WEBVTT - Single Best Idea with Tom Keene: Rebecca Lissner & Ellen Wald

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>A single best Idea and an extraordinary Tuesday. When Paul

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<v Speaker 2>and I started the show this morning, we have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea where we're going. Ten minutes before we started, literally

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<v Speaker 2>we were on here with Nathan Hager. Demarca jumped this

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<v Speaker 2>off missile attacks at carg which became military sites according

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<v Speaker 2>to the Wall Street Journal. As you listen to single

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<v Speaker 2>Best Idea, I have no idea where this story will unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're committed to is talking to people who are

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate experts who have really thought about this long before

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<v Speaker 2>any moment of punditry. Rebecca Listener is with the Console

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<v Speaker 2>on Foreign Relations, a wonderful essay recently on realism in

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<v Speaker 2>foreign diplomacy. Here is Rebecca Listener on the moment at hand.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump has said if Iron doesn't come to the

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<v Speaker 1>table for negotiations, doesn't reopen the straight of hor Moods

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<v Speaker 1>by eight pm Eastern tonight, he's going to bomb them

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Stone Ages. He's threatened a new Infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>Day that takes on power plants and bridges. Some would

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<v Speaker 1>say that these could constitute war crimes, but he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a way to de escalate this conflict because he

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<v Speaker 1>entered into it with no plan and no strategy and

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<v Speaker 1>now is having trouble finding a way out. So my

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<v Speaker 1>expectation is he's hoping to bridge the gap between what

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<v Speaker 1>are two very maximalist set of demands that both sides

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<v Speaker 1>have put on the table and negotiations and try to

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<v Speaker 1>really open a diplomatic path that helps at least get

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<v Speaker 1>to a ceasefire that puts a pause on this conflict

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<v Speaker 1>and takes some pressure off the markets.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebecca Listener to the Council on Foreign Relations along that

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<v Speaker 2>idea of diplomacy, A piercing conversation, maybe the most acute

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<v Speaker 2>ever with ellen Wald. She's with the Atlantic Council, but

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<v Speaker 2>far more ellen Wald were There're one volume Saudi inc

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. Ellen Wald on the allies in the

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<v Speaker 2>Persian Gulf.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that the US is in constant contact

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<v Speaker 3>with Saudi Arabia, with the Saudi government along with other

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<v Speaker 3>you know, GCC governments. This is a huge issue for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and the potential for the war to grow even wider

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<v Speaker 3>is growing at this point because with Iran essentially acting

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<v Speaker 3>as this kind of toll master of the straight of horror, moves.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not something that Saudi Arabia, or the UE

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<v Speaker 3>or any of the other countries that rely on this

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<v Speaker 3>waterway can stand for.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen Wald, her book is Saudi. Can't say enough about

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage. A major, major shout out to our Tea

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<v Speaker 2>Live team covering the Iran War. It stretches from Washington

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<v Speaker 2>to Westminster today with Kiers Starmer's people weighing in, to

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<v Speaker 2>our Queen Victoria Street headquarters in Dublin and on over

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<v Speaker 2>to Dubai an Istabule. Major shout out to Patrick Sykes

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<v Speaker 2>and istabul who started the show today on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at Apple, where at Spotify on YouTube podcasts. It's

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<v Speaker 2>single best idea.