Speaker 1: All right, thanks scotch On an hour two Sean Hannity Show,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn our number if
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. The
Speaker 1: freak out over Doge continues as they dug up another
Speaker 1: one point nine billion dollars in taxpayer money misplaced quote
Speaker 1: by the Biden man, how do you misplays one point
Speaker 1: nine billion? You know, how is it? We're now you
Speaker 1: know about where we're facing what is a massive, massive
Speaker 1: debt in this country. And you know, the idea that
Speaker 1: somehow Donald Trump saying, okay, this has got to stop.
Speaker 1: The American taxpayers were deceived. They did not They did
Speaker 1: not spell out where this money was being spent, or
Speaker 1: how was being spent, or her radical you know, this
Speaker 1: money abroad was And as a result, as the American
Speaker 1: people get more and more aware of it, they're just
Speaker 1: getting sick and tired of it. Most Democrats remain in
Speaker 1: freak out mode and they will forever stay there, probably
Speaker 1: throughout the entire Trump presidency. Lee Zeldon announced a fifty
Speaker 1: million dollar environmental justice contract that he had to cancel
Speaker 1: for the Palestinians and Republicans, by the way, are unleashing
Speaker 1: something that was first put in place by Thomas Jefferson himself,
Speaker 1: which is the empowerment clause, which is the practice of
Speaker 1: declining to spend funds provided by Congress. And I think
Speaker 1: they will be successful in that effort, you know, considering
Speaker 1: our founders, framers were very clear about their belief in
Speaker 1: limited government greater freedom. But the bottom line freak out continues.
Speaker 1: Although there are a couple of Democrats interestingly that you know,
Speaker 1: we saw the Obama guys in their little podcasts, Pod
Speaker 1: Save America whatever it is, saying you know what, and
Speaker 1: we think of this idea. Well, you have some Democrats
Speaker 1: now admitting, oh DOJ is a good idea? Good? Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll maybe they'll put their money where their mouth is
Speaker 1: and their votes where their mouth is. Let's listen.
Speaker 2: And I think we're missing the vote as Democrats. And
Speaker 2: all I'm saying is that sometimes it's better to join
Speaker 2: them and actually play a role in how the strategy works,
Speaker 2: rather than so pathetically, frankly try to combat something that
Speaker 2: clearly is a steamroller. And Democrats are being steamrolled and
Speaker 2: I'm deeply concerned about that. Yes, Musk is not elected,
Speaker 2: he has no accountability other than Donald Trump, and that's
Speaker 2: a frightening combination.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then we add the people you know very well,
Speaker 3: be very clear up front, you do not want to
Speaker 3: some responsible conservative Republican who's going to save us for this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well they didn't come. They're not there. Okay, let's just
Speaker 3: get over it. They're not coming to Calvary's not coming
Speaker 3: to courts, are not coming, and they need nothing. And
Speaker 3: where do we pick our fights.
Speaker 1: We all the government can be inefficient. We all know
Speaker 1: that the bureaucracy can be bloated. We all worked in
Speaker 1: the White House. We tried to reorganize the government. We
Speaker 1: tried to find efficiency. It's hard to do.
Speaker 4: And honestly, some of.
Speaker 1: This is pretty annoying because some of the stuff we
Speaker 1: should have done. Yeah, yeah, you could.
Speaker 5: Do some of them.
Speaker 1: You just got to talk shin zam. You're like, I
Speaker 1: can dig these dojah cats. Oh, pretty interesting their reaction
Speaker 1: to this. We're going to be joined in a minute
Speaker 1: by Hans von Spakowski and Rogers Everino. But Hans, in
Speaker 1: an article said, like spoiled children finally being told no
Speaker 1: by their parents, bureaucrats beneficiaries of wasteful government largess are
Speaker 1: howling at the shock waves that the Department of Government
Speaker 1: Efficiency is now sending through Washington. NBC called it an
Speaker 1: unprecedented effort to shrink the federal workforce and slash programs. Well,
Speaker 1: not exactly, you know. And and the second part of
Speaker 1: this story, the untold part of this story is, you know,
Speaker 1: why were it you know, why weren't the inspectors generals
Speaker 1: doing their job, which you know they're now removed. How
Speaker 1: do we have a GAO report? I believe that came out.
Speaker 1: What that showed two hundred and thirty six billion taxpayer
Speaker 1: dollars wasted last year alone by the Biden administration. You know,
Speaker 1: at what point does it become a financial national emergency
Speaker 1: to examine every line item in every single bill so
Speaker 1: that this waste, fraud, abuse, and I'm sure corruption associated
Speaker 1: with it when we get to the bottom line, is
Speaker 1: being squandered and while the average American toils away making
Speaker 1: sixty six thousand dollars a year, At some point we've
Speaker 1: got to admit this is just utter madness and insanity
Speaker 1: and it's unsustainable. And yet you're you're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the point, you know where debt to GDP ratio is
Speaker 1: going to be so high, is going to be higher
Speaker 1: than at any point during World War two, and that
Speaker 1: becomes an unsustainable economy. That is not an economy where
Speaker 1: any country can flourish. And we've seen this happen abroad.
Speaker 1: Rogers Sevorino, Vice President Domestic Policy, Heritage Foundation, and also
Speaker 1: Hans van Spokovski is with us, and he, of course
Speaker 1: has this article, is the managing Election Law Reform Initiative
Speaker 1: and senior legal fellow at the EDME Center for Legal
Speaker 1: and Judicial Studies. Guys, good to have you both. Hans.
Speaker 1: I read your article. I thought it was extraordinarily well done,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what's happening. They are. They're acting like
Speaker 1: spoiled children that have finally been set you know, told no.
Speaker 1: But I think a bigger story that will unfold over
Speaker 1: time is that the degree to which they hid this
Speaker 1: from congressional oversight and from inspectors generals, well.
Speaker 6: That is absolutely true. And the fact that they're getting
Speaker 6: so upset is because it's being exposed. And look, you know,
Speaker 6: most people, the public particularly, we believe in transparency, but
Speaker 6: they are very upset that all this besizarre crazy, in fact,
Speaker 6: dangerous spending is coming to light. You know, the biggest
Speaker 6: thing about this Sean is they keep saying it unprecedented.
Speaker 6: It's not unprecedented. Eisen Dwight Eisenhower, when he got elected,
Speaker 6: he came in and said, boy, this government is wasteful,
Speaker 6: it's inefficient. And you know, he actually formed a committee.
Speaker 6: His committee was called the Committee on Government Organization. It
Speaker 6: was composed of his brother and a very rich, successful
Speaker 6: business guy named Nelson Rockefeller. And is all this sound familiar?
Speaker 1: It sounds familiar. And I can give you another attempt
Speaker 1: to limit the seis scope influencer government. And unfortunately, Congress
Speaker 1: didn't do a thing to act on any of the
Speaker 1: recommendations of the famous Grace Commission. During the Reagan years,
Speaker 1: these were the best, brightest business minds in the country
Speaker 1: and they were tasked with with trying to come up
Speaker 1: with ways to make the government more efficient and Roger
Speaker 1: the Congress adopted none of them. And Reagan's, you know,
Speaker 1: hands were tied at the time, and Trump's, his hands
Speaker 1: are not going to be tied at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. This is not going to be something that
Speaker 1: is going to fly with the American people. Once the
Speaker 1: American people understand the magnitude of fraud, waste, abuse, and corruption.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a ninety ten issue. I don't
Speaker 1: even think their own party in the end will support it.
Speaker 1: In spite of all the hysteria, the singing, you know,
Speaker 1: the screaming and you know, ranting and raving. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to work well.
Speaker 5: Elon Musk. He actually tweeted that al Gore was the
Speaker 5: one who spearheaded reinventing government and all these clips of
Speaker 5: him saying We're going to end waste, fraud and abuse
Speaker 5: over and over again. Well, Doge is actually doing it
Speaker 5: for once, actually doing it, and it reminds me of
Speaker 5: COVID when all the kids had to do remote learning
Speaker 5: and the parents finally figured out, this is the drivel
Speaker 5: that my kids are being exposed to. And that's what's
Speaker 5: happening now. Now we're finally discovering where all this money went.
Speaker 5: If we're spending you know, a billion dollars for DEI
Speaker 5: all across the world using USAAD funds, or we're funding
Speaker 5: immigrants in hotels in downtown Manhattan did a tune of
Speaker 5: eighty million dollars that is now being called backco. We're
Speaker 5: saying whoahoa, whoa. This is not what we signed up for.
Speaker 5: Where's my hotel? Where's my free food? You know, we're
Speaker 5: struggling here. We have inflation for the last you know,
Speaker 5: five years. What about us? Why are we wasting all
Speaker 5: this money without accountability? And actually, finally there's some accountability.
Speaker 5: Those DHS deep staters who authorize that funding for the
Speaker 5: hotel for migrants contrary to the President's orders are now fired.
Speaker 5: That would have never happened before Trump and before Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: And you know, Hans, if you go back, remember we
Speaker 1: had a group in Washington that was somewhat influential citizens
Speaker 1: against government waste, and they would find examples, egregious examples
Speaker 1: of government misspending, nothing on the scale of what we're
Speaker 1: looking at here. I mean this this is you know,
Speaker 1: human growth hormones, steroids, maximum doses, and you know, I
Speaker 1: remember reading one hundred and nine thousand dollars to studying
Speaker 1: the mating habits of the Japanese quail, and you know
Speaker 1: is and I won't spend the time to go through
Speaker 1: the massive list of what they have discovered so far,
Speaker 1: but at the magnitude of this is you're talking about
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there is going to
Speaker 1: be hundreds of billions of dollars. In my interview with
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, he thinks that'll go over a trillion dollars.
Speaker 6: Oh, I agree. And look, the problem in the past
Speaker 6: was that even when that kind of thing was discovered,
Speaker 6: nothing was done about it. And here we actually have
Speaker 6: an administration and we have heads of major cabinet departments
Speaker 6: who are doing something about it. I mean, the new
Speaker 6: head of the Department Agriculture has already canceled two hundred
Speaker 6: million dollars in bizarre spending on outside contracts of of
Speaker 6: all kind. We've got us AID being shut down, which
Speaker 6: has been spending huge amounts of money on ridiculous projects.
Speaker 6: So they're actually trying to do something about it. And
Speaker 6: that also, that is that has not been done before.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not been done before, and to this extent,
Speaker 1: I mean as you go agency by agency by agency,
Speaker 1: and I think part of Look, the mainstream media is
Speaker 1: just screaming and yelling about it. And the question I
Speaker 1: have is where have they been. I mean, they all
Speaker 1: claim to be journalists, they all claim, you know, to
Speaker 1: be at the top of their profession. I argue that
Speaker 1: legacy media is dead. Why why didn't they ever discover this, Roger?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they ask questions? How was the Biden administration
Speaker 1: you know, so successful of in terms of their ability
Speaker 1: to ignore Congressional oversight, which is, you know, their constitutional function.
Speaker 1: And when the likes of Joanie Earnst and the House
Speaker 1: Oversight Committee and other different committees were looking into how
Speaker 1: the monies were actually spent, you know, all they did
Speaker 1: is steimy them, a stonewall them, and then give them
Speaker 1: broad interpretations of how the money is being spent without
Speaker 1: any of the specificity that we now knew existed the
Speaker 1: whole time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so why doesn't the media report on it? Well,
Speaker 5: because they're in on it too. We've discovered that political
Speaker 5: was getting millions of dollars in these subscriptions beyond the
Speaker 5: regular This is a political pro hundreds of thousands and
Speaker 5: millions of dollars. So the media was in on it too.
Speaker 5: They're being funded by the federal government. So this is
Speaker 5: the shocking thing that's being discovered. Why is it that
Speaker 5: the media is getting you know, grants or any sort
Speaker 5: of funding from the federal So.
Speaker 1: They weren't being subsidized that we could confirm that this
Speaker 1: is all subscription money.
Speaker 5: These were subscriptions.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break more with Roger Severino and Hans Polkovsky,
Speaker 1: who will join us on the other side. We'll get
Speaker 1: to your calls going up as well. Eight hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety four one sean is our number. All right, we continue.
Speaker 1: Hans von Spakovski and Roger Severino is with us talking
Speaker 1: about the issue of Doze in the left wing freakout.
Speaker 1: Let me play Al Gore in nineteen ninety three, which
Speaker 1: you mentioned. I mean, it is funny, you know, this
Speaker 1: is how far the Democratic Party has come or how
Speaker 1: low they've sunk.
Speaker 7: This report tells us out of cut waste, cut red tape,
Speaker 7: streamline the bureaucracy, change procurement rule, change the personnel rules,
Speaker 7: and create a government that works better and costs less.
Speaker 7: I've read it and where it says the president should
Speaker 7: the president will.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, doesn't it?
Speaker 5: Roger, yeah, does so? Why is it that we're spending
Speaker 5: seventy thousand dollars for a DII musical in Ireland forty
Speaker 5: seven thousand for a transgender opera in Colombia? One point
Speaker 5: five million for DEI in Serbia's workplaces. Right, these sorts
Speaker 5: of things should never have happened, and somebody was asleep
Speaker 5: at the wheel, and too many people were benefiting from it.
Speaker 5: The deep state was hiding it. This is all coming
Speaker 5: to an end finally, But here's one thing that has
Speaker 5: to be reported on more. If judges led it, so
Speaker 5: law Fair against Trump sailed. Now they're trying to stop
Speaker 5: law Trump's agenda through law Fair. So now all these
Speaker 5: injunctions trying to prevent Trump from blocking the funds, trying
Speaker 5: to prevent Trump from executing on his executive orders.
Speaker 1: But this is one oh one right out of the
Speaker 1: democratic liberal democratic playbook, which is what they can't get
Speaker 1: accomplished at the ballot box, what they can't get done legislatively,
Speaker 1: they go to the courts and they hope they find
Speaker 1: liberal activist judges that will help, at a minimum, delay
Speaker 1: the process of a duly elected president fulfilling his promises.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, that's right. These federal judges are now becoming
Speaker 5: essentially federal employees because they are micromanaging individual grants, they
Speaker 5: are micromanaging what's being put on a website. So they
Speaker 5: were ordered to restore CDC websites pages on how to
Speaker 5: treat certain diseases, even though it had the gender ideology
Speaker 5: from the Biden era department, Right, who is running the department,
Speaker 5: Who's running CDC, who's running AKHS, A federal judge or
Speaker 5: the president and his appointees. It looks like the federal
Speaker 5: judge is in charge of it. So I have this
Speaker 5: odd thing where you have disclaimers that the trumpetindustries are
Speaker 5: putting on a website that's been forced to be put
Speaker 5: on by a judge. They put a disclaimers saying, don't
Speaker 5: believe any of it because it's full of gender ideology.
Speaker 5: Who's running the show here?
Speaker 1: And you get the last word.
Speaker 8: Well, that is a real problem, and I'm hopeful that
Speaker 8: the US Supreme Court is going to step in and
Speaker 8: stop the kind of a use of the judicial system
Speaker 8: we see going on, which is where we have individual
Speaker 8: federal judges thinking they have more power than the President
Speaker 8: of the United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the duly elected president of the United States, who
Speaker 1: even CBS respondent say he's just fulfilling his campaign promises
Speaker 1: which they voted for. Anyway, we appreciate it. Roger, thank you, Hans,
Speaker 1: thank you eight hundred and nine to four one Shawn
Speaker 1: as a number. We'll hit the phones when we get back.
Speaker 1: You know, it was interesting I saw Hakeem Jeffries on
Speaker 1: with the Jonathan Carl at ABC News and just to
Speaker 1: watch the Democrats and the left that they are rudderless
Speaker 1: at this point. Let's listen in is.
Speaker 5: There anything you are seeing that the Trump is doing
Speaker 5: that you are in favor of?
Speaker 1: Do you think is the right thing?
Speaker 9: Let me say as it relates to all of those issues,
Speaker 9: we're just at the beginning, and the core promise that
Speaker 9: Donald Trump made is that he's going to lower call
Speaker 9: yes for everyday Americans. In fact, we were told that
Speaker 9: grocery prices would go down on day one. On January twentieth,
Speaker 9: costs aren't lower. In fact, costs are increasing. The price
Speaker 9: of eggs is skyrocketing out of control. Inflation is on
Speaker 9: the way up. That was the core promise that's been broken.
Speaker 9: With respect to immigration, listen, we have to secure the border.
Speaker 9: We have a broken immigration system and we need to
Speaker 9: fix it in a comprehensive and bipartisan way.
Speaker 1: Oh acknowledging that the economy was crap, well, let's progress
Speaker 1: and then blaming you know, oh, we got to secure
Speaker 1: our borders. But for four years we were told the
Speaker 1: borders is secure and the borders closed, and they just
Speaker 1: light on both fronts. Even though Donald Trump still is
Speaker 1: under the Biden Harris economy and will be for a
Speaker 1: certain period of time. Now, what Carl was asking is
Speaker 1: he was pointing out the Marquette poll sixty three percent
Speaker 1: favor of the federal government's recognition of only two sexes,
Speaker 1: txty percent favorite deporting immigrants that entered this country illegally,
Speaker 1: sixty percent favor expanding oil and gas production, fifty nine
Speaker 1: percent favor declaring an emergency at the southern border. And
Speaker 1: he didn't answer the question, is there anything that you
Speaker 1: can think of that Donald Trump is doing that you
Speaker 1: are in favor of, because there is no answer to this. Now,
Speaker 1: the Democrats have spent an extra three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five hours in the US Senate that they have burned,
Speaker 1: you know, delaying votes on Donald Trump's nominees. They're still
Speaker 1: getting through at a record pace. We found out that
Speaker 1: Jack Smith disclosed in his I guess his final disclosure
Speaker 1: form just in the weeks before he stepped down. And anyway,
Speaker 1: he apparently retained an outside council from Peter Cooski and
Speaker 1: Covington and Burling, which is the biggest law firm in Washington,
Speaker 1: d c. And in his final public disclosure report apparently
Speaker 1: included a section where he accepted one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of free legal services. Oh imagine if
Speaker 1: a Republican did this. But probably the most interesting comment
Speaker 1: came from Lyndy Lee, who was a well known fundraiser
Speaker 1: who raised money for the Democratic twenty four presidential campaign,
Speaker 1: announced she's leaving her exit from the party in December
Speaker 1: after being ostracized for criticizing you know, then former presidential
Speaker 1: nominee Vice President Kamala Harris. And he said, Democratic donors absolutely,
Speaker 1: without a single exception. They are so angry and upset
Speaker 1: with the state of the Democratic Party. They think this
Speaker 1: party is in complete shamble. She's not wrong, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to get out of the wilderness.
Speaker 1: She added, adding that the party has been hijacked by
Speaker 1: woke ideology. It is their religion, it is their god.
Speaker 1: Woke is their god. This trans woke insanity. They are
Speaker 1: enthralled by it, and companies are running as fast as
Speaker 1: they can from this toxic jam. Yet the Democratic parties
Speaker 1: doubling down on it, just like they're doubling down on spending,
Speaker 1: you know, reckless amounts of billions of dollars to advance
Speaker 1: woke and transgenderism and the radical Green New Deal and
Speaker 1: LGBTQ issues abroad. It's not even in this country. And
Speaker 1: you know, Carvel's out there trying to fly away a
Speaker 1: little bit, and you know he's saying Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: pouring gasoline and dropping lit matches across the federal government.
Speaker 1: Voters don't want their elected representatives acting like deer in
Speaker 1: the headlights. Well, if he goes back to his buddy
Speaker 1: Clinton and Al Gore, they sounded awful lot like Donald
Speaker 1: Trump today as we played in the last half hour. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So watching them, you know, one Democrat, even on fake
Speaker 1: new CNN, is we We talked about it on this
Speaker 1: program before I became a Democrat, because I wanted to
Speaker 1: fight NAFTA meaning untrade, unfair trade practices. I wanted to
Speaker 1: drain the swamp. I wanted to make sure my tax
Speaker 1: dollars weren't going to foreign wars are wasted. That sounds
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump today. One of our good friends, actually,
Speaker 1: Victor Davis Hansen writes, Democrats seem stuck in a cycle
Speaker 1: of rage and resistance. Yeah, that's that's that's who they are.
Speaker 1: This is now going to be four years. There's no
Speaker 1: more stages to go through of grief. First was the
Speaker 1: denial stage, and and then they put their head in
Speaker 1: the sands stage. Uh, and then the depression stage. And
Speaker 1: now they're back to the rage stage, which is where
Speaker 1: they usually are. It's and and they will try, and
Speaker 1: they will be resistant, and then they'll go for their
Speaker 1: impeachment if they ever get power pack even post presidency.
Speaker 1: I can see that. All right, let's get to our phones. Dan, California,
Speaker 1: the United Socialist Utopia. What's up, Dan the Man?
Speaker 10: How are you, hey, Sean? How's it going?
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Good afternoon, sir, what's up?
Speaker 10: I'm seeing everything at a record pace. I mean, they're
Speaker 10: they're cutting programs and all this kind of stuff around me.
Speaker 10: I see a lot of people in non affording medications.
Speaker 10: Medicare you know, gets bumped up every time they give
Speaker 10: so Security a raise. So once all this money starts
Speaker 10: settling down and starts being available, what's going to happen.
Speaker 10: You know, how's that going to be reallocated? You know,
Speaker 10: how how does that picture look or how do you
Speaker 10: think that picture is going to look?
Speaker 1: I think the way it's going to look is, I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna we're going to finally begin the process
Speaker 1: of getting our fiscal house and economic house in order.
Speaker 1: And it's it's not it's it's not an easy lift.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a comprehensive, multifaceted effort that includes
Speaker 1: cutting out waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption. That's that's a
Speaker 1: part of it. It's going to be as quickly as
Speaker 1: possible moving America into a place of energy dominance. It's
Speaker 1: also going to be you know, it's once we do
Speaker 1: these things, getting the economy back up and running again,
Speaker 1: lowering interest rates, making it a awordable for people to
Speaker 1: start living, then the economy will again regnite and hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, Americans won't be burdened with high credit card
Speaker 1: debt and high interest rates for their homes. I mean,
Speaker 1: fifty six percent of Americans, this is what Trump inherited.
Speaker 1: They can't afford one thousand dollars emergency. I mean that
Speaker 1: that is catastrophic for families if their car breaks down.
Speaker 1: If so, you know, the plumbing breaks, whatever it happens
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's scary fast you think this will happen. You know,
Speaker 10: how fast is this money freed up now that they
Speaker 10: can't use it anymore for what happens to it?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. You know, now that the money
Speaker 1: is not going to be used, well, hopefully that money
Speaker 1: gets spent to deport illegal immigrants, shore up Social Security
Speaker 1: and Medicare that are headed towards insolvency. Hopefully that money
Speaker 1: will be spent on pushing the economic agenda through that
Speaker 1: would include energy, dominance and all these other things the
Speaker 1: president you know, had promised on the campaign trow anyway,
Speaker 1: Dan uh, not sure if you care so much about
Speaker 1: this what you're doing out in California because you're paying
Speaker 1: the highest tax rate in the country. Right, quick break
Speaker 1: right back to our phones eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,
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Speaker 1: Adam in Texas, God bless Texas. Adam. What's going on?
Speaker 11: Hey, Sean? So I just had a few disagreements on
Speaker 11: dog so I partially agree with it, but at the
Speaker 11: same time, you know, for our agency, it really is
Speaker 11: not really computing for me. So I'm a teleworker for
Speaker 11: the Patent Office. We're the only agency that's defunded, and
Speaker 11: we don't really take a dime from taxpayers. We actually
Speaker 11: serve a big pharma, big tech, all these you know,
Speaker 11: big companies. We help start up, you know company.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patent Office is going to be
Speaker 1: closed down. Have you been let go? Is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying?
Speaker 11: No, No, we haven't been let go. But we are
Speaker 11: not exempt. My point is we're not exempt from the
Speaker 11: DOGE or anything like border patrol is or the air
Speaker 11: traffic controller people are you know, we still have the
Speaker 11: hiring freeze and we have a huge backlog of over
Speaker 11: eight hundred and twenty thousand pending, unexamined patent applications that
Speaker 11: haven't even been looked at. The timeline for your application,
Speaker 11: if you were to file one, is about two years.
Speaker 11: And uh with this hiring freeze, it takes about three
Speaker 11: to five years to train an examiner. And so by
Speaker 11: the time you know, this administration realizes, hey, you know
Speaker 11: there's a lot of pissed off you know companies out
Speaker 11: there that are not happy with the Patent Office and
Speaker 11: they figure out, well, we fired half of them or
Speaker 11: we're trying to rif the patent office. You know, how
Speaker 11: is that government efficiency? How is that going to stimulate
Speaker 11: the economy, because without.
Speaker 1: Patents, well, to be honest, what you're describing currently is
Speaker 1: not efficient. Well you're described what you're describing now. If
Speaker 1: the process as as Trump takes offices two years behind,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, you know, to retire from the
Speaker 1: federal government, I'm told it takes you six months, and
Speaker 1: they do it by hand, and they do it in
Speaker 1: some underground limestone cave somewhere. It's insane. You know, we
Speaker 1: do have something called computers. We have artificial intelligence, there
Speaker 1: there are there is technology that can be implemented that
Speaker 1: hopefully you know, would actually assist you in doing a
Speaker 1: better job and the people in your department from to
Speaker 1: help them do a better job.
Speaker 11: Right. Well, the thing is the patent office. We don't,
Speaker 11: like I said, we don't take a dime from taxpayer.
Speaker 11: So you know, I honestly I understand where dog is
Speaker 11: coming from, how they're spending tack payer money.
Speaker 1: But you're saying nobody in the patent office gets paid
Speaker 1: a penny.
Speaker 11: No, we don't take taxpayer money, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: The people who fund us are the big corporations. We
Speaker 11: even serve people companies in China, Germany, even countries.
Speaker 1: So you're an independent company, is it. But we do
Speaker 1: have a government patent office.
Speaker 11: Yes, that's what that's where. That's the agency I'm a
Speaker 11: part of. We don't take taxpayer money. We are totally
Speaker 11: fee funded by all these inventors from all over the world,
Speaker 11: including the United States.
Speaker 1: Well, you you basically advocate on behalf of inventors and
Speaker 1: people that create patents, is that what you're saying?
Speaker 11: Yes, and our agency as well, Well.
Speaker 1: No you're not. You're complating two issues. Here, either you're
Speaker 1: independent from the government or you're you're part of the government.
Speaker 1: You're saying you're independent from the government, so you're advocating I.
Speaker 11: Am, I'm a federal employee. I am the one.
Speaker 1: That's I just asked you that, and you said the opposite.
Speaker 11: No, I said, we're a fee funded.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't get paid by all. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: having a hard time understanding is do you have independent
Speaker 1: contractor status? Because the Patent and Trademark Office is part
Speaker 1: of the Department of Commerce that serves.
Speaker 11: Gs level associated with my position, So.
Speaker 1: You're a government and yeah, man, why was that so hard?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you just say that, Okay, nobody's getting laid off.
Speaker 1: And you're saying you're funded by outside groups. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure that that would be accurate. That doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me, because you're getting your check from
Speaker 1: the federal government, so the government's paying. You're saying outside groups,
Speaker 1: you know, pay fees or lobbyists to advocate for their position,
Speaker 1: which is different. But the office is not keeping up
Speaker 1: with the demand, that's for sure, and the services are
Speaker 1: are not particularly good and efficiency sounds like, you know,
Speaker 1: the order of the day for the Patent Office. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what it sounds like you're telling me.
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, No, that's not exactly what I'm telling you.
Speaker 11: I'm telling you the reason why is because the Patent
Speaker 11: Office we have trouble retaining examiners here because we have
Speaker 11: a performance mentor that must be met. We're treated like
Speaker 11: a small business. So if you you have to process
Speaker 11: a certain amount of patent applications every quarter, if you
Speaker 11: don't process enough patent applications and you're like, you know, slacking,
Speaker 11: there's a there's a hole.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is it is it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it unduly burdensome? Or is it a fair standard
Speaker 1: that they're applying for government workers.
Speaker 11: It depends on your GS level. So the higher GS
Speaker 11: level you are, the higher the demand of work that
Speaker 11: is required of you. So if you're barely starting, your
Speaker 11: demand is very well.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a supervisor, you would be responsible for
Speaker 1: the people underneath you, and that would count towards your number,
Speaker 1: which would mean you would logically have a higher number. Listen,
Speaker 1: we're getting too deep in the weeds here, and I
Speaker 1: think you're missing the over arching position of DOGE, which
Speaker 1: is to really find out what is obvious waste, fraud,
Speaker 1: abuse and corruption. What you're describing at the patent office
Speaker 1: sounds like one of the most inefficient departments within the
Speaker 1: Commerce Department, and it sounds like you're in a desperate
Speaker 1: need of reform. That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1: But you know, I can't. I can't spend much more
Speaker 1: precious airtime trying to claw this out of you. I'm
Speaker 1: trying my best anyway. I appreciate the call, wish you
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