1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, thanks scotch On an hour two Sean Hannity Show, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn our number if 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. The 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: freak out over Doge continues as they dug up another 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: one point nine billion dollars in taxpayer money misplaced quote 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: by the Biden man, how do you misplays one point 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: nine billion? You know, how is it? We're now you 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: know about where we're facing what is a massive, massive 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: debt in this country. And you know, the idea that 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: somehow Donald Trump saying, okay, this has got to stop. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: The American taxpayers were deceived. They did not They did 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: not spell out where this money was being spent, or 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: how was being spent, or her radical you know, this 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: money abroad was And as a result, as the American 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: people get more and more aware of it, they're just 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: getting sick and tired of it. Most Democrats remain in 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: freak out mode and they will forever stay there, probably 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: throughout the entire Trump presidency. Lee Zeldon announced a fifty 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: million dollar environmental justice contract that he had to cancel 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: for the Palestinians and Republicans, by the way, are unleashing 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: something that was first put in place by Thomas Jefferson himself, 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: which is the empowerment clause, which is the practice of 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: declining to spend funds provided by Congress. And I think 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: they will be successful in that effort, you know, considering 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: our founders, framers were very clear about their belief in 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: limited government greater freedom. But the bottom line freak out continues. 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Although there are a couple of Democrats interestingly that you know, 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: we saw the Obama guys in their little podcasts, Pod 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Save America whatever it is, saying you know what, and 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: we think of this idea. Well, you have some Democrats 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: now admitting, oh DOJ is a good idea? Good? Maybe 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: they'll maybe they'll put their money where their mouth is 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: and their votes where their mouth is. Let's listen. 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: And I think we're missing the vote as Democrats. And 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: all I'm saying is that sometimes it's better to join 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: them and actually play a role in how the strategy works, 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: rather than so pathetically, frankly try to combat something that 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: clearly is a steamroller. And Democrats are being steamrolled and 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm deeply concerned about that. Yes, Musk is not elected, 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: he has no accountability other than Donald Trump, and that's 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: a frightening combination. 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: Okay, and then we add the people you know very well, 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: be very clear up front, you do not want to 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: some responsible conservative Republican who's going to save us for this. Yeah, 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: well they didn't come. They're not there. Okay, let's just 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: get over it. They're not coming to Calvary's not coming 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: to courts, are not coming, and they need nothing. And 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: where do we pick our fights. 49 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: We all the government can be inefficient. We all know 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: that the bureaucracy can be bloated. We all worked in 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: the White House. We tried to reorganize the government. We 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: tried to find efficiency. It's hard to do. 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: And honestly, some of. 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: This is pretty annoying because some of the stuff we 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: should have done. Yeah, yeah, you could. 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: Do some of them. 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: You just got to talk shin zam. You're like, I 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: can dig these dojah cats. Oh, pretty interesting their reaction 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to this. We're going to be joined in a minute 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: by Hans von Spakowski and Rogers Everino. But Hans, in 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: an article said, like spoiled children finally being told no 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: by their parents, bureaucrats beneficiaries of wasteful government largess are 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: howling at the shock waves that the Department of Government 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Efficiency is now sending through Washington. NBC called it an 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: unprecedented effort to shrink the federal workforce and slash programs. Well, 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: not exactly, you know. And and the second part of 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: this story, the untold part of this story is, you know, 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: why were it you know, why weren't the inspectors generals 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: doing their job, which you know they're now removed. How 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: do we have a GAO report? I believe that came out. 71 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: What that showed two hundred and thirty six billion taxpayer 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: dollars wasted last year alone by the Biden administration. You know, 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: at what point does it become a financial national emergency 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: to examine every line item in every single bill so 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: that this waste, fraud, abuse, and I'm sure corruption associated 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: with it when we get to the bottom line, is 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: being squandered and while the average American toils away making 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: sixty six thousand dollars a year, At some point we've 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: got to admit this is just utter madness and insanity 80 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: and it's unsustainable. And yet you're you're gonna get to 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the point, you know where debt to GDP ratio is 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: going to be so high, is going to be higher 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: than at any point during World War two, and that 84 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: becomes an unsustainable economy. That is not an economy where 85 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: any country can flourish. And we've seen this happen abroad. 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Rogers Sevorino, Vice President Domestic Policy, Heritage Foundation, and also 87 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Hans van Spokovski is with us, and he, of course 88 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: has this article, is the managing Election Law Reform Initiative 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: and senior legal fellow at the EDME Center for Legal 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: and Judicial Studies. Guys, good to have you both. Hans. 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: I read your article. I thought it was extraordinarily well done, 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what's happening. They are. They're acting like 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: spoiled children that have finally been set you know, told no. 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: But I think a bigger story that will unfold over 95 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: time is that the degree to which they hid this 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: from congressional oversight and from inspectors generals, well. 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 6: That is absolutely true. And the fact that they're getting 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 6: so upset is because it's being exposed. And look, you know, 99 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 6: most people, the public particularly, we believe in transparency, but 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: they are very upset that all this besizarre crazy, in fact, 101 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 6: dangerous spending is coming to light. You know, the biggest 102 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: thing about this Sean is they keep saying it unprecedented. 103 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: It's not unprecedented. Eisen Dwight Eisenhower, when he got elected, 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: he came in and said, boy, this government is wasteful, 105 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: it's inefficient. And you know, he actually formed a committee. 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 6: His committee was called the Committee on Government Organization. It 107 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 6: was composed of his brother and a very rich, successful 108 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 6: business guy named Nelson Rockefeller. And is all this sound familiar? 109 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: It sounds familiar. And I can give you another attempt 110 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to limit the seis scope influencer government. And unfortunately, Congress 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: didn't do a thing to act on any of the 112 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: recommendations of the famous Grace Commission. During the Reagan years, 113 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: these were the best, brightest business minds in the country 114 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and they were tasked with with trying to come up 115 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: with ways to make the government more efficient and Roger 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: the Congress adopted none of them. And Reagan's, you know, 117 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: hands were tied at the time, and Trump's, his hands 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: are not going to be tied at the end of 119 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: the day. This is not going to be something that 120 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: is going to fly with the American people. Once the 121 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: American people understand the magnitude of fraud, waste, abuse, and corruption. 122 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: It's going to be a ninety ten issue. I don't 123 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: even think their own party in the end will support it. 124 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: In spite of all the hysteria, the singing, you know, 125 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: the screaming and you know, ranting and raving. I don't 126 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to work well. 127 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: Elon Musk. He actually tweeted that al Gore was the 128 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: one who spearheaded reinventing government and all these clips of 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: him saying We're going to end waste, fraud and abuse 130 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: over and over again. Well, Doge is actually doing it 131 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: for once, actually doing it, and it reminds me of 132 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: COVID when all the kids had to do remote learning 133 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: and the parents finally figured out, this is the drivel 134 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: that my kids are being exposed to. And that's what's 135 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: happening now. Now we're finally discovering where all this money went. 136 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: If we're spending you know, a billion dollars for DEI 137 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 5: all across the world using USAAD funds, or we're funding 138 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: immigrants in hotels in downtown Manhattan did a tune of 139 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: eighty million dollars that is now being called backco. We're 140 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: saying whoahoa, whoa. This is not what we signed up for. 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: Where's my hotel? Where's my free food? You know, we're 142 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: struggling here. We have inflation for the last you know, 143 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 5: five years. What about us? Why are we wasting all 144 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: this money without accountability? And actually, finally there's some accountability. 145 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: Those DHS deep staters who authorize that funding for the 146 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: hotel for migrants contrary to the President's orders are now fired. 147 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 5: That would have never happened before Trump and before Elon Musk. 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: And you know, Hans, if you go back, remember we 149 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: had a group in Washington that was somewhat influential citizens 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: against government waste, and they would find examples, egregious examples 151 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: of government misspending, nothing on the scale of what we're 152 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: looking at here. I mean this this is you know, 153 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: human growth hormones, steroids, maximum doses, and you know, I 154 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: remember reading one hundred and nine thousand dollars to studying 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: the mating habits of the Japanese quail, and you know 156 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: is and I won't spend the time to go through 157 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the massive list of what they have discovered so far, 158 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: but at the magnitude of this is you're talking about 159 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there is going to 160 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: be hundreds of billions of dollars. In my interview with 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, he thinks that'll go over a trillion dollars. 162 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: Oh, I agree. And look, the problem in the past 163 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 6: was that even when that kind of thing was discovered, 164 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: nothing was done about it. And here we actually have 165 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 6: an administration and we have heads of major cabinet departments 166 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: who are doing something about it. I mean, the new 167 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 6: head of the Department Agriculture has already canceled two hundred 168 00:09:53,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 6: million dollars in bizarre spending on outside contracts of of 169 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 6: all kind. We've got us AID being shut down, which 170 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: has been spending huge amounts of money on ridiculous projects. 171 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 6: So they're actually trying to do something about it. And 172 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 6: that also, that is that has not been done before. 173 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's not been done before, and to this extent, 174 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean as you go agency by agency by agency, 175 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: and I think part of Look, the mainstream media is 176 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: just screaming and yelling about it. And the question I 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: have is where have they been. I mean, they all 178 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: claim to be journalists, they all claim, you know, to 179 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: be at the top of their profession. I argue that 180 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: legacy media is dead. Why why didn't they ever discover this, Roger? 181 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Why didn't they ask questions? How was the Biden administration 182 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, so successful of in terms of their ability 183 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: to ignore Congressional oversight, which is, you know, their constitutional function. 184 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: And when the likes of Joanie Earnst and the House 185 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee and other different committees were looking into how 186 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the monies were actually spent, you know, all they did 187 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: is steimy them, a stonewall them, and then give them 188 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: broad interpretations of how the money is being spent without 189 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: any of the specificity that we now knew existed the 190 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: whole time. 191 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, so why doesn't the media report on it? Well, 192 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: because they're in on it too. We've discovered that political 193 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: was getting millions of dollars in these subscriptions beyond the 194 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: regular This is a political pro hundreds of thousands and 195 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: millions of dollars. So the media was in on it too. 196 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: They're being funded by the federal government. So this is 197 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: the shocking thing that's being discovered. Why is it that 198 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: the media is getting you know, grants or any sort 199 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: of funding from the federal So. 200 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: They weren't being subsidized that we could confirm that this 201 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: is all subscription money. 202 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 5: These were subscriptions. 203 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: All right, quick break more with Roger Severino and Hans Polkovsky, 204 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: who will join us on the other side. We'll get 205 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: to your calls going up as well. Eight hundred and 206 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: ninety four one sean is our number. All right, we continue. 207 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Hans von Spakovski and Roger Severino is with us talking 208 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: about the issue of Doze in the left wing freakout. 209 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: Let me play Al Gore in nineteen ninety three, which 210 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned. I mean, it is funny, you know, this 211 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: is how far the Democratic Party has come or how 212 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: low they've sunk. 213 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 7: This report tells us out of cut waste, cut red tape, 214 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 7: streamline the bureaucracy, change procurement rule, change the personnel rules, 215 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: and create a government that works better and costs less. 216 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 7: I've read it and where it says the president should 217 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 7: the president will. 218 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump and 219 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, doesn't it? 220 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: Roger, yeah, does so? Why is it that we're spending 221 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: seventy thousand dollars for a DII musical in Ireland forty 222 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: seven thousand for a transgender opera in Colombia? One point 223 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: five million for DEI in Serbia's workplaces. Right, these sorts 224 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 5: of things should never have happened, and somebody was asleep 225 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: at the wheel, and too many people were benefiting from it. 226 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: The deep state was hiding it. This is all coming 227 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 5: to an end finally, But here's one thing that has 228 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: to be reported on more. If judges led it, so 229 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: law Fair against Trump sailed. Now they're trying to stop 230 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 5: law Trump's agenda through law Fair. So now all these 231 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: injunctions trying to prevent Trump from blocking the funds, trying 232 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: to prevent Trump from executing on his executive orders. 233 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: But this is one oh one right out of the 234 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: democratic liberal democratic playbook, which is what they can't get 235 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: accomplished at the ballot box, what they can't get done legislatively, 236 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: they go to the courts and they hope they find 237 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: liberal activist judges that will help, at a minimum, delay 238 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: the process of a duly elected president fulfilling his promises. 239 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, that's right. These federal judges are now becoming 240 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 5: essentially federal employees because they are micromanaging individual grants, they 241 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 5: are micromanaging what's being put on a website. So they 242 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: were ordered to restore CDC websites pages on how to 243 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: treat certain diseases, even though it had the gender ideology 244 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 5: from the Biden era department, Right, who is running the department, 245 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: Who's running CDC, who's running AKHS, A federal judge or 246 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 5: the president and his appointees. It looks like the federal 247 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: judge is in charge of it. So I have this 248 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: odd thing where you have disclaimers that the trumpetindustries are 249 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: putting on a website that's been forced to be put 250 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: on by a judge. They put a disclaimers saying, don't 251 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: believe any of it because it's full of gender ideology. 252 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: Who's running the show here? 253 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: And you get the last word. 254 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 8: Well, that is a real problem, and I'm hopeful that 255 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 8: the US Supreme Court is going to step in and 256 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 8: stop the kind of a use of the judicial system 257 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 8: we see going on, which is where we have individual 258 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 8: federal judges thinking they have more power than the President 259 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 8: of the United States. 260 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the duly elected president of the United States, who 261 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: even CBS respondent say he's just fulfilling his campaign promises 262 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: which they voted for. Anyway, we appreciate it. Roger, thank you, Hans, 263 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: thank you eight hundred and nine to four one Shawn 264 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: as a number. We'll hit the phones when we get back. 265 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, it was interesting I saw Hakeem Jeffries on 266 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: with the Jonathan Carl at ABC News and just to 267 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: watch the Democrats and the left that they are rudderless 268 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: at this point. Let's listen in is. 269 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: There anything you are seeing that the Trump is doing 270 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: that you are in favor of? 271 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: Do you think is the right thing? 272 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 9: Let me say as it relates to all of those issues, 273 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 9: we're just at the beginning, and the core promise that 274 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 9: Donald Trump made is that he's going to lower call 275 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 9: yes for everyday Americans. In fact, we were told that 276 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 9: grocery prices would go down on day one. On January twentieth, 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 9: costs aren't lower. In fact, costs are increasing. The price 278 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 9: of eggs is skyrocketing out of control. Inflation is on 279 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 9: the way up. That was the core promise that's been broken. 280 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 9: With respect to immigration, listen, we have to secure the border. 281 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 9: We have a broken immigration system and we need to 282 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 9: fix it in a comprehensive and bipartisan way. 283 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: Oh acknowledging that the economy was crap, well, let's progress 284 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: and then blaming you know, oh, we got to secure 285 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: our borders. But for four years we were told the 286 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: borders is secure and the borders closed, and they just 287 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: light on both fronts. Even though Donald Trump still is 288 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: under the Biden Harris economy and will be for a 289 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: certain period of time. Now, what Carl was asking is 290 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: he was pointing out the Marquette poll sixty three percent 291 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: favor of the federal government's recognition of only two sexes, 292 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: txty percent favorite deporting immigrants that entered this country illegally, 293 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: sixty percent favor expanding oil and gas production, fifty nine 294 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: percent favor declaring an emergency at the southern border. And 295 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: he didn't answer the question, is there anything that you 296 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: can think of that Donald Trump is doing that you 297 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: are in favor of, because there is no answer to this. Now, 298 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats have spent an extra three hundred and twenty 299 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: five hours in the US Senate that they have burned, 300 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, delaying votes on Donald Trump's nominees. They're still 301 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: getting through at a record pace. We found out that 302 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: Jack Smith disclosed in his I guess his final disclosure 303 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: form just in the weeks before he stepped down. And anyway, 304 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: he apparently retained an outside council from Peter Cooski and 305 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: Covington and Burling, which is the biggest law firm in Washington, 306 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: d c. And in his final public disclosure report apparently 307 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: included a section where he accepted one hundred and forty 308 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of free legal services. Oh imagine if 309 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: a Republican did this. But probably the most interesting comment 310 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: came from Lyndy Lee, who was a well known fundraiser 311 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: who raised money for the Democratic twenty four presidential campaign, 312 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: announced she's leaving her exit from the party in December 313 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: after being ostracized for criticizing you know, then former presidential 314 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: nominee Vice President Kamala Harris. And he said, Democratic donors absolutely, 315 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: without a single exception. They are so angry and upset 316 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: with the state of the Democratic Party. They think this 317 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: party is in complete shamble. She's not wrong, and I 318 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to get out of the wilderness. 319 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: She added, adding that the party has been hijacked by 320 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: woke ideology. It is their religion, it is their god. 321 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Woke is their god. This trans woke insanity. They are 322 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: enthralled by it, and companies are running as fast as 323 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: they can from this toxic jam. Yet the Democratic parties 324 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: doubling down on it, just like they're doubling down on spending, 325 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, reckless amounts of billions of dollars to advance 326 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: woke and transgenderism and the radical Green New Deal and 327 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: LGBTQ issues abroad. It's not even in this country. And 328 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, Carvel's out there trying to fly away a 329 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: little bit, and you know he's saying Elon Musk is 330 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: pouring gasoline and dropping lit matches across the federal government. 331 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: Voters don't want their elected representatives acting like deer in 332 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: the headlights. Well, if he goes back to his buddy 333 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: Clinton and Al Gore, they sounded awful lot like Donald 334 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Trump today as we played in the last half hour. Anyway, 335 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: So watching them, you know, one Democrat, even on fake 336 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: new CNN, is we We talked about it on this 337 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: program before I became a Democrat, because I wanted to 338 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: fight NAFTA meaning untrade, unfair trade practices. I wanted to 339 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: drain the swamp. I wanted to make sure my tax 340 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: dollars weren't going to foreign wars are wasted. That sounds 341 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump today. One of our good friends, actually, 342 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Victor Davis Hansen writes, Democrats seem stuck in a cycle 343 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: of rage and resistance. Yeah, that's that's that's who they are. 344 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: This is now going to be four years. There's no 345 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: more stages to go through of grief. First was the 346 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: denial stage, and and then they put their head in 347 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: the sands stage. Uh, and then the depression stage. And 348 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: now they're back to the rage stage, which is where 349 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: they usually are. It's and and they will try, and 350 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: they will be resistant, and then they'll go for their 351 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: impeachment if they ever get power pack even post presidency. 352 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I can see that. All right, let's get to our phones. Dan, California, 353 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the United Socialist Utopia. What's up, Dan the Man? 354 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 10: How are you, hey, Sean? How's it going? 355 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Good afternoon, sir, what's up? 356 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 10: I'm seeing everything at a record pace. I mean, they're 357 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 10: they're cutting programs and all this kind of stuff around me. 358 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 10: I see a lot of people in non affording medications. 359 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 10: Medicare you know, gets bumped up every time they give 360 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 10: so Security a raise. So once all this money starts 361 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 10: settling down and starts being available, what's going to happen. 362 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 10: You know, how's that going to be reallocated? You know, 363 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 10: how how does that picture look or how do you 364 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 10: think that picture is going to look? 365 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: I think the way it's going to look is, I 366 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: think we're gonna we're going to finally begin the process 367 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: of getting our fiscal house and economic house in order. 368 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: And it's it's not it's it's not an easy lift. 369 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be a comprehensive, multifaceted effort that includes 370 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: cutting out waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption. That's that's a 371 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: part of it. It's going to be as quickly as 372 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: possible moving America into a place of energy dominance. It's 373 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: also going to be you know, it's once we do 374 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: these things, getting the economy back up and running again, 375 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: lowering interest rates, making it a awordable for people to 376 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: start living, then the economy will again regnite and hopefully, 377 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, Americans won't be burdened with high credit card 378 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: debt and high interest rates for their homes. I mean, 379 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: fifty six percent of Americans, this is what Trump inherited. 380 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: They can't afford one thousand dollars emergency. I mean that 381 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: that is catastrophic for families if their car breaks down. 382 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: If so, you know, the plumbing breaks, whatever it happens 383 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: to be. 384 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's scary fast you think this will happen. You know, 385 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 10: how fast is this money freed up now that they 386 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 10: can't use it anymore for what happens to it? 387 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: That's a great question. You know, now that the money 388 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: is not going to be used, well, hopefully that money 389 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: gets spent to deport illegal immigrants, shore up Social Security 390 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: and Medicare that are headed towards insolvency. Hopefully that money 391 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: will be spent on pushing the economic agenda through that 392 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: would include energy, dominance and all these other things the 393 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: president you know, had promised on the campaign trow anyway, 394 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: Dan uh, not sure if you care so much about 395 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: this what you're doing out in California because you're paying 396 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the highest tax rate in the country. Right, quick break 397 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: right back to our phones eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, 398 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the program 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: my interview with President Trump and Elon Musk tomorrow night 400 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: on Hannity on the Fox News Channel, I hope you'll 401 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: watch and sit your DVR every night nine Eastern. Look, 402 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: we all voted got big government out we want a 403 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: fishing government in well, now it's time to trim the 404 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: fat in ways that you can because it's still the 405 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: Biden Harris economy until we get this reconciliation bill sometime 406 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: hopefully in May, no later than June. 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Pound two 422 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: to fifty keywords save now from Pure Talk America's wireless company. 423 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: The Final Hour roundup is next. You do not want 424 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: to miss it, and stay tuned for the final hour 425 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: free for all on the Sean Hannity Show. 426 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: All right, we continue now with our busy phones. Eight 427 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: hundred and nine to four one. Shawn is our number. 428 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: Adam in Texas, God bless Texas. Adam. What's going on? 429 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 11: Hey, Sean? So I just had a few disagreements on 430 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 11: dog so I partially agree with it, but at the 431 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 11: same time, you know, for our agency, it really is 432 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 11: not really computing for me. So I'm a teleworker for 433 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 11: the Patent Office. We're the only agency that's defunded, and 434 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 11: we don't really take a dime from taxpayers. We actually 435 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 11: serve a big pharma, big tech, all these you know, 436 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 11: big companies. We help start up, you know company. 437 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the Patent Office is going to be 438 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: closed down. Have you been let go? Is that what 439 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: you're saying? 440 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 11: No, No, we haven't been let go. But we are 441 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 11: not exempt. My point is we're not exempt from the 442 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 11: DOGE or anything like border patrol is or the air 443 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 11: traffic controller people are you know, we still have the 444 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 11: hiring freeze and we have a huge backlog of over 445 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 11: eight hundred and twenty thousand pending, unexamined patent applications that 446 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 11: haven't even been looked at. The timeline for your application, 447 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 11: if you were to file one, is about two years. 448 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 11: And uh with this hiring freeze, it takes about three 449 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 11: to five years to train an examiner. And so by 450 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 11: the time you know, this administration realizes, hey, you know 451 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 11: there's a lot of pissed off you know companies out 452 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 11: there that are not happy with the Patent Office and 453 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 11: they figure out, well, we fired half of them or 454 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 11: we're trying to rif the patent office. You know, how 455 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 11: is that government efficiency? How is that going to stimulate 456 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 11: the economy, because without. 457 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Patents, well, to be honest, what you're describing currently is 458 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: not efficient. Well you're described what you're describing now. If 459 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: the process as as Trump takes offices two years behind, 460 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: it's sort of like, you know, to retire from the 461 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: federal government, I'm told it takes you six months, and 462 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: they do it by hand, and they do it in 463 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: some underground limestone cave somewhere. It's insane. You know, we 464 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: do have something called computers. We have artificial intelligence, there 465 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: there are there is technology that can be implemented that 466 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: hopefully you know, would actually assist you in doing a 467 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: better job and the people in your department from to 468 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: help them do a better job. 469 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 11: Right. Well, the thing is the patent office. We don't, 470 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 11: like I said, we don't take a dime from taxpayer. 471 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 11: So you know, I honestly I understand where dog is 472 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 11: coming from, how they're spending tack payer money. 473 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: But you're saying nobody in the patent office gets paid 474 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: a penny. 475 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 11: No, we don't take taxpayer money, is what I'm saying. 476 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 11: The people who fund us are the big corporations. We 477 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 11: even serve people companies in China, Germany, even countries. 478 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: So you're an independent company, is it. But we do 479 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: have a government patent office. 480 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 11: Yes, that's what that's where. That's the agency I'm a 481 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 11: part of. We don't take taxpayer money. We are totally 482 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 11: fee funded by all these inventors from all over the world, 483 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 11: including the United States. 484 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: Well, you you basically advocate on behalf of inventors and 485 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: people that create patents, is that what you're saying? 486 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 11: Yes, and our agency as well, Well. 487 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: No you're not. You're complating two issues. Here, either you're 488 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: independent from the government or you're you're part of the government. 489 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: You're saying you're independent from the government, so you're advocating I. 490 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 11: Am, I'm a federal employee. I am the one. 491 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: That's I just asked you that, and you said the opposite. 492 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 11: No, I said, we're a fee funded. 493 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't get paid by all. Right, I'm 494 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: having a hard time understanding is do you have independent 495 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: contractor status? Because the Patent and Trademark Office is part 496 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: of the Department of Commerce that serves. 497 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 11: Gs level associated with my position, So. 498 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: You're a government and yeah, man, why was that so hard? 499 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Why couldn't you just say that, Okay, nobody's getting laid off. 500 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: And you're saying you're funded by outside groups. Well, I'm 501 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: not so sure that that would be accurate. That doesn't 502 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: make sense to me, because you're getting your check from 503 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: the federal government, so the government's paying. You're saying outside groups, 504 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, pay fees or lobbyists to advocate for their position, 505 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: which is different. But the office is not keeping up 506 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: with the demand, that's for sure, and the services are 507 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: are not particularly good and efficiency sounds like, you know, 508 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: the order of the day for the Patent Office. That's 509 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: what That's what it sounds like you're telling me. 510 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 11: I'm sorry, No, that's not exactly what I'm telling you. 511 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 11: I'm telling you the reason why is because the Patent 512 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 11: Office we have trouble retaining examiners here because we have 513 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 11: a performance mentor that must be met. We're treated like 514 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 11: a small business. So if you you have to process 515 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 11: a certain amount of patent applications every quarter, if you 516 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 11: don't process enough patent applications and you're like, you know, slacking, 517 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 11: there's a there's a hole. 518 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is it is it? Is it? 519 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: Is it unduly burdensome? Or is it a fair standard 520 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: that they're applying for government workers. 521 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 11: It depends on your GS level. So the higher GS 522 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 11: level you are, the higher the demand of work that 523 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 11: is required of you. So if you're barely starting, your 524 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 11: demand is very well. 525 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you're a supervisor, you would be responsible for 526 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the people underneath you, and that would count towards your number, 527 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: which would mean you would logically have a higher number. Listen, 528 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: we're getting too deep in the weeds here, and I 529 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: think you're missing the over arching position of DOGE, which 530 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: is to really find out what is obvious waste, fraud, 531 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: abuse and corruption. What you're describing at the patent office 532 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: sounds like one of the most inefficient departments within the 533 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: Commerce Department, and it sounds like you're in a desperate 534 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: need of reform. That's what it sounds like to me. 535 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I can't. I can't spend much more 536 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: precious airtime trying to claw this out of you. I'm 537 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: trying my best anyway. 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