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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: Big breaking news to get to. Just days away from Iowa, Man,

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Speaker 2: we are racked and stacked. Let's just give you a

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Speaker 2: sense of where we're going here. Obviously, the air strikes

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Speaker 2: against missile strikes against who the targets are getting people

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Speaker 2: very concerned. This is in Yemen. We'll break this all

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Speaker 2: down for you here in a second. But the question

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Speaker 2: is being asked, are we getting drawn into what could

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Speaker 2: be a more extended conflict in the Middle East?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are we getting drawn into yet another Middle East war?

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Speaker 2: That's the question that's out there. We'll try to answer

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Speaker 2: some of that for you here today. We also have

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Speaker 2: some updates on the status of the US Secretary of Defense,

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Speaker 2: more from the Trump legal world of things. White House

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Speaker 2: logs revealing a Leticia James visit apparently, which I think

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Speaker 2: people are going to need to have a conversation about.

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Speaker 2: So we'll discuss that one. And then also, we're just

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Speaker 2: days away from Iowa. Now we're going to get past

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Speaker 2: what do we think is happening in this GOP primary

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Speaker 2: to what is happening in this GUP primary as in

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Speaker 2: votes votes cast. But Clay, I wanted to start off

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Speaker 2: today because I know we've got We've got a lot more. Also,

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Speaker 2: we're going to hit start off today with what's going

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Speaker 2: on in Yemen. Here is a Lieutenant Colonel Davis, for example,

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Speaker 2: saying that these strikes in Yemen have the potential to

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Speaker 4: This has every chance to escalate to a higher level

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Speaker 4: because the Huthis have expressly said if we attack them

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Speaker 4: on their territory, they're going to start attacking Americans and

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Speaker 4: American interest in the region. What is our plan for that?

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Speaker 4: And look, this is a potential I could draw us

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Speaker 4: into a war, and I think the President owes it

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Speaker 4: to the American people to the company's doing to make

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Speaker 4: sure we want to go into a war. I don't,

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Speaker 4: but I'd like to hear from the White House on

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Speaker 4: exactly what the plan is and how this follows American law.

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Speaker 2: And the Constitution, which it doesn't. So Clay some some

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Speaker 2: context here before we sort of dive into even more

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Speaker 2: of of the what this means. A couple of days ago,

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Speaker 2: the Huthi rebels, now the Huthis are a Shia group

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Speaker 2: inside of Iran. They're Shia Muslims backed by Iran. So

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Speaker 2: they are I'm sorry, inside of Yemen, back by Iran.

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Speaker 2: So they are Yemeni but back by the Iranian government.

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Speaker 2: And they are, like Hesbalah and Hamas, effectively a proxy

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So they're and they've been fighting in Yemen for many

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Speaker 2: years now. There was a Saudi air campaign. A lot

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Speaker 2: of Yemeni's have been killed in this. It's a mess.

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Speaker 2: You got a civil war ongoing in Yemen. You have

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Speaker 2: an Al Qaeda, a strong Al Qaeda faction still operating

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Speaker 2: in the center of the country. Yemen is one of

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Speaker 2: the poorest countries in the entire Middle East. It's on

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Speaker 2: track to run out of potable drinking water. It's gonna be,

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Speaker 2: the United States. So the good news is we're still

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Speaker 2: major challenges going on that in that country. And here's

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Speaker 2: what's happening with the Red Sea, and these missile strikes

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Speaker 2: they fired into the Red Sea. Drones and missile strikes.

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Speaker 2: They didn't hit any shipping. But this area somewhat similar

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Speaker 2: percent of the world's all shipping stuff, grain, food, oil,

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Speaker 2: If they actually hit now, we just hit them with

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Speaker 2: retaliatory strikes. If they actually start hitting some of these ships,

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Speaker 2: we've got a big problem because we're going into Yemen

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Speaker 3: So here's my biggest takeaway.

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Speaker 1: I believe our secretary Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was helping

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Speaker 1: War three. Well, now we've got war already in the

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Speaker 1: feels like to me, this is a fairly substantial escalation

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Speaker 1: That's scary to me from a leadership perspective.

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Speaker 2: It's also showing everybody right now, think about this. They're

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Speaker 2: firing missiles and drones. This Iranian proxy militia group. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's a military, folks, it's effectively it's a non

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Speaker 2: state military force. They've got advanced weaponry, heavy weaponry. They've

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Speaker 2: been fighting against you know, fighting against the government in

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Speaker 2: and their their aerial bombardments. So they're firing off at

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Speaker 2: always have to be reminded that most global commerce, actually

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't have freedom of navigation, the

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Speaker 3: Just look at what.

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Speaker 1: Happened when that one ship got stuck sideways in the

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Speaker 2: Now imagine the hoo theyes, now there's you know, there's

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Speaker 2: fortunately they don't have a very high level of of

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Speaker 3: Tactical ability.

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Speaker 2: But what if they get lucky clay and they hit

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Speaker 2: Their thing is always we're going to start blowing up

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Speaker 3: So these are all the complexities of this. But we

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Speaker 2: Talking about chain of command and the Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 2: for a few days, right, and what was the Left

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Speaker 2: saying it's not a big deal. No, it actually is

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Speaker 2: here's John Kirby telling everybody that Lloyd Austin is directing

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Speaker 3: Play three.

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Speaker 5: Secretary Austin ordered these strives. He's been in the hospital,

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Speaker 5: as we've been reporting since January first, can you shed

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Speaker 5: more light on how he directed these strikes from the hospital.

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Speaker 6: He was involved actively and intimately all day yesterday with

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Speaker 6: of course with the Command in Chief, with President Biden

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Speaker 6: tracking all the developments and write in on all the

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Speaker 6: to go ahead and launch these strikes. He was fully engaged,

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Speaker 2: You know, Clay, this goes to the common I think

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Speaker 2: you raised this point before the competency of not just Biden,

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Speaker 2: but you know there's the people around him, right, and

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Speaker 2: the Secretary Defense, no one knows where he is.

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Speaker 3: That could have happened a few days ago. How do

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up because I was

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Speaker 1: then he didn't do it. How is it possible that

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Speaker 3: I believe he was at Walter Reed right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for five days and no one at the White

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Speaker 1: the scandal has been underreported. You have the number two

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Speaker 1: the entire Defense Department and she didn't even know that

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Speaker 1: a crazy scandal.

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Speaker 3: Now, It's one thing we understand.

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Speaker 2: Technology allows you know remote you know when the president's

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Speaker 3: You were in the CIA.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that's crazy that he could be at

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Speaker 2: This is why, Clay, it's a real it's a real scandal.

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Speaker 2: It's not just a partisan you know moments in DC

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Speaker 2: it's it shows a breakdown in communication and competency. And

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Speaker 2: I would also add anyone who thinks that timing with

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Speaker 2: to go talk to the heroes of Benghazi who had

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Speaker 1: But the latest is we're tiptoeing towards war and the

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing. Sally in North Carolina, you were

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Speaker 7: What was your reaction, Oh, I knew it wasn't true

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Speaker 7: Didn't want anybody to know. Well, it came out in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: So what this is just not true, right, and I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're working a former military it's some occurrent thank

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Speaker 3: What are they telling you? They're the same same thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all saying, there's just no way when

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Speaker 2: I'm a retired marine, work for the Navy and an

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Speaker 3: How is that happening?

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Speaker 2: Just saying I mean maybe they can turn the hotel

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Speaker 1: And and to your point, they're not putting the Defense

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Speaker 3: He was in the freaking ICU.

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Speaker 2: the Russia collusion narrative against Trump, stretching back to twenty

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Speaker 2: setup was that with more information, Trump looked better. With

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Speaker 2: they fabricated evidence. At one point, that's a matter of record.

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Speaker 2: as well. Right, they were trying to get Trump on

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Speaker 2: obstruction of justice. This is not the first time they

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Speaker 2: the latest iteration of it. Well, we're finding out now

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Speaker 2: We get it, right, that's established. We've known that all along.

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Speaker 2: But Letitia James in the state of New York and

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Speaker 2: Fanny Willis. Now that's the civil trial in New York.

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Speaker 2: There's also the criminal trial by Alvin Bragg. Fanny Willis

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Speaker 5: We saw that there was a meeting in August, the

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Speaker 5: I believe there are also reports that she had been

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Speaker 3: This is not normal.

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Speaker 5: She is a New York Attorney General, voted by the

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Speaker 3: There are no coincidences.

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Speaker 2: This is like this is like the Clinton attorney general

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Speaker 1: Everybody, I know sometimes you love when I'm definitive, and

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Speaker 1: There has been a huge conspiracy to go after Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: with him funded by the state of Georgia, broke up

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Speaker 1: his marriage, according to the wife of the man that

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Speaker 1: she hired, and he is not an illustrious, brilliant, top

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Speaker 1: of the line lawyer.

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Speaker 3: If you were going to be hiring somebody, you can

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Speaker 3: tell everybody about the website. Tell every about the website.

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Speaker 1: You can pull up this guy's website, text me his

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Speaker 1: name if you would. Guys, I was reading his website

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Speaker 1: yesterday because I was like, all right, who is this

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Speaker 1: guy that was allegedly having an affair with Fanny Willis

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Speaker 1: that's now all caught up in the divorce. Buck, you

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Speaker 1: can go right now on his website and you can

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Speaker 1: retain him if you get in a fender bender in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: He's got almost no criminal law experience at all.

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Speaker 3: Think about that.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to me right now in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and you are driving around in your car and you

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Speaker 1: run into somebody or somebody runs into you, and you

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Speaker 1: need a traffic lawyer, you can go on this guy's

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Speaker 1: website and you can retain him right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I have probably fifteen good friends from law school who

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Speaker 1: practice in Atlanta, not a surprise. A lot of guys

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Speaker 1: who graduate and gals from Vanderbilt end up in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I could call all of them and get a billion

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Speaker 1: percent better legal representation than this guy.

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Speaker 3: She hired her lover.

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Speaker 1: Well and gave him six hundred and fifty K, and

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Speaker 1: he's not qualified for the job.

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Speaker 3: Buck, this is a huge scandal. That Okay, yes, that

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Speaker 3: is bad. I think what's likely even worse.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of like Hunter Biden buying guns

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Speaker 2: illegally doing crack and hanging out with prostitute and then

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Speaker 2: also trying to sell out his country to China. Like

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Speaker 2: you know, that's the one that really affects all of us.

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Speaker 2: Trump lawyers are now seeking details of Atlanta prosecutors communications.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline New York Times, with Biden aids.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all organized.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying she's exposed. I think she may have engaged

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Speaker 1: in criminal behavior. Anybody pulls this thread, the whole thing collapses.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, to me, the even worst thing, and

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to find out that it is true,

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Speaker 2: is that the prosecutor going after Trump in Georgia was

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Speaker 2: coordinating the Biden White House for when she should bring

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Speaker 2: the charges and how she should message this and who else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clay, it's dirty enough if you think they're

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Speaker 2: just doing this on behalf of Biden, right, But if

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Speaker 2: they're talking to White House people about the timing and

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Speaker 2: means and method of bringing a criminal indictment against Biden's

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Speaker 2: primary political opponent, all this is the definition of third

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Speaker 2: world dictator nonsense.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I want to echo what I said on yesterday's

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Speaker 1: program because I think it's very important Brian Kemp, the

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Speaker 1: Governor of Georgia, absolutely positively has to open his own

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Speaker 1: investigation into the Fanny Willis investigation because there are substantial,

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Speaker 1: very serious allegations that she hired her lover and paid

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Speaker 1: him six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in taxpayer funds

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Speaker 1: to try to go after Joe Biden, sorry, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and Buck Nathan Wade.

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Speaker 3: Is this guy's name.

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Speaker 1: If you need a if you get into a fender

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Speaker 1: bender in Atlanta, you can go get an attorney from

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Speaker 1: him too.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 1: That guy has billable records because remember everybody out there,

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Speaker 1: you have to keep track if you're a lawyer, six

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Speaker 1: minute increments.

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Speaker 3: He has billable record saying he met with White House officials. Buck.

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Speaker 1: So there are massive, glaring uh issues here about a

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Speaker 1: coordinated campaign to go after Donald Trump. If you just

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Speaker 1: are looking for salacious headlines, usually hiring your mistress.

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Speaker 3: Can you be a mister? What? What is it? Is

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Speaker 3: it a mister?

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Speaker 1: If you're a woman and you hire your your affair

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Speaker 1: a mistress would be if it were a man, did

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Speaker 1: it would be a mistress?

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Speaker 3: Do you hire a mister?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: Is he still a mistressing? Thankfully I don't either crew

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Speaker 1: look this up. I'm actually curious, if you are a

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Speaker 1: woman and you hire your lover, is he your mistress?

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Speaker 3: Is he your mister? What is the f jigglelo. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's prostitute. That's a prostitute. Ali a.

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Speaker 1: Moral which is a very funny word, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because it just always puts me in the mind of Jello.

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Speaker 1: But we're very familiar with it. Like just flip the

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Speaker 1: sexes here. If a guy hired his mistress and paid

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Speaker 1: her six hundred and fifty K to be on his

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Speaker 1: investigation team, why do you.

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Speaker 2: Think that's It sounds to me like you almost think

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Speaker 2: that's worse than I think that's criminal. That may be criminal,

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Speaker 2: sure on her behalf, but I think if we can

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Speaker 2: get more evidence of the Biden White House officials sitting

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Speaker 2: down with the prosecutor to coordinate the hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is usually when do you catch

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Speaker 1: people when they've engaged criminal investigation. So I'm saying Brian

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Speaker 1: Kemp needs to open it in the Governor of Georgia

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Speaker 1: and investigation into her investigation and if they have, which

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Speaker 1: they should, people who could bring charges against her sitting

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Speaker 1: down across the table and saying, hey, we got serious

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Speaker 1: evidence here that you misused xpayer funds, you hired somebody

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Speaker 1: who wasn't qualified to do a job that you were

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Speaker 1: sleeping with. Then if you want to avoid criminal prosecution,

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Speaker 1: here you slide across the table. Now, why don't you

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Speaker 1: tell me about these meetings that you had with Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris or that you had with the Biden White House.

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Speaker 1: And that's how this whole thing blows up if Brian

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Speaker 1: Kemp appoints somebody who's capable to do a real investigation, just.

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Speaker 2: Like I said about Russia collusion. Though, Man, the more

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Speaker 2: we find out about each of these prosecutions against Trump,

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Speaker 2: the dirty or the whole thing is. And it started

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Speaker 2: out being dirty. We got an update on Well, I

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Speaker 2: just want to get the language right.

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Speaker 1: According to producer Ali, the male equivalent of a mistress

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Speaker 1: is often referred to as a lover, paramore, or jigglo.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna throw the flag on this one. I

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Speaker 3: think that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: However, these terms do not carry the same historical and

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Speaker 1: societal connotations as the term mistress.

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Speaker 3: I think we just suggest it's a mister.

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Speaker 2: We just we just took a little a little sojourn

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Speaker 2: into the patriarchy.

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Speaker 3: There, I think is what happened.

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Speaker 2: I think it's right, great point. I'm literally shaking right

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Speaker 2: now and maybe I'm going to have tears.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on. So a word to the wise, my friends.

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Speaker 2: If you're starting the year off by making charitable contributions

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Speaker 2: and entities are sending you emails or text messages asking

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Speaker 2: a lot of these text messages are bogus cyber hackers.

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Speaker 2: Like I've been telling you, they are very clever and

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Speaker 2: they now know that if they send out text messages

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Speaker 2: people will click, oh yeah, I want to give money

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Speaker 2: it's not going to them. It's actually just stealing your information.

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Speaker 2: The moment you click on the link or you give

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Speaker 1: Skeeek Out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having a fantastic Friday.

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Speaker 1: We are actually trying to lead the media down the primrose.

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Speaker 3: Path of what could be a huge story.

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Speaker 1: Let me just kind of lay out again and and

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Speaker 1: or also government officials and I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: you in the state of Georgio listen. So this could

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Speaker 1: be the thread that unravels the entire criminal conspiracy against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Fanny Willis alleged to have hired her mistress,

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Speaker 1: her mister, her sancho. Some of you are saying, which

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that term before, but if you are

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Speaker 1: right now the governor of Georgia, if you are the

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor of Georgia, if you are the head of

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Speaker 1: the state Senate or the state House in Georgia, and

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Speaker 1: again I know a lot of you out there, listen,

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Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty thousand dollars of taxpayer dollars in

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Speaker 1: Georgia have been alleged to go to the lover who

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Speaker 1: otherwise is doing traffic accident law of the Georgia District

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Speaker 1: attorney leading this Trump prosecution. That is potentially a criminal

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Speaker 1: expenditure of funds because she has profited off of the

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Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty k.

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Speaker 3: And I asked Ali to look it up. But just

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Speaker 3: remember you only get paid.

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Speaker 1: Fanny Willis probably makes and I'm just guessing one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty k a year because she's a state and

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Speaker 1: or you know, federal I mean state or Georgia employee

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Speaker 1: DA Atlanta Area government employee.

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Speaker 3: You don't make as a DA. You don't make that much.

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Speaker 1: Money when you are an employee of the of the

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Speaker 1: state or the city of Atlanta. However, her tax dollars

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Speaker 1: are attributed. So she goes and hires her lover, and

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Speaker 1: she gives him six hundred and fifty K, and then

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Speaker 1: she's alleged to have been taking extravagant vacations with him.

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Speaker 1: She's using taxpayer funds to fund her lifestyle. And if

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Speaker 1: you investigate that, which could be criminal, because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: had to disclose if you're banging your subordinate. And I

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Speaker 1: actually think Buck, this would be a bigger story if

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Speaker 1: it were a guy who would hire his mistress, because

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Speaker 1: that's actually more common, and people immediately say whoa and

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Speaker 1: broke up the marriage of the mistress, Like I actually

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Speaker 1: think her hiring her boyfriend is not as common, and

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Speaker 1: so the language doesn't even apply here.

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Speaker 3: We have to think about what But when we.

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Speaker 2: Talk about whether something is a big story or not,

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Speaker 2: of course this is always through the prism of what

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Speaker 2: is the democrat corporate media. Do you see that thing

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Speaker 2: that said that ninety seven percent of journalists are Democrats.

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Speaker 2: By the way, recently that that survey that came out

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Speaker 2: ninety seven out of one hundred, and it's amazing. I

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Speaker 2: was actually talking to one of my brothers about this

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Speaker 2: last night. You talk to a lot of very smart

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Speaker 2: people who are maybe center left, and they'll say, and

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Speaker 2: you ask them, what do you think the media breakdown

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Speaker 2: is this country? And they'll say, you know, it's roughly

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty you know, you know, Fox News and

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Speaker 2: talk radio. And I'm like, these people have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Actually they live in this world where they don't understand

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Speaker 2: that the news apparatus is still at least ninety five

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Speaker 2: percent crowd aligned and everything. I just bring this up, Clay,

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Speaker 2: because this should be a huge story to your point.

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Speaker 2: But Fanny Willis has the you know, she has the

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Speaker 2: the cloak of invincibility.

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Speaker 8: She has the you know, the the protection of of

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Speaker 8: the media because she's on an anti Trump quest and

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Speaker 8: therefore nothing else matters, right, They're gonna do everything they

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Speaker 8: can to run cover for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you worked at the Atlanta Journal Constitution, this

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Speaker 1: is the story of a lifetime for you to be

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Speaker 1: able to unravel.

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Speaker 3: And that's reality. It's a way to get fired, as

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Speaker 3: you know. Correct, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The problem, right, which is why I think if you're

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Speaker 1: in the UH in the Georgia government, you have to

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Speaker 1: open an investigation into this. There are enough allegations of impropriety,

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Speaker 1: potentially of a criminal nature.

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Speaker 3: I know that, Bryan up. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that with Camp it's gotten too personal?

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Speaker 2: So he just doesn't you know what I mean, He's

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Speaker 2: gonna let it, just let it ride.

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Speaker 1: The That's why I also said, look, I would like

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Speaker 1: to think that even though he doesn't like Donald Trump personally,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll talk about this some in the second

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Speaker 1: hour as well, and maybe the third hour, take some

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Speaker 1: of your calls as well as Friday, I would hope

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Speaker 1: that he would be willing to recognize that six hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars being expensed to a lover by

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Speaker 1: a prominent district attorney in Atlanta is a big potential

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Speaker 1: criminal misattribution of state resources. And if it's not him,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the state House, the state Senate in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: the Lieutenant governor, remember Ryan Kemp's term limited out, this

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Speaker 1: is something that there should be an investigation opened into,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, Fanny Willis should have to step down just

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Speaker 1: based on the severity of these allegations.

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Speaker 3: This is it we know she will not