1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Ron, Hello, hanc Than Hell, thank you Mike. Yetn't I 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: didn't know that it's gonna be that kind of a 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: show today, the Car Doctor. The issue is everybody says, 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: well he's got a scan tool, then it must be 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: that he can work on anything, and that's not really true. 6 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Some scan tools are better at certain car lines than others. 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nan the 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage. Orders are open, but 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: I am here to take your fault at eight five 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: five six and now he running. Hey, it's time to 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: start your engines alone and welcome morning in the Car 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Doctor here at eight five five five zero nine zero zero. 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm a little horse today and I apologize. I was well, 17 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I was. I was out late Thursday night. Um, yeah, 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: it was. It was a rough night. We went out 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: for all night barbecue, well something like that. We went 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: up to this place called Sphinx Barbecue and Suffered, New York, 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and we were um at with myself and I'm having 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: a bromance with my friend Tony who used to be 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the service manager Toyota Newberg, and um, we're talking about 24 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: the auto industry and all that things have become and 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: where will it go and uh, just just good solid conversation. 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Before I knew a three and a half almost four 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: hours had gone by. And for me to go into 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: dinner at six thirty and come out at eleven, yeah, 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of a late hour for me. That's that 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: was nappy time. Uh, you know, but my voice still 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: hasn't recovered. I apologize. It's uh, it was good conversation 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: though it was it was the things I had been 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: thinking about that he has been thinking about that as 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we're both forty year veterans in this industry 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: and what we've seen and the changes and you know, 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: where the important things are. What one of the things 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: we talked about, and I think I brought this up, 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: was about where will the technicians come from? And are 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: there any technicians out there? And I said, did you 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: ever stop to think what a perfect storm the nineteen 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties and seventies were for the development of 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: automotive technicians? And he said, how so? And I said, well, 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: what did you do in the fifties and the sixties. 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: You built muscle cars, you built hot rods. It began 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: in the late forties and then after World War Two, 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and that contributed to it also. You know, that was 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: where a lot of performance packages, a lot of the 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: guys were maintaining the bombers came back trying to make 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: cars go faster. Um Hallebrand, look a look at the 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: history on Hallebrand wheels. He was a um the fellow 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,279 Speaker 1: that started. I think I think it was Richard Hallebrand 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: um h A L I B R A N D. 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I believe he He started offering spun aluminum wheels for 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: the cars out of the dry Lakes runs out at 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Almarage in California and so on, because lighter meant go faster, 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: and he that's that's that's what Hallebrand Wheels were trying 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: to do, make things lighter to go faster. But I 58 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: said to Tony, I said, it was the perfect time. 59 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I said, you know, we're building hot rods and muscle 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: cars and a kid could go out and and buy 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: a used whatever. And that continued for so long. You know, Mike, 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: he's looking at me folks. And he's thinking now because 63 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: last week I gave Mikey of Franklin Mint and he 64 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: looked at it and he went, Wow, that's really cool. 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to be driving that. And I told him 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I had forty years ago, you would have been. It 67 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: would have been. That would have been the used car 68 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: that you bought for sitting on a back lot somewhere 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: that nobody wanted because it was a gas guzzler and 70 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: it was the late seventies and we were at the 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: fuel economy. But along the way, you would have learned 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: how to work on that car, and you would have 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: you would have made it. You would have made it 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: run right or made it run faster, made it would 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: have been your hot rod, and you would have tinkered. 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: And then somewhere along the way, somebody would have higher 77 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: jazz a mechanic and that would have been your career. 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: And and that's what I meant in talking to Tony. 79 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: We've we we we don't nurture that, you know, we 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: we we try these programs there trade schools out there, 81 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: and you know they're doing their best, but it's not 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the wholesale volume of nurture mechanic that it was forty 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: years ago. And that's why it's it's it's a little 84 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: frightening to look get the gray heads, as I call us, 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: that are going to retire soon. Not anytime soon, but 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: you know within fifteen years. A lot of whoever is 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: working on cars today, if they've been doing it thirty 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: five years, in the next fifteen that's fifty they're gone, 89 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: They're retired, or they're permanently retired. Uh, you know, so 90 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: who will work on the cars? And we talked about that. 91 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: We talked about technology. He's a Tony. Tony has retired 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: from being a service manager and now he's a he's 93 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: a rep for Hunter Wheel Alignment, Hunter Tire Service, and 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: we talked about some of the technology that Hunter brings 95 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: to the marketplaces they always have and what they're doing 96 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: with their alignment machines, and how an alignment isn't just 97 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: an alignment anymore. It's you're gonna align the wheels. You're 98 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna align the cameras that are on the car, that 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: control the A dots, the automatic driver assist systems. You 100 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: are going to align the components of the self driving car. 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Because anytime that car gets aligned which way the wheel points, 102 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: which obviously is a big part of wheel alignment is 103 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: going to affect which way the cameras look and and 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: and how that's affected, and and the technology that's there. 105 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: I worked on a we did an oil change yesterday 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: on a hund Sport that that it was a Santa 107 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Fe Limited ultimately unlimited. There was a forty dollar car. 108 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: I asked the customer, and I was thinking of Tony 109 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: as I was as I was looking at this. The 110 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: technology that's in that little sand that little Hundai um. 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, the display screen, it has heads up it 112 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: has heads up display, meaning that as you're driving, the 113 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: spidometer and the odometer are projected two feet out onto 114 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the hood, so it's always in front of you. It's 115 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: that holographic extension of the dashboard. The screen to the 116 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: right shows you not just tire pressure, vehicle information, but 117 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: it's they split the screen. There are two cameras mounted 118 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: in each side view mirror and they give you a 119 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: complete surround view of what's around the vehicle. And that 120 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: technology is just huge. Look at what they're doing and 121 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: who's going to fix that. Well, maybe they don't need 122 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: mechanics from the sixties and the seventies anymore. Maybe they 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: don't need the old guys anymore. Maybe they need the 124 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: kids that you know, click click, click, click click, pushing buttons. Maybe, 125 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but they still have to know mechanicals. They still have 126 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: to know, down and dirty, how the engine runs. Tony 127 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: asked me, He said, so how did you learn? He goes, 128 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: what was your first earliest memory? And I said, you know, 129 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: I remember being fourteen and working on my first engine. 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: And at that time, nobody explained squeeze, suck, blowpop to 131 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: me and take compression power, exhaust the four strokes of 132 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: an engine. I just knew that to get the car 133 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: to run again in my in my young mind, I 134 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: had to make it smell like an engine. I equated 135 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: smell to you know, if if you walked up to it, 136 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: lives in the hood, hit the carburetor, cranked it over. 137 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: They always had a smell to them as they were 138 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: as they were trying to run. And I had to 139 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: make it smell like an engine, right. And I knew 140 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: to take things apart. As I took things apart, you 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: always put them back the way you found them. And 142 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: I made my first mistake on that car that I 143 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: set the distributor of Hunter eighty degrees out, which you 144 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: could do right if you didn't know what sucks squeeze 145 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: blowpop was. And it took me a little while, but 146 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: I figured it out, and then I realized it was 147 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: more than just smell. It was the mechanics of how 148 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: something lines up. And I guess the technicians today can 149 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: do that, but it comes at a very expensive cost, 150 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: because you know, in the day I was playing with 151 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: mechanical things distributors that were out of sync, or maybe 152 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: the timing chain was off a tooth, or maybe it 153 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: was off hundred eighty degrees, in which case you'd have 154 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: to crank the distributor around the compensate for it, and 155 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: you could do that. The last job of the day 156 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: this week, Friday was a Ford explorer. Well, actually, I'll 157 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: take it back one step. It was a two thousand 158 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: nine Ford F one fifty. Was the second to last 159 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: job of the week, and I had to do a reflesh. 160 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: And to do a reflesh, I had to look up 161 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: my Ford ideas, my my my Ford dealer little scan tool, 162 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: and and and and flash the software and stall new 163 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: software in the vehicle. It had a problem was setting 164 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: a fault code for O two centser issues running lean 165 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: and on up up some more two cents of replacement. 166 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: They also wanted software updated to the latest, greatest, most 167 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: current version. So as I absolutely part of the repair, 168 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: you had to do it. You had no choice. The 169 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: problem with that scan tool is it's always requiring an update. Always. 170 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: There's there's one that comes out every two to three weeks. 171 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: You're always adding software. So I had one twelve Doto 172 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: one in it and I had to go to one 173 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: fourteen dot O one because I hadn't used it in 174 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: a month and a half. And I get halfway through 175 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: the flash and there was two modules. I had a flash. 176 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I had a flash the Powertrain Control Module, update the 177 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: software and that and then as a result of that, 178 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: it also called for the trans Control Module to be updated. Well, 179 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: it updated the Powertrain Control Module, the PCM, and as 180 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: it was moving over to to lock onto and get 181 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: into the TCM, the trans Control module, the computer crashed. 182 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: The software, the the the actual pro program, the Ideas 183 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: software failed. It locked up, and I came up with 184 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: an error message test Man, which is Ford Ideas has 185 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: encountered a failure and will now close out. Well wait 186 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a minute, I'm in the middle of a software install. 187 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's as bad as or may 188 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: be worse. You know, you ever have your computer crash 189 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: when it's doing a Windows update. Same thing, except you're 190 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: not gonna throw the laptop out or the hard drive. 191 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: It's the whole car. I ended up rebooting the laptop 192 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: and talking to tech support. I was able to roll 193 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: back on one because after the comment of oh, yeah, 194 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: that's been happening, there's a problem with the software update. Great, 195 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: and you guys let this out. I rolled it back 196 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: to one one and it worked and I got out 197 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: of it. Technology is expensive, and it's it's tedious, and 198 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: it's time consuming, and technology is the way forward. It's 199 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: the future. It's it's not what Tony and I talked 200 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: about Thursday night into the wee hours about where we 201 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: came from. Its technology is about where this industry is 202 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: going and where the country is going as a whole, 203 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: because it's gonna look very, very different if there's no 204 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: one to fix them, and the line goes around the block, 205 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: because that block only extends so far, it's going to 206 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: be a very interesting time the next ten to fifteen years. 207 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Eight five zero nine zero zero running eating the car 208 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: doctor here at the home. I'll be back right after this. 209 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: I got number good time right on the wall, so 210 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right 211 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back to raw. Hey, 212 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Pim in Florida sixteen 213 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: RAF four and or fifteen ROF four and a break 214 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: break problem him. Welcome to the car doctor. How can 215 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I help? Hey? Ron Um, long time listener, UM from 216 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: there where I listened to you and I'm doing a 217 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff myself. Now, sorry you appreciate that, um, 218 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: but I put cool questions for you. So I recently 219 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: replaced the brakes on my wife's cars Wrap four. Um. 220 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: I didn't do the rotors because I know you always 221 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: said to do them, but I looked at them and 222 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: they they seemed farm I've heard they were probably worked somewhere. 223 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: But I'm now getting out of the passengers side front tire. 224 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting a heat coming off of the tire, like 225 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: kind of a almost like an obnoxious heat. Um. It 226 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't really nothing's glowing, so it's not. I don't think 227 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: it's like a stuck caliber. And I'm just not sure 228 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: if that's the pad. Um just kind of getting used 229 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: to the old rotor or if I should just replace 230 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: the rotors. Well, let's let's let's look at it like this. 231 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: You did front breaks, back brakes, roll four. I did 232 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: all four. So the right front wheel is the only 233 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: one that seems to be hotter than the rest. Yes, 234 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: and you did it. You did what we call a 235 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: pad slap, right, You just did pads all the way 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: around the rotors. Yeah, correct, So defend your theory, all right. 237 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: If you think it's the pad, why is it only 238 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: the right front right? Um? Yeah, And that's why I 239 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: wasn't really sure, but I guess my when I took 240 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: her pads off. That's why I'm kind of kicking myself. 241 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: I should have done rotors like you always say. But um, 242 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: like the both sides of the pad were kind of 243 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: worn and different a different amounts. So that's why I 244 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: don't know if the work the rotor was warped and 245 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: that one was just warped more than the other one. Well, so, 246 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: so when you took this apart, the right front break 247 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: pad had more where to it than the left front. No, 248 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, the break pad display into 249 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the two two sides, right, I was worn down a 250 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: little bit more than the other side. Oh you mean 251 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: on the same on the same pad. The front half 252 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of the pad was worn't more than the broom Okay. 253 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: So so when you put this back together, when you 254 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: did this brake repair, did you clean you know, the hardware, 255 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: replace the hardware and and loube the slides everything moves. Yes, 256 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I pulled the five pins out. I put lub on those. Yeah. 257 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: I replaced all the mounting hardware, the brackets. I cleaned 258 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: everything with clean um. When you put the pad into 259 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: the into the bracket, it went in nice and easy. 260 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't hung up. Yeah, untas. So what I'd like 261 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: you to do is there there's two things I think 262 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: you have to do here. I don't necessarily think this 263 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: is rotors. I'm not a fan of pad slap because 264 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: the the scuff of that new rotor. Understand, and you 265 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: know the way brake manufacturers make pad ads, they they 266 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: they want a certain amount of break into happen on 267 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle. So you know, when you when you buy 268 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: a rotor and put a new road around with that 269 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: brake pad, if you ever notice it's it's got a 270 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: it's got a nice cross hatch finish to it, or 271 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of a rough surface. What 272 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: what they're counting on is that that that roughness, that 273 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: coarseness is scuffing the brake pad. And it's it causes 274 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: the brake pads surface. I think of it as boiling, 275 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: but it's not. It just raises the temperature of the 276 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: pad and causes the resins, the glues, the fibers, everything 277 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: that holds that pad together to come to a quick boil. 278 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: And it helps, it helps solidify things and sure the 279 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: pad in its final step after manufacture and and and 280 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: make a brighter, better brake pad, if that makes any sense. Um. 281 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's why I say do a rotor. 282 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: Uh you seeing in Florida. Maybe you'll get away with 283 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: it in Florida because you don't really get any snow 284 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: where you are in Florida, right like snow? What's that? 285 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: You know? Up here in New Jersey, you know we 286 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: hear snows coming in November. They've already got salt out 287 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: on the roads in July because they're they're getting ready 288 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: for the you know, the snowfall that hasn't happened for 289 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: five months. So the corrosiveness, that's the corrosive materials that 290 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: are being applied to break rotors and undercarriages of cars 291 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: in in the Northeast and the rust Belt and in 292 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: all the states with their snow, it's huge. You might 293 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: get away with it in Florida as far as you know, 294 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: the rotors not corroded, but you still lose the break 295 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: in factor. That being said, what you probably have going 296 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: on here is a caliper that's dragging even though you 297 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: don't you don't realize that. What I'd like you to 298 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: do before you spend any more money is spend more money. 299 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Go buy um either you know an infrared heat gun 300 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: or a temperature gun. You can buy them. They're under 301 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: a hundred bucks now and you know they'll work on 302 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: the car, they'll they'll work around the house. I fixed 303 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: my wife's dryer. I found out the dryer at the 304 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: house was leaking out the front gasket one time. So 305 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: do that make a temperature comparison side the side, and 306 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: then UM then probably end up putting a caliper on it. 307 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: I think that's where your head call me back and 308 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: have any of the problems to them. I appreciate it. 309 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: Eight zero nine zero zero the car doctors back right 310 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: after this, Hey, welcome back, run on the end of 311 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Um, Tom, did you know now, wait 312 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: a minute, you've never done this before. We've actually given 313 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: me something to give away without holding out on me. Well, 314 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: we gave you something to give away, um, because you 315 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: get upset whatever micro Ry installed it on our cars. Well, 316 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, this week we're giving way a super Chips 317 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: dash pack plus a tuner. So neither neither one, neither 318 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: neither both of you aren't gonna forget. I'm a radio engineer. 319 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: When you say tutor to me, I'm assuming it's something 320 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: that can receive a signal. Yeah, well listen, if we 321 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: don't hand it out this week, you're gonna get a signal. 322 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: But it's not exactly be uh something you want to receive. 323 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Is that a signal you're giving me right now? Yeah, 324 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: that's a hand signal. Yeah, that's a hand signal. So 325 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: this week we're giving away a super Chips dash pack 326 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: plus five inch high death screen, upgraded process or, quicker 327 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: read write times and high refresh rates. You can custom 328 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: tune your vehicle just the way we used to tune 329 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: hot rods in the old days, So we'll be giving 330 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that away this week. Uh super Chips dash pack plus. 331 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: You can find more information online at super chips dot com. 332 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: It's up on our Facebook page. We put up a 333 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: post there on Ronini and the Car Doctor. So sometime 334 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: this hour or next Tom and Mikey decision of the 335 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: judges is final. Let's get over and talk to Carla 336 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Carla, welcome to the Car Doctor. How can 337 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I help Hi? Ron Hi? Well, Um, I am a 338 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: two thou nine thousand miles. It's been a great been 339 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: a great car. Um. You know, I've had a little 340 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: bit of repair work done on it, but nothing nothing major. Um. 341 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: About a month ago, I'm I go to work. I'm 342 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: only like four miles away from work, so I mean 343 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: town most of the time, so I'm not you know, 344 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: hitting the gas or anything like that. Um, but I 345 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: do pop onto the interstate for about a quarter of 346 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: a mile. And I noticed about a month ago when 347 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I step on the gas once I'm hitting on ramp, 348 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: I hit the gas and all of a sudden, it's 349 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: like the car is jerking. It's like if you're sitting 350 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: on an airplane in a flight and you get that 351 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: kid behind you hitting your seat you know, yeah, I 352 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: had I had that uh so once so that that 353 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: that once that that kid went out the window. Um 354 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: is it? Is it like you're driving over the rumble 355 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: strips on the side of the road. Is it that 356 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: sharp bucking action? Yes? It it. I mean when I 357 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: had my mom and my aunt in the car, and 358 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: both of them when it happened, they were like, oh 359 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: my god, what's going on? You know it is it? 360 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Is it worse with more people in the car that 361 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, the more weight in the car, the not 362 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: the mom and your aunt. You know. But you know 363 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's they won't hurt me down, will that? Um? Okay, no, no, 364 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's just when I 365 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: hit the gas when I'm going through town, you know, 366 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: just that most it's fine, but when I hit on 367 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: when I step on the gas, it does that. And 368 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: then but once I get up to like sevent d 369 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: then it goes away. You know, it doesn't do it. 370 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: And it's not constant. It's just and there's no and 371 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: there's no dash lights coming on, no no night no lights, 372 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: no nothing. So what I did was I bought a 373 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: thing of fuel inject You're Cleaner, because that's kind of 374 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: what it feels like. It doesn't feel like the transmission 375 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: is slipping, so let's put that in there, and it 376 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: seems to help a little bit. What is it? What 377 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: does a slipping transmission feel like to you, Carla? Well, 378 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: I had one go out on me before, and it's 379 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: just like you're you're putting on the gas and it's 380 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: just not going anywhere. It's like it's just you're sitting 381 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: in there idoling kind of. And and the last time 382 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: when it happened to me, I I luckily was able 383 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: to drive it once last time, but I couldn't stop 384 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: any stoplights. So I made a lot of mistakes, and 385 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: luckily they were cos because I couldn't stop it. I 386 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: always like the guy that fixed it. I always like 387 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: to think I've never made mistakes in life. I just 388 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: had learning opportunities. So when you when this, when this happens, 389 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: right as I asked, and you said, this is as 390 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: if you were, you know, on the shoulder of the road, 391 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: those rumble strips that are cutting to the road, that 392 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: that bum bum bum bum bum bum bump. Right as 393 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: you accelerate. Is that what it feels like? It does 394 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: feel like that, but it's not constant. Oh like, it 395 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: can be five seconds apart. So the next time it happens, 396 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: and you know, be great. We we had some code 397 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: scanning done just to see is there anything pending or 398 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: about to happen when you when you turn the key 399 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: on before you start it. The next time, turn the 400 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: key on, don't start it. Take a look. Do you 401 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: see the service engine light? Doesn't We call that bulb check. 402 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: Let's make sure the light works before we go any further, 403 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: just for the heck of it. It's it's it's almost 404 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: ten years old. Now maybe the bulb burned out and 405 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: there's codes in there and you don't know it. But 406 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: one thing at a time, do that the next time 407 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: you can get it to happen on the off ramp 408 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: or on the on the on ramp. If if you 409 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: tap the brake pedal while you're stepping on the gas, 410 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: see if it goes away. And if it does, what 411 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: that tells me is I don't want to tell you this. 412 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna get upset it. Oh no, it's in the 413 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: trans I know say I could tell I'm sorry. See 414 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: what happens is did you ever have a mini bike 415 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: as a kid? Yes, say I knew you were one 416 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: of those, you were a mini biker. I could tell. 417 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Did you ever look at how your clutch worked on 418 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: your mini bike? That's centrifugal clutch. Where the where the 419 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: shoes locked out against the steel drum, And that's how 420 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: your torquing. That's how the torqu inverter works in your pontiac. 421 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: And and those those those those shoes that lock out 422 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: against the drum are starting to get worn. Chatter chatter, chatter, chatter, 423 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: that's what you're described. So if the next question could 424 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: be what color, what color? Yeah? Of your new car? 425 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: What do you like? So you're telling me it's not 426 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: worth fixing. Well, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying 427 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: we've got to have that conversation. You know, this is 428 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: this is like dating. It's we got to decide are 429 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna go on any further with this car because 430 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: it's it's starting to show you a rough patch. Um, 431 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's it's it's just starting to 432 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: rear its head. It's ten years old, it's got how 433 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: many miles on it? Well only it's got eighty thousand 434 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: miles on a ten year old car from a car 435 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: company that's obsolete. And yeah, you can get you can 436 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: get parts for it. But it hasn't been in Florida. 437 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: It's been in snowy, wonderful Wisconsin, where you know, the 438 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: last drop of snow probably went away. I heard two 439 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: weeks before Memorial Day. Uh, you know, so it's been 440 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: in a rough environment for ten years. And you've got 441 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: to do a complete vehicle evaluation because if this does 442 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: turn out to be a transmission, well you know you're 443 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: ready to put three end in the car. I get 444 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: a guys who can do it for twelve, Well, well 445 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I'd be a little afraid. Um. You know it's like 446 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: I can go to McDonald's and get a cheeseburger, I 447 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: can go to the steakhouse. I want to go someplace 448 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: in the middle. Um, you know it's it's how is 449 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: he doing it for twelve? He's working out of his garage? No, No, 450 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a guy that loves um he does transmissions. Okay, 451 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean listen, it's it's possible if if he can 452 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: do it for twelve and you know it's a it's 453 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: it's it's a deal for you, and yeah, I mean sure, 454 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: just as long as there's so long as there's a warranty, 455 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: it's done professionally, you know, Karen, consideration is given to 456 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, flush the cooler and do some of the 457 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: other things, which I'm sure he does if he does 458 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: transmissions for a living. But you know in in New 459 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Jersey dollars that trans is three grand thirty bucks all 460 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: day long, So you know, but do that, try to 461 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: break test. If that makes it go away, then what 462 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: that's telling you is the ends will dump the converter, 463 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: unlock the converter as soon as you hit the brake 464 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: in any application, because if you were breaking and you 465 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: pulled up to a stop sign in the converter state engage, 466 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: it would be like a clutch car manual trans car 467 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: pulling up a traffic light. If you don't depress the clutch, 468 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: the car stoles. Same thing would happen to an automatic. 469 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: So by stepping on the brakes, you're now breaking the 470 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: converter clutch. You're you're you're turning it off. And if 471 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: that changes the way the car operates, at least you 472 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: know where you're going right, So one quick question. If 473 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: you don't mind if I do nothing and just drive it. 474 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: Eventually the trans amer. Eventually, if it is the trans 475 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna come apart. So at least you'll know what's bad. 476 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: It'll be easier to diagnose when you're stuck on the 477 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: side of the road, um, because the car won't go anywhere. 478 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: So but um, you know, try it with the brake switch. 479 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: See what happens. Um. What I would tell you it'll 480 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: do is the last thing. Just get the whole vehicle evaluated. 481 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Have somebody go through it to a do a do 482 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: a fold, stick out your tongue and say back the front, 483 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: look the breaks, look at the suspension, look at the tires, 484 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: look for rust, look at breaking fuel lines, look at 485 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the entire car, and then decide is it worth it 486 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: to stay with this car? And I'm not saying it 487 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: is or isn't. I'm just saying, before you spend any 488 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of serious money on a ten year old vehicle, 489 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure the rest of it's 490 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: there with reasonable Karen caution, can you get another five 491 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: years out of the car? So Um, But That's how 492 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I'd approach it. I appreciate the call. Carl and good 493 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: luck to you. And I'm sorry to break your heart. 494 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I think I did. I'm sorry. Zero the car Doctors 495 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: coming right back, welcome back form in the end the 496 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: car I'm not. Let's get over to Maryland. Talk to Vanessa. Vanessa, 497 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: welcome to the car Doctor. How can I help hi? Um? So, 498 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand eleven Ford Fusion and it 499 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: has a hundred and eighteen miles on it. And since 500 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: it worked for a few years and since I've been 501 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: on my own, I really haven't done hardly any I 502 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: haven't done any maintenance to it at all. And aside 503 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: from you know, when the light comes on and it's 504 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: time to get the oil changed or something, I do 505 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: do that. But I feel like I need to take 506 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: it in for some type of overhaul. But I don't 507 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: want to walk into the mechanic and just say what 508 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: should I do? I mean, you know, I want to 509 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: be insformed a tiny bit at least. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. 510 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: There's a hunder eighteen thousand miles on it. So if 511 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: we were standing at the shop, my questions to you 512 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: would be did you ever do a ninety thousand mile 513 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: service to it? And you're gonna tell me no, correct. 514 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: And and then did you ever do a sixty? And 515 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: the answer, the answer there I'm gonna guess is no, 516 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: probably not. Last time I was in there they talked 517 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: about sports clubs or something, right, so you know, and 518 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and and the point I was trying to go to 519 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: is cars are like people. There's certain things you do 520 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: with certain miles and ages. All right. You you know, 521 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna look at the car from an age 522 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: and a mileage perspective. And it's a good idea for 523 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: something of this age. It's it's an eleven, it's it's 524 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: going on eight going on nine years old. It's got 525 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: a hard and twenty miles on it almost it's a 526 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: good idea for something of this age. You know, how 527 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: many miles a year do you go? Vanessa? Um? Ten thousand, 528 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand, okay? And and and sometimes they not drive 529 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot is harder, you know, Sometimes they're not drive 530 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot is harder than the drive a lot. You know. 531 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: It's it's it's so, it's so what I'm getting at is, um, 532 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, this is the kind of vehicle that once 533 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: a year you want to do a stick cut your 534 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: tongue and say, oh, you want to have a checklist 535 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: done to it. You want to have somebody to look 536 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: at breaks and tires and suspension, look at the exhaust. 537 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: It would be a good idea to do it, all right. 538 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: It would be a good idea to do a code scan, 539 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: all right. You know it's it's it's about getting an 540 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: annual physical all right. And my second question is do 541 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: you have a regular mechanic or are you quick glue 542 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: boil changing this or who's doing the maintenance? I do 543 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: have a regular neighborhood for several years, all right, and 544 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: you obviously you trust I do. Okay, good, that's good, right, 545 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: But you know it's it's real important today for for 546 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: what cars are in terms of you know, they're so 547 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: important to us. There are safety there are there are 548 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: are are means to get around, there are legs that 549 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: we've got to go someplace that we're confident in what 550 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: they're doing, and a it's being done right and be 551 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: it's needed. So ask them the next time you go in. 552 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Do you guys offer any type of a seasonal checklist 553 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: of physical vehicle inspection once a year? And if so, 554 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: how much does that cost? You know, it's probably somewhere 555 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: between thirty five and seventy five dollars, depending upon the 556 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: level of of of intricacy as far as what they're doing. 557 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: But cars require cars require certain things at certain mileages 558 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: by what the manufacturer calls for and then by their environment. 559 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: All Right, the car that's up in you know, well, 560 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Maryland is kind of a snow belt state. You guys 561 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: get a fair amount of snow and corrosiveness and uh, 562 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, winter winter material as we call it. So 563 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna treat that car a little different 564 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: than the car in Texas, and and and that becomes 565 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: an issue. I'll tell you what, Vanessa, stay put, stay 566 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: put right where you are. Let me pull over and 567 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: take this pause, and when we come back, we'll talk. 568 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk further about this. I'm on any of the 569 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: car doctor, We're back right after this. Welcome back, any 570 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. Vanessa. You're still there, Vanessa? Okay? Um. 571 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: You know one of the things to also keep in 572 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: mind is, you know, ask your mechanic, talk to your mechanic. Hey, 573 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: you know the car is getting older. Now, are you 574 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: guys geared towards this? Are you able to continue to 575 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: work on it and deal with it, and it's and 576 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: it's and it's and it's not old age but older age. Uh. 577 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, we we take we take babies to a 578 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: different type of doctor than we do when their thirty. 579 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Then we go to when we're seventy and eighty. You know. 580 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: So as cars age, sometimes um not every mechanics gonna 581 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: work on the older car the newer car. And and 582 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: you know there's different levels of technology out there, and 583 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: you know that's something that's something to think about. Two 584 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: and you have a candid conversation with them, uh you know, 585 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: and listen. It's not that you have to know them personally, 586 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: but the more you talk to your mechanic, the more 587 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: the more you will know who they are, all right, 588 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're trying to take care of 589 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: the car, they've got to be able to respond to 590 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: your questions. And you know, they've got to look at this. 591 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: They can't do. If the mechanics are doing blanket statements 592 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: every car needs X at this mileage, they're doing it wrong. 593 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, what manufacturers put out is a guideline. 594 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: It's you know, at twenty thousand miles, the car is 595 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna need spark plugs. Will It probably will, and there's 596 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: no getting away from that. But not every car is 597 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: going to need half the things that are in those 598 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: maintenance lists. To me, it's it's suggested or topical. Hey, 599 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: don't forget to look at this, don't forget to look 600 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: at that. It's things to be aware of. So one 601 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: of the other things you may want to do, Vanessa 602 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: in Maryland is take a look at the websites. Go 603 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: at the Ford Parts dot com or go look for 604 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: Ford PSN dot com Forward Professional Service Network, because a 605 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: lot of what Ford Motor Company is doing for the 606 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: older car as well as the newer car is they're 607 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: offering ways for people to get direct oe Ford parts 608 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: and information and for the repair shop it helps them out. 609 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: So if you're if you want to take a look 610 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: at that at you can consider that four Parts dot com. 611 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm not eating the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 612 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: they're priceless.