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Speaker 2: Woo oh pay per view fight. We good to be

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Speaker 2: back with you.

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Speaker 3: Monday October twenty eight, twenty nineteen is the year. It's

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Speaker 3: episode two, twenty three of the Anik and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 3: How about this Damian Maya in the Nature of Time

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Speaker 3: twenty third UFC win over Ben Askrin and I think

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Speaker 3: there's more to talk about, honestly on the Askron side.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But if you were somehow a Maya doubter before, at

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Speaker 3: least as far as his Hall of Fame candidacy was concerned,

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Speaker 3: a main event win over Ben Askron and Singapore certainly

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Speaker 3: does not hurt the case. I went through the wins

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Speaker 3: list today. Uh, just an incredible win for Damian Maya

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Speaker 3: in a career full of them had to dig deep

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Speaker 3: at times. I thought Astron showed some improvements, but twenty

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Speaker 3: three UFC wins for Damian Maya and this one had

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Speaker 3: to feel pretty good. I would think over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: Kid just spectacular.

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Speaker 5: And I know this was a match that Damian Maya

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Speaker 5: was very interested in himself to kind of determine who

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Speaker 5: the best one hundred and seventy pound grappler was.

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Speaker 2: He obviously answered that pretty easily.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was extremely dominant on the ground for

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Speaker 5: the most part against Ben Asper and a guy who

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Speaker 5: has made a career out of taking people down repeatedly

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Speaker 5: and controlling them and taking them out of their game.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think this is the same Ben

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Speaker 5: Askron that we saw when he was in his prime.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Dean Thomas tweeted something to the effect of, Hey, we

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Speaker 5: can't judge Ben Askron or Ben Askern's career based.

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Speaker 2: On what we've seen in the UFC so far.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's something that maybe his skills

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Speaker 5: have dropped he hasn't kept up, or maybe he took

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Speaker 5: too much time away from the sport, or the UFC

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Speaker 5: is just another level. But he's just not performing the

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Speaker 5: way he was outside of the UFC, and Damian Maya

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Speaker 5: proved to be way more skillful. I mean, Maya looked

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Speaker 5: and again, Maya's strength is not his striking, but to

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Speaker 5: see him completely outclass Askron on the feet was I

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Speaker 5: think significant as far as Ben Askrin and what he

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Speaker 5: wants to do moving forward, and then to see him

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Speaker 5: really dominate on the ground as well and reverse him

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Speaker 5: with what seemed to be pretty easily a guy like

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Speaker 5: Askrin with that wrestling base, It was kind of surprising,

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Speaker 5: and he just cut through right to mount Askron just

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Speaker 5: did not have an answer really for anything pretty much,

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Speaker 5: aside from a couple of beautiful takedowns that Askron hit.

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Speaker 2: This was a tough performance for.

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Speaker 3: Him anything for us. On the technical submission, the rear

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Speaker 3: naked choke. I know Ben Askron was asked about it

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Speaker 3: after the fact. I know you sort of touched on

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but anything that he I mean, what

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Speaker 3: was the fatal flawed thily just allowing that position?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for the most part, you can't let

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Speaker 2: That that was his first mistake.

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Speaker 5: He was allowing him to pass so easily right into

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Speaker 5: that smash pass, which Maya is so well known for.

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Speaker 5: It Just to me, it seemed like Askuin just didn't

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Speaker 5: do his homework. Once he got around to the back

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Speaker 5: and Maya had that underneath the neck, it was all

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Speaker 5: over even it does you know, Yes, it's easier to

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Speaker 5: but with Dami and Maya's ability to get around your neck,

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Speaker 5: part of the body. Askron was in deep trouble. Looked

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Speaker 5: like he went to sleep there for about a second.

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Speaker 5: But it seemed like Askrin. I know Askron mentioned something

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Speaker 5: about getting over confident. It seemed like that could have

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Speaker 5: of the first round, that's when he hit the takedown.

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Speaker 5: He then went forward again in the second round. In

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Speaker 5: the third round, however, he started going for the takedown

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Speaker 5: much much earlier, which gave Damien Maya that much more

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Speaker 5: ground like my even though he's not so well known

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Speaker 5: He should have stayed disciplined and taken him down at

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Speaker 5: the end of the round. I think Askron felt a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not just because I'm a commentator.

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Speaker 3: Every time Maya gets a fight to the canvas, I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at the clock right it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh gee, how much time are you going to

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Speaker 3: So exactly in terms of what Dean Thomas has to

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Speaker 3: say and how we judge Ben Astron's career. I never

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Speaker 3: profess to be an MMA historian, but this is hard, right,

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Speaker 3: this is part of the narrative. I love Dean, one

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Speaker 3: of my favorite people in the game. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I agree with that part of things, right, I think

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Speaker 3: you got to come out as a betting favorite and

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Speaker 3: used the word controversial to describe his bulldog choke win

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Speaker 3: over Robbi Lawler. So I know Ian Parker, who I

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Speaker 3: to make some sense. But before we spin it forward

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Speaker 3: for Ben, just big picture on Damien Maya. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: run through the wins lists very quickly because I want

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Speaker 3: to give him the shine, even though there's all this

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Speaker 3: Damian Maya. Right, the dude was left for dead after

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Speaker 3: he lost to all elite competition. Right, Tyron Woodley Coleby Covington,

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Speaker 5: You know if he doesn't, if he doesn't end up

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Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame, it would be a complete travesty.

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Speaker 5: This is a guy that really came in with a

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Speaker 5: that is very much a throwback. He has continued to

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Speaker 5: This is a true martial artists.

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Speaker 2: Through and through.

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Speaker 5: And if you're looking for a model of how to

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Speaker 5: Damian Maya. That is the way you get it done,

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Speaker 5: and that is the approach to martial arts. Ben Askron

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Speaker 5: Maya clearly worked on all of the skills top bottom wrestling, striking,

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Speaker 3: So you and Domina Cruz oftentimes will talk about MMA

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Speaker 3: what Dean Thomas says. You like a Robbie lawlerymatch for

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Speaker 3: Ben Askron? What would you like to see in terms

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Speaker 5: You know, a fight against Robbie Lawler does make sense.

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Speaker 5: I think people want closure from that I'm both. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure both Robby Lawler and Ben Askrin want some closure,

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Speaker 5: much of an argument for why he should stick around. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: So his back is against the wall right now.

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Speaker 5: It's unfortunate to see because I had very high expectations

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Speaker 5: for Ben Affron. This was a tough stylistic matchup for

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Speaker 5: Damian Maye. You look at how Damian Maya has done

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Speaker 2: Isn't the best of signs.

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Speaker 3: A lot of us were so excited to see this

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Speaker 3: decorated United States wrestler Ben Askron come into the UFC

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Speaker 3: so that he would get the chance to prove that

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Speaker 3: I believe it was Leon Edwards who tweeted over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: I think the casual in me would say, oh, come on,

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Speaker 3: Asker in certainly top fifteen. I mean, just his specialization

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Speaker 2: I think he could be right about that.

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Speaker 5: And I think from what he's shown, man, he's just

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Speaker 5: It's not it's not demonstrated in what he's doing out there,

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Speaker 5: even as far as his ability to get to a takedown.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing striking wise to set up those

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Speaker 5: amazing takedowns that you have. He looks like he's still

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Speaker 5: his takedowns. I also think we've seen ben Asgrin take

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Speaker 5: a lot of damage in his fights, and it just

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Speaker 5: could be that it's catching up with him now. The

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Speaker 5: flash knockouts. That devastating knockout by Jorge Masvidal. You're not

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Speaker 5: going to be the same after something like that, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean you can't.

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Speaker 2: This takes time.

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Speaker 5: Again, sometimes it takes a little while for this damage

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Speaker 5: to sit in. And he's been fighting a very long time, John,

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Speaker 5: and I think now that we're seeing get caught with

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Speaker 5: these brutal shots from Robbie Lawler to Jorge Masvidal to

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Speaker 5: all these things, it's it's not a good sign.

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Speaker 2: It might be time for him to retire.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to see him take any damage, any

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Speaker 3: Certainly hasn't been this mass evolution, And I'm glad you

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Speaker 5: It's just not well to the point where I think

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Speaker 5: He's always been outspoken against people who have used the

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Speaker 3: That's the whole rub. It's when you have nothing to hide.

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Speaker 2: What do you think when we got ahead, so.

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Speaker 4: You know, Like, look, he left for Hawaii today.

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Speaker 4: my friend I wasn't calling him. I was like, this

435
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Speaker 4: guy's gonna kill him. He has, He's not even picking

436
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Speaker 4: up the phone. But you know, I was busy because

437
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 4: I had that that kid fight in Bellato this week too,

438
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Speaker 4: So I mean I just left Forston and when basically

439
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 4: right to Connecticut, so I've been all over the place.

440
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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I'll definitely get a hold of them.

441
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Speaker 4: And you know, we haven't really talked extensively. You guys

442
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: want to make sure he's all right because it's a

443
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Speaker 4: tough thing to go through and you know that type

444
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Speaker 4: of tale. So I really haven't spoken to him because

445
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Speaker 4: I was I was away again, so uh, as soon

446
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Speaker 4: as he gets back, I'll fill you in on everything.

447
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: But it was just did look it was a you know,

448
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 4: winning and lose. It's all part of life and the

449
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: quality guys, and I how to you know, handle both

450
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Speaker 4: sides of it. But it does, uh, it does suck,

451
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Speaker 4: you know. So we'll see where we go. But uh,

452
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Speaker 4: you know, and again I don't like talking to people

453
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Speaker 4: right after. I think you need to give them time

454
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Speaker 4: to sit and reflect and you know, really uh see

455
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Speaker 4: where they're at and what they need to do. So

456
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Speaker 4: I give him another week, let him, let him enjoy

457
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Speaker 4: himself with his face on me and a y and

458
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Speaker 4: then when he comes back, we'll talk about it.

459
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Speaker 3: So you had reason to celebrate though this weekend. I

460
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Speaker 3: saw your Instagram page. I don't know if it was

461
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Speaker 3: a fighter who was making his pro debut or what

462
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Speaker 3: was going on, but big. There seemed to be a

463
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Speaker 3: big win that you were enjoying over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure I was pulling the cood. He's a young

466
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Speaker 4: kid that fights at gym, but no, that was his

467
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Speaker 4: pro debut, and yeah, he was just really really impressed

468
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Speaker 4: with his poise and how calm he was and the

469
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Speaker 4: way he handled that fight, and in front of his

470
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Speaker 4: first big stage. You know, Bellatoe was a nice car.

471
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Speaker 4: They run a great show, very very nicely run, and

472
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Speaker 4: they had a good crowd, and yeah he did. I

473
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Speaker 4: was blown away by just how patient he was, and

474
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Speaker 4: that's why I put that post up. I mean, he

475
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Speaker 4: really wrestled the guy a lot of squeeze and a

476
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Speaker 4: lot of wrestling, and he was able to come up

477
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Speaker 4: with like a sugar Ray len and combo at the

478
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Speaker 4: end to start that fight right into a takedown. I

479
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Speaker 4: thought it was picture perfect. And he didn't overrun this guy,

480
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Speaker 4: he didn't make rookie stakes even though it was his

481
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Speaker 4: first pro fight, and it's just, uh, it was a

482
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Speaker 4: great night that kids got a really really bright future.

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Speaker 2: Very cool.

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Speaker 3: All right, before we let you go, there have been

485
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Speaker 3: two UFC Bandamway fight announcements since we were last on

486
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Speaker 3: the air, as your guy, Alja maner Sterling sits on

487
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Speaker 3: the Men, So we got Pyotr Jan taking on Ryah

488
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Speaker 3: Faber and we have Jose Aldo taken on Marlon but Ice,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've had a chance to talk

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Speaker 3: to al Jo. I know he's excited to see these

491
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Speaker 3: divisional announcements and the fact that it's moving forward. Uh dude,

492
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Speaker 3: these are huge fights in a division that that obviously

493
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Speaker 3: has captivated my attention now for quite some time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I you know, listen, me and Alga took

495
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Speaker 4: the ferry over to the fight and we probably I

496
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Speaker 4: don't think we talked about that, but there's so many

497
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Speaker 4: other things to talk about it. I mean, things are

498
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Speaker 4: moving so quick over and we got you know, another

499
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Speaker 4: like a bunch of fights coming up within the next

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks. I don't believe we spoke about that,

501
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Speaker 4: but they are huge fights. And he's still on the kiss,

502
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Speaker 4: so don't I don't know when he's going to be ready.

503
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Speaker 4: I think he starts rehab in December, so I hope

504
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Speaker 4: he's ready to go early twenty twenty. But huge fights

505
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Speaker 4: for the bantamweight division. I'm not sure exactly what they mean,

506
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: but they're they're great matchups for name value and Martie

507
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Speaker 4: value for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So who does timeline? Probably is March April

509
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Speaker 3: or somewhere around there. So got to think if al

510
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Speaker 3: Joe can get that fight or at least get on

511
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Speaker 3: that card and a true title eliminator, we'll see.

512
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Speaker 2: But at least it's moving forward.

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Speaker 4: That would be great. And it looks like Frankie hasn't

514
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Speaker 4: mentioned anything either. I know they spoke about that fight. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 4: you know, so who the hell knows what's going on?

516
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Speaker 4: But I think I mean, again, martis value. Who doesn't

517
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Speaker 4: want to see Morlon and Aldo go at it? I

518
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Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, Aldo's never four to thirty five?

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Speaker 7: Am I correct with that?

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Speaker 2: No? He has not.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what's little confusing for me was one supposedly

522
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Speaker 5: was was becoming too difficult and that he was, you know,

523
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Speaker 5: eventually or ultimately going to move to one hundred and

524
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Speaker 5: fifty five pounds. Then he makes the announcement he's going

525
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Speaker 5: to fight one hundred and thirty five. I don't know,

526
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Speaker 5: listen skill wise. I mean, if they're able to bring

527
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent of themselves in that fight, that is

528
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Speaker 5: just an unbelievable fight. Marlon Marias you could argue, is

529
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Speaker 5: kind of a slightly more modern version of Jose Aldo

530
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Speaker 5: in some ways exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that is just a fascinating thing. But I don't know.

532
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Speaker 5: I hope all those chin and his body is able

533
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Speaker 5: to hold up in that fight, And I think the

534
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Speaker 5: UFC is probably looking at those two fights as potential

535
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Speaker 5: challengers right at some point, maybe in the near future.

536
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Speaker 4: Huge name, Yeah, Mark Revalue. I think it's great, but

537
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what that fight even means. Jose gonna,

538
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Speaker 4: first of Kenny make thirty five and number two, can

539
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 4: he stay at thirty five? Like it seems like everybody's

540
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: just looking to get a fight, no matter what weight

541
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Speaker 4: they have to go to, you know what I mean?

542
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Speaker 4: I don't know. But uh and the p you know,

543
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: aryah Fabe, he's no kid anymore, even though everybody loves him.

544
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean that's going to be a I think that's

545
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: a tough fight for your right just based on age

546
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: and you know, activity wise. But he looked great. He

547
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: looked like a world beater against Simon. He in him

548
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: with that overhand and who knows. So I think, like, again,

549
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: more key value, I get it. I think the huge

550
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: matchups for what anything actually means, I'm not really sure.

551
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm feeling that though.

552
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my read on it, just to speculate,

553
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: would be that Uriah feels like if he beats Pyotr Jann,

554
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: he's getting a championship opportunity, right, and that was his

555
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: incentive to take that fight. But Ray, we got to

556
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: let you go, bro, because we got to move this

557
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Speaker 3: thing along. You know, we're trying not to take too

558
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Speaker 3: many people's time. They say the wheel the wheelhouse for

559
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Speaker 3: a podcast like forty five to sixty minutes.

560
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Speaker 4: You know, So unless you've got anything, I'm rare to

561
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: go today, John, I can keep going.

562
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: Hey, what if you if you want to commit to

563
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes? No, I mean, if you got anything else,

564
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: we will certainly take it. I'd love a Moss Feedal

565
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: Diaz prediction if you got that, but otherwise we'll let

566
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: you fly.

567
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 2: What do you got?

568
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Speaker 4: Have a loyalty and I know him longer. I'm taking

569
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Speaker 4: nath Diez, I hope, you know, only because even the

570
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 4: way he handled this situation, I think the gods are

571
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 4: aligning themselves for a big one for that guy. But

572
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: mosbado mean, I've never ever bet against Osmadow except but

573
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: besides that, I never bet against them, certainly never bet again.

574
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: I never bet against Nate and Diaz, So I got

575
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Speaker 4: to go back to just who I know longer, and

576
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 4: who are you know. I got definitely more of a

577
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: relationship with Nate, so I'm definitely pulling to him. But

578
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: I love both guys. I think that I respect both

579
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: of them as fighters and people. So I hope it's

580
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: a great fight for the fans. That's all I got.

581
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Speaker 3: Enjoy the fight either from your couch or of course,

582
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: if you need ringside tickets, you just you just text

583
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: Kemflow will take care of those for you.

584
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy.

585
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: I actually have tickets for the fight. I'm not I'm

586
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: not sure where I'm going. I've just been away for

587
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: this every weekend I'm gone, so I might I don't

588
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: know to be there with my wife or I will

589
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: be there.

590
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: Well, you just opened yourself up to a lot of

591
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: phone calls.

592
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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, right, it's like that, like a

593
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: seriously hot ticket.

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00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: I've been.

595
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Speaker 4: They've already lined up in the gym. You say, are

596
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: you kidding?

597
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well you're John. Yes, I will be there.

598
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: I'll be there with my red sox hat. Okay.

599
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: If anybody gives you any trouble, you got my number.

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Speaker 1: It's all good.

601
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: It's a good John. We know people in high places.

602
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: I can't believe you promised me that I will do

603
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: my best. You know, I'm gonna do some push ups

604
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: a few days beforehand. I'll be ready to go.

605
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: Oh listen, I have a great time, all right, Kenny,

606
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: take it easy, buddy.

607
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Ray you too, dude.

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00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: All right, there he is Ray Long a minute every

609
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Speaker 3: week here on the Anakin Florian podcast, kenfl is going

610
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Speaker 3: to use the restroom.

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00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Get out of here, ken fll.

612
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the pronunciation of the week with TJ

613
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: while you're gone, and then we will get to Ian

614
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: Parker and everything else on this fine program. By the way,

615
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Speaker 3: we might pick the entire card you have four twelve

616
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Speaker 3: selections today in the main event challenge, but TJ's twelve

617
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Speaker 3: and ten on the year, So twelve and nine last

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Speaker 3: week I would have given him the win, Ken Flow

619
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Speaker 3: said no, So twelve and ten it is this fighter

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Speaker 3: fights out of Surrey, Nam eight no heavyweight trying to

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Speaker 3: move to three and zero. The UFC faces Andre Orlovsky

622
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Speaker 3: TJ DeSantis crack a mic?

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Speaker 2: Who a we talking about kid?

624
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I'd be undefeated, by the way, if Kenny was going

625
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: for the segment every week.

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Speaker 2: Hi, but right, Jarzenio rosenstrike All right, let's hear him

627
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: say it, Jerzino, biggy boy. See you just need Ken

628
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Speaker 2: Flow gone. I mean, did you just pure that thing?

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Speaker 3: It's like hitting the golf ball flush thirteen and ten,

630
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Speaker 3: No argument necessary. Let's hope that I can actually pronounce

631
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: it right in the main event challenge later in the program.

632
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: So thirteen and ten for TJ. That's well done out

633
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: of you, kid, and pretty intriguing heavyweight that I'm excited

634
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Speaker 3: to see fight live in person for the first time

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Speaker 3: this Saturday night at Madison Square Garden. As a true

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Speaker 3: seasons changed, Tom Brady will keep the Patriots in the hunt.

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Speaker 3: Every weekend, your favorite football players put their skills to

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Speaker 3: you're watching the games. We're almost halfway through the NFL season.

641
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: There are a ton of huge MMA shows coming up,

642
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Speaker 3: so now is the time to get off the sidelines

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Speaker 3: All right, before we make the picks for this week,

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Speaker 3: we did not talk about Stevie Ray's controversial majority decision

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Speaker 3: victory over Michael Johnson and the co main event in Singapore.

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Speaker 3: Ian Parker is now with US. Ian Parker a lifetime

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Speaker 3: in the MMA game, former manager wrestling Chops in his

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Speaker 3: life as well. So I just want to ask you

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Speaker 3: a general question on scoring. And I know you're an

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Speaker 3: efficient talker, and that's why maybe I'm giving you this one.

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Speaker 3: What do we do because no matter how you saw

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Speaker 3: the Ray Johnson fight, it certainly wasn't a robbery.

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Speaker 2: I thought MJ won the fight.

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Speaker 3: But Ian, if you're affecting change or in charge of change,

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Speaker 3: are you doing open scoring?

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Speaker 2: You do in half points?

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Speaker 3: Do judges reserve the right to maybe score a ten

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Speaker 3: eight round and then retroactively make around a ten to nine.

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Speaker 3: What can possibly be done to make judging more consistent?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's tough, especially in a fight like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know of how many people really, you know,

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Speaker 6: after they announced Ray the winner, it seemed like everybody

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Speaker 6: was trying to justify why he won instead of really

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Speaker 6: giving a clear cut decision, just like you and I

693
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Speaker 6: had talked about in that round three, you know what

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Speaker 6: really gives it a true ten aid? Obviously we know

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Speaker 6: the rules, but there's still a judgment call. It's tough.

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Speaker 6: I don't mind the half a point idea. I think

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Speaker 6: in order to really give put the fight back in

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Speaker 6: the fighter's hands so there aren't as many controversial decisions.

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Speaker 6: I think there should be open scoring. I don't see

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Speaker 6: a problem with fighters knowing what they're looking at going

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Speaker 6: into round three, especially in a fight like that. I

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Speaker 6: don't I think Michael Johnson, had he known that two

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Speaker 6: judges had the car and going against him, I think

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Speaker 6: you would have probably fought differently, with a different type

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Speaker 6: of sense of urgency and not get taken down and

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Speaker 6: do what Michael Johnson does and almost give the fight

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Speaker 6: away in round three. So that that's the best thing

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Speaker 6: that I could possibly think of that quickly. But that's

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Speaker 6: what I would do.

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Speaker 3: Canceller, you're the fighter in the room, and God, does

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Speaker 3: your beer look good today? It's a little lock you

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Speaker 3: let it go a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 5: It's a little out of control. Uh you know, listen,

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Speaker 5: I Ian I, I like that. I don't mind that suggestion.

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Speaker 5: The only problem is that's kind of you're building something

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Speaker 5: based on poor judging, right, Like that's the solution changing

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Speaker 5: the sport based upon the judging right.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Imagine you, Kenny in your prime right, look up at

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Speaker 3: the jumbo tron. You think you got two rounds banked,

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Speaker 3: like maybe Ben Askron going into the third, and you.

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Speaker 2: See that one judge gave the first two to Maya.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a mind fuck.

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, it absolutely is, and it's it's a thing

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Speaker 5: that is not solving the core problem, which is the

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Speaker 5: terrible judging that we have. Now Again, John, I agree

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Speaker 5: with you, this was not a robbery. But it was

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Speaker 5: a bad decision. You know, it was a bad decision.

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Speaker 2: You look at this fight and you go twenty nine

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Speaker 2: to twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you think that it's gonna be Michael Johnson that

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Speaker 5: gets the nod and no, I mean that is just

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Speaker 5: ridiculous to me. I don't know how the hell they

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Speaker 5: came to that conclusion. I think Stevie Ray was very tough.

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Speaker 5: He showed a lot of grit determination, but Michael Johnson

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Speaker 5: won the fight. He was the guy who was really

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Speaker 5: landing the more significant strikes.

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Speaker 2: He was busier. You know. Obviously he lost that third round,

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Speaker 2: but man, that was that was a that was a

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Speaker 2: bad call.

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Speaker 6: But round two, that was the other part. To serve

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Speaker 6: me off, like there's no other way, he landed for

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Speaker 6: four in a row, combinations that put Stevie's head backwards

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Speaker 6: multiple times that everyone went oh every time it hit.

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Speaker 6: You know, round one could have got a little funky.

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Speaker 6: But even then, though, how is it not even a

748
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Speaker 6: draw at worst case scenario? But I don't know, fuck right,

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Speaker 6: fucked up judging?

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Speaker 3: So Ken Flow is watching the fights at Long Island

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Speaker 3: Bagel with Ian Parker Saturday, morning. By the way, we

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Speaker 3: may get on that, by the way to our anticmploring

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Speaker 3: podcast listeners. All the whole time, he's just like, dude,

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Speaker 3: can we please FaceTime?

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Speaker 2: Can flow? Like, bro, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna wake flow And he don't want to see us

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Speaker 3: right now at all five in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have gotten tall guys, even.

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Speaker 6: For you, Joe Barney, I don't want you to feel

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Speaker 2: Right, well, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the best thing we could do

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Speaker 3: for judges, even though we need to move on, five

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Speaker 3: judges noise canceling headphones in the back. They don't even

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Speaker 3: put them in a room in New York City. Five

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Speaker 3: off we go or different ones, whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 3: All right, it was one thirty one, one twenty seven

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Speaker 3: going into Singapore. You guys agree on all six fights

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Speaker 3: if you recall, and went three and three across the board,

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Speaker 3: So Team Florian maintains control of the board, as they say,

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Speaker 3: one thirty four to one thirty.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on.

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Speaker 3: UFC, two forty four, first official pick for US. We're

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Speaker 3: going to try to do twelve today, but we'll see

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Speaker 3: how many we get. In featured Prelamani ESPN Johnny Walker

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Speaker 3: Blue minus one sixty, Corey Anderson plus one thirty Ian Parker.

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Speaker 2: Who do you have here, kid man?

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Speaker 6: This is an exciting fight. I think I'm more excited

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Speaker 6: to see where Johnny Walker's at against a very strong

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Speaker 6: wrestler in cardio machine Corey Anderson. That's really where I

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Speaker 6: want to see. Corey Anderson's talking a big game how

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Speaker 6: he deserves to be closer to the title shot, but

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Speaker 6: his wins have not really been all that exciting, and

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Speaker 6: they haven't been against top level competition, and Johnny Walker's

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Speaker 6: coming off his best, most exciting win so and then

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Speaker 6: hurting himself doing the stupid worm. I like Johnny Walker here.

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Speaker 6: I think when Corey Anderson fights a pressure fighter, especially

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Speaker 6: a pressure striker, he tends to fall shore against Jimmy Manuwa,

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Speaker 6: you know happened. And I think Walker is just a

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Speaker 6: freak of an athlete of his confidence is through the roof.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Corey he's a good wrestler, but Johnny

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Speaker 6: Walker is also a freak athlete. He's not going to

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Speaker 6: get the fight to the ground as easy as he

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Speaker 6: hopes for. Walker's have good takedown defense. I'm going with

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Speaker 6: the exciting fighter. I'm going Johnny Walker here.

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Speaker 3: Corey Anderson will always be beast in twenty five eight

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Speaker 3: to me, making his fourteenth UFC start. Here can flow

801
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: three straight wins overall for Anderson. Walker, of course, on

802
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Speaker 3: the other side, is one nine in a row Johnny

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Speaker 3: Walker three to zero in the UFC six five eighty

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Speaker 3: two inch reach all the athletic gifts seemingly three pro

805
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Speaker 3: losses though a huge fight at two zero five here

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Speaker 3: can flow?

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Speaker 2: Which way you going?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, what an opportunity for Corey Anderson to really

809
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Speaker 5: shut up all the doubters. But he is going as

810
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Speaker 5: a very athletic Johnny Walker, guy who can be reckless

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Speaker 5: at times, and against the guy who's very consistent and

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Speaker 5: very predictable when Corey Anderson. It's an intriguing fight because

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Speaker 5: of that. Two very different different styles here, and I

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Speaker 5: just see that Corey Anderson, it's gonna be difficult for

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Speaker 5: him to get in and get the takedown consistently. I

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Speaker 5: think the longer the fight goes, the more it favors

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Speaker 5: Corey Anderson, but Johnny Walker typically gets off to a

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Speaker 5: great start. Corey Anderson takes some time to warm up,

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Speaker 5: and I think that first round will be telling. I

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Speaker 5: think Johnny Walker most likely gets it done and gets

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Speaker 5: it done by some kind of a tkooh Ken flow.

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Speaker 3: Giving you the method even though you're not asking for it.

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Speaker 3: Chocked so far for Parker and Florian Oh at lightweight?

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Speaker 2: How good is this?

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Speaker 3: The undefeated Gregor Gillespie minus won sixty Kevin Lee plus

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Speaker 3: one thirty? So Lee back at one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: five pounds here after that main event at welterweight against

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Speaker 3: Hafeyel Dosanjos that was in May in Rochester, New York.

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Speaker 3: That was actually the third straight headlining spot for the

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Speaker 3: Motown Feen. I'm fourth overall main event in the UFC.

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Speaker 3: Ian Parker Gillespie fighting twice a year, but damn is

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Speaker 3: he good when he does fight?

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Speaker 2: Which way are you going in this one?

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Speaker 6: This one I've been going back and forth with because

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Speaker 6: when's the last time Kevin Lee fought someone who's been

836
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Speaker 6: ranked lower than him? And Kevin Lee is the underdog here.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Lee you know, obviously his last two fights have

838
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 6: not been at his best. You know, gets the rdat

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Speaker 6: one seventy top fight A's Ali and Clinton seems to

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Speaker 6: be his kryptonite. But let's not forget who Kevin Lee

841
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 6: did beat five rounds here and guys like Barbosa, He's

842
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 6: fought way better competition than Gregor had. Gregor is a

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Speaker 6: wrestling phenom, Cardio through the roof, but is the toughest

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Speaker 6: competition was Yante Maderos. I'm really having a hard time

845
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Speaker 6: here because this is a huge step up of competition.

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Speaker 6: Even though Kevin Lee is what owing to in his

847
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Speaker 6: last two fights, He's still an elite fighter. I still

848
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Speaker 6: think he's a top seven guy at fifty five, even

849
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Speaker 6: though he hasn't been there. I'm gonna pish shot here

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: a Kevin Lee as the underdog. You know, there's a

851
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 6: big difference in wrestling and MMA wrestling, and Kevin Lee

852
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: is a very underrated MMA wrestler, and this fight stays standing.

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00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: Kevin Lee is a very dangerous striker, and let's not

854
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Speaker 6: forget Kevin is a very dangerous fighter at three rounds.

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Speaker 6: So I'm kicking a shot here at three rounds. Kevin

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Speaker 6: Lee is the underdog.

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Speaker 2: Kemp fell a big part of this.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Lee the fight before the fight, right, making one

859
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six pounds on Friday, which is a

860
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: huge ask, right, And I think if he can get

861
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Speaker 3: through that part of things, you know, it could be

862
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Speaker 3: smooth sailing, although nobody has smooth sailing against Gregor Gillespie,

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Speaker 3: D one national champion, four time All American, Edinburgh University,

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Speaker 3: only true freshman to gain that All American status at

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Speaker 3: the school.

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00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: He's thirteen.

867
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: And oh, what do you think about this matchup for

868
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: Gregor Gillespie, best fisherman in MMA here against Kevin Lee.

869
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: That's right, Listen, I totally get why Ian is going

870
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: to go with Kevin Lee in this one. I think

871
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: he's larger, he has faced more competition, has more experience

872
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 5: in the UFC, has been switching things up, He's been

873
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 5: training over at tri Star.

874
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, he would be prepared.

875
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: I think his approach for this fight is to really

876
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: try to slow down Gregor Gillespie. I think Kevin Lee

877
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 5: needs to basically be extremely defensive early on, try to

878
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 5: thwart those takedown attempts from Gregor Glasby, get him tired,

879
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 5: get him doubting himself his game plan and then try

880
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: to turn it on later in the fight.

881
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be able to do that.

882
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 5: Gregor Gillespie is a guy that really utilizes that grinding style,

883
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 5: that high pressure style.

884
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: There are levels to the game.

885
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 5: Kevin Lee is a good wrestler, but certainly not of

886
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 5: the pedigree of someone like Gregor Gillespie.

887
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: I think Gillespie's needs.

888
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 5: To let his hands go, get some respect with his

889
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: hands and try to put Kevin Lee on his back.

890
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 5: I think if he's successful in putting him down in

891
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 5: that first round, Gregor Gillaspie is just gonna run all

892
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: over him. I really believe that the more momentum you

893
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: give someone like Gregor, the worse it gets. I'm gonna

894
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: go with Gillespie here to get the win.

895
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: Gillespie is an absolute monster, and there seems to be

896
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: this misconception out there that he's not a finisher. Right

897
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: six and on on in the UFC, He's finished the

898
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: last five guys, you know, and sometimes it isn't the

899
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: most crowd pleasing style, and he says about that, He's like,

900
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: I sign a contract, I'm trying to finish the guy

901
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: and five straight times I finished the guy?

902
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: What are you looking for?

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: Putting everybody away? Finishing fights like Ken Flip all right

904
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: heavyweight guys. Blagoy even off slight favorite here minus one

905
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: twenty five. Derek Lewis can be had at minus one

906
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: oh five. The question Ian Parker, do you want the

907
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: black Beast here? Coming off surgery torn ACL back in March.

908
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: I think people would see some value here on Derek Lewis.

909
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: What are you thinking?

910
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: In well number one, He's probably the most fun fighter

911
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 6: to hear after getting a win. I mean the hole

912
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 6: by balls with hotdeg will be the best name in

913
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 6: history forever today. However, I think this is a bad

914
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 6: matchup for him. You know, he's not a cardio machine

915
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 6: obviously and glogoing kydas. If you see his fights prior

916
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 6: to the UFC. Outside of knocking people out, he was

917
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 6: a grinder against the cage utilizes wrestling. You know, he

918
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: is awkwardly athletic for a guy of his build, and

919
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 6: his last fight he went against the guy who kind

920
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 6: of against a similar style with striking as Derek Lewis.

921
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 6: I think for Blagoy he's gonna have to really utilize

922
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: his cardio and that sounds hilarious in a heavyweight fighting.

923
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 6: Get to fight against the cage and bring it to

924
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 6: the ground and it's all his. I think Lewis needs

925
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: a very lucky shot to do it. Blogway's got a

926
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 6: hell of a chin. I'm gonna go with Blogoy here

927
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 6: as much as I agree with you, John, there's value

928
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: always in Derek Lewis as an underdog. He's got that power.

929
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 6: I just think Blogoy's blullying and pressure style is gonna

930
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 6: be too much of the Black Beast to come back

931
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 6: to you after a year of no action.

932
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken Flow Ivanov pretty accomplished guy. Had a big

933
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: combat sambo win over fedor Omilionao if I recall back

934
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight in a major spot.

935
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: Settled in pretty nice in the UFC.

936
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Back to back wins here this year over ty tyvasa

937
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: big Ben Rothwell, does he get a third straight here

938
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: over the black piece Derek Lewis?

939
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 5: Well, I you know, I think Ian said it best

940
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 5: in regards to Ivanov that he does have a very

941
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: good chin. He's a guy that just seems to be

942
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 5: able to stick around and pull off wins and win rounds. Consistently.

943
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: Eric Lewis is hit or miss. Uh literally, he is

944
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 5: a guy that can put your lights out. I think

945
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: if Derek Lewis does connect as good as Ivanoff's chin

946
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 5: has has been so far, he can certainly knock out

947
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 5: someone like Ivanoff.

948
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: I just don't see it happening.

949
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: I think Evnof needs to utilize his wrestling way more

950
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: in this fight, just to keep Derek Lewis guessing, to

951
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: slow him down, to get him tired.

952
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: I think if he's able to do that, uh look, blagoy,

953
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: well we'll get the win, all right.

954
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: Next up in welterweight Stephen Thompson minus one thirty Vicente

955
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: Luke even money just one win for WonderBoy in his

956
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: last five, knocked out by Anthony Showtime Pettis back in March.

957
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: On the other side, Vicente Luk, Now, this could be

958
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: Platinum Mike Perry's fight right against Wonder Boy Thompson. Had

959
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: Mike Perry gotten that co main event decision back in August,

960
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: but it was Luk squeaking by Platinum pushes the winning

961
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: streak to six ken flow. We will lead with you here, actually, Stephen,

962
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: wonder Boy Thompson, Vicente Luke, who do you like?

963
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Man? What a fight? You know?

964
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 5: I think wonder Boy is certainly the more technical striker,

965
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. I think Luk perhaps is

966
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: a little bit more dangerous because of his power, his

967
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: ability to get to the clinch.

968
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 2: Wonder Boy cannot let that happen.

969
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: I also think Luk would be in an advantage on

970
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 5: the ground, no doubt about that.

971
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: Wonder Boy. That has been his weakness.

972
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: But it is very difficult to take down Wonder Boy,

973
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: not only because he's been working on his wrestling, but

974
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: he has such phenomenal footwork. I do think that footwork

975
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 5: will be the difference in this fight. However, I think

976
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: his ability to avoid that forward pressure from Luke and

977
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: just pick him apart from the outside. He needs a

978
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 5: stick and move, not try to force the knockout, not

979
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 5: try to force things to happen, and stay in the pocket.

980
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 5: If he's able to do that, I think Stephen wonder

981
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: Boy Thompson comes back and gets the win here against

982
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: a very tough Luka.

983
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: And what do you thinks, Steve wonder Boy Thompson the

984
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: scente Luk.

985
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: I am shocked where these odds are at. I'm all

986
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 6: over one boy in this fight, betting everything I'm gonna

987
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: take out to fucking wind a credit. At this point,

988
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: I love this shit. You know what here, here's what

989
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 6: I look at right. I think the Kenny's point. Luk

990
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 6: may have the power advantage, but what he's showing me

991
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 6: in his last two fights is he does not fight

992
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: to his strength against the guy that has obvious leaknesses.

993
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 6: In the Barberina fight, he got lucky. He didn't even

994
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 6: try to get that fight to the ground. He was

995
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 6: trying to prove that he was tough and his boxing

996
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 6: is coming, you know, along as far as his jiu jitsu,

997
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 6: and it's just not gonna happen. You know, Mike Perry

998
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 6: could easily got that decision again against the guy who

999
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: has evolved tremendously in his striking. But all you know,

1000
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: but the ground game. There's an obvious advantage there for Luca,

1001
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 6: and he didn't do it in this fight with wonder Boy.

1002
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: The difference between the three of them is wonder Boy

1003
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: has really strong takedown defense, better striking the other two

1004
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: the angles. You know, Thompson is not your type a striker.

1005
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 6: He's got the karate style, the angles, which he throws kicks,

1006
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 6: and he's got cardio for gage, and Luk seems to

1007
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: kind of gas a little bit. Even though he's able

1008
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: to hang in there and fight, he still slows down.

1009
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 6: I just no, wonder Boys IQ way higher, the strikings better.

1010
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 6: I think Luk is not gonna even get close to

1011
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: him enough to even shoot in. I like WonderBoy in

1012
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 6: this fight a lot. You know, I don't think Luk

1013
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 6: is gonna knock him out. Everyone's gonna be a little

1014
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 6: weird on wonder Boy because he got hit with the

1015
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 6: Superman punch up. Until then, he was winning that fight

1016
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: no problem. You know, Tyler Woodley did not have an

1017
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 6: easy time getting WonderBoy down. I should tell you something.

1018
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 6: I like wonder Boy in this fight. I'm putting a

1019
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 6: lot of money on him, no question.

1020
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: There co main event also to be led by the

1021
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: flow here Kelvin Gasolam minus one ninety five, Darren Till

1022
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: plus one sixty. That was when I scripted the show. Now,

1023
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: Darren Till at least where I bet is plus one

1024
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: eighty five. We'll need the round of the method of

1025
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: victory here. Kenny absolutely loved this fight. Gasolum. You know

1026
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: trying to respond after taking part in not just the

1027
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: fight of the year front runner, but one of the

1028
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: best fights in UFC history against is Ara A low

1029
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: to sign you back in April. Till of course goes

1030
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: from seventeen to oh to one to seventeen two and

1031
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: one now moving up to one hundred and eighty five pounds.

1032
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: Huge spot for both of these fighters. Who do you

1033
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: think gets it done at ms chak It It certainly

1034
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: is man. This is a tough fight for Darren Till.

1035
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1036
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: I think he has been making some poor decisions in

1037
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 5: the fight that he fights that he's been taking. This

1038
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: is one of those that if he loses, could he

1039
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 5: be out of the UFC. I mean, I don't know.

1040
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 5: This is just I think mismanagement at the highest level.

1041
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: But I like Kelvin Gastolom in this one. I think

1042
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 5: he has a ton of experience. Can Darren Hill win

1043
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: this fight? Yes, I just think it's gonna be difficult

1044
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: for me. Darren Hill doesn't throw enough combinations. I think

1045
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: Kelvin gastlm can thwart that forward pressure. If Darren Hill

1046
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: decides to take that style and chase Kelvin down, I

1047
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 5: think Kelvin can always go to his takedown, utilize that

1048
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: reactive takedown, put Darren Hill on his back and take

1049
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 5: away that forward pressure easily. He also has a tremendous

1050
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: overhand left that he throws with ferocity. He seems to

1051
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: come in shape. He's always going to be well prepared,

1052
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 5: well trained, has a chin of granite.

1053
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: I like Kelvin in this one, and give us a

1054
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: round in a methodist by the way, great analysis on

1055
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: KG because that's really him in a nutshell. I do

1056
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: believe him to be a future world champion. You think

1057
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: he gets Till out of there inside of fifteen minutes or.

1058
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: What I think he can.

1059
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with an old classic Kenny Florian decision here, Jana,

1060
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: I'm going with the decision. I think it being three rounds,

1061
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: I think it'd be difficult it was if it was

1062
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: five rounds, I would say maybe a finish late. But

1063
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Kelvin Gaslin by decision here over

1064
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 5: Darren Till.

1065
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 3: And you heard Kenfilo say he doesn't love the matchup

1066
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: at least as far as Darre until taking it at

1067
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: this stage of his career.

1068
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: And it devetails with what.

1069
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: UFC President Dana White said this week that this wasn't

1070
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: his first choice for a matchup for Till, but he

1071
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: wanted this KG challenge.

1072
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: What do you think he does with it? Ian Parker,

1073
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: I'm actually.

1074
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 6: Careious to who that fight would have been if it

1075
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 6: wasn't Kelvin, because I agree I think this is I mean,

1076
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 6: did he not watch that fight against Atasnya? You know,

1077
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 6: this guy could easily be, uh what would have been

1078
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: the champ? And I do agree with you he is

1079
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 6: a future champion the making, you know. For for Till,

1080
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 6: he's not power. He has the reach, but to Kenny's

1081
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 6: point and Kenny needing the punch, I hate you for

1082
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 6: this one. Darren Kill does not really throw a combination

1083
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 6: consistently at all, And that's the biggest alfahul with someone

1084
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 6: who fancies himself a striker. Kelvin knows how to get

1085
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 6: on the inside. So for those people that are like, oh,

1086
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 6: Kill so much taller, you know, Kill is always so

1087
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 6: much taller, So that's not that crazy. You have a

1088
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 6: situation here. I think Calvin gets on the inside. I

1089
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: think Kelvin might have been trying to take this fight

1090
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 6: to the ground, you know, he doesn't have to, but

1091
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 6: I like, man, I really you know what, I'm gonna

1092
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 6: switch it up here. I may change it later in

1093
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 6: the week. I'm going Kelvin gasso him around two submission.

1094
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 6: I think Kelvin gets his fight to the floor, jumps

1095
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 6: on his back, and takes to the choke. I don't

1096
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: think he wants to really skin and strike if he

1097
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 6: doesn't have to. And that's where obviously the huge advantage is.

1098
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 6: I'm going Calvin right there.

1099
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: I made event for the BMF title. This man can

1100
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: like claim to being the baddest motherfucker on the planet.

1101
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 3: Guys Jorgey Mosfidal minus one eighty five, Nate dis plus

1102
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: one fifty five need the round and the method Ian

1103
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Parker who leaves MSG with that BMF belt on a.

1104
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 6: Betting standpoint in order to enjoy this fight. I'm not

1105
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 6: going to bet on this because I really just want

1106
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 6: to watch it without caring who wins. Just I want that.

1107
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: I want that war right now. It's tough.

1108
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: You know.

1109
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 6: Nads came off a long, long delay and he showed

1110
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 6: the world that he still got it, and he looked

1111
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 6: amazing against Tennis, and as it all has just been

1112
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 6: you know, baptizing people as he likes to call it

1113
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 6: as a Jew, I don't really understand that, but it's fine,

1114
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 6: as it is kind to kind of throw that one

1115
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 6: in there. But right now, based on the momentum, based

1116
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 6: on just where we're at, I think at any time,

1117
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 6: it's got to be Mazidoll's time. I know I say that,

1118
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 6: you know, might be a little cliche, but I think

1119
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 6: if Nate loses, he still has that Connor trilogy waiting

1120
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 6: for him. As think, right now, this is maid mazin

1121
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 6: All's one chance at this point in his career get

1122
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 6: a win. He made event MSG first made event for him,

1123
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 6: beat Nate and then have the winner of Usman versus

1124
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: Colby Covington and the story continues. I'm going with Street Jesus,

1125
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 6: I'm thinking mas it all. I'm just gonna say decision,

1126
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 6: because every time I think date's gonna get finished or

1127
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 6: whatever doesn't happen, Let's say mas it all. By the

1128
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 6: Ken flow decision can flow.

1129
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: Nate Diaz twenty fifth UFC appearance here. It could have

1130
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: been obviously a lot more had he not been idle

1131
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: for three years and ended that three year layoff just

1132
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: seventy three days ago win over Anthony Showtime. Pettis turns

1133
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: around here pretty quickly and taken on Jorge Mosfidal. If

1134
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: it weren't for Autosania, this would be the twenty nineteen

1135
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: Fighter of the year. Obviously, the big finishes over Darre

1136
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: until most recently Ben Askron.

1137
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: You know he wants the Usman or Covington fight.

1138
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: In order to get there, he's first got to beat

1139
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 3: Nate Diaz three oh five, two.

1140
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh nine East Coast, West Coast, Kenflow. Who do you

1141
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: like in the main event? Man, what a sick fight.

1142
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 5: I'm so happy this fight is happening, and these two

1143
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: guys who have been around the game for so long

1144
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: are finally getting their due, and it's happening kind of

1145
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: convergently here with these guys. I think that Masvidal early

1146
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 5: on is going to be a tough guy to deal with.

1147
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: I think he has a lot of offense.

1148
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 5: Early he's very explosive, and I think he's extremely skillful,

1149
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 5: both offensively and defensively.

1150
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: He has excellent wrestling. He's very good on the ground.

1151
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 5: He's not going to be easy to catch, and I

1152
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: think the more he can control the pace of this fight,

1153
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: the more that he can lead the dance and lead

1154
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: the flow of the fight.

1155
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: I think it will be his fight to lose.

1156
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 5: However, when Nate Diaz gets in there, it might take

1157
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 5: him a little while to heat up, but when he does,

1158
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 5: he creates a chaos and a pressure unlike any other

1159
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 5: fighter that can produce out there. He is a guy

1160
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 5: that is going to have the reach advantage. He has

1161
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 5: a tremendous chin. He will inevitably go to your body,

1162
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: which will slow you down. When things get tough. There

1163
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: is no fighter that will respond better than Nate Diaz.

1164
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: Jorge Mosvidal is absolutely tough, there's no doubt about it,

1165
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 5: as tough as they come. But Nate Diaz is one

1166
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 5: of those guys, similar to a Gaichee, similar to a

1167
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: Tony Ferguson, that is willing to die inside the octagon.

1168
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: I don't use those words lightly. Those are things that

1169
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: a lot of people love to say. But who's actually

1170
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: doing that, Who's actually, you know, not concerned with that

1171
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: If that's a possibility. Nate Diaz is one of those guys.

1172
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 5: And I think that the later the fight goes, the

1173
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: more it favors Nathan Diaz. It's hard for me to

1174
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 5: go against either of these guys, and if Jorge Mosvidal

1175
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: is the front runner early on, I just think that

1176
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: nadez Chin is good, going to hold up, and I

1177
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: see Nate Diaz getting a win late in this fight.

1178
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with t KO round five.

1179
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: Nathan Diaz absolutely incredible, and I will be listening back

1180
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: to all of your sage words when I fly to

1181
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: New York City. The safest bet of the week, though,

1182
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: can flow, is that Ian Parker's wife was going to

1183
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: win their conversation as to who is picking up the

1184
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: kids on Monday, and I trust you got to go

1185
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 3: pick up a kid or are you gonna stick around

1186
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: for our Rapid Fire quick picks.

1187
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 6: I'll do the Rapid Fire Quick picks, but after this week,

1188
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be available time after this week.

1189
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: So I bet k on your wife and I won

1190
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: easiest part I've ever.

1191
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 6: Pad All right, as you should. It was probably minus

1192
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 6: twelve hundred.

1193
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: So you know it's a KO round one.

1194
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, too easy, Too fucking easy. So this is a

1195
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: new segment during the main Event Challenge. It's called Rapid

1196
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: Fire debuts today. So from now on, all twelve UFC

1197
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: pay per views I need picks on every fight. Okay,

1198
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: so six quick picks apiece, give me five seconds if

1199
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: you want, but just need a winner. Ian Parker Featherweight

1200
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: Hakeem dowad do minus one thirty five Julio rs plus

1201
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: one oh five.

1202
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 6: I like da would do here. I didn't like the

1203
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 6: way that rsa uh had a plot a head kick

1204
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 6: in order to be Juliana Rosa can flow.

1205
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: Dow would do slight favorite here against Julio Rse. Going

1206
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: with daw would do all right.

1207
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: Another close one here at welch wait Liman Good minus

1208
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: one thirty chance ren Count is even money.

1209
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: Ian Parker, who do you like?

1210
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: Renkout screwed up my bet last time and taking liman

1211
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 6: Good striking is too good for this one. He better

1212
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 6: keeps his fight on the feet.

1213
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: Ten Flow Good or ren Count. Yeah, I'll go with

1214
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: Limon Good as well.

1215
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 6: All right.

1216
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 3: Women's flyweight title eliminator Caitlyn Chukegi and minus one sixty

1217
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: Jennifer Mayah plus one thirty.

1218
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Ian Parker, who do you have?

1219
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 6: I'm taking Jennifer Maya as the underdog here. I think

1220
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 6: Caitlyn lost the joy and calder what I think mayas

1221
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 6: style plays well in this fight.

1222
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: Can Flow mayas like dog here against Cheukegian? Who you

1223
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: back in? Kid?

1224
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 5: This is a tough one. I'm gonna go with. I'm

1225
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: gonna go the other way though, Jakegian.

1226
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: All Right, heavyweight Jarzeno rosen Strike trying to stay unefeated

1227
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: minus one sixty here against the ageless Andre Rolovski, who

1228
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: is plus one thirty Ian Parker.

1229
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 6: Oh dear god, I'm terrified for Arloski. I'm going rosen

1230
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: strike here. Oh my god, He's gonna hurt andres so bad.

1231
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: De Flow you agree on that one or what?

1232
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: There was a great soccer player back in the day.

1233
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 5: I believe it was in the seventies named Jarzenio for Brazil.

1234
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

1235
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 5: He was a brilliant striker. I think broke the record

1236
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: for most goals in the World Cup at the time.

1237
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 5: I'm going with Jarzeniel just because of that. No, this

1238
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: guy's a tremendous striker as well. Man comes from that

1239
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 5: kickboxing background. He is very dangerous.

1240
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: But man, I hate picking against Arloski, who has been

1241
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: doing really well lately.

1242
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: All Right, pick him fight here at middleweight boys Brad

1243
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: Tavores minus one fifteen, Edmund Schebazian minus one fifteen. Ken

1244
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: Flaw has been watching film on Shabazian today. Ian, what

1245
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: do you think tavoris Shabazian?

1246
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Pick him fight?

1247
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 6: I like Shabazi in here. I think that as much

1248
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 6: as I do like to var It, I just haven't

1249
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 6: seen that evolution in this game. I think this is

1250
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 6: a young prospect and this is a good matchup from

1251
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 6: his time stylewise to play vinto his favor as well.

1252
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 6: This is a good test at this point in his career.

1253
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: I like Shabazian.

1254
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: Ken Fler, what do you think should a Bazian all

1255
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: right and then finally fed away? Prelim Shane Burgos minus

1256
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: two point fifty mister Finland makwanamir Kani plus one ninety

1257
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: five in Parker, What do you think.

1258
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 6: Amir Khani surprised me in his last fight with that win, However,

1259
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 6: I think Shane Burgos just looked so so good and

1260
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 6: he got robbed of unious unanimous win by saying it

1261
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 6: was split against Cubb. I think if you can do

1262
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 6: that to Cub and you keep evolving, I think he

1263
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 6: wins this fight here. Mier Khani's tough, though. I just

1264
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 6: like the way Burgos is really developing it. He is

1265
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 6: huge for that weight class. I'm going Shane Burgos. I

1266
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: don't have any cool resilient soccer story.

1267
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: So with that, kentro Bergo, Samir Kani, who you like?

1268
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: I like Burghos in this one. All right, Ian Parker,

1269
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: have a great day, buddy. Always bet on your wife. Kid.

1270
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next Monday.

1271
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 6: A little burned before I leave. I enjoyed York.

1272
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: See there he is Ian Parker with us for the

1273
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,480
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1274
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1283
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Speaker 3: pick to click here on the Anakin flooran podcast. Get

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Speaker 3: to that later, but I know you've got your eyes

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Speaker 3: on USC two forty four. I was on your show

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Speaker 3: and you were talking about the odds for this main event,

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Speaker 3: you know, weeks out. But for our audience, Jorge mossfeedal

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Speaker 3: minus won sixty five range or so as the favorite

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Speaker 3: against Nathan Diaz. Any thoughts for the podcast listeners on

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Speaker 3: the main event coming up here six days from now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a few. Actually, I think Masvidoli's actually offering pretty

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Speaker 8: good value. Anywhere inside of minus one eighty is my opinion.

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Speaker 8: I'd be happy to get him anywhere up to minus

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Speaker 8: two hundredth Taking a look at Diaz, obviously, he's an

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Speaker 8: amazing character, as durable as they come. But I think

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Speaker 8: he's getting a little bit of a free pass and

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Speaker 8: maybe a little bit too much credit for his winning

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Speaker 8: his comeback fight over Anthony Pettis. People seem to be

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Speaker 8: forgetting that Pettest broke us fourth early in that fight,

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Speaker 8: taking away lay kicks, which you have to assume we're

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Speaker 8: a pretty big part of his game plan that set, though, John,

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Speaker 8: I think the best bet you can make for this

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Speaker 8: fight is for it to go to decision, which is

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Speaker 8: coming in at around minus one forty five. Like I said,

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Speaker 8: Diaz as durable as it comes. He's only been finished

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Speaker 8: once in twenty four fights in the UFC. Mazdal meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: it's gone ten years without being finished. So you can

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Speaker 8: spet minus one forty five. Either fighter can win. It

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Speaker 8: just has to go to a decision.

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Speaker 3: Kenth Linda crazy and I was there obviously on the call.

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Speaker 3: Toby Emata's inverted triangle choke upside down reverse style was

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Speaker 3: the last time Mosfival has been finished.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's unbelievable, It's unreal. That was one of

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Speaker 5: the first what one of the first couple of weeks

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Speaker 5: that we met. We did the show and we were

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Speaker 5: talking about it, and uh, pretty crazy, man.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Joe Osborne on Twitter at j t foz. All right,

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Speaker 3: so Masvidal versus Daz, you like it to go the distance,

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Speaker 3: which could be nail biting time for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: If they're testing each other's chins late Cole main event.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you read into early fight week

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Speaker 3: line movement.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know we mentioned earlier that Kelvin Gasolin was minus

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Speaker 3: one ninety last night. You know, now I'm seeing minus

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Speaker 3: two thirty at least where I play. So Darren till

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Speaker 3: as high as plus one ninety. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: think maybe till By off more than he can chew

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Speaker 3: here at his UFC middleweight debut, and he leaned for

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Speaker 3: us on the comane Joe.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like Gasolin to win this one, but you

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Speaker 8: know what, he opened up minus one fifty five, which

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Speaker 8: I thought was fair. But he's getting a little bit

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Speaker 8: overvalued now. He's one of these guys who's been chronically

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Speaker 8: undervalued in his career, especially at middleweight, usually because he's

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Speaker 8: a little undersized, maybe a little soft in the mid

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Speaker 8: section if you want to get into analysis of the

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Speaker 8: mail to seek. Probably not the podcast for that though,

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Speaker 8: but kil really unique spot for him. You know, he's

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Speaker 8: moving up a weight class and he's actually gonna have

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Speaker 8: a size advantage here. But something we've seen time and

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Speaker 8: time again in the UFC is fighters being unable to

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Speaker 8: revive their careers after a few bad losses.

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Speaker 4: Look at Chris.

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Speaker 8: Widman, for example, who I was dead wrong on in

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Speaker 8: his fight when I was on your podcast at two

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Speaker 8: weeks ago. He's just twenty six years old. He has

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Speaker 8: that reputation as for having age savage weight cutch when

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Speaker 8: he was at one seventy. Maybe this will be the

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Speaker 8: best thing.

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Speaker 5: For his career.

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Speaker 8: But we've seen Gasolin deep bigger men before. And let's

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Speaker 8: not forget yet Israel Dasanya on the ropes early in

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Speaker 8: that fight, so I like him, but I think he's

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Speaker 8: kind of overpriced here, so not much betting value on him.

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Speaker 3: I love talking MMA with these sharp Canadians. I think

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of betable fights on this pay

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Speaker 3: per view card. I think on the fight card top

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Speaker 3: to bottom, anything else, Joe peak your interest before we

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Speaker 3: sort of look ahead a week none in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one set of odds really stood out to me,

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Speaker 8: and that's Kevin Lee at plus one thirty five over

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Speaker 8: Connor Gilepsi and comes back at minus one sixty five.

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Speaker 8: And I love Kevin Lee in the spot. Actually, he

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Speaker 8: is easily the biggest test of Gilepsi's career so far.

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Speaker 8: And I think this line may be a bit of

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Speaker 8: an overaction to Lee's two fight winning streight previous to

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Speaker 8: this fight. Lee was actually the favorite in five of

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Speaker 8: his last six fights, including his last two versus RDA

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Speaker 8: and I quin At both losses, of course, but if

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Speaker 8: you look at the losses in Lee's career, they all

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Speaker 8: tend to come in very high pressure, main event type fights.

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Speaker 8: This one, the lights won't be shining as brightly. He

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Speaker 8: won't have the media obligations that he has had in

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Speaker 8: the past, so I think that might help him out.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's up in Montreal training with Tristarren gsp

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Speaker 8: so making some changes there. I think you could see

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Speaker 8: him get back on track and give Galaxy the first

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Speaker 8: loss of his career.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll see how it shakes out this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Before we let you go, I'm playing the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 3: plus fourteen and a half or whatever it is tonight

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Speaker 3: against the Steelers and Mason Rudolph. I know you don't

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Speaker 3: have much of an appetite for what could be some

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Speaker 3: sort of rock fight on Monday night football, but anything

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Speaker 3: looking ahead in the National Football League Week nine or

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Speaker 3: otherwise for our cappers and betters out there.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, John, And it is your New England Patriots coming

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Speaker 8: in at minus three and a half in Baltimore for

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Speaker 8: Sunday Night Football and Week nine. And for some reason,

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Speaker 8: the Patriots people don't like betting on them. I think

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Speaker 8: the casual better does. But people who considers them so

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Speaker 8: sharfs don't like betting on the Patriots. But guess what,

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Speaker 8: you're losing a lot of money. They're six and two

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Speaker 8: against the spread so far the season. Looking at the

1404
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 8: bigger sample size, the best bet in the league over

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Speaker 8: the last five seasons. Taking a look at a few

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Speaker 8: things versus that Baltimore though Patriots. They're on a thirteen

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Speaker 8: game win streak wind merge and of over twenty ten

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Speaker 8: and two against spread in the last twelve. Specific to

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Speaker 8: this matchup, we know Lamar Jackson very different type of TV.

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Speaker 8: But I think they can devise a game plan to

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Speaker 8: bottle not make the pro. This might be no, I

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Speaker 8: should say it probably is the best defense of the

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Speaker 8: Belichick bread. They're allowing seven point six points per game,

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Speaker 8: first and opponent yards for play, opponent third down conversion,

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Speaker 8: second in sacks, and one little nugget here, a little

1416
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Speaker 8: trend you might not buy too much into this, but

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Speaker 8: I think there's something to it. Patriots nine to one

1418
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Speaker 8: straight up in the last ten games before a buye,

1419
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Speaker 8: so you had to believe there's a strong motivation to

1420
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Speaker 8: go into the buy on a winning note. And also

1421
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Speaker 8: you dig into some of those some numbers, the bu

1422
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Speaker 8: defense not very good. So I love the Patriots at

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Speaker 8: minus three to half in Baltimore, and.

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Speaker 2: You set up a good argument for it.

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: And you're right when you're not betting on New England

1426
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: as I don't because I'm always fading them just trying

1427
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Speaker 3: to purchase wins. You're losing money all right on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: You can find them at j T Foz Joe Osborne,

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Speaker 3: oddshark dot com.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time as always, sir, great stuff.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thank you John, Thank you Kenny. I good luck

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Speaker 8: to both of you, guys, and good luck to all

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Speaker 8: the listeners out there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: There is Joe Osbourne. You can see his daily show.

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Speaker 3: I believe it is Guys and bets over at oddshark

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Speaker 3: dot com. For me, opening lines, closing lines. That is

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Speaker 3: my first stop, oddshark dot com. All right, that is

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Speaker 3: it for this week.

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Speaker 2: We got out here.

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Speaker 3: I mean May ROCKYBJJ has been open since seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: Those open seven and a half? That is correct?

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Speaker 5: And before we go, I just want to say, I

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Speaker 3: Thanks to all the guests, Thanks to TJ, to Santa's

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Speaker 3: it does. We'll talk to you next Monday. We will

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