1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stupidity, I mean an awful 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: lot of stupidity over the past couple of years surrounding COVID. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: But you guys know, we talked about this on Monday. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: The Mayor of San Francisco, London Breed, the Mayor of 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti, and the Governor of California Gavin 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Newsom all attended the forty nine Ers game against the Rams, 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game in La at Sofi Stadium, and 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: all three of them were pictured without masks with Magic Johnson, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: former Laker basketball star. Now Magic Johnson of course, has HIV, 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: so he would be in theory the definition of someone 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: who is immuno compromised. All of them have tried to 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: explain themselves away. Gavin Newsom said he only took his 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: mask off for a few seconds. By the way, we've learned, 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: according to democratic politicians, that when you get a picture taken, 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: COVID can't spread. That seems to be their position because 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: they're always, oh, oh oh, we just took the mask off 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: for a couple of minute, same things. See an end 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: staffer say. By the way, Eric Garcetti broke a new 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: stupidity level here. He said that he held his breath 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: while he got his photo taken with Magic Johnson, so 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: there was no risk. Listen to this answer. I wore 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: my mask the entire game, and when people ask for 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: a photograph, I hold my breath and I put it 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: here and people could see that is a zero percent 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: chance of infection from that buck held his breath. Does 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: that mean that, like, if you are really one of 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: these deep sea divers and you just hold your breath 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: better than almost anyone in the world, that you don't 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: theoretically ever have to wear a mask, right, Like, this 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: is one of the dumbest answers of all time. I 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: don't even know if we could sit here and laugh 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: without at least the possibility that in a week or two, 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Fauci may be like, I have an announcement forget double masking. 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: I want half breathing. I would like for mitigation purposes 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: to limit the droplet dispersal by having everyone hold their 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: breath to at least ten perhaps fifteen. And if you 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: go to thirty and pass out. That's not good, So 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: please stop at twenty. Is there anything that is too 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: stupid for these people? I just have to wonder, is 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: anything too dumb for the Faucias. I don't think so. 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I didn't Inhale now has competition. That depends on what 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the meaning of the word is is this is so stupid. 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: This is so dumb that if I were a resident 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, if I lived in LA County, I 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: would want the mayor fired on the spot. I'm sure 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: there are a lot of vice mayors out there. Somebody 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: could step up, probably not be as dumb, but Buck, 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: this is having consequences in LA. The La Times had 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: a big article today saying that in the wake of 52 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: the mayor's stupidity and the picture of the governor inside 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: a Sofi stadium at the game, many parents out there 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: are saying, wait a minute, you're requiring my kids to 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: wear masks. You are posing for photographs with Magic Johnson. 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: There is no legitimacy whatsoever any longer to a mask 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: requirement in LA. And I think this hypocrisy is really 58 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: cutting through even to Buck in LA, which is obviously 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: a left leaning state. Remember more people in California voted 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump than voted for Donald Trump in Texas. 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Now that's partly a function of population, but there's a 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of seeing people in California too. Think so much 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: of this now has come down to there's the brainwash folks, 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: and they're gonna take years. I mean, they're they're traumatized 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: by fauci in a way, and I don't think we 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: can reach them. But for a lot of people Clay 67 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: and thinking more about this, there's a stubbornness with They 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: don't want to admit that the evil right wing insurrectionists 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: were etc. Like you and me were right. They just 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: they cannot psychologically cope, not that they had to do 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: all that, that we were right the whole time. I 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: think there's some truth to that. We'll talk about it more, 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: because I do think there's some truth to that. Takes 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: a compelling reason to switch your cell phone carrier. I 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: know I've contemplated and talked about it with you guys 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: for a long time now. 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I don't have the people 103 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: for that. I don't know. I really don't know. When 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: people ask me, where are you going to get on 105 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: the other side of this, I don't know. I just 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: know that I'm doing the right thing and this place 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: is supposed to be open. That was Eric Flannery, owner 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: of the Big Board, a bar in the Eighth Street 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: corridor of Washington, DC area. I know actually quite well. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Eric is with us now. Eric Flannery, owner of the 111 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: Big Board, Sir, thanks for calling in. Thank you guys 112 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: very much for having me on. I really appreciate it, 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I really do. You're speaking to our people all across 114 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the country, Eric, tell them what happened to your establishment 115 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: in DC and what's going on so so DC has 116 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: now they have provoked our liquor license and they have 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: come down and they have provoked our basic business license, 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: so we're not allowed to operate it as an alcohol 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: establishment or as any kind of establishment at all. They've 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: done that based on the mayor's order that all of 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: my servers are required to wear masks at all times inside, 122 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: and we are required to check people's personal medical status 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: when they come. Can I just be clear your servers 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: have to wear masks but not patrons. Is that the 125 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: way that the rule goes in DC, So that the 126 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: patrons are supposed to wear them when they open up 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: to the door, when they get they get a glass 128 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: of water, and then they just take them off. That's 129 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: the honest thing I've ever heard. But it's true in 130 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: New York too, Clay. I know you've got a lot here. Yeah, 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: So that means that your business is shut down and 132 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: all of your employees are now not able to work 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: as well. What's the time frame under which you could 134 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: potentially reopen? How does that work for you paying rents? 135 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the status here? So I've got 136 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: a hearing coming up. I've still got to negotiate with 137 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: PC on this. This is a hearing of the APPER 138 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Board of Directors, which is the DC Alcohol Everts Regulation Authority, 139 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: And there they have a meeting. They have a team 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: of people that is appointed by the mayor and confirmed 141 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: by the City Council who are going to hear the 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: ideas behind this. They have to decide whether or not 143 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: they think I can have my license restored. I then 144 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: have to get my license restored at the Department of 145 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Health as well. I have not gotten far enough into 146 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: that process to know. But all of your em employees, yeah, 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off, but all of your employees, 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the people who work, which I would guess how many 149 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: people do you employ? None of them are able to 150 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: work or get a salary right now because you're not 151 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: allowed to work. You're not allowed to open. Correct, that's correct, 152 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: And trust me, they want to work. They're down there. 153 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: They were having some of the most fun they've had 154 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: in years over the last six months because it was 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: such a long time of us being shut down that 156 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: when we were open, they were ready and happy. We're 157 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: speaking to Eric Flannery, owner of the Big Board in 158 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: the Age Quarter of DC, Washington, d C. Eric. Are 159 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: the people coming in, the little commissars from the Health Department? 160 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: Are they a little at all cheapish? Or I mean, 161 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: do they? I mean they must recognize at some level 162 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: that the mask policy of employees but not patrons, that's 163 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do with science, that's moronic. I mean, did 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: they Obviously they're penalizing you, but are they at least 165 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a little apologetic for how stupid they have to act 166 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: in the name of the City of Washington, DC. And 167 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: then also, well we'll get into how people can help you, 168 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: but first talk about that. I mean, what's it like 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: dealing with these folks? So I'm always perfectly nice to 170 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: all all these stuffs, So don't say anything. They have 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: misquoted me in a couple of the official documents that 172 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: they submit it where I was not allowed to review them. 173 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: But I think what happens is they assigned me with 174 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: something that I'm not before they walk in, so that 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: they don't have to feel bad about themselves for doing 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing, which is shutting down a business where 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: everybody's welcome. Eric, you're supposed to be checking for vaccine cards, 178 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I suppose, or vaccine photos cards or whatever else when 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: you enter the business. My understanding is in DC, are 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: most businesses doing that? In your experience? Does that have 181 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: any impact at all? And what in the world process 182 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: is there to eventually end a restriction like that. So 183 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: there is a lot of businesses aren't doing it. You You 184 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: can read newspaper articles to seventy five percent of the 185 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: businesses that they can act to DC not completing may 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: requirements correctly. Um two, Um, I've lost my train of 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: thought there. No. I was just gonna say, how did 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: these processes end? So right now you're supposed to be 189 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: checking vaccine cards and everybody has to be masked. Is 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: this a mayoral decision? Is there a body to appeal to? 191 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: How does this process work? It's a mayoral decision right 192 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: now on the mayoral order. There is no end date 193 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: to the mayoral order, and there is no exit criteria 194 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: on the mayoral order. So in theory it's never ended. 195 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: In theory, it's never ending unless it is superseded by 196 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: another document. So I just want to ask, how can folks, 197 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: if there's anything anyway, can they help? Can they stand 198 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: with you? I know Senator rand Paul has been trying 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: to get attention for you standing up here for what 200 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: is right? What can folks listening do? Uh, there's there's 201 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things in the people. If you're in DC, 202 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: you can right you do your good citizen stuff right here, 203 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: city comes the number right to the mayor, show up 204 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: at the meeting, watched the meeting and see what's happened, 205 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: and more impertinently, if you're in DC, read the mayor order. 206 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I talked to so many people who are either with 207 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: me or against me, And I asked him if they 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: where have they read the mayor order. It's six and 209 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: a half pages, That's all it is. It's six and 210 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: a half pages. It does not have what is required 211 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: to put the type of change in society. It doesn't 212 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: have the justification in that mayor order. Tyranny is what 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: it is. Eric Flannery of the Big Board in washing 214 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: DC restaurant Tour, Sir, we wish you the best. Thanks 215 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. We appreciate it. Josh Holly 216 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: up next to everybody. The third hour of the Clay 217 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show is here, everybody, and we 218 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: so appreciate you being with us. Rolling on by here 219 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: getting getting all the latest. Today we will discuss that 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: raid on a terrorist basically no one had heard of 221 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: outside of the National Security Complex, but there was a 222 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: big raid special operations, number of casualties involved, including the terrorist, 223 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: but also some civilians. What happened there in Syria. Will 224 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: be joined by Jack Carr, former Navy seal and author 225 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: to help us analyze that situation. Where are we in 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: the war on terror? People don't talk about it anymore 227 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: right now, though we are joined by Missouri Senator Josh 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Holly once again. Senator Holly, great to have you with us. Hey, 229 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Can we just start with you. 230 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard, and I'm sure you've shared it, but 231 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I was curious about your feelings with this announcement from 232 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: the Biden administration of an open Supreme Court seat that 233 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: he would only that he would follow through on the 234 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: initial promise of only appointing a black female jurist to 235 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: the High Court. What do you what do you make 236 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: of that, Senator Holly, Well, you know, I mean, he 237 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: can appoint whomember he wants. I suppose, I said, I 238 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: think it's a mistake to a point based on a 239 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: quota and to rule out large numbers of people before 240 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: you've even looked at their merits or qualifications. But listen, 241 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean my criteria are this, This needs to be 242 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: a pro constitution judge who is going to apply the 243 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: law as it's written and not how they want it 244 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: to be. And also, by the way, who believes in 245 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: the rule of law. I mean, I don't think the 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: president's notice, but we're in the midst of a historic 247 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: crime wave and we need judges who actually believe in 248 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: our criminal law system who believe that it is just 249 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: and fair and not systemically racist. And I tell you 250 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: he's been sending up to the Senate one activist, left 251 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: wing pro crime, pro criminal judge after another. So I 252 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: hope that's not who he sends us for the Supreme Court. 253 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Senator Holly, appreciate you joining us. I know the White 254 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: House has been coming after you, basically accusing you of 255 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: as close as they can get up to saying it 256 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that you're basically a Russian plant for the arguments that 257 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: you're may about Ukraine. Now, first of all, are you 258 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: in fact a Russian plant? In second, what didn't you 259 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: think when you saw what Jensaki said at the White House? 260 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean, it's just no, I'm not 261 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: to answer question play get that on the record. I 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: just think that it shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: this administration is. I mean, they don't have the ability 264 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: to engage in any kind of an argument for any 265 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: of their positions because they are historically unpopular. Nobody likes 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: what they're doing, nobody believes in their policies, and they 267 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: don't want to have a debate about it. They don't 268 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: want to have an argument. They want to shout down 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: their critics, whether it's me or Joe Rogan or anybody else, 270 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: shout them down, shut them down because they don't want 271 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: to open debate because they're losing. Listen on Ukraine. Who's 272 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: responsible for the position in the United States is in 273 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: with regard to Ukraine. Joe Biden is who came into 274 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: office and allowed Russia to start up their energy pipeline too. 275 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: It's called their energy pipeline, but stuff stollars into the 276 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: pockets of Vladimir Putin and his cronies. Who did that? 277 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden did that. Who denied Ukraine military aid last 278 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: when Muklaine asked for it, Joe Biden did. And now 279 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: that we're in a crisis now he wants to send 280 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: American troops from our country to Europe. We already have 281 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: tens of thousands there. He wants even more. I think 282 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: that's a mistake. I'm opposed to sending thousands of additional troops. 283 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I'll take my stand on that any day. Speaking of 284 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Senator Josh Holly of Missouri, Senator Holly, we've got the Olympics, 285 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I've Clay's the sports guy, so he's gonna look at him, 286 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: make sure I get the hand signals. I think starting 287 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: today in Beijing, right, that's enough of a newster. Thank you, Clay. 288 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: Clay's giving me the thumbs up. I appreciate that. But 289 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, for me, the angle of it that is 290 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: that is particularly interesting, and I think for a lot 291 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: of other folks is this is happening in China. I 292 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: feel like more and more Americans and honestly the whole 293 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: world are waking up to the realities of not just 294 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: the threat of Chinese Communist Party internally to descent and 295 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: human rights, but obviously to the rest of the world. 296 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: So how do you want to think? How do you 297 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: think people should be approaching this. Obviously we're supportive of 298 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: the athletes and that's great, but what do you think 299 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: about China being able to hold this. I feel like 300 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: some people are saying it feels a little bizarre. Oh, 301 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: they never ever have been allowed to host them with 302 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: their games, no question about it. And the fact that 303 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: you know there's mental operations and NBC, I guess it 304 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: is just televising. I'm not watching any of it, so 305 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it's NBC's televising it. 306 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: You know it's gonna make money on this, and who 307 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: knows and me just truckloads of cash on it. I 308 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: think it's really repulsive. I mean, it's just the fact 309 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: that that China is allowed to try and sucercoat it's 310 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: record of being the most oppressive to tolitarian regime on 311 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: the planet. It's frankly just sickening. So listen, I certainly 312 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: support our athletes. I hope it's great. I wish them well, 313 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: but but I personally am im not gonna walk on 314 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: television and not going to give my support to that 315 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: as a citizen. I just think it's wrong, and I 316 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: think it's a long time it has a game. We 317 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: were talking earlier. I agree with everything you just said 318 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: about about bowing down to China and allowing them to 319 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: host the winner Olympics at all. I think it's a 320 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: disgrace that we've allowed that to occur. But speaking of 321 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: allowed to occur, you mentioned Joe Rogan, and certainly we've 322 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: seen with Whoopie Goldberg and what's happened to her and 323 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: all of the discussions this week surrounding what should and 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't be permissible to be said and I'm a big 325 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: marketplace of ideas, guy, Senator Holly, I think you are 326 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: to a large extent too. But on the show, we 327 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: were discussing what I believe is a monster story that 328 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: isn't being discussed enough. The White House is directing big 329 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: tech companies what they believe should or should not be happening. 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: In terms of speech. The government can't do that directly. 331 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: You know this better than almost anybody because you are 332 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: a legal scholar. But it's even not allowed, and it 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: should be called out more than it is to allow 334 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: them to use big tech to regulate in a way 335 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: that they themselves would be unable to From a constitutional perspective, 336 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: what do you think about what's going on? And are 337 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: we not giving enough attention to really what It is 338 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: a radical proposition that is being put forward by the 339 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Biden administration almost on a daily basis now as it 340 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: pertains to big tech in regulation, it is absolutely radical, 341 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: and you're exactly right about it. And my view is 342 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: that it is a profound threat to our constitutional norms 343 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: in constitutional values. You know, Clay, I can imagine even 344 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I mean barely a generation ago. I 345 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: cannot imagine an American president urging media companies newspapers, television, 346 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, which an equivalent of today's social media, urging 347 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: them actively to censor viewpoints he doesn't like and disagrees with. 348 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the outcrazy And now now you're doing it, 349 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: as you say, briasonally. I mean, now they're using the 350 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: bully pulpit of the White House to try and urge 351 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: these tech companies with their in their public forums, to 352 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: to shut out voices that they disapprove. And it's not 353 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: even you know, they've been doing it to the right. 354 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: They've been trying to censor the right for a long time. 355 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: But you could say a lot about you know, Dary 356 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: Rogan's political views. I don't think you can characterize him. 357 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: And he certainly had a right laner, let's put it 358 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: that way. I mean, the guy is very independent for 359 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: his credit, you know. And I just think the idea 360 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: that the President would urge this, it just shows I 361 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: think that this administration, certainly, and unfortunately many on the 362 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: left are the leaders of the left, no longer believe 363 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: in the fundamental principle of free speech. They don't believe, Clay, 364 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: what you alluded to just a second ago, which is 365 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: that the cure for speech that you don't like or 366 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: for speech that is inaccurate, is more speech a you 367 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: don't you don't throttle it down, you open it up. 368 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: And and that's you know, this is why the whole 369 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: idea that well, if I don't like speech, I'll call 370 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: it thiss information, and but I'll censor it. Oh my gosh, 371 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what our First Amendment is designed to protect against. 372 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: So I'm really worried about it. And also, you know, 373 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: you see the same thing happening on campuses, but to 374 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: come from the President, to come from the White House, 375 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I think it's really really destructive and it's really dangerous. 376 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of Josh Holly, Senator from the Great State of Missouri, 377 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Senator Holly, it seems more and more like the Biden 378 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: administration is just running out of narrative. I mean, you know, 379 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to convince people that the economy is great, 380 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: they created all these jobs. It was all hinging, it 381 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: seemed on the buildmac Better Plan, which is there going 382 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: to be a renewed effort in any serious way for 383 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: that to pass before the midterm election, because absence that, 384 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: it just feels like failure. Is the only way to 385 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: describe what we've seen so far, and therefore a Democrat 386 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: pivot is the only way they'll be able to respond 387 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: if they get crushed in the mid terms, or that's 388 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: the way they should respond. How do you see this 389 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: playing out? I know we're early in twenty twenty two, 390 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like it's going to change anytime soon. 391 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh and I don't think that. Up here on Capitol Hill, 392 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you they don't think that they really 393 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: have any problem. I mean they think that what they're 394 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: doing is great, which shows you how out of touch 395 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: they are with reality. I mean, this is the most 396 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: unpopular administration of my lifetime. This president can hardly complete 397 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: a sentence. I mean it is stunning, it is scary, 398 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: and the American people are looking at as a tenda 399 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, Wow, you're giving us inflation that is 400 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: totally out of control. You're giving us a foreign policy 401 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: disasters everywhere you turn, Afghanistan, China, Ukraine, and Russia. And 402 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: this is a guy who is leading this country into 403 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: disaster after disaster, and people don't like it, they don't 404 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: want it. But I think the Democrats answer the question. 405 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: I think they're just going to try to forge ahead, 406 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll accomplish much this year because 407 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: they're so internally divided. But I you know, the American 408 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: people are getting a good look at the Democrat leaders 409 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and what they want for this country. And what they 410 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: want is a basically economic socialism combined with their hard 411 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: left vocalism. When it comes to social policy, it's just 412 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: radical stuff. And the American people they don't want it, 413 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: and in fact, they hate it. That's why Joe Biden 414 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: is so unpopular. Senator Holly, A couple of questions here 415 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: for you to close out. One, what happened to your chiefs? Two? Two? 416 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Second part of that, did you see the mayor of 417 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles saying that when he was getting his picture 418 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: taken with Magic Johnson it wasn't an issue with COVID 419 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: because he held his breath. I mean, he was at 420 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in rams game. I mean, that's 421 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: there's video that's a direct quote from him. So I'll 422 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: let you first address the chiefs collapse. In second, how 423 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: good of a breath holder you might be and what 424 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: that might mean for your future photographs. I'm on the 425 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: second part. First, the hypocrisy on this is unbelievable, you know. 426 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: And I don't want to call out any of my 427 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: senate colleagues in my name, but I'll just say that 428 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: the rank hypocrisy to watch these people walk around with 429 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: masks and then as soon as they get away from 430 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: the cameras to rip off their masks. Oh yeah, it 431 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: is all theater. I mean, it's all theater. And for 432 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to be out there saying blaming folks who 433 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: are unvaccinated and saying that they're the reason the pandemic 434 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: is raging. No, they're not. We know that people who 435 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, can get COVID, and are you know, 436 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: for no fault of anybody's own. I mean, the truth 437 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: is the disadministration, the hypocrisy, the failure to plan. It's unbelievable. Okay, 438 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the chiefs though, I mean, you're really kind of twisting 439 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: the knife on that one. Well, look, I'm a Titans fan. 440 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: We've lost to the Bengals first, so I'm still angry 441 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: at Ryan Tannehill. So you're you're better off than me 442 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: because at least you're in the AFC Championship game. Fair enough, 443 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: fair enough. I just you know, I don't want to 444 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: be a Monday Morning quarterback on it. I mean, obviously 445 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: with a disappointing loss, I mean, let me put it 446 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: this way. I'm trying to put it in the positive way. 447 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I thought the Bengals came out and their defensive adjustments 448 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: after halftime, particularly, I mean, I think what they did, 449 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: but they're safeties and h you know, using it getting 450 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: to just basically played one high, having one of the 451 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: safeties could come forward, do some spying, sort of clogging 452 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: up that middle. That to mahomes have been easy, really 453 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: effective effectively in the first half. I mean I thought 454 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: that that was they did a good job. You know, 455 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: they did a good job defensively, and unfortunately we just 456 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't find an answer to that until until the end, 457 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: too late in the game. I mean, it just didn't happen. 458 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: So a lot of credit to them for their defensive 459 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: adjustments and you know, and then offensively obviously, I mean 460 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the angles, they really got it going. And uh, you know, 461 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: when you score, when you allow twenty one, I think, unanswered, 462 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: that's hard to do, you know, in an AFC championship 463 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: game and expect to win. But listen, that all sounds 464 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: kind of native. I mean, I just I'm I'm really 465 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Tea S fan, lifelong teams fan, will 466 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: be forever. They had a great season. I wish they 467 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: were going to be playing a couple of Sundays from now, 468 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: But you know what, They're young, and I've gotten to 469 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: know some of the players on the team. They're great guys, 470 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: and this will be great learning experience and they'll be 471 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: back in better than ever, no doubt. Four straight AFC 472 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: championship games. I bet you didn't think you'd see that 473 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan anytime soon. 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Knowing that this terrorists had chosen surround 497 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: himself with families, including children, we made a choice to 498 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: pursue a special Forces raid at a much greater risk 499 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: than to our own people, rather than targeting him with 500 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: an airstrike. We made this choice to minimize civilian casualties. 501 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Last night's operation took a major terrorist leader off the 502 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: battlefield and has sent a strong message to terrorists around 503 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: the world, we will come after you and find you. 504 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the the Clay and Buck Show. That was 505 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: the President Biden earlier today on the Special Forces or 506 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Special Operations raid that targeted ISIS leader Abu Ibraheim al 507 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: Hashimi al Karaishi, who is somebody that I don't think 508 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: many folks out there had heard of unless you work 509 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: in you know Anti isis targeting. We want to bring 510 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: somebody in to help us analyze what we know so 511 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: far about this raid and just where we stand in 512 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the war on terror as it is. Jack cars with 513 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: us now. He's a former Navy seal sniper and task 514 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: unit commander with service in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's also 515 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: the best selling author of the Terminal List series. His 516 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: latest in The Blood, is available for pre order. Jack, 517 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Oh, thanks for having me on. 518 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: So you see this one and this is there's some 519 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: photos some video of the raid side. It's a house 520 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: in northwest Syria sent in apparently Apache gun ships, Special 521 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: Forces and or special Operations I should say, units that 522 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: didn't really specify that much about who exactly was involved 523 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: from what I've seen so far. He the terrorist leader 524 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: apparently detonated a suicide vest or detonated a bomb of 525 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: some kind, killing a number of civilians. What do you 526 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: make of this raid in terms of this, is this 527 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: a successful raid? Did we want to actually capture and 528 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: try to get intel and mean, what are your thoughts? Yeah, 529 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: and the capture versus kills always uh, you never know 530 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: how know how that's going to play out these days, 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: especially in today's political climate. So you know, he took 532 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: himself out the same way that his predecessor, how Bad 533 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Daddy did in twenty nineteen with a suicide vest at 534 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: least that's what is being reported, and took out his 535 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: wife and some of his kids at the same time. 536 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: So what's not really being focused on as much is 537 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: that also a top lieutenant of his was killed in 538 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the raid by US Special Operations Forces on another level 539 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: of that house, and oftentimes that can be even more 540 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: important in decapitating that head of the snake to get 541 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: that top lieutenant essentially at the CEO who is managing 542 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: those day to day operations. So we really took out 543 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: two terrorist targets, did a proof of concept under this 544 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: new administration, and interestingly enough, this terrorist leader was acting 545 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: in a similar fashion to what bin Laden did, staying 546 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: in one place, not leaving his compound, not leaving his building, 547 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: only going up to the roof for some fresh air 548 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: every now and again, which is different if you remember 549 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: Yaser Arafat would change locations almost daily, at least every 550 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: couple couple days. But it just shows how they're adapting 551 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: and how we need to adapt as well. But also, 552 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, we decided not to take him out with 553 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: some sort of a strike that would put innocent civilians 554 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: at more risk. And and that's what I saw during 555 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: my time in Iraq in Aflihanistan as that was whether 556 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: it was us going in or it was some sort 557 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: of an air strike that we were calling in, that 558 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: was of the highest importance to protect those those civilians. 559 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: So the other part of that is you can show 560 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: dead body. It can't be spun as much as it 561 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: could if you just have a demolished building where you 562 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: say someone was killed, So you actually have a body. 563 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: There's proof of that of that debt there and also 564 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: safety of flight just getting to and front. We saw 565 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: that a helicopter had to be destroyed on target or 566 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: close to the target anyway, and It just goes to 567 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: show that just getting to and from these locations is tough, 568 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: and whether that means you're on the ground somewhere, moving 569 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: in vehicles, or you're in the air, that safety of 570 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: flight is still so dangerous for everyone involved in these operations. 571 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: And the spectrum of Desert One in nineteen eighty Mogadishue, 572 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Blackhawk down, the helicopter that crash in the bin laden raid, 573 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: these things are always at the at the forefront of 574 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: the planning for these types of operations, Jack, Do we 575 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: have any indications early on, certainly we saw the terror 576 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: attack that happened when thirteen soldiers lost their lives in Afghanistan. 577 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Do we have any indications early on whether the new 578 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: Taliban can roll in Afghanistan is increasing the overall reach 579 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: of terrorist organizations in the Middle East, or if the 580 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Taliban is actually doing some of what they said they would, 581 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: which is preventing, at least in theory, the rise of isis. 582 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Do we have any indications right now how this is going. 583 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough one to evaluate, and I 584 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: hope we have people that are on this daily and 585 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: I hope we left behind human human networks in Afghanistan 586 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: that can be reported. We were there for twenty years, 587 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: and as you know, on the intelligence services, part of 588 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: what we do there is leave behind these long term 589 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: depenetration type operations and that our sources are still solid. 590 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: And after twenty years, I have to think that that 591 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: is the case, and then we're getting some very good 592 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: information back on that front. But there're a lot to 593 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: deal with over there. But at the same time, without 594 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: us being there daily and keeping them on their toes, 595 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't see how they can't be expanding outside of 596 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: the region when it comes to building their networks, adapting 597 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: and pushing that reach, whether it's just regionally or virtually 598 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: into into countries where they're um that they're not very 599 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: close too as far as proximity. We're speaking of Jack Carr, 600 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: former Navy seal, author of the Terminalist series In the Blood. 601 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: His latest is available for pre order. Jack, I want 602 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: to ask you know, just yesterday, I believe Clay, it 603 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: wasn't yester the first day where they started to dismiss 604 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: active duty members of the military who refused to get 605 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the vaccine as somebody who served and served on frontline 606 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: in frontline combat roles and I'm sure still has many 607 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: many brothers and sisters who are still in the armed services. 608 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: What do you make of that, Well, it's very disheartening 609 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: that everything has become so politicized as far as this 610 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: issue goes. UM, this science quote unquote, this science H 611 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: seems to be evolving. People at the senior levels don't 612 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: really have the greatest idea of what is happening with 613 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: the UH, with with COVID, and it's different UH iterations. 614 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: So it's just very disheartening to me that it's politicized 615 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: and that we are essentially targeting certain people and trying 616 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: to move them out of different positions in UH in 617 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: government just because UH they have some questions about what 618 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: I think still as of today is an experimental vaccine. UM. 619 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: So it just that that it's been politicized so much 620 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: as disheartening. I saw that even a Navy chaplain um 621 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: had his UH wasn't allowed to have some was allowed 622 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: not to take it for religious exemption purposes. UM. So 623 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: when you have an actual chapelain, not just someone you 624 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: suspect might be just trying to get around some sort 625 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: of a mandate UM, in an actual chaplain um that 626 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: is in the Navy for this reason, um, not getting 627 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: a religious exemption. Um. I mean, it's just it's just 628 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: disheartening to me that everything is so politicized on that 629 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: up front. Jack. When you look back to the raid 630 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: in Syria and the killing of the ISIS operative, how 631 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: do you value or way the cost of potential innocent 632 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: life versus the benefit of being able to eliminate one 633 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: of these top leaders of a terrorist organization. In other words, 634 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: there's the report that there might have been ten people, 635 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: women and children potentially who died as a part of 636 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: this raid again early reports. Is there a number when 637 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: your experience as an abcal where you say, okay, it 638 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: might be worth the risk of ten other people dying, 639 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: but it's not worth a hundred. How do you balance 640 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: the risk versus the danger here of raids as it 641 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: pertains to quote unquote innocent life versus a terrorist target. 642 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: What kind of balancing acts have you seen? Yeah, so 643 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: collateral damage is something that you hate to say it always, 644 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: but it is always a part of warfare. So that 645 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: being said, my personal experience downrange in Iraq in Afghanistan 646 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: was that if there was the in dying in sort 647 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: of an operation that we could look at ahead of time, 648 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: we wouldn't do it. And that goes at every level, tactical, operational, strategic. 649 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: All of those levels were in alignment there, and I 650 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: think that is really what one of the main things 651 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: that differentiates us from our enemy. We maintained that moral 652 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: high ground. We put thought into this, We put ourselves 653 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: at risk so as to not hurt or kill innocent 654 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: civilians to the best of our possible ability. And then 655 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: you see our enemy, what do they do. They detonate 656 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: that suicide, vest kill their wife and children both this 657 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: latest target and held bag Daddy before him. And then 658 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: you can juxtapose that also very interestingly with Bin Latton, 659 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: who had time to prepare who there were shots fired 660 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: in the compound already, he had an aka in his 661 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: room and did not defend himself in the end like 662 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: he asked so many others to do for him. So 663 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: so very interesting, these different leaders. But the last two 664 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: one last night and out back Daddy before him, they 665 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: took the lives of innocent people, where we do the 666 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: exact opposite. And I think that is really the main 667 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: differentiator differentiator between us and our enemy. We maintain that 668 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: moral high ground every chance we get Jack car former 669 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: Navy seal check out the Terminalist series and his latest 670 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: in The Blood, available for pre order now. Great author 671 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: and a great American. Jack, Thanks for being with us, 672 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on you guys, take care. Good 673 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: stuff is always. Let's get you set up with a 674 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: free subscription to a publication received now by six million Americans. 675 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: The monthly publication comes from Hillsdale College and it's a 676 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: great read. 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