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Speaker 3: To talk once again now to Bjord Lomborg, a best

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Speaker 3: Copenhagen Consensus, a visiting fellow also at Stanford University's Hoover Institution,

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Speaker 3: and he has been named as one of the world's

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Speaker 3: one of the most influential people by Time magazine. We've

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Speaker 3: had him on the show number of times in the

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Speaker 3: past to talk about climate change and the overreaction to

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Speaker 3: it and the idea that we don't want to kill

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Speaker 3: the world's economies with some of these California type ideas

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Speaker 3: to battle rising temperatures. He's got a new book called

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Speaker 3: Best Things First, and we're going to bring him on

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Speaker 3: the show to talk about the book and what's about Joran.

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Speaker 2: How are you hi?

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Speaker 4: I'm good. How you guys? Oh?

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Speaker 1: What a great connection to Where are you right now?

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Speaker 1: Are you in Copenhagen. No, I'm in DC.

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Speaker 2: You're in marching place, all right, I'm in Washington.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into your book, what percentage of

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Speaker 1: this climate change crusade is people getting in on a

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Speaker 1: racket because there's billions of dollars floating around? And what

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Speaker 1: percentage of this has it just turned into a weird

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Speaker 4: Oh that is so hard to answer. Look, there's some

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Speaker 4: to both of these things. So I debate with a

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Speaker 4: lot of these climate guys.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is that most of these people are actually, honestly,

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Speaker 1: really really worried people, and.

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Speaker 4: I get that. Yeah. Look, if you listen to sort

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Speaker 4: of mainstream news, if you look at the TV, it

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Speaker 4: tells you one catastrophe after another. You get the sense

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Speaker 4: that the world is coming to an end. And it's

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Speaker 4: not hard to get the sense, oh my god, we

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Speaker 4: just got to do everything in our power to fix

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Speaker 4: this climate thing. So I think most of it is

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Speaker 4: well done. But of course, look, there's also a lot

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Speaker 4: of money to be made. Last year, we spent one

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Speaker 4: point one trillion dollars on climate efforts, so very clearly

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of money to be made, and there's

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Speaker 4: also a lot of people who like to believe that

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Speaker 4: they have you know, that they're doing something that's incredibly

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Speaker 4: important that gives meaning to their lives. So in that sense,

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Speaker 4: there is some religion there as well.

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Speaker 1: Your book is about best things first, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: So look, we've talked, as you also mentioned, we've talked

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Speaker 4: a lot about how we spend money really badly. So

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Speaker 4: we spend trillions of dollars in for instance, climate and

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Speaker 4: we get fairly a little good out of it. What

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Speaker 4: I wanted to do was to look at the other

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Speaker 4: end of this conversation, what are actually some of the

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Speaker 4: very best things to do in the world. Because remember,

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Speaker 4: we live really really nice lives, rich world, but you know,

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Speaker 4: six billion people or more live pretty bad lives. You know,

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Speaker 4: their kids die from easily carible infectious diseases, they don't

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Speaker 4: have enough food, they have terrible education. There are lots

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Speaker 4: and lots of problems in this world. We can't fix

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Speaker 4: all of them, but some of them, it turns out,

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Speaker 4: we can fix it very very low cost. So what

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Speaker 4: I'm really trying to talk about in this new book

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Speaker 4: is to say, instead of talking about how we waste

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Speaker 4: as we do on some things. This is about what

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Speaker 4: we really should be spending just a tiny bit of money,

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Speaker 4: but that would be incredibly good for the world. So

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Speaker 4: that's the best things first. This is simply the things

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Speaker 4: that the world should be doing. Well. Give examples. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so there are twelve of thems. I would love to give

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Speaker 4: Turns out that for about four or five billion dollars

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about redirecting some of the money that

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not actually making it that explicit. I'm more saying, look,

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Speaker 4: simply saying, let's spend it first where it would do

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Speaker 1: And we don't do that because why the moms and

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Speaker 2: Exactly, it's not as big a racket is do you.

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Speaker 4: Ever have you have you have you ever seen that

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Speaker 4: You know, they're so excited about the stuff and all

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Speaker 4: incredibly useful. So again you could argue that what I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Gates is trying to do some of this, isn't.

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Speaker 4: He he is? But remember you also get sort of

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Speaker 4: it is spent on stuff that feels good rather than

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Speaker 4: you collect methane from their garbage dumps. So that's not

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Speaker 4: a bad thing, but it's certainly not the best thing

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Speaker 4: you could have done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in California. As you know, we are a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, you know.

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Speaker 1: And there's a story out today on how difficult it

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Speaker 1: all this and it's like, man, we are hurtling towards

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work in this timeframe.

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Speaker 4: And so it's probably not going to happen come twenty

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Speaker 4: Look there's nothing wrong with electric cars. They're good for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, getting through the day, I know, I mean just

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Speaker 4: So, you know, for instance, education is another thing. Everywhere

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Speaker 4: a terribly large problem. Look, we got almost all kids

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Speaker 4: it happening, But that's again because it's not politically very

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Speaker 3: Yes, Bjorn Lomborg besting talking to him. Yes, he's also

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about like some of the world's

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Speaker 3: And the implication behind the message was I might tell

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Speaker 2: But it's the affair, I think. I think that's.

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Speaker 1: Where this story ultimately is going to lead. And these

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Speaker 1: He wanted Gates's money for these of charities or charities whatever,

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Speaker 3: Well, because one of the goods on these guys, What else.

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Speaker 2: Would you have them for?

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Speaker 1: Why would you tape all your acquaintances having sex with

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Speaker 2: And we got more coming up. Johnny Ken k I

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, the Diane Feinstein watch continues, of course,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: What's finished the thought. Because Pelosi supports Schiff. She wants

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's already the senator. I click, Barberly, they want they're.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. We had that seat. We want

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, I know Pelosi wants to help her

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Speaker 3: on a Senate position. These people are believe people in

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Speaker 3: politics are so important and control our lives. They determined

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Speaker 3: our lives and our faith.

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Speaker 1: If you're not, if you're not a mayor or a

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Speaker 1: governor or a president, it's kind of silly. Then you're

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Speaker 1: just another person arguing with a group of crazy people.

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Speaker 1: Because city councils, state legislators, Congress, it's just dozens or

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Speaker 1: Congress hundreds of people all yelling and backbiting and trying

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Speaker 1: to out maneuver each other. It's not a productive job.

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Speaker 1: At least you have some executive powers when you're governor

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Speaker 1: or president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the sense I mean, the last thing I.

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Speaker 1: Ever want to be is a senator and listen to

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Speaker 1: all these bloviating fools you every time there's a hearing, right,

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Speaker 1: so every week there seems to be one hearing that grabs.

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Speaker 1: Everybody makes a speech I know, and it's just nothing

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Speaker 1: but endless diary out of their mouths. It's a chance

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Speaker 1: for them to go brand stand in front of the cameras,

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Speaker 1: although it's usually just on c SPAN or something, I know,

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Speaker 1: to try to make their big point.

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Speaker 2: For the official record.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I campaign, I could say I said

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Speaker 2: that it's in the record. All right, we'll finish up

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Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Ken KFI A M six forty were live everywhere

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: Roun until four after four.

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Speaker 1: Anything you missed today, yuhs on Johnny kN on demand

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Speaker 1: on the iHeart app. Now we've posted after four o'clock, yes,

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Speaker 1: and you can listen to it all evening.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm riveted by the debt ceiling discussion. Holy mackerel.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, which there's more fake drama goes on.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it goes on. I remember what Trump

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Speaker 3: was president, went on like every six months. It's the

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Speaker 3: same thing at that limit.

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Speaker 2: It's just their theater.

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Speaker 3: They have reached an agreement for water that comes from

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Speaker 3: the Colorado River and apparently they are gonna be cuts

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Speaker 3: to a number of the Western states. California, Arizona, Nevada

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Speaker 3: will voluntarily cut their use of water by at least

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Speaker 3: three million acre feet by twenty twenty six, including a

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Speaker 3: million and a half next year. To give you an idea,

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Speaker 3: an acre foot is about the amount a typical family

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Speaker 3: of four uses in a year.

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Speaker 2: But when you scroll down.

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Speaker 3: And see the details of this, they basically think that

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Speaker 3: they can get the farmers to voluntarily conserve some of

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Speaker 3: their water usage to make up for the shortfall. And

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Speaker 3: of course the articles are all full of this is

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Speaker 3: climate change, This is climate change.

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Speaker 2: This is really this hysteria is metastasizing.

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Speaker 3: It actually turns out though the Colorado had a pretty

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Speaker 3: good snowfall, so as that begins to melt, they're going

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Speaker 3: to pick up some water there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, and supposedly there's an al ninio coming

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Speaker 1: for next year.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's not. Just believe the opposite. Now.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, this story took like a ricochet. The National Institutes

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Speaker 3: of Health has officially cut off the Wuhan Institute of

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Speaker 3: Virology from taxpayer funding. There was a story a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago that they were going to get more money,

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Speaker 3: but it looks like Wuan was actually on the list

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Speaker 3: as of late April, but has now disappeared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's hard to tell you no matter

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Speaker 3: what happened to give them anymore.

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Speaker 1: They know what happened funding money, they just don't want

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Speaker 1: to admit it. They know exactly what.

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Speaker 2: Happened for gain of function research.

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Speaker 1: I notice, specifically gain of function research was mentioned that

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Speaker 1: they're not going to give money to because they know

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Speaker 1: what happened. They were doing gain of function research and

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Speaker 1: somebody spilled a beaker and the virus got out, and

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Speaker 1: the first people sick were the lab workers. They and

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Speaker 1: this goes back to the fall of twenty nineteen. This

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Speaker 1: happened months before it became an American issue, and.

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Speaker 3: It is the logical path of this because they've never

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Speaker 3: really found this mysterious animal that infected everybody at that Muhan,

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Speaker 3: that farmer's market or live market.

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Speaker 1: That was an intentional diversion to get everybody off off

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Speaker 1: the scent right that the Chinese didn't want to take

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Speaker 1: the blame for it, so they covered it up. The

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Speaker 1: American the American government didn't want to blame the Chinese,

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Speaker 1: except for Trump. The media didn't want to blame the Chinese,

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Speaker 1: so they turned it into a hate crime to say

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Speaker 1: it came from China. They really turned it into a

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Speaker 1: hate crime. I've never seen such a massive propaganda attack

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Speaker 1: by the media over a simple fact.

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Speaker 2: That nobody really I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the investment was in insisting it

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Speaker 1: came from an animal rather than the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 1: Why was everyone in the tank to protect the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist Party?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it really curious?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make you wonder what's really going on because normally,

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Speaker 1: when when you had a viral outbreak of some kind,

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Speaker 1: they told you you know which country it came from,

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Speaker 1: like HIV came from people eating bush meat in Africa,

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Speaker 1: which I guess they what were they eating?

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Speaker 2: Some kind of monkey brains is something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ebola virus, they told us exactly how that

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Speaker 1: was getting spread around. But this one, all all the

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Speaker 1: traditions changed suddenly. You couldn't speak of the country, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't speak of that Wuhan Institute. And why was it?

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Speaker 1: Because we were funding it and Fauci was funding it.

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Speaker 1: That's why they quickly turned him into a saint beyond

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Speaker 1: a reproach. And they had this this weird ecal health

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Speaker 1: company that Fauci was funding in New York, and that

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Speaker 1: guy Peter Danzak was the leader of that eco health alliance.

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Speaker 1: He immediately put out an ad in all the big

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Speaker 1: newspapers with I don't know fifty or one hundred doctors

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Speaker 1: signing it, swearing that it was from an animal and

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Speaker 1: not from a broken lab experiment. So quickly, so assuredly,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it had all the hallmarks of propaganda. Why

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Speaker 1: is everybody shutting down the lab story so quickly, so insistently, Well,

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Speaker 1: none of them knew, None of them went to China.

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Speaker 1: None of them did an investigation, but everybody was absolutely

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Speaker 1: sure and they made it some kind of like racial

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Speaker 1: slur to accuse the right. Yeah boy, that yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what this was. And I realized that a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of Russian labs are also on the list. They just

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Speaker 3: got deleted to We were giving Russian labs money too.

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Speaker 3: That's real smart.

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Speaker 1: They ought to stop that gain to function research. But

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Speaker 1: we're doing it in this country too, at our American labs.

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Speaker 2: Bad news. Uh, Conway's here he no hey, no, he no, hey.

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Speaker 6: Isn't that fun to walk Boston Celtics to get the rass.

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Speaker 2: Kicked and the Lakers?

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Speaker 6: Well that that hurts a little, but it is fun

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Speaker 6: to watch the Celtics get wiped out.

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Speaker 2: Yea, they're both gonna come back.

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Speaker 6: And no wait, In one hundred and forty nine attempts

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Speaker 6: where a team was down zho and three, there are

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Speaker 6: one hundred and zero and one hundred and forty nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are apparently a few teams that got it

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Speaker 3: to seven games but lost the seventh game.

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Wow?

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Speaker 6: Nobody's ever done it? Not in basketball? Yeah, and hockey

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Speaker 6: they do it like three or four teams.

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Speaker 2: Have done it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, including the Kings, by the way, thank you very much. Uh,

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Speaker 6: and then we have oh no his work. Ken is

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Speaker 6: gonna accuse me of doing too much sports. Carmelo Anthony's

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Speaker 6: retiring from the NBA. Well he was still in it,

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Speaker 6: I guess, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say he's kind of a was

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Speaker 2: he was another horrible Laker? Who was he playing?

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Speaker 4: What was he?

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Speaker 2: A father of a coach? How old is this?

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Speaker 6: And then twenty years I didn't know he was back.

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Speaker 6: Oh I didn't either, American Airlines.

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Speaker 2: What do you saying?

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Speaker 4: What did you think?

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Speaker 2: Or he wasn't on the team this year? Oh he

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Speaker 2: wasn't last year? He was for Yes, he was on

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Speaker 2: the Lakers last year.

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Speaker 6: All right, so he's not retiring, he's retired.

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Speaker 2: They retired him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, all right, American Airlines to jump Blue

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Speaker 6: have to abandon their partnership in the northeast quarter of

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Speaker 6: Federal judge.

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Speaker 2: They have too much of a monopoly. So thing doing,

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Speaker 2: all right?

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Speaker 1: Conway's coming up, Yes, let's yeah, we'll cover that death ceiling, right, yeah, Look,

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Speaker 1: the dead ceiling is that we do with the last

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Speaker 1: hours all dead sealing?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? Right? Raise the roof. Grocer's got

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Speaker 2: listening to The John and Ken Show.

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