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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody.

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Speaker 2: We've got a great pod today as we headed to

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekend. We're gonna talk Jets, broadcasting playoffs in

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Speaker 2: several sports with the Voice of the Jets, Bob was

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Speaker 2: shoosing OTAs of course, started here this week in Florence Park,

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Speaker 2: and we're also gonna dive into what happened at the

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Speaker 2: NFL lead meetings in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: We meet anybody in the world, and I think we're

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Speaker 3: gonna win. Next Sunday Gets Wonders. Can't wait. Put your

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Speaker 1: Shows. Great to see you, buddy, Glad to be here. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what were your expectations.

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Speaker 2: Let's go in a time machine right now, back to

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Speaker 2: two thousand and two when you were applying to be

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Speaker 2: the guy, the voice of the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, there was some drama back then. You know

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Speaker 3: that not everybody knows about almost didn't get the job.

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Speaker 3: It was written in the paper that somebody else got

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Speaker 3: the job. But hung in there, and you know, I

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Speaker 3: mean I was just making my way, still trying to

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Speaker 3: kind of find a lane in New York that was mine, right,

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Speaker 3: Like every job that I had had, I was kind

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Speaker 3: of backing up other people, filling in over here as

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Speaker 3: a jack of all trades at WFAN and then I

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Speaker 3: was at MSG. You know, anybody that missed for play

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Speaker 3: it was because I was filling in for someone on

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Speaker 3: their job. It wasn't my job. So this was the

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Speaker 3: first time that and you know, credit very much back

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Speaker 3: then to Bob Parente, Terry Bradway, like those guys were

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Speaker 3: probably more than anyone the ones that pushed it across

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Speaker 3: the finish line on my behalf. They were the first

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Speaker 3: to offer me a job that was mine. Right, this

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Speaker 3: is your gig and you're gonna be identified with us.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad it worked out because I mean it's

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Speaker 3: thirty years now, right, My first year of covering the

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Speaker 3: team was ninety six. That's that's year two of co

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Speaker 3: Tite and now we're twenty twenty five, so all in,

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Speaker 3: that's thirty years of being around the Jets on basically

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Speaker 2: So that was a different role back then in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two. What was the reaction, What was the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. I don't even know if any

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, it was it was interesting. I remember

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Speaker 3: of fact, we had been given the job, And ironically enough,

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Speaker 3: I saw that the exact same day I was going

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Speaker 3: Terry Bradway. So I wrote out there thinking that this

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Speaker 3: I've been the backup guy for three or four years now.

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Speaker 3: If I don't get the job, I'm done. Well. He

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Speaker 3: And he's like, what are you talking about? I said, well,

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Speaker 1: Out all right.

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Speaker 2: Some play by play guys they grow up in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: In San Francisco. But you are a local guy.

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Speaker 2: How significant was it to you and is it to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it matters to me to be identified with something

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Speaker 3: in all of those buildings and it's amazing. Even last

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Speaker 3: me being a New York area guy. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: If I told you in O two that you were

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Speaker 2: I don't have the list in front of me, but

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Speaker 2: what would you have said.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a good question. I was just

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this for fifteen years. Okay, great. I

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Speaker 3: You know them all. So it's always fun, no matter

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Speaker 3: So I never really thought of it in terms of,

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Speaker 3: Like there's a handful of other guys out there that

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Speaker 2: What's the approach painting the picture for Jets fans? Because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate anyone that does that. Obviously, there's

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Speaker 3: So a lot of times, you know, on TV, my

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Speaker 3: you can't do that. I mean, obviously radio you are

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Speaker 2: You've been connected to the Jets since nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched all the press conferences and listen to

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Speaker 3: want to hear, right, Like, if this matters to him

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Speaker 3: being here, matters to him being asked to come back

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Speaker 3: They're really into foundationally putting a team together that hopefully

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Speaker 2: I thought this quote was particularly particularly impactful. He said

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Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I wouldn't necessarily want to

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Speaker 2: Speaking of buy in the Jets exercise or fifth year options.

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Speaker 3: And I remember so many offseasons with the Jets, one

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent participation here and it's a voluntary This

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Speaker 3: and they certainly showed this to you with what they

436
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: did in the first round of the draft, drafting you know,

437
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: Membo would right tackle. It almost seems to me like

438
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: they are envisioning a team that can insulate him for

439
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: some success, the same way that the last time that

440
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: Jets were really good, they insulated Mark Sanchez right Like

441
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez was behind a brick wall of an offensive line.

442
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: He had Thomas Jones and Ladanien Tomlinson, you know, Sean Green,

443
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: guys you could hand the ball to. They had certainly

444
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: good enough skill position players, maybe not quite as part

445
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: of me as good as Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson,

446
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: but very good skill position players and a really really

447
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: good defense. And that to me kind of describes what

448
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 3: they're doing with this team, right, like, build a big

449
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: offensive line in front of him. You've got three running backs,

450
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: any one of which could carry the ball twenty five

451
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: times in a game, and you'd probably think we could

452
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: develop a game plan with that guy carrying at twenty

453
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: five times and go win. And they've got three of them.

454
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: Drafting him a tight end drafting him a wide receiver.

455
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: You know, it seems like they're putting, you know, kind

456
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: of building a fort around him and saying, look that

457
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: you don't have to go out there and be, you know,

458
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: a world beater like you can be a guy that

459
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: leans on his running game, leans on his offensive line,

460
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: sets up play action, uses your own legs to go

461
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: make a play once in a while, and we've seen

462
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 3: that have success here. And for a guy that you know,

463
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: probably feels like first couple of teams that had him

464
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: quit on him, I don't know what his confidence level is.

465
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: And when he gets punched in the mouth the first

466
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, which is gonna happen, It happens to everybody.

467
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: You know, is he gonna be the most confident quarterback

468
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: in the world or is he gonna have to grow

469
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: that confidence back? Well, they've now given him team where

470
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: you probably can grow that confidence back with this group,

471
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 3: as opposed to you know, having to bring you know,

472
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: like an Aaron Rodgers in and basically saying all right,

473
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: this is your show, this is all about you, This

474
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: is all about where you want to go with the ball.

475
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: The whole offense basically just runs through your right arm,

476
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: and that's going to be what judges our success or failure.

477
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: And that's not the way it is, I would think

478
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: with this group at all, you know, So I'll be

479
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: optimistic that they're at least setting the table for Justin

480
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: Fields to have a chance to succeed. I'll be as

481
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 3: interested as anybody to see how he does early on.

482
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: I think it's conceivable, Shoes that the Jets can go

483
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: from thirty second, dead last International Football League and rush

484
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: attempts to.

485
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: Top ten, maybe top five Russia.

486
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: If you're playing to your strengths and those three running

487
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: backs right, and you can lean on your run game

488
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: and protect your quarterback and allow him to kind of

489
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: grow back into himself as a confident player. Yes, you know.

490
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean, look, they had a terrific running game with

491
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Najie Harris and Pittsburgh. They leaned on that and he

492
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: went out there and won a bunch of games until

493
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson took over. There was a quarterback controversy. We

494
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: were there when Russell Wilson first came out to be

495
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback. It was either that week or the week

496
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: before they played the Jets. They won the game and

497
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 3: the Jets had a couple of really bad turnovers that

498
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: helped Pittsburgh win the game, But the first three or

499
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: four possessions, the crowd was booing Russell Wilson, I mean

500
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: booing him off the field because the Jets were creating

501
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: three and outs and he had just recently taken over

502
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: for a quarterback that was four or five games over

503
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: five hundred and Steeler fans are sitting there going, we're

504
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: six and seven and two whatever we are, why did

505
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: we make a quarterback change? Well, justin fields was that quarterback.

506
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: So just as recently as last year, he lost his job,

507
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: but he wasn't playing badly when he lost it. The

508
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: team was winning when he lost it. So maybe at

509
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: least he brings that confidence into this year with the Jets.

510
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: I certainly see the parcels imprint on ag in terms

511
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: of being tough, went into the line of scrimmage, running

512
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: the football, playing strong defense, and then the emphasis on

513
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: special teams.

514
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna see that throughout the year. There's no doubt

515
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: about that.

516
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I mean he's there's a reason that

517
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, certain coaches of the coaching tree and the

518
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: players that played for them. Yeah, then mirror the you know,

519
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: the attitude that those guys had, and that you can

520
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: hear a lot of that in Aaron Glenn.

521
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: I agree, all right, So quickly, let's do something we

522
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: like to call hear me out.

523
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: These are quick opinions.

524
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: And for this week, we're going to go to Minnesota,

525
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: where the NFL held its annual spring meetings.

526
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: Okay, shoes. The NFL.

527
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: Up for debate was the tush push, the elimination of

528
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: the tush push.

529
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Where did you stand on that?

530
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: And are you surprised that the tush push lives on?

531
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm gonna get myself into trouble here. I don't

532
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: know where the Jets one of the teams I think

533
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: they were that voted in favor of keeping it right.

534
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: According to ESPN, NFL and Sienter Adam Schefter, the Jets

535
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: voted to keep it.

536
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So regardless of whether the Jets voted to keep

537
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: it or not, maybe I won't get myself in trouble

538
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: if they are a team that voted to keep it,

539
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: although I don't know how they voted myself. To me,

540
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: like football has its roots and its DNA, I guess

541
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: probably in rugby more than any other sport, right, I mean,

542
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: it's a certain number of people on each side of

543
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: a line of scrimmage, the ball's in the middle, and

544
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: it's a massive humanity and who can beat each other

545
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: at that line of scrimmage? And this play, to me,

546
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: seems to kind of be rooted in that tradition as

547
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: much as any other play in football. And to me,

548
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: it's kind of a basic question of like, you can't

549
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: stop it, tough, keep us out of third and one,

550
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: keep us out of fourth and one, and then when

551
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: we get the third and one or fourth and one,

552
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: figure out how to stop it. And to me, that's it,

553
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: Like what what are they doing that isn't not only

554
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: you know, legal in today's rules, but also almost kind

555
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: of rooted in like you know, the the DNA or

556
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: the you know, the prehistoric version of what we know

557
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: is modern day football. This this is like as far

558
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: back as you're going to go, when dinosaurs were ruining

559
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: the earth and football was being played, they ran plays

560
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: like this, And so you're aligned to be you know,

561
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 3: some manhood to get up there and stop it. You

562
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: can't stop it. That's not our fault. And so I

563
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: have no problem with the touchbush staying in the game.

564
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: The voice of the Jets aligns with the Jets on

565
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: this one. Huh, all right, Yes, I knew.

566
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: I you know, I didn't know for sure if I did,

567
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: but I guess I was afraid I was going to

568
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: get that opinion and find out that the Jets are

569
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: one of the teams that voted to get rid of that,

570
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: and maybe they would yell at me for having my opinion,

571
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: but you know that's my opinion. Figure out how to

572
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: stop it.

573
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So the Lions removed this proposal where they

574
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: wanted to say reseting in terms of the playoffs because

575
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: last year's examples was that people talk about was Detroit

576
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: and Minnesota. They played that final game in the regular

577
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 2: season that was for the NFC North title. Minnesota loses

578
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: that game, they finished fourteen to three. They open up

579
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: on the road in the postseason. The owners actually didn't

580
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: vote on this one. But do you think that wildcard

581
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: teams who had better records than division winners should be

582
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: seated higher?

583
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I've always thought this, and I think

584
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: that there might be like ways to put this in,

585
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: but it's a little off the wall. I do think

586
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: you can make an argument that for fairness sake, a

587
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: division winner shouldn't get a home game, but only if

588
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: there are some like tiebreakers involved, as in, you're a

589
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: second place team in your division and your record is

590
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: at least three or four wins better than a division champion,

591
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: or a division champion's below five hundred like something like that.

592
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: But to me, if you just blanket say we're just

593
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: gonna seed it by record, you're gonna open up just

594
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: as many problems going in the opposite direction than you

595
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: have now. So you're gonna have situations, as you said, now,

596
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a division winner that's like nine and

597
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: eight or ten and seven, and there's gonna be a

598
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: team that's fourteen and three and somehow they end up

599
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: in you know, second place, so they lose a head

600
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: to head game with another fourteen and three team, lose

601
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: a tiebreaker there on the road. Is that fair? No?

602
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: Is it also unfair though, where there's a division where

603
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: everybody looks at that division and knows, oh, come on, right,

604
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: like three of the worst five teams in the league

605
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: are in said division, and the team that wins that division,

606
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: like for many years the Patriots in the AFC East, right,

607
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: like they just rolled out of bed and they had

608
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: seven wins out of the eight games, if not eight

609
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: right on the docket, you know, like that that can

610
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: throw things out of whack in terms of fairness too.

611
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I do think that there should

612
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: be a reward for winning your division. I think they

613
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: should still keep the integrity of that in place, but

614
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: maybe if they came up with some benchmarks that you

615
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: had to hit that was so out of whack to

616
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: create some fairness. But I would lean towards keeping it

617
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: the way. It isn't rewarding a team for winning their

618
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: division if they're not going to make a change.

619
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: All right.

620
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: But what I'm hearing from you, I think potentially is

621
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: down the line, you wouldn't mind seeing, Hey, listen, if

622
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: you win the division, but maybe you're under five hundred,

623
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: you're not hosting a playoffs.

624
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have a problem if they came up with

625
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: some of those I mean, you know, when we get

626
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: to like the last two or three weeks of the

627
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: season and they put up the NFL tiebreakers for who's

628
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: going to make the postseason, I mean, my god, there's

629
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: like it's like, you know, like code for a computer

630
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: like you can't even keep up with it because there's

631
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: so many machinations. What's a couple. More So, like what

632
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: I would add to the tiebreaker perspective is I would say,

633
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: if you were a division winner, but you're below five hundred,

634
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: or if there's a two seed out of a division

635
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: and that two seed has won say three or four

636
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: games more than a division winner, then I would take

637
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: that team and put it above any division winner that

638
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: they have, you know, gone past, in terms of like

639
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: a gap of wins. I think you could do something

640
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: like that if you wanted to try to, Like what

641
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do is thread the needle. I'm trying

642
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: to keep the perspective of the importance of winning your

643
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: own division and some kind of a reward for that,

644
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: but also having maybe a fail safe in place when

645
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: they're there's a year where a division winner is just

646
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: so obviously weak and undeserving of a home game and

647
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: a top three or top four seed, that you've got

648
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: a mechanism in place to make sure that somebody doesn't

649
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: get screwed. That's all. But if you just make it

650
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: purely based on record, you're absolutely going to get some

651
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: teams that are gonna have an unfair advantage because they

652
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: might be in a weak division and a team might like,

653
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: right now, regardless of what your record is, if you

654
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: win the AFC West, you're good. Like you're a good team, right,

655
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: there's some really good teams in the AFC West, and

656
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: if you win that division, you deserve a home game.

657
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: I don't care what your record is, right, Like you

658
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: obviously had to run kind of a gauntlet. You can

659
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: absolutely come up with a way to penalize a team

660
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: for winning a division that's really competitive if you're not careful.

661
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I would want to guard against.

662
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break.

663
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna come back and talk playoffs and big moments shows.

664
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: Do you wake up sometimes during the spring and wonder

665
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: where the hell you are?

666
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

667
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: I do.

668
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Uh A lot of times it's like what day is it?

669
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: That Also a lot of times I'll be Saturday, I'll

670
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: think it's Wednesday. I'll think I have to call home

671
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: and talk to the kel. Wait a minut the kids

672
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: are in school, like I I'm You know, you not

673
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: only forget where you are, but you forget what day

674
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: of the week it is because it all does run together.

675
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: And you feel sometimes when you're at the airport you

676
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: are actually part of the movie.

677
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Maybe a sequel to Up in the Air.

678
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, like with George, Yeah, with uh and also with

679
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: you know, rest in peace, wishes to the great George

680
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: went and just recently passed away from Cheers. I feel

681
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 3: like norm like walking into Cheers. Sometimes when I walk

682
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: into Newark Airport, people see me, like the TSA. Sometimes

683
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: they recognize me. I'm like, oh, that's not good. If

684
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: TSA recognizes you, that's you're here way too much. And

685
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: these days just escaping Newark Airport is a challenge in

686
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: and of itself. Beyond the games are getting to where

687
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm going fair enough.

688
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: Well, you're back in Jersey now. We're happy to see it, Bag,

689
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: We're happy to see. What was the experience, Like, how

690
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: would you sum up the Stanley Cup playoffs? And I

691
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: really want to emphasize here Game six, your tremendous call

692
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: of another Jets team, the Winnipeg Jets against the Dallas Stars,

693
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: and the confluence of events there.

694
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it started with me having almost like a little

695
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: bit of a schizophrenic experience as a broadcaster, because on

696
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: one hand, I've got a team named the Jets trying

697
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: to win a playoff game. Their opponent was wearing green

698
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: and white. I know it was like all kinds of

699
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: worlds colliding, but yeah, Mark, for folks that didn't know that,

700
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: a career Jet and I say career Jet meaning creer

701
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: Winnipeg Jets since their most recent incarnation of the Winnipeg Jets,

702
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 3: what I'd like to move back to Winnipeg. Their first

703
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: draft choice was a guy named Mark Shiflee. And Mark

704
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: Schiflee was to the Winnipeg Jets, or is what guys

705
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: like Nick Mangold and to Brickashaw Ferguson and you know,

706
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: like guys like that are to the Jets right like

707
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: a legitimate career. You hope Garret Wilson and Sauce Gardner

708
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: and Breiese Hall are going to be guys that will

709
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: play their whole career with the Jets. With Winnipeg, Mark

710
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: Schiflee was an unrestricted free agent. The worst kept secret

711
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 3: in the NHL is nobody wants to play in Winnipeg.

712
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: And he re signed to stay in Winnipeg because it

713
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: mattered to him, same way it matters to Aaron Glenn

714
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: to come back to the New York Jets, right, it's

715
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: in his DNA. He's invested. And then his father passed

716
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: away overnight before game six, and he was told that

717
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: in the morning in Dallas, and we got to the

718
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: rink on you know, for the morning skates, and we

719
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: were told, we don't even know if he's gonna play,

720
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: and what decision could possibly be the wrong decision. I mean,

721
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: if he goes home, he's going home to his family,

722
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: after his wife, after his dad passed away. So but

723
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: then very quickly we were told that Coach went over

724
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: saw him in the hotel and he immediately said, I

725
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: am playing. I talked to my family. They want me

726
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: to play. I want to play, and I know my

727
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: dad would want me to play. And he scored the

728
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: first goal in the game, and so and the game

729
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: goes to overtime and Dallas wins, and the series comes

730
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: to an end, and then there's the handshake line. He's

731
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: breaking down. We're documenting that the celebration of the stars.

732
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: There was all different kinds of things firing around, and

733
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: our crew did a great job, I think of documenting

734
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: every bit of it. And yeah, it was an amazing

735
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: event to be a.

736
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: Part of what is that like in that moment when

737
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: he does score a goal less than twenty four hours

738
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: after his father had passed, and like you had mentioned that, hey,

739
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: they didn't know if he's going to suit up, lace up,

740
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: and he's out there on the ice, and not only

741
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: he's out there on the ice, but he scores and

742
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: you have to capture that moment and you're all invested.

743
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, you don't even

744
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: have time probably to take a step back and like

745
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: the magnitude of it, how do you handle that?

746
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just my call was something like, you know,

747
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: with the heaviest of hearts, you know, Mark Scheifeley, you know,

748
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 3: scores and he immediately goes to the bench and gets

749
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: mobbed by his teammates. To see him on the bench

750
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: with a smile on his face, knowing the grief that

751
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: he was carrying, and then all of that emotion let

752
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: out after the game. You could see that as well. Yeah,

753
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean it was all you can do is document

754
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: that moment that the pictures speak for themselves, and I

755
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: think that's what we did.

756
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: You did an awesome job. You always do.

757
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: You are one of the most versatile play by play

758
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: men out there. I kind of want to end with

759
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: this before we get back to the Jets one quick one.

760
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: How are you able to do it? Not a lot

761
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: of guys can say, Okay, I've done MBA before, I've

762
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: done NFL.

763
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I've been the voice of the Jets for twenty four seasons.

764
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: You do NHL Stanley Cup playoffs, and oh, by the way,

765
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: here in a couple of months, you're gonna get your

766
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: schedule for college football. How are you able to go

767
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: from sport to sport? And what kind of advice do

768
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: you give people coming up in the industry.

769
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a sports fan, Like I watch everything.

770
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 3: When I was young, I watched all sports all the time.

771
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, I'm you know, definitely don't overrate

772
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: what I do. I get ready for a game the way,

773
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: you know, like a teacher puts together their lesson planned

774
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: to stay in front of their kids of the morning

775
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: and present the lesson plan, and you know, the way

776
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: a lawyer gets ready for a case. I mean, I

777
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: do my homework and then hopefully you're prepared and you

778
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: go and use document what you see. So yeah, it's

779
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm not digging ditch and I'm certainly not. You know,

780
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: it's not brain surgery either. It's sports, and hopefully I'm

781
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: just something that is adding to the enjoyment, when really

782
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: it's all about the athletes, right, I mean that's I

783
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: didn't play, I didn't coach. I'm definitely aware when I'm

784
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: watching the NFL or the NHL or big time college

785
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: football or basketball or NBA, you know how incredibly gifted

786
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: the people that I'm watching and documenting are able to

787
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: do what they do. And to me, all I'm trying

788
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: to do is bring that home.

789
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: When you are in the postseason like that. Let's get

790
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: out of here with this one. How much are you

791
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: looking forward to the next call of the Jets playoff game?

792
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: You know, and not just a Jet playoff game, but

793
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: a home playoff game. That's what I want to see.

794
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: I want them to win a division. I want Jet

795
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: fans to be at the game, all of them, you know.

796
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's always a group of Jet fans

797
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: that have been at every road playoff game. But I

798
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: remember in two thousand and two when they won the

799
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: most unlikely of division titles, and you know, they played

800
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: a home playoff game and won by a million and

801
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: we're walking out of the stadium. Afterwards, I remember saying to

802
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: the guys, I'm like, man, that place was absolutely electric.

803
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 3: It was rocking. How much fun was that? I can't

804
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: wait to do that again. That was it. We've never

805
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: done it again. They haven't had a home playoff game

806
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: since two thousand and two. So for the Jet fans,

807
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: the ones that tailgate every single week, that come to

808
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: all the games, that go to the draft parties, that

809
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: you know, consume all of the stuff that you guys do,

810
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: is you know, the real diehards, the ones that deserve

811
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: it the most. I wanted for them. I want them

812
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: to have the experience of being in their stadium watching

813
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: their team in a playoff game on their home field

814
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 3: that they have a chance to be at without having

815
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: to hop on a plane, you know, out to Denver

816
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: or out you know wherever, out to Kansas City or

817
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: something and go scout a ticket from a fan of

818
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: another team. I want them on their own season tickets,

819
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: in their own seats, to be able to be at

820
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: the game and watch our own playoff game. And so

821
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: I'm rooting really really hard for Jet fans to get

822
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: to experience that.

823
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Well said, great seeing your brother, Welcome back home, glad.

824
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: To be here. I'll see you soon, sooner than we realize.

825
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: Probably game day and every day.

826
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Score a Drewelry touchdown with Kendra Scott. Shot Fashion and

827
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Speaker 2: fine Jewelry Fit for another winning season at your local

828
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: store or Kendri Scott dot com.

829
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Speaker 1: Shine Bright, do good with Kendra Scott.

830
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: We're a long way off from counting wins and losses,

831
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: but the Jets are executing their plan. They've moved in

832
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: silence and put in the work. Aaron Glenn is setting

833
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: a tone and there is buying. You can see that

834
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: late in May when you have one hundred percent participation

835
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: at voluntary OTAs, you can see it. One star wide

836
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: receiver Garrett Wilson, who is eligible for a contract extension,

837
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: says he wants to be part of something special.

838
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: He wants to.

839
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: Be here working with his teammates and the new staff,

840
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: and he said, there's a way you go about the

841
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: business when you love what you do. You can see

842
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: it when Quinn Williams owns up to a social media

843
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: post calling it immature, when he posted on x about

844
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: another rebuild year for me, listen. He wants to be

845
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: part of the change here, he said. Quinn and Williams said,

846
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: I was paid to help turn this thing around. The

847
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 2: Jets are going to build this thing the right way

848
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: with Darren Musgy and Aaron Glenna.

849
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: This is a young roster. Three players are north of thirty.

850
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: Consider Tyrod Taylor, the backup quarterback is thirty five, Thomas Hennessy,

851
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: the long snappers thirty and Josh Reynolds, who will compete

852
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: for that number two wide receiver spot, is thirty dayfore mentioned,

853
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: Quinn and Williams is still a babyface twenty seven and

854
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: he's the second longest tenured Jet.

855
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: He sounded different this week. You're already seeing a lot

856
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: of buying.

857
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: There are going to be bumps, and this is just

858
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: the start, but the culture change has begun.

859
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: That's it for us. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. We're

860
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: going to be back here next week.