1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm strong and Katty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 3: The situation in Minnesota seems to be coolly. The Trump 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: administration is making changes to their immigration enforcement. Bovino and 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: some of his Border Patrol agents out home and coming in. 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: And this all comes after that phone call that Mills 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: also mentioned, with President Trump speaking directly to Minneapolis Mayor 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Jacob Fry. The President described the call is very good, 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: also writing on his true social lots of progress is 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: being made. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 4: Trump talked in very positive terms about his phone call 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: with Governor Walls and Mayor Fry, and so did the 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: mayor and the governor. So that brings up to speed 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: a little on that. And then also over now is 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: there were lots and lots of protesters outside the hotel 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: where they believed Border Patrol and ICE agents were making 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: lots of noise, and there were a whole bunch of arrests. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 5: Now an unlawful assembly was declared outside of a hotel 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: overnight where anti ICE protesters believe that Greg Bovino was 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: staying Maple Grove police and riot gear used wood and 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 5: batons to keep people back, and they estimated about twenty 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 5: six people were arrested. There are roughly three thousand federal 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: immigration officers a part of Operation Metro Surge in Minnesota, 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 5: and some of those Border patrol agents are leaving while 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: others have been placed on standby. 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: So it's not that the local officials aren't doing anything. 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: I mean they declared that an unlawful assembly. They've done 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: that many nights over the last several weeks and arrested 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of people who are not peacefully protesting 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: as there is their constitutional right. They're doing something unconstitutional 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: or illegal anyway. 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 6: It would seem that both sides are definitely seeing the 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 6: appeal of ratcheting down tension, right what I would say 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 6: if I were president in a moment, But I was 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 6: just thinking about got so many videos now that shooting 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 6: from Saturday from so many different angles. 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: Seems pretty clear what happened. I think. Am I wrong. 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: That once they decided this guy needed to I don't know, 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: was interfering with law enforcement, They try to push him 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: to the ground. Somebody sees a gun on him, takes 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: the gun away, from him, it goes off. That's some 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: point several of them started shooting the dude. Is is that. 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 6: Pretty well known at this point that the first shot 46 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: came from his gun. 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: I think that's accepted as whether. 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it makes any difference whether it did 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: or not. Well, yeah, I think it does. Yeah it does. 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 6: I mean, somebody yell, that would be a a gun 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 6: shot that was not from a federal as true. 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: It wouldn't be good either way because it wasn't toward them, 53 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: or the guy that got shot wasn't the guy who 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: fired it. 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 6: And again, kids, don't put pressured, harried law enforcement officers 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 6: in that sort of crazed position. 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: That's what I was going to talk about. I haven't 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: heard any sympathy for these officers who shot this guy. 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: Can you imagine when the smoke cleared and things settled 60 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: down and you realized, holy crap, he wasn't he didn't 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: have a gun, he was shooting at me. My life 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: wasn't in danger. I just shot this guy six times. 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: Can you imagine what that feels like? 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: Oh? 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: Just nothing, All those all those dudes who were out 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: there doing this job that they weren't. This is not 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: what they're training is for when you're you're a border 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: patrol agent, you don't train for, like you said yesterday, 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: riot control. That's not what you didn't get into the 70 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: that you didn't take that job thinking you'd ever do 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: this sort of thing, or doing investigations and apprehensions in 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: the midst of a riot. Right, crazier still, and then 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: all this craziness happened, And you know, I don't think 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: it's nothing that the I think it was. Bovino on 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: Sunday morning talked about how the day before this happened, 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: some border patrol agents got tackled by protesters. They were 77 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: in a fight, fistfight on the ground, and one of 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: them got their finger bit off. If you know you're 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: in that environment on the next day, I mean, you're 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: walking around really amped up. 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: Yes, I can hear well, I don't want to steal 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: any of your thunder because you, as president have a 83 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 6: statement you want to make right. 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: That's different than the conversation. 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 6: Oh okay, I was going to say. I can hear 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 6: some of my hard charging, righteous conservative brothers and sisters saying, 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 6: this feels a little bit like we're giving the radical leftists. Joe, 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 6: you're always talking about a win right driving the Feds back. 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: My answer to that. 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 6: Would be, we cannot fail to be strategic. We must 91 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: be strategic and smart and not give them precisely what 92 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 6: they want, which is more violence and chaos, because that's 93 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 6: their excuse to escalate and draw you know, increasingly normal 94 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 6: people into the fray because they can more accurately portray 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: it as the government is now killing people in the streets. 96 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: We've got to be smart. 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 6: They crave, they want desperately there to be violence and chaos. 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: That's what they need. 99 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: The President is headed to Iowa today to give a 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: speech on affordability. 101 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that is not. 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: Going to be heard by anyone in the midst of 103 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 4: all this stuff. I wish we don't live in a 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: time where this could happen. But I wish he could 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: go to Minnesota, or maybe you bring him to the 106 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: White House and have a prime time time Oval office address. 107 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: And I'm not sure which the two people are, uh, 108 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: but one from each side of this. Maybe you have 109 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: Governor Walls and uh Bovino or Holman or whoever you 110 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: think it is, one on each side. 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: And you say to. 112 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: Bovino, you say, I want you to look at the 113 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: camera and say we have gone too far. We have 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: harassed US citizens and taken people down in ways that 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: we shouldn't have done, and we apologize and we're gonna 116 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 4: try to do better. 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I want you to look at the camera and say that. 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: And then I want you to make Walls look at 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: the camera and say there are thousands of criminal illegals 120 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: in this city that need to be arrested and either 121 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: put in jail or shipped out of the country. 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: Look at the camera and say that you both need 123 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: to do this, because that would be so helpful. 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, Walls is out there lying right now saying we 125 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 6: cooperate with ICE. If there's a prisoner being really from 126 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 6: the prisons who's in illegal we contact ICE. Yeah, but 127 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 6: that doesn't that the jails, the locals, the county jails, 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 6: the city jails, that's where. 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: All these people. 130 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: Don't you think that would disingenuous? So we need to 131 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: unite and heal wounds. Don't you think that would heal 132 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: a lot of wounds? Because if you did that, it 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: would cut through the media bubble everybody's in because if 134 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: you take in right wing media, you're pretty much only 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: hearing that. 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: Side, and you know on the other side of the 137 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: other side. 138 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: And so if you heard Governor Walls looking there are 139 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: a bunch of people that would be shocked by this information. 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: I know some of them that would be shocked if 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: they turned on their liberal newscast and Governor Walls was 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: looking at him, saying, there are thousands of criminal illegals 143 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: who have done really bad things in this city and 144 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: they deserve to go. We need to arrest them, get 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: them out. There are people to be shocked. There are 146 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I didn't think there were any. 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: Now you're casting is the problem because Walls is such 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 6: a morm. 149 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: That's just it. 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 6: I wanted to kick Walls. It's fine, you'll find somebody. 151 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 6: But I would also like Walls to say, look, here's 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 6: our concern. We're afraid because we've got a huge Hispanic 153 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 6: community and yeah, a lot of them are undocumented. We're 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 6: afraid they'll be afraid to like cooperate with us on 155 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 6: other stuff or call the cops when something bad happens. 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: The bad guys will have free reign because these people 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 6: will be afraid to contact the government. That's why we 158 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: call ourselves a sanctuary city. We're really worried about that. 159 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 6: What can we do to serve both sides of that? Now, 160 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 6: that would be leadership. Can you imagine somebody in authority 161 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 6: saying that, Okay, I think you're overblowing that fear, but 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 6: I will recognize that you're sincere about it. 163 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: Let's think out how we can solve that. How we can. 164 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 6: Get child rapists off the street. Y'all are defending child rapists? 165 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: How do we get them off the street? And also 166 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 6: the poor missus Gomez who you know, somebody he broke 167 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 6: into our house, but she's afraid to call the cops. 168 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: How do we deal with that? Let's think together. Well, 169 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: I see that'd be lovely. 170 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: Obviously, I see one side closer to right than the other. 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: I do think if you had Bovino, for instance, look 172 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: into the camera and say my officers have gotten out 173 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: over their skis a bunch of different times and done 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: things they shouldn't have done that, there'd probably be people 175 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: who are only taking in Fox News it would be 176 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: shocked by that information to find out. Okay, some of 177 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: that stuff the liberals are saying is true, but the 178 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: difference is the Ice Border patrol crowd would love it 179 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: if they didn't ever make any mistakes and only got 180 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: the illegals out. On the other side, however, the governor 181 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: doesn't actually want those illegals booted out, even the criminals. Yeah, 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: that's why it'd be hard for him to say or 183 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: to wrestle with, because he doesn't even want that to happen. 184 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: They don't even want the freaking criminals. 185 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 6: Booted out, correct, Yeah, he taken enormous flak from the left. 186 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 6: I'd also demand and like walls to say, a lot 187 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 6: of these so called protesters are professional agitators. They're leftist activists, 188 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 6: they're Marxists, they're democratic socialists. 189 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: They want to overthrow the government. 190 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 6: And I didn't want to say anything because there are 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 6: a lot of just good, decent Minnesotans out in the 192 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 6: strait who thinks the federal government is overreaching and blah 193 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 6: blah blah. I mean, and in sympathy to some extent 194 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: with the people in Minnesota, because as a lover of 195 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 6: liberty and a hater of government oppression, they've got what 196 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 6: their entire police force is eight hundred cops or something 197 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 6: like that, six hundred or eight hundred in Minneapolis, and 198 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 6: they have two or three thousand Ice agents on the 199 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: street now and border patrol. That's an enormous influx of 200 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 6: uniformed law enforcement that you didn't ask for, per se now. 201 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 6: And I'm not making the case that they ought to 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 6: get out because we've got to enforce immigration law and 203 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 6: they are following the law. But if Walls could say, look, 204 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 6: there's a lot of like marxistsdon's Antifa guys here and 205 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: and uh, let's all get together and crack down on them. 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: But he'll never say that, man, and uh. 207 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: For our Second Amendment crowd the idea of a guy 208 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: showing up with a legal gun he's carrying legally and 209 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: then having the government take that gun off his body 210 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: then shoot him in the street for having a. 211 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: Gun, Yeah, that's pretty rong, which is not accurate. 212 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 6: Honestly, the Frankis began when he decided to physically intercede 213 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: with the UH. Yeah, the ice officers pushing a woman 214 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 6: rather forcefully away from her, interfering with their uh. 215 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: Doing their jobs. Yeah. 216 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: And I know because I've seen a lot of the 217 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: texts from those of you who are really big believers 218 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: in your gun rights. 219 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: And I'm a big believer in gun rights, but I 220 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: don't need to. 221 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: Challenge every situation with a loaded gun on me, just 222 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: to you know, draw the lines. 223 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: Bright and clear. Maybe you feel like that. 224 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: But I ain't showing up to a hot situation like 225 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: that with a gun and hoping for the best. 226 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: Good Lord, God, you get. 227 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: In there and you got a loaded gun in your 228 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: pants and you're pushing and shoving with cops. 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a good idea. 230 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 6: It's definitely a long shot. Everything's fine, outcome RIGHTO. 231 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Any thoughts on any of that text line four one 232 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: five two NFTC. 233 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 6: Meanwhile, on the internet, you've got to Melinda, who is 234 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: a nurse at or was a nurse at Virginia Commonwealth 235 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 6: University and Duke University, suggesting how to deal with ice agents. 236 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 7: I thought of something good. It's something weird sabotage tactic, 237 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 7: or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers grab 238 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 7: some syringes with needles on the end, have them full 239 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 7: of sailing or sucks that on colin you. 240 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: Know whatever what ever, that will probably be a deterrent. 241 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 7: Okay for today's resistance tip. I vote, anybody got me 242 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 7: uh poison ivy poison oak in their yard? Get some 243 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 7: of that up with gloves obviously, get it in some water, 244 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 7: like a gallon of water and get some get the 245 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 7: poison ivy oak water, and I'm gonna put it into 246 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 7: a water gun. Aim for game for faces, hands or 247 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 7: the single ladies. Where these ice guys are going have 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 7: a chance to do something, you know, not without risk, 249 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 7: but could help the cause for sure. Get on tinder, 250 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 7: get on Hinge. Find these guys they're around, they're ance agent, 251 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 7: and bring some exlax and put it in their rights. 252 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Get them sick. 253 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 7: You know, nobody's gonna die, just enough to incapacity them 254 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 7: and get them off the street for the next day 255 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 7: highly easily deniable. You know you could get sick to 256 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 7: there again. 257 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 6: Okay, alright, so the first drugs you mentioned is a 258 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 6: temporary paralyzing agent. She thinks you ought to bring in 259 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 6: a syringe and jab ice officers or spray them in 260 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 6: the face with boison ivy. 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: But just who thinks this way? Whose mind goes there? 262 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: And then the whole resistance thing, there is a layer 263 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: of just the resistance to anything Trump that has existed 264 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: now for fifteen years. 265 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 6: Or you know, I heard the one activists say there's 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: no point in talking. It was actually a former MSNBC 267 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 6: host saying there's no point in talking to Republicans because 268 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: they're all racist, fascist, white supremacists. 269 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: So we got a whole bunch of texts over what 270 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: we just talked about. You didn't hear it. Gets the 271 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Why can't you two 272 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: fascist stooges say alex Pretty's name? 273 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: What cowards? 274 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: I've never quite understood the say her name thing. I 275 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: wasn't avoiding saying the guys, what what does it? What 276 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: way does it make it better for anybody if I 277 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: say his name versus the guy that got shot. I 278 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: don't I've never understood that old thing, but. 279 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: It humanizes a person. I don't see any need to 280 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: respond to that, though, all right, fascist Calori wasn't you 281 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: had me at fascist? Well? 282 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: The reason I brought it up is I don't have 283 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: like some secret plot. I'll just speak for myself of 284 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: something that I'm trying to sneak by you or whatever. 285 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: Oh I do, I've got a plot the Builderberg group 286 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: lots of texts. 287 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: I can't speak for Minnesota law, but I have a 288 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: concealed carry license in California, and you have a duty 289 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: to retreat, not carry a weapon, and go towards danger 290 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: to where you may have to use the gun. I 291 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: don't know anything about that in Minneapolis, but that's interesting 292 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: for California. The second a gun carrier is getting physical 293 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: with law enforcement, their gun privileges are evoked according to 294 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,359 Speaker 4: the law. Well that then you get to the ongoing 295 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: battle of who shoved who first. 296 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: And there are strong opinions on that. 297 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: If the policeman shoved you first, and then automatically your 298 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: right to carry a gun goes away because he shoved 299 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: you first, obviously that would be a problem. But if 300 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: dude shoved cops first, then you're in a different situation. 301 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: The long and short of all the texts would be. 302 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: Not trying to sneak anything by you or shade anything 303 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: in any different way, just the way I see things. 304 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's difficult figuring out who's a troll and who's 305 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 6: just so swept up in the all. Everybody's got a narrative, 306 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: it's one or the other. I would say this, there 307 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 6: are no honest brokers interesting for our audience, mostly super 308 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: anti ice. They shouldn't be there in the first place. Texts, 309 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: which is surprising for are the leftists targeting us with 310 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 6: some sort of text attack. 311 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you listening to the show. 312 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm surprised you can put up with it if you 313 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: feel like immigration law should not be enforced under any circumstance. 314 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: That's interesting to me. 315 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: If you missed the segment as his head get the 316 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: podcast Armstrong and Getty on. 317 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: Demand Armstrong and Getty So quick. 318 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 6: Quiz who is our greatest geopolitical foe? 319 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: That's right, Tim Walls is no. No. 320 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 6: It's funny how domestic headlines can distract us sometimes from 321 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 6: the big, big, big stories, which is, of course, our 322 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 6: rivalry with China, which hasn't paused even for a moment. 323 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: It's time to take a look inside the China cabinet. China. 324 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: Don't trust China. China is indeed a whole Thank you, sir. 325 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: I gotta picture the I picture. 326 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 6: The communist Chinese, the leadership Jujien Ping, sometimes thinking, uh, man, 327 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 6: those Americans are easily distracted. We're bent on taking over 328 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 6: the world. You know, I'm here in my lair plotting 329 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 6: their overthrow and they're in a Twitter flame. War with 330 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 6: Tim Walls is a odd superpower. So that was a 331 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 6: very heavy last segment. 332 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Yes I did. Well, you are already inside the China cabinet, 333 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: just so you know. 334 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: But I wanted to tease something that I want to 335 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: tell you about that TV show on Netflix. If you 336 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: haven't seen it, about the guy climbing the skyscraper, going 337 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: to get to that next segment, it's worth watching. 338 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, super so headline number one US trading 339 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 6: partner is feeling burned by an unpredictable and transactional White 340 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 6: House or reassessing China in a drive to listen their 341 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 6: long standing reliance on America. And of course, quote a 342 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 6: cute little Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney who's trying to well, 343 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 6: speaking of a live action role playing, he's LARPing. I'm 344 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 6: the leader of a world power, and I love Canada, 345 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: and I love the Canadian people, and I value their friendship. 346 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 347 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 6: But the idea of Mark Carney, who has no weight, 348 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 6: throwing his weight around is kind of silly. But he 349 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 6: announced a sharp cut in Canada's levees on Chinese made 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 6: electric vehicles and touted a new strategic partnership with China, 351 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 6: much like the partnership between a two hundred pound woman 352 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 6: and her purse dog. 353 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: Mark. See that's the problem. 354 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: You aren't anything close to an equal with China. And 355 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 6: speaking of the EV's, I saw this headline Chinese EV's 356 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: blow past Tesla and tariffs en route to global rain. US, 357 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 6: European and Mexico are trying somehow to quash accelerating to 358 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 6: demand for China's howest electric vehicles, but the quality is 359 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 6: so high for the price well that they're making huge 360 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: inroads if. 361 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: You think that's important. Though, do you think having the 362 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 4: best electric car is important? I'm not sure it is. 363 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: People people aren't buying them right now. 364 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: In Europe they are, well, but I don't know if 365 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: that's a fair comparison. 366 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: Europe they make it so incredibly expensive to to drive 367 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: a gas powered car on purpose. I mean, they've got 368 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: all kinds of policies in place to drive you into 369 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: electric cars. Unless we're gonna do that in the United States. 370 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: I just I don't know if we're ever gonna. 371 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're missing the point. 372 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 6: Our allies are all signing these big trade deals with 373 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 6: China and easing tariffs and stuff. In China's EV production 374 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 6: and sales are going wild and crushing everybody else, partly 375 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: because you know, industry is so heavily subsidized, subsidized in 376 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: China at least long enough to get it up and going. 377 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: But Europe especially is going for Chinese cars like crazy, 378 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 6: and the quality for the price really is quite amazing. 379 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 6: But again a lot of it's the government fix is 380 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 6: in uh. And then we mentioned earlier and I was 381 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 6: digging more into the Democratic Socialists of America seeking and 382 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: gaining ties with the Chinese Communist government. Here's a meeting 383 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 6: October eighth of last year the China Working Group of 384 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 6: the DSA's International Committee. Quote, China wants to interface with 385 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 6: the DSA if we develop a killer two week, I 386 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 6: hire locals and develop further connections with a CCP than 387 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 6: we're golden? Has there ever been I mean, you used 388 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: to do this secretly during the Cold War, right because 389 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: you didn't, dare be seen openly saying hey, we got 390 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 6: to get in league with the Chinese Communist Party and 391 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 6: do their work in America. 392 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: Well stunning. 393 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: This whole narrative of Trump has pushed our European allies 394 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: into the arms of China just seems so weird to me. 395 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: The new York Times actually wrote the other day Europe 396 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: and China are in some ways natural allies in an 397 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 4: era when the United States has opted for nationalist brio. 398 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: Both remain officially committed to the concept of a rules 399 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: based international trade. China is committed to rules based international trade, 400 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 4: and that's why Europe's gonna get in bed with them. 401 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: According to the New York Times, that is a bizarre statement. 402 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: I know, both affirm the scientific reality of climate change 403 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: while mobile ie investment and know how to combat it. 404 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: Excuse me, pardon me. Wait a minute. 405 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: What's your example of China caring about because they say 406 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: the words? 407 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: How about you look at what they're doing, which is nothing. 408 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 6: Their coal production and CO two emissions have skyrocketed in 409 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 6: the last five years. 410 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: They've skyrocketed. How crazy is that? Wow, that's in the 411 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: New Yorker. 412 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, China and Europe natural allies as opposed to the 413 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: United States. 414 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what don't trust China? 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: Well, so little Mark Carney in China or I'm sorry 416 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: in Canada are essentially saying to their husband, you know, 417 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: I asked you to do the dishes and you didn't, 418 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 6: So I'm going to go out with a murderer. 419 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: Rate fist right right, exactly. 420 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 6: Seriously, Trump's be in a bit of a dick with 421 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 6: the tariffs. I have a feeling the Court's about to 422 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 6: set him straight. And so you're gonna go with China 423 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 6: anyway all of this, and I do want to talk 424 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 6: more about the the Democratic Socialists of America, who are 425 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 6: an incredible Marxist force for evil in the United States. Evil, evil, evil. 426 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: They hate this country. But we haven't gotten this gotten 427 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: to this. This week, China's top general and a few 428 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 6: others have been booted out. Chijin Ping has made these 429 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 6: wild claims about how they gave nuclear secrets to America, 430 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: and they're guilty of I think corruption, and that's the 431 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 6: usual bribery and corruption and giving the Great Satan America. 432 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 6: They're nuclear secrets. So a big shakeup at the very 433 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 6: top of the Chinese military. 434 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, is that just classic Stalin? 435 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: And every once in a while you get rid of 436 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: the people at the top of the military in case 437 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: their planet plotting against you. 438 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be. 439 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 6: I mean it's straight, it's dictator one oh one stuff 440 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: that every so often you purge your military because that's 441 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 6: the only real threat to your hegemony. But it shocks 442 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 6: me that a system as well developed in solid as 443 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 6: the Chinese Communist Party would feel the need to do that, 444 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 6: especially at a time. And if you're familiar at all 445 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 6: with the history of the Soviet Union, Stalin purged all 446 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 6: of his generals right before Adolph decided to march on Russia, 447 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 6: and they had a terrible, terrible problem because their leadership 448 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 6: corps had been gutted. So I'm a little surprised and 449 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 6: intrigued that Shehin Ping would do this right now, people 450 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 6: familiar with the internal briefing of the Communist Party, boy, 451 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: it's cool, we have sources in there, said Jang. That's 452 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 6: the top general guys under investigation for allegedly forming political cliques, 453 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: a phrase describing efforts to build networks of influence that 454 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 6: undermine party unity. To Jack's point, and if using his authority, 455 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 6: blah blah blah. Authorities are also scrutinizing its oversight of 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: a powerful agency responsible for the research, development and procurement 457 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: of military hardware. Those familiar with the briefing said Jang 458 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 6: was alleged to have accepted huge sums of money in 459 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 6: exchange for official promotions in the big budget procurement system 460 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: in a communist government. 461 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: What ah, that is. 462 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: Interesting anyway, It's a brief but powerful look inside the 463 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 6: China cabinet. 464 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: So China's going to take Taiwan at some point. And 465 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: got to see a lot of Taiwan last night on 466 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: that Netflix special about that dude who climbed that super 467 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: tall tall building there in the Capitain, Taipei. Now I 468 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: didn't know it was live on Netflix over the weekend. 469 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 4: I missed that part of the story somehow. I just 470 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: saw some of the highlights of him getting to the 471 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: top and everything like that. Did you know it was 472 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: a Netflix special over I did not, But anyway. 473 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: It was on live. 474 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: It was a two hour show and they started to 475 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: the very beginning interviewing the dude before he climbed it 476 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: and talking to his wife and about the building and 477 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: this and that, and they had, you know, an anchor 478 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 4: and a color person to do the whole thing, and 479 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: it was it was live the whole time. 480 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, you knew this. 481 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: I guess that's why you were announcing me the fact 482 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: that they had a delay in case he fell right now. 483 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: But I didn't realize it was air to air live 484 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 4: on on on Netflix. 485 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 6: AnyWho, I hope they interviewed his insurance agent, so his 486 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 6: policy is totally paid up. Huh, all right, that's a 487 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: good thing. 488 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: They got into a lot of stuff that was actually 489 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: pretty interesting. He's got little kids. But the nonchalant way 490 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: he started that climb is amazing. Is he just he 491 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: was in there in the van, parked there at the 492 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: base of the building and talking to his wife and 493 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 4: the well, let's get started, and he's just he walks 494 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: over and he changes his shoes and he puts on 495 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: this little harness with a bag of whatever that powder 496 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: is he puts on his hand so he doesn't slip, 497 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: and he starts. 498 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: Climbing the building. 499 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: He just walks over there and starts coming. I mean, 500 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 4: I looked at that building like you look at any building, 501 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: and I think I can't even imagine where you would 502 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: start to try to get a foot off the ground here. 503 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 4: I mean, because it just you know how a building is. 504 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 4: It's just straight walls and corners and slippery stuff. And 505 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: here's the fact that it's doable is astounding. As you're 506 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: talking about the fact that you would do that without 507 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: any sort of ropes or safety gear and just you know, 508 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: slap on your climbing shoes and say, all right, honey, 509 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: I'll see in a couple hours. That's just it's amazing, right, 510 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: And they pointed out on the show, as I pointed 511 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 4: out to my son we were watching, you know, everybody 512 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: makes such a big deal about how tall this tower is, 513 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: but as soon as he gets to about thirty feet, 514 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 4: he's at maximum velocity. So at that point it's as 515 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 4: dangerous as it is going to get and he die 516 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: most likely if he fell. Let alone. The other story 517 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: after story after story, but watching that show on my 518 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: eighty inch four K television, and his buddy is as brave, 519 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: slash crazy adventurous as he is, because his buddy is 520 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: the guy who films. 521 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: It and is being suspended from a crane right next 522 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: to him with a camera in his hand, which sounds 523 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: to me about as nutty as climbing the building. 524 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm getting light headed again. 525 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: And so you have shots the whole way up, like 526 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: right next to the guy and with full perspective of 527 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: how high you are, how far and everything like that. 528 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: And how little there is for him to grab onto. 529 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: And he's standing there and he's got his toes on 530 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 4: a ledge and his fingers just inside a crack and 531 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: you can see how far up he. 532 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Is, and he's looking around. What's the next thing I 533 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: grab for? 534 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: And he grabs some tiny little thing and he swings 535 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 4: his foot up and it kind of slips a little 536 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: and he go ah. 537 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: The whole time we were. 538 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: Watching the show and I'm like, no, yeah, even though 539 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: we know he makes it, it's just it was hard 540 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 4: to watch. 541 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: So we met it about halfway through. 542 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: I want to watch the rest of it with my 543 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: other son who wasn't available, because I think he really 544 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 4: liked to see because when you get to the top, 545 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: that's when it gets interesting. If he saw those videovers 546 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: a again, the strength you would have to have to 547 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: do that, let alone the the you know, combination of 548 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: courage and nerves and everything like that, an idea of 549 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: the strength. And they kept talking about how tired you 550 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: get by the time you get to the top. You 551 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: quite imagine you've done like eight thousand pull ups by 552 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: the time you get up to the top, and you 553 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: got to do it again. 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But our color commentator was some 589 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: UFC fighter who seemed like a complete moron and they 590 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: shouldn't have had on the show and was mockably ridiculous. 591 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: But at one point she's talking about how and if 592 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: you if you saw any of the highlights over the 593 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 4: weekend where the building flays out to where you're like 594 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: leaning backwards to try to get over it, and she 595 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 4: described to the overhang and all that sort of stuff, 596 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: and he said, and yeah, like, I mean, the building's 597 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: now leaning away from the rest of the building and 598 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to reach it. 599 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: She said, yeah, that's what an overhang is. 600 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: One point so hard you gotta get she'd had it. 601 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: You gotta get the ponytail UFC guy out of there, 602 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: or toss him off the building or something. There was 603 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: a giant crowd, thousands and thousands and thousands of people 604 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: at the base of that thing, cheering and ooing and 605 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: aweing the whole time. Yeah, he would grab onto something 606 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: and his legs would swing out, and that's a giant 607 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: crowd would go. 608 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: Thinking about the same plummet to his death. 609 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 6: Well, and as I heard him comment, it was really 610 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 6: windy too. Yeah, that's another factor. 611 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: He appeared to be soaked in sweat, which I imagine 612 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: you would be anyway. 613 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. It's pretty entertaining. I think there's 614 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: something wrong with his brain. 615 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 6: I'll bet the part of your brain that tells you 616 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: this is too dangerous I shouldn't do it just doesn't 617 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 6: work for him. 618 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: He seemed oddly calm. Yeah, like his brain does not 619 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: work like the rest of us. We got more on 620 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: the waist to here. So we were talking about that 621 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: guy I climbed that really tall building over the weekend. 622 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: You probably saw that on the news and Netflix special 623 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: about it. I didn't see the other special free solo 624 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: about him, And apparently somebody texted, Yeah, they talk in 625 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: there about the part of his brain the fear center 626 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: of his brain basically is switched off. 627 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: So, like you said, his brain does not work like 628 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: normal people. 629 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just you know, you described him as brave, 630 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 6: and I just I don't know. I think some people 631 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: just part of the brain doesn't work normally and it 632 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: enables them to do things that are incredibly dangerous. And 633 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 6: one of the dangerous parts of doing something dangerous is 634 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 6: you get so freaked out you can't function right. 635 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: Right. He doesn't have that problem clearly. Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing. 636 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 6: It's interesting anyway, So when I did the China Cabinet, 637 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: I've got to play one of my favorite parts of 638 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 6: it that was supposed to happen. 639 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: This is Gordon Chang. 640 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 8: Very briefly, between now and the end of the century, 641 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 8: China will lose probably two thirds to three quarters of 642 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 8: its population. So it reports one point four billion now, 643 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 8: it'll probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred 644 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 8: and fifty million. No country has ever undergone a demographic 645 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 8: collapse like this, not even Europe during the Black Death. 646 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 8: So really, what we're talking about is something nobody has 647 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 8: ever seen before. And I don't think China can remain 648 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 8: a great power when its population falls apart. 649 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 6: Chijin Ping is evil, Bud, He's no fool, And it 650 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 6: occurred to me that is one of the reasons they 651 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 6: are so intent on developing robots. 652 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: Because their entire economy, that's overstating it. 653 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: A huge part of their economy is based on labor manufacturing, 654 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 6: and they're not going to have any humans, so they're 655 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 6: obsessed with developing robot aided those dark factories they talk about, 656 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 6: they don't even have lights. 657 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: The robots don't need lights. 658 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: True, so at some point they'll be like the number 659 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 4: one or two economy in the world. 660 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: But it's a robot country. Yeah, that's weird. 661 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, all their plants, all their business facilities are gonna 662 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 6: be run by robots and AI I guess and then when. 663 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: All the people are gone, because that'll happen. 664 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 6: It's like three guys making a billion dollars a minute each. 665 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? 666 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 4: What is the competition with a country that's all robots. 667 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: That's interesting, and what the hell's. 668 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: The point if you're one of those three guys? Right? 669 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 6: Speaking of AI, I thought this was really interesting. This 670 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 6: is kind of a tech person but as nutty and 671 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 6: scary as AI can be. AI took control of my 672 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 6: life and I love it. It was anthropics clawed anthropic 673 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 6: who's CEO just said, none of us really knows how 674 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 6: to control these AI systems. But this gal like gave 675 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 6: it everything, her her schedule, her subscriptions, her bills, her everything, 676 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 6: and says, you got to straighten this out. 677 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: And she said she loves Oh that does sound pretty good. 678 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: I use Claude a lot that I like a good idea. Wow, 679 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: I wonder if I should do that sort of thing. 680 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm tempted. I want to dig more into it. 681 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 6: One of the first things she did is say, all right, 682 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 6: figure out what subscriptions I. 683 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Have that I'm not using. And it did right. 684 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 6: Judy and I have been saying roughly once every three 685 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 6: days for six weeks. 686 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: Now we got to sit down figure this out. Yes 687 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: we do. We do absolutely well. 688 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 4: Just like because I'm so bad with even if I 689 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: put stuff on my calendar, I don't check my calendar. 690 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: Maybe if I started telling Claude, hey, remind me you 691 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: know when this happens, and then they get up in 692 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: the morning, Cloud says, hey, hey, remember you got to 693 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: meeting ten thirty. You hate this person so get ready 694 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: or whatever. Maybe just a mild electric shock to remind me. 695 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: I mean, not enough to kill me, just enough to 696 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 4: bring me to my knees. 697 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: Wow, Why haven't I done that yet? I'm going to 698 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: do that today. All right, I'll tell you about it 699 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: next hour. Cool. That's good stuff. I also have the 700 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: Pulpe warning us about AI relationship chips. 701 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 6: I like real girls, mister Pope, but thank you for 702 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 6: thinking of me. 703 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: If you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 704 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 4: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty