WEBVTT - Trade Deadline Reactions: Red Sox bold moves, Padres keep dealing

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<v Speaker 1>Masslave dot Com columnist and co host of the Fenway

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<v Speaker 1>Rundown podcast, Sean McAdam is joining us right now. Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the time, and it is interesting times

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<v Speaker 1>up there in Boston. So I'll just start generically with

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<v Speaker 1>what you think about what they did, Like, how excited

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<v Speaker 1>is the fan base. Didn't they have one of their

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<v Speaker 1>best attendance days Tuesday night?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did. They've been selling out Fenway for the

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<v Speaker 2>better part of this last month, ever since the turnaround began,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think for the most part, the fan base

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<v Speaker 2>likes the deals they made earlier this week. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of deals, frankly that maybe aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 2>fully evaluated or properly evaluated for a while now, because

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<v Speaker 2>so much of what the Red Sox gave up are

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<v Speaker 2>futures young starting pitchers. So it isn't as if they

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<v Speaker 2>subtracted from the active roster in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff hunt. It's going to take a while to see

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<v Speaker 2>whether this was a good deal or not. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, adding somebody like Adley Rutchman and sort of

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<v Speaker 2>around the fringes of the roster with Eli White as

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<v Speaker 2>a depth outfielder and Eric Miller as a high leverage

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<v Speaker 2>lefty in the bullpen. Are certainly the kind of moves

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<v Speaker 2>that a team in contention would make, and a team

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<v Speaker 2>that all of a sudden is kind of going for

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<v Speaker 2>it would make.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean. The reason they sold out was the White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>were in town. That's why. So let's not. Let's not.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't diminish the game they played last night and

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<v Speaker 4>how much the White Sox did not show up to

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<v Speaker 4>that game.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know Davis Martin brough first inning anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've roughed him up twice in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. They beat him in Chicago too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't Why are you reminding me, Sean? I

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<v Speaker 4>was going to give you credit for being a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you're back to being a masshole. So it's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fine. I love what you just said, though about

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<v Speaker 4>we won't know for a few years whether this trade matters. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>That such a difference from what we thought we knew

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<v Speaker 4>about Craig Breslo.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, we don't want to give up this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to give up this guy. Now, all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, boom, we give a fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Game winning streak we go twenty nine to five in

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<v Speaker 4>our last thirty four games, and now we'll give up

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<v Speaker 4>what allegedly is our top prospects.

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<v Speaker 3>What changed just the winning streak?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think a couple of things. The winning streak

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<v Speaker 2>certainly played a role here. They've gone from fourteen games

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<v Speaker 2>under five hundred to ten games over, and as recently

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<v Speaker 2>as the day of the deadline they were nine games over.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty big swing. That's one thing. A second

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's a wide open American league. As you

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<v Speaker 2>guys know, there is no super team. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the Dodgers or the Brewers in the National

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<v Speaker 2>League to worry about. The Red Sox are essentially have

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<v Speaker 2>snuck up on both the Yankees and Rays in the East.

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<v Speaker 2>They have gone a combined eight to zero against those

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<v Speaker 2>two teams head to head in the last month. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was a pathway to get to the World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>which would have been laughable only a month ago. And finally,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's some impatience on the part of the

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<v Speaker 2>fan base that ownership and management since it has been

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<v Speaker 2>eight years since they've been to the World Series. That

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<v Speaker 2>may not seem like a lifetime for a team that

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<v Speaker 2>once weathered an eighty six year old drought. But eight

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<v Speaker 2>years is a long time when you won four in

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<v Speaker 2>the span of fourteen seasons. And more than that, this

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<v Speaker 2>team has won one playoff series since it last won

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<v Speaker 2>its last title in twenty eighteen, so there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of bloomer busts. They either make the playoffs or

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<v Speaker 2>finish fourth or fifth in their division. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>they looked at this and said, you know what, with

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<v Speaker 2>some tweaking here, we can be the best team in

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<v Speaker 2>the American League. And they sort of cast aside that

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<v Speaker 2>idea of sustainability of trying to play meaningful baseball every

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<v Speaker 2>September and decided to go all In twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 5>When Craig Breslow spoke to the media specifically about Adlie

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<v Speaker 5>Rushman's injury, were you looking for us for I mean

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<v Speaker 5>for Red Sox fans. Do you think Red Sox fans

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<v Speaker 5>are looking for more of a definitive like, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be fine, like Craig Breslo said, I talked to

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<v Speaker 5>him and it seems to be progressing. Like did that

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<v Speaker 5>seem like enough of a vote of confidence or Red

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<v Speaker 5>Sox fans pretty worried about this injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're worried, Eric, but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was a case of Craig Breslow understanding that the team

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<v Speaker 2>has been criticized for either misdiagnosing an injury or being

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<v Speaker 2>overly optimistic about about timetables for return. When Garrett Crochet

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<v Speaker 2>went on the IL back at the end of April,

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<v Speaker 2>the stance was well, he may miss a turn, but

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be back soon, and the same with Rome and Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>Before he went on the IL, it was well, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's even gonna go on, and if

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<v Speaker 2>he does, he'll be ready as soon as the stint

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<v Speaker 2>is up. Those guys haven't played yet, they're not particularly

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<v Speaker 2>close to playing, and we're now four months later, so

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<v Speaker 2>they are very much in the crosshairs here in New

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<v Speaker 2>England for either providing misleading information or information that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been accurate. So I think they're out of the timetable business.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you listen to that Zoom call and see

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<v Speaker 2>breslo answering that question, he sort of chuckles about it,

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<v Speaker 2>which to me was a tell like, oh no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going down this road again, Sean.

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<v Speaker 4>But isn't this what the teams do now? The Yankees

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<v Speaker 4>are doing the same thing with Judge. Oh, he had

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<v Speaker 4>imaging Stanton always close but he can't run yet, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't this kind of what teams do now? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess they close for two years now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so AJ And I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 2>see the logic in it, because ultimately you have to

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<v Speaker 2>answer for it. If you get your fan base all

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<v Speaker 2>excited that an injury is minor and that a return

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<v Speaker 2>is imminent, and four months later one of them in

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<v Speaker 2>this case Roman Anthony is still an extended spring and

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<v Speaker 2>the other just through for the first time in weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and weeks on yesterday, then you get exposed. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that they deliberately tried to mislead who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what the motivation is, the fact is they have been

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<v Speaker 2>wildly off base in trying to guess when their players

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<v Speaker 2>are going to rejoin them, and I think they've decided,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're out of this game. You can't win.

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<v Speaker 2>You either get criticized or people think that you're lying

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<v Speaker 2>or hiding things. And so there's no real benefit for

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<v Speaker 2>them for taking a swing at.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that they traded Marcela Meyer is that a

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<v Speaker 5>fault of the development how he was used once he

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<v Speaker 5>made to the big leagues, or just a prime case

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<v Speaker 5>of Eric Miller can really sling the rock and he

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<v Speaker 5>needed somebody to throw well in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they needed a lefty in that bullpen Eric, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in the late innings. They've got a good back end,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly with Chapman and Whitlock and a guy like Tyrone

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<v Speaker 2>Guerrero who's really emerged as a late inning force with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of swing and miss to his game, but

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have that power lefty to match up in

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<v Speaker 2>October should they get there, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>a priority on trade deadline day. Now, the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they gave up Marcelo Meyer is in itself somewhat revealing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's indicative of the fact that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was once the fourth overall pick and was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a Corey Seeger type player. That is, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who a left handed hitting shortstop with a big frame

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<v Speaker 2>who could slug and be an all around all star.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't work out. Obviously. Part of that is Meyer

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't stay on the field in each of his last

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<v Speaker 2>four pro seasons, not just the two that were spent

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<v Speaker 2>in the big leagues. The last four seasons in the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox organization, his year ended prematurely because of injury.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a shoulder, there was a lumbar, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a wrist, and this was a forearm this year. So

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<v Speaker 2>that certainly curtailed his development. Even those two or three

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<v Speaker 2>years in the minor leagues where he was injured, he

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<v Speaker 2>lost a lot of development time. And then when he

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<v Speaker 2>got opportunities as he did last year when Bregman got

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<v Speaker 2>hurt and they plugged him in at third base, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't perform. Now, obviously that's not terribly rare for even

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<v Speaker 2>the best prospects to come up and struggle and not

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<v Speaker 2>succeed right away. But I think you add all the

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<v Speaker 2>things in the inability to stay healthy, the not performing

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<v Speaker 2>when he had opportunities, and a very crowded middle infield situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Here I should add story under contract for one more year.

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Arius a top five prospect shortstop now at Triple

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<v Speaker 2>A Wooster. You know they've got all kinds of options there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that Marcelo Meyer went from this great,

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<v Speaker 2>can't miss prospect to kind of just a guy here

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<v Speaker 2>that they could afford to give up for a reliever.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean. You mentioned the injuries. Is this a development thing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 4>Because again, Costas was supposed to be can't miss, Meyer

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to be cant miss Roman. Anthony has been

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<v Speaker 4>missed basically the entire year. I mean, we can go

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<v Speaker 4>Christian Campbell. I know he's not hurt, but he's in

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<v Speaker 4>Triple A.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>There's been a lot of these guys that we hear

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<v Speaker 4>about Red Sox, Red Sox, Red Sox. Here comes the

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<v Speaker 4>next wave of talent. They either get injured or they

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<v Speaker 4>don't pan out. Is this a development thing or is

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<v Speaker 4>this just bad luck?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it is bad luck. Aj

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<v Speaker 2>You know that some guys have have flopped, and Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect example of that, a guy that got

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big contract extension just a few days into

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<v Speaker 2>his rookie season and now is kind of mired at

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<v Speaker 2>Triple A with no spot on the big league roster

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<v Speaker 2>for him and a long contractual commitment. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this is bad luck. You know, Casas blew out

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<v Speaker 2>a knee running to first base and then has had

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<v Speaker 2>several setbacks last year. Anthony had the oblique in August

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<v Speaker 2>that kept him out the rest of the year. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys know, that's an injury that lingers and can't be

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<v Speaker 2>hurried back from. Meyer had the litany of injuries that

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<v Speaker 2>I went through. The odd thing is is that the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox have gone from an organization that seemingly always

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<v Speaker 2>has good prospect position players coming into their system and

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<v Speaker 2>one that couldn't produce pitching to the exact opposite. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at the staff now and you see Jake Bennett

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<v Speaker 2>not someone they fully developed. Obviously they traded for him

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<v Speaker 2>in this past winter, but guys like Peyton, Toley and

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<v Speaker 2>Connolly Early who they traded to get Curtis Mead. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, they're flushed with young pitching, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of their position player prospects have either for health

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<v Speaker 2>or performance or both have stalled out on them.

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<v Speaker 3>M interesting. Interesting, I don't know, it's interesting. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an interesting argument, Sean, where certain organizations seems to

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<v Speaker 4>have better luck with pitching, hitting, injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>Not right, it's it's just it's always interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The Brewers developed pitching, the Guardians developed pitching, the Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>keep pitching healthy.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, there's identities.

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<v Speaker 5>The White Sox.

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<v Speaker 6>You used to be part of a White Sox team

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<v Speaker 6>that kept pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Healthy, kept everyone healthy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, there's a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know, We'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait this This this Retchmen trade to me

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<v Speaker 4>is fascinating just from now because Adly needs to get

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<v Speaker 4>back obviously, But then three four years from now, if

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't sign back with the Red Sox, then see

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<v Speaker 4>what Aaronson becomes, and see what Witherspoon becomes. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Narvaia's was just the Orioles had a catcher since

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<v Speaker 4>they got rid of all their catchers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's not unlike the Crochet deal in

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<v Speaker 2>that deal got a lot better, even though he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>contributed much this year, had kind of a lousy first

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<v Speaker 2>month of the season, and then has been out with

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder issue since. But I think everyone agrees that

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett Crochet is a frontline, top of the rotation starter

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<v Speaker 2>who they now have under control. But that deal got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better when they extended him, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the same probably applies to Rutchman. The difference is that

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<v Speaker 2>even though Crochet had Tommy John early in his career

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<v Speaker 2>with the White Sox, that Rutchman's career has been much

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<v Speaker 2>more stalled by injury and whether the Red Sox want

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<v Speaker 2>to make that long term commitment to a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty banged up in his mid to late twenties

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<v Speaker 2>and is going to be twenty nine if you extend

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<v Speaker 2>him past next year.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Sean, last one for me is Jaron Duran.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know I had a bomb last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've all seen him be one of the better players

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<v Speaker 1>in the game a couple of years ago. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>been the same since he's been around trade rumors for

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<v Speaker 1>a while and he seems to be kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of trashing himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's a very very vocal, out there, straightforward

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<v Speaker 1>guy about how he's feeling, and he's not afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>say I stink right now or for the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had him on our show. So where's he at more?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say mentally even than physically production wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as recently as the last road trip, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you guys saw the video of him being frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>that Wilson Contreras didn't tag up and score on that.

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<v Speaker 2>After that game, he was really kind of ripping himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a guy who's emotional, who talks a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>what he's feeling, and he's frustrated by the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he's hitting two ZHO five and we're into August. The

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<v Speaker 2>odd thing is is that there's a lot more slug

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<v Speaker 2>to his game this year. You know, he's got fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or sixteen homers now. He's he had been a obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a speed and athletic guy in his first few years,

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<v Speaker 2>with the ability to hit doubles and occasionally hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ball out of the yard. This year it's been less

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<v Speaker 2>of that profile and more of the swing and miss

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<v Speaker 2>with some extra base production. So Chad Tracy, the interim manager,

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about his struggles a week ago, and he

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out that Duran is a completely different player with

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<v Speaker 2>runners in scoring position. He's sitting close to three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>in those situations, and the slug is there in ways

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<v Speaker 2>in which it hasn't been, So it's like he's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of traded in one part of his game for the other.

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<v Speaker 2>He's frustrated that he's strike that he's been striking out

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<v Speaker 2>as much, that he hasn't made more regular contact and

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<v Speaker 2>contributed more offensively. But he's played a very good left

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<v Speaker 2>field and he's contributed with the extra base production, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a trade off. But I think Duran

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of guy who beats up and beats

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<v Speaker 2>himself up lot and is always going to find fault

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<v Speaker 2>and be frustrated over something about his game.

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<v Speaker 1>students and counting. Yeah, I mean, I like the honest

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<v Speaker 1>I know that sometimes, you know, you guys can say

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<v Speaker 1>if the teammates calling you out, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be too pleased, but.

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<v Speaker 6>Figure it out after the game.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean he I think that was just more

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<v Speaker 3>of a.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, just it got caught on camera, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was I think he was more frustrated himself.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like like he was more like, gosh, I

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<v Speaker 4>got to get that guy in. And I know he

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<v Speaker 4>outwardly showed it towards Contreras, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's it's a weird. It's a weird dynamic.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're still winning, so who cares what he's doing

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, we all know that what we're winning,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that that's absolutely true that if this

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<v Speaker 2>had happened maybe five six weeks ago, when these guys

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, ten twelve, fourteen games under five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>then it becomes more of a story because they are hot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they went three and one in Sacramento and just

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<v Speaker 2>swept the Dodgers and came home and beat up on

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox. That it's a slip. Sorry, it's a blip.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not become, you know, much of a story,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gone after twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 5>They used to not even be a story. They beat

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<v Speaker 5>the White Sox. Who cares but one story? That is

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<v Speaker 5>what's the difference in the vibe? What'sn't the difference in

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<v Speaker 5>the vibe between Cora as the manager and Chad Tracy

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<v Speaker 5>as a manager.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I can answer that, Eric. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a lot of these guys were familiar with Chad

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy because he had been the Triple A manager for

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<v Speaker 2>the previous four and a half seasons. And whether there

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<v Speaker 2>were homegrown guys coming up through the system like Meyer,

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<v Speaker 2>like Anthony, like Rafaela, like a bray, you, they had

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<v Speaker 2>all had some experience with him, or guys that went

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<v Speaker 2>on rehabit rehab assignments after injuries and went for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five days, ten days and Worcester. So he was not

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that got plopped in and had to introduce himself

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<v Speaker 2>to all twenty six guys, So I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>a familiarity and a comfort factor with him right from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, and he's been a guy that has He's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a player manager, that's his profile. He's reluctant to

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<v Speaker 2>be critical at all in the media of any player.

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<v Speaker 2>He defends players. You know, there was a when they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bottomed out early in the year and lost

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<v Speaker 2>two out of three in Denver to the Rockies. Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>sent every guy on the team a text message that said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. We're down now, but I know we're

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, and when we're when we do come back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be with you. Then I think he

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<v Speaker 2>really tapped into the personal side with them and let

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<v Speaker 2>them know that he had their back, that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to throw him under the bus because the team

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't performing well. And I think over time they got

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<v Speaker 2>a little healthier, they started getting more contributions from other guys,

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<v Speaker 2>including a lot of depth and four A guys that

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<v Speaker 2>weren't necessarily part of the picture at the start of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And you guys know how it is when

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<v Speaker 2>a team starts to get on a roll and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have much better of a role than you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty two and eight over the last forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean awesome insight. Thank you for joining us. Fun deadline

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<v Speaker 3>Last albunthould be fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it should be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened last night to the Trade Deadline episode with

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<v Speaker 1>her and Darren.

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<v Speaker 6>It was awesome Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see you again, and thank you for giving

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<v Speaker 1>FT some love on that episode, being like cool, real,

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<v Speaker 1>recognize real, everybody thinks. Aj Preller again had a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice trade deadline. So let's dive deeper into it. Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>Miz Robbie Ray how surprised, were you and Padres fans

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<v Speaker 1>When some say Aj Preller doesn't have any prospects left.

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<v Speaker 6>Apparently he did.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Aj Preller loves hearing that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the surprise that I had and a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of Padres fans had, they were able to add two

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<v Speaker 9>starting pictures and not have to give up any other

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<v Speaker 9>guys in their bullpen.

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<v Speaker 8>Mason Miller was never going to be traded.

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<v Speaker 9>That they were able to go in old Adrian morrohone

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<v Speaker 9>who can be a agent after the season. They can

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<v Speaker 9>keep Jeremiah Estrada, Wandy Peralta, Yuki Matsuey. I think I

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<v Speaker 9>think we are pleasantly surprised that the Padres were able

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<v Speaker 9>to go ahead and give up prospects that are not

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<v Speaker 9>going to impact We're not expected to impact the.

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<v Speaker 8>Padres in the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 9>So listen on that last home stand, which we said,

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<v Speaker 9>with a crucial homestand right six games versus the Rockies

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<v Speaker 9>and the Giants, the Padres got a total of ten

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<v Speaker 9>point one innings from their starting pitching, okay for Michael

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<v Speaker 9>King and Walker Bueler. The rest of it was made

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<v Speaker 9>out of bullpen games. You guys know, not sustainable if

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<v Speaker 9>you want to be a legitimate playoff team. So the

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<v Speaker 9>Padres adding Robbie Ray and Casey Mize and not giving

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<v Speaker 9>up their top prospect and Ethan Sallas a very pleasant surprise,

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<v Speaker 9>probably different the pitch.

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<v Speaker 4>He did do well, But yes, they need starting pitching.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll just have one question, what changed with the hitting?

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden they can hit. The Padres can hit.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it because they traded for starting pitching?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, what changed with the hitting? We'll go back to

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<v Speaker 4>the starting pitching. But I got to talk about the hitting.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a great question because I think aj Proler made

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<v Speaker 9>it clear. Here are the pictures. It lies to our guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Manny Machado has to hit. Jackson Merrill has to hit.

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<v Speaker 9>Erniera Tatis has to keep doing what he's doing and

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<v Speaker 9>be more consistent.

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<v Speaker 8>And hopefully some more slug.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's been their patients at the patients of

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<v Speaker 9>the plate with the strike zone. So I know there's

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of heat on this offense, on the hitting coach,

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<v Speaker 9>on their approach, but they figured something out and they

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<v Speaker 9>went from the worst offense in baseball gosh in June,

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<v Speaker 9>to really a top five offense. More of what we expected.

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<v Speaker 9>And they've also got some health too. Jake Pruinworth, Jake

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<v Speaker 9>Quinnworth had a concussion that he played with. It was

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<v Speaker 9>for a couple of weeks, then he goes on the

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<v Speaker 9>injured list. He's been a lot better since he returned.

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<v Speaker 9>Freddy for Mean got hit in the head quite a

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<v Speaker 9>few times as well. I think he had at least

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<v Speaker 9>two stints on the concussion list. Since he came back,

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 9>he's been a lot better. The padres are healthier right now,

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 9>but the most importantly approach at the plate, more patience

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 9>has really helped this offense right.

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 5>I need you to break down what you're seeing from

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Manny Machado in the last What is it? What did

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 5>you say? How many games? I forget how many games

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 5>Manny's success? Does that make him a better leader in

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 5>the clubhouse? Was he not as engaging or the team

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 5>not as engaged with him when he wasn't doing well?

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Because he's never really struggled in his career for a

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<v Speaker 5>long extended period.

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 8>Now it was it was puzzling for him.

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.919
<v Speaker 9>He's never he has never dealt with anything like this

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:36.160
<v Speaker 9>in his entire career. Eric, when you mentioned his I'm sorry,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 9>what is engaging. I don't think the leadership is ever

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 9>The leadership thing with Manny has not been an issue.

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 9>I know he's gotten a wrap around baseball for you know,

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 9>the hustle or whatnot. But the work ethic was never

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 9>in question. He's usually one of the first guys out there.

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 9>He's always getting his work in and he had no

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 9>answers to as to why he was struggling. It wasn't

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 9>it wasn't a healthy I mean, he deals with certain

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 9>things that we find.

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 8>Out about often after the season, but Manny Machado said

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 8>a lot of it was luck. He got unlucky.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.959
<v Speaker 9>I don't know what changed with his approach now. He

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 9>did speak early about working in the off season with

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 9>a different hitting coach and it took him a while

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 9>to go ahead and get his stance back and adapt.

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 9>But he has been a much different hitter since June,

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 9>and it's it's it's helped carry this Padres offense. The

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 9>Padres we're gonna go, as Craig Stamman said, the Padres

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 9>were only going to go as far as Manny takes them,

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 9>and he has been a difference maker.

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 8>Same thing for Jackson Merrill.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 9>As of late who dealt with the first real struggles

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 9>of his entire.

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 8>Of his career.

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 4>All right, Marty, now we can go to the pictures.

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 4>We got my favorite part of the hitting out of

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 4>the way, so now let's go to the pictures. Robbie Ray, right,

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 4>Casey Miz both yes, hey, SuDS, right, you had him

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 4>to Michael King, you had him to this bullpen. Is

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 4>this enough for the Padres to make a run to

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 4>the World Series? You know, play the Dodgers. They first

0:25:58.680 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 4>they have to get there, but then they got to

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 4>play the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Braves, the Brewers, the Cubs.

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Is this starting rotation and bullpen enough with this offense?

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 8>The bullpen?

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 9>Yes? Could that's your biggest check mark right now? You

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 9>knew the Padres biggest strength going in was going to.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 8>Be their bullpen, especially the back end with Morhone and Miller.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 9>And yes they had they were pitching chaos is what

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 9>Craig Stamon called it, because they were going with you know,

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 9>bullpen games started by JP Sears or Waldy Peralta. But

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 9>right now, when you can add Casey Miz, Robbie Ray

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.239
<v Speaker 9>and Robbie Ray himself has more quality starts than the

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 9>entire Padres team. That's a huge difference. It also takes

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 9>some pressure off of Michael King. I know j probably

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 9>would have liked to have added one more lefty bat right.

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 9>You need to show that up about out in left field,

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 9>especially with Ramon Laurento out for the season.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 8>The Padres are hopeful that they will.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 9>Get Miguil and Duharr back, probably late late in August,

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 9>maybe early September. Also Samad Taylor, who is out with

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 9>the Obliker injury, they're expecting him back in a couple

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 9>of weeks too. So they're hoping right now that what

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 9>you're seeing from Manny Machado and Jackson Merrill and for

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 9>no tatist is sustainable, that this offense is who we

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 9>think or expected them to be, And you take some

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 9>pressure off of Michael King, King, Buehler, Robbie Ray, Casey

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 9>miz that's a legitimated rotation. I think Randy Vasquez game

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 9>a bit of a spark yesterday with six innings.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 8>It was the.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 9>Padres only their third quality start since June third, and

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 9>the first by a picture not named Michael King or

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 9>Walker Bueller. So you add those to those guys who

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 9>can eat up some innings. That's a huge boose for

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 9>the Padres. This series with the Diamondbacks is massive. The

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 9>Padres will see them again the final three games of

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 9>the regular season.

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 8>I think right now they're feeling pretty pretty good. They

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 8>added not just one picture, they added too. That's a

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 8>huge difference.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 9>And we'll see what happens with with Paveta and Musgrove.

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 9>If one of those guys can come back or both,

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 9>that's an added bonus for the Padres. But I don't

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 9>know that if you're a j prowler that you went

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 9>into the deadline expecting either of them to come back

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 9>or be impactful that if they can get one of

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 9>those guys back, that to me is just an added

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 9>bonus for this for this team.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, before we get to the whole Paveda and Muscrove thing,

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 5>like you just said, well, who gets pushed out? Who

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 5>gets pushed out when one of those guys, I think

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 5>one of those guys comes back and is a starter

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 5>for this team. Who gets pushed out? Is it Walter Buehler,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 5>Is it Randy Vasquez?

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 8>That's a that's a great question.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 9>I know the Padres would like to go ahead and

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 9>give Walker Bueller more oft more time off in between

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 9>starts at thirty two years old and a couple of

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 9>years removed from his Tommy John, We're gonna see a

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 9>lot of I mean, it's a good problem to have, right,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 9>We're gonna see what happens when the Padres activate Robbie

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 9>Ray today. I don't know, doubt that her mom Markus

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 9>did himself any favors yesterday. Griffin Canning has struggled as well.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 8>But it's a good problem for the Padres to have.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 9>Maybe they can piggyback a couple of guys and do

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 9>that rather than the pitching chaos they've had to depend

0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 9>on to get to this point.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Marty, what about Nick Pavetta. We saw him yesterday through

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 4>too too. He walked straight to the dugout it's hurt,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 4>and then he went. But then he went through twenty

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 4>pitches afterwards. So was he like I have never seen

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 4>this in my life where a guy just says, Nope,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 4>forget the trainer, I'm just leaving the field on my own.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good will.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 9>He felt something in his elbow and it was the

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 9>first time that he had felt something as he makes

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 9>his rehab. He pitched in a bullpen session at Petco Park,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 9>as did Joe Musgrove over the weekend. He did not

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 9>feel anything, but yesterday he felt something in his elbow.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 9>He took himself out, he went into the into the

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 9>clubhouse and with a trainer, he sat on the bench.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 8>He started to feel a little bit better.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 9>So then he goes into a clothed into a cage

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 9>and he threw and he felt better. So I thought

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 9>Joe Musgrove had a good point when I asked him

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 9>about what he's seen from from Pavetta as they rehad back,

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 9>and he said, I think for him it's confidence in

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 9>trusting his arm. There's been days where it's been hard

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 9>for him to re let the ball go and be

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 9>confident going through his motion. So he thinks of maybe

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 9>there's a mental block, and if I ripped this, am

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 9>I going to do something myself back. As you guys know,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 9>Nick Pavetta has a very important date coming up on

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 9>August twenty second. If he does not return by that point,

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 9>the Padres can turn his player option, which amounts to

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 9>thirty two million dollars, into a team option.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know if Paveta is feeling just all.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 9>That pressure of that date and the uncertainty of his

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 9>future and what could happen. But he felt something yesterday.

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 9>The Padres are waiting to see how he feels today,

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 9>how he came out of his additional throwing session before

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 9>they make any any additional moves or release any information.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 9>But how he came out of that second session will

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 9>say a lot. The good news for the Padres they

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 9>don't have to race him back. The same thing for

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.719
<v Speaker 9>Joe Muskrove because they have the two additional arms. But

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 9>it's not good not good news for Nick Pavetta, who

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 9>is working to come back and likely was on track

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 9>to return of the Padres before August twenty second, if

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 9>he didn't have any setback. So we're going to see

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 9>if yesterday was a physical setback. But as one member

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 9>of the Padre said, the fact that he felt something

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 9>the very first time he threw off a mound in

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 9>an actual game does not necessarily bode bode well for Nick.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 9>So fingers crossed for him, But I have never seen

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 9>that before. The fans who were around it thought that

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 9>he decided it was a strike, was strike three, and

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 9>he just walked off. But the plan for Bavetta yesterday

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 9>was for him to go two to three innings, as

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 9>did Musgrove. Musgrove going but two and two thirds and

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 9>thirty nine pitches, So we'll see my favorite lot of.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 5>We watched him. If you watched the second baseman, third

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 5>basement or second bass and first basement, base runner, first

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 5>base coats, they're all just like what so, yeah, nobody's nobody's.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 9>No one new no fans. Fans didn't know. The umpire

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 9>seemed confused. The guys in the dugout like what's what's

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 9>going on? Like waving him back, like hey, that's that's

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 9>just two outs.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 3>The uh.

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 5>The Padres fans have to be optimistic about the future

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 5>because clearly a J Pereller was allowed to spend some money,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 5>which everybody knows that the new ownership is coming on board,

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 5>and you would think they wouldn't like not spend money. Well,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 5>you just don't know. He was allowed to spend money.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Is that Is that true? Or is that positive for

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 5>the future?

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 9>Eric took on I think eight million dollars by adding

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 9>those two players, which is I think, which is great

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 9>because we didn't know that's been the big question mark,

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 9>and that was the question that was asked of you know,

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 9>of Preller when he spoke to the media before the

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 9>trade deadline, because he doesn't necessarily have the conversations with

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 9>the new ownership group Jose Feliciano and Kwanza Jones.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 8>And by the way, they are expected to go ahead and.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 9>Take the reins the official rains from the Seiler family

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 9>in the next I think next week and a half

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 9>or so. But yes, Preller made it clear to us

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 9>in his trade deadline zoom that he was able. He

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 9>has been in talk with the ownership group and that

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 9>allowed him to go ahead and take on a little

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 9>bit of money, a little bit of money at this deadline.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 9>So yes, the fact that he was able to do

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 9>this bodes well. Hopefully we'll find we will find out

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 9>a lot more about the ownership group when they speak

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 9>to us in a couple of weeks.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 8>But I think it's a good sign.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 9>And listen, you guys see it man, they're packing it

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 9>in at Peco Park. I would be shocked if every

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 9>single game the rest of the season is not a sellout,

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 9>which is a complete different scene from what we see

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 9>the team they're chasing in the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Padres

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 9>are on track to draw more than three million fans

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 9>for the fourth consecutive year. If you're that ownership group,

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 9>and this is what you paid the record three point

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 9>nine billion dollar dollars four for this franchise, you want

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 9>the sellouts, you want the playoffs. And the fact that

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 9>they agent Peller add some money the deadline is a

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 9>very good sign. I think for Padres fans they should

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 9>be excited because they went for it.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 8>AJ Pler went for it, That's what he said.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 9>I saw you, I saw I love your criticism on

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 9>the Brewerism then not going after school. Well, when they

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 9>had this chance, the Padres a J. Peler, they know

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 9>they have a very particular window with this group of players.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 9>And so when you're going for it, when your goal

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 9>is we have a chance to the playoffs, man, we're

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 9>going to go for it. It's a good sign that

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 9>they spend some money.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 6>Someone's like, nope, you're good.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, perfect timing actually, and I love literally all fifteen

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>minutes of this. So Wright, you go answer the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them next time. They got to know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>live on the show.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, last week, okay, and I have one more

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<v Speaker 9>point for aj Prazinski, because the last time you were

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<v Speaker 9>on the show, you're asking me what does it take

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<v Speaker 9>to go ahead and get a.

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<v Speaker 8>Player on this show. The answer was very, very obvious.

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<v Speaker 9>You call your buddy the Pope and you say listen,

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<v Speaker 9>you have him put a request into the padres say listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I would they would still say they're focusing on playing.

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<v Speaker 4>They would still say that, no, no, and that only

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<v Speaker 4>works Marty for the White Sox, because he's a White Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>That only works with that.

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<v Speaker 1>They would say, Pope doesn't like us, it's ever focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on just because we're the Friars.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that we we believe that, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>We pad guys on.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had yeah, that show, listen, Marty, we we like

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's there's a bunch that we've had on.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had Chrome Zone on.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had.

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<v Speaker 8>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>Mason Miller comes on all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Mason Miller's awesome.

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<v Speaker 8>He's great. Mason Gillers Miller not traded. What a bonus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I can't wait, I can't wait. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be fun, especially since Fox has the National League this year. Marty,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean, I probably but I would love to

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<v Speaker 4>do the Padres Dodgers series again like I got to

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<v Speaker 4>do four years ago with the Goose and the whole

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 4>thing that landed is a great rivalry.

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<v Speaker 6>And so great a lot of teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've been listening to every FT Network show and

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<v Speaker 1>their trade deadline shows, Marty and you know some fans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sending in questions and hosts answering there, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't we get Mason Miller.

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<v Speaker 6>Mason Miller wasn't available at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Did listen probably, but by the time we got to

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<v Speaker 1>the deadline and they were playing well and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's going to move him.

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<v Speaker 6>So for fans that he wasn't going anywhere, right, he

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<v Speaker 6>was not.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Miller kind of knew he's because.

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<v Speaker 9>When we were asking him about the trade allin speculation,

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<v Speaker 9>he would say, I see what's out there. I see

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<v Speaker 9>it on the internet. I'm hearing it on foul Territory.

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<v Speaker 9>But based on his conversation with management, he had a

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<v Speaker 9>pretty good indication he wasn't going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, aj.

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<v Speaker 9>Preller has coveted three players badly that I know of

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<v Speaker 9>in his tenure as Padre's GM. When was Shohio Tani

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<v Speaker 9>didn't get him. The other was Juan Soto got him,

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<v Speaker 9>and the other was Mason Miller and he gave up

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<v Speaker 9>his favorite son, devrees to get him. Mailer was not

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<v Speaker 9>going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait one more, I think there's one more to add

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<v Speaker 1>to the four. That wasn't he obsessed with Trey Turner

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<v Speaker 1>because he gave him away and then he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get him back and all that.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, yeah, he did try to get Trey Turner back.

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<v Speaker 9>That was That was the first that was I think,

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<v Speaker 9>like Prolers first thing when he when he became GM,

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<v Speaker 9>was to get rid of every single player that was

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<v Speaker 9>drafted by Josh Burns. And so I remember how strange

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<v Speaker 9>it was seeing trade Turner. He couldn't get rid of

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<v Speaker 9>him yet he's there on spring training knowing he's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be traded.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so awkward.

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<v Speaker 9>But yes, he tried to get him back and did

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<v Speaker 9>and that didn't work right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes, he pursues the top talent and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a good track record, and he's he's a fun GM

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<v Speaker 1>to follow. Fans cannot complain about the activity that he creates.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, go for it, Marty, do your thing. We've

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<v Speaker 1>kept you long enough have fun kidd us. Yeah, perfect time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do your thing, Marty, thank you, love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's summertime. Kids are, kids are everywhere, They're home exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Marty's awesome. Check her out with Darren Smith. Check him

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<v Speaker 1>out on Friar Territory.

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<v Speaker 6>Looking on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>An episode that had Kirchin, they're great, they're trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>episode was really what it did.

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<v Speaker 6>Give it a listen.