Speaker 1: My bad brother. Man. You know it's like, you know
Speaker 1: how the government trying to stop us, you know how
Speaker 1: they just getting poping baby. I think they cut it off.
Speaker 1: We having this. It's it's real, man conversation man, because
Speaker 1: you who you said X exactly, Man, so you already
Speaker 1: know what it is. They ain't a mystery, baby, it's real. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We are in a very man like, um, really weird
Speaker 1: time right now. Man. I think right now with this
Speaker 1: upcoming election that we have, man, it's almost like everything
Speaker 1: is kind of hanging in the balance. Man. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you were a brother that's really in politics
Speaker 1: anything like this, But I'm gonna ask you, man, what
Speaker 1: type of change do you think we need to make
Speaker 1: in this country? Man? Well, that's a hard question right
Speaker 1: because it's it's right now. See, America is a situation
Speaker 1: with the good was like right here and the band
Speaker 1: was down there. It was the good was outweighing the bad.
Speaker 1: Right now it seems like the badest starting to outweighed good.
Speaker 1: And we're coming to a point right now where's things
Speaker 1: on a global scale or United States scale, is kind
Speaker 1: of weird right now. It's just weird because the United States,
Speaker 1: it is just the problem with it, not us. Is
Speaker 1: most problems. It's probably either employment, food, clothing, shelter, and
Speaker 1: it's racism ship. M those like the biggest things right
Speaker 1: now that are really weird and just crazy right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about racism. Man. I'm on
Speaker 1: some man ship, you know. I mean, because if you're
Speaker 1: a man, we got our own problems just being the
Speaker 1: fucking man more or less, not even being a black man,
Speaker 1: just men, period. We got our own fucking problems, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for as being that unappreciated and
Speaker 1: the ald type of the things that come with being
Speaker 1: a man. It's very hard being a man. And you know,
Speaker 1: the U as far as I can say, as far
Speaker 1: as like the problems, it's it's a lot that I
Speaker 1: can't really getting one sentence, but I definitely would start
Speaker 1: on racism that hasn't stopped. That's a real big issue,
Speaker 1: you know, far as like our next person might perceive
Speaker 1: the next person to be and off the color the skin.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a firm believer in character before
Speaker 1: you you know, you judge a person by skin, You
Speaker 1: didn't call it. Yeah, exactly exactly, man. I think right now, man,
Speaker 1: we are under time too to where I noticed, man,
Speaker 1: with certain movements. Man, Like we have the Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter movement going on right now, man, and it seems
Speaker 1: like there are a lot of different groups of texting
Speaker 1: them texting themselves to this Black Lives Matter movement because
Speaker 1: it's a popular movement at the time. Yeah, you get
Speaker 1: what I'm going. Uh. I don't know really what these
Speaker 1: groups don't do for the hood though, Man. You know
Speaker 1: you see Black lives people like Black Lives Matter and
Speaker 1: other people, man dig generating. I think all of us
Speaker 1: a massive money brad right now? Man? Is that is
Speaker 1: that money involved in that? Is? People get money in
Speaker 1: Black lives man. So who's getting the chance? For sure?
Speaker 1: Millions of dollars in donations, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Millions And I was in donations And that's not me.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming on the dragon those brothers, man. But
Speaker 1: it's like, at the end of the day, it has
Speaker 1: had a purpose, man, because I've noticed a lot of
Speaker 1: times man, with these type of movements, Man, um oftentimes
Speaker 1: the people that are left out, man, or the people
Speaker 1: that are in the urban areas. Yeah, definitely, because you know,
Speaker 1: the hood is always gonna be the last to get
Speaker 1: whatever you got to get. The people with the least
Speaker 1: amount of knowledge of things always gonna be the ones
Speaker 1: getting beat up the most, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: street situations and having knowledge of of what I mean
Speaker 1: by knowledge is having a skill or having some type
Speaker 1: of thing they make a living besides doing crime. I mean,
Speaker 1: because that's basically what it is. But it boils down to,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the hood, you're doing crime and
Speaker 1: survive or you're trying to learn something to to to
Speaker 1: give you for to put food on your table and
Speaker 1: make you turn a living, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're getting we're getting the last end of
Speaker 1: that definitely, especially to people they don't want to come
Speaker 1: out and learn nothing to to to survive, you know,
Speaker 1: besides the crime exactly. Man, And we have um I
Speaker 1: think man like with systemic racism. All right, let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. What is the meaning of systemic racism?
Speaker 1: You know what that is? What that means? I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means? You know what, man, I guess
Speaker 1: it means. Man. What I get from it, man, is
Speaker 1: this generation, generational racist, and it's been going on just
Speaker 1: for years and years on top of each other. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe there's nothing proper definition, but that's what I gathered
Speaker 1: from it. Man. I think all of this stuff, man,
Speaker 1: I think lots of times. Man, Like you said, are
Speaker 1: people theories from lack of knowledge? Right, Yes, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Man. I think the welfareh shade
Speaker 1: and us we as a people sometimes we our own
Speaker 1: works enemies. Man. I think we need to start waiting
Speaker 1: for somebody. I think we need to start waiting for
Speaker 1: people to coming and rescue us all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what people thinking because because I know, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: coming to rescue with our people's and if bucks don't
Speaker 1: realize that ship now, this is a this is to
Speaker 1: see what's happening in our faces. Sometimes you can somebody
Speaker 1: can put something right in front of your face and
Speaker 1: you still can't see it, and it's like it's obvious
Speaker 1: right now that no one's coming to help. And like
Speaker 1: I was saying before, you know, when we first started talking,
Speaker 1: is that if you ain't got a knowledge on how
Speaker 1: to make a living, because that's basically what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the ghetto, in the hood.
Speaker 1: You you poor, and you have no ways of making
Speaker 1: a living besides well fair, relying on the government, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: So now it's time for you to get up and
Speaker 1: understand that. You gotta get up and find a way
Speaker 1: to make a living and go out there and try
Speaker 1: to grab it, try to try to go for it.
Speaker 1: If you ain't going out there trying to go for it,
Speaker 1: don't get mad at the next man who's going out
Speaker 1: there grabbing and trying to go for it, whether whether
Speaker 1: he's hustling, banging, whatever he's doing. He got to go
Speaker 1: out there and get it, and he's trying to better
Speaker 1: himself the only way he know how. I mean. So,
Speaker 1: but that's not the only way to do it though.
Speaker 1: Crime is not the only way to do it. It's
Speaker 1: other ways to do it. You know, you gotta go
Speaker 1: get that knowledge. You've gotta become electrician nerves, whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be, put full on your table to make
Speaker 1: you comfortable. That's what she was trying to do in
Speaker 1: the hood. And right, no one's gonna give it to you.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna give you a free ride of knowledge
Speaker 1: to go. You gotta go study, You gotta go get
Speaker 1: those books you gotta go pick up that ship. You
Speaker 1: gotta move your ass. That's only way you're gonna get it. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: you made develop point right there. Man, Me and you
Speaker 1: pretty much on the same age. Man, we grew up
Speaker 1: in the same era. Yes, Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember. Back in high school. Man, back in the day,
Speaker 1: they had two different programs they had when brothers learned automotives,
Speaker 1: brothers had woodshot flash, they had different trades. See, I'm
Speaker 1: a firm believer in both of my sons. Yeah, both
Speaker 1: of my sons went to college. Man, they want to
Speaker 1: you know, the university rather, but I don't think that
Speaker 1: direction maybe for everybody. I think they need to bring
Speaker 1: those programs back, man, where the brothers learn how to
Speaker 1: six stars, learn how to lay time, learn how to
Speaker 1: you know something, Yeah, something besides crime, because you know
Speaker 1: you're in the hood. You're gonna sell that coke, You're
Speaker 1: gonna pick up that dope, You're gonna pick up them guns.
Speaker 1: You're gonna bang, you're gonna stick, you're gonna rob, you're
Speaker 1: gonna jukes, you're gonna scheme, you're gonna do everything. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do everything in that environment. Because when you pour,
Speaker 1: you have no fear. You got no fear when you pour.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how it is when you're growing up
Speaker 1: in the hood, new niggas, little niggas, and you ain't
Speaker 1: got nat scared ship. When you have a certain age
Speaker 1: and you know how to use four team from the
Speaker 1: ages from twelve all the way up twenty two, you're monster.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, you know, yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: because you know you know what the police are right
Speaker 1: that young black mandle ages um fourteen eighteen, they did
Speaker 1: the most dangerous animal on the plenty because they have
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. This is this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I'm talking about. And we are
Speaker 1: magnifying that ship right now. And like I told before
Speaker 1: on my podcast, you know how they're talking, I'll talk
Speaker 1: to But now I'm not here for you to believe
Speaker 1: what I have been through and all that. I'm talking
Speaker 1: from experience, and I'm here to spark the brain for
Speaker 1: these little young dudes. That's my job. I ain't headed
Speaker 1: for your validation or b I know. I'm I'm a JA,
Speaker 1: I'm a triple old J. I'm going on quadripple, right now.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm here to spark a
Speaker 1: little younger. So they're gonna and like, yo, from this
Speaker 1: age group. From here, you're gonna be crazy and don't
Speaker 1: understand that you gotta move wisely. Besides using the anger,
Speaker 1: that frustration, that fitness has to be projected, this in
Speaker 1: another another way that you can you can utilize that
Speaker 1: energy on a positive note. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I might not be able to save three thousand, but
Speaker 1: if I saved two or three, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Man, tell me this. Man.
Speaker 1: When I saw you at the podcast, man trying to
Speaker 1: treat me out a little bit, I said, okay, here
Speaker 1: we go. Man, you got raw? Did that come about? Man? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I dropped the book and um
Speaker 1: and uh. And I've been doing the things with my
Speaker 1: clan for a moment and we've just been doing our thing,
Speaker 1: and I just said, I know, my my manager, my
Speaker 1: got got with some good people's my man, Kevin and
Speaker 1: Jeff and Michelle and only they came in. We had
Speaker 1: we had some conversations, and I just said, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's time for me to start dropping the dropping these
Speaker 1: rules man, And I mean, and I come from a
Speaker 1: father center background where we we we grew up knowing knowledge,
Speaker 1: wisdom and understanding, was and culture, freedom and power, farming
Speaker 1: and equality and building, destroy and guard and boring. We
Speaker 1: grew up. We grew up a different mentality. And it's
Speaker 1: needed right now, you know, I mean, because it came
Speaker 1: a time where that ship was pushed aside, you know,
Speaker 1: the powers that be pushed that to the side, because
Speaker 1: that was awakened and a lot of my people's and
Speaker 1: to the side, and they exploited more gang related situations
Speaker 1: and situations. But I'm here to replenish that and put
Speaker 1: that back in the air and put that backwards. Need
Speaker 1: to be there, because like I said, I can't get ten.
Speaker 1: I take one, I take one strow it. I take
Speaker 1: one strowdent, one nice student that that that want to
Speaker 1: learn and that that want to be soak abnounced with
Speaker 1: like a sponge and want to be guided in the
Speaker 1: right direction to become great, not to be come some
Speaker 1: savage and pursue the happiness what I'm saying. And like
Speaker 1: I said, when you pull or you don't even know
Speaker 1: your savage what I'm saying you because you you waited
Speaker 1: about eating and getting that food and putting that plate
Speaker 1: on your table and getting the things that you think
Speaker 1: is are important at the time. When you when you
Speaker 1: grow up, you can realize the things that you wanted
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifth, fourteen and eighteen, it's not really important
Speaker 1: as when you hit twenty five and thirty. Man, you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at yourself later on, like what the fund was?
Speaker 1: I thinking? Man? Even even if you pop off NIM
Speaker 1: you're sitting in the camp, by the time you come out,
Speaker 1: you're gonna realize, like, what the fund was? I thinking
Speaker 1: back there exactly, man. And that's the thing man, youth Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, um with with our youth today, Man,
Speaker 1: they're more worried about living in the moment and everything.
Speaker 1: So it was important man for brothers like us to
Speaker 1: come and spread knowledge, man, instead of doing an opposite.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Uh, you know you look
Speaker 1: at it. He started with the music. Man. If you
Speaker 1: remember in the eighties, man, everything was pro black man.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a really dope pro black positive
Speaker 1: movement going on. The man, everything was about like you know,
Speaker 1: you had groups like Publican and me. You have sisters
Speaker 1: like Queen lat for mc light man. Now we have
Speaker 1: fum And I'm not knocking these younger brothers man, these
Speaker 1: younger brothers and sisters were doing what they do man,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think it's our people parents for
Speaker 1: a lack of knowledge, man, And I think they just
Speaker 1: they just become a part of the problem almost because
Speaker 1: they don't know no better. So I think it is
Speaker 1: up to instead of brothers like us. Dragon. You will
Speaker 1: never hear me dragging one of these younger cattes, one
Speaker 1: of these younger sisters, because I don't think they I
Speaker 1: think it's up to us to really educate them. Mh. Well,
Speaker 1: basically the bros, you know, the brods exploiting their sexuality. Man,
Speaker 1: they look good, they got fat ASTs, they got paid
Speaker 1: for titties. Whatever they did, you know, you don't, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, Whatever whatever they did, they're doing it to
Speaker 1: exploit what they got and that's how they feeding their families.
Speaker 1: That's how they're doing they duck disl and I ain't
Speaker 1: mad at them what I'm saying, but I just hope
Speaker 1: that the music that they transplanted, that these little young
Speaker 1: girls don't think that that's the them, Like yo, don't
Speaker 1: think that you are spot school. Wha you ain't huh,
Speaker 1: You ain't got no maids. You gotta go get it.
Speaker 1: You gotta go cook in that kitchen. I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: tell you you you you ain't got nobody to clean
Speaker 1: up your house. So you're gonna have to clean your
Speaker 1: house up, girl, you know what I'm saying. And plus
Speaker 1: they you know a lot of these women, they get
Speaker 1: these big titties and these assets. What they attract men.
Speaker 1: But what you're trying to do that for? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want many jump on, jump on you, jump on your coach,
Speaker 1: you know, jump on your couch and your coach whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna call it. And I'm saying so yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a never ending cycle. We're gonna fight,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because people misinterpret certain things
Speaker 1: like that's actually real life. No, it ain't real life, man,
Speaker 1: that's not real life, man. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know. You know, if you notice, man, it
Speaker 1: was real pervasive to music. Man for a minute, man,
Speaker 1: where everybody was a drug dealer. I think when you've
Speaker 1: really been on the corners, man, you can't look at
Speaker 1: that stiff and left and say this is reality. But
Speaker 1: what happens, man, people see you know, rad co hip
Speaker 1: hop culture. Man influences the world almost you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Kids see something on the music video, Man,
Speaker 1: they think it's real, and they go out and try
Speaker 1: to attempt to do these things that they see and
Speaker 1: they find out the hard way that it's not real. Man.
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things, Man, I loved
Speaker 1: about your book. Man. It was just real gritty. It
Speaker 1: was real gritty and raw. Because even though you were
Speaker 1: describing you know, new York City, man, not New York,
Speaker 1: you know New York, state of New York, the same
Speaker 1: thing was going on in Compton, the same thing in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Let's say one thing about that right now, This this
Speaker 1: is some some crazy ship. This This is how new
Speaker 1: that no matter where we go, that we're the same.
Speaker 1: Right when I was young, I was eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: you know, I went from New York with the California.
Speaker 1: When I went to New York to California, dudes were
Speaker 1: in the same and do rags as niggas in New
Speaker 1: York was wearing it was wearing the same clothes. And
Speaker 1: I said to myself, you know, it just hit me
Speaker 1: like Yo, it's the same every goddamn where you go. Bro,
Speaker 1: it's the same fucking ship. It's like just because you
Speaker 1: know in Compton you don't have sky spaping projects. Y'all
Speaker 1: got the jungle, y'all got certain spots. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing, same fucking thing, man, It's like, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing the similarities that black men in those parts.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same Bro's it's the same struggle, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going the same struggle. Man. I happen to be
Speaker 1: good friends, man, like with um Freeway, Rick ross Man
Speaker 1: the real one or was the real one, the real
Speaker 1: Rick ross And uh, you know cats like Ghosts Man,
Speaker 1: who was rolling with Hereio and all those guys back
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, they kind of ran the
Speaker 1: same circles. Man. And if you look at this story, man,
Speaker 1: you know about the just whole thing with the contrast
Speaker 1: and everything like that. Man, you just get into the
Speaker 1: conspiously of everything. Man. Crack really knocked down our best
Speaker 1: and our brightness. Man. I had o gs in my
Speaker 1: hoods met it was like Superman. So you don't see
Speaker 1: these these he rolling hood figures that we got in
Speaker 1: the hood, just rolling in the street down the chats
Speaker 1: and the Cadillac man with the pinky ring on apograph
Speaker 1: for the money. They was kind of living to get
Speaker 1: to American dream. And you see these cats, um slow
Speaker 1: ascension man down to where they don't have a car
Speaker 1: no more. Then they don't have jewelry no more. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, they're pretty much don't turn into a vagrant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy, man. So crack really destroyed our communities. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't think we go and I think those effects
Speaker 1: are long lasting. Bro, there's a lot of brothers who
Speaker 1: got sent to prison and seil in prison. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: talked about that ship all the fucking time. I said
Speaker 1: to myself, this nigga, Ronald Reagan and these motherfucker's man
Speaker 1: the dudes, and they don't shovel so much ship in
Speaker 1: the hood, man. And it was like a trap because
Speaker 1: who's gonna turn down that brand at the time. So
Speaker 1: for sure, if you Paul, he was poor, he was broke,
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna turn down that man. Nichol was just
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars used and they sucked motherfucker's up
Speaker 1: into that ship and next thing you know, the whole yo, man,
Speaker 1: we're looking the whole thing, man, and he and nobody
Speaker 1: was held accountable for that ship. Nobody. I think it's gone.
Speaker 1: They dad, whatever the case may be, and the errors
Speaker 1: over and it's like, no one's how commal for that
Speaker 1: man outside of slavery. Bro, it's the second biggest crime
Speaker 1: against hu manity man because it's right there, Bro. They
Speaker 1: set it up man, because they used the drug proceeds
Speaker 1: from our neighborhoods Laian want to fund that war that
Speaker 1: they was fighting. It was funding the war, right, some ship.
Speaker 1: We ain't had nothing to do it. We didn't have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with. So you think about if they
Speaker 1: did that. Man. I've seen this personally. Man, I've seen
Speaker 1: brothers find boxes and glocks and Compton man Um railroads,
Speaker 1: you know the railroads, the train stuck on the track door. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, some kids walking through the hood, man, they
Speaker 1: see to train direct doors open the stuff they actually
Speaker 1: going to spot. They see some boxes right, some machine
Speaker 1: guns being farm man. So I think it's definitely man,
Speaker 1: and I know you can appreciate this, Man. I believe
Speaker 1: it's definitely man of conspiracy. Man against the black superman
Speaker 1: or dog. I'm gonna tell you something field ship, man,
Speaker 1: I used to think, because you know it's like now
Speaker 1: I can't be Yeah it is, brod yes, it is.
Speaker 1: It's set up like that. And that's why I was
Speaker 1: trying to tell you. That's why I'm here to tell him.
Speaker 1: Let them know, like all that ship you're going through
Speaker 1: in the hood, it's a set up. It's a set
Speaker 1: up for you to fail. Set up as you pick
Speaker 1: up that gun, you pick up those drugs to set up.
Speaker 1: Already got it lined up, already got your phones, they
Speaker 1: already got your TV. It got a thing lined up
Speaker 1: ready right now. And you don't think you're getting away
Speaker 1: and none of that ship, because soon as you get
Speaker 1: to a certain level, they're coming to get you. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, and let you rock on the
Speaker 1: low level, say you a little three and four olds, whatever, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: But soon you start getting the man's, then three and
Speaker 1: four or five man's, they're coming. Bro, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. If you ever go all these young cats
Speaker 1: need to go read somebody's to severy papers and see
Speaker 1: how deep the rappid hole goes when they kicked you. Man.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they document the whole time from when
Speaker 1: you started hustling. It's like they go back the whole
Speaker 1: history on Tuning eight team if you was doing this
Speaker 1: and that he was meeting with sex and sex and
Speaker 1: second section. So they building this thing, like you said,
Speaker 1: they'll let the small people get away moving out, see
Speaker 1: and then you're moving his own here and they're not
Speaker 1: tripping off of you. Let me build that thing because
Speaker 1: you think about it's almost like they're letting you say,
Speaker 1: they're letting you get your serve on. Man, you know what,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it back with you being in the
Speaker 1: camp exactly the shoot to keep a dude in there,
Speaker 1: you gotta stand something right because if crazy, you do
Speaker 1: the math right, you made you had good five six
Speaker 1: year running the streets, you know, maybe had five or
Speaker 1: six seven years running the streets. They're gonna sit you
Speaker 1: down for about good ten right, maybe maybe may sit
Speaker 1: you around for five depending on what the crime you
Speaker 1: commit whatever whatever, make but the average average time is ten.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get it down from you. It's a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty a year for just you you even being
Speaker 1: in that cell for sure, so times that hundred times
Speaker 1: ten years. Do the math, so for sure, and you
Speaker 1: know what what else too? You know, did you know
Speaker 1: that the Commons series gener rates billions of dollars the
Speaker 1: phone companies, the phone calls you can use that car
Speaker 1: to call. It's a billion dollar industry. Man. So not
Speaker 1: even not even talking about not even gonna get into
Speaker 1: the subject. But I'm gonna get into the subject. Not
Speaker 1: even talking about the money that's going on for the
Speaker 1: illegal camp, for the legal ship that's going on in
Speaker 1: the camp. That's another fucking crazy gold mine up in
Speaker 1: there with money. Brown and the cigarettes is like triple
Speaker 1: uh we triple triple whatever. Whatever whatever vice you got
Speaker 1: in there is triple. It's just the fact that you
Speaker 1: can get whatever you want in prison, because it didn't
Speaker 1: just a broad broad girl, dudes, broad bringing in there.
Speaker 1: This stuff is coming in, man, through the actual people
Speaker 1: that's there. Meant um supervise these people. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: how this is bad. They got to see there's always
Speaker 1: gonna be some niggas that's above the law, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna take advantage of the situation and do
Speaker 1: what they gotta do. You know. It's just how it is, bro.
Speaker 1: It is what it's gonna be, man. Yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: it's definitely, man, Um, I noticed you said he from
Speaker 1: the nation guys the nerves. Man, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you guys believe it because you know west a lot
Speaker 1: of brothers in the Islam, right, That's what I'm definitely
Speaker 1: that's the foundation. That's the foundation of of Elijah Muhammed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's Ferrad and Fabra, Can Malcolm,
Speaker 1: you know all that's the foundation. So it's basically the
Speaker 1: same structure I mean with the Fibers Nation. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Um the other guy that for God's damn name, I'm
Speaker 1: smoking to my damn weight. But anyway, we was taught.
Speaker 1: You know, they brought us the knowledge to the gangsters
Speaker 1: and pimps and he just took a little more. So
Speaker 1: you just trim the fat off the lessons and this
Speaker 1: gave us what we needed just to wake us up.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, and that was that, man, I mean.
Speaker 1: And basically what happened was was was the was the
Speaker 1: nation of of of you know, the fiberst Nation came
Speaker 1: out of it. I mean, and um, you know it
Speaker 1: was built. Man. It's a good thing for some brothers, man,
Speaker 1: some some brothers now the utilize knowledge and soaked up
Speaker 1: and and so that's that's another art form too. So
Speaker 1: there's different ways different art forms. Everybody has a talent.
Speaker 1: Some people can read some ship and actually put it
Speaker 1: into existence, and some people some people can't can read
Speaker 1: some ship, not really grasp it, I mean, and and
Speaker 1: but then they can look at something and take that
Speaker 1: and bring it into existence. I mean, everyone has a
Speaker 1: certain power that they have, certain superpower they have. But
Speaker 1: my situation is I'm an absorber. I get some knowledge,
Speaker 1: I can apply it to whatever I learned, and I
Speaker 1: was able to like I was able to do that
Speaker 1: as a kid, I mean, and you know that's that's
Speaker 1: what happened. On part of his name is Clarence X.
Speaker 1: Clarence X Brons bring the UM, the five per cent nation,
Speaker 1: the degrees to the streets. I mean, he was the
Speaker 1: one that brow the and the one twenty lessons as
Speaker 1: we call, and those are the things that UM we
Speaker 1: used as kids. You know, my crew back those days
Speaker 1: we was was five per centers and that was I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't but it was a gag wielding
Speaker 1: knowledge itself. Though it wasn't no gang, you know, into
Speaker 1: shootouts and on that we was more as knuckle checks
Speaker 1: and knobs. That's probably and that's a beautiful thing to
Speaker 1: brothers and getting to a little altercation of both and
Speaker 1: walk home lible to talk about it, you know, versus
Speaker 1: today man, where we had of like place cities like Chicago, Man,
Speaker 1: with the murder rate is just off the chain. You
Speaker 1: know that ship over there that is like, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a hamburger. That's hamburger. Hell, that's like a meat
Speaker 1: factory for these for it for the government. They love it. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And I think that we definitely, man, We definitely Man.
Speaker 1: I think it's just and there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: man that we could go into, man, like really man,
Speaker 1: because I think this has all been pre playing man
Speaker 1: and preordained. Man. And then I think the worst is
Speaker 1: yet to come for us, man. Unfortunately, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna get well. Bro. You know, let tell you some
Speaker 1: real ship. Man, It's always gonna be strong. Survived. Doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean the niggas with the guns that that's that's
Speaker 1: not strong, that's weak. Oh your boa comes from up here, bro,
Speaker 1: that's right. The wounds right, head right moves, being around
Speaker 1: the right people, getting the right now to your mind,
Speaker 1: eating the right foods, reading the rights, reading the right books,
Speaker 1: looking at the right things on TV. I mean, whatever
Speaker 1: you introduce into your mind, not a ten times you're
Speaker 1: gonna mimic out in the open. So you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta take that in consideration. And it's like, that's that's
Speaker 1: what's going on. That's what's going on, man, that's the real. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's really man, it's really man of pleasure man, And
Speaker 1: have you don't hear? Man? I wish we could have
Speaker 1: did this same a little bit. I'm gonna ever this
Speaker 1: part out right. Of course. I wish we could have
Speaker 1: did this a little bit later on. But I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna press run out. You know what you do,
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna do. But I want you
Speaker 1: to come, you know, you know, making you turn. Don't
Speaker 1: be afraid of making you turn, because we can do
Speaker 1: this again and hopefully, you know, we can get a better,
Speaker 1: better cut. We're gonna you know, I'm I'm always really
Speaker 1: doing interviews and talking and chopping it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: because I love the back and forth commandery, camaraderie. That
Speaker 1: that that that's called building yeah, for real, and that's
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I didn't want to come
Speaker 1: on and talk to you about the other members of
Speaker 1: the WOULD team claims. That's what That's not what we're
Speaker 1: here to talk about. You know what I mean? Just
Speaker 1: being with you man this morning, man, because I after
Speaker 1: reading your book, it kind of change because I had
Speaker 1: the traditional questions already. Man, Then I read the book
Speaker 1: and I was like, Man, this dude is a real nigger.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, partner expression, but you know,
Speaker 1: the real brother you've been doing. I said, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have a conversation with him, man, And so I definitely, man,
Speaker 1: want to do this again because you know, when it's
Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning, man, your brain is kind
Speaker 1: of just getting like I feel like I'm just geting
Speaker 1: warmed up, you know, but I know you gottah. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So what I'm saying, don't be
Speaker 1: afraid of call hit My people's up say yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm very humble with my jake, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, getting to this, getting this
Speaker 1: far in my life and being the things I've been
Speaker 1: in survival and ain't being no swoll heading nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: just this just made me a little more humble and
Speaker 1: made me more closer to the flow. Man, I just
Speaker 1: take grounding. Man, you know what I'm saying, so when
Speaker 1: you live with the great thing. It was about the
Speaker 1: day's technology. One thing about it. I don't trust this
Speaker 1: technology all the time. Man, But thank God for editing nowadays,
Speaker 1: so that you know what I'm saying with sound like
Speaker 1: a million dollars off your brother, Man, I appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 1: N Let's definitely do this again. Man, I want to
Speaker 1: do this again because I don't know we're three hours apart.
Speaker 1: I want you to get the full gangster Crowns experienced. Man.
Speaker 1: You know we changed there, Man, were really just talking
Speaker 1: about you know what I'm saying, We really just just
Speaker 1: really just built. You know what I mean? You gotta
Speaker 1: keep building, baby, you gotta keep building to destroy evil
Speaker 1: and destroy that negative energy to talk about positive got built, man,
Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you this man. You
Speaker 1: got ro man, where can like we went your social
Speaker 1: media handles? Bron that you can go. You can go
Speaker 1: to you Guard underscore Zilla, get me on Instagram. I
Speaker 1: mean then you got you got the woutang on Twitter.
Speaker 1: My Facebook is kind of ify right now. I gotta
Speaker 1: get back in effect because I got kicked off that
Speaker 1: ship and TikTok. I ain't really taking and talking right
Speaker 1: now because I'm that's not in the move to be
Speaker 1: acting like, you know, that type of buffoonery yet. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do that, but don't. I might post some
Speaker 1: ship that may be funny whatever whatever. But other than
Speaker 1: that is you God underscore zilla on Instagram, and you
Speaker 1: gotta utang on Twitter, and I think that you gotta
Speaker 1: utang again on on Facebook. Yeah that's about it, bro. Man. Sure, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man, you have a blessed state. Man,
Speaker 1: and must continuous sess man. I mean that. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back on you. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like I'm just getting one of
Speaker 1: them something over. Earlier, I was like, man, it's early,
Speaker 1: but I had to do this though. Man. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: called me Early Hawkins anyway, Baby, I'm always never only man. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm on your brother man. You and you're the rest
Speaker 1: of your sea out there. Oh your head up. Remember
Speaker 1: like I said, by stay away back passing to the babies. Man,
Speaker 1: they don't want to knowledge, just get one and one
Speaker 1: It that's all. Get one. That's all we need. Broe one,
Speaker 1: that's all we need, all right, bro. Appreciation the man,
Speaker 1: How good you? Next guy,