: a flag. My issue is, I believe last night's officials
Speaker 2: were told to find one last night. Sure enough, they
Speaker 2: did combine this with holding flags being picked up on touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't look good. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they were told to look for one. I'll have my
Speaker 2: opinion on that coming up when we get to it.
Speaker 3: I maybe think that in the in the Sunday night
Speaker 3: game last night? That what when they called that? They
Speaker 3: called that They called it on the guard from leaning
Speaker 3: into the neutral zone.
Speaker 2: Oh, last night in that game, so I would the
Speaker 2: Eagles game the Eagles Cowboy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one where I was like, this
Speaker 3: feels like an NFLF.
Speaker 2: I even texted when that happened. I was like, is
Speaker 2: he off side? Yeah? And how did that look off
Speaker 2: sides to you at all? Okay? So I think it was,
Speaker 2: but it was so barely Gil, I'm sorry that. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm never the conspiracy theoriest guy.
Speaker 3: That that was the one where it was like, man,
Speaker 3: it felt like the NFL called this ref.
Speaker 2: Crew before in too Rico and Collins where didn't really
Speaker 2: comp They were like, okay, that's off side. I was like,
Speaker 2: it was we're talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 3: And you would think you'd be making a bigger deal
Speaker 3: about that after what just happened in Chiefs Bill.
Speaker 2: Not sure it would have mattered in the outcome of
Speaker 2: that one last night, but yeah, all right, let's do another.
Speaker 2: What do we got? All right? We are on too
Speaker 2: Texans at Titans Sex? Is it Titans again? For everybody saying,
Speaker 2: oh you should have made a fortune on the Vikings
Speaker 2: Raiders live bet undering them. Well, if you did it
Speaker 2: on this Houston Jets game, you got slapped because first
Speaker 2: half Houston punt, Jets punt, Houston punt, Jets three and out,
Speaker 2: Houston punt Jets punt, Houston three and out, Jets three
Speaker 2: and out, Houston three and out, Jets three and out,
Speaker 2: Houston punt Jets and half. Here's your first half, Stroud
Speaker 2: cj That is twenty eight yards passing. In the first half,
Speaker 2: the Jets out gained the Texans one hundred to sixty three.
Speaker 2: There were eleven punts and ten first dounds in the
Speaker 2: first half of that Jets Texans game, and then the
Speaker 2: third quarter happened. Opening drive, Jets go seventy five yards
Speaker 2: seven place, because of course they do fifty five of
Speaker 2: those to Garrett Wilson. Wilson a cob from fifteen out,
Speaker 2: seven to nothing, Jettison's after the Houston three and out,
Speaker 2: Jets go sixty nine yards, Xavier Gibson in from nine
Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing, Jets four to thirty one left. Third
Speaker 2: quarter after another Houston three and out, Jets first and
Speaker 2: tend their own forty Zach for eleven hit by Christian Harris,
Speaker 2: fumbles Khalil Davis recovers, go fifty seven yards on four plays,
Speaker 2: Singletary in from one, fourteen to six. A Mondola misses
Speaker 2: a pat to Then the third quarter. Have I mentioned
Speaker 2: it was a horrible day kicking Jets then go seventy
Speaker 2: five five yards nine plays, Wilson to Hall. That's Breee
Speaker 2: for three, twenty one to six. Then Houston three and
Speaker 2: out zer line fifty one yard field goal twenty four
Speaker 2: to six. Subsequent drive, Stroud bangs his head on the turf,
Speaker 2: knocked out Mills in zero. Lin would add two more
Speaker 2: field goals from fifty five and forty four, thirty to six. Jets.
Speaker 2: Stroud ten for twenty three for ninety one before he
Speaker 2: was taken out, Mills taking out for injury or concussion.
Speaker 2: Mills one for five for four yards. The Jets out
Speaker 2: game Houston three forty seven to one, thirty five twenty
Speaker 2: to ten in first downs, and the Texans were one
Speaker 2: of twelve on third and zero for three on fourth.
Speaker 2: Only had the ball twenty two minutes and fifty five seconds.
Speaker 2: I get it, you might have had the Jets, but
Speaker 2: thirty to six Yeah, what would you put the number
Speaker 2: on Aaron Rodgers popping up out of nowhere this weekend
Speaker 2: making it about him. Oh, I can still come back,
Speaker 2: all right, Aaron Oh Man, just can't eliminated already. So
Speaker 2: we don't have to deal with this because I do.
Speaker 2: The problem is you're right, You're right, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be annoyed by that for this week. Yeah, but man,
Speaker 2: you gotta give that. You gotta give this Jets defense.
Speaker 2: And then Zack Wilson some credit. Brent called it on
Speaker 2: the megapote with Zack Wilson. He said, Zack Wilson has
Speaker 2: been unfairly I'll use my words, not his unfairly maligned. Yes,
Speaker 2: like in a way two, not that he's good, but
Speaker 2: in a way that's over the top. Yes, absolutely, I
Speaker 2: think that form the since he since the jump with
Speaker 2: it Houston minus two and a half on the road.
Speaker 2: By the way, if CJ. Stroud, even if he were
Speaker 2: to let's he gets back in, Even if if he
Speaker 2: were to play like this the rest of the way,
Speaker 2: he won't win Rookie of the Year either. Just want
Speaker 2: to throw that out, Yeah, I mean I don't think
Speaker 2: that's good. That will happen this was his I don't
Speaker 2: think it will have this. He's a dut of a
Speaker 2: game on the road against a good defense, not ideal. Well,
Speaker 2: they just want to point out for all of it. Yes,
Speaker 2: ticket is not dead. Oh I wasn't even talking about that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you're right. But I'm just saying with all
Speaker 2: of these awards, there's still enough runway. Obviously with MVP
Speaker 2: and Coach of the Year, those are still up for grabs.
Speaker 2: But for the ones that you think are done, though,
Speaker 2: maybe they're not. Houston minus two and a half at
Speaker 2: Tennessee or does Tank Dell's absence mean that much? It
Speaker 2: is Titans minus two. Sorry, DraftKings just went off and
Speaker 2: got I think the wrong team is favorite here. Titans
Speaker 2: don't play till tonight Titan's favorite. Huh? Is that because
Speaker 2: we don't know if C. J. Stroud is playing? Is
Speaker 2: that the assumption? Yes, I mean he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 2: be in concussion protocol. Okay, that makes he's gonna be
Speaker 2: in concussion protocol. Now, did Derek Carr just clear it
Speaker 2: in a week's time, Yes, he did, But before him there,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's been like a year year plus
Speaker 2: since since someone's cleared it that fast quarterback wise at least,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Be interesting. You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: keep your eye out on it. But this is you
Speaker 2: heard Adam Turnoff talking about it this morning his podcast.
Speaker 2: Like some of these injury things, especially the concussions, where
Speaker 2: you kind of thought to know how to handle it
Speaker 2: week to week, you just can't. You have no idea,
Speaker 2: You have no idea. So yeah, I forgot. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: guess is if he doesn't play obviously, all right, what's next?
Speaker 2: All right? Next up? Jets at Dolphins, Dolphins sight unseen.
Speaker 2: They play tonight, they host the Titans. Jets. We just
Speaker 2: talked about Zach Wilson in victory twenty seven of thirty
Speaker 2: six for three to oh one. How about it, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no picks. We sacked four times, Garrett Wilson nine for
Speaker 2: one oh eight breeze ten for forty on the ground,
Speaker 2: eight for eighty six in receptions at a touchdown, Jets
Speaker 2: out gaining the Texas. We talked about three forty seven
Speaker 2: to one thirty five. Dolphins will still be I mean,
Speaker 2: if nothing happens tonight, right, the Dolphins get out healthy tonight,
Speaker 2: they do what they're supposed to do. They'll be thirteen
Speaker 2: point favorites, right, something like that. Uh got him at
Speaker 2: twelve right now?
Speaker 3: But yes, I think I think you'll see a similar
Speaker 3: number to what we're seeing tonight.
Speaker 2: Yes, probably well by the end of this, all right,
Speaker 2: rather than jump into the Kansas City game here, because
Speaker 2: I want to want to let that person skip ahead one. No, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to skip ahead one? You want to do that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, let's skip ahead one. Let's do one, all right.
Speaker 2: Sunday one. Eastern Giants at Saints. Okay, Giants are four
Speaker 2: and eight. Giants four and eight. They play tonight they
Speaker 2: host the Packers. Saints six and seven, though right now
Speaker 2: they would not be in first place in the NFC South.
Speaker 2: All right, Saints beat the Panthers. But it's like one
Speaker 2: of these games where you're like, are the Saints any
Speaker 2: good at all? After a Carolina No? After Carolina three
Speaker 2: and out? Blake Group at Yanks a twenty nine yard
Speaker 2: field will try wide left? Did you see that attempt? Yes,
Speaker 2: that thing landed in the section in the corner. That
Speaker 2: was like I think that was a little bit of
Speaker 2: bad snap, bad hold, and bad kick. Like it was
Speaker 2: like all three combined. You know the you know the
Speaker 2: section that dips down into a triangle, like into one seat.
Speaker 2: That guy caught the ball. Then first for Carolina at
Speaker 2: their own forty nine, Bryce hit ball up in the air,
Speaker 2: picked by Pete Warner, but in New Orleans three and out,
Speaker 2: Carolina obliges with their own three and out short field
Speaker 2: for New Orleans starting at the Carolina forty four six
Speaker 2: plays Comarian from nine first play, second quarter, seven to nothing,
Speaker 2: Saints pinero forty seven yard field w made seven fe
Speaker 2: three New Orleans punt Carolina three and out. Johnny Hecker
Speaker 2: then punt block DeMarco Jackson to the house from eight
Speaker 2: out for New Orleans fourteen to three, Saints four to
Speaker 2: thirty six left in the second quarter, and then from
Speaker 2: there it's kind of like, you know, they just cruise right.
Speaker 2: It's Carolina stopped on downs fourth and one at the
Speaker 2: New Orleans forty five Brice incomplete. Carr was then picked
Speaker 2: by Derek Brown in the closing seconds, but Carolina couldn't
Speaker 2: advance the ball. Then by the way halftime, Bryce Young
Speaker 2: was three of fifteen for twenty nine and a fumble loss.
Speaker 2: Carr was ten of fifteen for forty one and a
Speaker 2: pick by.
Speaker 3: The way, right right, Yeah, yeah, there wasn't much more
Speaker 3: press Yeah.
Speaker 2: Third quarter New Orleans punt, Carolina starts to throw on fourteen.
Speaker 2: They get it to first and goal at the New
Speaker 2: Orleans one. Here's the Panthers season a nutshell first and
Speaker 2: goal at the New Orleans one, one yard loss sack
Speaker 2: incomplete Pinero field goal is good fourteen to six New Orleans.
Speaker 2: And then after New Orleans three and out, Carolina matriculates
Speaker 2: Pinero doinks of forty one yardfield goal try. New Orleans
Speaker 2: would add one more score or two more scores, twenty
Speaker 2: eight to six. The bottom line in this game is
Speaker 2: Carolina outgained New Orleans three to zero, three to two
Speaker 2: oh seven. Car eighteen of twenty six for one nineteen pathetic,
Speaker 2: Bryce thirteen of thirty six for one thirty seven. New
Speaker 2: Orleans isn't any good. But they'll be five and a half.
Speaker 2: But I know that there'll be five and a half
Speaker 2: right somewhere in there because of what their previous home
Speaker 2: games against other crappy teams are. Yep, six and a half.
Speaker 2: Oh even more dirr. I mean, like, look that defense
Speaker 2: is pretty good. This is bit disgusting. Just show of
Speaker 2: offense from them all season. What do you mean Jamis
Speaker 2: were like best so far? I don't know, probably Green
Speaker 2: Bay at this point. LeBatard is next on the DraftKings Network.
Speaker 2: We're coming back at VSON more guessing lines, including that
Speaker 2: Kansas City game. It's a numbers game at VSA. These
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Speaker 2: Gil Alexander, Kelly Biddlin h Kelly. Before retweets, I would
Speaker 2: like to talk about the scourge of people who are
Speaker 2: exercising who mishear things you say. Angriest guy in Kentucky. Uh,
Speaker 2: basically like angry tweeting that I was defending Staley and
Speaker 2: I said to her, I go no. I said, like,
Speaker 2: how quickly will Spano's fire Staley right as the final gun?
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, will people kill Campbell as much
Speaker 2: as they did Staley back in the day for taking
Speaker 2: for all those fourth and the downs. And he goes, oh, sorry,
Speaker 2: I was on a bike. And then Felico's like, did
Speaker 2: you say that CJ. Stroud won't win Rookie of the Year? No,
Speaker 2: I said, if he plays like that for the rest
Speaker 2: of the way, he wouldn't win Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, sorry, I'm on a bike. All
Speaker 2: these people on bike biking and misquoting King and misquoting
Speaker 2: we get out there and bike. You get tweets from
Speaker 2: people who are not on bikes. Alan Mitchell gill Is
Speaker 2: Browning a Dobs sequel or the real thing? Also, what
Speaker 2: about Pizza Money Flak who come back Player of the Year. Well,
Speaker 2: we talked about Flacco. I don't hate it, I really don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Hamlin's gonna get it. But I listen,
Speaker 2: there are I get the story thirty eight years old
Speaker 2: off the street so much better than the other guys,
Speaker 2: dtr and PJ. Walker. But here's the thing again, one
Speaker 2: bad Flacco game and he's not winning, Like you have
Speaker 2: to be perfect from here on out. As far as
Speaker 2: like Browning, being a dob sequel. I don't think so,
Speaker 2: because Will Browning forget how to play quarterback entirely. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. Who knows what these guys who knows?
Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't. I mean Browning is one
Speaker 2: of those guys too. Where he was it was so
Speaker 2: bad in college. It's tough to.
Speaker 3: Figure out he was so like he was highly recruited, right,
Speaker 3: he's like one of those historic high school careers if
Speaker 3: you go back and look at it and then Washington, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like up and down, and he's just been in what
Speaker 3: has he been.
Speaker 2: In the NFL now for a few years? Why not
Speaker 2: say it was bad in college? Yeah, I just remember
Speaker 2: betting against him a lot in winning, Ryan Gold, if
Speaker 2: the Dolphins and Packers win straight up tonight, I win
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred dollars in my pick in my pick eight.
Speaker 2: How would you hedge? Oh God, edging questions, Kelly, I'd
Speaker 2: say wait for the second game. But yeah, they're concurrent.
Speaker 2: No one likes I still understand it, Ryan, I listen,
Speaker 2: at this point, there's no there's nothing clean on either.
Speaker 2: You don't have a clean straight hey, I mean unless
Speaker 2: one of those games turns into a blowout. In your
Speaker 2: favor right in the other one, if there's one, I
Speaker 2: would tell you take the points, you know, with the
Speaker 2: with the I wouldn't do to anything. Tillian game. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you got two to finish it. Bruce do
Speaker 2: big and Chase Brown's a Canuck and he's a twin.
Speaker 2: His bro Sidney plays for the Eagles, So we got
Speaker 2: that going for us. Talking about Chase Brown of the Bengals.
Speaker 2: This is from Bye Week Picks. Now that Dak is
Speaker 2: the front runner for the MVP, how about Purty one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to one for Offensive Player of the Year?
Speaker 2: Great story for myster irrelevant to win an award and
Speaker 2: historically not always an n quarterback. Bye Week Picks. I
Speaker 2: actually have Party from earlier in the at seventy five
Speaker 2: to one to win Offensive Player of the Year. I
Speaker 2: also have him at sixteen to one to win MVP,
Speaker 2: and I have Tyreek for MVP at seventy five to one.
Speaker 2: So the thing is I decided to do the counterintuitive
Speaker 2: thing earlier was like, I'll take Tyreek for MVP and
Speaker 2: Purty for Offensive Player of the Year. And then Aaron
Speaker 2: Shots comes on and tells us, well, he's not gonna
Speaker 2: vote that way, and so that's why I took the
Speaker 2: party play. So I can't in good conscience recommend that
Speaker 2: even though I have it. If that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's weird is if I was going to if
Speaker 3: I was gonna bet that, I get the narrative you're
Speaker 3: trying to build up. But if you're gonna bet that,
Speaker 3: I'd do what you did, I would actually bet both then, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I think the only way he would win that
Speaker 3: is if somehow these quarterbacks crater and they actually decide
Speaker 3: to give it the MVP to a non quarterback, which
Speaker 3: would be Tyreek.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting day yesterday because a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of the guys who were who were in the
Speaker 2: front runners for Coach of the Year lost, right, the
Speaker 2: Demico Ryans and the Shane Steichens of the world. And
Speaker 2: then with the odds, I don't get the odds, and
Speaker 2: then Dan Campbell obviously as well, right, like I think
Speaker 2: he's tied for the short shot. Now he's still up
Speaker 2: there though, and then like there are people going into
Speaker 2: last night's game that still thought like Jalen Hurts was
Speaker 2: gonna win MVP. He's not winning. No, damn MVP. Mike Alvarez.
Speaker 2: We love Mike. My uncut gems parlay went down to
Speaker 2: to my favorite team, he said, Jared Goff playing like
Speaker 2: crap and the cold check Jets outscore at least seventeen
Speaker 2: NFL teams, Check Raiders alt team total over a half
Speaker 2: a point X. I was gonna buy you and Kelly
Speaker 2: something real nice of it. Cash.
Speaker 3: We had we had Ben Ben and I live Ben
Speaker 3: Sunday yesterday. We're on opposite signs on that game. I
Speaker 3: had the fightings three, the Raiders plus three. We're all right,
Speaker 3: well buy the Crew Tree exact for whoever wins this kid.
Speaker 2: Did you think they were not gonna kick that field
Speaker 2: goal at the end. I thought they were gonna kick it.
Speaker 2: I had no problem with what they did though, right yeah,
Speaker 2: And I had betting wise. I got a two and
Speaker 2: a half on Saturday, so that was good. Norman Vegas
Speaker 2: Tennis in Vegas and Nadal and Alcaaz can play at
Speaker 2: Mandalay Bay. That's nice. Stephen Vegas saying about my Packers
Speaker 2: suggestion for the division, he goes go check out bam
Speaker 2: Soid for a better number. Tom Steffan agree with Kelly
Speaker 2: regarding tie versus win analytics, game flow, in game injuries,
Speaker 2: many other factors determined had to apply analytics and make
Speaker 2: best decisions for each specific game. I don't love the
Speaker 2: four to two in case I made myself. It didn't
Speaker 2: make myself clear like I get why they're telling you
Speaker 2: to do it. I don't like it nearly as much
Speaker 2: as the eight to six.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the agreements because I don't know that I
Speaker 3: made a lot of sense while talking.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you did either, A Joe named Jim.
Speaker 2: The way to get behind four to two, just mentally
Speaker 2: forget analytics is to look at it through the lens
Speaker 2: of it sets you up to win if and when
Speaker 2: the onside kick comes through in both scenarios you need
Speaker 2: it only win in one with the field goal. I
Speaker 2: do think I think I said that, Yeah, yeah, you did.
Speaker 2: I think that's what most people struggle with too.
Speaker 3: Whenever we have these conversations, it's all based around what's
Speaker 3: the best percentage to win to win in the end,
Speaker 3: in the end, whether it's regulated.
Speaker 2: Over win probability. Whereas your brain is wired to extend
Speaker 2: the game exactly, which, by the way, doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: wired wrong. In my opinion, Jude O'Connor, not sure if
Speaker 2: you already got to the Chiefs despite the controversial call.
Speaker 2: Can we just talk about how uncoachable Tony is. Football
Speaker 2: is a game of inches, but to stand a half
Speaker 2: foot off the ball won't lose your itch. We'll get
Speaker 2: into that momentarily. Zach and Cheese fully agree with you,
Speaker 2: suggesting Packers at nine to one to win the NFC
Speaker 2: North Gil I took them this past week at fourteen
Speaker 2: to one. If the Packers went out and the Lines lose,
Speaker 2: two more, Packers owned the breaker. Yes, I failed to
Speaker 2: mention that, Professor Shine, how can the pack win the
Speaker 2: NFC norths when they have to deal with Tommy Cutlets
Speaker 2: and a research in big Blue in North Jersey tonight?
Speaker 2: That's true, they lose that, that's out the window. Jesse Welch,
Speaker 2: I was thinking you guys would throw cold water on
Speaker 2: Flacco for comeback Player of the Year because I've been
Speaker 2: throwing twenty dollars bets at one hundred and one all morning.
Speaker 2: Now I think I need to put one more down.
Speaker 2: And Lawrence Carter gill good look at the Packers to
Speaker 2: win the NFC North ten to one at MGM this
Speaker 2: morning we'll read more tweets later. Let's get to it.
Speaker 2: What's next, Chiefs at Patriots, Chiefs at Patriots. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: that's a barn burner. Let's go back to the Patriots recap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: nothing happened to the Chiefs game Chiefs eight and five
Speaker 2: Patriots three. After that rousing win on Thursday, Chiefs against
Speaker 2: the Bills yesterday, game of the week. Build that way,
Speaker 2: it was all right. Opening drive casey second and five
Speaker 2: at the Buffalo thirty Mahomes picked on a tip ball
Speaker 2: by aj Avanessa. Buffalo can't capitalize, though team's trade punts.
Speaker 2: Buffalo goes fifty three yards, then six plays, Alan to
Speaker 2: James Cook from twenty five out, seven and nothing Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bills three forty three left first quarter after a CAC
Speaker 2: three and out. Buffalo then goes seventy three yards twelve plays,
Speaker 2: including a fourth and one of Kansas City fourteen Allen
Speaker 2: to Kincaid heavily improvised hookup for four two plays later,
Speaker 2: Allen in from six fourteen to nothing. Bills eleven thirty
Speaker 2: left second quarter after AKC punt, third and fourth their
Speaker 2: own forty three for Buffalo. Allen picked by Jamari Connor
Speaker 2: Casey set up at their own forty eight eight three
Speaker 2: thirty six pardon me leven the second quarter. Nine plays later,
Speaker 2: McKinnon in from seven one nineteen left. Second quarter, Buffalo
Speaker 2: has choose the bast sixty two yard field goal try
Speaker 2: a hail Mary incomplete, so there's your score at the half,
Speaker 2: fourteen to seven. Third quarter, Bass thirty one yard field
Speaker 2: goal makes it seventeen to seven. Then Kansas City nine
Speaker 2: play seventy five yards Mahomes to Rice from four out
Speaker 2: seventeen fourteen bills three thirty left. Third quarter, Buffalo three
Speaker 2: and out, Casey second and tend their own forty two
Speaker 2: mahomes to Rice hit by Christian Benford fumbles, Aaron Johnson
Speaker 2: recovers the cac forty eight thirty three seconds left. Third quarter,
Speaker 2: Then a Buffalo three and out, though Butcker twenty seven
Speaker 2: yard field well makes it seventeen seventeen eleven thirty one
Speaker 2: to go. We have an eleven and a half minute
Speaker 2: football game. Buffalo punts after an Allen to Murray twenty
Speaker 2: one yard gain where Allen was almost out of bounds
Speaker 2: when he threw it. Murray didn't appear to have established
Speaker 2: possession the fumble goes out of bounds before anyone recovered.
Speaker 2: That was a weird play. It didn't matter in the end,
Speaker 2: but I was like, how's that possession?
Speaker 3: It was an incredible play by Josh Allen that basically
Speaker 3: only Josh Allen can make for everybody that loves to
Speaker 3: crush him out there. Yes, I don't really, I still
Speaker 3: don't know what it catches.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no IDEA catch that certainly
Speaker 2: was not by anything I've ever seen before. Case three
Speaker 2: and out. Buffalo starts at their own thirty tai game
Speaker 2: six fifty seven to go, then matriculate after a Kansas
Speaker 2: City illegal contact. They end up with first and tenth
Speaker 2: Kansas City twenty two with two twelve to go. Kansas
Speaker 2: City has two timeouts and the two minute warning. So
Speaker 2: what is Buffer do? What's the optimal win probability way
Speaker 2: to play this? You run, You make Kansas City lose
Speaker 2: that use their timeouts, and the two minute warning will
Speaker 2: pass as well. You try to get the first down.
Speaker 2: If you do, you ice the football game with a
Speaker 2: chip shot field goal instead incomplete, incomplete two yard game,
Speaker 2: two minute warning. So Bass hits the thirty nine yard
Speaker 2: field goal to go up twenty to seventeen. But Kansas
Speaker 2: City now takes over with both of their timeouts still intact,
Speaker 2: both of the remaining timeouts. And here's the play that
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about. We get it, the one twenty five
Speaker 2: to go Kansas City, second and tend of the Buffalo
Speaker 2: forty nine, they're down three Mahomes to Kelsey flings it
Speaker 2: back to Rashi, excuse me to Kadarius Tony touchdown? Did
Speaker 2: Kelsey really just do that? Unbelievable greatest play I've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Ballsiest as Patrick Mahomes would call it. Later, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony lined up in the neutral zone. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: fourth and fifteen at their own forty six one on
Speaker 2: one to go my home incomplete, and the Bills win it.
Speaker 2: Mahomes twenty third in qbr on throws to wide receivers
Speaker 2: this year, twenty third out of thirty two starters. Now
Speaker 2: here's the thing. First of all, Dave Cluge, this is
Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony. This is a this is Adam Driver in
Speaker 2: a movie promo. That's what Kadarius to movies is from.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it from Star Wars Star Wars.
Speaker 2: I would never know that hosts, I would never know.
Speaker 2: That's like, I don't bet you kill us and know
Speaker 2: what this is from. We've never seen Patrick Mahomes angrier
Speaker 2: after a game. I thought he was screaming at Matt Naggy.
Speaker 2: At first, me too. I was like holding me too, yes,
Speaker 2: and then and then they were like, no, he's screaming
Speaker 2: at the refs. We see. We heard him say to
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, worst call ever, let us play, he said
Speaker 2: in the postgame presser. He had time to simmer down.
Speaker 2: He didn't let us play. Worst call I've ever seen
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Yeah, bashing the refs. We'll just say what
Speaker 2: Tim Hasselbeck said on SVP last night. Love Andy Reid,
Speaker 2: Love Patrick Mahomes. Youare the best quarterback maybe ever. Apologies,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, I get it, You're wrong, He's it is
Speaker 2: not the reference. It is not the official's job to
Speaker 2: tell Kadarius Tony that you're offside, and he was so
Speaker 2: clearly off size. And by the way, I also reject
Speaker 2: the notion in any sport that you call things differently
Speaker 2: at different times of gay. Yes, how that drives me crazy,
Speaker 2: just because it's the key play of the game versus
Speaker 2: something innocuous in the first quarter. It's still the rule.
Speaker 2: You're wrong. Buffalo wins at twenty to seventeen. Will talk
Speaker 2: more about this, including a bet despite everything I just
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Speaker 2: bar Canada at the d Back to that Chiefs game
Speaker 2: once again, and by the way, good on the Bills.
Speaker 2: I think I use the term sneaky freaky brother sneaking
Speaker 2: in from the rear to describe the Bills last week
Speaker 2: multiple times. Also said they're the team you do not
Speaker 2: want to let into the postseason because they would be live.
Speaker 2: I have a terrible exact price on a nine ers
Speaker 2: to beat Bill's Super Bowl. I had a twenty five
Speaker 2: to one before this game. You could have gotten it
Speaker 2: at eighty to one. But back to the Chiefs thing
Speaker 2: for a second, now, they're not right. Kadarius Tony could
Speaker 2: have checked with the officials. He didn't. It is not
Speaker 2: incumbent upon the officials to go out of their way
Speaker 2: to tell them he's offside, especially by the way, when
Speaker 2: it's not. Because we brought up the comparison with that
Speaker 2: Eagles off sides on offense yesterday in the touchbush, that's questionable.
Speaker 2: This wasn't questionable. Like his foot is past the ball,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. So you're answering the all twenty two video
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: He never checks over to the sideline, which those receivers
Speaker 3: can do all the time. Scheffer's talked about it a
Speaker 3: post game two They're like, hey, if we're asked about it.
Speaker 2: We help these players realign Yeah, never looked over, never
Speaker 2: went to check. And Mahomes can say, oh, I still
Speaker 2: want that play in my Hall of Fame induction speech,
Speaker 2: and he can say it's the basiest played. It was
Speaker 2: the balls. It was amazing, but it's a call. Now,
Speaker 2: all of that said, what else did we say on
Speaker 2: the show last week? Or what else did I say?
Speaker 2: I said, well, we were going over number one seeds.
Speaker 2: Kelly that the Chiefs were the best bet to get
Speaker 2: the number one seed, and I said, even if they
Speaker 2: lose to Buffalo, your strategy. If you think Buffalo's going
Speaker 2: to beat them, you should wait. We had this conversation
Speaker 2: on the show. The Chiefs are ten to one to
Speaker 2: get the number one seed in the AFC. Now let
Speaker 2: me just go through this with you. There are two
Speaker 2: games in the loss column behind both the Ravens and
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Baltimore's remaining schedule at Jacksonville at San Francisco Home,
Speaker 2: Miami home pit Miami's remaining schedule after tonight's game home
Speaker 2: against Tennessee home Jets, but then home Dallas at Baltimore
Speaker 2: home Buffalo, Kansas City's remaining schedule at New England home,
Speaker 2: Las Vegas home, Cincinnati at the Chargers, and by the way,
Speaker 2: they beat Jacksonville, they beat Miami head to heads, and
Speaker 2: they would have the best conference record, and they currently
Speaker 2: do of all these contenders with only two losses. Ten
Speaker 2: to one on the Chiefs. Think about how you feel
Speaker 2: about them right now that they lost this game, that
Speaker 2: they're whining about it, maybe they're Maybe how you feel
Speaker 2: about them is at a very low point. Ten to
Speaker 2: one to me, Kelly, based on what I just said
Speaker 2: right there is actually a pretty darn good bet. I
Speaker 2: like it too. I like it too, just because I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been saying it for weeks two. I don't know
Speaker 2: that I could fully trust that these were this Ravens
Speaker 2: or Dolphins team. I don't know that there's a pure
Speaker 2: great team right now in the AFC. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't hate that. Let's rifle through some of these, Okay.
Speaker 2: Next up, we have Falcons at Panthers. Falcons of Panthers Falcons.
Speaker 2: We talked about. They outgained the Bucks but lost Ridder
Speaker 2: twenty six of forty for three forty seven. Bra Vo
Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder one touchdown won't pick you a sack three times,
Speaker 2: touchdown on the ground. Drake London ten for one seventy two,
Speaker 2: including that amazing catch we described earlier. Out gain Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay four thirty forty two ninety and then Carolina. Bruh,
Speaker 2: they're one and twelve. Bryce Young thirteen of thirty six
Speaker 2: for one thirty seven, no touchdowns, no set, no picks,
Speaker 2: but he was sacked four times. He lost a fumble.
Speaker 2: They outgained New Orleans and defeat three oh three to
Speaker 2: two oh seven. I'll say Atlanta minus four and a
Speaker 2: half on the road. Uh, this is Atlanta minus three
Speaker 2: and they bet for me me too? Wow? Hold on
Speaker 2: a second, now, am I am? I in the very
Speaker 2: strange position of thinking the Falcons are better than the
Speaker 2: market does. This hasn't happened this year? Go with you many.
Speaker 2: I think I've bet the Falcons. I bet him two
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I think that was the first time this year.
Speaker 2: How many times have we come on this show and
Speaker 2: been like, boy, the market loves the Falcons. How are
Speaker 2: they only three here at Carolina? Yeah? I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I My guess was my guess would have been somewhere
Speaker 3: where you had it in the dead range.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's bad. That's I mean, you can't have it bed.
Speaker 2: You can't have Atlanta favored by by too many points,
Speaker 2: too many points just because they're they're gonna win by margin.
Speaker 2: Carolina is gonna show up one week, right, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they will. So bad, this is
Speaker 2: so bad? And what what's what? Like? What's the one
Speaker 2: thing that Landa does well? They run the ball? Well, okay,
Speaker 2: you're going up against the fourth worst rush defense over
Speaker 2: at Pro Football folds. I look at Landa. There, that's
Speaker 2: a bet. What's next? We have a bet, have a bet.
Speaker 2: Command are into the afternoon window now four oh five
Speaker 2: Eastern time. Commanders at Rams. Well, the commodoers were on
Speaker 2: a buy. Thankfully four and nine. They're at the six
Speaker 2: and seven Rams. The Rams lose to Baltimore in overtime,
Speaker 2: thirty seven to thirty one, after a Baltimore punt half
Speaker 2: as steal twenty seven yard field goal three to nothing. Rams.
Speaker 2: Subsequent trade of punts, first Intend the run forty six
Speaker 2: for Baltimore, Lamar to a wide open Isaiah likely for
Speaker 2: fifty four to seven to three Baltimore late first quarter.
Speaker 2: Then the Rams go seventy five yards. Seven plays Stafford
Speaker 2: a cup from six out ten to seven Rams, twelve
Speaker 2: one left second quarter. Then Baltimore goes seventy five yards
Speaker 2: and five plays Lamar to will wide open Obj for
Speaker 2: forty six. Makes a great adjustment on the ball, by
Speaker 2: the way, that was a second great adjustment to that
Speaker 2: point in the game. Fourteen to ten. Baltimore back and
Speaker 2: forth nine to forty left second quarter. Then the Rams
Speaker 2: go seventy five yards after they appeared to be stopped
Speaker 2: on a third on a three and out rather but
Speaker 2: Baltimore jumped off sides on a fourth and five at
Speaker 2: their own thirty the Ram zone. Thirty six plays later,
Speaker 2: Stafford Davis Allen. Davis Allen was everywhere yesterday. Have you
Speaker 2: met Davis Allen before? From seven out seventeen to fourteen Rams,
Speaker 2: five minutes left second quarter. This turned out to be
Speaker 2: the game of the day in the end. Then first
Speaker 2: play following drive, Lamar was picked by a Kello Witherspoon
Speaker 2: that led to a Haver six fifty one yard field
Speaker 2: goal twenty to fourteen Rams, one forty five left second quarter.
Speaker 2: Baltimore would answer with a Tucker thirty one yard field
Speaker 2: goals twenty to seventeen Rams at the half. Third quarter,
Speaker 2: Rams three and out Tucker forty seven yard field goal
Speaker 2: knots it up at twenty at piece ten oh two
Speaker 2: left third quarter, Then after a Rams punt, Baltimore thirty
Speaker 2: and five at their own fifteen. Lamar not ready for
Speaker 2: the snap, but goes by him into the end zone.
Speaker 2: He kicks it out the back safety twenty two to
Speaker 2: twenty Rams five point fifty two left third quarter, Rams
Speaker 2: punt Tucker thirty three yard field lit'll put the Ravens
Speaker 2: up twenty three to twenty two with eleven seventeen to go.
Speaker 2: Trade of three and outs, Rams go eighty five yards
Speaker 2: in eight plays. Ravens couldn't stopped him. Stafford to DeMarcus
Speaker 2: Robinson five out twenty eight twenty three Rams two point
Speaker 2: conversion fails four to forty one left. Baltimore than matriculates
Speaker 2: third and seventeen at the Rams twenty one Lamar de
Speaker 2: Ze touchdown man oh Man seventy five yard thirteen play
Speaker 2: drive two point conversion is a thirty one to twenty
Speaker 2: eight Baltimore one's sixteen to go. Stafford picks on Marlon
Speaker 2: Humphreys to Robinson for nineteen, then a cup for thirty four,
Speaker 2: already at the Baltimore twenty two. Two plays later, it
Speaker 2: looks like Humphrey's actually gonna pick it in the end zone.
Speaker 2: Robinson somehow breaks it up. Great play. Two plays later,
Speaker 2: half or sick, thirty six yard field goal. We're going
Speaker 2: over time, thirty one apiece over time, Baltimore three and out.
Speaker 2: Rams just need a field goal. They have a three
Speaker 2: and out. Then Ethan Evans punts it Tyland Wallace seventy
Speaker 2: six yards of the house, aided by perhaps I don't know,
Speaker 2: couple penalties minimum. No call that girl. I like the
Speaker 2: Kelly on Primetime Action What was as Matt would talk?
Speaker 2: What was your You and me had a running joke.
Speaker 2: We didn't care if we interrupted him. Were like, hey, Kelly,
Speaker 2: look they threw a flag on that return. Crazy. It
Speaker 2: happens all the time.
Speaker 3: I liked the replay with the I think it's a
Speaker 3: new tactic that they should pick up Gill because it's
Speaker 3: not a.
Speaker 2: Block in the back. If I'm just like twirling around
Speaker 2: like a child like whoa I can't control byse by
Speaker 2: the way, eight people had Baltimore in Survivor Who thirty
Speaker 2: seven thirty one Ravens win at Stafford twenty three or
Speaker 2: forty one for two ninety four, three touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 2: He was sacked twice Kyra Williams twenty five for one
Speaker 2: to fourteen Cup eight for one fifteen in a touchdown
Speaker 2: in defeat Rams two to one to make the playoffs. Kelly,
Speaker 2: that's a good bet, I think right at this moment again,
Speaker 2: with four games left in the season, now, for everybody,
Speaker 2: this is probably the last time we recommend. I recommended
Speaker 2: two division bets, Green Bay at nine to one in
Speaker 2: the NFC North Kansas City to one in the AFC West,
Speaker 2: the Rams at two to one to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The reason being, if you look at the NFC playoff
Speaker 2: picture right now, I'm sorry, second Kansas City to get
Speaker 2: the one Can't City get the one seed? Pardon me? Yes? Correct,
Speaker 2: thank you? Green Bay to win the division? Can City
Speaker 2: get the one seed? But the Rams to make the playoffs,
Speaker 2: they're on the outside looking in. The one team ahead
Speaker 2: of them is the Vikings at seven to six. That
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, Rams can't overcome them. And the other
Speaker 2: teams that are six and seven right now, with the
Speaker 2: Rams are the Falcons, the Saints, and the Seahawks. The
Speaker 2: rams remaining schedule, let me get that out right here,
Speaker 2: is favorable. The Rams remaining schedule, with the exception of
Speaker 2: one game at the end, which is against the Niners.
Speaker 2: But if you believe the Rams can go three and one,
Speaker 2: they're home Washington, home New Orleans at the Giants, then
Speaker 2: the at San Francisco. Maybe there's even a chance that
Speaker 2: San Francisco has locked up the number one seed. I
Speaker 2: doubt it, but maybe. But even if you think they're
Speaker 2: going three and one, you don't think a nine eight
Speaker 2: Rams team gets in I do. I like it two
Speaker 2: to one.
Speaker 3: We'll do some more, yes, nose tomorrow the AFC has jumbled, obviously,
Speaker 3: we'll talk more. I think I like that though, Rams
Speaker 3: minus seven hosting Washington minus six and a half.
Speaker 2: There are some sevens out there. I bet the Ovals game.
Speaker 2: Oh you did, it's a forty eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Look at you, Ben in total. Yeah, these two teams,
Speaker 2: I mean, this Rams offense. Man, when these guys, it's
Speaker 2: just amazing. When it's just it just feels like it's
Speaker 2: all Stafford cup Nikula, Kyraen Williams. That they are just fired.
Speaker 2: See that Casha man yesterday? Yeah, oh god, coming back.
Speaker 2: More games to get to, more value to be extracted numbers,
Speaker 2: game visa in these sports betting Network Kelly. After the
Speaker 2: show today, I am headed to the South Point, which
Speaker 2: I have not returned to since we left. I bought
Speaker 2: Chrissy my mishpocha. I bought him this Hnika manora maybe
Speaker 2: like four years ago, the most awesome menory you'll ever
Speaker 2: see in your life, you know what. I neglected to
Speaker 2: buy him. Also candles, candles that fit the manora. So
Speaker 2: I'm actually delivering candles to him that actually fit his
Speaker 2: manora right after the show today. Exciting, exciting trip to
Speaker 2: the South Point. I'm bit bag.
Speaker 3: I mean, I live right across the streets, so I've
Speaker 3: been in there a few times. The first time or
Speaker 3: two it's it's it's weird.
Speaker 2: Six and a half years I went there either once
Speaker 2: or twice a day. Yeah, I know, it's wild. A
Speaker 2: Joe named Jim we get tweets with regard to Stroud
Speaker 2: Purty also came back after being in protocol this year,
Speaker 2: referring to uh, yep, that was my bad. That is accurate.
Speaker 2: Pretty returned in a week. Yeah, Well, what I was
Speaker 2: saying was not that st I don't think Stroud's going
Speaker 2: to be out. What I'm saying is if he played
Speaker 2: that way, I guess what I was trying to.
Speaker 3: Express that he was talking about what I said with
Speaker 3: clearing the concussion protocol in a week's time, and they
Speaker 3: had only been done.
Speaker 2: It only been done by two guys, two guys. Pretty
Speaker 2: still minus a majillion to win Offensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 2: and justifiably so, just to follow Visen, the chargers are
Speaker 2: like a gold plated turd, but shaped like a bar
Speaker 2: of gold. You know it's not a gold bar, but
Speaker 2: it looks like a gold bar. Then you bet that
Speaker 2: it's a gold bar, even though you know what it is.
Speaker 2: I have the chargers, by the way, he says, so
Speaker 2: did I Three jackahs three one three one. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: a decent audio. The thing with the misheard quotes it
Speaker 2: cut out ont of me right as you name that
Speaker 2: sushi place. Also Karma biting the Chiefs back. Taylor already
Speaker 2: wrote that song, though Taylor Swift he's referring to nevade'ser
Speaker 2: Bad Look for the Whiney Chiefs. The NFL created this
Speaker 2: mess of Casey and titlement by how it allowed last
Speaker 2: year's AFC title game in Super Bowl to be officiated.
Speaker 2: When Patrick Mahomes says he believe players should decide the outcome,
Speaker 2: does he mean his players? Lol? On a week fifteen,
Speaker 2: Scott New York Mets sixteen the reason why I never
Speaker 2: miss a minute of a Numbers game quote let the
Speaker 2: players decide the game. Unquote they did by committing a
Speaker 2: penalty that the ref should call. Time of game does
Speaker 2: not matter. Thank you, Gil angriest guy in Kentucky. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was on my bike. Man. I made Joe Biden
Speaker 2: look like Lance Armstrong. He said, trust the glove misdirected anger.
Speaker 2: It takes many forms. However, I agree that Sean and
Speaker 2: Payton's are indeed pretenders. Said I'm angry about the Broncos.
Speaker 2: I'm not angry, Sumner Hutchinson. Yeah, but the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: minus two hundred to the under eleven and a half
Speaker 2: wins number one seed. It ain't happening. Well, Sumner, you
Speaker 2: heard my justification anymore, my reasoning for it. You can
Speaker 2: choose to follow if you like Brian m If you're
Speaker 2: going to bet on case to get the number one seed.
Speaker 2: Don't you wait until after tonight with the assumption Miami wins,
Speaker 2: then there are two teams two games clear of them.
Speaker 2: I think the assumption already based on the market, is
Speaker 2: that they will win, and so I don't think that
Speaker 2: you wait, actually, because if they win, it's not going
Speaker 2: to change the Chiefs market price. If they were to lose,
Speaker 2: you'll get a worse price. Does that make sense? I
Speaker 2: don't think you wait till after tonight's game. I think
Speaker 2: you're yeah, I think you're right. It would it be
Speaker 2: bett now because it's not gonna It wouldn't adjust much.
Speaker 2: Maybe it does a little bit, but not much incremental
Speaker 2: versus perhaps dramatically.
Speaker 3: Right, but your bet is in a much better position
Speaker 3: all of a sudden if they happen to lose.
Speaker 2: Correct, So yeah, I would bet it now. I'm with you,
Speaker 2: all right? What's next week at games?
Speaker 3: To get to Yeah, we do forty nine ers at
Speaker 3: Cardinals four or five, Easter.
Speaker 2: Ten and three nine ers three and ten Cardinals who
Speaker 2: were on a buy as well, only them in Washington
Speaker 2: were on a buy. Nobody with buys anymore. Everybody's on
Speaker 2: the same same level right now in terms of games played,
Speaker 2: thirteen games played. Niners first play against the Seahawks, McCaffrey
Speaker 2: for seventy two and Jordan Mason in for four seven
Speaker 2: and nothing Niners. Before you could blink, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the route is on, but no Seattle eight plays seventy
Speaker 2: five yards Drew Lock, who we learned just about an
Speaker 2: hour and a half before game time. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: Gino's not playing, it's gonna be Drew Lock locked to
Speaker 2: DK for thirty one, seven to seven, nine to forty
Speaker 2: four left. First quarter after San Francisco three and out,
Speaker 2: Seattle three nout, San Francisco three, now Meyers forty yard
Speaker 2: field goal, ten to seven Hawks, fifty two seconds left,
Speaker 2: first quarter. San Francisco first intent of the Seattle forty
Speaker 2: eight Perty picked off a tip that was intended by
Speaker 2: for Auk, bounced off Ayuk into Julian Love's hands, but
Speaker 2: then after Seattle punt they could not capitalize. San Francisco
Speaker 2: eighty three yards and five plays Perty to Debo for
Speaker 2: fifty four fourteen to ten, nine Ers eight eighteen left
Speaker 2: second quarter. Best team in football have been for a
Speaker 2: long time now. After Seattle punt fourth and two at
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty seven with five twenty three left,
Speaker 2: they decided they'd punt. You're playing the Niners, go for it,
Speaker 2: come on. Then San Francisco punt. Then San Francisco, having
Speaker 2: Seattle pinned all their timeouts, they decide they're like they're
Speaker 2: content to go to halftime, which I thought was very
Speaker 2: strange too on Kyle Shanahan's part. So it was like
Speaker 2: Carol and Shanahan just like hold my beer. Third quarter,
Speaker 2: it's still fourteen to ten at this point, Seattle three
Speaker 2: and out, San Francisco punt, Seattle punt. Then San Francisco's like, okay,
Speaker 2: enough of this. Seventy five yard seven plays book ended
Speaker 2: by perty Dayuk for forty five, debo in from one
Speaker 2: at the end twenty one to ten nine ers late
Speaker 2: third quarter, Then Seattle three plays seventy eight yards locked
Speaker 2: to Kolbe Parkinson for twenty five made it twenty one
Speaker 2: to sixteen. That two plays after an incredible lock to
Speaker 2: Walker twenty seven yard play in which Walker crossed the
Speaker 2: field from right to left after seemingly being hemmed in.
Speaker 2: Two point conversion failed though closing seconds of the third quarter,
Speaker 2: so it's twenty one to sixteen into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: then the Niners three plays seventy five yards just enough
Speaker 2: of that Purty to Debo for thirty two plays later
Speaker 2: to Kittle for forty four twenty eight to sixteen. First play,
Speaker 2: next drive, Lock would be picked by Jay R. Brown.
Speaker 2: Second play for the Niners. Second fourth thrown forty four
Speaker 2: Perty two. I Yuke for thirty one, but then uh
Speaker 2: Love slapped the ball down out of his arm. Fumbles.
Speaker 2: Reek Woolen recovered thirteen oh four to go trade of punts,
Speaker 2: then Drew Lock picked deep by Fred Warner. Dk Metcalf
Speaker 2: loses his mind. He gets tossed as this Lenoir Diamador
Speaker 2: San Francisco would run out the clock ball game Perty
Speaker 2: nineteen of twenty seven for three sixty eight two touchdowns
Speaker 2: one picky sack three times, McCaffrey sixteen for one forty
Speaker 2: five Debo seven for one forty nine touchdown, five hundred
Speaker 2: twenty seven total yards for the Niners. By the way,
Speaker 2: can we run that tweet about the Niners? This comes
Speaker 2: to us, I want to get the oh is Aaron
Speaker 2: Shotts sweet? That's right, Aaron Shotts will be on the
Speaker 2: show this week. The Niners are now the number five
Speaker 2: best team ever tracked by DVOA through thirteen games. The
Speaker 2: Ravens are the eleventh best team all time through thirteen games,
Speaker 2: despite in the Ravens case dropping a bit. This week
Speaker 2: not listed the nineteen eighty seven Niners because they only
Speaker 2: played twelve games in a strike year, but the Niners
Speaker 2: are the fifth best team ever by Aaron Shots Proprietary
Speaker 2: DVOA through thirteen games. The two thousand and seven Patriots
Speaker 2: and the ninety one Skins, the two greatest teams of
Speaker 2: all time Pick your team, are one and two. The
Speaker 2: Niners are fifth. Does your eye test corroborate that for
Speaker 2: both the Niners and the Ravens are one or the other,
Speaker 2: that they're in the top eleven more than Niners? For sure,
Speaker 2: I would believe I would agree with the Niners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'm still surprised by the way Ravens
Speaker 3: still hanging around in there, because remember he had them
Speaker 3: the best through like five games or Yeah, they were
Speaker 3: way up there early, So maybe some of that's just
Speaker 3: coming down from there.
Speaker 2: Well, remember with the Ravens, they blew out some teams
Speaker 2: that were thought to be good, right like Seattle Detroit.
Speaker 2: I don't know if those teams are as good as
Speaker 2: we thought they weren't. That right, it's the only thing
Speaker 2: but the Niners fifth best of all time at that point. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, so I'll say San Francisco minus ten
Speaker 2: and a half here on the road thirteen and a half.
Speaker 2: That feels a little high to that, I know.
Speaker 3: So this is what's getting tough with these games, right,
Speaker 3: because I almost did it yesterday too, where you're.
Speaker 2: Like, how much is too much? I didn't touch it,
Speaker 2: Like even when I doubt I'll touch this even though
Speaker 2: I think it's too this is the same thing. I
Speaker 2: didn't end up touching it. But I mean we were
Speaker 2: on the air yesterday, me and Bet.
Speaker 3: I'm like fifteen points, Like this is a lie that
Speaker 3: you're that you're giving Seattle and then the same thing
Speaker 3: you're Arizona at home. I bet you this only goes
Speaker 3: one way. I bet you're going to see fourteen here,
Speaker 3: and I bet you I'm still not going to bet it.
Speaker 3: One thing that never happens on the show. I was
Speaker 3: going back. I was like, Okay, what do I like
Speaker 3: best betting wise?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, I like Atlanta at Carolina, I
Speaker 2: like Green Bay. I think is assuming nothing happens bad
Speaker 2: tonight to them. Injury wise, I like Green Bay. And
Speaker 2: then I was like, what was the Kansas City? What
Speaker 2: was the Kansas City line? And then we both started laughing.
Speaker 2: We're like, I don't think I ever guess, never guessed
Speaker 2: the line. Kansas City minus seven and a half at
Speaker 2: New England.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're low there too. It's nine and a half
Speaker 3: even ten some places.
Speaker 2: Now. I think if it's below ten, I might take
Speaker 2: Kansas City, even though my guess is low. I think
Speaker 2: I like Kansas Yeah, I was hoping.
Speaker 3: I was hoping it'd be a little lower for a
Speaker 3: teaser possibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ain't going there. It's only gonna go one way,
Speaker 2: all right. By the way, Perty, just before we get
Speaker 2: to the last games on the other side, Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: after last night is the MVP short shot, Perty is second.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Yeah? Yeah, but I think
Speaker 2: those two are neck and neck. I'll just say this
Speaker 2: and again full disclosure. I have a Rock Party ticket.
Speaker 2: I do not have a DAC ticket. But the Cowboys
Speaker 2: schedule is such that Purty's got to be the fit. Like,
Speaker 2: if you're betting right now, you shouldn't be betting dak
Speaker 2: to me, I don't disagree with you. I'm not so
Speaker 2: sure you'd be betting Purtty at this price either, but
Speaker 2: if you had to bet one of them, it should
Speaker 2: be pretty based on the remaining schedule. Because the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: I think it is more likely that he ends up
Speaker 2: winning it. Yes I do. I agree with Dakne the
Speaker 2: favorite though right now, Yes I do. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what It's going to be interesting when we do our
Speaker 2: power rankings tomorrow. I think this is the first time
Speaker 2: this year where there are going to be some major changes,
Speaker 2: not at one and two but after that. Yeah, which
Speaker 2: which has been pretty steadfast as some combination of Chiefs
Speaker 2: and Eagles to this point. Boy, Eagles have problems and
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are just not as good as they were.
Speaker 2: They could still be the number one seed. That's the
Speaker 2: conundrum of all this. For issue Spence Wild the receiver.
Speaker 2: The receiver's just terrible. It's terrible. How about Romo saying
Speaker 2: it out loud? He's like, can they cost their team
Speaker 2: games more ways than they do? We'll finish it up
Speaker 2: more games. Get to next.
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Speaker 2: Shotts list of best teams through thirteen weeks in DVO
Speaker 2: eight goes. The number four team on that list was
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety eight thirteen in Obroncos. They came into
Speaker 2: the Giant, came into Giants Stadium and lost as thirteen
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites to ken To Graham and
Speaker 2: the g men any given Sunday for sure. By the way,
Speaker 2: A couple thought exercises this from Michael Manisano. I think
Speaker 2: there's a great hypothetically says, if Stroud doesn't play the
Speaker 2: rest of the year, does he still win Offensive Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year? Great question. I'm gonna say no, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go cop out answer. It depends on what
Speaker 2: others do. Most notably Puka Ku is other one. When
Speaker 2: people agree that Dak should be the favorite for MVP,
Speaker 2: what is the one statter thing that makes him the
Speaker 2: favorite over Purdy? His implication there being there ain't none.
Speaker 2: S want to point that out, all right? Next or
Speaker 2: twenty five Eastern Cowboys that Bills last game we didn't
Speaker 2: give the last game that we haven't really described. Dallas
Speaker 2: crushes Philly last night, the ten and three Cowboys at
Speaker 2: the seven and six Bills. What a game? This is?
Speaker 2: Oh implicaziones. I don't know if that was Italian. Dallas
Speaker 2: ten plays, seventy five yards Dak to Lamb from thirteen
Speaker 2: out seven to nothing, Cowboys ten minutes left, first quarter,
Speaker 2: Philly first and twenty at Dallas thirty one. Hurts stripped
Speaker 2: by Donovan Wilson, who recovers it as well. Five point
Speaker 2: forty two left the first quarter. Dallas fourth and two
Speaker 2: at the Philly forty four polloed for four, then they
Speaker 2: settle for an Aubrey sixty yard field goal ten to nothing. Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is he doing? Oh? That was a
Speaker 2: great call, dude, that this kid is incredible. This kid
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Ellie at fifty two yard field go after
Speaker 2: a fake pun extent of the drive, but aj Brown
Speaker 2: couldn't haul in a Hurtz pass that went right through
Speaker 2: his hands on the play before, so that made it
Speaker 2: ten to three. Dallas started their own twenty five seventy
Speaker 2: five yards twelve plays dowble in from one seven to
Speaker 2: seventeen to three, Dallas six to fourteen left second quarter,
Speaker 2: Elliott forty four yard field going to make it seventeen
Speaker 2: to six, but then Dallas eight plays seventy five yards
Speaker 2: Dack to gallop for one out twenty four to six
Speaker 2: of the half. Kelly, Philly not only looked slower than
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, which we probably expected, but they just looked
Speaker 2: like they had no energy. Yeah none. Dallas looked like
Speaker 2: I had so much more than them. Philly third quarter,
Speaker 2: first and ten, their own forty nine hurts to aj Brown,
Speaker 2: Gilmour strips Brown, Timon Clark recovers a couple three and outs.
Speaker 2: Dallas third and ten their own forty five Dak hit
Speaker 2: by Flesher Cox fumbles Jalen Carter scoop and score the
Speaker 2: only Philly highlight of the night to make it twenty
Speaker 2: four to thirteen. But it was short lived because then
Speaker 2: Aubrey hits a fifty nine yard field goal to make
Speaker 2: it twenty seven to thirteen. He's the first player in
Speaker 2: history to make two field goals of fifty nine or
Speaker 2: more in a game. I did not know that really
Speaker 2: until they said it. Wow last night, Perfect on the year.
Speaker 3: My favorite tweet I saw all weekend that was that
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly was so bad, such a bad coach at
Speaker 3: Notre Dame that he didn't even figure out that the
Speaker 3: best football player was playing the wrong sport.
Speaker 2: So true, so true. By the way, Aubrey then hits
Speaker 2: a forty five yarder, he hits another one from fifty.
Speaker 2: He's thirty for thirty lifetime. It's wild. Let me just
Speaker 2: give you if they roll about there right like that
Speaker 2: second one they Rolledhi out there. I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: this is kind of aggressive, But nope, no problem. No,
Speaker 2: let me just give you historical context. When Mark Moseley
Speaker 2: won the NFL MVP in nineteen hundred and eighty two
Speaker 2: in a strike shortened year. Yes, a kicker won MVP
Speaker 2: for Washington. He hit a unheard of twenty seven kicks
Speaker 2: in a row, twenty seven field goals in a row.
Speaker 2: These guys do that all the time. Now this dude
Speaker 2: starts his career with thirty in a row and their missiles. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: it's incredible. I mean, you were neither one of those
Speaker 2: last night? Were you concerned about the long one day?
Speaker 2: Were Dalla up? Dallas wins this game thirty three to thirteen.
Speaker 2: Philly doesn't score an offensive touchdoup for the first time
Speaker 2: since the Wildcard game in twenty nineteen. Dak twenty four
Speaker 2: twenty four of thirty nine for two to seventy one.
Speaker 2: Eight straight home games for the Cowboys with thirty plus points,
Speaker 2: and we already talked about the Bills in victory Josh
Speaker 2: Allen twenty three or forty two for two thirty three
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs, James Cook was all over the box
Speaker 2: score ten of fifty eight, ten four to fifty eight.
Speaker 2: I should say in the ground game five catches for
Speaker 2: eighty three yards and a touchdown. I will say all
Speaker 2: that said, Buffalo minus two and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this kind of just reopened here a little bit ago.
Speaker 3: We're one and a half at DraftKings. A lot of
Speaker 3: two's out there though. On Buffalo Buffalo minus two.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm playing Buffalo. I think I'm
Speaker 2: playing Buffalo, babe. Yeah, that line's interesting to me. I
Speaker 2: think I think that's pretty spot on to me. Okay,
Speaker 2: Sunday Night is the best Dallas team in a long time. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 2: they are playing very very good football right Sunday Night.
Speaker 2: Ravens at Jaguars ten and three Ravens eight and five Jaguars.
Speaker 2: This also has implications. Baltimore Lamar in victory was twenty
Speaker 2: four forty three for three sixteen, three touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 2: He was sacked twice eleven carries for seventy obj four
Speaker 2: for ninety seven in a touch eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: nine total yards of offense in that game against the
Speaker 2: Rams for both teams. Trevor Lawrence in defeat against the
Speaker 2: Browns twenty eight to fifty for two to fifty seven,
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, three picks, four sacks. Baltimore by three on
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 3: That's where it opened. We're up to three and a
Speaker 3: half everywhere now in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Ah damn Yeah. Monday Night Eagles at Seahawks. By the way,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, Kelly, that game's
Speaker 2: in Duval County. What was the Monday night game? It's
Speaker 2: Eagles and Seahawks ten and three Eagles six and seven Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Seahawks on life support Hertz yesterday in defeat, eighteen of
Speaker 2: twenty seven for one to ninety seventy lost to fumble.
Speaker 2: By the way, do you know the Eagles defense is
Speaker 2: last in pressure rate since thereby and last in third
Speaker 2: down defense. They can't get anybody off the field Seattle.
Speaker 2: Drew Locke was pretty good yesterday, twenty two of thirty
Speaker 2: one for two sixty nine, two touchdowns, two picks. He
Speaker 2: was sacked four times, but they gave up five hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty seven totally yards to the Niners. I'll say
Speaker 2: the Eagles by four on the road, three and a half.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's what we're looking at, which is kind
Speaker 2: of interesting.
Speaker 3: I want to I'm interested to see where that line
Speaker 3: moves throughout the week.
Speaker 2: All right, So I this is it's not a it's
Speaker 2: not a week I love, It's not a week I
Speaker 2: hate it somewhere in between. But I do like the Falcons.
Speaker 2: I think I like the Bills not as much as
Speaker 2: the Falcons, but the Falcons is the one that clearly
Speaker 2: jumps off the base. And I think Green Bay, to me,
Speaker 2: assuming no injury tonight, sort of jumps off the page
Speaker 2: hosting Tampa Bay now considering how good they've looked the
Speaker 2: past two weeks, Green Bay, do you need to see
Speaker 2: them crush the Giants tonight or any kind of win
Speaker 2: you think? No, I just need to see Jordan Love
Speaker 2: be as good as he's been. They win by ten
Speaker 2: and he looks great. I'm good with it, gotcha. I
Speaker 2: mean as a road primetime game, I don't expect them
Speaker 2: to win by twenty, but I do want them to
Speaker 2: cover in millions For me, Yeah, I mean, they've looked
Speaker 2: so good the past two weeks.
Speaker 3: I think I'm like, I'm expecting some kind of regression
Speaker 3: at some point, but like, man, I don't know, Maybe
Speaker 3: there's just just they're just this team that took this
Speaker 3: long to get this hot.
Speaker 2: And good luck to the to the seven survivors who
Speaker 2: have the Packers tonight and the one who has the Dolphins. Again,
Speaker 2: we'll start, we'll finish the show we started, which is
Speaker 2: there are twenty one entries left in Survivor eight pending tonight. Wait,
Speaker 2: how does that make sense? Eight penning tonight? Maybe I
Speaker 2: have the math wrong. There's seven Packers, there's one Dolphins.
Speaker 2: That's eight. That's eight. I got that part right. But
Speaker 2: also the Lions lost, So there's twenty one currently. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's twenty one currently, but eight pending tonight. That's right,
Speaker 2: twenty one currently but eight penning tonight. So either twenty
Speaker 2: one get through anywhere between thirteen to twenty one get
Speaker 2: through tonight. Right now, with twenty one left each remaining
Speaker 2: entry four hundred and forty one two hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: five dollars and seventy one cents. Oh boy, you know
Speaker 2: what I'd like to do this week? I'd like to
Speaker 2: get Joe Pete in here to talk Survivor and how
Speaker 2: really in terms of his hedging theory, but also like
Speaker 2: when we talk about optimal picks. This is from a
Speaker 2: Wall Street guy who has been in many a viral
Speaker 2: contest what was the way to play this this week?
Speaker 2: Because one could argue that the way to play it
Speaker 2: was to take one of the games tonight, so that
Speaker 2: you would have had perfect information in terms of thinking
Speaker 2: of a hedge, right, so everybody else would have had.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's thing play out. Imagine if there
Speaker 2: was only a handful of entries left, but seven people
Speaker 2: ended up with a packer. So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 2: see what happens tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how much of that came into their thinking, right,
Speaker 3: If I'm thinking that maybe others a thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a whole bunch of that. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of Princess Bride in there. You think that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take it like this? You know that I think that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of that, or people just don't think
Speaker 2: of these things at all, and they just thought like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this team. Good luck to everybody. Adam Burke, congratulations,
Speaker 2: VSA Zone, he's already through. I don't know about our guy, Jonesy.
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out about that. Da Bagdad Bada, the
Speaker 2: Fat bandag,