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Speaker 2: trade rumor. Yeah, yes, we got a nice juicy one

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Speaker 2: The Celtics merge as front runners to land the Orlando

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Speaker 2: this juicy juicy rumor.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's official. We're in trade deadline season. If the

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Speaker 3: Celtics are closing in on a trade, feels so right

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Speaker 3: to me. But skeatzy, I actually believe this one. The

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Speaker 3: of thing. But most importantly, the Celtics have a need

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Speaker 3: I tend to buy into every single Danny Ainge rumor

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Speaker 3: Gordon is gonna up the defensive versatility that the Celtics have,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that from the Celtics because Marcus smartt

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Speaker 4: has accepted himself. I think as a role player on

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Speaker 4: I think Gordon slightly ahead of him, better shooter and

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Speaker 4: be their long term So, yeah, you're right, Tray's right.

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Speaker 4: You have to give up something to get something, and

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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon is certainly available. But I think that's a

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Speaker 4: But I'm not sure that that it really does all

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Speaker 4: matt brings his value, and I think they will miss that,

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Speaker 4: he'll also just go missing for games on end, and

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Speaker 2: So to me, doesn't sound like you love it.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't. I think Marcus matter. I

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Speaker 4: accepted a little bit less there because I think Brad

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Speaker 4: get somewhere else if you want to accept that role.

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Speaker 2: And he did that.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I would be very hesitant to give

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Speaker 4: I say, maybe not as offensively gifted as Aaron Gordon,

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Speaker 4: So don't like that at all as it is. If

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Speaker 2: Right now, Here's what I love about trade season. I

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Speaker 2: you listen to Guilty as Charge. Of course I'm always

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Speaker 2: I like when Aaron Gordon turns into basically prime Scottie Pippin,

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Speaker 2: you know, just like how we talk about them. It

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Speaker 2: happens every year, right Trey, Like where we pick a

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Speaker 2: and we're talking about, like obviously the positive qualities they

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Speaker 2: Don't love the idea of giving up on Marcus Smart here.

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Speaker 2: It reeks a little bit of desperation. I think the

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Speaker 2: Celtics are at here for maybe a shakeup. But yeah, Trey,

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Speaker 2: and it's pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: team who says, I can't believe we're comparing Aaron Gordon

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Speaker 3: This is the ramand Sessions Memorial Award, the guy whose

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Speaker 2: We'll have like a smaller you know, definitely not a

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Speaker 2: The Clippers traded fiondu cabin jelly all right, and a

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Athletics that John Hollinger called this trade,

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Speaker 4: Look, I was just a little surprised to see this name.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, Trey, I'm not even going to ask you

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Speaker 3: Which was that you gotta be a true sicko to

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Speaker 2: But you're right, Lee, it's gonna open something up.

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Speaker 3: You did your trade deadline primer, and you're like, I

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Speaker 2: If you say fucking anything about Bradley Beal, I'm cutting

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Speaker 4: So we've been talking a lot about the Celtics, and

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Speaker 2: Well, somebody agrees with you in the stream team there.

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Speaker 2: Leally Yash says he could see, you know, DeRozan being

431
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: like a Gordon Heyward right tape replacement. Yea, I understand

432
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 2: that that does make some sense there. DeRozan's turned into

433
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: a really incredible playmaker. Yeah, as his career has gone

434
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: on and on, Celtics could use that. There's a lot

435
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 2: of dribbling on that team, a lot of sort of

436
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: like isoaction ball does not move a whole ton. So okay,

437
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 2: you're getting creative there with the Celtics Spurs. Yeah, two

438
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 2: teams that are known to be making tons of deals.

439
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe hey, maybe this is the year, this

440
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: is the year. Where are you going tray with something

441
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: you'd like to see happened this week.

442
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: Doubles gotta make a trade. I don't know if they're

443
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: the worst good team in the league or the best

444
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 3: bad team.

445
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 2: They spend bomb slaying all year.

446
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: Smoking the bad teams, then they go out and lose

447
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: to the good teams. This is exactly what happened with

448
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: the Pistons and Jazz double header they had.

449
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: They beat the Pistons.

450
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't very inspiring, but they beat them pretty easy

451
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: because the balls are better.

452
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 2: Then they go out and they get smoked by the Jazz.

453
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: Not great stuff.

454
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: Our tourist karnashevist that guy has been chilling since taking

455
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: over for the Bulls, and everybody's been okay with it.

456
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 3: He's coasting on the good vibes though, of being the

457
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: new guy, and it's time to do something. The indications

458
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 3: or that the Bulls want to be buyers at the deadline,

459
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 3: I think that's great. It's weird to me that the

460
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: Bulls almost never come up in major market talk when

461
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: you're hearing people talk about major markets, and that is

462
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: a problem to me. They're a huge market, a legacy franchise.

463
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: They kind of should be acting like it. They're making

464
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: a playoff push for the first time in their rebuild

465
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: since the Jimmy Butler trade. They have tradable pieces. I've

466
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: put Otto Porter's gigantic expiring contract in every deal possible.

467
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 3: Magic fans were pissed yesterday that I wanted to trade

468
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: Otto Porter, Lowry Markinen and a first round pick for

469
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 3: Nicola Vucevich. I understand he's gonna be your all time

470
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: leading scorer, Magic Fans, but guess what. I also tried

471
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: to trade Auto Porter for Anthony Davis and Kyle Lock.

472
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and trade in for anybody that's making

473
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: about thirty million dollars because that's a huge trade chip

474
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: that honestly needs to be cashed in. Because Porter's barely

475
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: in the Bulls rotation. He hasn't really been able to

476
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: stay on the court, but he could be valuable to

477
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: a team I don't know, like the Lakers, like the Clippers,

478
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: a championship level team that wants somebody who can sop

479
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: up some minutes, may make some threes. He'll be better

480
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: on a contending team. I think Loarry Markin and another

481
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: guy I'd be fine putting in a deal I have

482
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: that magic deal. He's shooting the ball really well. He

483
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: has some trouble standing on the court, and he has

484
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 3: trouble contributing outside of shooting, and some flashes where he

485
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: takes a guy off the dribble butt. He's still talented.

486
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: He's still only twenty three years old. He's a restricted

487
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: free agent after the season. So if somebody's interested, you

488
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 3: get him for the end of this year, and then

489
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: you have the rights to re sign him in the summer.

490
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: Bolls have all their picks, they've got the giant expiring

491
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: contract young players. They could be intriguing. They're probably making

492
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: the play in regardless, but they could get to the

493
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Speaker 3: top six if they actually make a move for somebody

494
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: who helps. Can't be evaluation mode all the time. Let's

495
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: see something happen here.

496
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Speaker 2: Ak. Yeah. On the Sunday trade deadline, primer, I talked

497
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Speaker 2: about like all the restricted free agents Larry market and

498
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Speaker 2: being one of them, and I think he is the

499
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Speaker 2: most likely of like your call Ins and maybe even

500
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Speaker 2: your Lonzo's and stuff like that, these RFAs to be moved.

501
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: I see it. I think there's teams that could talk

502
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Speaker 2: themselves into it. You know, he is like you said

503
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: Trey like he could shoot me. The guy's a forty

504
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: percent three point shooter, seven foot tall. Yeah, he doesn't

505
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: give you much defensively, he doesn't give you a whole

506
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: lot else. Actually, for being honest, he's very BARNIONI like,

507
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: I hate to bring up that comparison again. Yes, that is.

508
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 3: I pulled the list of three point shooters who are

509
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: over seven feet tall market and already number six on

510
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: the list at number two. You guessed it, Andrea Barniao. Yeah, man,

511
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: seven footers haven't been shooting threes for that long. These

512
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: guys are top six exactly.

513
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who's so what dork is number one? Right?

514
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: By a mile? Yes, yes, by a mile. Yeah. So

515
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: I could see a loud market and being moved and

516
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: the auto porter expiring. Yeah. Do they just come to

517
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: an agreement on a buyout? And is that probably more likely? Probably? Probably?

518
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: But okay, I like this. Celtics and Bulls. Let's hear

519
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: from everybody again who you would like to see get

520
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: move this week? I'll move on again. Go listen to

521
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: my Sunday Primer podcast, Trade Deadline Primer Podcast, where I

522
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: talk a lot about some of the predictions I want

523
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: to see and by the time we would say something,

524
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: now we're so close to the deadline, either happened or

525
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: a little player that we talked about will be moved

526
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: to another team. So we'll keep it moving. Here, We're

527
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: gonna get to the great, great, great correction here by

528
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: Grant Channing. Fry is number two. Oh good, Kenny Fry.

529
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Speaker 2: Good keV.

530
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Speaker 3: I think so, I don't know. Okay, now I gotta

531
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Speaker 3: go check my tweets. That's it's not worth it. Luke

532
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: Cornett is fifteenth though, guaranteed Luke Cornett is fifteenth.

533
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: If somebody is looking for a lowry markin and knockoff.

534
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people in the in the stream team saying

535
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: how long until Poku is on this list? Baby, Yeah,

536
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: that's fifteenth. Yeah right. So okay, we're gonna, you know,

537
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: turn our attention to the games from last night, though

538
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's still gonna include some trade talk raps fans,

539
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: because we'll start with the Rockets snapping a twenty game

540
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: losing streak. I felt good for Steven Silas. I'll be honest,

541
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, they're off the schneid.

542
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: There.

543
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: I got a victory. Unfortunately it came against my team,

544
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors, who have hit rock bottom for this

545
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: garbage season down there in Tampa Lee. Where do you

546
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: want to get started with this? You want to talk

547
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 2: about the Rockets getting obviously a much needed victory or

548
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: the Raptors now losing nine Street in pretty devastating style.

549
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: They got their ass handed to them. They're leading this one.

550
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: In the end, they did. Yeah, it was somewhat closer.

551
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: At halftime. I think Maclamorrea was hit like a half

552
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: court bomb and that was sorry, yeah, And it was

553
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: like almost like that was a symbol of like, yeah,

554
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 4: it's just not the Raptor's night. But yeah, I don't know.

555
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: They now have the longest losing streak at the league

556
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: at nine in a row. And you got Denver, Phoenix,

557
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: Portland the next three. Now they're in Tampa, so you

558
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: know home.

559
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: Ish, No, it's not home.

560
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the problem is Yeah, So I don't

561
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: know now, you know, because I've been sort of saying

562
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 4: I think the Raptors, with their continuity and experience, all

563
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: those factors I thought would have come into play by now,

564
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: but instead it's gone the other way, and four games

565
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: out of eighth in the playoffs. So maybe now MASSAGERI

566
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: has changed his attitude towards this trade deadline and thinks, well,

567
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: I may as well see what I can get for

568
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: these guys, especially because Kyle Lowry it seems no matter

569
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: what happens for the remainder of this season, that he

570
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: won't be a Raptor next season. That seems almost inevitable.

571
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: So if you can get something for him, and I think,

572
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: you know, seeing the Clippers making these moose, teams are

573
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: going to say, yeah, now's our time. Because Kyle Lowry

574
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: is there, the Raptors may as well cash in on him.

575
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: So I think that's going to happen. I think there's

576
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: now going to be some movement, and it may not

577
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 4: just be Lowry, it may be some other players there.

578
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: So you know, I think Norm is the most likely

579
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 4: of the others to go. But yeah, this was just

580
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: just a bad.

581
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: Bad performance from the rapt The Raptors are playing like

582
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: the worst team in the league right now. I mean

583
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: I watch a lot of Raptors and I watch a

584
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: lot of basketball. They look like the worst team right now.

585
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: That's the scary part.

586
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like this was obviously the game that

587
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: they could have just win to shake off, you know,

588
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: because they played well against the Jazz on Friday night

589
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: there and it was like, you know, they're close to

590
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: a victory. So you go from might be the best

591
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: team in the league to you know, one of the

592
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: worst and get pounded by them. It's it's bad. So yeah,

593
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: the rap Is. Don't you think they're even gonna make

594
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs?

595
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, well I think at the end of the

596
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: streak the longest active.

597
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, don't talk too much about that.

598
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: It's one of my answers for a question when we

599
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: hit the beach later today. But I thought William lou

600
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: does a fantastic job of like recapping a lot of

601
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: the Raptors games, has a podcast, Raptors Over Everything over

602
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah who Sports. I thought he brought up a really

603
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: interesting point he was talking today in last night in

604
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: his article about the twenty eighteen Raptors. They used to

605
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: have a bench unit of Van Vliet, Powell, ziakam O,

606
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: g Delon Wright and Yaka Pearl. All six of those

607
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: players now are starters in this league. You know, four

608
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: of them in Toronto of course, and then the other

609
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: two there right at Pearl elsewhere compare that to what

610
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: the Raptors have on their second unit. Now, it's basically

611
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: Chris Bouchet, who is fine for games, but you know,

612
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: has not put it together yet in this league. He

613
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: hasn't shown that. I don't think he's well. Maybe with

614
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: the Raptors, you know, starting five is maybe a starting center.

615
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: But it's Bouchet is what I'm getting out here. This

616
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: is why William low and I'm starting to come around

617
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: on it. Thinks you've got to find the best offers

618
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: right now for Norm and Lowry because the developmental pipeline

619
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: for this team is basically bone dry. The Raptors have

620
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: seven players who went undrafted. Like, on one hand, you're like, wow, kudos,

621
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool, like, you know, taking a chance of

622
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: finding these gems, so to speak. But only one of

623
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: them's Van Vliet, who was honestly, he was great in

624
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: this game. He gave it hiss all. You know, Lowry

625
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: was Lowry. It's fine, but all these other guys, all

626
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: these other undrafted guys, like this is not something you're

627
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: to be proud of. You need to get some young

628
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: talent in here, some picks. And yeah, okay, it's great

629
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: that those guys that I said back in eighteen, A

630
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: lot of those guys are starters for them in Van

631
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: Vliet Palace, yakam and og. But there's no bench, and

632
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: you know, this team is lifeless. It's brutal. And I

633
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: really am now wondering if in the next two days here,

634
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I guess two three days, if Massiujerie and Bobby Webster

635
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: they do it Ley and they say, yeah, we got

636
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: to get suthed in here because we were definitely, like

637
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: you said, we may not even make the playoffs, let

638
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: alone we're not competing for a championship. So Lowry, if

639
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: he's leaving, let's see if we can get something for him.

640
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, with his blessing, he sounds like he wants

641
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: to go to a winner. So you're gonna try and

642
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: to get him to the Heat. You're gonna try to

643
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: get them to the six ers. You're gonn try to

644
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: get him to the Clippers wherever, and then whatever you

645
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: can take for Norm. I think you got a cash

646
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: in on Norm. Like he had a garbage game last night,

647
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: but his trade value has never been higher. He's going

648
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: to yeah, he does, and he's probably gonna opt out

649
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: out of that because he's played pretty well and he'll

650
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: probably make himself a pretty decent paycheck, definitely more than

651
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: when he makes now what's he making like ten or eleven?

652
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: Right, so yeah it was a little high, but yeah, okay.

653
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, I thought it was an interesting point for

654
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: William lou uh when you sort of compare the teams

655
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: from from yesteryear to now and it's depressing as Raps fans.

656
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: But well, when he had those T shirts, didn't we

657
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: the Bench Bros T shirts?

658
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I wish I was wrong about that. Yeah, yeah, that

659
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: with all the names on the back. Yeah, absolutely right.

660
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: So we'll see Trey. Do you think they do something

661
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: here in the next couple of days? Do you almost

662
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: have two? I guess is the better way to ask it.

663
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: It's time.

664
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: Call Michael Buffer or Bruce Buffer, whichever one the guy

665
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: that says it's time.

666
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: I think it's Bruce, right. It started as the lesser Buffer.

667
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Now he's the better Buffer. Wow, what a change.

668
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: M Knight Shamalan twist right there. This is a blessing

669
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: in disguise, though for the Raptors it's rock bottom. Like

670
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: you're saying, Skeets, it's time. You never know what's gonna happen.

671
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Could end up playing out like the Warriors. They had

672
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: a down year last year with all the injuries. They

673
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: kind of leaned into it, you know, Steph Curry didn't

674
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: hurry back from injury. They ended up with the number

675
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: two pick in the draft.

676
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: The Raptors are pretty.

677
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: Low in the draft order right now, but if you

678
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: trade two of your best players, two of your most

679
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: established starters, you're able to get even closer. And as

680
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: we know, the lottery odds have flattened out, maybe you

681
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: get lucky. Maybe you get a top four pick in

682
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: a draft that apparently has guys who are going to

683
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: be really solid players right away. I think this could

684
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: work out well for the Raptors. It's a bummer of

685
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: a season, but it will be nice next year when

686
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: they're back in Toronto with fans in the stands, to

687
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: have Kyle Lowry return and get honored right Like, it's

688
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: gonna be more fun to have him return to Toronto

689
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: having all of the people there cheering for him than

690
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: it would be in Tampa Bay. So blessing in disguise

691
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: for the Raptors. It's a bummer this year, but you

692
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: still got those bench bros. T shirts and you still

693
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: got a banner hanging. It's all good, skeatsy.

694
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, time to build you up that How long can

695
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: I be happy about the championship banner? Just like you know,

696
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: how many years have you seen it? Have you seen

697
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: it in person yet?

698
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: No?

699
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: I haven't, at least until then, unless until I get

700
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: my eyes on it. Yeah, you got to peep it

701
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: with your own eyes. Yeah, so we'll see what the

702
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Raps do again. I think there'll be uh, you know,

703
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: I think we're getting closer and closer to a move

704
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: actually being made here if they can, if Messia and

705
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Bobby Webster can find something like all right, keep it

706
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: going here next game. John Moran Dylan Brooks leave the

707
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: Grizzlies past the Celtic in overtime. I was excited for

708
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: this victory from the Grizzlies. You know, I'm slowly moving

709
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: off from my Raptors here. Of course, I've got a

710
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: couple other secondary teams that I like. You know, I'm

711
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: a big Canadian thunder fan. They got to win last night.

712
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 2: I love the Grizzlies because I picked them to make

713
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: a nice second half run here. I think they're back

714
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: to five hundred now, so I'm excited about that. They

715
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: still don't have Jaron Jackson Junior. I think he may

716
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: be still a couple weeks away. I thought he'd be

717
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: a little closer by now, but he might be a

718
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: couple weeks still. But yeah, they were helped out by

719
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: the Celtics missing Kemba Walker Jason Tatum, as you said

720
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: the earlee earlier. But John Moran is so damn special.

721
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: This guy twenty nine points, nine assists and some jaw

722
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: dropping place. I mean, he is must watch league past material.

723
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: He honestly is Dylan Brooks great games, got a punchable face.

724
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: But twenty four points, seven boards, seven assists, and if

725
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: this team can ever add some three point shooting, oh

726
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: look out. And they're young, so this is fine. Like

727
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: I would love to see them try and get in

728
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: to at least a playing tournament, maybe even the playoffs.

729
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: But they ranked twenty ninth and three pointers made and

730
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: twenty sixth in attempts in percentage, so they could use

731
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: a little shooting out there. I mean Jared Jackson Junior

732
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: of course would help as a big guy that can

733
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: stretch the floor. So he's seven feet tall. I can't

734
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: remember I bet he's a bit shy. Yeah, it might

735
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: be a six to eleven er. Yeah, So anyway, you

736
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: know they have a top ten defense. They play scrappy,

737
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: they play hard and John Morant you have you can't

738
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: take your eyes off him. Did you see the Donkey

739
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: has like Dylan Brooks garbage pass oh jd racking it up, Oh,

740
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: racking him up, sausage. Oh my goodness, Like, yeah, I

741
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: know this comparison has been made. I've said it one

742
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: hundred times, but I don't know how you don't see

743
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: Penny Hardaway when I watched it, Like when I watched

744
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: John Moran play, like, of course, you know young Penny

745
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Hardaway pre injury, Penny Hardaway. It's just like the explosiveness.

746
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: And then he had that one on the fast break

747
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: and he's like around his back in traffic and he like, yeah,

748
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: somehow sneaked it in. I think Tye even blocked it him.

749
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: Fun stuff from the Grizzlies. Good victory there in overtime

750
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: when you know they gave up a bit of a

751
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: lead and sort of buckled down in ot and go.

752
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: I much need to win for all. These are important

753
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: wins for them obviously to get into the playoff picture there, Lily.

754
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only criticism I will have, and I'm an

755
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: old man here, so I expect to take a little

756
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: bit of heat. But the last possession in regulation was

757
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 4: just bad execution. Fun from the Grizzlies, took too long,

758
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: and Moran not a great three point shooter and we've

759
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: seen him drive this season. Just surprised he didn't do it,

760
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: that's all.

761
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Just surprised.

762
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: But again, that's something that a young player will learn.

763
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: He was having a great game and I'm just I

764
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: thought Taylor Jenkins would have just been, like, just drive inside,

765
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: like you've done that several times for us in close

766
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: games in the past, but instead settled for the three

767
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: and it was nowhere near close, but they got the win,

768
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: So you know, that sort of papers over that crack

769
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: a little bit, but that's all. That's all, you know.

770
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: He was incredibly fun to watch last night. Even some

771
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: of his passes that don't even convert to field goals.

772
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: He died. You know, he goes inside and then just

773
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: hooks the ball around to someone on the perimeter, and

774
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: his accuracy and his decision is incredible. So he's only

775
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: gonna be become a better player. And yeah, I mean

776
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: just fun to watch, which is great for Memphis because

777
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: they need someone like him to have the eyeballs, the

778
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: national eyeballs.

779
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see Penny Hardaway, I see shades of Derreck

780
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: Rose when he was a young player. Man that Alley

781
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: You that's the thing that's different. I mean, Penny was

782
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: such a fluid athlete and had the incredible size, the handles,

783
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: which I think you see with John the flashy passing

784
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: as well. But his athleticism is at another level than Penny,

785
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: and I think it's at that's Derek Rose, even after

786
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: going through injuries. If we're talking about backhanded compliments, though,

787
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: you love to say Dylan Brooks, great player, punchable face.

788
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: I like this one from Brevian Knight, something along the

789
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: lines of, you gotta have someone like Dylan Brooks to

790
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: take these clutch shots, someone who's not afraid to miss.

791
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: He means it as a compliment. Yeah, but Dylan Brooks

792
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: is shooting thirty nine percent. Yeah, yeah, he is willing

793
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: to miss. Buddy did his thing in overtime. The guy

794
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: who stood out to me, though, Beef yonis Valancuna sixteen points,

795
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: nineteen boards, one of them offensive. I thought he set

796
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: the tone for the Grizzlies dominating inside. Memphis scored eighty

797
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: points in the plant. Yeah, that's a ton of points

798
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: in the paint, which is also why it's a little

799
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: surprising that joh didn't go to the hoop there at

800
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: the end of regulation, but also a little bit why

801
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: I think that Aaron Gordon Evan fourty eight cannot be

802
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: it for the Celtics. They're just softies inside. If you're

803
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: seeing a guy like Valentunis go and throw bodies around,

804
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: throwing Robert Williams around. Valentina's had a monster third quarter,

805
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: they just need a real big guy to clean up

806
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: the glass and just be huge there. Maybe Aaron Bains,

807
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: Maybe they try and get Bansy from the rafters, bringing

808
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: back smack some people around. I don't know what it is,

809
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: but somebody's got to do something inside.

810
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: For the Celtics.

811
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: Hey, Skeets, maybe you can relate to this a little

812
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: bit more than trade, because I think you and I

813
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: played a similar position as kids growing up. You know,

814
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: I sort of point God shooting God, and every now

815
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: and again you'd get to like, as you go up

816
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: in the age groups, it'd be one guy who just

817
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: kind of goes through puberty early and he just becomes

818
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: gigantic over one summer.

819
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: Was never me, No, never me either.

820
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: But then you would sometimes you'd be playing against his

821
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: gun and then, like I say, the next time you

822
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 4: come back, this guy is just massive. That's how valent

823
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: Tunis has been lately for the Grizzlies, like really just

824
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: throwing his body around.

825
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially in a game where it is

826
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: a more finesse game, it really jumps out at you.

827
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: This guys just back like the big beef, just like

828
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: bloodying guys he is he is. He's just thrown them around.

829
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: I mean, we kind of That's what it was sort

830
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: of reported he was going to be like when he

831
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: came over as a young player from Lithuanea. I said,

832
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: this is a big guy, an athletic guy who can

833
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: get inside and throw his body. But it took him

834
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: a few years, like most young kids, to just mature

835
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: and feel comfortable. Now he feels company. He's got the

836
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: big bushy beard out there as well. He's an intimidating

837
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: look out there, but he's doing the job for Memphis.

838
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: He's been very good for them. So this is a

839
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: really important stretch for them right now, as you say,

840
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: only five hundred, still battling just to get into that

841
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: sort of playing tournament playoffs, but could cause some damage

842
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: if they get there.

843
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, next game here, the reserves lead the

844
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Clippers huge rally to the one nineteen one ten win

845
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: over the streaking Hucks. Snap there winning streak. Ha ha, Trey,

846
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: big takeaway from this, This was a weird one. Yeah.

847
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: I was up late playing top shot. Just finished Grizzly Celtics.

848
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: The NCAA games are winding down. I think just gotta

849
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: throw on Hawk's Clippers second half. I don't want to

850
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: be silent up here trying to buy some stupid moments.

851
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: Atlanta goes up twenty one in the third, ty Lou

852
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: pulls his starters. I'm thinking, Wow, Hawks are gonna win

853
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: nine straight here plus one over the Clippers. The main

854
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: can or the main knock on the Hawks during their

855
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: win streak is that they haven't beaten any serious competition.

856
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: You can only beat the teams ahead. Do you look nice?

857
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Nice action?

858
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: They're gonna take down the Clippers. I know they're struggling,

859
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: but that's a good win for the Hawks.

860
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then Terrence I'm a.

861
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: Man baby, and Luke the Nerddug Canard said, not so fast,

862
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: my friend. Twenty points on eight of eight shooting in

863
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: the second half for Canard, the guy euro stepped a

864
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: half court heave at the end of the third quarter

865
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: drained it seventeen in the second half for Terrence man

866
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: some man jams in their shoutout Iron Eagle. These two

867
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: guys led the Clippers come back, brought them back. Kawhi

868
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: ended it with a dagger three from the top. He

869
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: celebrated like the bouncer for Toronto.

870
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreaming.

871
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: You don't see that from Kawhi very often. But this

872
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: was a great win for the Clippers. Best game of

873
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: the season. I would say for Luke Canard, he's struggled

874
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: to have an impact. Has it quite lived up to

875
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: the contract LA gave him in the off season. But

876
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: last night he gave the Clippers exactly what they were

877
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: looking for when they signed him or when they traded

878
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 3: for him. Somebody who can make shots from the outside,

879
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: who can create from for others as well. If he

880
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: can take some sort of confidence from this, Clippers' death is.

881
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Gonna look a lot better.

882
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: So that was really nice for the Clippers to come back,

883
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: especially with two guys who are not their superstars doing it.

884
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. The other games, Fox and Halliburton combined to

885
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: score fifty eight as the Kings beat the Calves thunder

886
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: hit twenty one threes. SGA had thirty one to beat

887
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: the Wolves one twelve, one oh three. Trey Earmus, Mitchell

888
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: and Gobert dominated as the Jazz crushed the Bulls by

889
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: twenty five. It's a bad l for everybody in the

890
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: old pick them there. The Bucks killed the Pacers one

891
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: forty one thirteen without Giannis. Bucks are playing phenomenal basketball

892
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: right now. And the Hornets topped the Spurs one hundred

893
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: to ninety seven in the first game since LaMelo Ball's injury.

894
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: That was a really nice win for them. I actually

895
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: watched a lot of that fourth quarter action. Terry Rozier

896
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: again a massive bucket, like a huge like little sort

897
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 2: of step back step to the side, three Eric Collins

898
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: going bonkers. Guy is clutch man. They had a graphic

899
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: up showing the Hornets as like basically the most dominant

900
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: team in the clutch like their offensive rating, defensive rating

901
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: number one by with a bang in the league. So

902
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: net meeting as well. Yeah, it's it was wild in

903
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: like a close game, you know, five point game, five

904
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: minutes or less to go. They've just been phenomenal, so

905
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: that was a nice victory for them again after the

906
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: Lamello ball injury. And the only other thing I have

907
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: to add is back to the first one there. I

908
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: saw Tom Zilla in his newsletter today. We keep talking

909
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: about sex Land all the time, right lely with Sexton

910
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: and Gland, which is great, but Ziller says he's all

911
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: in for Hallie Fox. With the Halliburton and Fox. You know,

912
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: I showed up to Halifax, I Forgata Halifox. I don't mind. Yeah,

913
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: fifty eight they combined to beat the Calves. Anything to

914
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: add to any of those games, gentlemen, as we just

915
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: lump them all together, you got anything, Lely?

916
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: Well, Gilg just Alexander missed the game before and he

917
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: just absolutely roasted the Timbers. Only had thirty one, but

918
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: felt like he had fifty. That's a bad loss for

919
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: the Wolves. That's that's a winnable game for them against

920
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: the Thunder and they couldn't get it done. But yeah,

921
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Gilg just Alexander just brilliant. He's been great all season

922
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: and last night just a couple of times because it

923
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: was close enough in the third quarter and then he

924
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 4: was just the best player on the court last night

925
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: easily and that you know, Towns should be better than

926
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: he was. But yeah, really good performance from Mike Gil

927
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: just out. I don't even know I was watching that one,

928
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: but it was one of those you know, you just something.

929
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: It was closet. I turned it out.

930
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, these are two of the worst

931
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: teams in what am I doing here? But I'm a

932
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: guy who watches every balls game, so I'm down with

933
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: watching that and.

934
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm watching the reps.

935
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so really impressive stuff from keelg just Alexander.

936
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was something going around Twitter last night,

937
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: like the thunder have Uh the average age for their

938
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: starters is like lower than most like college teams right now,

939
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: or at least a couple of colors team, Like they

940
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: just have so many like guys that are super young.

941
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: A lot of people have never even heard of that.

942
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: They're rolling out there and they still are winning games,

943
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Like will the basketball gods bless? Okay, see in the

944
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: draft lottery, like with those ping pong balls because they

945
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: have no right to be this good. They really don't

946
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: with a lot of the guys that are starting, and

947
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: they keep winning a decent amount of games here, so

948
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: maybe maybe they will be blessed whenever the draft lottery is.

949
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: I haven't even thought about when that happens. Who knows

950
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: no clue. Yeah, I don't even know if they named

951
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: a date for that. So okay, have some sad news

952
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: here to slip into the show Hall of Fame. Forward

953
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: Elgin Baylor died yesterday at the age of eighty six.

954
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: He died of natural causes Monday and was surrounded by

955
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: his wife, Elaine and his daughter Crystal, The Lakers said

956
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: in a statement. Considered one of basketball's greatest players, eleven

957
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: time All Star, ten time All NBA First Team, and

958
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: he was named as one of the fifty greatest players

959
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: in NBA history. Averaged twenty seven four point four points

960
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: and thirteen point five rebounds per game for his career

961
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: twenty seven and thirteen over a fourteen year career. Leally

962
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: anything to add to obviously the sad news. But one

963
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: of the best players in NBA history.

964
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned there on the court, A true great.

965
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: He has a statue outside Staple senator as well, But

966
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 4: he was so much more than just a basketball player.

967
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: In nineteen fifty nine, he set out a game in

968
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 4: protest because he was not allowed to stay at the

969
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: same hotel as his white teammates, and that led to

970
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: the league creating a policy which forbid hotels to discriminate

971
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: against any member of NBA. So his impact sixty years ago,

972
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 4: you know, standing up to racial discrimination is very notable

973
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: and showed that he wasn't just out there, you know,

974
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: playing basketball. He wanted to have a greater a voice

975
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: and it worked at impact of the league. And furthermore,

976
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: in the sixty one sixty two season, he averaged thirty

977
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: eight points a game, but he only played in forty

978
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: eight games because he was on active military duty and

979
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: could only play for the Lakers on his weekend passes.

980
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: So in some sense, basketball was his hobby in that respect,

981
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: you know, and you know, you think about the numbers

982
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: he put up, then imagine if he was allowed to

983
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: focus solely on basketball, what his numbers might have looked

984
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: like might have looked like. So, yeah, just an incredible

985
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: person and a fantastic basketball player. A sad day for

986
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: him and his family and the basketball community.

987
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately never won a championship. Didn't because he think

988
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: he retired right before the Lakers won what on their

989
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: like during the season, Yeah, right at the beginning of

990
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, So obviously he's on the short list

991
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: for greatest players to never have a rang. I was

992
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: watching a lot of his clips because they're being shared

993
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: yesterday and people are pointing it out, man, like, you know,

994
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: we got the Euros step, as we call it, but

995
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: should it really be the Baylor's step, Like Elgind Baylor

996
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: was pulling out Euros like back in the sixties, Trey,

997
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I know you were watching some of the clips. We

998
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: were talking about it last night on the Top Shot

999
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: Hop Boys.

1000
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching some Elgin Baylor highlight tapes from

1001
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: back in the day, seeing it go from black and

1002
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: white to color. Pretty incredible stuff. It's crazy to see

1003
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: somebody doing moves that don't look out of place in

1004
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: the NBA during a game from sixty years ago. But

1005
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: obviously elgend Baylor a super legend. The Lakers are the

1006
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: most one of the two most legendary franchises in the NBA.

1007
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: He's still fourth all time in scoring, first in points

1008
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: per game for the Lakers. We've spent some pretty decent

1009
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: scores for the Lakers over the years, so for him

1010
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: to still be first incredible stuff. And then somehow he

1011
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: won Executive of the Year with the Clippers. The Clippers

1012
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: were a joke, a laughing stock amongst the league. He

1013
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: had to deal with a lot of discrimination from Donald Sterling,

1014
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: but he was still able to piece together a playoff

1015
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: team in two thousand and six. They looked like they

1016
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: were upwardly mobile, no doubt about it. Injuries to Sean

1017
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: Livingston kind of derailed them. They weren't able to put

1018
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: it together until recently. But for a period there he

1019
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: actually had the Clippers looking decent making it to the playoffs.

1020
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: So no doubt an La legend. It was wild. I

1021
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: don't know why this crossed my mind. I guess in

1022
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: watching the clips that there's probably only like thirty minutes

1023
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: total of Elgin Baylor like footage out there for his

1024
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: entire career, Just like a weird thing to wrap your

1025
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: head around. Again, like one of the greatest players ever,

1026
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: we have like hopefully like thirty minutes of it. So

1027
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: go watch it, Go fire it up on YouTube today.

1028
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: You won't be disappointed. You know, like you're gonna be like, oh,

1029
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: sixties basketball, what did that look like? But Train's right,

1030
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: he was damn athletic, especially for that time. Some of

1031
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: the things he's moving, like some of the English he's

1032
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: putting on the ball. Did he invent the jelly? As

1033
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: well as possible? He takes a couple that are like, wow,

1034
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: you're right where he has that little crazy spin on

1035
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: it up kissing it a high off of the backboard.

1036
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: So go check that out. And yeah, sending our condolences

1037
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: to the Baylor family. All right, let's get to tweet

1038
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: of the night. Tweet of the night. Wow.

1039
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: On yesterday's show, we played a legendary Lamar Herd clip.

1040
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: Every clip from this guy gets better and better, talking

1041
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: for almost a minute and a half about wedgies. Getting

1042
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: what that was our thirty fourth wedgie of the season.

1043
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: I believe it was a blowout Blazers versus MAVs. A

1044
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: wedgie ball gets inbounded, somebody goes through the free throw line.

1045
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of time for Lamar and and

1046
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: Jordan Kent to have a conversation about wedgies. So our

1047
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: tweet of the night comes to us from Josh Waldron

1048
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: sucks on Twitter, the genderless toy Potato who says if

1049
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: that Lamar Weggie call was written as a say, what

1050
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: would y'all have voted?

1051
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: True or false?

1052
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: We're talking about a minute of weggie talk phrases mentioned

1053
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: included on an NBA broadcast weggietracker dot com.

1054
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious.

1055
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 3: I'm glad a basketball minded person got that url and

1056
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: historical wedgies.

1057
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: He just came up.

1058
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: Off the top of the dome in an NBA broadcast,

1059
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: so we got to pull up on our YouTube page.

1060
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: Would you have voted real or fake for Lamar heard

1061
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: and Jordan Kent talking weggies for a minute and a

1062
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: half during a blowout? What do y'all think if Tass

1063
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: and JD were reading that, would you have believed it's real?

1064
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Think?

1065
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: I think I would have gone, you know what, I

1066
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: think he just went a little bit too long there. Yeah,

1067
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: I think so I'm going fake. I'm going fight on.

1068
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: It without knowing because it's not like task. Probably, well

1069
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: maybe he would have. Would he have said, you know,

1070
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: blowout navs up thirty you know, like story, Yeah, because

1071
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: then it's like it's like a baseball game. You got

1072
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: time to fill, so maybe and we know Lamar of

1073
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 2: course knows about the wedgie you love Lamar, So yeah,

1074
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: I probably would have gone false, like.

1075
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: Apecually bring up the wedgie tracking track. You're getting the

1076
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 4: love yet that's too much. Yeah, that's just testing. Like

1077
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: it's almost like we haven't had a wedgi for a while,

1078
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 4: so he's trying to sort of get it out there

1079
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: and bring attention to it, right, right, right.

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00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: So I was told too, Uh, there's been some updates

1081
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: to weggie tracker dot com already, Yes, just incredible work

1082
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: by Ricardo. So we were saying that there should be

1083
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 2: somewhere on weggie tracker dot com the all time record

1084
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: for weggies. Uh, that's there. Now, there's actually a nice definition.

1085
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: Now the basketball is stuck between the rim and the backboard.

1086
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: You know, people might stumble upon weggietracker dot com. And uh,

1087
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: he told me, I haven't found it yet, but there

1088
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: is the easter egg of me getting a weggie by

1089
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: Shack somewhere in this And so I'll let you guys go.

1090
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: I have an idea where it is, but I'll let

1091
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: everybody else. Uh JD, you gotta click that dancing wedgie box.

1092
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead, JD. Just click and see where it

1093
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: takes us. Oh, okay, there is incredible work, Ricardo. I love.

1094
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: This site's getting better and better. Man, go buy him

1095
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: a coffee. There's a link actually, winterchracker dot com. You

1096
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: can buy Ricardo coffee. There at the bottom a certified

1097
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: classic clip right here. Yeah that is. That is. So

1098
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: we're at thirty four. We didn't have one last night,

1099
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: but that's okay. We're on pace for sixty three. You

1100
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: know what I love about that? When you try? I

1101
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: love that little uh yeah waves there. Yeah, soothing. Okay,

1102
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: great tweet of the night. Let's get to pick a results.

1103
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: We can make this very quick. We all had the

1104
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Bulls to cover the nine and a half line at

1105
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: home to the Jazz. What I mean? Did JD say

1106
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: we were picking incorrectly?

1107
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1108
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah you did. You didn't jump on here, JD. You

1109
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: had it right, and uh yeah, we all said no, no,

1110
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: the bulls are back. Is it's Tree Kirby's fault saying

1111
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: that the bulls are back to it?

1112
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1113
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking that because I listened to a

1114
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 5: basketball podcast literally every day, and they never shut up

1115
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 5: about the jazz, like NonStop. They love the Jazz. It's

1116
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 5: this show, okay, constantly it's the best. They're the best,

1117
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 5: the best, the best team in basketball right now worse.

1118
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: So this all the.

1119
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: Time, I feel like you are other than Trey saying

1120
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: the Bulls are back. The Bulls are back, right, But

1121
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 5: you know he also says it like this, Oh man,

1122
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 5: So how seriously can you take that?

1123
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: Man?

1124
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair boy. I mean somebody should have swerved at

1125
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: the very least. So anyway, a loss for everybody. Drops

1126
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Trey to nine and four, Tass eight and five, LEAs

1127
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: six and seven, and I'm five and eight because we

1128
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: all had the Bulls to try and keep it close.

1129
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: They lost by twenty five. I mean, it wasn't close

1130
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: at all. By the way, A great job on whoever

1131
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: decided on the screen grab for that Trey Kirby payoff

1132
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: clip that we were sharing on social just like a

1133
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: nice extension tray, like you're really laid out for that.

1134
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: I was happy that it was a one take wonder. Yeah,

1135
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: nice flat zone right there. Some people are saying it

1136
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: might be the new NBA logo, so we'll see. Oh excellent, Okay, So.

1137
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Tonight's game Lakers Pelicans. I think They're six games on

1138
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: the docket and the Pelicans are favored by six and

1139
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: a half at home. Now Lakers are without Anthony Davis

1140
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: still and of course now without Lebron James, without the

1141
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: high ankle sprain. So leap, go to your first. So

1142
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: who do you like tonight?

1143
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a juicy line for the Pelicans,

1144
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: but I think they can do it so that I'll

1145
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: take New Orleans by seven more.

1146
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well, JD, don't go anywhere, man, I wanted to

1147
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: ask you just pick for me. I don't like, just

1148
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: tell me call it in the plans. Yeah, I'm desperate.

1149
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 5: Pelicans say I've ever picking up picked Pelicans.

1150
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I was actually leaning towards Pelkins. So I'm happy

1151
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: to hear that, Trey, you feel like a swerve in

1152
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 2: on us too, or you go on Pelicans as well.

1153
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: I also want to go for the Pelicans here. It's

1154
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 3: gonna be tough for the Lakers, and I always feel

1155
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: like New Orleans has a little bit of a revenge

1156
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: game against LA you know, brandon ingram Lonzo Ball. They

1157
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: want to play well against their former team.

1158
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: Kind of a big line. Bird, I'll go with New

1159
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Orleans as well. It is a bit of a big line.

1160
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: You know what about th HT watch out for Horton

1161
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: Tucker Tonight.

1162
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: The Pelicans are to lose by thirty or win by time.

1163
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: I know they're a weird team. Yeah, weird ting to

1164
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: figure out. I'm interested to see whose task takes tonight.

1165
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: Let's find out. Give me the Lakers to cover.

1166
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: The Pelicans are going to play down to their competition

1167
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: and give me a bold Danish shrewder game.

1168
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: Now that he's the number one option. I had a

1169
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: feeling that task was going to go a Lakers had

1170
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: had a feeling. That's why maybe he threw this game

1171
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: into the document here. Okay, so three of us have

1172
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: the Pelicans win, buy seven or more tasks? Has the

1173
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: Lakers fun show? Thanks for joining us. We will be

1174
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: back later today, as I said, to step on the

1175
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: beach around three thirty pm Eastern time. If you want

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00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: to join us live on YouTube otherwise that'll drop in

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: your podcast feed as soon as JD can turn around.

1178
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,799
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1186
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1187
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Speaker 2: the like we were talking about, Hollinger's calling dumb trades

1188
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Speaker 2: between the Clippers and Kings, like twenty four to forty

1189
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Speaker 2: eight hours in advance, like get plugged in, people, babe Road,

1190
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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, So we will see you later today.

1191
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: Thanks again for joining us. Clipper bros. You heard it

1192
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Speaker 2: here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you

1193
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: guys awesome. Thanks for joining us.

1194
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: And remember I forgot I'm the quotes guy at the

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Speaker 3: end of this now, so just let me show you

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Speaker 2: Trolls.

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Speaker 3: Trolls Trolls by Art Grandpa stabbing.

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Speaker 2: Phrase. Today, people, you could say.

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Speaker 1: Every day, Dan, you happy, every mine. It's been so

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Speaker 1: long with Yourna already, it's gonna be goody